Dan. Your wife adds life to your otherwise very technical reviews. I say this as a compliment, not criticism. I suggest you keep her involved as much as possible.
Who's picking on up? Check out the description to download full resolution RAW + JPEG files as well as a 4k HQ video file including 4k, slow motion, & low light video!
Dan great video! Keep up the great work. - I've got one on preorder. Still torn on making the switch from current Fuji setup to this a7riii. For someone who mainly uses camera for Travel, Landscapes, Everyday Documentary and doing more video lately... do you think it's worth making the switch??? Thanks in advance!
@snapclik Thanks! Probably skip the small grip then. It's not the greatest anyway because you lose the tripod socket and can't remove a battery so I'd just get the grip. I used the camera for 3 days without the battery grip and I even had one with me! Just wanted to be smaller/lighter because we were traveling so I never ended up even using it so I'm sure you will be fine until you get the grip. You will want it if you are hand holding a 70-200 all day but for normal use it's fine without it.
I just ordered one of these and i'm excited about having my first camera with an evf. I made a rookie mistake last week while shooting wildlife with my canon sl2 where I took pictures through the viewfinder only to find out later that I forgot to adjust the settings and came out with dark images. So having an evf that will show me exactly what the pictures will look like before i even press the shutter will be tremendously helpful
@@rymdskrotet it is definitely a great camera for the money. The autofocus isn't the greatest compared to other cameras on the market but for an all around professional grade shooter you can't go wrong with this camera. I've been getting great images so far and I'm very happy with it
I just got my a7r mark3 as upgrade to my old Sony a77. I am absolutely blown away with low light performance. Like wow. This camera is amazing. I am totally sold on mirrorless now. Never going back to DSLR
Can not understand why sony removed the apps feature from this camera.I use the time lapse app in the a7r2 a lot and have spent a lot of money buying all the other apps.Will not be buying this camera for that reason.
Finally someone who isn't afraid to mention some of the issues/challenges it still faces. Thank you for the honest review. Sounds like Sony has a winner.
Your best review yet - and you and your wife are now the #1 photo/video expert couple. Were you using the 70-200 f4 or 2.8 in some of your shots? Which of these two lenses would you recommend.
Thanks Charles!!! Really appreciate it. We used the 70-200 f2.8 GM and the 24-70 f2.8 GM almost exclusively. I don't use the F4 much because we shoot weddings which pretty much demands F2.8 glass. It's a great lens and crazy sharp but also unbelievably expensive. If you don't absolutely need F2.8, the F4 is on an awesome sale right now: bhpho.to/2iaMZ9T so I would be more likely to pick that up and maybe add the Sony 85mm F1.8 for when you need the wider aperture which is also on sale: bhpho.to/2hPVmaO . You could do both those and still save around $700 vs getting the 70-200 F2.8 GM
I've played around with the Sony a7RIII and I found it to be on the smaller size and not fully weather hardened. I'm likely going for the Nikon D850 that is battle weatherproofed and built strong like the famed Nikon F3 and F4's if you remember those. By the way, I'm not a Nikon focused person. I own various camera manufacturers. I require the specialized lenses and other attachments of the multi-faceted Nikon line. Also, if you haven't checked out the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 ART DG HSM Lens (a lens of the year contender) for the Nikon, Canon and Sigma line you should at least read about it. The shot count per battery charge is an amazing 5100 + with battery grip. It does set you back 1000.00 but you get a vertical grip with control buttons, 9FPS and excellent balance. The 45.7 megapixels provides outstanding resolution. However, its not for everyone when you consider the size and weight. For street/doc photography you can't go wrong with the high res/dynamic range of the smaller Fuji line. And for video the top Panasonic GH5 is in a league of its own. If you want the best you can get a Hasselblad but we can't have everything. I've found that you need certain cameras for specialized needs. The idea that one camera fits all is wishful thinking. Sony has done a great job with this camera but with so many great cameras on the market, the real differntiation is the person behind it.
On this Sony A7r III 3 an important thing is missing which is the color inversion or negative. Very useful for reproducing color or black and white negatives. Many photographers have these negatives in stock and could digitize them. I hope this message reaches Mr. Sony's ears.
Great review. I wish Sony would listen to the pros, which might care about weight but much less about size. GH5 is a great example of how you should make a camera. It's lite and very comfortable to use. Well, maybe Sony a7riv?
+Soumendra Jena yeah, I'm going to try to throw a couple 4k files in a folder tonight along with some original raw files. Link will be in the description. 4k video seems great with a bit more detail using S35 due to the oversampling. If you need a stills camera that can shoot video, there is absolutely nothing better than the a7riii. I still found some interesting color shifts though and obviously no 10 bit is a bummer especially if you shoot log. Screen is also not as bright as I would like
Mr. Dan the Man I think you would have the hottest views on youtube if you took the A7r lll and the Sigma mc-11 adapter to a lens rental place. And you tried every lens possible all in one video. Testing focus speed and eye focus. Like every Canon, Sigma, and Tamron lens at the rental place. And any other Canon mount company. Especially the original Sigma 50 and 85 f1.4 lenses. And the first Tamron 24/70 f2.8 VC Just for me haha. But i really do believe it would get a huge amount of views. Many people want to know what lenses work good and witch ones don't.
Hey Dan thx for the video, In the galaxy picture, are those blue haloes around the bright stars? and did you notice a problem with very contrasty white and black pictures specially night sky? I remember sony had a problem like that in previous versions
Hey Dan, After watching a couple of ur reviews I subscribed. I notice two great quality in you. 1. You connect and reply to ur fans 2. Your reviews are honest and inclusive. Now time for my Question. Shall I buy Sony A7RIV or wait for Sony A7IV. When u expect A7IV in market , any idea approx price. Thanks.
Thanks for the sub!!! So, I have no idea when the A7IV will hit but I full expect it to be in the next few months. My guess on price would be about $2300. Now that Sony has the A7c as the "entry" full frame camera, they can move a bit up-market with the A7IV. Now, about which one to get...if you shoot photos mainly, the A7RIV is absolutely amazing and there will be very little reason for the A7IV over the A7RIV in my opinion. However, if you are a video shooter as well, there will be some massive upgrades on the A7IV that would be well worth waiting for since the A7RIV is a bit behind in the video department. Hope that helps! The A7RIV is on a rare awesome sale right now too: bhpho.to/3jKNxgt
I have mine on preorder. It's nice to have 2 card slots, but it's a bummer they did not put both UHS II slots in their. I think this is going to be a hybrid shooters dream camera. Do you have an intervalometer you can recommend for the Sony a7r iii? It is a shame it's not built-in. Hopefully it will come back with a firmware update.
you talked about shooting 10 frames per second shooting but said you might want to drop it to 8 frames to bring it from 12bit raw to 14 bit raw.... How do you change it from 10 to 8 frames....where on the menu is that please ???
