Jordan Peterson | Club Random with Bill Maher
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Go deep and wide with Bill and Dr. Jordan Peterson on: Jordan almost dying, how the Canadian government froze the assets of protesters, Bill’s take on when the Left goes too far, the fascinating checklist for psychopathic behavior, the true danger of virtualized communication, the five categories of males attractive to women, why today’s children are hyper-valued, how Jordan knows 200 people who have been cancelled, and SO much more, watch to the end!!
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Peterson is back to the level he was at before he got sick. The enthusiasm, the body language, the flow etc
He didn't get sick. He was a closet valium addict pretending to be a messiah for young boys before his addiction completely ruined his life and he had to come out as a phony. It wasn't a flu hahahahaha
He is doing great, and I know from experience, the difficulty to intellectualize and communicate while your brain is healing from benzo withdrawal, is absolutely terrifying and so hard. I can hear it in his voice, I absolutely respect this man for having the courage to build himself back up, because it absolutely feels like a swimming through a sea of anxiety and fear.
Before he got sick? He's addict and partier.
@@pdxraptorhe’s back on the benzos, he’s feeling great
i was thinking this too
“Someone who is narcissistic wants unearned social status.” He summed it up so perfectly and concisely.
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I think he says “unearned” to clarify that you are not a narcissist if you think highly of your own high achievements.
@QED996 right but narcissists want the extra, I have all the achievements so why aren't you listening to me about something totally unrelated.
That clip of Crowder arguing with his wife, is he an accomplished broadcaster and millionaire, absolutely, but doesn't mean he's lord of the car keys. He has status as the bread winner, but that domineering bit is the unearned extra.
@@QED_ It's not about being a high achiever it's about wanting unearned social status. That doesn't mean the person is bottom of the barrel.
@@QED_Peterson himself is narcissistic
Peterson can armchair about narcissism... and he knows it like nobody else... precisely because he is one
I loved this conversation. I like the fact that when they didn't agree they didn't vilify the other person. This is what is missing in media on a larger scale.
Exactly this. I think so many of us are just flat out fatigued by the divisive vitriol between the Right and Left at this point.
If so, check out Peterson, Rubin, Shapiro plus guests round tables. Good stuff!
@@MandarinCamille sounds absolutely terrible
Well, aren't you just a ball of positivity 😂.@finejustgivemeaname
@@finejustgivemeaname You''re welcome to stay in your safe space echo chamber but some of us aren't afraid to hear what people from different political persuasions have to say.
One thing that Jordan does in interview is brilliant. When he is about to make an extended point, he will say something like "..and you can tell me what you make of this..." That makes the other person sit back and listen harder, and tend to not interrupt because they want to look insightul in their reply. I need to do that more.
It's genius, but it's done so naturally that it took your comment for me to really appreciate its simple potential. 🙂
Now, what are your thoughts about the impending global takeover by penguins, and their inevitable enslavement of humanity, and felines...
Look up different charm and charisma techniques if you like that sort of thing.
Jordan's basically framing it as a question not a statement, making the conversation about what Bill thinks not what Jordan thinks. Keeps the person far more involved and comfortable.
It’s actually a REALLY bad habit Dr Peterson has. When he says “and you can tell what you think of this” it’s him showing self consciousness about the fact that he knows he should ask a question or stop talking.
He’s self aware enough to know he’s being a bad conversationist, but he doesn’t have the humility self control to actually stop.
He does the exact same thing as a host, and there are entire episodes where he just steamrolls kind, interesting, guests who his audience, like myself, would love to hear!
@@joshsweird idiotic take
I’ll echo what many others here said - this was Bill’s best episode to date. Their thoughts on religion and relationships run completely counter to one another’s, yet they both engaged in the conversation and listened to each other. Made for a great listen.
Society could learn from these 2 on how to conduct yourself if you want to get your point across , which will never happen .
Jordan Always listens!!!! Not quite the same for Bill!!!!!
I am hopeful that JP understands and accepts that people can be happy in a life away from the typical life (married, kids, etc)
Wire like neuronal structures that conduct electricity via ions/neurotransmitters in the CNS/PNS possess no attribute of thinking/life and yet that has “randomly” led to life. Consciousness/thinking is an innate idea(“Fitra”) that is distinct from carbon skeleton and yet the materialist scientist believes that chemistry turned into biology via “god of randomness”/”Emergent property”/”law of nature”. Consciousness can only stem from Necessary Consciousness (Allah-one/indivisible/loving/self-sufficient Perfection)
@@di3486only in the modern sense, most of the time, with the pleasures that we’re afforded., via the wealth that’s been created. It’s a new phenomenon
It’s cliche to say, but we need more of this. Two people with opposing views just conversing respectfully and getting along.
Relatively few opposing views, I think. They seem to agree more often than not, from topic to topic; as, I suspect, would almost any two people, if they could remain cordial. 😅
Bill is a liberal,not a Leftist. The former debate, the latter destroy.
This was good to see.
Nah, drama is way more interesting. I love Bill's cringe and how he unapologetically makes faux pas after faux pas. He's rude, arrogant, bossy, selfish and forces his guests down into a sex dungeon and interrogates them. It's amazing when it all goes to shit lol
Oh yea opposing views.🙄
@@auturgicflosculator2183 This is the thing....I think we all agree on more than "they" want you to think!!
This is the most respectful I have ever seen Bill Maher. JP commands that respect b/c he gives it woth humility.
These interviews are better for Bill than anyone else. He is finally getting himself educated on what is really going on in the world rather than what he thinks is going on.
He literally interviews dozens of high profile people on Real Time. And he researches topics with his team. Seems it's you who is clueless.
