Thanks a lot! My contractor went really light on the sealant and has nowhere near as much as you have. I’m going to have to look it over carefully now that the Wedi board was installed properly like yours before he covers it up with tile
Thanks guys. Your vids were sometimes the only good source of info on wedi installation. I’ve put in laminate, built wood fences....Yada yada, but never tiled. I originally put the collar on with their sealant, but pulled it off to do this.
Thank you so much for this video! It's so helpful for all the little details that come into play when installing a custom wedi shower. I wish I had this one video 4 years ago when I did mine! I'll be referring back to this when I do my next shower.
As a certified Wedi installer I don’t agree with a few things he did. He is very messy also.Don’t be like this guy. I have been pro certified for many years now and can definitely tell this guy is a weekend Hack.
You put the collar on inside out. It’s not a gasket to seal against the backside of the control valve face plate. The conical shape of the collar is meant to not allow water to trace behind the wall, it directs it back to the face of the wall board. So the narrower diameter of the collar goes inside, the larger diameter with the smaller ridge lip goes out at the face of the wall. The way you have it the lip sticks out well past the finished wall surface and will inevitably get distorted when you mount your face plate bracket (that gets secured flush with the finished wall). This will allow any water that reaches the collar to trace through and down the backside of the finished wall, as like electricity, water follows the path of least resistance. The cone shape is meant to prevent the water from getting past the inner most ridge of the narrower part of the cone. The water would have to be forced with pressure against gravity to get past the narrower inner part of the rubber ring. The face plate prevents direct spray so the water can only follow the rule of gravity and least resistance. Just my two cents.
This is exactly why I am here, no instructions so I am searching. This video was the only resource found and intuitively I thought it was put on backwards here as well. Thank you for your post, I entend to install as you have mentioned, not as shown in the video. @bathroomrepairtutor.com steve white keymaster here is an opportunity to "round your wheel" without making it smaller!
Not an expert on the mixing valve collar, but tend to agree with TJ. I simulated a leak and did a drip test, holding the collar over the sink and dropping water with a teaspoon from above onto the top of the fleece and on the lip. With the lip on my side, some water is shed to the sides, and some fall into the hole. With the lip facing away from me, water does not get in the hole since the lip slopes downwards from the inside diameter at the back towards the outside diameter at the front. The only scenario I can think of where the lip should face you is if the mixing valve protrudes out of the wall and fits tightly on the inner diameter of the lip to form a seal. But even then, I don't see the point.
I put in wedi board for the backsplash on a soaker tub 4 years or so ago. I believe Then the correct procedure was to notch half the width of the two boards and lock them into each other (top board notch back half bottom board notch front half out. Also believe I did this for the side seams too. When did this all change? Putting in a shower soon and don't want to mess up.
@@valpanig A great job isn't in how fast it's done, it's attention to detail and quality craftsmanship. Never apply sealant/caulk with on surfaces with dust/debris. Steve doesn't have a Shop Vac?
14:45 flexi collar this is how I installed the flexi collar as well. There are some videos of guys installing this inside out with the thicker portion inside, and the thinner wide mouth area on the outside. It would be helpful if there was instruction from Wedi on the packaging indicating which side faces out. It is my opinion the portion that protrudes the farthest is the "out" side. Thoughts?
thanks for the video very helpful, my question is did you cut out the wall panel to fit the curb that was in place? or did you notch the curb and the wall panel by 1/2' to fit the wall panel and curb together?
QUESTION - When you join two Wedi boards together with the Wedi screws to "pinch" them in, do you place the screw hole right at the join seam or through one of the boards?
@@HomeRepairTutor Thanks. I thought putting screws right at the joint might cause a bit of seam separation, so thought may be you placed the screw hole right near the edge of one of the boards while grabbing the other board with two of the washer teeth. At least it looked like it on some of the seams Steve put up on the video. Probably won't matter too much one way or another...
Does wedi have to be grouted from behind when sticking onto a wall? I only need to do a pipe boxing in the corner. Can grip Fill be used to place it on?