There is something about Sony system never been mentioned or even noticed by reviewers. Of course, people always complaining sony system's lousy menus and control, but actually the real problem is neither the menu itself nor the button layout. The most obvious feature that sony need to improve is the way to toggle between different modes/settings, For example, if i want to change from AF-s to AF-c, even if assigned to one of the custom function button, after pressing that button, there will be a short menu showing up, occupying the entire LCD screen, and you have to scroll though several lines (AF-s, AF-c, MF, DMF in this case) which is, due to smooth action, very slow and very easy to over scroll. There is no way to quickly lock on AF-c with muscle memory. After selecting AF-c, I have to press shutter release once to go back to normal screen to continue shotting. The same goes to changing RAW/JPG, Focus area, WB, on/off steady shot, Full frame/crop mode et al. It requires at lease three sequential steps to complete one change, during which you are not able to frame again, and forced to open LCD screen, since there is no shoulder screen. Whereas, with Nikon/canon system, all you need to do is hold a button (AF mode, WB, RAW, et al) and at the same time push the rear wheel one or two clicks to complete to toggle. In the mean time, you can keep looking through the viewfinder to frame/focus/track the subject, or just look down the shoulder screen, there will be no menu involved in the whole process. I hope sony can get this improved in the future, as this together with slow startup time is probably the last two steps that sony is from a real pro camera as compared with nikon/canon DSLRs, giving the already improved battery and auto focus.
Sony does now have a menu option for having custom modes triggered by a programmed button. So you COULD program your AF on button for AF-C JPEG to quickly navigate to that. Very similar to what Canon does in the 5D4. You can also setup one of the custom modes to whatever settings you want
Yep, I absolutely plan on using it for both. Sally and I shoot weddings (both photo and video) and we will be giving our impressions on it soon. Camera arrives tomorrow! With the longer batter, dual cards, better controls, and solid focus system, I think Sony is finally ready for this market. I still think it has some weaknesses for video such as a limited 30 min record time, no flip out screen (a little dim too), and average IBIS for video, but certainly no other single camera does both photo and video better.
120fps quality vs a7s ii? also 120fps in low light quality? lastly for really good 120 fps do you really need to be in ff mode? cuz I'm thinking about selling my a7s ii and getting this, but mostly so I can use super 35mm cinema glass. thanks for your reply.
I have both and a comparison is on the way! The D850 is great as long as you don't need to use live view and don't care about the size. But I do think the features on the a7RIII start adding up to a slightly better camera, especially if you want to shoot video.
Hi Dan, I see you know a lot about photography and asking if you can clear something for me... I was importing some raw files from my nikon D500 and saw same huge difference in exposure between the preview I had before importing the NEF files with acdsee 9 and the imported RAW into lightroom CC classic... The huge difference is that if I open the NEF files into acdsee just to visualize the exposure is higher and closer to the right light... in lightroom the nef files seems so dark.... without post processing at all... I can see a little diference in exposure if I set the camera profile from adobe standard to camera standard etc but the diff in exposure are not so much into lightroom and still so dark...I just realisez I am increasing almost all my photos exposures into lightroom among 1.5-2.5 stops.... I mean to equalize what I am seeing for the same raw file in acdsee I must increase the Exposure in lightroom like 2 stops... why this huge difference and why acdsee seems to read a more correct exposure ?
Quality is the same, usability is night and day. For landscape photographers or non professionals, the a7RII is probably fine although the a7RIII does offer benefits. For everyone else, the a7RIII is probably worth the cost
Hi Dan, I'm looking into buying my first full-frame for portraits. My biggest hesitation with mirrorless is that EVF vs OVF which I am accustomed to. Any thoughts about adjusting to EVF? Debating between this and Canon 5D Mk4 for natural buttery light.
Hey! Honestly as long as you are buying a decent camera with a good EVF (A7RIII, Z6, EOS R, XT-3 or better), the EVF will be EASY to adjust to and being able to see exactly what your image will look like before shooting will make you wonder why you didn't go mirrorless EVF earlier lol. The only adjustment points will be when you are shooting flash and when in super low light where the EVF is better because it will show you the scene brighter than your eyes will see it but it will also have grain. The only big negative to an EVF is when shooting crazy slow shutter speeds under 1/15 where the refresh of the viewfinder will become an issue. In those cases the EVF has the option of showing you your ACTUAL settings OR a more natural view. Typically you would want to show your actual settings unless you are in one of the bad cases I mentioned when the natural view will be best
@@learningcameras Hi Dan! Wow! Thanks so much for that thorough reply. It helped clarify the major hesitations I have with EVF in portrait photography. Basically it's what you see is what you get in RAW. That's a big help as well in post. Thank you again and more power to you both!
Hi Dan, Thanks for this video, very informative and complete. I was wondering to sell all my Canon equipment to buy this Camera, watching this video I will definitely buy as soon as I can. Also the video quality is superbe :) I'm glad you talked about buffering, usually nobody do.
+A Chered if you can spend your life below iso 1600, either because you don't shoot in the dark, use wide aperture primes, or don't mind significant grain, get the gh5. It's an amazing video camera and has features that I doubt the a7siii will get. But, and that's a massive but, if you need more than 1600iso, wait for the sIII or take advantage of some killer deals on the sII
I have no idea. There are also rumors of a GH5s that would be better in low light and I never would have expected that (I still have doubts) so maybe that will be your option.
Absolutely nothing major. Technically the A has a slightly higher resolution screen panel but quality differences are unnoticeable. There is separate firmware but I have no idea why Sony confused things by throwing out the A model
@@learningcameras Ok, thank you!🤙So I think I'll buy the Alpha 7R III A because it's 500 francs cheaper at the moment. I think this gives me a good start in the upper entry level range. I want to use it for nature and astrophotography but also for shooting downhill races.
In super 35, the a7RIII will have more detail though likely worse high iso performance. In full frame mode the a7SII will most likely be the champion based on what I have seen. Have not compared both directly but I have shot with both. My guess is that the a7SIII will have something like a 16MP sensor for oversampling to improve detail slightly
Hello Dan, I am coming from fuji x t2 and I had 56mm , 16mm and 35mm prime lenses. now would like to shift to sony and would you recommend a3 or ar3 for me. Generally I shoot portraits of family and friends, some videos and some nature photography. I am just a hobbyist but like sharp pictures which I normally used to achieve with fuji 56mm for portraits. Please advise me
Hey! So while the A73 is certainly plenty camera for you and would indeed be an upgrade from the XT2, the A7R3 is a bit nicer with more resolution which can be great for retouching portraits and a better viewfinder/screen. It's probably not worth the upgrade from a financial perspective, especially if you are just a hobbyist, but if you have the budget, the R3 is technically a tad better. Otherwise save the $ and get the A73 and use the savings for some nice lenses. The Sony 85mm F1.8 is a great lens, not too expensive, and would be similar to that 56mm but if you have the budget, the Sony 85mm F1.4GM is dreamy. Here are my recommended lenses: goo.gl/ic5Uqd
I was actually very pleased with the image quality of the 5Ds. I think people forget about it because Canon crippled many other aspects of it but for studio work, it's great. I made a video on it a while back: th-cam.com/video/bLnnTLDSiYA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Dan ! Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴 I have the Sony a7iii, and use it mainly for photography. Should i go for the Sony a7r iii? I'm not a professional photographer.