He does really good until he gets drunk and reverts back to childhood.😂😂
Better for all of us as he doesn't just interview 'Yes Men' as political butt kissers Hannity and Maddow do.
Very well said. I applaud Bill for being open to that education and being challenged and the process is interesting to observe.
@@magnetiktraxi agree with you. It’s always amazing to me that people mistake having an opinion as being “uneducated”. Bill has been doing this for how long now? At some point a person just absorbs information imagine it after 20+ years. He didn’t know about Trailer Park Boys so I guess there’s that 😂. Bill knows what’s up!
When Bill said, “I’m your biggest fan, I don’t care who knows it”, I found that very touching how sincere he was
Maher is also an old friend of Ann Coulter, and doesn't hide that either.
No Bill, Justin Trudeau is Jordan's biggest fan! 😁
If we can see and feel how quickly the tide is turning against the fascist fake woke left, imagine how badly they are freaking out seeing the same thing! I love it!
Bill is fully capable of being a useful host, but the structure of his show is not at all optimized to allow him to be so.
@@88HAILSTONE where is she these days.
1:03:07 "Men are like 'I'll kill you, and women are like 'I'll make you kill yourself'"
This made me holler laughing out loud. So freakin' true! Such a great line!
NOT TRUE, no one can “make” you kill yourself.
This is what a conversation ought to be. A respectful exchange of information, ideas, and different viewpoints. Dr. Peterson is a Canadian treasure. A wonderful exchange of info & humor.👏👏
Amazing and refreshing. Restores faith in humanity
It is indescribable joy two watch two self-aware, highly intelligent, authentic People with real integrity, for both of whom I have highest respect, together in funny, civilized conversation!
What I love about Dr Peterson is he can talk to people from all walks of life and share his intelligence without sounding condescending.
Ie a smarter guy in the room who isn’t a narcissist. So lovely
Peterson is a rock star
Even though Marr gave him many opportunities to be condescending. An intelligent humble man in conversation with a far less intelligent arrogant man highlights the attributes of both by the contrast.
Yes, exactly!
Yes! He can speak to people as equals.
Jordan Peterson is in proper form. He’s even cracking wise, making a comedian laugh. Good on him!
Orbanist Nazi State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
JBPeterson: My message to the Hungarians is do not rebel against your Prime Minister. I know that one of the things your PM is trying to reinstitute the metaphysical foundations of Hungarian culture. He might be lucky and succeed.
Another guest of Viktor Orbán in the Führer-Castle, Father Jim Blount: I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your Prime Minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor.
It isn't hard to get a laughing bafoon to laugh. He was actually laughing before the punchline.
@@squigglyline2813 Bill is stoned, so he's giggly.
@@soulscanner66 HAHAHAAHAHAHAH !!!!!
Cracking wise? Cringe
Dr.Peterson is a national treasure who needs to be protected.
Amen❤❤
Bill Maher is the one man in the limelight with the balls (confidence) to express in an utmost honest and transparent manner his admiration for JBP, and thus reflecting how much I too love that man. Thank you Bill Maher for telling Peterson the sentiment of the common man. You indeed are his biggest fan for the simple fact of taking the opportunity to tell him. Humility breaths sincerity and I felt it.
Bill Maher wants to wipe out half the population. You might want to choose better
It's good to see Perterson in a conversation with this amount of humour.
Bill is to stupid to even talk to me Peterson
BAHAAAA!
Viktor Orban State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
JBPeterson: I know that one of the things your PM is trying to do is reinstitute the metaphysical foundations of Hungarian culture. He might be lucky and succeed. My message to the Hungarians is that you should not rebel against your prime minister, he will resurrect the thousand-year-old Hungarian empire.
Another guest in the Führer-Castle, Father Jim Blount USA
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your Prime Minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor.
@@kathrynmcelroy5658
He’s hilarious, but probably not in the way you think he is. The WHINING from straight, cis, male incels is on full display. Lysistrata is coming your way.
Right??? Even Maher suddenly makes sense again…!!! Brilliant conversation. Damn he Ruckes it up at the end with the wife segment…!!!
Love the low key therapy session and how Jordan really tries to unpack Bill's college trauma
As they all do. And we all see it. It's so funny. Bill has so much stuff to work through and is somehow barely aware of it
Oh yeah. Bill has some things to unpack for sure.
I love how JP red pills Bill. He's an atheist so immediately for me, he's a narcissistic clown.
@@ivanamicimici How could it ever be important or "needed" if the person isn't aware about it. I miss when people were just allowed to live and be people without useless shrinks being pushed from every side.
@@EximiusDux because the person is a fucked up mess, and maybe being woken up to the fact will better the psychosis they are blind to?
I've heard a lot of great podcast episodes, but this is may be my favorite of all time. What an amazing conversation.
This is the best interview. I've never seen Bill so happy during these interviews than this one!
Bill Maher AND Jordan Peterson on Club Random? This just made my day!!! ❤️
Said no woman EVER
Jordan's farts are smarter than Bill....just don't tell Bill.
@@vonschafer3524 Jordan is a dangerous and ill informed “intellectual” just like Bill, they make money off the backs of insecure men who can’t think for themselves, congrats on telling on yourself 👍
I love them both, but i think the anti maskers are big babies. Wa Wa i dont want to wear a mask.
@@kathylalka5349 no one’s worn a mask in two years, typical straw man argument
Jordan Peterson giving a shout out to the Trailer Park Boys only solidifies how real and trustworthy he is.
Truth!!!
Or could it be virtue signaling? Again, too many assumptions and not enough questions! Come on folks - think more critically!
. . . the words of a bonafide sociopath with an astronomical holier-than-thou personality.
@@cCstLadyMeowsHow is it a virtue to make mention of a comedy show?
