Get your money & walk away! - Stephen A. & JJ Redick face off about Kawhi's reliability | First Take

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  • Get your money & walk away! - Stephen A. & JJ Redick face off about Kawhi's reliability | First Take
    On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, JJ Redick and Chris “Mad Dog” Russo talk through the latest from around the NBA Playoffs.
    0:00 Stephen A. questions Kawhi Leonard's reliability
    5:50 Should the Clippers move on from Kawhi?
    7:31 Bigger letdown if the Warriors or Kings lose the series?
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  • @DudeFromCleveland
    @DudeFromCleveland ปีที่แล้ว +1630

    I love when SAS and JJ go at. They both bring the best out of what a sports debate should be

    • @dwightyawg7781
      @dwightyawg7781 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Enjoy it while you can cuz he’s about to get the Kellerman treatment

    • @whatsgood5043
      @whatsgood5043 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol SAS ‘sassy’

    • @DevDemoe
      @DevDemoe ปีที่แล้ว

      💯💯

    • @DevDemoe
      @DevDemoe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwightyawg7781 think so?

    • @Flingoh
      @Flingoh ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@DevDemoe 100% SAS cant take it when someone comes back at him with actual facts, JJ knows how to argue in the right way. People don't give him enough credit

  • @jonaslundholm
    @jonaslundholm ปีที่แล้ว +278

    I love how JJ challenges Stephen A to be more serious. For a while there SAS was entering cartoon territory.

    • @dominoowens5116
      @dominoowens5116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😒

    • @Mook05
      @Mook05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats a defeatist arguement. What does that have to do with the point?

    • @esquivelmarcus
      @esquivelmarcus ปีที่แล้ว +9

      SAS was switching his takes every 5 seconds. Hurt, personality, bring crowds, reliability. Dude is garbage.

    • @squeakyclean7
      @squeakyclean7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂Yes.. i think of it as his wrestling persona

    • @cky7765
      @cky7765 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@esquivelmarcusyet you keep on watching him 🖕

  • @Onthehop08.
    @Onthehop08. ปีที่แล้ว +509

    Now this is how a hot take is supposed to look like! This was great between Stephen A & JJ.

    • @byanasim1026
      @byanasim1026 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Stephen in his feelings let's hope he don't send jj away like max, he can't stand looking bad

    • @lavishlex918
      @lavishlex918 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤯Vibez Felt Like Stephen A. & Skip In 2015 When Seattle Won Da Superbowl 😶‍🌫️

    • @James32324
      @James32324 ปีที่แล้ว

      Incredible take!!!!!

    • @lilholyy
      @lilholyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jj took the L here

    • @THEREALMOEMONEY
      @THEREALMOEMONEY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SAS A CLOWN

  • @TheKiddballer21
    @TheKiddballer21 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I love that ESPN is finally posting full segments instead of the 7 minutes or less thing that they were doing

    • @DaPhantomThief
      @DaPhantomThief ปีที่แล้ว

      Taking leaf out of FS1 book

    • @scrubled6854
      @scrubled6854 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well if they go around 8..10min it's better for them as far as monetization goes lol they def didn't do this for us

  • @kawilui
    @kawilui ปีที่แล้ว +153

    JJ : You haven’t played high level basketball.
    SAS: I start covering basketball since you 8 yrs old.

    • @Vetionarian
      @Vetionarian ปีที่แล้ว +26

      both very good points. this was a solid debate

    • @b.r3228
      @b.r3228 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Playing vs covering are very different

    • @andrewgiegerich8211
      @andrewgiegerich8211 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@b.r3228 basketball is not that hard on your body to the point this is a constant conversation

    • @b.r3228
      @b.r3228 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@andrewgiegerich8211 tell that to Brandon Roy, Greg oden and thousands that had careers cut short or college kids that would have made it to the league but suffered a major injury because "it's not that hard on the body"

    • @albertdaley9093
      @albertdaley9093 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Stpehon still been given out opinions tho not facts jj gave facts tho

  • @tigerhoods7927
    @tigerhoods7927 ปีที่แล้ว +741

    JJ Reddick told Stephen A Smith & Mad dogg “listening to both of you it’s obvious neither of you have never played a high level of basketball” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @730FlightRisk
      @730FlightRisk ปีที่แล้ว +85

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he wasn’t lying

    • @josephgreene4174
      @josephgreene4174 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      What's so hilarious about that? It's obvious they haven't played professionally they are sports casters not athletes.

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam ปีที่แล้ว +118

      JJ Redick has never won a single thing. Never played for a national championship in college, was a non-factor the one time he did play in the NBA Finals, and spent his whole career as a role player when he was drafted to be a starter. Why is he talking about playing at the highest level when he had to be worried about job security throughout his career? You'd think he was a star by the way he runs his mouth sometimes.

    • @ryankayombya7576
      @ryankayombya7576 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      ​@@Zenigundam so?