Hey! So definitely not. The only advantage to the RIII is slightly more resolution which isn't important unless you are printing crazy large, a slightly higher resolution screen/viewfinder, and a bit better weather sealing. Nothing that most people would miss. Definitely keep the A7III and we might actually see an A7IV coming up in the next few months that should be a better upgrade
Yes but only on a good sale. At current prices I'd buy this instead: bhpho.to/3qWM10j but if you can buy it under $2500 and ideally under $2200, it's still solid
+Philip Cunio hahaha, she does it well! You can see more of her work at: instagram.com/mrssallywatson Many of the images from this were shot by her as well
Hi Dan I’m in the market for mirroeless camera coming from Fuji XT2. Wanted to switch to Sony A7riii and or the A9. I tried the A7iii at the nearby best buy and not a fan of the lower res EVF and LCD that’s why I’m leaning towards the Riii or the A9. My question is, is it worth the extra $$ to get the A9? I’m a hobbyist but planning to make photography as a business this year. Shooting more of family (with kids), portraits, editorial/lifestyle style shoots and second shooting weddings too other than that I shoot just normal stuff in the house with my family and little kids. Should I get the A9 to catch the fast moving kids and also so when I shoot more weddings then i’m covered with the silent shutter. Or go for the R3 for better MP. What would you get if you will pick one as a event and portrait shooter? Pls help me decide. Thanks in advance.
I would have said no to the A9 before but Sony just announced an insane firmware upgrade for it that takes it a step ahead of the A7RIII in many ways. I definitely think the A7RIII is fast enough for what you are shooting though but the A9 would offer silent shooting for weddings, higher frame rate, better autofocus, and a few other upgrades although with slightly lower MP. I like having more MP for editing portraits (you can zoom closer for skin retouching) but I almost never want more than 24MP unless I'm working for a print magazine or doing super large prints. Tough call though
Thank you for you honest opinion and advice I really appreciate it! I think I’ll get the A9 for now. I dont think I will need the 42MP for the stuff I do, last thing I want to worry about is my computer slowing down due to larger files. And plus they have the Sony trade up event now, with a trade in it make’s the A9 price very reasonable on the stuff it can do specially with the newest firmware. Thanks again Dan 😊
@@kobyas You got it!!! That will be an AWESOME setup! Got to play around with the A9 pre-production firmware and it is absolutely insane how good the AF tracking is. Appreciate you considering using the affiliate links when you purchase to support the channel!!! Here is some of my fav lenses for either cam: kit.com/learningcameras/sony-a7riii-recommended-gear Here is the A9 deal at B&H: bhpho.to/2T1zgiH
GoldenSupra :D Who’s talking about Canon? I’m OK if you are forking out $3000 every year for incremental upgrades. I have time to wait for MK5 when Sony will be willing to put a fully functional responsive touch screen in it (which is ancient tech in 2017) and improve on the rest of the quirks. As of now A7RIII doesn’t give me anything special that I’m missing from my current setup that’s all...
It sure has improvements over A7RII with bigger battery, dual card slots, and a "half ass" limited functionality unresponsive touch screen but for me it still doesn't doesn't give enough to jump the ship - especially considering the cost.
i'm guessing with the fact that nobody is talking about using canon mount glass, that it's still terrible, and limits a lot of the features? if it runs at the full ability with my canon glass, i have to admit i'll be renting one now and then. keep up the good work
Thanks Ben! I actually have a video on the way showing the Metabones and Sigma adapters with Canon glass. It's not near as good as native glass with continuous tracking but you do get all the features including eye AF. Not bad for landscapes and portraits but I wouldn't use adapters for anything with fast moving subjects.
Dan Watson thanks Dan, i’ll look forwards too it. Have to admit, from the sound of it, I’ll be sticking to my 5d3 as a secondary camera, rather than updating it to the Sony. All the best
Not really the same class given it's micro 4/3. Gopros could handle 120fps back in 2014 (and for way cheaper) but again, the smaller sensor size makes this easier to handle. Getting a full frame sensor to hit 120fps is tough.
Please, Please, Please help me choose, which one you suggest to buy D850 or A7r III ? Buying for my family shooting and video recording. Always been a Canon shooter had all their cameras but I’m ready/ want to switch to something new. So please help me decide? Thank you very much I’ll be really appreciate!
For that, I would get the a7RIII. Quality is pretty much identical, I WAY prefer shooting video on the a7RIII than D850, and a smaller/lighter body is probably better for what you are doing.
Sure, I believe the D850 is better for harsh environments with extreme heat or extreme cold and has a better selection of long lenses over 200mm for sports/wildlife photographers.
I'm between the a7RIII and GH5. The a7RIII is better quality for sure and my personal favorite to own but I feel like it was more of Sony just getting in to the zone and fixing the things that were still behind the competition from the a7RII. The GH5 for me was just a complete forward push for videographers with tons of features/abilities that were not available in any other sub $5000 camera and it is still unmatched in many ways.
If you're shooting portraits, landscape or product there's basically no reason to buy an a7r III, imo. The idea of 10 42MP images shooting through a buffer has little appeal to me. I already spend enough time culling. *But* for wedding, event or serious astrophotographers there are some interesting features and it's a nice little *upgrade* over the a7r ii.
No option to shoot smaller raw files kills it for me as a wedding photographer, and no play memories in the a7riii is really disappointing as I use it for casual shooting and landscapes a lot. 42mp IS overkill, slows my workflow and eats u away too much HDD space for weddings. I'm sticking to my a7rii until I can afford an a9 or when sony finally releases a 24MP camera with dual card slots and better AF.
Does the competition have IBIS, an EVF, 4k oversampled video with log recording/peaking/zebra/timecode/hlg, 68% AF coverage, 10fps mech or 10fps silent shooting, usb c charging, pixel shift, & Eye AF? I think they did a bit more than catch up with the competition.
Valid, but the way this marketing game is played is to offer more than the competition at competitive pricing. Sony wants ~ $1k (street) more for that stuff and that is all some of it is, is stuff. Image quality is just on par with the competition. I rue the day that DSLRs only have a EVF option. Pixel shift is basically worthless at this point (perfect it before you make us pay for it). I'll give you the usb charging point (that's one). Watch Tony Northrup ... then make him not so nice. That's me :)
+Jeff Tight the cameras themselves are very price competitive. This is lower than the 5d4 was for example but Sony lenses are still extremely expensive and no 3rd party native options exist so that's partly to blame. I actually could see the difference in pixel shift at 200% in my file (you can download my files below) so it could be valuable for large prints. There are few situations that warrant it and I wish you could generate it in camera but I certainly wouldn't call it broken. I also believe this generation of evf is good enough to compete with optical and they will only get better unlike optical. It's nice to see your exposure in the viewfinder and you can chimp without taking your eye out of the viewfinder with no glare at 100%! Great on a sunny day
Technically the A7III. The lower resolution allows it to have slightly better low light performance as well as detail since it oversamples from a larger area.
The A7RIII is more expensive because it has slightly better weather sealing, a high resolution sensor, a better screen/viewfinder, and a few extra photo specific modes for high resolution capture. But video is a different story
The GH5 is certainly catering to a more pro video audience and has features you can't get on the a7RIII. But there is no denying the quality, dynamic range, and low light ability of a full frame sensor vs m43 so it just depends. For stills there is no comparison.
The camera? It's lower than the 5D4 was when it came out and the same as the D850 which is the competition. Sony lenses are certainly ridiculously priced though and there are no native 3rd party options from Sigma/Tamron like there are for other brands which sucks.