@@Absurd-WomanOf all the valid criticisms of JP out there, I don't the even the most deranged, unhinged, autistic of JP haters out there would claim he lacks empathy or compassion like a sociopath... How are you even coming to such an outlandish delusions?
You are helping Bill to wake up Jordan.....and us all!!!!
May you use commas, in all your future endeavors!
You are helping, Bill, to wake up Jordan… and us all!
I think you meant the following:
You are helping Bill, to wake up, Jordan…. and us all!
The first sentence, Bill is helping to wake up Jordan; in the second sentence, Jordan is waking up Bill.
I’m not a comma master, but I was sure confused. God Bless!
@@anopinion9830 Are, you, an, idiot,?,?,?
Brilliant conversation. Jordan is the absolute GOAT
Loved when Peterson was starting to crack what’s at the psychological root of Bill’s obviously obsessive, eternal, “single guy” persona and just as Peterson had him on the couch Bill shouts, “Wait, don’t treat me like a science experiment.” Lol
@kurtmcvey7086 I’m wondering if Bill never married and had children because he could not imagine a way to pull off how he believes it should be done. (?). He certainly seems to have some good instincts about how children should be raised.
Nothing slips past JBP 🧐
I wish he got to the bottom of why Bill was wearing that shirt
@@FeatherfinderBill has no business commenting on parenting as well as anyone else that isn’t a Mom or Dad
@@Wafaloo He kept praising Peterson's suit to distract from that shirt. Bill was in Jeff Spicoli mode. I'm surprised he didn't have a pizza delivered during the conversation.
Holy crap. The bit about the Canadian government locking 200 people out of the financial system is mind blowing.
you didnt hear about that when it happened?
Yup! That actually happened in today's so-called democracy in Canada. And people continue to support that fool.
@@RBR-lo2eiIt needed to be done. Those truckers were fuckers.
Goes to show you how authoritarian and reactionary the left has become.
Those truckers took over a city and kept ppl from their lives. And the right supports this. They are the fascists.@@bperez8656
I’ve been following JP for years! This interview helped me understand much more about him. He’s definitely someone I ought to expand my horizons with.
A drug addict?
Wow,...this was friggin' intense. Yeah,...scary too. This was a DAMN good interview. My respect for Bill Maher just keeps going higher and higher every day.
He was stumbling over his words and repeatedly diverted from conversation with Jordan on numerous topics. Not sure if drunk, old, or uneducated on the issue.
Bill has nothing to offer other than "mean ol' trump". Bill is hanging from the last few threads of Trump derangement, and as young people abandon the left, identity politics, and wokism, they are supporting Trump more and more. One of the most popular rap songs in America is a song supporting Trump.
Bill has become as obscure as other Hollywood hypocrites, worried about "mean words on Twitter" while the world burns.
That's what I see off bill every. Single. Time. I don't understand why people love the guy. No hate, I truly truly do not get it. @@BlLL_LUMBERGH
@@BlLL_LUMBERGHboth, and still did it with enough dignity to be impressive.
This coming from a conservative Christian.
This was absolutely what conversation is supposed to be. Absolutely the most balanced give and take I’ve seen in a long time. Bravo
I thought the same, usually u see people competing to talk, this discussion flowed so nice mutually it was relaxing to watch
Especially when Bill is involved. He loves to hear himself talk!!
If you like that style of interview, you should listen to The Political Orphanage. Dude's a bit goofy, but he's funny and charming and has infinite good faith while he's disagreeing with all of his heart.
John 14:21
11-16?!
When the intention of the conversation is aimed at understanding an individual on a human level rather than shallow political point scoring, this is the end result. I intended to watch this in segments and yet I watched the whole thing in one sitting. Please continue using your platform as a means of encouraging such civil discourse in wider society. Thank you.
I couldn't agree more.
Does make me wonder how bad an influence it is, when the examples we're shown of how to behave - when it's not outright scripted - is a bunch of people who trained their whole lives to combine peddling ideology, serving their party and lying. Either in settings where they talk in an echochamber, or where they scream to make sure the other guy can't get a comprehensible message out.
Do we merely watch the stupid theatre, or do we at some level start thinking that's how grownups are supposed to act?
@@sorsocksfakea universal question of the ages mate! Well said.
An inevitable state bc of mass formation and menticide. The psychology of it is fascinating and terrifying.
I would pay large to attend a live Bill /Jordan conversation. Entertaining and enlightening!
This was one of the most productive conversations I have ever seen. Brilliant
0:13: 👨💼 The conversation covers the host's illness, Canadian politics, and the seizure of bank accounts during a protest.
9:27: 🤔 The speaker discusses the negative impacts of lockdowns, mask mandates, and the rise of wokeness on society.
20:02: 😱 There is a small minority of people who are manipulative and use compassion as a camouflage, which is leading to a deviation from classical liberalism.
27:41: 📺 The internet has changed modes of communication, enabling reputation savaging and polarization.
37:08: 🗣 The speaker discusses the different types of sins and their relation to people in media and entertainment.
46:35: 😮 The speaker discusses various factors contributing to the current state of parenting and societal values.
55:35: 💡 The speaker discusses the interference of intergenerational transmission of parenting knowledge and the limitations of liberalism, emphasizing the importance of nested relationships in maintaining mental health.
1:04:51: 📚 The conversation discusses the idea of establishing a covenant with God and the importance of speaking up when called upon to do so.
1:12:58: 💡 The discussion explores the significance of storytelling and the moral obligation to speak the truth in society, particularly in the entertainment industry.
1:21:27: 👥 The speaker reflects on their upbringing and how it shaped their perspective on adulthood and friendships.
1:30:11: 😔 The speaker discusses the challenges of maintaining passion and intimacy in long-term relationships.
