@tempestofruin I purchased a used Frontier from a friend of mine just over a year ago. It's been a good truck, but I hate buying used. I'm not above it by any means, just dislike owning someone else's used vehicles.
@@car-diologistsame, I find it great getting a “discount” buying a lightly used vehicle but I always find or run into questionable things that turn a 20 minute repair/upgrade turn into something with more drama because of something stupid the previous owner or previous owners “mechanic” did.
A truck that excels at nothing. Perfect. And the amount of people saying shut up and take my money is stupid. I'm glad the Nissan Frontier is starting to shine and pick up sales.
I agree. You used to be able to count on Toyotas to run forever. The Tundra has engine problems and the Tacoma has transmission problems. That's not what I expect from Toyota
Toyota has never really been a great brand. My family has owned them throughout the decades. Don't get me wrong, they aren't bad, but they really aren't any better than most American, Korean and other Japanese brands. It's not uncommon in the slightest for our kias and Ford's to have less issues than our Toyotas and Hondas, not even joking. Toyota has never been special. Ford has really cool aspirational vehicles like the mustang and bronco. The Korean brands have a really good warranty, and give you a lot of value for the money. All Toyota gives you for the elevated price tag is a reputation for what people think they are.
I would say 100% you're correct, however I got a freak, I bought a 21 F-150 Powerboost, not only was it first year, it's a highly complex vehicle, but no issues so far. But normally I would say yes stay away from first year vehicles no fail. I was really thinking the Toyota hybrids would be class leading, but they have fallen quite a bit.
As a current Toyota owner & Lexus collector. Today, I test drove a Frontier Pro-4x. It's got a n/a V6 & rear locker. Super impressed & reminds me of our 2009 Pathfinder & 2007 Xterra we owned.
I guess it reminds you it's also has 15-year-old technology. which is not good but also will not break. We should remind ourselves that we complain that the old Tacoma was old and needing updating now people are accepting old and not updated.
They are having transmission issues now, overheating ect. Check that out! I’m a die hard Toyota fan, owned many. These new ones I won’t buy until they figure all this stuff out.
These guys not only had a differential fail, but also had the overheating issue as well. They tried to gloss over it because they were impressed at how nice the dealership treated them during the repair. Nice try TFL!
I have a 2020 Tacoma Sr5, it’s the extended cab and it has the V6 and 4wd. I bought it in late 2019 for 34k which was 2.5k under MSRP. I’ve put 38000 miles on it and could easily sell it for 32k. People dont want the new tacomas and are paying a lot of money for the old ones.
It’s a camper not a tent. It is the lightest camper out there and only camper that is capable of taking jumps and hitting whoops. Also it is the only company that strives to get everything from USA and not china. For what it is, it is a great price point.
it's for overlanding so if your into that sort of thing, price points are subjective LOL Usually adding "overlanding" to any product makes the price jump at least 50% HAHA
Their reviews are more for putting something on TH-cam and use it as a cash cow. They have a handful of videos that are actual reviews. Example being the f150 trucks with over 250k
I used to buy a Toyota without even thinking about it with how reliable and well manufactured they were. Now with the Tundra and Tacoma redesigns, not anymore. I will wait a few years before I consider one as they have fallen back to the other manufacturers now and prices soared.
I’ve owned 9 Tundras since 2000, 4 4Runners, 2 FJs and right now in 2024 there is not one Toyota truck besides the current 4Runner that I would buy. My ‘18 Tundra SR5 will more than likely be my last unless I find a garage queen ‘21 TRD Pro. Toyota has lost a fanboy with their current offerings.
My brother, I have had a 2 tacomas a supercharged fj, have a 2019 trd pro 4runner supercharged a 2013 trd tundra supercharged, and a 2020 trd pro sequoia supercharged...knowing that when these vehicles go I am done with toyota sucks...then again they won't die for another 20 years...
@@rfdsdf1 I'm right there with you both - 15' Tundra 4x4 doublecab, mild overland build / I've had too many Toyotas to mention, but after this 2015, I'm done too
Come on, they bought the truck for $45k and traded it in for $41k? Toyota definetly did them a favor. I bought a brand new highlander, didnt like it, 2 months later, I wanted it to trade it in, and all dealers offered me $10-15k below msrp. Total rippoff. Ended up selling it to a private party.
%!00 Agree. You will lose at least %25 at dealer buyback or trade. This video is all about powdered sugar toyotas junk. Everything is wrong with the truck and they pretend It was great. Differential is so weak, transmission overheats, engine will probably have recalls.
I wonder if a real consumer would get anywhere near $41K for that truck. Especially with the carfax history it has now and the knowledge that it was a harder than average 7K miles without a proper break-in period.
They wouldn't. I bought a brand new highlander last year, two months later I wanted to trade it in and dealers offered me $10-15k under msrp. Total ripoff. Sold it to a private party and almost broke even.
The auto/manual transmission failures and overheating, burning fluid when gets that hot, I'd wait 4 years at this point. There is no fix for manual transmission failures at this point.
I feel you guys are going easy on toyota. Lest be honest, I am a toyota lover but these new tacomas and tundra just suck big time. Toyota messed up, and the only way they acknowledge is from their users. Thanks for all your insights
they have to be easy on all makes/models. If they bash anyone, they know there will be no test vehicles for them from any brand they bash hard. So, in reality, they are bought and paid for, by all brands they "review".
Chevrolet/GMC have always gained customers from Toyota who have owned Tacomas/Tundra either because they simply are not sufficient or had severe problems and were a pain to fix....not everyone has the nerve to tell about their Tundra/Tacoma problems in front of the horrible loyalist crowd- they just trade quietly without making a noise.
I want naturally aspirated (No replacement for displacement), the 4 cylinder is just working to hard and relies on the turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!! They can keep it.
now the national highway safety commission has received reports of the 2024 tacoma's 8 speed overheating and burning the fluid. this is happening all across the country. soon it will develop into a national recall on every tacoma truck.