    • @2pacladen776
      @2pacladen776 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      @@Zenigundam and still played high level basketball that’s the point

  • @damianwashington6072
    @damianwashington6072 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Max is sitting back somewhere sipping his tea ...laughing at Stephan A ....and JJ going at it 😅

    • @thefighter5182
      @thefighter5182 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then Max will completely agree with JJ Redick like he should. 100%

    • @3dknight5
      @3dknight5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max got his own show and hes a commentator for espn when they host basketball game he ain't sitting back nowhere max is working 😂

  • @TheMechwarrior25
    @TheMechwarrior25 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love how they cut off the segment right when JJ Reddick basically said that getting rid of kawaii probably wouldn't change anyway 🤣

    • @junebuggy240
      @junebuggy240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember Jordan Poole got reps and became who he is when minutes were available. It's not always pointless.

    • @WhineyOne
      @WhineyOne ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@junebuggy240 change what?

  • @SojiRo23
    @SojiRo23 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Man this hurts me more than when Brandon Roy went down.

    • @730FlightRisk
      @730FlightRisk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is it the same injury?

    • @doublez_
      @doublez_ ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Wasn’t Kawhi’s prime longer?

    • @SojiRo23
      @SojiRo23 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@730FlightRisk both similar knee injuries.

    • @shaundrahammond3282
      @shaundrahammond3282 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@doublez_ It was, but Brandon Roy was hailed as the second coming in Portland.

    • @AqwDragulum
      @AqwDragulum ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Kawhi was fortunate to play for a decade and get two rings out of it. I wouldn’t mind if he decides to retire now

  • @DavidYangMusic
    @DavidYangMusic ปีที่แล้ว +613

    Im not gonna lie i love JJ but i agree with stephen A on this. I think the last time i felt kawhi’s presence in the NBA was when he went to toronto. Its been a long time since then. Sadly he should consider retirement because of the nagging injuries. Fans who go to clipper games want to see him and i feel like thats a rarity so its not fair for either side.

    • @jianyang9033
      @jianyang9033 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You don’t watch kawhi and media didn’t show him! He plays very year except 2022( torn acl), and he play more than a lot of player KD , Zion and kyrie ..

    • @bryanlayton6400
      @bryanlayton6400 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jianyang9033 if he wasnt out that year they quietly made the final 4 they could have won. those 2 years effected by covid were super weird seasons though.. i feel like covid effected outcomes of both seasons.

    • @robreeto
      @robreeto ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Lucas Walker he want the $$$ though

    • @ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother
      @ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lucas Walker That’s similar to what the 80’s Celtics did with Bill Walton (Who was also injury-prone) at the end of his career.

    • @Neogamingz
      @Neogamingz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guys I thought of something everything has a origin. So aren't we all brother and sisters?

  • @madden226
    @madden226 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Wow this was amazing. I loved every moment between JJ and SAS. Great segment 👏 👍

  • @obikapekele2859
    @obikapekele2859 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “He doesn’t even have something to say anything in his own commercial” 😂

  • @mannedi8665
    @mannedi8665 ปีที่แล้ว +500

    On a business stand point it is really a huge liability. You have 2 players with almost 50M contract but unable to play when you need them esp in the post season. It is also a disservice to the fans who pays top dollar to attend games and not seeing those stars on court. A franchise cannot be held hostage for so long. They can give them one last try next season.

    • @tommytexter4054
      @tommytexter4054 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      No more.

    • @DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi
      @DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi ปีที่แล้ว +34

      No more tries. 3 seasons in a row, same result every time. Clippers got a new stadium being built in Inglewood and they can't build that on the back of injury prone players. It's time to blow this experiment up

    • @benlee4573
      @benlee4573 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I disagree, even with the additions of all these role players, this is a complete waste of time, money, and assets the Clippers organization have invested in for there 2 superstars. What’s the point of paying 2 players massive contracts if they don’t even bother playing? Even Ty Lue is fed up with this bs, you can tell by his emotions from games 3-5. Clippers have a better chance trading away their 2 superstars and probably get a player like Dame, Kyrie, or even Luka! Just imagine the Clippers with Luka! It’s over!!!

    • @adr3naline23
      @adr3naline23 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Kawhi is done , I said this months ago I’m NOT buying a single thing from Kawhi , you guys need to let go

    • @marckusduverger9776
      @marckusduverger9776 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Lucas Walker: Why would the Bucks or Nuggets trade for Kawhi? Cut their depth for a guy who doesn’t play much when they already have an actual shot?

  • @millieatr
    @millieatr ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Love when they keep it real

  • @HCaulfield115
    @HCaulfield115 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Love it when JJ & SAS go back & forth with great points

  • @calebmcleod4089
    @calebmcleod4089 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That initial remark from SAS was very potent. JJ is correct that he has no first person knowledge of the athletic demands of an NBA game, but through the testimony of those who do which can corroborate SAS's position and the varied opinions of players which may conflict with JJ's account he can state his case.

    • @calebmcleod4089
      @calebmcleod4089 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @first nameThat's some huge disrespect to JJ their in my mind. JJ was THE GUY in college and was absolutely transcendent at that moment in a way SAS never was. Also it's wrong to minimize the integral nature of the 3 ball. In this era that's one if not the most important component. JJ is a legendary shooter and for good reason.

    • @patrickzamier9960
      @patrickzamier9960 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calebmcleod4089 legendary is a stretch

  • @v8rmusic406
    @v8rmusic406 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Stephen went ham ngl 👀🔥

  • @mahyarshami2760
    @mahyarshami2760 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    While I like JJ usually agree Stephen A is right Kawhi is done obviously the Knees cant handle the NBA anymore

    • @lexis4490
      @lexis4490 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      But if the NBA owner is going to keep paying him and taking the gamble, why is that Kawhi's problem?