+Nelstill so all the shots of me talking to the camera were actually shot on the GH5 which is my main video camera so use that for reference. Technically the GH5 is a better video camera in many ways but the smaller sensor means you can't shoot above 800iso without grain, you need wide aperture primes or speed Boosters to get shallow depth of field, and the autofocus sucks. The A7RIII blows the gh5 out of the water for still images though
haha, it's always fun to dream. There are some crazy good deals on the a6000 and original Sony a7! You don't get all the features of the newest releases but they have amazing image quality
Shooting at an aperture of F16-F22 gives you the starburst effect. It's typically what you go for in landscape images and it helps make the sun a subject of the photo rather than just a big light blob. You would not do that for portraits where you want your person to be the subject and not the sun.
American’s make me laugh. You talk about “pick one UP” as though this camera costs chicken feed. In the UK £3199.00 equates to $4279.00. Body Only. In the UK that is 2 months salary for some people and you say it as though it is just something you put on your credit card. You have not bought a lens yet, so you are talking mega money. There are many Uk residents would love to own such a camera, but do not have and will never have that kind of money. Realism is needed in your reviews as for many it will always be a dream. For many do they really need this camera if they are not shooting professionally. Large RAW files and lots of hard drive storage.
+Nicky foulkes I'm not sure how other cameras are priced but the a7riii is the same price as the D850 and even cheaper than the 5d mark IV was when it was released. So it's no more expensive than the competition... At least for the camera. Lenses are insanely expensive though
Funny to hear this about UK, the wealthiest of Europe (as it's still in), go to see some other countries that cannot afford this after a year of working and not spending anything. Or you ca do like me, buy in 2017 an a7ii for 1000eur on offer. I think in most situations the most important feature is the sensor, 7ii has the same sensor as 7 and 7riii the same as 7rii, so doesn't justify so much the upgrade.
For professional photographers, $3200.00-$4279.00 is relatively inexpensive as the primary piece of gear for your business. For hobbyists, it is expensive.
+bassangler73 I have the D850 sitting on my desk. What do you prefer on the D850 other than the fact that it feels and looks like a tank next to the a7riii?
Dan Watson well first Sony's has had their share of problems in the past so I dont trust them plus they are so tiny its like they are built for a little kid, im a wildlife shooter and I just cant see a 600mm lens on that little body, and im no fan of evf
hahahaha @Carl. My last Nikon camera I actually purchased was the D600 which was famously recalled but only after Nikon screwed us owners over by putting out the D610, an IDENTICAL camera with a fixed shutter. I think at least half of their cameras since then have had a recall. But you are right @bass that a 600mm lens doesn't balance well on a small body....of course Sony doesn't have anything even close to that long at the moment. But even if you have a D5 & a 600mm, it's usually the lens that carries the body not the other way around so in reality, Sony's camera will be putting less stress on your 600mm lens! An EVF takes getting used to but once you have used a good one, it's tough to go back. It's also great for previewing your images in direct sun where even the best screens are tough to see. It's like having a loupe with you everywhere you go. You also never need to take your eye out of the viewfinder whether you are shooting or previewing images
Mako Sports I knew you would reply...lol...dont get me wrong if Sony's your thing go for it, I was actually impressed with the A9 but I just prefer a bigger heavier camera body
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I have one ordered. I love the A7Rii, but the faster focusing, joystick nob, etc on A7Riii.....are a must have.
Dan. Your wife adds life to your otherwise very technical reviews. I say this as a compliment, not criticism. I suggest you keep her involved as much as possible.
Thanks Tony! Completely agree
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Dan great video! Keep up the great work. - I've got one on preorder. Still torn on making the switch from current Fuji setup to this a7riii. For someone who mainly uses camera for Travel, Landscapes, Everyday Documentary and doing more video lately... do you think it's worth making the switch??? Thanks in advance!
In 3 more sleeps! ! Great vid, Dan! Do you think I should pick up the small grip even if I'll probably end up getting the battery grip?
One is enough for now :)
@snapclik Thanks! Probably skip the small grip then. It's not the greatest anyway because you lose the tripod socket and can't remove a battery so I'd just get the grip. I used the camera for 3 days without the battery grip and I even had one with me! Just wanted to be smaller/lighter because we were traveling so I never ended up even using it so I'm sure you will be fine until you get the grip. You will want it if you are hand holding a 70-200 all day but for normal use it's fine without it.
Didn't realize it blocked the battery door as well. Wont bother with it, thanks!
I just ordered one of these and i'm excited about having my first camera with an evf. I made a rookie mistake last week while shooting wildlife with my canon sl2 where I took pictures through the viewfinder only to find out later that I forgot to adjust the settings and came out with dark images. So having an evf that will show me exactly what the pictures will look like before i even press the shutter will be tremendously helpful
Ordered mine today, the a7R IIIa version. I was worried it was a bit too old, but I think its still very good.
@@rymdskrotet it is definitely a great camera for the money. The autofocus isn't the greatest compared to other cameras on the market but for an all around professional grade shooter you can't go wrong with this camera. I've been getting great images so far and I'm very happy with it
I just got my a7r mark3 as upgrade to my old Sony a77. I am absolutely blown away with low light performance. Like wow. This camera is amazing. I am totally sold on mirrorless now. Never going back to DSLR
Awesome!!!
Can not understand why sony removed the apps feature from this camera.I use the time lapse app in the a7r2 a lot and have spent a lot of money buying all the other apps.Will not be buying this camera for that reason.
Finally someone who isn't afraid to mention some of the issues/challenges it still faces. Thank you for the honest review. Sounds like Sony has a winner.
Thanks Jake! Yep, definitely a winner.
Im a proud owner now and my first lens is the 24-70 GM :)
The best reviews about this camera on TH-cam, great job, congratulations
Your best review yet - and you and your wife are now the #1 photo/video expert couple. Were you using the 70-200 f4 or 2.8 in some of your shots? Which of these two lenses would you recommend.
Thanks Charles!!! Really appreciate it. We used the 70-200 f2.8 GM and the 24-70 f2.8 GM almost exclusively. I don't use the F4 much because we shoot weddings which pretty much demands F2.8 glass. It's a great lens and crazy sharp but also unbelievably expensive. If you don't absolutely need F2.8, the F4 is on an awesome sale right now: bhpho.to/2iaMZ9T so I would be more likely to pick that up and maybe add the Sony 85mm F1.8 for when you need the wider aperture which is also on sale: bhpho.to/2hPVmaO . You could do both those and still save around $700 vs getting the 70-200 F2.8 GM
I ordered the 70-200 using your link.
I've played around with the Sony a7RIII and I found it to be on the smaller size and not fully weather hardened. I'm likely going for the Nikon D850 that is battle weatherproofed and built strong like the famed Nikon F3 and F4's if you remember those. By the way, I'm not a Nikon focused person. I own various camera manufacturers. I require the specialized lenses and other attachments of the multi-faceted Nikon line. Also, if you haven't checked out the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 ART DG HSM Lens (a lens of the year contender) for the Nikon, Canon and Sigma line you should at least read about it. The shot count per battery charge is an amazing 5100 + with battery grip. It does set you back 1000.00 but you get a vertical grip with control buttons, 9FPS and excellent balance. The 45.7 megapixels provides outstanding resolution. However, its not for everyone when you consider the size and weight. For street/doc photography you can't go wrong with the high res/dynamic range of the smaller Fuji line. And for video the top Panasonic GH5 is in a league of its own. If you want the best you can get a Hasselblad but we can't have everything. I've found that you need certain cameras for specialized needs. The idea that one camera fits all is wishful thinking. Sony has done a great job with this camera but with so many great cameras on the market, the real differntiation is the person behind it.
