Hello WikeyWikey, and welcome. Thankyou for the compliment 👍. Currently working on an episode that the channel subscribers have asked for... several times. Dynamic ESA explanations. Best wishes Carl
Very informative videos thank you. I’ve recently purchased the same bike and you have saved me lots of time searching for parts and also saved me a shed load of money. Keep the great vids coming 👍
Hi Paul, thank you for the compliment, glad the series seems to be helping other owners, and congratulations on your new bike. Adding accessories is a lot of fun....😊 Best wishes Carl
Hi Bradley and welcome to the channel, glad this episode helped you, that's all I really hope to achieve with the channel, and sharing my passion for all things motorbike. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis I enjoy your videos and I plan to watch many of them. I have ridden motorcycles for a long time but am new to ADV bikes. Day trips, longer touring and the variety of great places I could go appeals to me. I am planning to purchase a BMW 1250 GS soon.
Hi Bradley, I was totally shocked how good the GS is for many reasons, hence I changed bikes, so I hope you also have the opportunity to experience GS and its many capabilities. Best wishes Carl
Couldnt agree more about the plastic topbox mount, bought a Honda Crosstourer few years ago and specd it with ful Givi luggage, came with the plastic plate. Binned it and bought the aluminium one. Now have the black on on myTriple Black GS. Also agree with quality of Givi stuff. Had it for years and never let me down.
Hi Hartley and welcome, thank you for sharing I'm sure it will help other owners. I can imagine the black rack looks great on the triple black, and as you have found the Givi top boxes are good quality. Best wishes Carl
Hi Fella. Really have enjoyed your vids on the GS with all the accessories etc. Just moved to Scotland where the roads are brilliant and intend to buy a GSA in the very near future and your findings and advice are a great help. Want a 1250 but funds look like it will have to be a 1200 and cant wait to start getting the accessories. Best and keep safe, Old Bloke.
Hello Old Bloke and welcome to the channel, pleased to hear you are enjoying the series, the 1250 is expensive but if you could find a good 1200 your be very happy I'm sure, the older 1200 rallye with the blue frame looks fantastic I think they were 2017 ish, and I almost bought one. Do let me know what you finally buy and enjoy the empty roads in Scotland... Best wishes Carl
That's why i went for the GIVI TREKKER CASE 58L TOP BOX CASE can fit 2 x shoei neo tech helmets and a bit more in that and it's metal like the panniers.
I've tried both the Givi racks but found they interfered with the pillion space (even though my wife is of a relatively small stature and very slim) so then went for a Cymarc plate which moves the rack back 20mm or so which made loads of difference but the box when fully loaded bounced around along with the rack to a worrying amount. So in the end I fitted an Altrider rack (similar to the alloy Givi item) and moved the pillion saddle to the forward position. This seems to be the best compromise. On my previous 1250GS I had a vario box and rack which was really good but too square in its shape and of course, we could only fit one helmet in it. A foot note I see you have a Q-Bag below your rack, only have it fitted when you need it or make sure you've got paint protection on the silver plastic deck underneath as mine took all the paint off and made a right mess.
Hi Darren thankyou for sharing your thoughts on topbox options and mounting options, a lot of owners are not really aware the passenger seat has two positions, so your comments will help others. I will check my Qbag tomorrow and see if it has damaged the paint work. Thankyou 👍Carl
Detailed as always. Top case very matched with the gsa's angles , but i will suggest you to add the stop lights, it will look even better and the braking will be more distinct. I have also add them on my givi e55 maxia
Thank you, I was indeed going to do this, but unless I am mistaken its currently not allowed here in Germany. It was actually Givi that told me i could not purchase them if I lived in Germany. Which is a shame as you are right... they look nice. Carl
I am looking to replace my Vario topbox for something larger but was concerned that it may cause buffeting or weaving, so good to know it doesn't, I am surprised you didnt have a problem with it fully loaded with the weight all being behind the rear wheel spindle! Look forward to seeing the trip to Norway.