    • @samuelgoma1373
      @samuelgoma1373 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U weren’t saying this 2 weeks ago

    • @LuckyJackson2020
      @LuckyJackson2020 ปีที่แล้ว

      mf u dont know how his body responds

    • @vbn2678
      @vbn2678 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lexis4490 That's not his argument though. Their top earner playing 50 games a season and then no showing in the postseason is the Clipper's problem. And they should be looking at a way to remove that problem. Whether that's by trade (unlikely) or a buyout (slightly more likely) they need to do something, because the situation is only going to get worse; he's played less games year on year and it's going to continue to trend downwards while his money goes up.

    • @shannysalcedo3627
      @shannysalcedo3627 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@vbn2678 or how about this...just save him for the postseason..play maybe 20 games in the regular season

  • @rodneydeal9133
    @rodneydeal9133 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these 2 together

  • @semere95
    @semere95 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    JJ is as usual the most fact based and fine tune in his tone in here. My respect to JJ. He just doesn't make noises but set tones and put forward facts. Love it!!!

    • @gingfreecss751
      @gingfreecss751 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He got handled pretty well with his facts

    • @Kevinschart
      @Kevinschart ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They all have facts...JJ just condescends and you guys eat it up.

    • @gingfreecss751
      @gingfreecss751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kevinschart He has no personnality, no narrative. He think, the debat is only based on facts. He basically take no risk

    • @AdanBean
      @AdanBean ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kevinschart agreed. People hate SAS so much they just like seeing someone talk down to him but don’t analyze that JJ really ain’t saying nothing

  • @Will_Deal
    @Will_Deal ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Quiet in his own commercial 😭🤣😂😂 I gotta see it

  • @stanleyrimpsonjr
    @stanleyrimpsonjr ปีที่แล้ว +212

    JJ be intentionally getting under Stephen A skin 😂😂😂

    • @phonefamoustv7930
      @phonefamoustv7930 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Only thing JJ did today was show his bias as a former player. JJ usually wins these debates but today he got Cooked

    • @jameslopez488
      @jameslopez488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea he do 🤣🤣

    • @therocksaysthis8821
      @therocksaysthis8821 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@phonefamoustv7930 Thank you!! I'm with SA on this as well. Leonard has been an utter failure as a Clipper.

    • @daniel.sandoval
      @daniel.sandoval ปีที่แล้ว

      JJ IS intentionally getting under Stephen A's skin.

    • @igotznochill407
      @igotznochill407 ปีที่แล้ว

      He gonna end up like Max Kellerman

  • @joshrajakumar1634
    @joshrajakumar1634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vintage first take! Love it!

  • @justinlawrence4658
    @justinlawrence4658 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Haven’t event finished the segment but I died laughing at the beginning when Stephen A mentioned to JJ how he has been covering the NBA since he was 8 years old. 😂😂😂 seems like SAS knew JJ was about to school em’

    • @gelidgee
      @gelidgee ปีที่แล้ว

      I was scrolling the comments to see if anyone brought this up lmao

    • @calioumarx4289
      @calioumarx4289 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually Steve a Smith school him

    • @Kevinschart
      @Kevinschart ปีที่แล้ว +4

      JJ can have his opinion, but he's acting like he's master of the universe and only his opinion matters.

    • @patrickzamier9960
      @patrickzamier9960 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely opposite, sas schooled him

    • @thefighter5182
      @thefighter5182 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SAS can have his opinion, but he's acting like he's master of the universe and only his opinion matters.

  • @secondchance5080
    @secondchance5080 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Stephen A got JJ with this one

    • @moejaffa9809
      @moejaffa9809 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      100%

    • @MrCXG23
      @MrCXG23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Very solid rebuttal!

    • @youssoufnjikam4690
      @youssoufnjikam4690 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AD is not really a threat in my opinion, there is a huuuuge lack of consistency with him.

    • @justdre2742
      @justdre2742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@youssoufnjikam4690 I agree with you on his consistency but to say he’s not a threat is crazy. Even when he’s not on offensively his presence is always felt defensively. I expect a big game from him today

    • @youssoufnjikam4690
      @youssoufnjikam4690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justdre2742 in comparaison to what other big guys such as Joel, jokic, Adetokunbo are bringing to the table, we should be expecting more from AD.

  • @sleepwalkernation
    @sleepwalkernation ปีที่แล้ว +26

    JJ needs to be on there full time.

  • @poochie-son
    @poochie-son ปีที่แล้ว +20

    He's is unreliable when it comes to his health,but he's never unreliable when it comes to getting to the negotiating table...POWERFUL!!

    • @spencerwhitsett9350
      @spencerwhitsett9350 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂😂😂💯

    • @Topo-yq3uh
      @Topo-yq3uh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SAS is 100% right on this one though!!!

    • @reishakyu3553
      @reishakyu3553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Topo-yq3uh nah you clowns are wrong😆 aged like milk🤡

  • @ml.9417
    @ml.9417 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don’t get why Stephen A cares about Kawhi’s personality lol. Also at 5:29 it just sounds like him fitting that to his own argument lmao.