On this Sony A7r III 3 an important thing is missing which is the color inversion or negative. Very useful for reproducing color or black and white negatives. Many photographers have these negatives in stock and could digitize them. I hope this message reaches Mr. Sony's ears.
Great review. I wish Sony would listen to the pros, which might care about weight but much less about size. GH5 is a great example of how you should make a camera. It's lite and very comfortable to use. Well, maybe Sony a7riv?
Diggin' all the broll. great review!
Appreciate that! Big fan of your videos as well
How do you like the video at 4K ? Can you upload to Dropbox one file to check ?
+Soumendra Jena yeah, I'm going to try to throw a couple 4k files in a folder tonight along with some original raw files. Link will be in the description. 4k video seems great with a bit more detail using S35 due to the oversampling. If you need a stills camera that can shoot video, there is absolutely nothing better than the a7riii. I still found some interesting color shifts though and obviously no 10 bit is a bummer especially if you shoot log. Screen is also not as bright as I would like
Hey, just uploaded a video file for you to take a look at including 4k, slow motion, and low light as well as some RAW+jpegs!!!
Dan Watson files download link ?
In the description is a link to the FB post with the files
All the negatives seem to be personal minor issues. One of many great cameras on the market.
Mr. Dan the Man
I think you would have the hottest views on youtube if you took the A7r lll and the Sigma mc-11 adapter to a lens rental place. And you tried every lens possible all in one video. Testing focus speed and eye focus. Like every Canon, Sigma, and Tamron lens at the rental place. And any other Canon mount company. Especially the original Sigma 50 and 85 f1.4 lenses. And the first Tamron 24/70 f2.8 VC Just for me haha. But i really do believe it would get a huge amount of views. Many people want to know what lenses work good and witch ones don't.
Hi, i have the A7RIII with 24-70 G master. I wanted to sell this combo for the EOS R, am i crazy?
Very Impressive Camera!!! You are right!
That was a great review! Way to go into detail and love the sample images!
Thanks Gleb!!! Appreciate it. Nice videos by the way
Dan Watson Thank you!
The quality of the video in this review it mind blowing, was this all recorded on the A7R iii ?
Thanks! Everything was recorded by the A7RIII except us talking which was mostly the GH5
Hey Dan thx for the video, In the galaxy picture, are those blue haloes around the bright stars? and did you notice a problem with very contrasty white and black pictures specially night sky? I remember sony had a problem like that in previous versions
Hey Dan,
After watching a couple of ur reviews I subscribed.
I notice two great quality in you.
1. You connect and reply to ur fans
2. Your reviews are honest and inclusive.
Now time for my Question.
Shall I buy Sony A7RIV or wait for Sony A7IV.
When u expect A7IV in market , any idea approx price.
Thanks.
Thanks for the sub!!!
So, I have no idea when the A7IV will hit but I full expect it to be in the next few months. My guess on price would be about $2300. Now that Sony has the A7c as the "entry" full frame camera, they can move a bit up-market with the A7IV. Now, about which one to get...if you shoot photos mainly, the A7RIV is absolutely amazing and there will be very little reason for the A7IV over the A7RIV in my opinion. However, if you are a video shooter as well, there will be some massive upgrades on the A7IV that would be well worth waiting for since the A7RIV is a bit behind in the video department. Hope that helps! The A7RIV is on a rare awesome sale right now too: bhpho.to/3jKNxgt
I have mine on preorder. It's nice to have 2 card slots, but it's a bummer they did not put both UHS II slots in their. I think this is going to be a hybrid shooters dream camera. Do you have an intervalometer you can recommend for the Sony a7r iii? It is a shame it's not built-in. Hopefully it will come back with a firmware update.
you talked about shooting 10 frames per second shooting but said you might want to drop it to 8 frames to bring it from 12bit raw to 14 bit raw.... How do you change it from 10 to 8 frames....where on the menu is that please ???
nevermind fiqure it out
One of the best reviewers on youtube
Appreciate that!
I already have a A7 iii, but I also want a A7R iii!
There is something about Sony system never been mentioned or even noticed by reviewers. Of course, people always complaining sony system's lousy menus and control, but actually the real problem is neither the menu itself nor the button layout. The most obvious feature that sony need to improve is the way to toggle between different modes/settings, For example, if i want to change from AF-s to AF-c, even if assigned to one of the custom function button, after pressing that button, there will be a short menu showing up, occupying the entire LCD screen, and you have to scroll though several lines (AF-s, AF-c, MF, DMF in this case) which is, due to smooth action, very slow and very easy to over scroll. There is no way to quickly lock on AF-c with muscle memory. After selecting AF-c, I have to press shutter release once to go back to normal screen to continue shotting. The same goes to changing RAW/JPG, Focus area, WB, on/off steady shot, Full frame/crop mode et al. It requires at lease three sequential steps to complete one change, during which you are not able to frame again, and forced to open LCD screen, since there is no shoulder screen. Whereas, with Nikon/canon system, all you need to do is hold a button (AF mode, WB, RAW, et al) and at the same time push the rear wheel one or two clicks to complete to toggle. In the mean time, you can keep looking through the viewfinder to frame/focus/track the subject, or just look down the shoulder screen, there will be no menu involved in the whole process. I hope sony can get this improved in the future, as this together with slow startup time is probably the last two steps that sony is from a real pro camera as compared with nikon/canon DSLRs, giving the already improved battery and auto focus.
Sony does now have a menu option for having custom modes triggered by a programmed button. So you COULD program your AF on button for AF-C JPEG to quickly navigate to that. Very similar to what Canon does in the 5D4. You can also setup one of the custom modes to whatever settings you want
"Dan Watson" Thank you for the RAW and JPG. Plus the video
You got it!
With the Black Friday discount sales for the a7R3 going for less than US$2k does it make sense to go for it or wait for the more expensive a74?
For photos, I think the sale on the R3 is absolutely great but if you are shooting video or a hybrid shooter, I'd wait for the A74
I have one on order, from the first day it was announced.
Dan, I’m looking for a camera to shoot weddings. An affordable Sony. Would u of u recommend the A7R lll ?
The RIII is still great but if you don't need all those megapixels, it's pretty close to the A7IV which is a huge improvement in a few areas
Great video! Would ever consider using this camera for a wedding, both for photography & video?
Yep, I absolutely plan on using it for both. Sally and I shoot weddings (both photo and video) and we will be giving our impressions on it soon. Camera arrives tomorrow!
With the longer batter, dual cards, better controls, and solid focus system, I think Sony is finally ready for this market. I still think it has some weaknesses for video such as a limited 30 min record time, no flip out screen (a little dim too), and average IBIS for video, but certainly no other single camera does both photo and video better.
120fps quality vs a7s ii? also 120fps in low light quality? lastly for really good 120 fps do you really need to be in ff mode? cuz I'm thinking about selling my a7s ii and getting this, but mostly so I can use super 35mm cinema glass. thanks for your reply.
