Gone 47 years for no good reason. Many groups, not just The Supremes, have creative differences. Florence Ballard should have continued work with The Supremes; while in talks with other industry people. She may have landed a record deal, or even a potential Academy Award performance in a film. You don't start sabotaging the group, missing rehearsals, being too drunk to take the stage. She threw it away. Next chapter? Eight years of depression, alcoholism and poverty. I'll never forget the pretty singer from my childhood, no makeup, hooded coat, standing in front of her boarded-uo home. She appeared on the cover of Jet Magazine in 1974. Strangely, even still, she had no clue of how she arrived at that point.
@@michellekirkendall818Who are you to judge?.She was raped and she was tired of all that crap of Motown to make Diana a star when Florence formed the group.
The choreography by the high school girls performing Where Did Our Love Go was tight! Surprised Cholly Atkins didn't try to steal some of those moves for The Supremes! The Marvelettes looked fab. Those dance steps on Don't Mess with Bill are the bomb.
@@aarondigby5054 Sure, she felt that her role was diminished. The nice one-liners she did made producers want her for films, her and Mary's solo spots had changed. It was time for re-evaluation. The fact that she did a little UNCONFIRMED "side-eye" meant nothing. This was when she should have been taking care of business. What was the result? Eight years of poverty, alcoholism and depression.
That was an impression... in fact Florence was a depressive and was at once apparently confident yet not street wise but innocent although a rape victim.
Looking at this video @9:34, Mary and Flo are nicely commenting with one another on the music on the lip-sync performance. Diana seems to be with her own thoughts --- seating silently.
@@aarondigby5054 She really is. I remember when Mary passed, Dionne Warwick spoke about her and them being friends while she was in the Supremes. She said, respectfully that Diana was a different type of woman. As she stayed to herself and didn't mingle or have many friends.
@@I-AM-BELIEVER lol that's SO funny to me. Cuz I met and talked to Whitney Houston (and her "assistant" Robin) for 3 or 4 hours thru some guy that I met who worked as a background singer in studios and he knew a lot of these people including Dirty Diana herself (to what extent, I have no clue). And when Diana Ross's name came up in conversation, Whitney said that Dionne Warwick could not STAND Diana Ross. She said that just the mention of Ross's name and Dionne would go OFF! Although it appeared to me that Whitney really liked Diane Ernestine Ross, she made it perfectly clear that Dionne couldn't STAND her!! "A different type of woman"? I'm laughing my money maker off cuz I can just imagine what Dionne REALLY wanted to say about her but couldn't. 🤣😁
@@ilovebeinggay6794 I honestly don’t think Whitney cared for Diana in the beginning either. She didn’t start to gain more respect for her, until much later in her career. Diana shaded her quite a bit. Calling her singing and look, cute.
@@I-AM-BELIEVER No I truly believe Whitney liked her. She said when she met Ross as a child, she was just in total awe of her and nervous: "yes Ms Ross, no ma'am Ms Ross". She liked her and had nothing bad to say about her. But I don't know what happened with their relationship after Whitney became a super-huge back-to-back success. Ross likely became jealous of her because she's very insecure. But there's no doubt that Dionne couldn't STAND her. 🤣
Yes, yet their boss Gordy was a lover of Ross and pushed Diane's career over Flo & Mary's.Flo knew this and resented it leading to the destructive tension that lead to her exit in 67
When Diana sings its pure magic. This show had to be so boring for them LOL. Especially the part when those girls were lip syncing their songs. Geez, teenagers looked old then, too LOL. Not to mention they had to hold those flowers the whole time. Does anyone notice how Flo kept looking at Diana? It seems maybe she was looking to take cues from her or maybe it was something else. Last thing it seems like the Marvelettes were the cool, ratchet group
@Empress: When you're getting famous, or in demand, no show is boring...and you don't complain because you are BOOKED to perform. There were YOUNG people then, as they are today. Fashion was different then, as it is in different eras. No one seems to understand that. Do you have pictures of your grandmothers or aunts? Life didn't begin today! The word is "wretched" not "ratchet."
Lol. She wasn't looking at Diane Ernestine. Start here 9:00 and it looks as if Florence is looking at whatever Diane Ernestine turned her head to look at.
How could she not be. She was the group’s original lead singer. Diana changed all that by sleeping with the boss. Seems to me Diana had solo ambitions all along, and she saw Flo as a constant threat. Flo was tall, elegant, beautiful, and she sang beautifully too. Now imagine if she also began sleeping with the boss. If she was that type of girl she would have probably prevailed. It was the 1960s, and black men never back then preferred pretty light skinned black girls. Diana made sure that would never happen. She and Gordy bullied Flo into depression. Flo evidently wasn’t a strong person. She took it to heart and began to let herself go. As wealthy and successful as Diana Ross is now, I’m sure she must have some regrets about things she did back then.