1:38:43: ✨ The speaker discusses the challenges of living and touring with someone, the importance of maintaining privacy boundaries, and the benefits of having separate rooms.
1:47:12: 🌍 The speaker declines an invitation to a conference in London due to their dislike of overseas travel.
Recap by Tammy AI
Thank you so much ! You helped me dodge most Bills crudity. 😁👍👏👏👏👏
One of my favorite parts was at 1:30:25 when Bill talks about the horrible dread of being sick of looking at a hypothetical wife everyday, and how “everyone” looses passion for their wife eventually. Then Jordan says he’s never lost passion for his wife, and he embraces her in total love all of the time… then there’s an awkward pause… I think that’s one of the most wholesome conversations I’ve ever seen between a contrast of people. Notice how Jordan is vibrant, optimistic, and energetic, and Bill is shriveled and negative. That speaks volume.
Thank you
Long live Jordan Peterson! - one of the only people that causes my brain to grow every time I listen to him.
I am in my 70's, and much of the same wisdom that comes from JP was related to me by my teachers in the 50's and 60's. From what I read of schools and the teachers of today, it explains one major factor contributing to the deconstruction of our once civil society.
I feel happy that doing tough unsexy stuff with my Mrs. actually makes my love for her so much deeper. It was like a butchers floor down there.
that is your problem
Alan Watts, CG Jung, Joe Campbell... Lots of influencers who have died are still influencers.
Yeah, it's probably a tumor...
Haven't heard a more intelligent & insightful conversation in some time. Great stuff.
You're a Canadian so your halfway there (to being a comedian) Brilliant.
Jordan with Haight or Weinstein or Murray is always great. But Jordan with someone like Maher is incredible because we get to see him so very subtly try to meet the need Maher has. Jordan's ever so gently providing therapeutic insight. You can even hear it in his voice when Jordan says, 'Well, Bill, you know this,' making it easier for Maher to accept something he doesn't want to accept.
Jordan is so many things, but at his very core I think he's just a loving man who is compelled to help as many people as humanly possible.
I agree with you 100%! I'm surprised that more people haven't commented on this.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Bill Maher was very open, and Jordan Peterson was even more open, and………… Bill really gets triggered about certain subjects and insists there is a absolute truth about certain kinds of behavior.
Please more conversations like this with Dr. Peterson.Thank you Bill for allowing this conversation to flow❣️
We need stav and jp doing a flip this house but with private ped islands
Come here often?
@@TheArabConservative I bend the knee to no compass......west sahyyyyde
1:48:47 at the sphere, in Las Vegas
i know, i like more natural conversations. no matter who you are or what you believe in. lets all get together and enjoy life with getting drunk and having a good conversation!
That was an incredible conversation! Thanks to both
Wow love this content. Thank you Bill Maher for having Jordan Peterson on the Podcast. Guaranteed there are many hanging on every word between the two of you. Great minds and much Respect to both of you.
It is so good to see Dr. Peterson healthy! Was such a good talk!
What made him sick?
@@Anigmamabenzo addiction and an immunity issue. Primarily benzo addiction though
Harlots
@@yajy4501We should make clear he wasn't just abusing drugs. He was prescribed them by his psychiatrist for anxiety issues which worsened when his wife got diagnosed with fatal cancer (which actually turned out to be not fatal in the end, bit of a miracle recovery).
I appreciate Maher’s ability to have a very serious political conversation while keeping it light hearted and sometimes silly. It’s a very helpful approach.
Helpful? It's certainly much different from how the majority of democrats in media.
NAZI!!!! Hahahahahaha! It's funny now, but jeez... f|_|ck righteous idealists from every angle, especially the bleeding hearts. I have no problem with realistic reasonable liberals as they have valid points and views, but whatever that was, a PC culture war from Hell, can just stay the f|_|ck in Hell.
10 years ago I couldn’t even look at him without disdain. Nowadays, agree or not I respect his opinion and actively seek out his content .
Jordan doesn’t laugh much at bill wry humor. Bill is laughing at his own jokes. Which is so funny
Politics is silly. We treat it like a team sport now and we all take it far too seriously.
Fantastic show Bill. Well done.
This is a wonderful conversation. I will come back to it again and again...
Packed with useful information, delighted laughter, deep sorrow, fear, stress and anxiety, and so much more. This will be watched again and again and again.....
Thank you Bill. Such great stuff !!
One of the best and most authentic conversations I have heard on any platform in a long time. Two guys sharing some ideas and perspectives not trying to talk over each other but just being human. Well done, gentlemen.
Looking back a few years, Maher probably wouldn't have gotten along with Peterson so well then. It's nice to see the wakeup call got through to him and many others.
bruh it turned into a bill maher therapy session wdym
Gross
Wow a fucking conversation, stop the presses that's a miracle.
the wisdom of men is foolishness to God... and His wisdom is foolish to carnal men
The chemistry between these two is obviously good. It would be really fun to see them together again. It was probably my favorite episode of the series so far.
YES!!! Do doubt.
I could do without him digging through his medicine chest like a distracted grandpa while his guest is speaking. But I used to love bill back in the day. Good thing he is doing things outside of hbo. He was growing mold there.
@@elizabethgaytan3314
I don't think he was dissing him at all. When you get together with friends, do YOU continually stare at them?? Again, more like two old friends talking, not like a heavily-structured television show.
I found it pretty wholesome and pleasant to listen to.
@elizabethgaytan3314 - Bill problem has always been him believing Pot has made him a deep thinker, not the annoying know it all at the party.
I have watched a lot of JBP conversations - and several Bill’s shows - and this made an alloy of the best of both of them… 5/5 stars
I actually felt relaxed and very comfortable throughout the entire conversation. So much right was said. Please do this more often ;)
so lame..don't you realise these two addicts enable each other as theatre entertainment for a gullible audience ..