On the Sony A7R 2/3 using the MC-11 adapter does it support AF illuminator/Assist? (for low light focusing).
How would you compare the Sony A7Riii to the Nikon D850...which one would you buy if you were upgrading your current camera now?
I have both and a comparison is on the way! The D850 is great as long as you don't need to use live view and don't care about the size. But I do think the features on the a7RIII start adding up to a slightly better camera, especially if you want to shoot video.
Do advice me to buy it for traveler and for videographer?
Is there still the dust problem on the sensors as past a7's? Is that an issue?
Hi Dan, I see you know a lot about photography and asking if you can clear something for me... I was importing some raw files from my nikon D500 and saw same huge difference in exposure between the preview I had before importing the NEF files with acdsee 9 and the imported RAW into lightroom CC classic... The huge difference is that if I open the NEF files into acdsee just to visualize the exposure is higher and closer to the right light... in lightroom the nef files seems so dark.... without post processing at all... I can see a little diference in exposure if I set the camera profile from adobe standard to camera standard etc but the diff in exposure are not so much into lightroom and still so dark...I just realisez I am increasing almost all my photos exposures into lightroom among 1.5-2.5 stops.... I mean to equalize what I am seeing for the same raw file in acdsee I must increase the Exposure in lightroom like 2 stops... why this huge difference and why acdsee seems to read a more correct exposure ?
How does the rolling shutter on this camera compare to gh5? Would have been awesome if it had 4k 60fps.. hope a7s iii would have it.
Not great but I would say better than the a7RII. Probably slightly worse than the GH5 but the GH5 doesn't have to read from a super large sensor.
Great review guys!
Stephen Eckert thank you!!
Hi, do you recommend buying this camera?
I am on the fence between this and a used a7rii. I am currently shooting with the a7sii but would like to be able to produce larger prints.
Quality is the same, usability is night and day. For landscape photographers or non professionals, the a7RII is probably fine although the a7RIII does offer benefits. For everyone else, the a7RIII is probably worth the cost
Eye Af gives this camera the price of admission
Looks pretty cool.
Hi Dan, I'm looking into buying my first full-frame for portraits. My biggest hesitation with mirrorless is that EVF vs OVF which I am accustomed to. Any thoughts about adjusting to EVF? Debating between this and Canon 5D Mk4 for natural buttery light.
Hey! Honestly as long as you are buying a decent camera with a good EVF (A7RIII, Z6, EOS R, XT-3 or better), the EVF will be EASY to adjust to and being able to see exactly what your image will look like before shooting will make you wonder why you didn't go mirrorless EVF earlier lol. The only adjustment points will be when you are shooting flash and when in super low light where the EVF is better because it will show you the scene brighter than your eyes will see it but it will also have grain. The only big negative to an EVF is when shooting crazy slow shutter speeds under 1/15 where the refresh of the viewfinder will become an issue. In those cases the EVF has the option of showing you your ACTUAL settings OR a more natural view. Typically you would want to show your actual settings unless you are in one of the bad cases I mentioned when the natural view will be best
@@learningcameras Hi Dan! Wow! Thanks so much for that thorough reply. It helped clarify the major hesitations I have with EVF in portrait photography. Basically it's what you see is what you get in RAW. That's a big help as well in post. Thank you again and more power to you both!
Great image quality...
There's a Sony grip for the a9 and a7r ii that probably works on the a7r iii, too. It's great.
I think the one for the a9 works on this but the a7RII uses a different one
Dan Watson the grip I use on the a7r ii is the gpx-1em model. no battery and not a vertical grip. :-)
Hi Dan, Thanks for this video, very informative and complete. I was wondering to sell all my Canon equipment to buy this Camera, watching this video I will definitely buy as soon as I can. Also the video quality is superbe :) I'm glad you talked about buffering, usually nobody do.
Appreciate that Ve!
It is on a pretty awesome sale right now amzn.to/36sbaXu
I think I've only seen it cheaper once around black Friday
@@learningcameras I'll have a look then, thank you :)
Waiting for a7siii to switch to Sony, Dan? I’m stuck between waiting for iii or investing in GH5 and lenses.
+A Chered if you can spend your life below iso 1600, either because you don't shoot in the dark, use wide aperture primes, or don't mind significant grain, get the gh5. It's an amazing video camera and has features that I doubt the a7siii will get. But, and that's a massive but, if you need more than 1600iso, wait for the sIII or take advantage of some killer deals on the sII
Dan Watson And are you waiting for the siii to switch? Would this likely happen?
I have no idea. There are also rumors of a GH5s that would be better in low light and I never would have expected that (I still have doubts) so maybe that will be your option.
Can somebody please explain to me the difference between the Alpha 7R III & Alpha 7R III A? 🙏
Absolutely nothing major. Technically the A has a slightly higher resolution screen panel but quality differences are unnoticeable. There is separate firmware but I have no idea why Sony confused things by throwing out the A model
@@learningcameras Ok, thank you!🤙So I think I'll buy the Alpha 7R III A because it's 500 francs cheaper at the moment. I think this gives me a good start in the upper entry level range. I want to use it for nature and astrophotography but also for shooting downhill races.
Great video, thank you
Does the Metabones V focus better than IV?
nice edit, love the 2 star shots :)
Agreed, the sun was in a great spot and the leaves in the BG were really nice!
Damn, thanks alot for you review. Can you tell me where this place is you have been testing the a7rIII?
Thanks! We were in Sedona Arizona. It was absolutely amazing out there
Good review.
Sony is getting pretty close I just need them to make a nice 600 mm F4 lens or a good 400 to 600 mm lens
Just Comparing the video quality of A7Riii nd A7sii which 1 is better?
In super 35, the a7RIII will have more detail though likely worse high iso performance. In full frame mode the a7SII will most likely be the champion based on what I have seen. Have not compared both directly but I have shot with both. My guess is that the a7SIII will have something like a 16MP sensor for oversampling to improve detail slightly
Hello Dan,
I am coming from fuji x t2 and I had 56mm , 16mm and 35mm prime lenses. now would like to shift to sony and would you recommend a3 or ar3 for me. Generally I shoot portraits of family and friends, some videos and some nature photography. I am just a hobbyist but like sharp pictures which I normally used to achieve with fuji 56mm for portraits. Please advise me
Hey! So while the A73 is certainly plenty camera for you and would indeed be an upgrade from the XT2, the A7R3 is a bit nicer with more resolution which can be great for retouching portraits and a better viewfinder/screen. It's probably not worth the upgrade from a financial perspective, especially if you are just a hobbyist, but if you have the budget, the R3 is technically a tad better. Otherwise save the $ and get the A73 and use the savings for some nice lenses. The Sony 85mm F1.8 is a great lens, not too expensive, and would be similar to that 56mm but if you have the budget, the Sony 85mm F1.4GM is dreamy. Here are my recommended lenses: goo.gl/ic5Uqd
Would you use this over the Canon 1DX-Mark 2 for a dual shooter?
The image quality is certainly better but the lens selection and build quality could be an issue depending on what you shoot.
which one should we buy for indoor portraits studio canon 5d mark iv or 5ds R plz repy
I was actually very pleased with the image quality of the 5Ds. I think people forget about it because Canon crippled many other aspects of it but for studio work, it's great. I made a video on it a while back: th-cam.com/video/bLnnTLDSiYA/w-d-xo.html
Just found your page. It's really great.
