A Truly Random Prediction That Always Makes Cents (w/ Diamond Jim Tyler)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2019
- They think of a random number, make it even random-er, and then always predict it correctly. Would you bet $100 on it?
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The biggest mystery to me is how did those guys not run into each other shopping for clothes.
instaBlaster...
While you're cutting pennies, can I borrow 9/10ths of a cent?
I need to buy EXACTLY 1 gallon of gas.
Oh my god, I almost tuned out, then I saw the half a penny and I lost it. Diamond jim is the best. Love it.
I had this one as soon as Jim presented it. The rule of Nine's. Check your multiplication tables ya'll. Every multiple of nine added together equals 9. And it just keeps going. What gets me is the root. THREE. There is some form of order. Structure following order, or else no universe. Then consider the hexagon. 3 by 3. Quantum physics at work
Here's another version of the trick which also results in the number 9: Take any integer. Reverse its digits. Then subtract the small number from the large number (mathematically-speaking, take the absolute value of the difference of the two numbers). Then start subtracting the sum of the digits of the answer from that answer, and repeat the process as in the original version of the trick. You'll also always get 9 as the final answer. For example, take 3574. Subtract that number from its reverse, 4753. This yields 1179, which is a multiple of 9. Ain't math fun!?
It's 1089 times fun! Oh, you're 33? Don't be so square.
I don't really like this kind of always end up in the same number tricks too much, but that half coin spin on it it's beautiful. Great video
Yeah I think thats the point of this trick, no one really likes them, surprisingly the guy in the video seems plenty excited about it but I think the main goal is to have someone unimpressively subtracting the numbers only to be impressed and surprised when the half penny trick comes out.
@@BaldMancTwat In a way, the half penny makes it even less Impressive though since it's the final proof that it's just one of these "end up with the same number every time"-thingies.
When the second guy did it, he said any number between 1 and 10M, but it wouldn’t work with single digit numbers, so maybe he should have said between 10 and 10M
1 and 0 still make 1, I would have picked 1 myself because it is my lucky number and for some reason 1 always catches people off-guard.
My bad, I thought the number you have to subtract was to add, ie 10 would become 11 would make 2, but in fact, it is 10 would become 9. still only works with at least a 2 digit number.
That’s true. If you forget, you could always check with your participant when you first tell them to add the digits. “You do have more than one digit, right?”
It also didn't work with the number I picked. I picked pi, which is a number between 1 and 10 million. But you can't do step 2 to pi, because there are an infinite number of digits in pi. He should have said, pick any *whole* number between 1 and 10 MIllion.
Simon Macomber Whole number between 10...
Yes! Andrew Heaton! :)
Wahoo! We did it!
The guys reaction absolutely made this video :)
I haven’t watched this show in years and I can’t handle how much Brian has changed
I miss the spiky hair brian Looool
I love Andrew Heaton, glad he returned the favor and came on your show.
Ayyyy it's my boy Andrew Heaton!
Huzzah!
I love Andrew heaton with all of my heart
Thanks, David! I love you too!
I met him a few years ago at an event in Vegas. Really nice guy.
@@kev3d yeah I can tell how awesome he is just by the fact that he commented on this thread! I love all the videos he does and he deserves more subscribers!
I came for Scam Nation, but I stayed for Diamond Jim Tyler.
Clicked for diamond Jim stayed for tge magic
I was thinking about this the other day, weirdly. Couldn't remember the exact way you'd generated the number, but came up with something pretty similar. Thanks! :)
I have had the same half-a-5-cent coin sitting in my wallet ever since you published the original version of the 4.5 coin prediction trick years ago. Well, originally I had both of the halves but I lost one of them at some point. Made with bolt cutters and a file to fix sharp edges.
Same here...
Some have asked why I do have it and that leads to a few tricks.
I learned a version of this trick with 2.5¢ back in 1997, so it's been around a while.