When Bill says "our team" I almost fell out my chair. Bill Maher and Jordan Peterson are not on the same team or same level
Two gentlemen, wildly different lives, lifestyles, and viewpoints, and still manage to make jokes and be friends. This is how we learn to live together in peace. By realizing that not everyone will share your views on how to live, and that's perfectly ok. It's ultimately what our country is about. Freedom to live how you want. And when we disagree we realize that the most important thing is not who's right, but how we treat each other. These two have EARNED the definition of gentlemen.
Very well said. No to impose your life onto others and listening to ask the right questions.
Spot on.
The positive use of the term "gentlemen" is lost in our current generation. A true gentleman was manly. yet well mannered and well read. Many men of my generation strove to embody those ideal. If you would like to witness, firsthand, the state of manners and civility in the U.S., Go to a Wal-Mart on a Saturday and cut ahead of someone in line.
What we witnessed on this podcast is an excellent example of two gentlemen having a relaxing conversation on topics that demand an extensive knowledge base. This dialog is a good model for our young men to aspire toward. For many young men, it would be a brilliant choice.
You honestly think these two guys are that different? Why on Earth? Because of how they are advertised or something?
Can you name three major differences in their opinions? I honestly don't know, I'm ignorant. To me they seem to be in the same camp, as Maher says himself.
Peterson has some wild ideas, but you can't say he doesn't have a sense of humor about his fame.
Props to Bill for actually letting his guest speak
He should have Bill Burr in his podcast, and THIS TIME, let him talk lol..
Yea Bill was annoying during the Russel Brand interview, that has to be his worst one yet. But Bill has many great episodes, and a few stinkers.
@@ArkticDark
Haha too be honest though, who wants to hear Russell Brand give his thoughts on anything. Yuck
@@abstractdaddy1384 Presumably people who clicked on a video interview with Russell Brand.
Outstanding. You two remind me that human beings have it within them to be great. Thank you.
Both Bill and Jordan are two
of my faves. Great to hear you guys and see you together. What a great conversation . I would like to hear there conversation now with what’s happening in Israel
“At least we do better than engineers” 😂 excellent
For me it was nice to see Jordan Peterson not having to be super cautious with every word he's saying. He could be relaxed and really engage in a fun back and forth with a like minded individual. Thx Bill for doing this :D
They both seem really relaxed and its nice to see. Bill is much funnier when he's not trying to score points and is just enjoying himself. The live audience on his show was a mistake.
Viktor Orban State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
JBPeterson: I know that one of the things your PM is trying to do is reinstitute the metaphysical foundations of Hungarian culture. He might be lucky and succeed. My message to the Hungarians is that you should not rebel against your prime minister, he will resurrect the thousand-year-old Hungarian empire.
Another guest in the Führer-Castle, Father Jim Blount USA
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your Prime Minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor.
Throwing around multi syllabic words apparently works for Peterson. Rubes think that anything more than two syllables in a word means it’s smart.
They're not like minded. Peterson is an ardent Christian while Maher is an atheist.
@lindyhazel6212 no comment on what Dr.Peterson is saying?
Just some shallow remark on the words being used.
Great to see Peterson and Bill speaking again and have a chance to real conversation outside of a show format.
Wait, this isn't a show? Am I awake? 😂
Does Jordan cry?
@@sthubbins4038 Your mom cries about the way you turned out.
Imagine JP was like - "lemme see that, just one time..."
@desperateneedofscotch You think only "whiny" reporters think "orange man bad"? In case you hadn't noticed, more than half the country does as well.
Love this interview. I always find something lovely about people from such different professions and to a degree perspectives sharing and being together in a great friendly constructive conversation.
Two of my favourite people!!! What a great conversation!!
So weird watching Bill just listen and not interrupt all the time. More of this please.
Because he was to stoned to follow the conversation,............very often
He respects Dr Petersons intelligence, he’s really a big fan as he stated.
I read this every time I look at the comments, I just don't see it!
The conversations always seem to be even and free flowing to me
@@partofme100nah, he's showing legit respect for his guest.
@@1stSonOfJames Im with you on this, Bill respects Dr. Petersons Intellect, I think its pretty easy to see he admires his Grit as well. Both of these guys are the tip of the spear. They are cancel proof.
Thank you Bill for having Jordan on your show. Very enjoyable to listen to two gifted people having intelligent conversation as adults. This is what cable TV and media do not have.
the liberal pot smoking atheist who doesn't believe in marriage against the conservative marriage and responsibilty darling of the right head to head, yes if they showed up at a theatre I would actually watch that!
Bill has the talent and gift of being a broken clock.
He's right twice a day.
@@atthecore4560 Why watch? Is your life that empty?
@@RalphTGP Ralph are you aware that BIll is Hugh Hefner's son? Need I say more.
As I told someone above, my husband & I were invited to one of Bill's moonlight madness parties he held regularly at his mansion one summer's night. His date must have been no more "IF" 15 years old high on coke & drunk a little blonde bimbo, Bill was a little Hef that night. Gross.
@@RalphTGP I like to stay informed about current takes from shit-talkers.
It reminds me why I believe in the concept of the individual.
You must have two honest people who actually have a goal that mostly overlaps to get this sort of honest conversation. This is a fine example of that.
A very informative conversation. I couldn't stop watching it.
What I love about Bill Maher is that he has the balls to invite people that have different point of views from him and have a decent conversation.
As trivial as that sounds, we rarely see this in today’s corporate media… No wonder I’m a huge fan!
Cheers from 🇧🇷 and much respect!