The fact that you guys do not think that this thing is one total piece of crap like all the other new Toyota engines, and all that stuff is mind-boggling
Have you driven the new taco? Let me tell you my buddy has it and it drives far better then my company’s 22 taco and I mean night and day difference. Yes overpriced tho sadly
@@jamesfreeman7954No, He’s from the present where New Toyota Tacoma owners are having their transmissions failing left and right. Metal shavings found in the fluid and Toyota has absolutely zero replacements due to the newness of the 2024 Taco
This happens on first year production vehicles. Keep in mind Toyota makes engines then perfects them and keeps them for over a decade. They usually perfect then keep engines without updates for longer than any other manufacturers. It's going to take a bit to work out the kinks
Check out the 2025 KIA TASMAN mid 30’s choice of engine first time available ever in the us they been making trucks since 72 u won’t be disappointed going to definitely give Toyota a run for their $$$$
You asked, either a long-term Ranger Raptor or a long-term Colorado ZR2 Bison. Test those things not only off road but daily drive it as if it's a truck. Tow stuff, haul stuff, road trip it.
@jpow8210 I haven't seen much content on it. I hope they drive it across a boulder field, hammer across a washed out road and then move some furniture before they haul a trailer load of lumber 50 miles
@@johnfranktullo3463pick any new from the ground up vehicle and you will find some pretty decent size tongue hiccups the first two years. Like are we just throwing the decades of Toyota ingenuity and reliability out the window?
@@LafemmebearMusic hiccups? Wtf are u smoking ? Transmission blowing up with 300 miles , trannys not shifting into 2-4-6 gear , engines being replaced with 10-20k those aren’t hiccups those are down right engineering issues , parts not available for 2-4 months I liked Toyota but this is too much
I'm glad I didn't wait for this new generation of Tacoma. I wanted to downsize as I didn't need a half ton and bought a Tacoma in 2022 and have no complaints about my truck, and it wasn't as insanely overpriced as these new models. My truck is pretty much an identical spec to this, just the previous gen. Blue Crush, TRD Off Road
@@Rafael-f4c6c it was at MSRP, which is pretty much Tacomas have always sold at. Fortunately and unfortunately, they aren't like Rams and Fords that sit on lots for 6+ months and end up selling way under MSRP because they can't move inventory. But, 2 years and 20k miles later, residual private party value is pretty much exactly what I paid for it
I wonder if they checked the rear quarter panels for paint chips? I have 3 of these crapcomas leased for work. The rear quarter panel are cocered in paint chips from rocks bypassing the mud flaps.
I thought the 2016 Tacoma was a failure but by far this New Turbo Tacomas and Tundras are the worst Toyotas of all time…complexity on mechanical and electronics are destroying the brand.
Remember when it broke immediently and the. Toyota got hit with a bunch of recalls and so did ford and tesla hmmm seems to be a pattern recognizition thing im noticing here
Now people are reporting transmission failures in the 2024 Tacoma. I don't think I would buy one given the lack of rear seat space and the seeming lack of durability of the transmission
@@andyleo8418so far I don’t think it’s too bad. I don’t plan on buying this truck. I just think it is a little pricy. However, all the issues they experienced is mostly first year problems. And none of the problems are engine related. Compared to the tundra. These issues will get worked out. I’m more concerned about the TT V6.
@@andyleo8418 theres many cases already where owners transmissions are going out within 200 miles. i understand that its a first year model. im just salty cus i cant afford a 60K 4cylinder truck. 😆
Love these summary “farewell” videos. Reminiscing while closing the chapter. As always, keep up the awesome work across all your channels!! This from a non-truck guy 😊
I bought a new 2004 Tacoma TRD Offroad in Sept 2004 for $31,000. I loved it and drove it for 15 years and 260,000 miles. I bought a new 2019 Tacoma TRD Offroad in August 2019 for $32k. It was like a spaceship compared to my 2004. This 2024, new generation Tacoma TRD Offfroad would cost me $52k. So, in 15 years, the price increased $1000 or maybe $2000. From 2019 to 2024 (5 years) the price increased $20,000. I know inflation is bad, but a 62.5% increase in 5 years is outrageous. I thought I'd drive Tacomas for the rest of my life, but now, I can't imagine buying another one.
Im in the same boat, im still drive my trd sport from 2005 that cost me 28k it has 190k miles on, i was hoping to buy a new tacoma around the 32k 35k price, those days are long gone. I will drive my v6 untill the weels fall apart.
We watched Volvo dump the venerable inline 5. We watched Mercedes Dump the NA V8. We watched Dodge dump the hemi. Now we watch Toyota Dump the legendary V6…. These are sad times for car lovers.
WOW!! You guys are actually doing the intelligent thing and wiping your hands clean of the piece of junk disposable/throwaway 4th gen Tacoma! My hats off to your smart decision!!👍🏻👌🏻
@@FizzleWick1 That's my biggest problem with evs. Not the range nor the charging time. The fact that they're totaled when the battery goes. I have a couple cars between 8 and 10 years old with over 100,000 miles that run just like new. Doubt electric cars can handle that
Just saw this same tacoma color and all drove next to me. It looked spectacular. Really liked the look of it. As soon as the kinks are worked out, the powertrain is proven and Toyota gets real with their pricing I might be a buyer.
The price of New Trucks and SUVS changed how I now think about transportation. Ive legit changed gears and my next car will be a $26k Jetta that gets 40mpg.
What about the recent issues with the Tacoma Transmissions and top cap in the suspension? How many miles were on the Tacoma when you made the towing test ?
I want the new tiny cheap Toyota truck remake that apparently isn’t safe enough for the US. They expect us to be able to afford a 40-60k or more “American” sized truck.
Toyota was gonna be my next truck but after everything I've seen & heard I started getting cold feet & your review's on Blueberry put the nail in the coffin. Thanks for all y'all do it really helps people more than you know.
Do not buy a new Toyota truck or SUV. They are all riddled with big problems. You have been warned. Take it easy and save your money for something else.