I´ve gone with Shad top boxes following a series of leakage issues with Givi in Scotland where the rain is penetratingly high speed and horizontal. The GIVI tunnel bag looks neat and I like your mounting solution...I may give it a try. TTFN N
Hi Nick and welcome. Sorry to hear you had leaking issues with the Givi, perhaps I have been lucky with the V47, but its been 100% ok for me even during long days in the rain. The tunnel bag is great and its been a great addition and very well made apart from the rain cover... which the supplying dealer has agreed to replace for free. Best wishes Carl
I too have the R1250GS in Triple Black, I had concerns for the factory rear rack. It's a cantilevered design made of polymer (plastic) with metal inserts at the bolt attachments. The supports under the rear rack are soft plastic (?). I have the GIVI hard cases. If you can find one, SW-Motech makes a metal support that adds to the soft support under the rack.
Hi Rik, thank you for sharing your experience, I'm sure it will help other owners find the perfect solution. Hope your enjoying your Sunday. Best wishes Carl
2015 R1200GSA LC... More on this bike I picked up a while back, it also came with the aluminum box-style, Kappa (a Givi company) K-Venture 58 litre (PN KVE58A) monster top case (the Givi branded one is the Trekker Outback 58 and is effectively the same box) . This sucker holds 2 of the Arai XD-4/XD4 easily, but I very rarely use the top case solo as I don't like the change in balance and they look ugly. I prefer my side cases for everyday use. The top case is useful when riding dual or fully loaded as weight/balance is somewhat negated and with the big aluminum box, the extra large back pads (Givi PN 172) provide a nice backrest for your pillion. With this style, you cannot lock your keys in the box. The rear rack I've got is a PN SRA5112 and is basically the same as yours, minor cutout design differences and is actually a very practical & secure mounting for the top case. For those reading here if you're new to this, be aware if you use a top case and ride solo, don't over load/weight them, they will change the handling characteristics of your bike, the most immediate one is making your front end too light.
Hi D.A, thank you for sharing your experience so I.. and other owners can benefit. On tour my rear topbox was indeed heavy and you sure can feel it, but the suspension preload set to AUTO did a really good job. But I was aware of the extra weight way way back. Enjoy your new bike Carl
Thank you for the video. But this time I have a different opinion. The Givi Topcase can indeed hold 2 helmets and is cheap. It may contain a maximum of 10 kg. And that is probably exceeded quickly with the capacity. Also regarding the recommended maximum speed I have found nothing. Thus, I assume a maximum of 130 km / h. Like pretty much all other sets on the market. But at the size and higher speed - I do not know 😬. Nevertheless, I have decided for the sw-motech adventure set. It may not contain 2 helmets, but I am so excited! Quality, optics and ultimately capacity with the side cases is gigantic. And still expandable! A helmet in the top case and the second helmet by metal cable (Wunderlich) firmly lashed. Or both helmets so lashed and the space in the top case otherwise used. It is indeed more expensive but it is also worth it. In my eyes...
Hi Thilo... good morning, your solution sounds great and I imagine it looks much better than what I have decided to use. If I was going to go on tour more often or... greater distances I would probably make a different decision. Thankyou for sharing I am sure other owners will read your suggestion. 👍 best wishes Carl
Hi Carl, I've just sold my V47NNT, as I couldn't fit 2 x flip front helmets (one size L + one size XS) in at the same time. I have an R1250 GSA and decided to move to the Givi Trekker Outback 58L top box. I also bought the Aluminium Givi GS Monokey base when I bought my V47NNT as it is definitely better quality than the crappy ABS plastic one (and it looks waaay better). If you ever decide to switch to Flip-Front helmets, just bear in mind the V47 wont be large enough!
Hi Carl, I've watched most of your GS videos and found them very enjoyable and informative, particularly as I've just taken delivery of a 1250GS too! I might have missed it but can't find a reference to your screen extension/spoiler, I think I need one too to reduce some buffeting. Thanks for the excellent content! Ride safely, Mike.
Hi Mike, thank you for your feedback 👍. I am going to do a end of year round up soon, and I'll talk about that too. It's been brilliant that little screen. It's an MRA Xscreen and definitely removed most of the noise and buffering. Best wishes Carl
I've just watched your video on the Givi Top Box. I had exactly the same box on my 1200GS. I have a 1200GSA now. You commented that the box was difficult to take off and carry with your big hands. I found that it was far easier to pack everything into a soft bag and put that into the Givi. When you go into the hotel overnight all you have to do then is lift and carry the soft bag leaving the Top Box on the bike. I found that to far easier the taking the whole box into the hotel with you.