Hey guys, great videos. Have you used the Wedi butyl tub seal yet? It appears it is to seal a drop in tub without a flange, when the tub is actually placed against a wall or into an alcove. Any advice would be helpful!
Can I use formica laminate sheets with the wedi board instead of tiles? I would think so but you’d probably have to use an epoxy or something similar to make it adhere to it. Please let me know because it’s what I have already. Thanks and awesome educational video! Keep up the good work.
Can you wet shim wedi board to bring the walls flat, plumb, and square ( and stay in wedi warranty )? I know you can do that for kerdi board and stay in warranty, but I can't find any documentation for wedi board.
I used one of these flexi collars around my shower head pipe. If I need to change my shower heat pipe. Can I remove it from the collar/flange and reinstall the new shower head pipe thru the collar - and it will still be water proof?
You could fill in the hole with the piece you cut out or anther same size piece and seal it like you would other joints with Wedi sealant. The store I bought from said the sealant is extremely waterproof. Any joint will be waterproof if sealed with the sealant.
Great video. About to install my system. What exactly is the power tool you are using to make the delicate cuts - like cutting the wood for the custom shampoo box?
Great video! Steve looks super skillful! I like everything about the wedi system but how do you install a frameless shower enclosure and attach to wedi foam curbs? I haven't seen any useful hints how this should be done. Foam is weak for drilling into and many frameless enclosures have brackets that need to be screwed into the base. Any hints or ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
we get this question a lot, the most ideal situation is to add 2x4 blocking in the stud wall before adding Wedi backer boards. Place the extra 2x4s in the position where the shower door or glass will be located. Then, and this isn't perfect, add glass u-channel by drilling through the tile/Wedi and anchoring it into the studs. Apply 100% silicone in the screw holes, bottom of u-channel, and side of u-channel in the shower. Support bars can be used to stabilize large glass panels and they need to be factored into the glass planning phase as well as the shower surround.
good question JM, it’s not necessary to use RedGard over Wedi because the foam core is waterproof, you just need to waterproof the screws and seams with Wedi Joint Sealant
It's not necessary and was treated like two boards butting against each other, adding sealant at the board intersection and a second layer overlapping is sufficient
I believe the wedi brand sealant/caulk that is used is meant to work in place of tape. I used this method on my custom shower install 4 years ago and have not had a problem with leaks.
Wedi still not convinced on this system, those small adhesive lap joints make me feel uncomfortable. and the foam board, because it has the ability to compress, unlike the old conventional system,thoe little over time will fatigue and fail eventually even conventional systems especially with water intrusion through the grout and mortar bed if they have fatigue. The alleged benefits of the Wedi system are not enough to get me to change from the old tried and true system. I have demoed quite a few houses that were 75 to 80 years old and the showers even with broken tiles cracked mortar still held up no leaks, hot-mop on tin pans or mortar, or even lead pans lasted.
RedGard and CBU is a good option. The only issues are ease of use for the CBU, it taking an extra day for the seams (alkali tape/mortar drying), and warranty.
I think your video "record player" is skipping a little too much...must be a scratch in the vinyl...=p Great video otherwise! Steve needs gloves for that sealant!
I wasnt a fan of this video details matter folks the fasteners all willy nilly maybe its just me but The fasteners not being straight and kind of random made me cringe sure you wont see them behind the tile but this is the difference between a professional install and a diy or a contractor that doesn’t care for me when you use words like “about 10” which is it is it 10 or 10 and a 1/16 or is it 9 an 15/16”??? I didn’t like the niche either it’s too narrow and probably will be a b&tch to tile and just an awkward size and location I didn’t like how he just scabbed peices In and dropping and stepong on fasteners it’s great the product is forgiving but folks again you want a contractor that is carful so punctures don’t happen in the first place yes time is money but I don’t think you need to go warp speed either take your time put out quality other wise the install was “okayish”
Im eight and a half minutes in and after seeing that niche install I’m sold on kerdi.