  • @martaviouspaul7117
    @martaviouspaul7117 ปีที่แล้ว +560

    Stephen A is spitting facts in the playoffs Kawhi and PG has been a straight failure and a waste of time it’s time to blow this up it’s been 5 years and nothing is showed for it time to rebuild or trade these two

    • @IvanRodriguez-kp3nr
      @IvanRodriguez-kp3nr ปีที่แล้ว +71

      I love JJ but bis problem is he is all about the players even though they wrong. Leonard has been atrocious with the Clippers cause he is NEVER on the floor

    • @JuliusC1973
      @JuliusC1973 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's been a regular Season Failure as well. They've only played in 30% of The Clippers Regular Season Games in the last few years. It's time for The Clippers to draft and build around some other Franchise Level Players, whom they have right now is not working.

    • @ThisAinThatMetro
      @ThisAinThatMetro ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Been saying since 2016 Kawhi is the worst star the league has seen. More resting than playing and still getting paid while sitting he started this load management culture

    • @newrecruit100
      @newrecruit100 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If the Clippers wanna blow everything up then by all means they can. But Stephen A calling him the worst superstar ever and bringing up his personality is irrelevant. It’s Kawhi’s choice and all this is unfortunate. JJ is spot on. If Kawhi still wants to play and a team is willing to pay him, that’s his choice.

    • @infamouskidd8767
      @infamouskidd8767 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a thunder fan and I highly and I mean HIGHLY approve of this message!!!

  • @raiden_nz1725
    @raiden_nz1725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First take so gooooood. Great debate. Merits to both viewpoints especially with so many angles to consider on this. Business, Star Presence, Player on player understanding, Fans etc. How good.

  • @bigfamilyX
    @bigfamilyX ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “You played for clippers “😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wilsonsmanz
    @wilsonsmanz ปีที่แล้ว +288

    SAS is right from the perspective of the organization. Why on earth will they keep paying him when he keeps getting injured and if his body just cannot take it, why build a team with him as the anchor to have the team falling apart every season. You don't need to play basketball to understand that simple idea.

    • @cfwcheeze
      @cfwcheeze ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because they knew the risk when they went all out to sign him as a free agent??? Kawhi himself said the ONLY reason he considered the lakers that year in free agency was in case of injury he could be the 3rd guy & contribute in other ways outside of scoring. He's in his 30s now & it's been known for years his knees were breaking down. The clippers took their chances though & got atleast their first conference finals appearance out of it.

    • @user-dh7dj3yw1b
      @user-dh7dj3yw1b ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @varunaX
      @varunaX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not just paying him, paying him a MAX contract. 45 million dollars. its insanity.

    • @fadethechannel
      @fadethechannel ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just wasting money. And JJ is speaking from a player’s perspective and often shows his player bias. But the fans do not care about that. We know he works hard. But if he is unhealthy, WHAT IS THR REASON FOR PAYING HIM!? It is crippling to the franchise.

    • @samkellogg2805
      @samkellogg2805 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@fadethechannel exactly but guess what they paid him🙃 they had the option and they signed the check. Their choice.

  • @dominiqueandre7750
    @dominiqueandre7750 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    JJ went there for real !!! 😂

  • @isaacberry389
    @isaacberry389 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    The reason why I agree with Sas this time around isn’t only because Kawhi got injured it’s because they rested him on a schedule all season long just so his body would be ready but it still wasn’t enough it’s gotten to the point where in order to keep Kawhi healthy for the playoffs you’d have to sit him for like 60 games during the regular season but then you lose chemistry, and your team might really need him to win enough to games to even make it to the playoffs so then it’s like what’s even the point. His body can’t withstand this sport long enough for you to trust him on a team anymore and that’s the sad reality

    • @mrfatuchi
      @mrfatuchi ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It has opposite effect. The more you rest the less you will be prepared for max effort in the playoffs. You cant play on 70% and then turn it up to 110% in the playoffs and come out unschathed.

    • @isaacberry389
      @isaacberry389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrfatuchi regardless there’s not a good outcome😭

    • @Davos-st8ok
      @Davos-st8ok ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrfatuchi He didn't go on 70% you moron. They ramped up his usage towards the playoffs.

    • @OgLoC2
      @OgLoC2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He has had arthritic knees his whole career, why do you think they did load manage him. Their doctors know something you don't. And its a fact that he has it. The Clippers were doomed the 2nd they got him.

    • @isaacberry389
      @isaacberry389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IshoDominatesLuciferAndGoetia I know that, I may not have named all of the issues that come with resting that long lol but I felt like I didn’t need to

  • @drosmokekush
    @drosmokekush ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “and you know he doesn’t really say anything” 🤣🤣🤣 5:25

  • @universe-ie2mk
    @universe-ie2mk ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Shoutout to lebron. We never had to question his durability. Even in tough times, even when he had lesser teams, he played and im sure he wasnt 100% healthy each postseason. I marvel at his greatness.

    • @vsha89
      @vsha89 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He's averaged 58 games the last 4 seasons and that's not including the covid year. Not sure what you're watching

    • @datsapaddlin6449
      @datsapaddlin6449 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@vsha89 That just comes with age he played more than that when he was at his peak. This dude has played 20 years straight in the NBA.