Well, it is just sad that it broke under conditions that did not seem unusually harsh for off road use. And of course, the Chevy that was on the same trail was unfazed by those conditions. Every one has been expressing concern about the longevity- or lack thereof- of the turbo 4 banger. But that is not what broke! It was the front dif actuator. So the question I still have is: Is this part changed from the previous years of Tacomas and 4Runners(if the same part in both)? Has that part been weakened? Or, is the higher torque rating too much for it? Because I have never witnessed one of those breaking, even when Truck King was thrashing a 4Runner while breaking thru ice to get to the mud. If the part has not been weakened to save a few ounces, or if it is the same part and is able to handle the increased torque, then it is possible that this breakage was just a fluke, a bad part 1 in a thousand. But how can we know? If the part was weakened or it is the same old part but not up to the increased torque, then will Toyota immediately beef up the part? If so, how can we know? Because except for that breakage and the lack of rear leg room, the truck seems quite nice. Though I realize the engine change is not popular, the MPG was impressive and towing seemed pretty good, and comfort much improved. I wonder if anyone else has broken a front dif part? Particularly if adding larger tires?
That depends; - If you are researching to buy the Tacoma, Toyota will tell you it is one-in-a-million and that they beefed up the part and QA so every truck will now be better than all of their competitors. - If you own the truck (without running a multi-million subscriber TH-cam channel) and are concerned, Toyota will tell you the part meets all specs as is and your off-road use has voided the warrantee and caused it to break, which you need to pay out of pocket. Oh, and it weakened the rest of the truck too, so no more warrantee. You can of course fight it in court, assuming you have 3 years and half a million to cover your legal fees to do so.
The real question is that how much is getting a aftermarket upgrade to the diff going to cost compared to taking it to the dealer. If you are off roading at least in my opinion you shouldn't expect factory off road parts to last very long.
@Hybris51129 But you would think factory powertrain components that are included in an "off road" trim should be able to handle anything in actual off roading situations short of blatant abuse. TFL wasn't even pushing the truck that hard when the front diff blew up.
@@alexandersheppard1997 You would think but bare in mind of say a 1000 Ford Raptors for example how many will actually see off road use at all? If you are willing to play the numbers that gives the bean counters room to start making cuts because how many people will never know the difference? In this case maybe Toyota lost on the TFL truck but for all the tens of thousands they will sell what is 1, 10, 50, or 100 trucks that end up with a broken diff.
Great video guys. Lol i never had any intention to buy the Tacoma, but for some reason i still watched all your videos on it. You guys just make them enjoyable to watch.
They do. Especially with the crawl control on at the beach when it's hot. Seen a number of them flip it on only to have to stop when the tranny gets hot.
For sure Toyota got their money's worth out of this series of videos. So many videos with this truck. What ever Toyota is paying or doing for TFL, they got plenty of video time.
@@angelgjr1999 Also the transmission was overheating. It seems the automatic transmission will overheat when towing near max loads or driving hard. The manual transmission is just failing with under 5,000 miles. Toyota has no answer for this and no replacement transmissions for the manual. Those owners are totally screwed right now.
Hello Andre and Roman. Thanks for all your great reviews. I'm sorry, but I would like to remind just a few of you who might have some small challenges to see that some really good vehicles are made to cover other needs than your own, which is also called respect for other people and their needs. (It's not the Tacoma). I understand why you are testing the vehicles ability to reduce the speed in downhill slopes without active down- shifting or use of cruise- control and the importense of this for unexperienced drivers. You have often also told the importense of using a lower gear, and I'm completely agree in that. I don't know the requirements in the US, but to get a driver license for heavier trailer or lorry in Norway, we must show that we actively will choose lower gears or for a lighter vehicle we might sometimes use cruisecontrol, but if it's not downshifting we shall activate a lower gear manually. I understand that the US are a big country with climate differences like we have in Europe. In Norway it's required to use winthertires in the wither, and if you are stopped without propper withertires you will get a hefty fine and cannot drive on before you have mounted wintertires, and in an accident you will lose the right for compensation. And a lot heavy vehicles from sothern Europe must either turn home again or mount wintertires on the border. Back in time we were allowed to use offroadtires, but the passability in difficult conditions with my Land Rover Defender was so much worse that I started to use proper wintertires in winter conditions. One thing is the much better safety even on clean and salted roads, but on bad and hilly trails in the wintertime it's just fun to drive in 10 inches of weat snow with good wintertires on the LC. Thanks for your great reviews. Best Regards from Arne in Norway
The thing with the prices we pay is that most don't understand where they come from. It's as easy as looking into Consumer price index vs Producer price indexes and doing some math.
Toyota has turned into a major disappointment. Engine and transmission problems combined with astronomical prices has destroyed this brand’s credibility.
I recently rented a TRD OFFR Taco, and I gotta say I liked it. Feels much more nimble with better seating room up front. The 4 cylinder didn’t bother me one bit.
Guys I enjoy all your videos but since this the last year of the Nissan Titan can you do a Titan Grand finale; ex 1st gen Titan vs 2nd Gen Titan vs XD Gas vs XD Cummins. All are different trucks and do a full comparison. MPG, power, comfort, towing, payload, utility, best all around!! Thank you
You should have kept this until the transmission fails....There seems to now be an issue with the rear ends and transmissions..Manual and auto transmissions.....and no transmissions to be had for the time being.
Wow, finally nice to hear them say this new Tacoma is overpriced by $10k give or take a bit. Absolute stupid msrp's
used current gen Frontiers are coming up for sale and i've seen pro4 x models for almost 10k off with 30k ish miles
@tempestofruin I purchased a used Frontier from a friend of mine just over a year ago. It's been a good truck, but I hate buying used. I'm not above it by any means, just dislike owning someone else's used vehicles.
@@car-diologist I get it. For me it's like why not let someone else eat the deprecation and save some cash
@@car-diologistsame, I find it great getting a “discount” buying a lightly used vehicle but I always find or run into questionable things that turn a 20 minute repair/upgrade turn into something with more drama because of something stupid the previous owner or previous owners “mechanic” did.
@@Overlandjon exactly, guess we are damned if we do and damned if we don't sometimes
A truck that excels at nothing. Perfect. And the amount of people saying shut up and take my money is stupid. I'm glad the Nissan Frontier is starting to shine and pick up sales.
It excels at taking people’s money
I'd much rather have the new Ranger.
@@ThomasVMani recently saw a lifted ranger it looked sexy ! 🔥
So another truck that has spent decades now at excelling at nothing?
@@ThomasVManyeah but how’s the 2.3?
One of the most overrated, overhyped, and overpriced vehicles I've seen.