Berry didnt have as much vested in the Marvelettes as he did with the Supremes. Long story short, I dont think he cared. But being that the Marvelettes did give Motown their first number one song he probably would have been more vested in them if the Supremes had stayed the NO HIT Supremes. Lol
@@ceeceetracey9839 I guess for some reason Florence was so jealous and envious of Diana. I'm sure when Flo was assaulted it changed her and being insecure. I think Diana would have been a star with it without Barry.
You can tell the there was tension between Flo and Dianna, Which I don't blame Flo she was mistreated badly. She was the best Supreme, Then Marry then Diana.
To @ceeceetracey: I was correct in my assessment that those not born in The Supremes era were into the "victimization" of Florence Ballard theory. For me, it always was and is about Motown Records. There are five labels, with great artists on all of them. Diana Ross wasn't the only artist on the roster.
Flo was great just not smart. She had it all and threw it away....no one took it from her...she threw it away. Diana said she tried to talk some sense into her but she was hard headed and had that chauffeur she hooked with talking in her ear...encouraging her in her resentments and jealousy. He succeeded in goading her into leaving the Supremes then when the money was gone dumped her...Just the idea that she would hook up with the "driver" shows you how low she aimed..Diana aimed high and hit the jackpot. Mary spread herself around quite a bit and got nothing for it, but she was smart enough to stay in the group and keep the checks and the fame coming.
If Florence Ballard felt her role was minimized, such as, stage banter, solos or comedic quips removed from shows, tell the producers and Gordy about it. Then, she should have continued her work with The Supremes. Start talking to industry people about record deals. That would have been smart.
Each supreme should’ve had a lead at some point, now just Diana leading every song, that’s wasn’t fair to the other girls, who also had beautiful voices.
@@melissalavant1982 Another person who was not born in The Supremes' heyday. The Supremes' members sang lead on their earlier work. They sang lead in the group's many performances on tours. Florence Ballard did "skits." You can't just jump into this conversation and say what you heard someone else say. You have to know why the group changed, what Berry Gordy did, or what the producers did. Do some research.
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Those Marvelettes Were Rocking With Those Steps...
You could tell that Wanda was not feeling Diane, she walked right passed her like she was a prop. That Leo/Aries competition.
Florence was everything!! I love her so much ❤️❤️❤️
She looks exactly like one of my aunts. I think she was the best looking Supreme.
@@FallacyAsPraxis I think so too! She was so Beautiful!!
Flo is looking so fine, She was and still is Everything.
@@FallacyAsPraxis her legs are pretty, she's a doll baby.
@@AllStarCompilations I Agree 💯
HOW BEAUTIFUL AND TALENTED WERE the Beloved Flo And Mary⁉️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Florence Ballard is always treated with the most respect, and she is always the most elegant and poised.
I think so too Love and miss Ya Florence Blondie Ballard
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This belies the torment Flo was in and only a year away from her disintegration as a Supreme.
Florence was so beautiful, wearing a simple, elegant dress looking astonishingly good overshowding not purposefully the other two girls
My thoughts also 👍
She and Rihanna look a lot alike!
Beautiful Florence Ballard... forever young ❤❤❤❤
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Gone 47 years for no good reason. Many groups, not just The Supremes, have creative differences. Florence Ballard should have continued work with The Supremes; while in talks with other industry people. She may have landed a record deal, or even a potential Academy Award performance in a film. You don't start sabotaging the group, missing rehearsals, being too drunk to take the stage. She threw it away. Next chapter? Eight years of depression, alcoholism and poverty. I'll never forget the pretty singer from my childhood, no makeup, hooded coat, standing in front of her boarded-uo home. She appeared on the cover of Jet Magazine in 1974. Strangely, even still, she had no clue of how she arrived at that point.
@@michellekirkendall818Who are you to judge?.She was raped and she was tired of all that crap of Motown to make Diana a star when Florence formed the group.
WOW, what a GREAT SHOW.........the MARVELOUS MARVELLETTES were also on.....RIP to Katherine who recently passed away.
The choreography by the high school girls performing Where Did Our Love Go was tight! Surprised Cholly Atkins didn't try to steal some of those moves for The Supremes! The Marvelettes looked fab. Those dance steps on Don't Mess with Bill are the bomb.
The Marvelettes were awesome singing their song, Don’t Mess with Bill!
I agree
Me tooooooo I Agree 💯👍
Lol them three were so dry I bet miss Ross was laughing in her head
09:05 a moment that will live in immortality .
Oh yes I saw that...go Flo.. she was so beautiful
Yessss 👍
@@lillianmunster4734 it was a little shade but not that much. It's ashamed how they stabbed her in the back.