Thanks a lot! My contractor went really light on the sealant and has nowhere near as much as you have. I’m going to have to look it over carefully now that the Wedi board was installed properly like yours before he covers it up with tile
Thanks guys. Your vids were sometimes the only good source of info on wedi installation. I’ve put in laminate, built wood fences....Yada yada, but never tiled. I originally put the collar on with their sealant, but pulled it off to do this.
Thank you so much for this video! It's so helpful for all the little details that come into play when installing a custom wedi shower. I wish I had this one video 4 years ago when I did mine! I'll be referring back to this when I do my next shower.
As a certified Wedi installer I don’t agree with a few things he did. He is very messy also.Don’t be like this guy. I have been pro certified for many years now and can definitely tell this guy is a weekend Hack.
@@tilemike Thank you. Which things don't you agree with?
@MGSdesignsTube Ignore him. He's just another loser troll
You put the collar on inside out. It’s not a gasket to seal against the backside of the control valve face plate. The conical shape of the collar is meant to not allow water to trace behind the wall, it directs it back to the face of the wall board. So the narrower diameter of the collar goes inside, the larger diameter with the smaller ridge lip goes out at the face of the wall. The way you have it the lip sticks out well past the finished wall surface and will inevitably get distorted when you mount your face plate bracket (that gets secured flush with the finished wall). This will allow any water that reaches the collar to trace through and down the backside of the finished wall, as like electricity, water follows the path of least resistance. The cone shape is meant to prevent the water from getting past the inner most ridge of the narrower part of the cone. The water would have to be forced with pressure against gravity to get past the narrower inner part of the rubber ring. The face plate prevents direct spray so the water can only follow the rule of gravity and least resistance. Just my two cents.
This is exactly why I am here, no instructions so I am searching. This video was the only resource found and intuitively I thought it was put on backwards here as well. Thank you for your post, I entend to install as you have mentioned, not as shown in the video.
@bathroomrepairtutor.com steve white keymaster here is an opportunity to "round your wheel" without making it smaller!
Not an expert on the mixing valve collar, but tend to agree with TJ.
I simulated a leak and did a drip test, holding the collar over the sink and dropping water with a teaspoon from above onto the top of the fleece and on the lip.
With the lip on my side, some water is shed to the sides, and some fall into the hole. With the lip facing away from me, water does not get in the hole since the lip slopes downwards from the inside diameter at the back towards the outside diameter at the front.
The only scenario I can think of where the lip should face you is if the mixing valve protrudes out of the wall and fits tightly on the inner diameter of the lip to form a seal. But even then, I don't see the point.
I put in wedi board for the backsplash on a soaker tub 4 years or so ago. I believe Then the correct procedure was to notch half the width of the two boards and lock them into each other (top board notch back half bottom board notch front half out. Also believe I did this for the side seams too. When did this all change? Putting in a shower soon and don't want to mess up.
6:58 When you cut open the niche, looked like you found a box of Dots candy, but turned out to be your level, oh well.
Great video....Steve makes it look so easy and fast, nice work!!
Thanks Paul
i agree, he was able to cut and secure all wall panels in 17 minutes ! Great job guys.
@@valpanig A great job isn't in how fast it's done, it's attention to detail and quality craftsmanship. Never apply sealant/caulk with on surfaces with dust/debris. Steve doesn't have a Shop Vac?
@@HomeRepairTutor where is next part
Looking good. The Wedi kit looks like an awesome system.
14:45 flexi collar this is how I installed the flexi collar as well. There are some videos of guys installing this inside out with the thicker portion inside, and the thinner wide mouth area on the outside. It would be helpful if there was instruction from Wedi on the packaging indicating which side faces out. It is my opinion the portion that protrudes the farthest is the "out" side. Thoughts?
thanks for the video very helpful, my question is did you cut out the wall panel to fit the curb that was in place? or did you notch the curb and the wall panel by 1/2' to fit the wall panel and curb together?
Did you have to purchase additional board to complete the job or was there enough in the kit to do the bench and niche?
Hello there, at 7:29 what type of thinset is being used? Modified or unmodified?
i realize Im quite off topic but do anybody know of a good site to stream newly released movies online?
