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there should not even be a point in discussion that Rappa might be better than Firefly, it is literally one of the weakest paths & elements vs the strongest , Erudition Imaginary vs Destruction Fire, the only game mode where she is probably going to be better is pure fiction, imaginary break doesn't do any dmg it just imprisons + Firefly implants Fire weakness to every enemy you want. I can clear Pure Fiction just fine with my E0 Firefly. Literally able to clear any game mode just by using the Firefly team.
I played Boothill without any physical mate, and Boothill is fine (usually you would see Boothill/Bronya/Ruan Mei/Gallagher and he is fine). Rappa will be fine too without weakness implant and with no imaginary partner.
I really like Firefly and Rappa, but I think firefly’s better meta wise. Rappas supercool tho and her personality is so silly lol, I loved when she called Herta a twirling ninja
If you also get fugue and use it with your rappa, you don’t need to worry about breaking your enemy as it ignores toughness which is huge for rappa. So for those complaining about no weakness implant, she won’t need it with fugue. Also if the purple exotoughnessbar thiny on the new moc enemies is permanent, u can get 10 points of rappa from each weakness break that each one gives a 50% damage multiplier which can max out to 500%
Firefly has a higher floor but a lower ceiling while rappa doesnt quite reach the same floor but her ceiling can skyrocket miles past firefly's depending on allies, enemy elements, and how often you can break between enhanced basics. With firefly you can onky do so mucj
That is a textbook written fact, not a contextual fact. Better as in ease of use I strongly agree, but rappa being absolute better when imaginary weakness present + other teammates can break for her makes her in a similar or slightly lower stance than FF in the criteria of non imaginary weak scenario
@@iamagod6013 the better question that doesn't include 'if' would be how many boss enemies out there that doesn't have either fire or imaginary weaknesses?
Thank you for being brave enough to say you don't need Rappa. Many content creators are so afraid to hurt certain characters' fan. Btw, what's your opinion on the Fate (Acher) x HSR collaboration? Do you think Archer is gonna be a new character? Broken character? Or is he gonna be the Alloy of HSR?
no lah, depend how u use, rappa now helping me finish any event, expecially forgotten hall or apo...her build similar to ff the only problem their formation similar and thats why people say its problem, but when tingyun fugue came everythings gonna be okay. u can build similar formation with different element
First one :D I love both their designs but I don’t have the right supports. I’m saving for Sunday and Tingyun so yeah. I still can’t wait for all the content you’ll be putting out on her! :)
I quit on version 2.4 (might come back) so I don't know Rappa's personality but liked firefly quite a bit.But I still think I might go for Rappa because pink hair (I love pink hair)
I have E1 Rappa with signature weapon, and she destroys the Past Present and Eternal Show in MOC really fast. She helped me get 36 stars. Rappa also destroyed the Sunday boss in Apoc Shadow, again helped me get 36 Stars there, beat him up like that banana robot (lol). She did not do well in Pure Fiction, I'm at 0 cycle by the time I got to Bronya boss...
From the leaks that has been going on lately, she’ll have a permanent superbreak. If that’s true, there’s no reason in going for rappa. And considering fugue and Sunday are rolling around same update, I doubt both support break.
I don’t have a break unit but have all the supports for said break team built up 😭 I’m picking up Rappa as my first break dps cuz I love her design so so much. I do have jade but I do want to have a premium team for each side just cuz. I’m glad you emphasize that you arent calling her trash, I don’t think she will be trash but I do feel she’ll definitely be good in every mode. I also have been playing since day 1 and own both feixiao and Acheron teams so i definitely feel very comfortable spending a bit for my rapping ninja
me with argenti, jade, himeko, and herta still pulling rappa bc shes cute and will slay even more after fugue releases :3 rappa sweeps this AS sunday was a JOKE
I'm only pulling Rappa because of her outfit and midriff, but I'm just a guy that plays Honkai Star Rail and really like girls' midriffs so take my preferences with a grain of salt
I can perfectly clear Pure Fiction with FireFly. Though my Firefly is E2. This is with Fugue and Lingsha on the team. Passes on Rappa and best move I have done.
I wonder if you can put Firefly & Rappa on same team. I currently don't have Ruan Mei and wondering if she could be a temporary semi-dps / breaker cuz she breaks toughness really hard, to compensate for the lack of ruan mei buffs, and she is sp neutral i think
I dont have firefly so i think im gonna go for rappa. The current PF is what i had the most trouble with (i cleared MoC easily) so I think its fine to go for rappa as it seems shes made for PF.