Hi John and welcome to the channel, thank you for your suggestion I have been looking for a givi bag but I don’t think they make one. Your idea is a good one, thank you 🙏 Carl
@@justthewayitis I just used an existing soft bag I use when travelling on the bike or in the car. My friend uses an old BMW pannier liner from when he had an 100 RT. Both work well and didn't require any additional purchases. Just a thought for whatever Top Box/Pannier brand you have on whatever bike you are riding at the time.
Greetings Carl! thanks for showing this V47NNT. i bought it from FC-Moto for $203 USD and that comes with Express shipping! and the mount SRA5138B cost $125 USD from Carpi Moto. very cheap price compare here in US like Revzilla! i got the mount and yes its beautifully made.
@@justthewayitis i find the backrest to be useless from my other top box as my wife is already wearing back protector with her jacket. and also, the back protector tend to be putting the passenger more upright instead of supposed to be relaxing. cant wait for your other videos!
Really enjoying your content. Have you considered coding your Givi box to your bema key? I ordered a second givi barrel and altered it to suit my bema key. Only thing is you have to file a bit as the bema key is wider. Mine works well. Couple times I was caught at the shops without the givi key.
Hello Emsill63, yes I would love to review some different seats, but finding suppliers who will send me them to test is not easy. I would like to test three seats together... 1: Wunderlich 2: Touratech 3: Sargent This would be ideal... If I can arrange it I will let you know. Carl
I am currently looking to change my 0EM seat & i’m looking at the 3 main Big suppliers ie…. sergeant, Touratech & Wunderlich, There are so many conflicting reviews it needs someone like yourself to do an independent non-bias review on all 3 👍
Hi Carl, Have you posted your review of the Michelin Anakee Adventure tyres yet and if so, where can I find it? If not, when do you think you will? Also I am curious to know which road tyre you would fit as a replacement? Perhaps their newest, the Road 6? Or a different make?
Hello Alexander the Anakee review is on my list, as are the next set of tyres. More information to come in a later episode. Currently just finishing the editing for the lights upgrade episode. Best wishes Carl
Carl, I notice you have a QBag under the rear rack/ above the rear light. What’s your opinion of that bag and why did you choose it rather than the Chinese versions off eBay to “ match” the small side bags? By the way another informative video, keep them coming please 🙏
Hi Nigel, well having bought and used other Qbag products I have always been pleased with their valve vs quality so I decided to try another one from them. And its been great and looks good too. Carl
@@justthewayitisAgreed, it looks good Carl and really not more expensive that unknown qualities from China - good choice I think I will follow your lead on this.
I have GIVI Monokey Plate/Rack SRA5117 on my R1250R -----it says max weight 6Kg --does yours say the same? once you include the weight of the box that doesn't leave much to put in.
@@justthewayitis Thanks for the reply ---just appears it only made for very light stuff------funny the box has a max of 10KG but the rack has 6KG.Great videos keep them coming ;-)The box is 2.3kg that leaves 3.7kg to put in the box. :-(.
You can indeed lock the key in the topbox (mine is a Maxia 55L). It can ruin your day (at the very least one, and possibly even your marriage.) Worth knowing: if this happens to you, hard to believe this, but it is possible to get a tyre iron, small jemi or piece of wood up inside the lip of the clam shell on the side and lever open a gap big enough to poke things out through. The plastic is much more flexible than you might think - and what have you got to lose? The case and lock is admirably indestructible. If this fails - perhaps your keys are inside something bigger in the box - then you are going to need an angle grinder.
Hello DB1956 and welcome to the channel. Thankyou for sharing it sounds like you were lucky to get your key out, well done 😏. Hopefully other owners will take note and keep the spare somewhere handy. Best wishes Carl
My 2021 model, was a straight forward mounting of the Givi rack, if you have a different OEM rack you may did extra work. But mine went straight on in 10 mins
I had a givi v47, but I did not like it at all. I can not place in one helmet sometime, I had to get off everything put the helmet in, then took back my stuff. Then I bought a givi 58 l alu top case, it is way better, much bigger.