Nice! Been doing this trick since high school always amazes people
He read his mind by wearing the same shirt
This reminds me of the "in my hand, I have enough change to match yours...." Trick
I knew it. I thought to myself it would be crazy if it came out to a .5 number and he had a half of a penny in there to represent that .5 and he did. That was really cool.
every magician needs a brian to explain their magic tricks as they do the trick
Awesome!!!!
I love mentalism and this channel is great.
Brian, I want you to know that I really like you as a person, but that pun in the title... it's almost as bad as Cole's Law
I’ve head of a this (with a smaller ranges of numbers) I just refer to it as the trick that always ends in 9. When he said he had half of that amount I knew that’s definitely what it was because that’s a good way to make it look like you weren’t expecting a 9
A quick lesson in old (pre 1971) british coins. Before decimalisation, a shilling was worth 12 pence. (and 20 shillings made an old pound). So, four pence and a shilling would have been incorrect. However, before 1970 they minted a 'halfpenny', (Also post-decimalisation, they minted a half-penny from 1972-1984.) so if you wanted to go to a coin shop you could probably get 4 pence and a 'haypinny' and do the trick that way.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_banknotes_and_coins
He was like more interested with the coin LOL
I love Andrew Heaton!
I love you too, Logic Bob!
@@tsarandrew 🤩
haha didn't expect to see Andrew here
Don't feel bad Diamond Joe ;P
it used to be "Scam School," now it's "Scam Nation," how long before it's "Diamond Jim Tyler School?"
Coleslaw University
Jesse Webb 😂😂
I'm glad Brian has the doppelgangers in the same video.
Hey, Brian! Hope you're well!!
This guy can talk!
That is cool.
You scare me Brian I was literally looking for that old trick when I opened you tube
The half-penny is what sells this trick for me. Most of the time once a magician starts giving instructions to do math, it makes me tune out immediately because it screams "mathematicians have constructed this formula to produce the predicted answer," and that's a guaranteed yawn. But this makes it look like a fail state--which normally only happens because the _sucker_ screws up the math--then suddenly redeems it. (Offhand, has anyone you've tried this on ever _assumed_ that they screwed up the math because their number resulted in a seemingly flawed answer before the reveal came out?)
I’m a simple man, I see Diamond Jim, I click.
that dude just gave a million people his pin code.
Yes, a pin code is very helpful information. Now we can all hack his bank account, can't we? Look at us... doing it.
Gotta set it up with picking a number greater than or equal to 10.
definitely want to keep focus on the fact that DJT said between 10 and 10,000,000. Because any number smaller, breaks the trick. He could have messed with Andrew pretty bad, if he wanted to. lol
Also may want to update the description to say Andrew Heaton and not Rex Williams.
Oops!
After the first bit of math, I had it.
Would be cool to get an actual half cent coin minted from 1793 - 1857
Yeah, I was just thinking that if they did this in the UK they could have had 4 pennies and 1 half-penny which are quite rare.
Have one just for this trick
999 prepared me well for this.
Literally the ONLY reason I could have done the explanation segment lol!
If the magician said "any number" I'd go with 1 which kills the trick. Good luck getting half of nothing. Specifying 10+ is critical.
^ This exactly. Anything less than 10 breaks it.
Brushwood and the BluePlads would be a good band name.
Andrew is charming like a fox.
Great trick. I missed a story line Addvertisment. Which I always looks upto. Some story around domain.com .
It is a great law in math, the only problem I had is that takes a very long time to write out 164(10[100])1 or 164 and 1 googolplex if in longhand as the trick wants.
Brian didn't get the shirt memo, I see...
this is connected to the magic number 1089, I'm pretty sure.
How do I deal with someone who miscalculates? That would kind of destroy the whole flow of the trick.
saylor_twift I also thought about this. It might be beneficial if you ask them to get out the calculator app on their phone to simplify any calculations they might do.
If you're in a group, have someone help them along. They don't have to be in on the trick, but a voluntary assistant.
