What a treat!. Klaus' Batman Gothic is one of my all-time faves for Batman art. Super solid and pacey pulp Batman written by Grant Morrison. Check it out if you haven't read it. Klaus if you see this, please do more Batman. Just do a Barry Windsor-Smith. Create the book you want and hand it in without them knowing. I adore your pencils and story telling. Lastly, the knees that Eric pencilled were gorgeous. They really had a classic Frazetta feel to them.
Klaus's style is so distinctive and vibrant. While I wasn't initially drawn to what I viewed as his "brutal" line work, over time I came to appreciate the vibrancy and impressionism of his approach. For those who haven't read his DC Comics Guide's to Pencilling and Inking, they are well worth studying. Klaus is a good communicator. I had never heard his voice until this video and I was impressed by his kindness and. curiosity. Thanks for having him on, David.
Thank you for posting this! I just found it after having my inks ive been working on given some rather brutal but not unwarranted or unkind feedback in person from Mark Brooks at a local convention. Very informative, some great questions, and just fantastic to watch a master work at it.
Gotta love the humbleness on both parts. Klaus says he’d probably ink you better now which I do not doubt but Mister Finch should really follow up on that because I would love to see a comic with you two handling the art duties!
@@rockon8174Well, we just get the other all the time. As a working pro of 30 years, THESE were the discussions I want to hear. Lots of the other out there to be found. ;)
Is the starting point for this process a printed image of the original pencil work? Or the actual pencil drawing? I'd like to see a video where you go through the process from idea to sketch, and from that to the finished coloured product :) There might be such a video available already, but I just haven't found it 😅 Anyway, growing up Wolverine was my favourite alongside Hulk, so seeing him become alive from the original sketch was great. I should try and draw him one day too :) Great video, art, insights, and talk with the guest star again! 😊
Sat next to Klaus at 2019 NYCC, was too shy to say hi the whole time. I finally introduced myself on the last day, such a talented, hard working and kind person. Please listen to his advice, wise words throughout. I also love that he has to stop inking to talk because I also can not talk and ink at the same time. hahaha! Thank you for sharing, David. We're all still learning.
This is great. love seeing good artists work in real time. I wish such things had been around when inkers like Murphy Anderson, Wally Wood, and Joe Sinnott were around. I'd love to see more demos showing the classic graceful feathering style.
This was very educational to watch and hear! Glad to see that even highly skilled, seasoned masters of the craft deal with the tediousness that is issues with tools. Thanks, David.
@@ducksoff7236 yah the databases are definitely full of stolen art . i agree with Steven Zapata (great artist btw) that ill gotten datasets makes the use of Ai unethical and it is art theft with extra steps .
I sure very fondly remember Klaus's Star Wars Annual that I loved so much. It probably was done on a tight schedule but I loved the freestyle in panel and page composition and inking, no respect for the canon. It felt like Bill Sienkiewicz before Bill Sienkiewicz.
Klaus using Sumi ink is surprising to me. I use it often because it’s a less expensive option than most others I use. However, it’s usually too thin unless I leave it out uncapped for a while.
By the way, in the Spawn/Batman "Deluxe" HC that features the old 2 parts DC/Image books plus the more recent crossover, they included the entire story illustrated by Klaus in ink form. Not black and white, but color scans of his ink work, how they do in Artist Edition books. It's a great learning tool for people interested in inking to see the pages "raw". It's like looking at the original boards, not just a B&W comic.
I found it interesting that David was holding the quill upside-down for most of the time but looks like he was getting ink down so I guess that's just another way to use it.
Hi David, loved this session, love your channel, subscribed!! Also have discovered you, so will be checking out your work in the field. (Im primarily brought up on bande dessine, european comics etc, so just discovering American comics, comic art etc) Glad you brought up the topic of AI with Klaus, as someone interested to do this more than a hobby, it scares me about the future of the profession. Do you know about use of AI in the American comic book making at DC Marvel? What is your industries attitude to it, are they pushing back on its use etc do you know? What are the pros saying in general? Once again many thanks for this video!
If you wanted to do paperback covers, obviously you're strapped for time but I'd imagine even if you pencilled one or a couple for fun and put feelers out or '6 degrees' connect with someone in that space, indie presses would do that in a heartbeat. Brandon Sanderson is hugely influential and experienced in that space. He'd probably be able to help you out. Old school/specifically commissioned artist covers for a limited run could definitely come back like records.