Hi Carl. I have the same bike - same year and also the rally spec but I have the pannier mounting racks installed. The Givi mounting plates dont line up for my bike. Not sure how I’m going to resolve this. I’m going to get in touch with Givi to see if they have any solutions for me. Please be aware of this and inform others so they don’t make the same mistake. I have taken pictures if you would like me to share those with you?
Hi Mark, do you have the same Givi top plate as me (SRA5108) or something different? I presume you have a GS and not the GSA... Let me know Regards Carl
Hi Carl. I have now done further investigation. As I have the rally top rack and side pannier racks, which are not the same as the one on your bike, unfortunately the Givi rack cannot be installed. I would need to purchase the same rear rack as yours ($AU 690)before it will all fit together. Givi’s literature does not specify any of this. I had to go into my local BMW dealer to establish this. Just waiting to hear what the local distributor I purchased the gear from and Givi Australia come back to me with.
Also I have exactly the same gear as you have because I used the part nos you supplied. I have the R1250 GS Rallye ‘22 build. Not having a go at you at all. Just providing feedback because I know you would be interested.
Hi Mark, good morning. it sounds like you have had to do lots of your own research to find a solution that works for your bike/rack configuration. Like you say it's a shame Givi dont make it easy to understand what is needed. I hope Givi help you out a little with the plate you need. Carl
Hi Mark, I think its great you are sharing your experience because it will help other owners that have the same configuration as you, and probably save them a lot of time trying to figure out what to buy and what to install. Thankyou Carl
Hi Marco...... LOL.... yes indeed, i once dropped my wife off for an appointment (she had the BMW key in her jacket) i then drove to a park to enjoy the afternoon and wait .... and then had to ring her and ask someone to bring her back to me. DDDdhhh. We all make mistakes. thankyou for sharing, Carl
Hi Fella. Really have enjoyed your vids on the GS with all the accessories etc. Just moved to Scotland where the roads are brilliant and intend to buy a GSA in the very near future and your findings and advice are a great help. Want a 1250 but funds look like it will have to be a 1200 and cant wait to start getting the accessories. Best and keep safe, Old Bloke.
Hello Old Bloke, and welcome to the channel, pleased to hear you are enjoying the series. the 1250 is expensive but if you could find a good 1200 I am sure you will be very happy. The slightly older 1200 Rallye with the blue frame looks stunning (2017 I think), and I was looking at one of these before purchasing the 2022 version. Let me know what you decide to buy and enjoy those lovely empty roads in Scotland. Best Wishes Carl
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Great, as usual !
Thx a lot from France.
Hi Stephane... thankyou. Have a good weekend 👍 when it arrives tomorrow evening... smile
just a wealth of information ,i really appreciate what your doing its a huge help.
Hello WikeyWikey, and welcome. Thankyou for the compliment 👍. Currently working on an episode that the channel subscribers have asked for... several times. Dynamic ESA explanations. Best wishes Carl
Brilliant…you hit all the important points. Exactly what I am looking for. Thank you for the info, very helpful!
Hi JVL, your very welcome 🙏
Welcome back! Thanks for the review and feedback
Your very welcome Lionel 👍
Very informative videos thank you. I’ve recently purchased the same bike and you have saved me lots of time searching for parts and also saved me a shed load of money. Keep the great vids coming 👍
Hi Paul, thank you for the compliment, glad the series seems to be helping other owners, and congratulations on your new bike. Adding accessories is a lot of fun....😊
Best wishes Carl
Well done Carl I look forward to the next videos as I am moving from a41 to pr6
Hi Andrew, please if you time after you fit your new tyres let me and the others know what you think. I'm still undecided 😏. Best wishes Carl
My bike is the same as Carls. The need to streamline any GS for speed made me smile, I have a 52l Givi Trekker topbox.
Hi Nick, smile.... well perhaps just a little better. Have a good weekend. Carl
Good information on something I need. Very helpful.
Hi Bradley and welcome to the channel, glad this episode helped you, that's all I really hope to achieve with the channel, and sharing my passion for all things motorbike.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis I enjoy your videos and I plan to watch many of them. I have ridden motorcycles for a long time but am new to ADV bikes. Day trips, longer touring and the variety of great places I could go appeals to me. I am planning to purchase a BMW 1250 GS soon.