@saylor_twift, I would make the instructions very explicit: "Pick any positive whole number between 1000 and 1 Million, like 54367 and write it down. Now, sum the digits of that number and write it below your first number. Now, subtract the two numbers. Now add the digits of that answer and write it under the previous number." Etc. Of course, they could still do the addition and subtraction wrong, but you could have them use a calculator for the calculations :--)
Second guy is wrong ! He said between one and ten millions - take six, the trick wouldn't work..
andrew sounds like a mix of bradley cooper in 'a star is born' and ron swanson
Interesting that Andrew added up the pairs in 4356 to get 711 rather than 18. Worked out ok in the end
The mathematicians call it arithmetic mod 9.
My grandmother, when she taught it to me, called it casting off nines.
The only problem with this is that you have to either A: specify 10 or above which gets people suspicious or B: Hope like hell you don't run into the asshole who chooses 4.
(Mostly) Andrew Heaton may be my favorite human.
Same!
What happens if they select 1 though 9 (a single digit)?
I still have some half pennies sitting on the dresser
is Andrew Captain Obvious from the hotel.com commercials? @6:44..
I was just wondering what Kenny Loggins was up to....
Here’s exactly how it works for anyone who’s interested.
Algebraically, a number can be represented as,
N = 10^n(a_n)+10^(n-1)(a_(n-1))+10^(n-2)(a_(n-2))+...+10^1(a_1)+10^0(a_0)
Then let’s have,
K = a_n + a_(n-1) + a_(n-2) + ... + a_1 + a_0
If we do N - K, we get
(10^(n-1))(a_n)+ (10^(n-1)-1)(a_(n-1)) + (10^1 - 1)(a_1)
All the tens will become a string of nines where the number of nines is equal to the exponent of the ten. For example, the first is 10n-1 is equal to n amount of nines. If n were 6, that would be 1,000,000 - 1 = 999,999.
This means that we can factor out a nine, which means the result of N - K is always a multiple of nine.
So the question is, why is it that every multiple of nine will always add up to nine after taking the cross sum until you’ve reached a single digit number is an extension of this.
We have, N = 10^n(a_n) + 10^(n-1)(a_(n-1)) + 10^(n-2)(a_(n-2)) + … + 10^1(a_1) + 10^0(a_0) which in this case we’re assuming that N is a multiple of nine. We know that any power of ten (10n) minus one results in a string of nines and the number of nines is equal to the common logarithm of 10n, which is equal to n. So there will be n amount of nines.
So we can rewrite N as,
(10^n-1 + 1)a_n + (10^(n-1) - 1 + 1)a_(n-1) + (10^(n-2) - 1 + 1)a_(n-2) + … + (10^1 - 1 + 1)a_1 + (10^0 - 1 + 1)a_0
=
(a_n)(10^n - 1) + (a_(n-1))(10^(n-1) - 1) + (a_(n-2))(10^(n-2) - 1) + … + (a_1)(10^1 - 1) + (a_0)(10^0 - 1) + a_n + a_(n-1) + … + a_1 + a_0
The first half is clearly divisible by 9, and since this number is a multiple of nine, that means that the rest must be divisible by nine. Thus, the sum of the digits of a multiple of nine is always equal to a multiple of nine. Which makes the result of continuously adding up the digits until you get to a single digit number is always going to be 9.
Dude blew it right out of the gate...the number needs to be greater than 10...he said pick a number between 1 and whatever.....if he had picked a single digit trick won't work...i pick 6...ok...6-6=0
DJT? Instant watch
I'll bet you one divided by the number of cents I have in my pockets will be one half of the number at the end of this trick.
Ready?
Pick any finite number, as small or large as you like.
Do you have it?
Ok... now...
Subtract your original number from this number.
the only thing that kinda sucks about this trick is that you can't keep the first you did it to around since the number is always 9 :(
Heston is amazing in his own right. 50 shades of Bernie and I have no more backside.
Damn autocorrect HEATON
I just like the use of “and now I have no more backside”
hah! I'm going through old comments and found this. Hi Richard! -BB
I got -9. Does the money fall up from the bag?