Agreed. Toyota just lost its reputation for reliability on this one. Buy 3rd gen or older, new tacomas are junk.
Nah, that will be the cyber truck
I couldn’t agree more
Yep. New Ranger will do well against the Taco if they can build them
Oh yeah, almost every mid size truck on the market is better then this, excluding Honda Ridgeline, and Jeep Gladiator.
There is a point where buyers will start saying no to these stupid MSRP's - and it sounds like Toyota is finding that out with this medicore truck.
Yes the point is that no one will have money to buy new cars with their debt loans. Yall got silver and gold yet?
No they wont, they're too stupid and too conceited to care.
Well this is worth EVERY penny
@@DaleWillyfangirl alert. Feelings were hurt.
@@DaleWillyfangirl alert. Feelings were hurt.
Best Nissan Frontier commercial I have ever seen.
New Toyotas aren’t what they should be
umm they are FAR better than what they use to be troll
I agree. You used to be able to count on Toyotas to run forever. The Tundra has engine problems and the Tacoma has transmission problems. That's not what I expect from Toyota
@@DaleWillyfangirl alert. Feelings were hurt.
@user-do9ir8lv2m No, they aren't,my 23 TRD is POS, it's built like a Fisher-Price toy.
Toyota has never really been a great brand. My family has owned them throughout the decades. Don't get me wrong, they aren't bad, but they really aren't any better than most American, Korean and other Japanese brands.
It's not uncommon in the slightest for our kias and Ford's to have less issues than our Toyotas and Hondas, not even joking. Toyota has never been special.
Ford has really cool aspirational vehicles like the mustang and bronco. The Korean brands have a really good warranty, and give you a lot of value for the money.
All Toyota gives you for the elevated price tag is a reputation for what people think they are.
Listen carefully: never buy year one or two of a complete redesign. Not Toyota, not anyone...
Or even the third year if it’s a Toyota, as in the Tundra.
I would say 100% you're correct, however I got a freak, I bought a 21 F-150 Powerboost, not only was it first year, it's a highly complex vehicle, but no issues so far. But normally I would say yes stay away from first year vehicles no fail. I was really thinking the Toyota hybrids would be class leading, but they have fallen quite a bit.
@@MrFordguy73 how many miles?
.................................... WRONG!!!!...I bought year 1 of the LEXUS 450h= " F" Sport.............0 issues PERFECT VEHICLE...& it is a LEXUS!
Excuses Excuses and a silly premise. You could have bought a year 1 or two of Toyota redesigns going back to the early 80s. Toyota boned it.
As a current Toyota owner & Lexus collector. Today, I test drove a Frontier Pro-4x. It's got a n/a V6 & rear locker. Super impressed & reminds me of our 2009 Pathfinder & 2007 Xterra we owned.
Nissan will be force to get rid of v6 too. Emission laws
I guess it reminds you it's also has 15-year-old technology. which is not good but also will not break. We should remind ourselves that we complain that the old Tacoma was old and needing updating now people are accepting old and not updated.
I’m still dazed by 64k for a mostly plastic Land Cruiser Lite…
The sr5 is the same price 😂
The new Land Cruiser with a turbo 4 is a fail. Too much weight for that tiny motor.
I wanted a Tacoma but opted for the Colorado ZR2. Best decision I've made this year.
Tacoma fanboy here. Toyota really needs to fix these trucks and add a V6 model.
No
2023 tacoma doesn’t any power, slow and gas guzzlers, 2024 runs great, a lot of power.
@@MsBeto1977 It's the same amount of power lmao. It'll get blown away by Colorados and Rangers all day.
Government is pushing the car companies to lower the gas emisión !!🥲🥲
They are having transmission issues now, overheating ect. Check that out! I’m a die hard Toyota fan, owned many. These new ones I won’t buy until they figure all this stuff out.
These guys not only had a differential fail, but also had the overheating issue as well. They tried to gloss over it because they were impressed at how nice the dealership treated them during the repair. Nice try TFL!
@@ramfan5149 🤣 No one is falling for it. I’m a Toyota fan boy for sure, but only because of a tracker record of being reliable.
I have a 2020 Tacoma Sr5, it’s the extended cab and it has the V6 and 4wd. I bought it in late 2019 for 34k which was 2.5k under MSRP. I’ve put 38000 miles on it and could easily sell it for 32k. People dont want the new tacomas and are paying a lot of money for the old ones.
Hold on... $8k for a tent?! Have we lost our minds?!
It’s a camper not a tent. It is the lightest camper out there and only camper that is capable of taking jumps and hitting whoops. Also it is the only company that strives to get everything from USA and not china.
For what it is, it is a great price point.
@@jollyrogueoffroad cope harder
@@VtecSamtroll harder....
it's for overlanding so if your into that sort of thing, price points are subjective LOL
Usually adding "overlanding" to any product makes the price jump at least 50% HAHA
@@VtecSam i get it. You don’t understand it so you bash it. Typical
love how 6 months is "long term"
7k miles 😂
Longer than any other review
Well it is a TH-cam channel that reviews all trucks😂
Their reviews are more for putting something on TH-cam and use it as a cash cow. They have a handful of videos that are actual reviews. Example being the f150 trucks with over 250k
@@polish9817lol you don’t know how TH-cam works if you think it’s a cash cow… 😅
So far I’m very happy with my 24 taco. I’ll see in a few years if my intuition is right or wrong, but for now, I trust Toyota.
I hate that Toyota and Honda are putting in small turbo charged 4 cyclinders instead of naturally asperated v6's
I used to buy a Toyota without even thinking about it with how reliable and well manufactured they were. Now with the Tundra and Tacoma redesigns, not anymore. I will wait a few years before I consider one as they have fallen back to the other manufacturers now and prices soared.
I’ve owned 9 Tundras since 2000, 4 4Runners, 2 FJs and right now in 2024 there is not one Toyota truck besides the current 4Runner that I would buy. My ‘18 Tundra SR5 will more than likely be my last unless I find a garage queen ‘21 TRD Pro. Toyota has lost a fanboy with their current offerings.