Hi Bradley, I was totally shocked how good the GS is for many reasons, hence I changed bikes, so I hope you also have the opportunity to experience GS and its many capabilities. Best wishes Carl
Couldnt agree more about the plastic topbox mount, bought a Honda Crosstourer few years ago and specd it with ful Givi luggage, came with the plastic plate. Binned it and bought the aluminium one. Now have the black on on myTriple Black GS. Also agree with quality of Givi stuff. Had it for years and never let me down.
Hi Hartley and welcome, thank you for sharing I'm sure it will help other owners. I can imagine the black rack looks great on the triple black, and as you have found the Givi top boxes are good quality.
Best wishes Carl
Hi Fella. Really have enjoyed your vids on the GS with all the accessories etc. Just moved to Scotland where the roads are brilliant and intend to buy a GSA in the very near future and your findings and advice are a great help. Want a 1250 but funds look like it will have to be a 1200 and cant wait to start getting the accessories. Best and keep safe, Old Bloke.
Hello Old Bloke and welcome to the channel, pleased to hear you are enjoying the series, the 1250 is expensive but if you could find a good 1200 your be very happy I'm sure, the older 1200 rallye with the blue frame looks fantastic I think they were 2017 ish, and I almost bought one. Do let me know what you finally buy and enjoy the empty roads in Scotland...
Best wishes Carl
That's why i went for the GIVI TREKKER CASE 58L TOP BOX CASE can fit 2 x shoei neo tech helmets and a bit more in that and it's metal like the panniers.
I've tried both the Givi racks but found they interfered with the pillion space (even though my wife is of a relatively small stature and very slim) so then went for a Cymarc plate which moves the rack back 20mm or so which made loads of difference but the box when fully loaded bounced around along with the rack to a worrying amount. So in the end I fitted an Altrider rack (similar to the alloy Givi item) and moved the pillion saddle to the forward position. This seems to be the best compromise. On my previous 1250GS I had a vario box and rack which was really good but too square in its shape and of course, we could only fit one helmet in it. A foot note I see you have a Q-Bag below your rack, only have it fitted when you need it or make sure you've got paint protection on the silver plastic deck underneath as mine took all the paint off and made a right mess.
Hi Darren thankyou for sharing your thoughts on topbox options and mounting options, a lot of owners are not really aware the passenger seat has two positions, so your comments will help others. I will check my Qbag tomorrow and see if it has damaged the paint work. Thankyou 👍Carl
Detailed as always. Top case very matched with the gsa's angles , but i will suggest you to add the stop lights, it will look even better and the braking will be more distinct. I have also add them on my givi e55 maxia
Thank you, I was indeed going to do this, but unless I am mistaken its currently not allowed here in Germany. It was actually Givi that told me i could not purchase them if I lived in Germany. Which is a shame as you are right... they look nice.
Carl
I am looking to replace my Vario topbox for something larger but was concerned that it may cause buffeting or weaving, so good to know it doesn't, I am surprised you didnt have a problem with it fully loaded with the weight all being behind the rear wheel spindle! Look forward to seeing the trip to Norway.
Hi MK, yes the AUTO preload does a good job. I had no issues with the weight over the rear. Yes you can feel it in the curves but it felt stable. Carl
I´ve gone with Shad top boxes following a series of leakage issues with Givi in Scotland where the rain is penetratingly high speed and horizontal.
The GIVI tunnel bag looks neat and I like your mounting solution...I may give it a try.
TTFN
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Hi Nick and welcome. Sorry to hear you had leaking issues with the Givi, perhaps I have been lucky with the V47, but its been 100% ok for me even during long days in the rain. The tunnel bag is great and its been a great addition and very well made apart from the rain cover... which the supplying dealer has agreed to replace for free.
Best wishes Carl
I too have the R1250GS in Triple Black, I had concerns for the factory rear rack. It's a cantilevered design made of polymer (plastic) with metal inserts at the bolt attachments. The supports under the rear rack are soft plastic (?). I have the GIVI hard cases. If you can find one, SW-Motech makes a metal support that adds to the soft support under the rack.
Hi Rik, thank you for sharing your experience, I'm sure it will help other owners find the perfect solution.