@Corey Stefan I would suggest FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
@Dash Mason Yea, I have been using Flixzone for years myself :)
@Dash Mason Thanks, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I appreciate it !!
@Corey Stefan no problem xD
Hi what's the shower tray you used with the lip for the enclosure
QUESTION - When you join two Wedi boards together with the Wedi screws to "pinch" them in, do you place the screw hole right at the join seam or through one of the boards?
through the joint so the washer spans both boards
@@HomeRepairTutor Thanks. I thought putting screws right at the joint might cause a bit of seam separation, so thought may be you placed the screw hole right near the edge of one of the boards while grabbing the other board with two of the washer teeth. At least it looked like it on some of the seams Steve put up on the video. Probably won't matter too much one way or another...
Why leave the debris behind your work? Is it too much work to brush it out?
It is soundproofing, and keeps the junk from going to the landfill.
can you use wedi flooring on the shower walls?
Does wedi have to be grouted from behind when sticking onto a wall? I only need to do a pipe boxing in the corner. Can grip Fill be used to place it on?
Do you leave a 1/8 inch expansion gap if installing on tub souround
Can a bath fitter go over that wedi board or do I just use plywood at that point?
Is there a reason you don’t use the tape?
Wish you would show pulling out those tight dry fit panels
I was thinking the mixing valve collar went the larger side in the hole-can you confirm?
we add the Flexi Collar so the thicker side faces outward and can be trimmed to fit the tile
He installed it wrong. The larger side goes into the wall. The thin side is out.
Hey guys, great videos. Have you used the Wedi butyl tub seal yet? It appears it is to seal a drop in tub without a flange, when the tub is actually placed against a wall or into an alcove. Any advice would be helpful!
It’s about 10-12 inches up from the pan you put your first screw otherwise you void the wedi warranty.
How thick is that wedi board?
Can I use formica laminate sheets with the wedi board instead of tiles? I would think so but you’d probably have to use an epoxy or something similar to make it adhere to it. Please let me know because it’s what I have already. Thanks and awesome educational video! Keep up the good work.
Please do not.
Can you wet shim wedi board to bring the walls flat, plumb, and square ( and stay in wedi warranty )? I know you can do that for kerdi board and stay in warranty, but I can't find any documentation for wedi board.
Do you still use the Wedi system? Thanks!
I used one of these flexi collars around my shower head pipe. If I need to change my shower heat pipe. Can I remove it from the collar/flange and reinstall the new shower head pipe thru the collar - and it will still be water proof?
yes, it might be a little tight but you should be able to do that
What brand of sealent are you using?
When you do board a wedi board all on the floor, can you still use uncoupling as a layer on top before you tile?
Why would you? Just tile directly to the wedi board .. it has a good texture to tile to
I made a mistake and put a 3/4 hole in one of the wallboards in the wrong place. How can I seal the hole?
You could fill in the hole with the piece you cut out or anther same size piece and seal it like you would other joints with Wedi sealant. The store I bought from said the sealant is extremely waterproof. Any joint will be waterproof if sealed with the sealant.
Great video. About to install my system. What exactly is the power tool you are using to make the delicate cuts - like cutting the wood for the custom shampoo box?
It’s called an oscillating tool !
Yep- according wedi, you installed the valve collar backwards- other than that, fine job
Why do every kit comes with round once my shower valve is square
What u put on floor brother
Quality doesn’t seem to be a priority. That guy was in a rush.
Great video! Steve looks super skillful! I like everything about the wedi system but how do you install a frameless shower enclosure and attach to wedi foam curbs? I haven't seen any useful hints how this should be done. Foam is weak for drilling into and many frameless enclosures have brackets that need to be screwed into the base. Any hints or ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
we get this question a lot, the most ideal situation is to add 2x4 blocking in the stud wall before adding Wedi backer boards. Place the extra 2x4s in the position where the shower door or glass will be located. Then, and this isn't perfect, add glass u-channel by drilling through the tile/Wedi and anchoring it into the studs. Apply 100% silicone in the screw holes, bottom of u-channel, and side of u-channel in the shower. Support bars can be used to stabilize large glass panels and they need to be factored into the glass planning phase as well as the shower surround.