They have exactly the same viewpoints - woke bad, and then lets figure out how to monetise this
My thoughts exactly, it's so nice to see prominent figures who disagree on many issues sitting down with each other and actually talking!
@@SomeWryObservations is it really that simple?
This JP dude though is on some drugs I'm gunna tell ya hahahaha. Weird guy.
@@usware5240With Bill it kinda seems that way
Was so good to see Mr. Peterson just relaxed and talking with Bill Maher.
It's Professor
@@kudzaim7251Mr! Titles are nothing but grandiose, deserving or not.
@@robertholland7558 Really! So don't use Mr at all! Have some respect for people who have genuinely achieved some much in their lives
@@kudzaim7251 Titles of merit should be limited to those in the same field
Thank you Bill Maher
and Dr. Jordan Peterson
for enlightening all of us!
God bless you.
Sincerely, with love,❤
Aleth Jimenez
Bill, Jordan, keep the dialog going. Truth dies when we don’t speak allowed.
This was my favorite Club Random exchange I've ever watched. Jordan let his hair down a bit, even though he was dapper in his 3 piece suit in an informal setting. My favorite part was when a 61 year old Jordan let Bill know that it was very possible to experience marital love, romance, and have an active sex life with a wife he's known since childhood.
Bill is mentally ill and lost due to being an atheist
It was a little sad too, to hear Bill not being able to develop a long term relationship with a partner other than friends just because of "lack of novelty", I'm not saying that single life is bad, just mentioning that his reasoning was very much superficial.
The fact this went for nearly two hours shows how invested Bill Maher was in the conversation. These two should do a limited series of podcast conversations. They could achieve so much with their respective audiences.
if you go follow Jordan his podcast, you will be very happy (i think?) to see how many 'diamonds' of conversations he has there.
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I agree, I would listen to them for hours. There should be plenty of overlap between their respective audiences. I, for one, follow both of them. It shouldn't come as a surprise if there was a big overlap considering they are both moderate, reasonable people who simply don`t shy away from the truth, much like most of society for that matter.
old men do tend to ramble on...and on. and on. and on.
Lol
I like the part of the conversation about the addiction to social media and the cell phone and how that has polarized society. We need to put our phones down, read more, and spend more time in nature.
That scissor kills me. I love Dr. Peterson and hope one day he'll do my show. This was a great conversation.
Dr. Peterson gave Bill a therapy session and he didn’t know it. Lol. Despite these two having different viewpoints on 75% of issues, Bill opened up more with the good Doctor than most of his guests. Very good show.
It's your perogative to look at it that way...But God, I certainly don't...A good conversation is simply a good conversation, and someone simply being more open can simply be quite nice, not a "therapy session".
@@serpentines6356 I think it kinda was therapy on a way as bill was learning things about him self and other people. It's not a bad thing at all. I too agree that his temperament is very nice as well as his openness. When you think about it a therapist goes through therapy just by learning to be a therapist. Everyone has faults so the best therapists are the ones who take their training personally in the most positive way. We're all just people relying on others at the end of the day.
@@serpentines6356 I don't agree: a good conversation is always therapeutic whether intended or not
@@serpentines6356talking to someone without being judged or looked down on IS therapy nowadays.
@@reneomarsantanalol your disagreement sounds suspiciously like agreement? Intention is not necessary to be therapy is my point.
"We do better than engineers" slayed. 😂 I'm an engineer and I approve this joke.
Same here, "I laughed, but it hurt a little" lol
An engineer that says slayed...... I never thought I'd see the day.
My engineer honey is a such a nerd, but I love him all the same!! He’s 100% honorable!!
Sounds like engineers have telling the truth in their job description
this was a great episode, thank you Bill.
This was the most sane conversation iv heard in a long time. Extremely refreshing for me .
2 points made by Jordan Peterson that were revelations to me. 1. Tyranny comes when most people are willing to lie to stick with the approved narrative. 2. It only takes a very few brave souls who tell the truth to save a society..
those are ancient points
Revelations ! Thought that was common knowledge.
I dont know about the last one. Usually in the past, few brave ones had their heads on a guillotine.
the few brave souls are usually the ones that we assassinate, while we let the scumbags just keep on going.
@@VOX_Games right it takes a lot to stick out your head from the herd and when you do that you got picked by the predator so people keep their damn heads low ,,,, but not always ,see it depends on the circumstance , the quality of that few braves and their organization and wit ,
for exemple here in Algeria back in the 1950s our revolution was led by only thousands of people from middle class but who were cultivated and brave and strategic , they picked a celebration night when there were fireworks and when France soldiers where distracted , to launch the operation so the loud sound would camouflage the sound of their bullets signals , and France soldiers were dispersed and disarmed , and they also used the rocky rugged high mountains with lots of vegetations of the barbaric amazigh regions as places to hide for they knew em by heart while France soldiers struggled to find their ways and usually end up trapped in somewhere and disarmed , and thats how power balance distabilised
THANK YOU BILL M. for letting Dr. Jordan Peterson speak out all this thoughts without interrupting and having honest civil discourse between the two of you. BEST EPISODE YET IMO!
@maruiacancer6 please research about fasting to cure cancer
Quacks arent Doctors.
Yeah, the “excuse me I’m talking” line Bill had out of nowhere at one point was jarring and a bit hypocritical given his past conversations. Otherwise a very enjoyable episode.
This was pure garbage and unwatchable
This is how it's supposed to be. Two people who respect eachother even though the polarized media/sm want's to sadle them on opposite horses. The world isn't binary.
Jordan Peterson is a Brilliant guy. Articulates things Perfectly. Very Refreshing. Great Conversation.
It's amazing, people having different opinions and still treating each other with respect and letting the other side have their say as well.
I’ve missed this jordan Peterson. Clear, concise, and not angry.