My brother, I have had a 2 tacomas a supercharged fj, have a 2019 trd pro 4runner supercharged a 2013 trd tundra supercharged, and a 2020 trd pro sequoia supercharged...knowing that when these vehicles go I am done with toyota sucks...then again they won't die for another 20 years...
@@rfdsdf1 I'm right there with you both - 15' Tundra 4x4 doublecab, mild overland build / I've had too many Toyotas to mention, but after this 2015, I'm done too
I currently own 56 Tundras, 89 4runners, and 33 FJs. Im a fanboy asf.
I had one taco a and civic in that time.
With every video of the new tacoma that comes out, I think the resale value of my 2020 keeps getting better 😂
I had a 2020 as a work truck, Toyota in San Diego emails me once a week wanting it back. I’m also thankful I bought a personal 2023.
I sold my 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport for 25k! It only had 65k miles.
For real!
LOL same...
@@blakerhYou got ripped off lol
Come on, they bought the truck for $45k and traded it in for $41k? Toyota definetly did them a favor. I bought a brand new highlander, didnt like it, 2 months later, I wanted it to trade it in, and all dealers offered me $10-15k below msrp. Total rippoff. Ended up selling it to a private party.
%!00 Agree. You will lose at least %25 at dealer buyback or trade. This video is all about powdered sugar toyotas junk. Everything is wrong with the truck and they pretend It was great. Differential is so weak, transmission overheats, engine will probably have recalls.
the avg. Joe would never receive 4K loss, it would be way more. It is not what you know in life, it is who you know.
They’re lucky to get one that cheap sr5 is currently going for 65k
They only got that deal because of their connections and fame. Otherwise you would never trade a brand new car in, you’d just sell it on marketplace.
ComeOnMan......Toyota made Nissan Frontier the best selling mid size pickup.
and this series helped with that 🤣
I had a 2015 Xterra. Nissan needs to bring it back with that new Frontier V6. Same basic concepts. Small, simple, affordable.
@@shiftymcgee9359 why’d you give it up?
That’s what I’m looking at.
I hardly see any frontiers on the road. youtube comments say they’re buying frontier. TH-cam commenters don’t put their money where their mouth is.
I wonder if a real consumer would get anywhere near $41K for that truck. Especially with the carfax history it has now and the knowledge that it was a harder than average 7K miles without a proper break-in period.
They wouldn't. I bought a brand new highlander last year, two months later I wanted to trade it in and dealers offered me $10-15k under msrp. Total ripoff. Sold it to a private party and almost broke even.
Absolutely not. TFL is a commercial buyer not a regular customer.
How much could a dealer make paying that much?
Every video of the 2024 Tacoma I watch I love my 2020 even more! Will be keeping that thing until it falls apart.
Enjoy your Wheezy Atkins cycle V6!
The auto/manual transmission failures and overheating, burning fluid when gets that hot, I'd wait 4 years at this point. There is no fix for manual transmission failures at this point.
Exactly.
@@Blue-moon12 lol i was searching for nissan frontiers videos and you appear in comments of many, may the Lord bless you
Wait 4 years and buy one for yourself 😂
@@kyrosmikeomg that guy is everywhere
Don’t buy manual it’s dumb
Tacomas are having transmission failures now. What is going on in the world. No one cares about quality anymore.
Squeeze the middle class, overcharge for inferior products. That’s capitalism, baby!
Look where they are being built!
Toyota has new people in charge now so it’s disappointing that all the new cars are having issues. Sad
They never had transmission trouble even doing that hard towing test about 3 weeks ago
@@Farcehole nothing is cheap globally anymore. Cost of everything is up
I feel you guys are going easy on toyota. Lest be honest, I am a toyota lover but these new tacomas and tundra just suck big time. Toyota messed up, and the only way they acknowledge is from their users. Thanks for all your insights
Agree 100 percent
they have to be easy on all makes/models. If they bash anyone, they know there will be no test vehicles for them from any brand they bash hard. So, in reality, they are bought and paid for, by all brands they "review".
Better to off-load now before the transmission fails.
Dumb
Nissan, Ford, and GM should send Toyota giant gift baskets for all the new customers they've gained because of the new Tacoma and Tundra
We’re sorry for your loss cards……loss in sales 😂
Nissan better get back in the game with the Titan
@@charlesd.346Nissan kill their Titan Pickup and summer 2024 is the end of production for Nissan's Canton, Mississippi assembly plant.
@@charlesd.346How can you get back into a game that you were never in? 🤷
Chevrolet/GMC have always gained customers from Toyota who have owned Tacomas/Tundra either because they simply are not sufficient or had severe problems and were a pain to fix....not everyone has the nerve to tell about their Tundra/Tacoma problems in front of the horrible loyalist crowd- they just trade quietly without making a noise.
I want naturally aspirated (No replacement for displacement), the 4 cylinder is just working to hard and relies on the turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!! They can keep it.
now the national highway safety commission has received reports of the 2024 tacoma's 8 speed overheating and burning the fluid. this is happening all across the country. soon it will develop into a national recall on every tacoma truck.
giving it up before the transmission breaks and you have to call them out on it. smart!!!
The fact that you guys do not think that this thing is one total piece of crap like all the other new Toyota engines, and all that stuff is mind-boggling
Have you driven the new taco? Let me tell you my buddy has it and it drives far better then my company’s 22 taco and I mean night and day difference. Yes overpriced tho sadly
@@braedan2336But at the cost of reliability
@@JohnLee-db9ztyoure from the future?
@@jamesfreeman7954No, He’s from the present where New Toyota Tacoma owners are having their transmissions failing left and right. Metal shavings found in the fluid and Toyota has absolutely zero replacements due to the newness of the 2024 Taco
This happens on first year production vehicles. Keep in mind Toyota makes engines then perfects them and keeps them for over a decade. They usually perfect then keep engines without updates for longer than any other manufacturers. It's going to take a bit to work out the kinks
My 07 Tacoma has 600k miles and no major problems. I currently saving to buy a new truck and this 4 gen Tacoma is cross off my list.
Check out the 2025 KIA TASMAN mid 30’s choice of engine first time available ever in the us they been making trucks since 72 u won’t be disappointed going to definitely give Toyota a run for their $$$$
You asked, either a long-term Ranger Raptor or a long-term Colorado ZR2 Bison. Test those things not only off road but daily drive it as if it's a truck. Tow stuff, haul stuff, road trip it.