@@aarondigby5054 Sure, she felt that her role was diminished. The nice one-liners she did made producers want her for films, her and Mary's solo spots had changed. It was time for re-evaluation. The fact that she did a little UNCONFIRMED "side-eye" meant nothing. This was when she should have been taking care of business. What was the result? Eight years of poverty, alcoholism and depression.
Thank you for taking the time to upload a real treat.
I Thank You Also!! Love this 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
i love when diana start singing to the audience
You could the jealously and dislike for the Marvelettes in Diana's eyes!!!
She wished the Supremes had choreography like that!!!
1:25 ? Flo was saying something? Flo is the best Supreme! My op!
She seems to be saying to Dianna that you're too good to clap Bitch. Disnnz was creepy.
My opinion Tooooooo 👍
Florence was THAT GIRL.
Absolutely Florence Ballard was the best singer and Beautiful.
And what girl might that have been dear pizzapopo?
@@ilovebeinggay6794 The Voice
@@ThePizzaPoPo yeah 👍
She was talented but dumb and didn't know how to play the game.
Flo was just THAT GIRL!! She had waaay more spunk than the other two
That was an impression... in fact Florence was a depressive and was at once apparently confident yet not street wise but innocent although a rape victim.
Florence keep looking out the audience like she recognized her surprise!
I Think You so Much for these posts ‼️👍
I see the look Flo gave Diana on more than one occasion. There obviously some tension there. Don't blame her❤❤❤
Yes I noticed too @1:18-1:19 Florence looked pissed and glared at Mary and caught her disapproval
@@gueromex3056yall are seeing things yall want to see that's not even there...😂😂😂😂😂...OMG...SAD!!!
Looking at this video @9:34, Mary and Flo are nicely commenting with one another on the music on the lip-sync performance. Diana seems to be with her own thoughts --- seating silently.
Dianna was creepy, that's the vibe I get.
@@aarondigby5054 She really is. I remember when Mary passed, Dionne Warwick spoke about her and them being friends while she was in the Supremes. She said, respectfully that Diana was a different type of woman. As she stayed to herself and didn't mingle or have many friends.
@@I-AM-BELIEVER lol that's SO funny to me. Cuz I met and talked to Whitney Houston (and her "assistant" Robin) for 3 or 4 hours thru some guy that I met who worked as a background singer in studios and he knew a lot of these people including Dirty Diana herself (to what extent, I have no clue). And when Diana Ross's name came up in conversation, Whitney said that Dionne Warwick could not STAND Diana Ross. She said that just the mention of Ross's name and Dionne would go OFF! Although it appeared to me that Whitney really liked Diane Ernestine Ross, she made it perfectly clear that Dionne couldn't STAND her!! "A different type of woman"? I'm laughing my money maker off cuz I can just imagine what Dionne REALLY wanted to say about her but couldn't. 🤣😁
@@ilovebeinggay6794 I honestly don’t think Whitney cared for Diana in the beginning either. She didn’t start to gain more respect for her, until much later in her career. Diana shaded her quite a bit. Calling her singing and look, cute.
@@I-AM-BELIEVER No I truly believe Whitney liked her. She said when she met Ross as a child, she was just in total awe of her and nervous: "yes Ms Ross, no ma'am Ms Ross". She liked her and had nothing bad to say about her. But I don't know what happened with their relationship after Whitney became a super-huge back-to-back success. Ross likely became jealous of her because she's very insecure. But there's no doubt that Dionne couldn't STAND her. 🤣
I was on that show twice as a dancer
Dont mess with Bill was giving ❤
Look @1:19 Florence looked pissed and glared at Mary …..while Diana was doing her thang
Florence Ballard got a raw deal. She started this group.
Yes, yet their boss Gordy was a lover of Ross and pushed Diane's career over Flo & Mary's.Flo knew this and resented it leading to the destructive tension that lead to her exit in 67
When Diana sings its pure magic. This show had to be so boring for them LOL. Especially the part when those girls were lip syncing their songs. Geez, teenagers looked old then, too LOL. Not to mention they had to hold those flowers the whole time. Does anyone notice how Flo kept looking at Diana? It seems maybe she was looking to take cues from her or maybe it was something else. Last thing it seems like the Marvelettes were the cool, ratchet group
the look flo gave diana @ 9:05 if looks could kill ! 😠
@@lenb7275 way to go Florence Ballard ❤❤
Boring for us maybe, but the 60s was different, people appreciated different music and each others' contributions
@Empress: When you're getting famous, or in demand, no show is boring...and you don't complain because you are BOOKED to perform.
There were YOUNG people then, as they are today. Fashion was different then, as it is in different eras. No one seems to understand that. Do you have pictures of your grandmothers or aunts? Life didn't begin today!