Given the size of these pieces, I’m sure the over rendering of areas would come out blotched when reduced. Sometimes a more simple rendering looks better
@@kaudsiz nobody used the word incompetent. But here, i'll use it. Anybody that is competent knows that's there is always a mistake in some one's drawing. You can't get so good that there is no room for improvement. And it might be rude to point it out, but that was already the topic, since KLAUS BROUGHT IT UP! And feel free to cite your opinion on all that, but that's not when I was kicked. Thanks for your attempt.
I don't like digital art at all and it puts a lot of hard-working comic book artist is a drawing paper with pencil and income and out of work and makes it hard for them and even make a paycheck I believe in the traditional way you draw on a piece of paper with pencil n ink it in n Mr David I recommend the EC documentary shown you that the old comic book artist is from that business how they drew their art and ink it. I wish they would stop the digital and do not do the AI because I see the comic book business disappear.
This is an awesome time to be alive because digital technologies simply makes your artwork more accessible to a wider audience. If an artist is really good traditionally, he should have no problem transitioning to digital. It's all drawing. It's all the same thing. For me at least.
And I do not like digital because I r using someone else art n getting payed for what I did not do or come up with n for some one else art it r getting payed for n being lazy because the computer is doing it for u. Pencil n ink n paper for life n brush to.
What a treat!. Klaus' Batman Gothic is one of my all-time faves for Batman art. Super solid and pacey pulp Batman written by Grant Morrison. Check it out if you haven't read it. Klaus if you see this, please do more Batman. Just do a Barry Windsor-Smith. Create the book you want and hand it in without them knowing. I adore your pencils and story telling. Lastly, the knees that Eric pencilled were gorgeous. They really had a classic Frazetta feel to them.
Please do a part II and have Klaus finish this piece with the spatters, razor blade textures, etc. Great stream!
Klaus is so gracious and funny. This is a great exposure to him.
Klaus's style is so distinctive and vibrant. While I wasn't initially drawn to what I viewed as his "brutal" line work, over time I came to appreciate the vibrancy and impressionism of his approach. For those who haven't read his DC Comics Guide's to Pencilling and Inking, they are well worth studying. Klaus is a good communicator. I had never heard his voice until this video and I was impressed by his kindness and. curiosity. Thanks for having him on, David.
Thank you for posting this! I just found it after having my inks ive been working on given some rather brutal but not unwarranted or unkind feedback in person from Mark Brooks at a local convention. Very informative, some great questions, and just fantastic to watch a master work at it.
Gotta love the humbleness on both parts. Klaus says he’d probably ink you better now which I do not doubt but Mister Finch should really follow up on that because I would love to see a comic with you two handling the art duties!
GREAT conversation. David this is what we artists need to always talk about. Not the fan related stuff but real business stuff. Thanks!
Fine to do BOTH!
@@rockon8174Well, we just get the other all the time. As a working pro of 30 years, THESE were the discussions I want to hear. Lots of the other out there to be found. ;)
I met Klauss Janson at Comic-Con yesterday, and he gave me his signature for free. He’s a super kind and talented dude!
god, such a great stream! loved the dichotomy between you two.
Is the starting point for this process a printed image of the original pencil work? Or the actual pencil drawing? I'd like to see a video where you go through the process from idea to sketch, and from that to the finished coloured product :) There might be such a video available already, but I just haven't found it 😅
Anyway, growing up Wolverine was my favourite alongside Hulk, so seeing him become alive from the original sketch was great. I should try and draw him one day too :)
Great video, art, insights, and talk with the guest star again! 😊
Sat next to Klaus at 2019 NYCC, was too shy to say hi the whole time. I finally introduced myself on the last day, such a talented, hard working and kind person. Please listen to his advice, wise words throughout. I also love that he has to stop inking to talk because I also can not talk and ink at the same time. hahaha! Thank you for sharing, David. We're all still learning.
Klaus Janson is a legend!
This is great. love seeing good artists work in real time. I wish such things had been around when inkers like Murphy Anderson, Wally Wood, and Joe Sinnott were around. I'd love to see more demos showing the classic graceful feathering style.
This was very educational to watch and hear! Glad to see that even highly skilled, seasoned masters of the craft deal with the tediousness that is issues with tools. Thanks, David.