The way he's been treated he has had good reason to be angry.
@@deanog2577 He honestly should be treated much, much worse. He is a disease.
@@deanog2577 The reason you know his name is because he lied about Canadian Bill C-16:. Peterson became famous because he said the legislation made individuals who refused to use specific gender pronouns could face jail time as a consequence. That was obviously a lie. Use a little critical thinking. I'm not angry about him, but why is he angry?
@@deanog2577factos
Agree. I understood his frustration, but for a while, no matter how hard you dug you couldn't find a video of him spreading positive advice.
Was entirely furrowed-brow rants at the camera.
This is a breath of fresh air!
Hearing Petterson mention that he watches Trailer Park Boys made my whole day 👌🏼
Perhaps the most intriguing conversation with Mr. Peterson, for quite a number of reasons, to me.
Thank you, Mr. Maher. Thank you, Mr. Peterson.
May GOD bless you both.
Greetings form Germany.
Ruben
You can always tell when Bill likes the conversation. This interview went almost 2 hours, most of the ones I've seen lately were about an hour or a hair more.
As someone who had a son when I was 19, I was extremely underprepared to raise my son in regards to dealing with his childhood experiences. The discussion here about raising children, as well as Dr. Peterson's chapter 'Rule 5: Do Not Let Your Children Do Anything That Makes You Dislike Them' have really helped open my eyes on what I may have done sub-optimally in raising him. I would love for Dr. Peterson to put out a book on raising children, highlighting key stages of development and how best to curb behaviors before they spiral into something much worse at a later age.
Amen!
I’m raising my last kid and I wish I had this guy on speed dial with the weird modern social issues we are facing.
So true. 19 is so young. My step daughter is 19. I couldn’t imagine her having a child right now. She can barely take care of herself and lives like she is invincible. Reminds me of myself at that age. I thank God I am still here.
If I may give a suggestion: Healing your Emotional Self - A Powerful Program to Help you Raise your Self-Esteem, Quiet your Inner by Beverly Engel is a very good book. It helped me heal childhood trauma. I was raised by a single mother who was emotionally abussive and I found my father death from a heart attack when I was 8. He was 36. So I had a interesting childhood to say the least. I also found my grandma hanging from a rope.
@@a1pwn
OMG I'm so sorry that happened to young you.
@@Earthbound369 thank you fir your compassion. I am good now. But it sure took some work
I like how Bill laughs freely
He actually makes Jordan the most comfortable I've ever seen him...
Love this episode
At one point he even smiled
Well for once he wasnt constantly being under attack so it's always more pleasant to discuss with someone that doesnt want to rip your neck off just for their divergent opinions. I don't really like Maher personaly, for many reasons, but you can see that his age allows him to be more relax and chill toward decent human conversations, compared to all these hag Peterson had to face off in interviews that were already wired to undermine his person and expertise. I'm clearly not a 100% behind Peterson's views, some things regarding him doesn't fit my personal moral compass, but at least he speaks common sense most of the time.
@@JeffreyBezeau so what you're saying is....
JP is such a delightful person. Im right there with him on marriage and how special it is to have someone that no matter how long, you still just adore every aspect of the woman you were blessed to marry. Marriage, if done the right way truly is an amazing blessing.
Jordan Is MY HERO HE RULES!
This man has helped me continue my war against benzodiazepines. I have kicked every drug under the sun, but getting off benzos has easily been the hardest thing I have ever done and probably ever will. God bless Peterson for being one of the few to bring it to light.
Good for you! I'm trying to get off of methadone I'm down to 35 mgs which is low for a methadone patient, but still equivalent to like 350mgs of morphene a day. I have a hard road ahead of me still and hearing stuff like this keeps me motivated
I have been struggling w benzos too, hang in there. life is good.
@@Jsmitt716 Have you ever been offered subs? Not that either are good, but I've known people who have done both. Methadone seems to be harder on the body.
@@alvalankerofficial I had a friend who went to jail addicted to benzos, heroin, and was shooting cocaine.
They made him go cold turkey from all 3, but the benzos was the real problem. He was a HEAVY user multiple bars daily. He had seizures, and he didn't recognize his parents. His mother would call me crying hysterically saying "I don't think he's ever coming back. He's completely gone." It was horrible.
He got through it though, and he came out 3 or 4 months later looking like a full person again.
But he couldn't stay away from it, and he's back on Xanax & methadone prescribed both.
Even then he sometimes tries to use heroin, and has overdosed at least 9 or 10 times.
I don't know how to help him. We started using drugs when we were like 15, and it's been his whole life.
I never got on heroin, but I was addicted to oxy. I'm stuck on subs now which sucks, but it has allowed me to have a regular life where I don't even consider going back to oxy or dope at all.
If you don't know there is a forum called benzo buddies and some of the withdrawal reports are shocking. Benzos are clearly the most addictive drug and you can just fall into addiction without even realising it.
I absolutely love this! Jordan is wearing a three-piece suit, citing scientific research, asking deep question while Bill is smoking, drinking, swearing and making jokes lol. Absolutely hilarious, could watch it all day. So happy to have discovered these two, both by themselves and together. And what an incredible man Jordan Peterson is. The stories about his wife and their relationship are simply adorable, you really can't make it up. Thank you for this amazing conversation!
I am pretty sure that the best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right and free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future. [Do you agree?]
@@psychcowboy1 I have no idea what the fuck you just spouted. Gotta be some copy-pasting issues.
Orbanist Nazi State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
JBPeterson: My message to the Hungarians is do not rebel against your Prime Minister. I know that one of the things your PM is trying to reinstitute the metaphysical foundations of Hungarian culture. He might be lucky and succeed.