Appreciate that
Hi Dan ! Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
I have the Sony a7iii, and use it mainly for photography.
Should i go for the Sony a7r iii?
I'm not a professional photographer.
Hey! So definitely not. The only advantage to the RIII is slightly more resolution which isn't important unless you are printing crazy large, a slightly higher resolution screen/viewfinder, and a bit better weather sealing. Nothing that most people would miss. Definitely keep the A7III and we might actually see an A7IV coming up in the next few months that should be a better upgrade
@@learningcameras Thanks Dan 😊
Damnnnnn, y'all are a bomb dimple also this camera im dying.
Is this Camera (and the 2021 "A" Version) any good in 2022 ?
Yes but only on a good sale. At current prices I'd buy this instead: bhpho.to/3qWM10j but if you can buy it under $2500 and ideally under $2200, it's still solid
@Dan Watson Thank you so much Sir.
Sony is The Best Camera in The World!!!
Dan, she is upstaging you. Look out!
+Philip Cunio hahaha, she does it well! You can see more of her work at: instagram.com/mrssallywatson
Many of the images from this were shot by her as well
Did you go to space for this video? (dedication). What lens did you use for the galaxy photo?
hahaha. It was a telescope rigged to accept a Sony E mount camera! No idea what the telescope was though but it was like 4ft long
that's awesome!
Hi Dan I’m in the market for mirroeless camera coming from Fuji XT2. Wanted to switch to Sony A7riii and or the A9. I tried the A7iii at the nearby best buy and not a fan of the lower res EVF and LCD that’s why I’m leaning towards the Riii or the A9. My question is, is it worth the extra $$ to get the A9? I’m a hobbyist but planning to make photography as a business this year. Shooting more of family (with kids), portraits, editorial/lifestyle style shoots and second shooting weddings too other than that I shoot just normal stuff in the house with my family and little kids. Should I get the A9 to catch the fast moving kids and also so when I shoot more weddings then i’m covered with the silent shutter. Or go for the R3 for better MP. What would you get if you will pick one as a event and portrait shooter? Pls help me decide. Thanks in advance.
I would have said no to the A9 before but Sony just announced an insane firmware upgrade for it that takes it a step ahead of the A7RIII in many ways. I definitely think the A7RIII is fast enough for what you are shooting though but the A9 would offer silent shooting for weddings, higher frame rate, better autofocus, and a few other upgrades although with slightly lower MP. I like having more MP for editing portraits (you can zoom closer for skin retouching) but I almost never want more than 24MP unless I'm working for a print magazine or doing super large prints. Tough call though
Thank you for you honest opinion and advice I really appreciate it! I think I’ll get the A9 for now. I dont think I will need the 42MP for the stuff I do, last thing I want to worry about is my computer slowing down due to larger files. And plus they have the Sony trade up event now, with a trade in it make’s the A9 price very reasonable on the stuff it can do specially with the newest firmware.
Thanks again Dan 😊
@@kobyas You got it!!! That will be an AWESOME setup! Got to play around with the A9 pre-production firmware and it is absolutely insane how good the AF tracking is. Appreciate you considering using the affiliate links when you purchase to support the channel!!! Here is some of my fav lenses for either cam: kit.com/learningcameras/sony-a7riii-recommended-gear
Here is the A9 deal at B&H: bhpho.to/2T1zgiH
I wonder if the images of the sony look flat and artificial compared to the nikon D850.
thanks for video👍👍👍👍
Which one is better? R3 or S3?
For video, the S3 but for images, definitely the R3 would be my favorite. I just think 12MP images on the S3 are too low for most things
Do you find the 120fps to be better than a6500 as it pertains to the softness? I currently have the camera pre-ordered.
If it goes like this A7RV will be perfect. I might switch to Sony then.
Tamas Varga you're like expecting when the Canon 5D Mark iii came out, the 5D Mark IV will get alot of improvements.
GoldenSupra :D Who’s talking about Canon? I’m OK if you are forking out $3000 every year for incremental upgrades. I have time to wait for MK5 when Sony will be willing to put a fully functional responsive touch screen in it (which is ancient tech in 2017) and improve on the rest of the quirks. As of now A7RIII doesn’t give me anything special that I’m missing from my current setup that’s all...
Tamas Varga yup just wait for the markiv or markv. The a7riii is basically a new body for a7rii
It sure has improvements over A7RII with bigger battery, dual card slots, and a "half ass" limited functionality unresponsive touch screen but for me it still doesn't doesn't give enough to jump the ship - especially considering the cost.
chances are the a7rV may come out before the canon 5d mkV
i'm guessing with the fact that nobody is talking about using canon mount glass, that it's still terrible, and limits a lot of the features? if it runs at the full ability with my canon glass, i have to admit i'll be renting one now and then. keep up the good work
Thanks Ben! I actually have a video on the way showing the Metabones and Sigma adapters with Canon glass. It's not near as good as native glass with continuous tracking but you do get all the features including eye AF. Not bad for landscapes and portraits but I wouldn't use adapters for anything with fast moving subjects.
Dan Watson thanks Dan, i’ll look forwards too it. Have to admit, from the sound of it, I’ll be sticking to my 5d3 as a secondary camera, rather than updating it to the Sony. All the best
New sub as a result of a good video.
Awesome! Thanks Jason
Hey Dan, can we expect a A7 III review?
It's out! th-cam.com/video/jDcB36B7HDM/w-d-xo.html
i know Im quite randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to stream new movies online ?
@Dalton Marcellus lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
@Liam Anthony Yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for years myself =)
@Liam Anthony Thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :) I really appreciate it!!
You have a new subscriber, i dream to have this camera 😔
5:27 - 120 frames class leading? But GH5 does 180, same class, and cheaper.
Not really the same class given it's micro 4/3. Gopros could handle 120fps back in 2014 (and for way cheaper) but again, the smaller sensor size makes this easier to handle. Getting a full frame sensor to hit 120fps is tough.
Do you think it’s better than 5D IV and D850?
If you like using live view or shooting video, absolutely yes. If you never use either of those, I would probably get something like the D850
Please, Please, Please help me choose, which one you suggest to buy D850 or A7r III ? Buying for my family shooting and video recording. Always been a Canon shooter had all their cameras but I’m ready/ want to switch to something new. So please help me decide? Thank you very much I’ll be really appreciate!
For that, I would get the a7RIII. Quality is pretty much identical, I WAY prefer shooting video on the a7RIII than D850, and a smaller/lighter body is probably better for what you are doing.
Dan Watson thanks, now can you tell me in what case would you pick D850? Thank you again!
Sure, I believe the D850 is better for harsh environments with extreme heat or extreme cold and has a better selection of long lenses over 200mm for sports/wildlife photographers.
Dan Watson what’s your favorite camera 📷 of 2017? :)
I'm between the a7RIII and GH5. The a7RIII is better quality for sure and my personal favorite to own but I feel like it was more of Sony just getting in to the zone and fixing the things that were still behind the competition from the a7RII. The GH5 for me was just a complete forward push for videographers with tons of features/abilities that were not available in any other sub $5000 camera and it is still unmatched in many ways.