    • @withallduerespect5073
      @withallduerespect5073 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@vsha89 the mileage doesn’t even compare and still plays more than kawhi lmao

    • @LukeWeyrauch93
      @LukeWeyrauch93 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I like how LeBron wasn’t even mentioned in this video and yet there’s always someone out there that’ll bring him up and compare him to someone else without even knowing what they’re talking about.. he’s missed more games in the 5 years with Lakers than in the first 15 years of his career.

    • @zay57
      @zay57 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@LukeWeyrauch93 He has more mileage on his body than anyone in NBA history, He's never suffered a major injury and has played more than half the season every year of his career. He's the gold standard for durability stay mad.

  • @diwaltersp
    @diwaltersp ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've had a torn meniscus while in the military, during a course with full kit and load out for 3 months. About an extra 50-60lbs on my body, for 12hrs a day, and 2 days off the whole 3 months. It was brutal. I had a brace on the whole time and had to keep tightening and loosening it due to swelling. Then I developed rashes around the knee. I did what I had to do, and it was my decision. But I couldn't really "run" lol barely jog. And then it would lock up on me randomly. Kawhi could have gone out there but he would have been doing more damage to himself rather than helping his team. It's dumb. I'm a guard too and I did try balling with my bad meniscus. I played for 2mins and then I overcompensated and got a high ankle sprain trying to protect my knee. A very low time in my career lol they did the right thing with Kawhi. I have however fully recovered after surgery, at least in my knee. So he can definitely still play

  • @globalspiritualrevolutionmedia
    @globalspiritualrevolutionmedia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SAS is 💯 Right On Everything!

  • @juliusperseus8612
    @juliusperseus8612 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can't Believe the Kawhi & Pg Clippers is About to be a 5 years old experience already... wow.

    • @JBadge
      @JBadge ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's insane

    • @efrainesparza5679
      @efrainesparza5679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they have done absolutely nothing

    • @juliusperseus8612
      @juliusperseus8612 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@efrainesparza5679 Exactly...
      When They Say : "don't Believe the Hype"
      _" Don't Talk to us ! "_
      *Where Are they Now ?* smdh...

    • @aquaticlibrary
      @aquaticlibrary ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Insane considering how little they’ve played together in the playoffs

  • @ASAP_AJ
    @ASAP_AJ ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I won’t ever disrespect SAS journalism work and credibility. He is on it 1000% and he’s right here.

    • @thefighter5182
      @thefighter5182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I won't ever disrespect JJ Redick journalism work and credibility. He is on it 1000% and he's right here.

    • @brooklynblack9015
      @brooklynblack9015 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s a liar 🤥

  • @WrestlingIsReal649
    @WrestlingIsReal649 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Why jj getting Cooked liked this 😂😂😂

    • @zephaniahmcdaniels
      @zephaniahmcdaniels ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He said that SAS & Mad Dog sound crazy calling for Kawhi's retirement when they've never played high level basketball. Honestly? He deserves every minute of this talking to

    • @_andresss07
      @_andresss07 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His turn to get cooked i guess lmfao

  • @stephenreynolds1710
    @stephenreynolds1710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant debating. Saw JJ’s part before was so good, he explained everything so well. Great response by SA. Man, he’s a pro.

  • @bertoyardie8731
    @bertoyardie8731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JJ but them in their place. Talking to people is very different from preparing your body for the riggers of pro sport. Neither SAS nor Mad Dog listened to what JJ said, they just listened to argue.

  • @MildShredder
    @MildShredder ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Kawhi is a bad investment at this point. Toronto cashed in. San Antonio cashed in. The window has shut.

  • @twright8484
    @twright8484 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great take !

  • @byejinx1473
    @byejinx1473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @hardenxx1335
    @hardenxx1335 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    SAS is 10000% correct.

  • @dfillmo59
    @dfillmo59 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    JJ gets in his feelings alot

  • @God_Lee1
    @God_Lee1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JJ got SAS tripping up… I love it! 😂🤣😂

  • @symbolic503
    @symbolic503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    an actual debate i love it

  • @Mrbadass0
    @Mrbadass0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stephen A Smith taking a shot at Skip in the beginning LOL

  • @steplaland
    @steplaland ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Of course, JJ has Clipper mentality. He played for them.

    • @damnthatsfr5475
      @damnthatsfr5475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What does stephen a have then? A nobody mentality since he played for nobody?

    • @willh69
      @willh69 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@damnthatsfr5475 an ESPN Prime Spot Host mentality, who has the power to put people ON and turn people OFF.
      That's what mentality HE got!

    • @damnthatsfr5475
      @damnthatsfr5475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@willh69 I've been seeing stephen a. on tv for about 15 years and can't think of one person who he "put on" and he has very little credibility when it comes to discussing individual basketball players after he lied and said there is nothing personal between him and kyrie and then admitting that they do have personal issues not too long after. He brings nothing of substance to the world of nba media.