"Why do you think that there's no limited 5 star in the second half of 2.6, this is obviously the calm before the storm" I don't think this has anything to do with Rappa or a calm before a storm. If it was a calm before a storm it would be Ratio running there or something, not Acheron, the reason there isn't a new character is solely to do with Acheron being as much bait for people as any new character would be. Acheron herself is a storm for a lot of peoples passes >.>
I have a question. In terms of a Super Break team, I already have Ruan Mei, E6 HMC and E6 Gallagher. I don't have Firefly and Boothill, and in terms of PF, I already have Himeko, E6 Herta and Jade. For those of you that have Firefly and/or Rappa, do you think I should pull for Rappa or should I skip and pull for Firefly if she has a rerun in the future?
@@Cobalt-OperaUpdate: I did pull for Rappa's banner, and unfortunately, I lost the 50/50 to Yanqing. Now that Firefly is gonna have her rerun soon, so yeah, I think I'm gonna pull for her.
@@celestinecore I also lost 50/50 to Rappa but I stopped pulling for her after a while and started saving 45 pulls and estimated to be atleast near 60 pulls next update for Firefly's E2
My truely opnion Rappa not bad but.... Meh... I think Firefly much better as break dps & even in lore wise , i mean we have firefly a cute waifo who suffer much by Being a soldier without joying The life and losting ALL by Swam , but she How a girl who Just want be a normal waifo girl with her best friend ( and maybe Future husband/wife) trailbreazer and well.... Rappa we have a DJ ninja.... I mean i think The ideia Kinda idiotic in The way theys did ,
I pull lingsha a few days ago and i have ruan mei, but i really don't have any dps for the break team except that 4 star that has the dagger and is a quantum type but i am wondering what should i go for because i like rappa but i want firefly so which one would be good and plus i am going for fugue banner too btw i am a F2P
For those who have firefly e1 or e2 like alot of ppl I saw, I would definitely say rappa isn’t necessarily needed. I have read rappa’s e1 and e2 and they just don’t look as good. Especially the e2.
god Rappa's haters are all just "omg Firefly is better" "L no weakness implant" just let us Rappa fans enjoy our character. Remember that Firefly sucks too without HMC. Don't even get me started on Sunday simps doing that to every character not just Rappa. Nobody except u cares for him, his arc sucks and he's a shit villain.
i do think its weird to call rappa bad; because i don’t think she’s bad, she’s a good character HMC is free, so i wouldn’t draw that as the flaw; ruan mei however? FF is basically tied to her, who is a limited 5* i think they both hold merit, even if FF is better. rappa is a liiiiiittle overhated rn
@@Juice-chan I swear Rappa getting the Yoimiya treatment just Instead of Raiden's sword riders it's Saturday's chicken wing glazers. Same people also don't bat an eye about how Acheron needs Pela (who u could get) but also u need at least SW or Jiaoqiu too who are limited.
Bro you’re the only one seeing these posts, lol. Everyone isn’t even talking about her, everyone’s talking about the reruns. She’s not that important 😭
Rappa is like Herta, especially designed for PF. Kinda sucks ngl, i hope Tingyun fix her (somehow, maybe like make Superbreak deals DoT with big pp dmg and small pp damage the next)
@@TheRoleplayer40k isn't her gameplay literally the same as Firefly tho ? They're both : skill > ult > enhanced attacks > repeat.. i personally don't see how she's more "lame" tbh
@@Cobalt-Opera that's still doesn't change the gameplay for the most part. Rappa also has features Firefly doesn't like : - extra turn that allows her to act twice in a row (like Seele's resurgence). - buffs the whole teams' dps by applying 10% break damage vulnerability to broken ennemies. - she benefit much more from exo-toughness compared to Firefly, so she will scale better with the future superbreak support
Firefly way of thinking.. oh it has different element, it's almost useless, everything has to be fire! Boothill and Rappa way of thinking.. If you support, you support. Anyway, I am going to get Rappa.
firefly is cuter... did i cook or set the kitchen ablaze? :'D
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there should not even be a point in discussion that Rappa might be better than Firefly, it is literally one of the weakest paths & elements vs the strongest , Erudition Imaginary vs Destruction Fire, the only game mode where she is probably going to be better is pure fiction, imaginary break doesn't do any dmg it just imprisons + Firefly implants Fire weakness to every enemy you want. I can clear Pure Fiction just fine with my E0 Firefly. Literally able to clear any game mode just by using the Firefly team.