Hope your enjoying your Sunday. Best wishes Carl
2015 R1200GSA LC... More on this bike I picked up a while back, it also came with the aluminum box-style, Kappa (a Givi company) K-Venture 58 litre (PN KVE58A) monster top case (the Givi branded one is the Trekker Outback 58 and is effectively the same box) . This sucker holds 2 of the Arai XD-4/XD4 easily, but I very rarely use the top case solo as I don't like the change in balance and they look ugly. I prefer my side cases for everyday use. The top case is useful when riding dual or fully loaded as weight/balance is somewhat negated and with the big aluminum box, the extra large back pads (Givi PN 172) provide a nice backrest for your pillion. With this style, you cannot lock your keys in the box. The rear rack I've got is a PN SRA5112 and is basically the same as yours, minor cutout design differences and is actually a very practical & secure mounting for the top case. For those reading here if you're new to this, be aware if you use a top case and ride solo, don't over load/weight them, they will change the handling characteristics of your bike, the most immediate one is making your front end too light.
Hi D.A, thank you for sharing your experience so I.. and other owners can benefit. On tour my rear topbox was indeed heavy and you sure can feel it, but the suspension preload set to AUTO did a really good job. But I was aware of the extra weight way way back.
Enjoy your new bike
Carl
Thank you for the video.
But this time I have a different opinion. The Givi Topcase can indeed hold 2 helmets and is cheap.
It may contain a maximum of 10 kg. And that is probably exceeded quickly with the capacity. Also regarding the recommended maximum speed I have found nothing. Thus, I assume a maximum of 130 km / h. Like pretty much all other sets on the market. But at the size and higher speed - I do not know 😬.
Nevertheless, I have decided for the sw-motech adventure set. It may not contain 2 helmets, but I am so excited! Quality, optics and ultimately capacity with the side cases is gigantic. And still expandable!
A helmet in the top case and the second helmet by metal cable (Wunderlich) firmly lashed. Or both helmets so lashed and the space in the top case otherwise used.
It is indeed more expensive but it is also worth it. In my eyes...
Hi Thilo... good morning, your solution sounds great and I imagine it looks much better than what I have decided to use. If I was going to go on tour more often or... greater distances I would probably make a different decision. Thankyou for sharing I am sure other owners will read your suggestion.
👍 best wishes Carl
Hi Carl,
Great review again and much food for thought. What about the personal kit you wear...what about a review of your favourite kit?
Hi Submann, it's on my (to do list) so perhaps as autumn arrives I will do this. Thankyou for reminding me 👍Carl
Hi Carl, I've just sold my V47NNT, as I couldn't fit 2 x flip front helmets (one size L + one size XS) in at the same time. I have an R1250 GSA and decided to move to the Givi Trekker Outback 58L top box. I also bought the Aluminium Givi GS Monokey base when I bought my V47NNT as it is definitely better quality than the crappy ABS plastic one (and it looks waaay better). If you ever decide to switch to Flip-Front helmets, just bear in mind the V47 wont be large enough!
Hi Haydon, thank you for sharing this, several guys in the club use the flip helmets so it's good to know.
Thankyou and best wishes Carl
Hi Carl, I've watched most of your GS videos and found them very enjoyable and informative, particularly as I've just taken delivery of a 1250GS too! I might have missed it but can't find a reference to your screen extension/spoiler, I think I need one too to reduce some buffeting. Thanks for the excellent content! Ride safely, Mike.
Hi Mike, thank you for your feedback 👍. I am going to do a end of year round up soon, and I'll talk about that too. It's been brilliant that little screen. It's an MRA Xscreen and definitely removed most of the noise and buffering. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl 👍
Your welcome Mike 😊
I've just watched your video on the Givi Top Box. I had exactly the same box on my 1200GS. I have a 1200GSA now. You commented that the box was difficult to take off and carry with your big hands. I found that it was far easier to pack everything into a soft bag and put that into the Givi. When you go into the hotel overnight all you have to do then is lift and carry the soft bag leaving the Top Box on the bike. I found that to far easier the taking the whole box into the hotel with you.
Hi John and welcome to the channel, thank you for your suggestion I have been looking for a givi bag but I don’t think they make one. Your idea is a good one, thank you 🙏 Carl
@@justthewayitis I just used an existing soft bag I use when travelling on the bike or in the car. My friend uses an old BMW pannier liner from when he had an 100 RT. Both work well and didn't require any additional purchases. Just a thought for whatever Top Box/Pannier brand you have on whatever bike you are riding at the time.