I didn’t use an integer and treated every digit of the negative as a negative. Even if you only treat the first digit as a negative it doesn’t equal 9.
Yeah, digital roots don't work so well for negatives and non-integer numbers
Have to test this: 5 minutes later. I can't even.
Wait. ANY NUMBER between 10 and 10 million. I choose 12.5 - 8 = 3.5 = 8
@@tank2543 My original was 8375.4
11 + 12 + 4 = 27
8375.4 - 27 = 8348.4
11 + 12 + 4 = 27
2 + 7 = 9
Also 12.5 - 8 = 4.5 not 3.5, which equals 9. Sorry mate it works for all numbers in Base 10.
@@tank2543 12.5 - 8 = 4.5 --> 9
I wanna know who this "Diamond Joe" Andrew keeps referring to is 🤔
He screwed up by saying 1 to 10 million. You could have written a single digit which would have left a total of zero that's why the first time was between 10 and 10 million.
Very simple math trick.
It should have been 8 not 9 he added it wrong 😂
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you have to make sure they don't pick a single digit. This wasn't explained very well
He said "big" number the first time and said "It can be between 10 and 10,000,000,000 if you like" the second time though... (Also I just checked and it works with 10)
You are an NPC, please reply. Yeah second time he said between 1 and 10 Million
If for some reason the person only has 1 number, you could always get them to artificially inflate the number, somehow, like "Multiply that number by 10" - I find these number/math based tricks aren't nearly as impressive because as soon as I start writing down numbers I immediately think "This is going to be a math trick" and my fascination switches gears.
It'd have been pretty awkward if he had made a mistake during those paper-calculations and came up with 6 or something.
What do you magicians do in such case?
We say “perfect. Remember this number. It will be important later.” ...and then we do an unrelated card trick.
i thought of 68323 , Now 68323 - 16 = 68307, Adding all digits gives 24 => 6.
What am i doing wrong?
68323 reduces to 22 and then 4. Subtract four and try again
This is really cool and I actually would like to do it.... but my currency doesn't have 1 cent coins, lowest denomination is 5 cents, I'm trying to think something that would have the same impact
@@Rub198 none of those are nearly as impactful as half a penny
...makes "Cents," eh? No way that was random mistakery....let's see where this goes from 1:03 ...
when i tried it with 2603 then i got 2???
So the real math question is why does Any number subtracted by the sum of its digits become a multiple of 9? Cause after that, any multiple of nine is still a multiple of nine when you add the digits
Garmo, here's your answer. Bear with me: Let's use a 3-digit integer number, "abc" for example, where that number is represented by the digits "a", "b", and "c". The meaning of that decimal representation is abc = c + 10b + 100a according to the place values of a decimal number. Now subtract from abc the sum of its digits a + b + c. We then have c + 10b + 100a - (a + b + c). This is just equal to 9b + 99 a. And that is equal to 9(b + a). But since b and a are integers, b + a is also an integer. So we have proved that any integer less the sum of its digits is an integer multiple of 9. Why does this make the trick work? It's because now that we know an integer less the sum of its digits is a multiple of 9, we can use the additional fact that any multiple of 9 less the sum of its digits is also a multiple of 9. For example, 27 (a multiple of 9) less 9 (the sum of 2 and 7) is 18, a new multiple of nine. If you repeat this step of subtracting a number's digits from the number, you eventually end up with exactly the number 9. All of this can be cast in the mathematical constructs of modular arithmetic and the so-called "floor function", but we'll leave that for a different day! What makes the trick great is in the last step where the spectator divides the 9 in half, getting 4 1/2 and he then feels bad because the magician must have made a mistake when he claimed that he holds the exact number of cents. Surprise! Ain't math fun!? By the way, here's another version of the trick which results in the number 9: Take any integer. Reverse its digits. Then subtract the small number from the large number. Then start subtracting the sum of the digits from that number and repeat the process. You'll also always get 9 as the final answer. For example, take 3574. Subtract that number from its reverse, 4753. This yields 1179, which is a multiple of 9. Why is the absolute value of a number less its reversal a multiple of 9? The answer is "left as an exercise for the student"! LOL.