Rappa called Herta _"twirling ninja"_ for that alone she's worth pulling.
kuru kuru ninja
@@Juice-chan Lol
@@Juice-chan now I want to listen to the Japanese livestream just to hear that.
@@Juice-chan agerune
The strongest breaker of today vs the strongest breaker of yesterday
the break-offs
Lack of weakness implant is a big deal for rappa.
in MOC/AS definitely
i think its fine in PF
makes me only want to pull for dps that has weakness implant
I played Boothill without any physical mate, and Boothill is fine (usually you would see Boothill/Bronya/Ruan Mei/Gallagher and he is fine).
Rappa will be fine too without weakness implant and with no imaginary partner.
@@Sang_Akrobatis Boothill has weakness implant on his ult and technique. So not even the same.
@@andrewhaydock5557 I bet you don't play Boothill.
If she had an Implant weakness Imagine how good she was with Harmony MC, still pulling for her tho i love her design and i lost 50/50 on FF
I really like Firefly and Rappa, but I think firefly’s better meta wise. Rappas supercool tho and her personality is so silly lol, I loved when she called Herta a twirling ninja
ye :D i like both a lot, rappa’s colourful attacks are sick
i personally prefer firefly as a character, but both picks are based
If herta is twirling ninja, rappa is splatoon ninja.
If you also get fugue and use it with your rappa, you don’t need to worry about breaking your enemy as it ignores toughness which is huge for rappa. So for those complaining about no weakness implant, she won’t need it with fugue. Also if the purple exotoughnessbar thiny on the new moc enemies is permanent, u can get 10 points of rappa from each weakness break that each one gives a 50% damage multiplier which can max out to 500%
Firefly has a higher floor but a lower ceiling while rappa doesnt quite reach the same floor but her ceiling can skyrocket miles past firefly's depending on allies, enemy elements, and how often you can break between enhanced basics. With firefly you can onky do so mucj
Boothill: "Eats bullets and watches" cheering for Rappa
Staying with firefly because she and her 2nd best support (RUAN MEI) both mugged me of my birthday money and also cool mecha go brrrrr
FF is better overall for everything in the game. Rappa is only better if there is imaginary weakness. This is a fact.
That is a textbook written fact, not a contextual fact.
Better as in ease of use I strongly agree, but rappa being absolute better when imaginary weakness present + other teammates can break for her makes her in a similar or slightly lower stance than FF in the criteria of non imaginary weak scenario
@@Galariel what if the enemy is not weak to both fire and imaginary?
@@iamagod6013 You would use another dps....
@@iamagod6013 the better question that doesn't include 'if' would be how many boss enemies out there that doesn't have either fire or imaginary weaknesses?
Thank you for being brave enough to say you don't need Rappa. Many content creators are so afraid to hurt certain characters' fan. Btw, what's your opinion on the Fate (Acher) x HSR collaboration? Do you think Archer is gonna be a new character? Broken character? Or is he gonna be the Alloy of HSR?
no lah, depend how u use, rappa now helping me finish any event, expecially forgotten hall or apo...her build similar to ff the only problem their formation similar and thats why people say its problem, but when tingyun fugue came everythings gonna be okay. u can build similar formation with different element
Don't sleep on Rappa.
I’m not sleeping i am slumbering
If you’re a dreamer, Rappa probably has the biggest potential out of all 3 break dps as it stands.
First one :D I love both their designs but I don’t have the right supports. I’m saving for Sunday and Tingyun so yeah. I still can’t wait for all the content you’ll be putting out on her! :)
good luck on those two! i myself cannot WAIT for sunday bro
really happy to hear that! ❤️ looking forward to seeing you there then :D
@@Juice-chan Thanks! I love your videos and all the names you give the characters. 😊
No one can replace the queen firefly, ill fight yall😭🙏
i'm with you soldier
Leaks say otherwise
@@Thedoorway123 yea no
@Thedoorway123 no they don't
@@2k3d lol FF copers can't open their eyes 🤣
I quit on version 2.4 (might come back)
so I don't know Rappa's personality but liked firefly quite a bit.But I still think I might go for Rappa because pink hair (I love pink hair)
I have E1 Rappa with signature weapon, and she destroys the Past Present and Eternal Show in MOC really fast. She helped me get 36 stars. Rappa also destroyed the Sunday boss in Apoc Shadow, again helped me get 36 Stars there, beat him up like that banana robot (lol). She did not do well in Pure Fiction, I'm at 0 cycle by the time I got to Bronya boss...