Another guest of Viktor Orbán in the Führer-Castle, Father Jim Blount: I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your Prime Minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor.
He is very deep
@@freedomfreedom9523 JP said something deep? What?
I could listen to these two everyday.
One of, if not THE best interviews Bill has done. The honesty, on both sides, is key, I think….and the stories from college days had me rolling.👍
Glad to see who Bill Maher really is. As a centrist, who is a big fan of Jordan Peterson and the deep insights he’s shared in his career, I am definitely here for this conversation and respect Bill more than ever.
Classic liberals and conservatives are pretty close to centrist as it is.. Not anymore though.
It’s the long form conversation that lets that show. On his 30 minute show he has to push an agenda the whole time just to keep the show on track.
@@_Jake.From.Statefarm_Don't give up hope just yet. We're still here, and there's quite a few in the younger generations
@@btkenobi2 The flood gate of far left and rightwingers has already been opened. I'm just afraid we are now the minority. "Owning" the other side is much more important to everyone now.
We are watching bill die.
I feel so privilege to be alive in the same time as Jordan Peterson. He is the modern equivalent to an ancient greek philosopher.
I think, as I believe you do, that he will be known for ages
He s a philosopher; which is lacking in Post -Modern era!
what
😂😂😂😂 we’re in trouble morally then
Peterson is a fakelosopher.
This was such a wonderful conversation. Glad I took the time to listen to it. Thanks to both of these gentlemen. 🤝
Well done, this is a beautiful display of respectfully sharing knowledge with out allowing personal emotions to dictate the story. I want to highlight this Bill, despite your emotions and view point on the Bible, your respect for Jordan allowed for information to be shared and reflected on. Jordon, your insight to peoples responses and positioning yourself with such skill when sharing is amazing to watch. I have watched so many debates on different topics and its sad that the goal of the debate is seen as a competition of who's best rather then growing in collaboration :)
Never been more excited for a Club Random episode and I wasn't a bit disappointed, it even went better than I expected.
Jordan Peterson even broke Bill's wall a bit. Bill went from laughing at the Sodom and Gomorrah analogy to being mind-blown. Peterson has a way of breaking down archetypes and making them so relatable to the present day.
Not sure it's an analogy. Idk... I watch the archaeological TH-cam videos on Sodom and Gomorrah - the cities of the plains near the Dead Sea in Israel. There are dozens of them. They will make you think
@@Graacie111 I'm not saying the story itself is an analogy. I mean Jordan Peterson used it in this context as one. Like, 'forget about the struggle of how factual this is, or isn't, and use it in this way'. That's where I'm coming from.
The reason why Jordan Peterson always breaks down everything into the tidy bits of understanding, is because he goes out of his way to portray himself in such behavior.
We fail to understand that the only way you or I can understand how people function as a collective and individual, is analyzing our own conducts and behaviors in life and owning such episodes, so that we don’t get stuck in them.
We all have behaved in one moment or another, or for a day or two, in any of the personality traits he described…unfortunately not everybody is willing to break their own ego and humble themselves to accept it, express it, and deal with it, like he says, for so many people it’s just easier to stay that way and that’s when they become definitely one of those archetypes.
@@Ch7oma I hear ya, I never, EVER would've thought I'd see Bill take someone's interpretation of a Biblical story seriously, but it's right in front of us here. I watched the entire series of Peterson breaking down the stories of Genesis several years ago, and I don't really care how right he got the message from the original authors, because there's a whole array of lessons/morals-of-the-story/etc that he describes which are perfectly applicable to anyone living in the 21st century
Yes! It's nice to see the bible studied like the mythology that it is, rather than like the nut job evangelicals who take it literally.
Thank you Jordan for being brave enough to say out loud what we all wish we could.
We all need to be more like Jordan. Step by step, we can do it.
"We all" who's this hypothetical "we"? How about just being your best selves and forget about the cult leader?
He said that it´s not about being brave. He just sees that if he doesn´t say what he has to say, something worse will come.
Most Americans CRAVE leaders. They don't know how to function without a set of directions. And by most, I mean the majority. @@stephaniebarron52
@@spencersharpSo Brave. So Smart.
Great talk ..great to listen to! Looking fwd to the live!
Wow...one of the best podcasts. Both legends
Thanks Bill, for inviting this colossal mind for a chat like this. Had a blast watching it.
JBP has a fine mind. By comparison, Maher is thoroughly pedestrian
@@friarnewborg9213Man, give Bill credit. He focuses on what’s important, not the Bs, and talks to and engages every type of person, which is totally admirable and exactly what we need in 2023.
@@joen8529 That's pretty much why he's probably the only host I've been watching consistently for over 20 years, and now getting to go back through the PI era via youtube. Certainly have things I'd say we'd disagree on, and much moreso with some of the guests over the years, but it's good to hear differing views... and getting to be a rare thing.
@@joen8529 : actually, I liked the way he handled himself in virtually the whole interview. And there were moments where I felt some real sympathy for Maher. First time I have experienced that in listening to him.
how can you take Bill Maher seriously? Look at his shirt!!!
This is a great example how 2 individuals with various differences and strong opinions can sit have a long form discussion. You get to see how much similarities in ideas there can be amongst each other. Well played!
Now if Bill can pull his head out of his ass about Trump.
name 4 differences
Yes, there is far more overlap between the left and the right than we would care to admit.
@@samgradyfilm JP believes in God, doesn't smoke weed, and he's a conservative that's 3
JP is also anti-pornography, and pro-marriage, just to name a few more differencss between him and Maher.
Great interview. I really enjoyed listening. Thank you!
I would (almost) listen to Jordan discuss the phone book, then to have Bill involved, who seems to have taken a much more careful view of the woke progressive situation, makes for a very interesting discussion. Thank you.