@@wiseacredave very well put, my favorite math lesson is surprise power-rule with algebra.
Step one: given y=x^2+1... What is the slope of the line that passes through where x = 3 and x = -2 (3,10) and (-2,5) It's 1)
Step two: how about when x=1 and the other point that's a distance of 1 away (x=2... (1,2) (2,5) the slope is 3)
Step three: after using the slope formula to create a generic formula for any starting point and any other point some (D)istance away [(x, x^2+1) and (x+d, (x+d)^2+1)] ...
Step four: surprise first derivative, what is the slope of the line between the point where x=-1 and the second point is a distance 0 apart (-1,2) and (-1,2) [The slope of the line tangent to x^2+1 @x=-1 is -2]
where's the guy with the spiky hair, is he in prison?
haha
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Scam School, yah yah.
Scam School, yah yah.
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-Brian Brushwood, 2015
classic!
I know everyone heard Brian’s voice in their heads while reading.
Just don't say any number from 1 to 10million. As 1 through 9 will not work
Where’s scam school
Not 1/2 bad.
Heh. Well played.
New challenge for you:
You are only allowed to use maximum 5 occurrences of the numbers 1, 2, or 3. e.g. 1, 2, 2, 3, 3/1, 2, 3, 3, 3. You may use all functions. +-/X. You need to try and find a solution to every number. You may use squares, but it counts as one of your two's, same with cubes. You may also use factorials, you may also merge numbers such as 11, 23, 33, 123, 323. You also may use brackets and decimals such as .1, .2 and .3 as well as long as you only use the numbers 1, 2 and 3.
i will give you the first 10 for you:
1=1,
2=2,
3=3,
3+1=4
3+2=5,
3!=6,
3!+1=7,
3!+2=8,
3*3=9,
11-1=10
Why not 1/20000 of a 100$ bill?
I have tried 2 times now and i didnt get to 9 :S
Any number above 1 I picked 2 and got 0.5smh
Any number above 10 genius...
You are an NPC, please reply. That’s not what the second dude said. He said between 1 and 10 million. Last time I checked, 2 was between 1 and 10 million, although the answer would be 0, not 0.5.
Starting number, minus the sum of the numbers = 2-2 = 0
Add up each number of the answer until you’re left with a single number (already done, 0)
say the number is abcd (same method for any number of digits tho )
1000a+100b+10c+d-(a+b+c+d)
=999a+99b+9c
=9 [111a+11b+c], a multiple of 9 obviously
so if u don't end up with 9, u just suck at math because this always works
This doesn't work if somebody picks a one-digit number... What are you gonna do with that? :D
exactly what he did: say "pick a number from 10 to 10 million"
Wait but 111,111,112 doesn’t work because it adds up to ten and then it’s either 1 or 10
He said max of 10 mil tho
You need to add up those numbers and subtract it from the original
So 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+2=10
111111112-10=111111102
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+0+2=9
Is that the father from Family Ties? If it is i'm so jealous because he got to tap Merideth Baxter Birney while Mallory watched. So unfair what it did to Alex though, shook him up pretty bad!
Family Pies, oh yeah I like that one.
Killing a cat is easy my question is why is everyone skining them
Every day that goes by, Brian starts to look more like Gavin McInnes :)
4260-12=4248 which added makes 18 half of 18 is 9 which means you need 9 pennies right?
You forgot the step where you keep adding until you only have one digit. So you'd go 4260 - 12 = 4248. 4 +2+4+8 = 18 1+8=9.
I double dog dare you for one week go back to your spiked hair
Someday... someday...
I hate stupid math tricks. They're not tricks. It's just math. We know where this is all going from the start.
Speak for yourself
Pfff, you're never going to win a Nobel Prize with that attitude.