Let’s be real Firefly’s only peak cuz of Harmony MC. The moment he blazes his trails inside Rappa, she’ll become the new top tier
Blazes his trails inside rappa?😭
Ahhhhh. Firefly would totally turn him to ashes if he did that to rappa.
He’s about to blazeeee!
INSANE WORDING
AAYYYYOOOOOO
if tingyun will be break support, i'm seeing a pattern of firefly whole team is going to be fire element.
From the leaks that has been going on lately, she’ll have a permanent superbreak. If that’s true, there’s no reason in going for rappa. And considering fugue and Sunday are rolling around same update, I doubt both support break.
I don’t have a break unit but have all the supports for said break team built up 😭 I’m picking up Rappa as my first break dps cuz I love her design so so much. I do have jade but I do want to have a premium team for each side just cuz. I’m glad you emphasize that you arent calling her trash, I don’t think she will be trash but I do feel she’ll definitely be good in every mode. I also have been playing since day 1 and own both feixiao and Acheron teams so i definitely feel very comfortable spending a bit for my rapping ninja
me with argenti, jade, himeko, and herta still pulling rappa bc shes cute and will slay even more after fugue releases :3
rappa sweeps this AS sunday was a JOKE
Rappa seems too niche at the moment so I’ll stick w/ my Firefly
I'm gonna fit boothill, firefly, rappa into a single team.
she's the yoimiya of HSR, you hate to see it
Firefly and Lingsha is erudition enough. Besides she hasn't had any story impact yet.
I'm only pulling Rappa because of her outfit and midriff, but I'm just a guy that plays Honkai Star Rail and really like girls' midriffs so take my preferences with a grain of salt
My guy 🤝🤝🤝
A rare breed
I can perfectly clear Pure Fiction with FireFly. Though my Firefly is E2. This is with Fugue and Lingsha on the team. Passes on Rappa and best move I have done.
I wonder if you can put Firefly & Rappa on same team. I currently don't have Ruan Mei and wondering if she could be a temporary semi-dps / breaker cuz she breaks toughness really hard, to compensate for the lack of ruan mei buffs, and she is sp neutral i think
Me being in the same situation 😭
I dont have firefly so i think im gonna go for rappa. The current PF is what i had the most trouble with (i cleared MoC easily) so I think its fine to go for rappa as it seems shes made for PF.
Fugue who is going to be a superbreak support is going to be fire also so FF value is going to be much higher
And from what I’m seeing, Sunday will support crit and such, soo rappa’s only support would be HMC currently. FF would have almost a whole team
@@sabre4382Seriously, ff's value'll skyrocket
Well, this aged like fine milk lmao.
@@mroxkral7276 True. Lmao
"Why do you think that there's no limited 5 star in the second half of 2.6, this is obviously the calm before the storm" I don't think this has anything to do with Rappa or a calm before a storm. If it was a calm before a storm it would be Ratio running there or something, not Acheron, the reason there isn't a new character is solely to do with Acheron being as much bait for people as any new character would be. Acheron herself is a storm for a lot of peoples passes >.>
I think i should get Parrapa after i get Forgor and Monday
I have a question. In terms of a Super Break team, I already have Ruan Mei, E6 HMC and E6 Gallagher. I don't have Firefly and Boothill, and in terms of PF, I already have Himeko, E6 Herta and Jade. For those of you that have Firefly and/or Rappa, do you think I should pull for Rappa or should I skip and pull for Firefly if she has a rerun in the future?
Rappa is good for now but it's not recommended to continue pulling if you keep losing 50/50
@@Cobalt-OperaUpdate: I did pull for Rappa's banner, and unfortunately, I lost the 50/50 to Yanqing. Now that Firefly is gonna have her rerun soon, so yeah, I think I'm gonna pull for her.
@@celestinecore I also lost 50/50 to Rappa but I stopped pulling for her after a while and started saving 45 pulls and estimated to be atleast near 60 pulls next update for Firefly's E2
rappa this firefly that y'all just use a boothill fr
Honestly for me I would skip both, maybe I will get rappa in the future if I changed my mind but now she’s a skip
rappa has aura
ninja aura
My truely opnion Rappa not bad but.... Meh... I think Firefly much better as break dps & even in lore wise , i mean we have firefly a cute waifo who suffer much by Being a soldier without joying The life and losting ALL by Swam , but she How a girl who Just want be a normal waifo girl with her best friend ( and maybe Future husband/wife) trailbreazer and well.... Rappa we have a DJ ninja.... I mean i think The ideia Kinda idiotic in The way theys did ,
Why are u setting up my girl rappa like that xD??