    • @willh69
      @willh69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@damnthatsfr5475 yet you been watching him for 15 years.
      Why, might I ask?
      😄

    • @damnthatsfr5475
      @damnthatsfr5475 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@willh69 I said "seeing" and not watching stephen a. for a reason, I rarely watch first take unless I'm bored and they put stephen a. on sportscenter and on the espn nba halftime show. I'm still curious about these people he "put on" or even "shut off" as well lol

  • @Marx1684
    @Marx1684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love it!

  • @BugaMane
    @BugaMane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love perk, I hope he keeps growing as an analyst so he can really debate like these two. Great conversation between SAS and JJ.

  • @rockjm9876543210
    @rockjm9876543210 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    While JJ is right it was def a low blow to bring that up. It's no rocket science that SAS and Mad weren't professional athletes, but they're on this platform for their level of journalism and knowledge of the game from analysts perspective.
    He could've easily started off by saying "well as a former athelete this is my perspective".

    • @fahimabrar277
      @fahimabrar277 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen A is a big idiot though

    • @manucr9183
      @manucr9183 ปีที่แล้ว

      They deserved to hear it

  • @seowth
    @seowth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I LOVE the JJ sipping tea while Stevie A is doing his sweet talk BS @ the start!

  • @victorious541
    @victorious541 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SAS, the MJ of journalism!

  • @jamiesWorld22
    @jamiesWorld22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they started playing jazz music in the background when he was talking 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Theinsideoutsider
    @Theinsideoutsider ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Stephen A is right. Kawhi's value is in his great play some guys are good locker room guys so play won't matter (see haslem) some guys are box office although their play don't match typically as they age or her hurt (see Kobe Iverson) kawhis inability to play means his value is severely diminished. That's all Stephen A is saying.. it's not rocket science

    • @LYE333
      @LYE333 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stephen a is not right 😂

    • @danieltatum4262
      @danieltatum4262 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I like JJ but I feel like he goes out his way to be too smart and it makes he seem fake

    • @shakadeveaux6851
      @shakadeveaux6851 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had this debate earlier based on Anthony Davis being injury prone my cuz said kobe was injury prone I don't agree mayb 1 big injury b4 the rash of em in his last 3 yrs in a 20 yr career no one else can compare

    • @Theinsideoutsider
      @Theinsideoutsider ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LYE333 how so? I'm curious why you're thinking that way

    • @jquillenwest6168
      @jquillenwest6168 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a dumb analysis cuz both Kobe and ai were a lot older than kawhi when they were done

  • @bee1979
    @bee1979 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The thing is, it doesn’t even seem to bother or frustrate Kawhi or PG that they barely play. That’s part of the problem. No one can ever deny Westbrook’s passion or intensity for the game.

    • @newrecruit100
      @newrecruit100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is just nonsense and it doesn’t make sense.

    • @whatwhat9004
      @whatwhat9004 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Just because Kawhi doesn’t talk about it out loud doesn’t mean it doesn’t frustrate him. Smdh

    • @KinseyPro
      @KinseyPro ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@whatwhat9004 fans are spending money on a product that is hardly there and uncommunicative. Wouldn't you be frustrated?

    • @whatwhat9004
      @whatwhat9004 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KinseyPro As a fan I would be frustrated. But it’s not fair to assume that Kawhi isn’t frustrated with the constant knee injuries and surgeries and rehabs. I’d guarantee that stuff does wear on his mind, but just because he doesn’t talk about it doesn’t mean he’s not frustrated about it. But even as a fan I also make it a point to never draft him in fantasy lol

    • @hanspatmpouma1183
      @hanspatmpouma1183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because Kawhi and PG are very mellow, laid back guys. So you don't feel passion or energy. In life there are some position that requires you to have a presence like being a franchise player but with those guys they are low key to a fault as if they are role players.

  • @henrylugo8739
    @henrylugo8739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great take

  • @ericgregory1889
    @ericgregory1889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact these guys debate back and forth from 2 different sides is amazing

    • @I_Shit_on_your_shit_point
      @I_Shit_on_your_shit_point ปีที่แล้ว

      What exactly do you think a debate is? Its amazing that there are 2 different sides in a debate?
      Lol i mean…people are dumb. Really. Sadly.

  • @MrJokey16
    @MrJokey16 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    SAS is true about this 💯

    • @albertdaley9093
      @albertdaley9093 ปีที่แล้ว

      🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩 sas been wrong about players for years he should retire he said Joel embid was gonna be a bust what happen ??? He said ginnnas aint never getting a ring see wat happen so prove me facts

    • @MrJokey16
      @MrJokey16 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertdaley9093 he's been wrong about a lot of players but not this one, how much you want to bet Kawhi won't be healthy for the entire playoffs again for the rest of his career. Look at D-Rose. Never was the same

    • @albertdaley9093
      @albertdaley9093 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrJokey16 so should Steven Adams retire to huh Stephen hate black players would it be the same energy if lebron didnt play if you say yeah then ill say kawhi should but if you say no to lebron retiring then you just prove my point on meat glazing

    • @MrJokey16
      @MrJokey16 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertdaley9093 Steven Adams is different bruh 😂 he hasn't missed the last 3 seasons because of injury like Kawhi has. Dude has literally played 104 of 246 games in the last 3 years. Even KD has played more games than that at 137. If he gets hurt next year and can't play the entire year or gets hurt in playoffs then he definitely needs to retire