The word is "wretched" not "ratchet."
@@lenb7275 Dianna was creepy, went behind the girls back and started screwing the boss.
Yes it does sound like a dubut with Mary and Ms Ross
Flo, look so nice..
The truth. Flo started the Supremes. Flo and Mary were friends. Diana came along later.
Florence is gorgeous here, but always was a standout
12:15 😬❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@12:15 immortality, she's more iconic now than ever, I wish she was my baby mama.
@ 9:05 flo gives diana such a look ! I see the tension between flo & diana ! 😠
Just pains me to see that. You know Florence was just so frustrated with where things were going.
@@DCGuy1997 yes
Lol. She wasn't looking at Diane Ernestine. Start here 9:00 and it looks as if Florence is looking at whatever Diane Ernestine turned her head to look at.
How could she not be. She was the group’s original lead singer. Diana changed all that by sleeping with the boss. Seems to me Diana had solo ambitions all along, and she saw Flo as a constant threat. Flo was tall, elegant, beautiful, and she sang beautifully too. Now imagine if she also began sleeping with the boss. If she was that type of girl she would have probably prevailed. It was the 1960s, and black men never back then preferred pretty light skinned black girls. Diana made sure that would never happen. She and Gordy bullied Flo into depression. Flo evidently wasn’t a strong person. She took it to heart and began to let herself go.
As wealthy and successful as Diana Ross is now, I’m sure she must have some regrets about things she did back then.
@@alanmcalister4124 Dianna was creepy and Berry was ghoulish.
Didnt seem to bother the Marvelettes to take turns being lead singer.
Wanda and Gladys actually had conflict over being lead singer of the Marvelettes.
@@Jocelyn_Jade Oh my bad..I should have done my homework. Lol
@@Jocelyn_Jade I never heard that
Berry didnt have as much vested in the Marvelettes as he did with the Supremes. Long story short, I dont think he cared. But being that the Marvelettes did give Motown their first number one song he probably would have been more vested in them if the Supremes had stayed the NO HIT Supremes. Lol
@@ceeceetracey9839 I guess for some reason Florence was so jealous and envious of Diana. I'm sure when Flo was assaulted it changed her and being insecure. I think Diana would have been a star with it without Barry.
The screenshot of Florence is poignant. I did notice it too !!!
Says it all
Diana ain't liking this!
You can tell the there was tension between Flo and Dianna, Which I don't blame Flo she was mistreated badly. She was the best Supreme, Then Marry then Diana.
You're funny!!! That's your opinion not facts. Diana Ross reigned Supreme then and now. Diana Ross was the Supremes period.
08:27
leave it to Diana to sing along
Damn Florence was fine, I wish she was my baby mama.
To @ceeceetracey: I was correct in my assessment that those not born in The Supremes era were into the "victimization" of Florence Ballard theory. For me, it always was and is about Motown Records. There are five labels, with great artists on all of them. Diana Ross wasn't the only artist on the roster.
Flo was great just not smart. She had it all and threw it away....no one took it from her...she threw it away. Diana said she tried to talk some sense into her but she was hard headed and had that chauffeur she hooked with talking in her ear...encouraging her in her resentments and jealousy. He succeeded in goading her into leaving the Supremes then when the money was gone dumped her...Just the idea that she would hook up with the "driver" shows you how low she aimed..Diana aimed high and hit the jackpot. Mary spread herself around quite a bit and got nothing for it, but she was smart enough to stay in the group and keep the checks and the fame coming.
@Maatization: You said it all !!! Thanks for your input !!!
Maatiz-- chauffeur was to keep an eye on Florence. Her handler if u will. He reported to Berry. He didn't care about her.
If Florence Ballard felt her role was minimized, such as, stage banter, solos or comedic quips removed from shows, tell the producers and Gordy about it. Then, she should have continued her work with The Supremes. Start talking to industry people about record deals. That would have been smart.
Each supreme should’ve had a lead at some point, now just Diana leading every song, that’s wasn’t fair to the other girls, who also had beautiful voices.
@@melissalavant1982 Another person who was not born in The Supremes' heyday. The Supremes' members sang lead on their earlier work. They sang lead in the group's many performances on tours. Florence Ballard did "skits." You can't just jump into this conversation and say what you heard someone else say. You have to know why the group changed, what Berry Gordy did, or what the producers did. Do some research.
Dam Flo had some beautiful brown skin
Light skin. She wasn't brown.
why are they dancing like that? haha
That's how they danced then. You had dance hops then; Dick Clark in Philly and Lloyd Thaxton ( I believe in L. A.) They don't have them anymore.
Get over your Florence Ballard "victimization," and enjoy all Motown Artists