Yup that’s what they always do with the trucks 😊
@LafemmebearMusic If I was going to pay 60k for a truck or would need to do more than just drive over rocks lol
They already bought a long term ranger raptor but good thought.
@jpow8210 I haven't seen much content on it. I hope they drive it across a boulder field, hammer across a washed out road and then move some furniture before they haul a trailer load of lumber 50 miles
Let’s be honest this truck is a failure, stop being easy on Toyota
lmfao it is NOT a failure troll
@@DaleWillyyes it is Toyota fan troll read up on the transmission issues that are popping up the autos n manual
@@johnfranktullo3463pick any new from the ground up vehicle and you will find some pretty decent size tongue hiccups the first two years. Like are we just throwing the decades of Toyota ingenuity and reliability out the window?
@@LafemmebearMusic hiccups? Wtf are u smoking ? Transmission blowing up with 300 miles , trannys not shifting into 2-4-6 gear , engines being replaced with 10-20k those aren’t hiccups those are down right engineering issues , parts not available for 2-4 months I liked Toyota but this is too much
Getting rid of it before it is too late, smart move TFL
What?? I thought you were gonna put 300K miles on it? Getting rid of it at 7k miles, what a joke of a vehicle!
They knew they better dump this disappointment while it’s still has some value left.
I'm glad I didn't wait for this new generation of Tacoma. I wanted to downsize as I didn't need a half ton and bought a Tacoma in 2022 and have no complaints about my truck, and it wasn't as insanely overpriced as these new models. My truck is pretty much an identical spec to this, just the previous gen. Blue Crush, TRD Off Road
if you bought a tacoma in '22, it was definitely over priced. lol
@@Rafael-f4c6c it was at MSRP, which is pretty much Tacomas have always sold at. Fortunately and unfortunately, they aren't like Rams and Fords that sit on lots for 6+ months and end up selling way under MSRP because they can't move inventory. But, 2 years and 20k miles later, residual private party value is pretty much exactly what I paid for it
I wonder if they checked the rear quarter panels for paint chips? I have 3 of these crapcomas leased for work. The rear quarter panel are cocered in paint chips from rocks bypassing the mud flaps.
This truck was a pretty big disappointment, not only was it unreliable but its completely new and yet its still not as good as the Colorado or Ranger
What would you say the Ranger and Colorado are better at than the new Tacoma?
@@officialyasirnot breaking
This Tacoma is disappointing no doubt, but the Ranger and Colarado are both overpriced, overrated piles of crap as well.
The frontier is much better. Better on price.missying some bells and whistles but it WORKS AND DRIVES
Even the previous Gen Ranger could top the 24 Taco in just about all area's.
That truck will sell thousands of Frontiers.
Exactly
Funnest damn comment I have seen in a long time 🤣🤣🤣
Simply…and well said🤓
Cheaper and simpler. V6 NA engine. Frontier is the better truck
Their are comments that are great. 😃
I thought the 2016 Tacoma was a failure but by far this New Turbo Tacomas and Tundras are the worst Toyotas of all time…complexity on mechanical and electronics are destroying the brand.
7k hard miles. I wouldn't want to buy it used.
I feel bad for the person buying TFL used Tacoma lol
Buying used trucks in general is a bad idea. Trucks get beaten up.
Unless 2nd gen Tacomas they love abuse
Remember when it broke immediently and the. Toyota got hit with a bunch of recalls and so did ford and tesla hmmm seems to be a pattern recognizition thing im noticing here
@@TheAnnoyingBoss what’s the pattern? New vehicles are poo poo?
Roman's a shrewd businessman, unloading before a huge depreciation on these things.
Great move! I think the value on these things are going to tank. Glad I bought a 4Runner instead.
And before they can get it back on snow.
My first gen taco now has 180K on the clock. Love it and will keep it until it dies.
Same here, I’m on 150k miles.
Which it probably won’t die lol
They’re just getting started! ‘99 318k gen 1 and still going strong!!!👍
Same here 107,000 in still going strong.
Oh you mean one of the greatest trucks ever built ❤
Now people are reporting transmission failures in the 2024 Tacoma. I don't think I would buy one given the lack of rear seat space and the seeming lack of durability of the transmission
We can acknowledge the Nissan Frontier is the Tacoma we've been looking for?
Nissan thanking toyota for building a less reliable and waaayyy over priced midsize truck. Nissan Frontier, Best selling midsize Truck of 2024 Q1.
How is it less reliable?
Nissan is the Chrysler of Japanese autos. Either one will hold value better than a pos ford or chevy.
@@andyleo8418so far I don’t think it’s too bad. I don’t plan on buying this truck. I just think it is a little pricy. However, all the issues they experienced is mostly first year problems. And none of the problems are engine related. Compared to the tundra. These issues will get worked out. I’m more concerned about the TT V6.
@@andyleo8418 theres many cases already where owners transmissions are going out within 200 miles. i understand that its a first year model. im just salty cus i cant afford a 60K 4cylinder truck. 😆
The bed tent becomes extremely useful while you are waiting for a tow truck.
Love these summary “farewell” videos. Reminiscing while closing the chapter. As always, keep up the awesome work across all your channels!! This from a non-truck guy 😊
Glad you like them!
How did you post this 6 days ago when the video was posted today? Are you from the future?!
@@JokerG16 pretty sure members got access to some videos a few days ago earlier before being made public.
@@Unforgiven118 ahhh good point
Memorial service
I bought a new 2004 Tacoma TRD Offroad in Sept 2004 for $31,000. I loved it and drove it for 15 years and 260,000 miles.
I bought a new 2019 Tacoma TRD Offroad in August 2019 for $32k. It was like a spaceship compared to my 2004.
This 2024, new generation Tacoma TRD Offfroad would cost me $52k.
So, in 15 years, the price increased $1000 or maybe $2000.
From 2019 to 2024 (5 years) the price increased $20,000.
I know inflation is bad, but a 62.5% increase in 5 years is outrageous.
I thought I'd drive Tacomas for the rest of my life, but now, I can't imagine buying another one.