Thank you 👌
Greetings Carl! thanks for showing this V47NNT. i bought it from FC-Moto for $203 USD and that comes with Express shipping! and the mount SRA5138B cost $125 USD from Carpi Moto. very cheap price compare here in US like Revzilla! i got the mount and yes its beautifully made.
Hi Ad78, that's a great price, well done 👍 I have been very happy with the setup.
@@justthewayitis i find the backrest to be useless from my other top box as my wife is already wearing back protector with her jacket. and also, the back protector tend to be putting the passenger more upright instead of supposed to be relaxing. cant wait for your other videos!
Thank you 😊
Really enjoying your content. Have you considered coding your Givi box to your bema key? I ordered a second givi barrel and altered it to suit my bema key. Only thing is you have to file a bit as the bema key is wider. Mine works well. Couple times I was caught at the shops without the givi key.
Hi Dan and welcome to the channel, that’s a great idea thank you 🙏 and I will order one and see how it works
Brilliant suggestion thank you Carl
Hi Carl …. Really enjoying your detailed videos 👍….. have you got any plans to do reviews on the aftermarket seats available for the GS/GSA
Hello Emsill63, yes I would love to review some different seats, but finding suppliers who will send me them to test is not easy.
I would like to test three seats together...
1: Wunderlich
2: Touratech
3: Sargent
This would be ideal...
If I can arrange it I will let you know.
Carl
I am currently looking to change my 0EM seat & i’m looking at the 3 main Big suppliers ie…. sergeant, Touratech & Wunderlich, There are so many conflicting reviews it needs someone like yourself to do an independent non-bias review on all 3 👍
🤣🤣 Ditto 👍
Hi Carl, Have you posted your review of the Michelin Anakee Adventure tyres yet and if so, where can I find it? If not, when do you think you will? Also I am curious to know which road tyre you would fit as a replacement? Perhaps their newest, the Road 6? Or a different make?
Hello Alexander the Anakee review is on my list, as are the next set of tyres. More information to come in a later episode. Currently just finishing the editing for the lights upgrade episode. Best wishes Carl
Ok, thnx. I just bought a 2021 GS-A with Anakees and will have to get a new set in about 2 - 3k kms. That's why I'm curious to find out your opinion.
have you checked the SHAD Terra 55? this is a very good top quality top-case, in MHO way better than givi in many aspects
Thank you for sharing Kostas, 👍
Welcome to the channel
Regards Carl
Carl, I notice you have a QBag under the rear rack/ above the rear light. What’s your opinion of that bag and why did you choose it rather than the Chinese versions off eBay to “ match” the small side bags?
By the way another informative video, keep them coming please 🙏
Hi Nigel, well having bought and used other Qbag products I have always been pleased with their valve vs quality so I decided to try another one from them. And its been great and looks good too. Carl
@@justthewayitisAgreed, it looks good Carl and really not more expensive that unknown qualities from China - good choice I think I will follow your lead on this.
And Amazon have them for a very good price... smile 😏
I have GIVI Monokey Plate/Rack SRA5117 on my R1250R -----it says max weight 6Kg --does yours say the same? once you include the weight of the box that doesn't leave much to put in.
Hi Jet, yes that's normal, I do put more in than that though. Welcome to the channel Jet. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks for the reply ---just appears it only made for very light stuff------funny the box has a max of 10KG but the rack has 6KG.Great videos keep them coming ;-)The box is 2.3kg that leaves 3.7kg to put in the box. :-(.
Yes it does seem strange, I definitely put more in than 3.2kg … smile
Best wishes Carl
You can indeed lock the key in the topbox (mine is a Maxia 55L). It can ruin your day (at the very least one, and possibly even your marriage.) Worth knowing: if this happens to you, hard to believe this, but it is possible to get a tyre iron, small jemi or piece of wood up inside the lip of the clam shell on the side and lever open a gap big enough to poke things out through. The plastic is much more flexible than you might think - and what have you got to lose? The case and lock is admirably indestructible. If this fails - perhaps your keys are inside something bigger in the box - then you are going to need an angle grinder.
Hello DB1956 and welcome to the channel. Thankyou for sharing it sounds like you were lucky to get your key out, well done 😏. Hopefully other owners will take note and keep the spare somewhere handy.