Skippa
I’m still saving up for Tingyun (the 5 star variant, not Phantylia) and I already have E2 Firefly. So I have to skip Rappa and Sunday for Tingyun.
She got the yoimiya treatment
Why pick one when you can have 2 supa break team as your main team 😂
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I pull lingsha a few days ago and i have ruan mei, but i really don't have any dps for the break team except that 4 star that has the dagger and is a quantum type but i am wondering what should i go for because i like rappa but i want firefly so which one would be good and plus i am going for fugue banner too btw i am a F2P
For those who have firefly e1 or e2 like alot of ppl I saw, I would definitely say rappa isn’t necessarily needed. I have read rappa’s e1 and e2 and they just don’t look as good. Especially the e2.
god Rappa's haters are all just "omg Firefly is better" "L no weakness implant" just let us Rappa fans enjoy our character. Remember that Firefly sucks too without HMC.
Don't even get me started on Sunday simps doing that to every character not just Rappa. Nobody except u cares for him, his arc sucks and he's a shit villain.
i do think its weird to call rappa bad; because i don’t think she’s bad, she’s a good character
HMC is free, so i wouldn’t draw that as the flaw; ruan mei however? FF is basically tied to her, who is a limited 5*
i think they both hold merit, even if FF is better. rappa is a liiiiiittle overhated rn
@@Juice-chan I swear Rappa getting the Yoimiya treatment just Instead of Raiden's sword riders it's Saturday's chicken wing glazers.
Same people also don't bat an eye about how Acheron needs Pela (who u could get) but also u need at least SW or Jiaoqiu too who are limited.
Bro you’re the only one seeing these posts, lol. Everyone isn’t even talking about her, everyone’s talking about the reruns. She’s not that important 😭
@@DanHengs_Property not saying she's a must pull. And no im not the only seeing them, Ig u just don't. And im just saying she's overhated
She's not bad just bad banner placement she needs her lightcone really bad though she's one of those characters
Me who has E2 fire fly 👀👀
Rappa is like Herta, especially designed for PF. Kinda sucks ngl, i hope Tingyun fix her (somehow, maybe like make Superbreak deals DoT with big pp dmg and small pp damage the next)
break dps that cant impant... yeah.. ill stick to firefly
Here me and having roll another back to back summon soon enough painge but im preparing
Wow, Rappa Looks so cool and powerful 😮
Yeah im skipping
😂
rappa works really well on PF and fine in AS but performs poorly on MoC, whereas firefly is perfect for both MoC and AS and is still decent for PF
rappa seems like she’ll be aight in MOC but generally agree
@@Juice-chan if its full of imaginary weak enemies then yea
Juice I love youuu❤
Is Hoyo going in a new direction with their games. Gameplay of Rappa looks like she'd fit in Natlan. Maybe they're targeting the Tiktok crowd?
Her gameplay looks quite lame to me as well as this whole ‘see everyone as a ninja’
Sounds like she needs to be committed
@@TheRoleplayer40k isn't her gameplay literally the same as Firefly tho ?
They're both : skill > ult > enhanced attacks > repeat.. i personally don't see how she's more "lame" tbh
They been had the TikTok crowd in a chokehold (the nevuellete (I can’t spell ) trend for example )
@@lamsyy3931 Firefly has more sustain and speed advantage
@@Cobalt-Opera that's still doesn't change the gameplay for the most part. Rappa also has features Firefly doesn't like :
- extra turn that allows her to act twice in a row (like Seele's resurgence).
- buffs the whole teams' dps by applying 10% break damage vulnerability to broken ennemies.
- she benefit much more from exo-toughness compared to Firefly, so she will scale better with the future superbreak support
Stupid question rappa is like argenti for jingliu just a filler character that wont last long also anyone is good to break teams
Firefly for me xd
firefly is cuter... did i cook or set the kitchen ablaze? :'D
>.< no
Fugue is going to buff her heavily bet 😏
It seem more geared towards FF
like it or not anything that will buff BH or Rappa will buff FF vice versa, especially if its fire.
Ngl i use both
Firefly way of thinking.. oh it has different element, it's almost useless, everything has to be fire!
Boothill and Rappa way of thinking.. If you support, you support.
Anyway, I am going to get Rappa.
Firefly also ignores weaknesses of adjacent enemies
Rappa is better❤❤❤❤❤❤
fuguway 😭
obviously she is lol
> AS is all about breaking enemies.
> Current AS has bosses with bar lock on both sides.
Not really accurate to say AS is a break mode any more.
Yes
Can’t finish the video, can’t stand your exaggerating voice.