If you're shooting portraits, landscape or product there's basically no reason to buy an a7r III, imo. The idea of 10 42MP images shooting through a buffer has little appeal to me. I already spend enough time culling. *But* for wedding, event or serious astrophotographers there are some interesting features and it's a nice little *upgrade* over the a7r ii.
No option to shoot smaller raw files kills it for me as a wedding photographer, and no play memories in the a7riii is really disappointing as I use it for casual shooting and landscapes a lot. 42mp IS overkill, slows my workflow and eats u away too much HDD space for weddings. I'm sticking to my a7rii until I can afford an a9 or when sony finally releases a 24MP camera with dual card slots and better AF.
So, it's a wonderful camera because it finally caught up with the competition? Oh, but it is still to small to handle well. Dan Watson? Who is he???
Does the competition have IBIS, an EVF, 4k oversampled video with log recording/peaking/zebra/timecode/hlg, 68% AF coverage, 10fps mech or 10fps silent shooting, usb c charging, pixel shift, & Eye AF? I think they did a bit more than catch up with the competition.
Valid, but the way this marketing game is played is to offer more than the competition at competitive pricing. Sony wants ~ $1k (street) more for that stuff and that is all some of it is, is stuff. Image quality is just on par with the competition. I rue the day that DSLRs only have a EVF option. Pixel shift is basically worthless at this point (perfect it before you make us pay for it). I'll give you the usb charging point (that's one). Watch Tony Northrup ... then make him not so nice. That's me :)
+Jeff Tight the cameras themselves are very price competitive. This is lower than the 5d4 was for example but Sony lenses are still extremely expensive and no 3rd party native options exist so that's partly to blame. I actually could see the difference in pixel shift at 200% in my file (you can download my files below) so it could be valuable for large prints. There are few situations that warrant it and I wish you could generate it in camera but I certainly wouldn't call it broken. I also believe this generation of evf is good enough to compete with optical and they will only get better unlike optical. It's nice to see your exposure in the viewfinder and you can chimp without taking your eye out of the viewfinder with no glare at 100%! Great on a sunny day
9:08 Like Heaven
Valhalla....!!!!
A7r3 or a73 for best videos??
Technically the A7III. The lower resolution allows it to have slightly better low light performance as well as detail since it oversamples from a larger area.
@@learningcameras but a7r3 better for both that's why is cost more right?
The A7RIII is more expensive because it has slightly better weather sealing, a high resolution sensor, a better screen/viewfinder, and a few extra photo specific modes for high resolution capture. But video is a different story
@@learningcameras I'm just confused between a7r3 and a73 so...I don't know yet
so this or the gh5 is better?
The GH5 is certainly catering to a more pro video audience and has features you can't get on the a7RIII. But there is no denying the quality, dynamic range, and low light ability of a full frame sensor vs m43 so it just depends. For stills there is no comparison.
Nice review, but I think is too expensive ...
The camera? It's lower than the 5D4 was when it came out and the same as the D850 which is the competition. Sony lenses are certainly ridiculously priced though and there are no native 3rd party options from Sigma/Tamron like there are for other brands which sucks.
Can U make a difference between this camera and Panasonic GH5? Which is more good?
+Nelstill so all the shots of me talking to the camera were actually shot on the GH5 which is my main video camera so use that for reference. Technically the GH5 is a better video camera in many ways but the smaller sensor means you can't shoot above 800iso without grain, you need wide aperture primes or speed Boosters to get shallow depth of field, and the autofocus sucks. The A7RIII blows the gh5 out of the water for still images though
even though i now use sony, i wil say they are the apple of cameras.
I dont like the lack of color in the pictures looks dead
I would have got more out of this review if I could slow the play back. Laughing. You talk so fast. But it still a good review.
This is not a review, this is a commercial, dude !
Nice video! First comment :)
And i'm stuck with my beloved sony NEX-3N.... Hahaha
haha, it's always fun to dream. There are some crazy good deals on the a6000 and original Sony a7! You don't get all the features of the newest releases but they have amazing image quality
Dan Watson thanks Dan..
What causes the starburst effect on the shots of the sun? Not sure I would want that effect.
Shooting at an aperture of F16-F22 gives you the starburst effect. It's typically what you go for in landscape images and it helps make the sun a subject of the photo rather than just a big light blob. You would not do that for portraits where you want your person to be the subject and not the sun.
No bias then...
Don't you think you should mention that it was an all expenses paid, by sony trip to Arizona ? !!
American’s make me laugh. You talk about “pick one UP” as though this camera costs chicken feed. In the UK £3199.00 equates to $4279.00. Body Only. In the UK that is 2 months salary for some people and you say it as though it is just something you put on your credit card. You have not bought a lens yet, so you are talking mega money. There are many Uk residents would love to own such a camera, but do not have and will never have that kind of money. Realism is needed in your reviews as for many it will always be a dream.
For many do they really need this camera if they are not shooting professionally. Large RAW files and lots of hard drive storage.
Yea but you get "free" healthcare.
+Nicky foulkes I'm not sure how other cameras are priced but the a7riii is the same price as the D850 and even cheaper than the 5d mark IV was when it was released. So it's no more expensive than the competition... At least for the camera. Lenses are insanely expensive though
Funny to hear this about UK, the wealthiest of Europe (as it's still in), go to see some other countries that cannot afford this after a year of working and not spending anything. Or you ca do like me, buy in 2017 an a7ii for 1000eur on offer. I think in most situations the most important feature is the sensor, 7ii has the same sensor as 7 and 7riii the same as 7rii, so doesn't justify so much the upgrade.
For professional photographers, $3200.00-$4279.00 is relatively inexpensive as the primary piece of gear for your business. For hobbyists, it is expensive.
Americans on youtube have a lot of money to spend
Nah...I'm getting the Best. The Nikon D850!
Cliff Medina 👍👍👍 smart man
Thanks for letting us know. Thanks for the providing some insightful reasons why. I'm sure you feel good about such a powerful statement.
Good camera for mirror less but it's no D850
+bassangler73 I have the D850 sitting on my desk. What do you prefer on the D850 other than the fact that it feels and looks like a tank next to the a7riii?
Dan Watson well first Sony's has had their share of problems in the past so I dont trust them plus they are so tiny its like they are built for a little kid, im a wildlife shooter and I just cant see a 600mm lens on that little body, and im no fan of evf
hahahaha @Carl. My last Nikon camera I actually purchased was the D600 which was famously recalled but only after Nikon screwed us owners over by putting out the D610, an IDENTICAL camera with a fixed shutter. I think at least half of their cameras since then have had a recall. But you are right @bass that a 600mm lens doesn't balance well on a small body....of course Sony doesn't have anything even close to that long at the moment. But even if you have a D5 & a 600mm, it's usually the lens that carries the body not the other way around so in reality, Sony's camera will be putting less stress on your 600mm lens! An EVF takes getting used to but once you have used a good one, it's tough to go back. It's also great for previewing your images in direct sun where even the best screens are tough to see. It's like having a loupe with you everywhere you go. You also never need to take your eye out of the viewfinder whether you are shooting or previewing images
Mako Sports I knew you would reply...lol...dont get me wrong if Sony's your thing go for it, I was actually impressed with the A9 but I just prefer a bigger heavier camera body
Dan Watson I understand what your saying but I just prefer a big, heavy camera body
Hahaha...another Sony junk. Better wait some months, then the next revision comes out :)