Im in the same boat, im still drive my trd sport from 2005 that cost me 28k it has 190k miles on, i was hoping to buy a new tacoma around the 32k 35k price, those days are long gone. I will drive my v6 untill the weels fall apart.
I wish it had an bigger tablet stuck to the dash and maybe just 3 cylinders and a cvt
I know you're joking but for 2028 cafe standards that is actually very likely
@@kdaltex I do not think he is joking. That big screen is hideous.
We watched Volvo dump the venerable inline 5.
We watched Mercedes Dump the NA V8.
We watched Dodge dump the hemi.
Now we watch Toyota Dump the legendary V6….
These are sad times for car lovers.
Government trying to make ICE super lame so folks consider electric crap.
Blame the New World Order.
This is what happens when you let California dictate their emissions "standards"
I would hardly call the 3.5 legendary..... Now dropping the 4.0 in the 4runner vs updating it now that is a sad day.
Still have the legendary 5.0 V8 in the Mustang…..for now. I hope Ford continues to keep the V8 in the Mustang for as long as possible
WOW!! You guys are actually doing the intelligent thing and wiping your hands clean of the piece of junk disposable/throwaway 4th gen Tacoma! My hats off to your smart decision!!👍🏻👌🏻
Glad I passed on a new Taco. One year with my Canyon AT4 and so far I’ve been very pleased with it.
What year is it ?
best looking truck in the market
I want to see how baked that JBL speaker on the dashboard is after 1 year 🤣
Why I bought a Frontier.
Nice
so, u brought a real mans truck
Time for TFL to get a Frontier Pro4x for review.
I'm so happy I bought a 3rd Gen Taco before they got phased out, and I just bought my wife a 2024 5th Gen 4Runner. Looks like I made the right choice.
Even though gas may lose half its range towing, you can refill it in about 5 minutes. Electric cars can't do that
I was thinking the same thing.
When batteries reach it’s lifespan of 100 - 200k miles you pretty much pay for another car for a battery replacement…
@@FizzleWick1 That's my biggest problem with evs. Not the range nor the charging time. The fact that they're totaled when the battery goes. I have a couple cars between 8 and 10 years old with over 100,000 miles that run just like new. Doubt electric cars can handle that
@@FizzleWick1 when pigs fly Evs are a joke and worthless when the battery goes
@@jpmiller99people have put over 100k on electric vehicles already.
I'm hearing from other sites that Tacos are now having transmission issues...
They’re overheating quicker. Supposedly it’s the 4hi on off-roading. And supposedly the older trans is not overheating in the same scenario.
@@773Chicago from what ive heard its under normal operation with the manual and automatic...
I heard on some other sites that all the doors just fall off at once when going over 35
Just like the old ones.
@@JC-ez9yx Maybe. Them weak ball joints😂
Just saw this same tacoma color and all drove next to me. It looked spectacular. Really liked the look of it. As soon as the kinks are worked out, the powertrain is proven and Toyota gets real with their pricing I might be a buyer.
And here I was thinking of selling my 3rd gen 2020 trd pro couple months ago. Glad I held on to see the resale go up now
Best decision you guys have made. The new tacoma's are throw away trucks.
All vehicles post covid are disposable
$50,000 wasted?
this is Nissan's wet dream
I feel like this was one of the quicker vehicles TFL has gotten rid of and I don't blame them with all the ongoing issues Toyota has been facing.
It was let's get rid of this thing before it blows up, but everyone you should all buy Toyota and it's not a big deal.
It's like their Land Rover Defender. Get rid of it quickly. More than once. So Toyota is the new Land Rover.
Right before the transmission takes a 💩
So disappointed in the new TACO… it’s all hype
Exactly, they know it won't last , getting rid of it before it is too late, no one wants Tundras 10K under MSRP, Tacoma is next , they know it
And then Toyota wants to charge you at the top of the market for these vehicles plus have dealer markup is ridiculous
The price of New Trucks and SUVS changed how I now think about transportation. Ive legit changed gears and my next car will be a $26k Jetta that gets 40mpg.
At 15:22 you mention the tiny volume knob. Totally agree, same problem on my GR Corolla. Replace with RAV4 knob, huge difference.
My 2021 4-cylinder non-turbo Tacoma could tow 3500lbs at 16-18mpg in S-4.
I sometimes get an itch for a new car. I watch these videos and then feel more contentment with my 2018 Outback. I remind myself to never sell it.
What about the recent issues with the Tacoma Transmissions and top cap in the suspension? How many miles were on the Tacoma when you made the towing test ?
I want the new tiny cheap Toyota truck remake that apparently isn’t safe enough for the US. They expect us to be able to afford a 40-60k or more “American” sized truck.
I want a single cab helix like they have overseas
Just bring back a lever transfer case lever both for Tacoma and 4Runner. All I ask.
Thank you for all the videos! Unfortunately you guys got swamped by a lot of haters.
Thank you for the video great truck!
I still have my 2003 Tacoma, I bought new. That is long term.
Toyota was gonna be my next truck but after everything I've seen & heard I started getting cold feet & your review's on Blueberry put the nail in the coffin.
Thanks for all y'all do it really helps people more than you know.
Do not buy a new Toyota truck or SUV. They are all riddled with big problems. You have been warned. Take it easy and save your money for something else.
Well, it is just sad that it broke under conditions that did not seem unusually harsh for off road use. And of course, the Chevy that was on the same trail was unfazed by those conditions. Every one has been expressing concern about the longevity- or lack thereof- of the turbo 4 banger. But that is not what broke! It was the front dif actuator. So the question I still have is: Is this part changed from the previous years of Tacomas and 4Runners(if the same part in both)? Has that part been weakened? Or, is the higher torque rating too much for it? Because I have never witnessed one of those breaking, even when Truck King was thrashing a 4Runner while breaking thru ice to get to the mud.
If the part has not been weakened to save a few ounces, or if it is the same part and is able to handle the increased torque, then it is possible that this breakage was just a fluke, a bad part 1 in a thousand. But how can we know? If the part was weakened or it is the same old part but not up to the increased torque, then will Toyota immediately beef up the part? If so, how can we know?
Because except for that breakage and the lack of rear leg room, the truck seems quite nice. Though I realize the engine change is not popular, the MPG was impressive and towing seemed pretty good, and comfort much improved.