    • @albertdaley9093
      @albertdaley9093 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrJokey16 the only difference is skin color stop meat glazing adams aint get no rings lock up the best players nothing kawhi did so show me stats in adams vs kawhi you loook like a 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @jon401
    @jon401 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    SAS just sounds like he makes stuff up

  • @Mckinleyfaustin
    @Mckinleyfaustin ปีที่แล้ว

    Had to see the full debate from instagram

  • @vladimiretienne5656
    @vladimiretienne5656 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great debate… this is what first take use to be everyday .. jj is a great analyst going up against a goat…. I love how he is respectful and doesn’t let his reverence for Stephen A stop him from telling it like it is 👏👏

  • @seriousnewsnetwork2707
    @seriousnewsnetwork2707 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really impressed with how Stephen A responded after JJ seemed to have blown him out with his earlier comment. At this point it is not terribly farfetched for Kawhi to retire especially if his long term health maybe compromised. They say he limps everywhere

  • @aggarius2944
    @aggarius2944 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love that stephen A seems to really enjoy his debates with JJ

  • @domcagney2352
    @domcagney2352 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t watched FT in years, JJ got me clicking to find this segment lol

  • @ravioli9006
    @ravioli9006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even watch NBA but this was entertaining lol they both make good points

  • @steplaland
    @steplaland ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Get him SAS, JJ defends his contemporaries like no other.

    • @larrykeys8264
      @larrykeys8264 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As jj should

    • @chrismathgenius
      @chrismathgenius ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@larrykeys8264 They're not always right, you know.

    • @larrykeys8264
      @larrykeys8264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrismathgenius no one is

  • @trhone1978
    @trhone1978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When Stephen A smiles, he has ammo… always remember that

  • @MV-eh3xf
    @MV-eh3xf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Timmy was silent in his Sprite commercial too 😂

  • @biggd54vikings
    @biggd54vikings ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They both had really great points from different perspectives. I would probably side with Stephen A on this one...When you low manage all year long to be available for a playoff push but can't even make it through, that is a major problem!

  • @erikpuka2627
    @erikpuka2627 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kawhi Leonard playoff career/resume
    2012 - losses in WCF to the Thunder 4-2
    2013 - losses in NBA Finals to the Heat 4-3 (the Ray Allen shot)
    2014 - wins NBA Champiomship and finals MVP Miami 4-1
    2015 - losses to the Clippers in the first round 4-3 (the CP3 bank shot)
    2016 - losses to the Thunder in WCSF 4-2
    2017 - gets hurt vs Warriors while up 25 in mid 3rd quarter by Zaza Pachulua. In Oracle. Spurs proceed to get swept
    2018 - only plays 8 regular season games. Then Spurs shut him down
    2019 - wins the Championship with Toronto 4-2 vs Warriors
    2020 - (the bubble year ) Clippers lose to the Nuggets and blow a 3-1 lead in WCSF
    2021 - Wins 1st round vs Mavericks in 7. Gets hurt in Western Conference Semis vs UTAH in game 4. Series was 2-2 at that point. Clippers win in 6 but then proceed to lose in 6 to the phoenix Sins
    2022- does not play at all.
    2023 - plays 2 playoff games for the Clippers vs Suns. Then goes down never to play again.
    Since 2016-2017 (last 7 seasons)- he has finished a season only twice. The Toronto year and the Bubble year.

    • @Kidnappthedoe
      @Kidnappthedoe ปีที่แล้ว

      If he didn’t win those rings my god 😂

    • @burneraccount7510
      @burneraccount7510 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kidnappthedoe yea kawhi is buns

  • @obynoomere1280
    @obynoomere1280 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know Stephen A had to come back at JJ 😂.

  • @bensimmons6958
    @bensimmons6958 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steven has was watching creed 3 yesterday, when I saw your part I immediately turned the jive off and left the theatre

  • @aaronzigelbaum
    @aaronzigelbaum ปีที่แล้ว

    Anytime I hear Stojakovic get mentioned it makes me happy

  • @noahtaliferro3458
    @noahtaliferro3458 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    If JJ was a GM. He’d have a nursing home as a roster, everyone would be on the IR. SAS is right on this one.

    • @makanoification
      @makanoification ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Horrendous take

    • @mannedi8665
      @mannedi8665 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If he was the Clips GM, he'll be trading his healthy players for AD and Zion

    • @larrykeys8264
      @larrykeys8264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like rob pelinka

    • @cardellknighten4865
      @cardellknighten4865 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neither was wrong . Jj speaking from a athlete point of view . While SAS speaking from a fan/ journalist point of view . I can see what both is saying

    • @wirelessbrain12
      @wirelessbrain12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larrykeys8264 Cold Take Pelina robbed everyone in the deadline

  • @Urinnerconscience
    @Urinnerconscience ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Tearing a ligament is one of the worst injuries you can possibly have.. especially an acl or meniscus tear, I’ve had my own personal experiences and it’s no fun. I always liked Kawhi game, I hope he comes back better like last time.

    • @hammeraffe
      @hammeraffe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How Bad is torn Meniskus?

    • @jeffreyvalcin8872
      @jeffreyvalcin8872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude was load managing for the longest. What is the point of not playing only to still get injured?