@@HomeRepairTutor Thanks! How would you attach the brackets that sit on the curb below the glass panels? The curbs seem too tall for screws to work.
Who sells Wedi in Pittsburgh area? Thanks
Any luck here other than Tile Shop and custom order to Lowes?
Car you use a waterproof like redgard over this
good question JM, it’s not necessary to use RedGard over Wedi because the foam core is waterproof, you just need to waterproof the screws and seams with Wedi Joint Sealant
im in need of some my shower bench is leaking water
I noticed Steve did not make a dado cut to receive the wall boards on the Wedi board for the top of the bench seat. Any particular reason why?
It's not necessary and was treated like two boards butting against each other, adding sealant at the board intersection and a second layer overlapping is sufficient
Next time im knocking a brick wall down in the backyard, i will give you a call
why no cement on the studds before screwing
Wet shimming was unnecessary, all studs were plumb and even
not referring to wet shimming why not glue to studs instead of screwing Much like using Liquid NAIL WITH PANELING
Shouldn't use concrete directly on wood.... contraction and expansion will crack the concrete
@@69derfy because its held on with screws.....and sealant between the joints. Its not coming off with those giant washers.
WHY NO JOINTING TAPE OVER THE JOINTS?
I believe the wedi brand sealant/caulk that is used is meant to work in place of tape. I used this method on my custom shower install 4 years ago and have not had a problem with leaks.
Wedi still not convinced on this system, those small adhesive lap joints make me feel uncomfortable. and the foam board, because it has the ability to compress, unlike the old conventional system,thoe little over time will fatigue and fail eventually even conventional systems especially with water intrusion through the grout and mortar bed if they have fatigue. The alleged benefits of the Wedi system are not enough to get me to change from the old tried and true system. I have demoed quite a few houses that were 75 to 80 years old and the showers even with broken tiles cracked mortar still held up no leaks, hot-mop on tin pans or mortar, or even lead pans lasted.
this shower leaked before it was ever used
I can do the same thing with backerboad & red guard & spend way less money
RedGard and CBU is a good option. The only issues are ease of use for the CBU, it taking an extra day for the seams (alkali tape/mortar drying), and warranty.
cutting cement boards and breathing that dust while handling the sheets well worth extra 35$ per panel.
valpanig Especially nowadays when you cannot buy a silica mask for love nor money!
I think your video "record player" is skipping a little too much...must be a scratch in the vinyl...=p Great video otherwise! Steve needs gloves for that sealant!
Lol, ya the screw installation was quick. Didn’t want to skip those steps. Which gloves do you like best for waterproofing?
@@HomeRepairTutor what kind of sealant is that?
@@HomeRepairTutor
Dude!
Raven Powder-Free Disposable Black Nitrile 6 Mil Gloves, Large
I don't see vacuuming the joint I use all time 😂
"it really not going to matter " is something the homeowner doesn't want to continuously hear.🤔
well to bad, because if the homeowner knew what they were doing, they wouldnt of hired someone who knows when something matters....
I wasnt a fan of this video details matter folks the fasteners all willy nilly maybe its just me but The fasteners not being straight and kind of random made me cringe sure you wont see them behind the tile but this is the difference between a professional install and a diy or a contractor that doesn’t care for me when you use words like “about 10” which is it is it 10 or 10 and a 1/16 or is it 9 an 15/16”??? I didn’t like the niche either it’s too narrow and probably will be a b&tch to tile and just an awkward size and location I didn’t like how he just scabbed peices In and dropping and stepong on fasteners it’s great the product is forgiving but folks again you want a contractor that is carful so punctures don’t happen in the first place yes time is money but I don’t think you need to go warp speed either take your time put out quality other wise the install was “okayish”
Also don’t be afraid to bust out a shop vac and vacuum the wall cavity before putting a panel in it’s all the small things that add up people
Overkill.
Sure, you can do a real fast+easy shower install then breathe in the mold that grows behind the tiles for the next 20 years lol
Looks like a big mess to me.