I wonder if anyone else has broken a front dif part? Particularly if adding larger tires?
That depends;
- If you are researching to buy the Tacoma, Toyota will tell you it is one-in-a-million and that they beefed up the part and QA so every truck will now be better than all of their competitors.
- If you own the truck (without running a multi-million subscriber TH-cam channel) and are concerned, Toyota will tell you the part meets all specs as is and your off-road use has voided the warrantee and caused it to break, which you need to pay out of pocket. Oh, and it weakened the rest of the truck too, so no more warrantee. You can of course fight it in court, assuming you have 3 years and half a million to cover your legal fees to do so.
@@Cloud30000preach!
The real question is that how much is getting a aftermarket upgrade to the diff going to cost compared to taking it to the dealer. If you are off roading at least in my opinion you shouldn't expect factory off road parts to last very long.
@Hybris51129 But you would think factory powertrain components that are included in an "off road" trim should be able to handle anything in actual off roading situations short of blatant abuse. TFL wasn't even pushing the truck that hard when the front diff blew up.
@@alexandersheppard1997 You would think but bare in mind of say a 1000 Ford Raptors for example how many will actually see off road use at all?
If you are willing to play the numbers that gives the bean counters room to start making cuts because how many people will never know the difference?
In this case maybe Toyota lost on the TFL truck but for all the tens of thousands they will sell what is 1, 10, 50, or 100 trucks that end up with a broken diff.
Great video guys. Lol i never had any intention to buy the Tacoma, but for some reason i still watched all your videos on it. You guys just make them enjoyable to watch.
Transmission over heats
They do. Especially with the crawl control on at the beach when it's hot. Seen a number of them flip it on only to have to stop when the tranny gets hot.
For sure Toyota got their money's worth out of this series of videos. So many videos with this truck. What ever Toyota is paying or doing for TFL, they got plenty of video time.
IDK, man…that front end “pop” was heard around the world😳
The Tacoma breaking video went viral on the forums. Also the disappointing video of them towing uphill… they had to floor it all the way up.
@@angelgjr1999
Also the transmission was overheating. It seems the automatic transmission will overheat when towing near max loads or driving hard. The manual transmission is just failing with under 5,000 miles. Toyota has no answer for this and no replacement transmissions for the manual. Those owners are totally screwed right now.
Your channel is so awesome. Just found it. You two are amazing people thank you for what you two are doing.
4 months is now considered "long term"
They know its trash
Hello Andre and Roman. Thanks for all your great reviews. I'm sorry, but I would like to remind just a few of you who might have some small challenges to see that some really good vehicles are made to cover other needs than your own, which is also called respect for other people and their needs. (It's not the Tacoma). I understand why you are testing the vehicles ability to reduce the speed in downhill slopes without active down- shifting or use of cruise- control and the importense of this for unexperienced drivers. You have often also told the importense of using a lower gear, and I'm completely agree in that. I don't know the requirements in the US, but to get a driver license for heavier trailer or lorry in Norway, we must show that we actively will choose lower gears or for a lighter vehicle we might sometimes use cruisecontrol, but if it's not downshifting we shall activate a lower gear manually. I understand that the US are a big country with climate differences like we have in Europe. In Norway it's required to use winthertires in the wither, and if you are stopped without propper withertires you will get a hefty fine and cannot drive on before you have mounted wintertires, and in an accident you will lose the right for compensation. And a lot heavy vehicles from sothern Europe must either turn home again or mount wintertires on the border. Back in time we were allowed to use offroadtires, but the passability in difficult conditions with my Land Rover Defender was so much worse that I started to use proper wintertires in winter conditions. One thing is the much better safety even on clean and salted roads, but on bad and hilly trails in the wintertime it's just fun to drive in 10 inches of weat snow with good wintertires on the LC. Thanks for your great reviews. Best Regards from Arne in Norway
Congrats on getting rid of it. The new Tacoma is a TURD.
TURD Pro
Well said
@@just4ivaylo92 TURD Pro
Junk.
The thing with the prices we pay is that most don't understand where they come from. It's as easy as looking into Consumer price index vs Producer price indexes and doing some math.
Smart move, before the main bearings grenade. Lol.
Toyota has turned into a major disappointment. Engine and transmission problems combined with astronomical prices has destroyed this brand’s credibility.
“But we have 4WD.”
You HAD 4WD.
The Ranger Raptor seems like a better deal than the trd pro
I recently rented a TRD OFFR Taco, and I gotta say I liked it. Feels much more nimble with better seating room up front. The 4 cylinder didn’t bother me one bit.
Wait til it gets recalled like the tundra 😂
So because the Tundra has an engine recall. Now every Toyota will have an engine recall? Right.
Actually, the way things going you might be right. Every new model Toyota will probably have an engine recall. 😃
@@M85Iroc The Tundra and Tacoma engines were made at the same facility, so more than likely.
Tacos having tranmission issues not engine issues
Guys I enjoy all your videos but since this the last year of the Nissan Titan can you do a Titan Grand finale; ex 1st gen Titan vs 2nd Gen Titan vs XD Gas vs XD Cummins. All are different trucks and do a full comparison. MPG, power, comfort, towing, payload, utility, best all around!! Thank you
Toyota's having scandals right and left in Japan on top of recalls. When do you think we see so called "compact" truck from them? 🤔
So glad this truck is gone. Hated it from the moment it got named "Blueberry".
You should have kept this until the transmission fails....There seems to now be an issue with the rear ends and transmissions..Manual and auto transmissions.....and no transmissions to be had for the time being.
You guys need to publicly apologize for deflecting, covering and shilling for Toyota.
Thank you! These guys are major tool-bags. I also called them Toyota Shills. Toyota is not the company it once was a few years ago. Bye bye Toyota.
They've shilled since day one of this channel, you're just now noticing? Lol
Looks like your Toyota dealer is a CDK dealer... thoughts and prayers to their staff having to do everything manually these days. 😬😔🥵
You mean make them actually work for their money?
Don’t know why all the hate. I bought one and I’m very happy with it.
I’m mainly a regular road driver and don’t off road.
Should be called Toyota Trd Off load! 😂