Best wishes Carl
Hi , good video , I have a vario top box , does a plate that you fitted for the givi top box , fit straight on , please
Hi, if you want to mount a Givi top box you must also mount a new mounting plate.
In the video I give you the part numbers you will need
Carl
Yes I orded that aswell , does it fit straight on or do I have to take off the Vario fitting, hope I'm making sense
My 2021 model, was a straight forward mounting of the Givi rack, if you have a different OEM rack you may did extra work.
But mine went straight on in 10 mins
ok thanks 😊
hi i have a question here i got one kappa 58L model year 2020. my base plate was for yahama, what model of steel base plate for GSA rack? thanks
Hi Mike, honestly I don't know, perhaps give them a call ask for the correct part number they are normally very friendly
@@justthewayitis thks. i found it , SRA5112 base plate for GSA rack
Excellent, you might be able to get that in silver or black ?
@@justthewayitis silver
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10:38 why Givi changed this compared to the V46. Shame… 😅
Yes....agreed
I had a givi v47, but I did not like it at all. I can not place in one helmet sometime, I had to get off everything put the helmet in, then took back my stuff. Then I bought a givi 58 l alu top case, it is way better, much bigger.
Hello El Don, thank you, several owners have recommended the 58L version is very good. Perhaps I will try this.
Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl. I have the same bike - same year and also the rally spec but I have the pannier mounting racks installed. The Givi mounting plates dont line up for my bike. Not sure how I’m going to resolve this. I’m going to get in touch with Givi to see if they have any solutions for me. Please be aware of this and inform others so they don’t make the same mistake. I have taken pictures if you would like me to share those with you?
Hi Mark, do you have the same Givi top plate as me (SRA5108) or something different?
I presume you have a GS and not the GSA...
Let me know
Regards Carl
Hi Carl. I have now done further investigation. As I have the rally top rack and side pannier racks, which are not the same as the one on your bike, unfortunately the Givi rack cannot be installed. I would need to purchase the same rear rack as yours ($AU 690)before it will all fit together. Givi’s literature does not specify any of this. I had to go into my local BMW dealer to establish this. Just waiting to hear what the local distributor I purchased the gear from and Givi Australia come back to me with.
Also I have exactly the same gear as you have because I used the part nos you supplied. I have the R1250 GS Rallye ‘22 build. Not having a go at you at all. Just providing feedback because I know you would be interested.
Hi Mark, good morning. it sounds like you have had to do lots of your own research to find a solution that works for your bike/rack configuration. Like you say it's a shame Givi dont make it easy to understand what is needed. I hope Givi help you out a little with the plate you need. Carl
Hi Mark, I think its great you are sharing your experience because it will help other owners that have the same configuration as you, and probably save them a lot of time trying to figure out what to buy and what to install. Thankyou Carl
Yes Carl my name is William senyshyn United States
Hi William and hello, welcome to the channel and thank you for saying hello. Hope you are enjoying the series. Carl
Its definitely possible to lock your key in the top box and then have to ask your wife to drive 75 miles with the spare….a friend told me ;-)
Hi Marco...... LOL.... yes indeed, i once dropped my wife off for an appointment (she had the BMW key in her jacket) i then drove to a park to enjoy the afternoon and wait .... and then had to ring her and ask someone to bring her back to me. DDDdhhh. We all make mistakes. thankyou for sharing, Carl
Givi boxes remind me of a lady's , 1980's , makeup kit.
LOL....thankyou Jim for my afternoon laugh. You are correct...
Carl
Hi Fella. Really have enjoyed your vids on the GS with all the accessories etc. Just moved to Scotland where the roads are brilliant and intend to buy a GSA in the very near future and your findings and advice are a great help. Want a 1250 but funds look like it will have to be a 1200 and cant wait to start getting the accessories. Best and keep safe, Old Bloke.
Hello Old Bloke, and welcome to the channel, pleased to hear you are enjoying the series. the 1250 is expensive but if you could find a good 1200 I am sure you will be very happy. The slightly older 1200 Rallye with the blue frame looks stunning (2017 I think), and I was looking at one of these before purchasing the 2022 version. Let me know what you decide to buy and enjoy those lovely empty roads in Scotland. Best Wishes Carl