    • @Roxas-ph3te
      @Roxas-ph3te ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@hammeraffe It can mark the end of you're career at the top if we're talking basketball. It pretty much ended Kobe's career, he was never the same afterwards

    • @camrontillery3093
      @camrontillery3093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@jeffreyvalcin8872 he played 4 less games then bron and a few less than other stars man

    • @eeluaune3449
      @eeluaune3449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏🏾

  • @ogveee
    @ogveee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imma Clips fan and Kawhi fan and I totally agree wit SAS 4 years and nothin but injuries and heartbreak ... time to break it up

  • @Jeremiah3997
    @Jeremiah3997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually don't agree or like what JJ says, but I loved his analysis on these two teams.

  • @lorenzobala1974
    @lorenzobala1974 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    JJ never played high level basketball either lmfao 😂 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Jevildury
      @Jevildury ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You wilding

    • @Colmets1
      @Colmets1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts. He acts like he’s a Hall of Famer. Can’t stand his arrogant attitude.

    • @NotJam3s
      @NotJam3s ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whoa, this is a delusional take

    • @bigdicdaddy6042
      @bigdicdaddy6042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NotJam3s jj acts like he a hall of famer when he was a bench player best game was 25 never scored 30.

    • @NotJam3s
      @NotJam3s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigdicdaddy6042 no he doesnt. He acts like he is a ex NBA player chatting with wannabes. I dont understand why you cant apply that same logic to Stephen A. JJ is an NBA level talent. Thats so far ahead of most ballers

  • @EAchank
    @EAchank ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish Molly would be a Quiet Leader

    • @thepoet77
      @thepoet77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I wish Molly could learn from Kawhi's commercial by staying quiet and let the boys argue 😂

  • @stefanmaric1721
    @stefanmaric1721 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JJ a real one!

    • @I_Shit_on_your_shit_point
      @I_Shit_on_your_shit_point ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes i thought maybe he was a hologram but it turns out he is real.
      Your borrowed slang shows you’re fake af

  • @uyoung76
    @uyoung76 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both good points.

  • @nyombiandrew1194
    @nyombiandrew1194 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Stephen A is RIIGGHHHTTT!! and I liked the way he went at JJ

    • @thefighter5182
      @thefighter5182 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I liked the way JJ Redick went at Stephen A. Because JJ Redick is RIGHT.

  • @peterdim3037
    @peterdim3037 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stephen A literally made all that stuff up about what Clippers people are saying about Kawhi

  • @babayaga96792
    @babayaga96792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He definitely shouldn't retire that's insane. But there should be a clause in his contract that if he's not available then he gets peanuts instead of 45 million. He's worth every penny when he's out there.

    • @ratedrko1249
      @ratedrko1249 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts of if you don't play certain amount of games you don't get the bag simple as that

  • @Lee-rj1zc
    @Lee-rj1zc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Molly always looked good but this month OMG 😍

  • @ojayciao9652
    @ojayciao9652 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    To be honest, every since Kawhi and Paul joined, EVERYBODY has said the Clippers are "favorites"... My question at this point is..favorites to do what??

    • @raymondrodriguez5715
      @raymondrodriguez5715 ปีที่แล้ว

      To rest star players and still go home in the playoffs.

    • @broncos8664
      @broncos8664 ปีที่แล้ว

      Favorites to be handicaps during the playoffs

  • @steplaland
    @steplaland ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hate people who end arguments by saying you didn’t play, you know nothing.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly. It's weak. Especially when there's players or past players saying the samething as the people who didn't play.

    • @deweyfinn1497
      @deweyfinn1497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm mad at facts too believe me

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinlee9929 Exactly, and some of them played at a much higher level than JJ...which by his logic I guess he'd have to bow down to them because he never reached their level. That's the essence of just how stupid the "you didn't play" thing is. Ted Williams was one of greatest baseball players in history....and was a horrible manager. Having the ability to play a sport and having an ability to analyze it are two different things. Sure, a person who's played might have some insights others don't, but they're just as likely to have as stupid a take as a random person on the street.

  • @bristonpypp7380
    @bristonpypp7380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man this playoff season is different you can tell from this debate guys are going AT IT with fashion

  • @513ovaeverything7
    @513ovaeverything7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    JJ doing his best to get booted off first take for good😂😂😂

    • @eba1029
      @eba1029 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gonna get that Max Kellerman treatment 😂

  • @ronaldpinson2236
    @ronaldpinson2236 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tony Parker AND the Spurs organization questioned Kawhi’s injuries…

  • @brianduran4206
    @brianduran4206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s get jj and Stephen a on daily show !!!

  • @RapperNameDLO
    @RapperNameDLO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steven a gave em that work!

  • @carlocordova9238
    @carlocordova9238 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Love JJ to death but man SA just got a solid point. No matter how hard you show up in practice if you cant show up when it really truly matters to the team and all the fans watching then there is nothing else to talk about. Trade claw and PG. Next year will be no different with both of em in the roster

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please you crazy as Stephen A

    • @Kmutts879
      @Kmutts879 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trade for who?

  • @danielnavarro5369
    @danielnavarro5369 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    JJ got cooked on this one

  • @manatee_flips6811
    @manatee_flips6811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s with Steve’s take? Him and that Howard Cosell jacket! 😂