I could listen to Klaus all day!
great stream, thanks for sharing, that tip with splitting the hairs on the brush is gold
It was so great watching masters doing their work and also a lot of gems dropped in the conversation.
Loved this stream! Its just what I needed to hear this week .
Amazing stream! Thank you as always
Thank you David and team. This was great! Klaus seems like the coolest dude.
I wish people would stop calling it ai "art" and call it what it really is. Ai stolen image blending......
Generative imagery is the term I prefer, that way I don't catch myself accidentally affirming ai "art"
i don't call it art i just call it images.
It's automated photobashing.
@@samankucher5117 Then call it stolen images.
@@ducksoff7236 yah the databases are definitely full of stolen art . i agree with Steven Zapata (great artist btw) that ill gotten datasets makes the use of Ai unethical and it is art theft with extra steps .
I enjoyed the stream. Thanks!
What an amazing episode! Thank you both 😊
I sure very fondly remember Klaus's Star Wars Annual that I loved so much. It probably was done on a tight schedule but I loved the freestyle in panel and page composition and inking, no respect for the canon. It felt like Bill Sienkiewicz before Bill Sienkiewicz.
Klaus using Sumi ink is surprising to me. I use it often because it’s a less expensive option than most others I use. However, it’s usually too thin unless I leave it out uncapped for a while.
By the way, in the Spawn/Batman "Deluxe" HC that features the old 2 parts DC/Image books plus the more recent crossover, they included the entire story illustrated by Klaus in ink form. Not black and white, but color scans of his ink work, how they do in Artist Edition books. It's a great learning tool for people interested in inking to see the pages "raw". It's like looking at the original boards, not just a B&W comic.
I found it interesting that David was holding the quill upside-down for most of the time but looks like he was getting ink down so I guess that's just another way to use it.
we're not worthy! no literally we don't deserve this. thank you so much
epic stream :",) i missed it live 😭
Hi David, loved this session, love your channel, subscribed!! Also have discovered you, so will be checking out your work in the field. (Im primarily brought up on bande dessine, european comics etc, so just discovering American comics, comic art etc)
Glad you brought up the topic of AI with Klaus, as someone interested to do this more than a hobby, it scares me about the future of the profession. Do you know about use of AI in the American comic book making at DC Marvel? What is your industries attitude to it, are they pushing back on its use etc do you know? What are the pros saying in general?
Once again many thanks for this video!
If you wanted to do paperback covers, obviously you're strapped for time but I'd imagine even if you pencilled one or a couple for fun and put feelers out or '6 degrees' connect with someone in that space, indie presses would do that in a heartbeat. Brandon Sanderson is hugely influential and experienced in that space. He'd probably be able to help you out. Old school/specifically commissioned artist covers for a limited run could definitely come back like records.
You can use hand disinfectant to clear the tips of the grease. It's so they don't rust.
that wolverine is epic
Smoke on the Water, Am I Evil, and Iron Man are all in the same fretting.
❤
great stream.
Dawn dishwashing liquid takes that off the nibs.
at 50:18 we have a most 'artistic' interpretation of newton's third law ;-)
No matter how much I try. I CANNOT use nibs.
You you can't because you believe you can't.
But I can because i believe I can.
Given the size of these pieces, I’m sure the over rendering of areas would come out blotched when reduced. Sometimes a more simple rendering looks better
The moderator or bot or something kept me from chatting. I WAS ESSENTIALLY KICKED OUT WITHOUT WARNING!
You were being rude, calling Mr Janson incompetent regarding body proportions etc
@@kaudsiz nobody used the word incompetent. But here, i'll use it. Anybody that is competent knows that's there is always a mistake in some one's drawing. You can't get so good that there is no room for improvement. And it might be rude to point it out, but that was already the topic, since KLAUS BROUGHT IT UP! And feel free to cite your opinion on all that, but that's not when I was kicked. Thanks for your attempt.
I don't like digital art at all and it puts a lot of hard-working comic book artist is a drawing paper with pencil and income and out of work and makes it hard for them and even make a paycheck I believe in the traditional way you draw on a piece of paper with pencil n ink it in n Mr David I recommend the EC documentary shown you that the old comic book artist is from that business how they drew their art and ink it. I wish they would stop the digital and do not do the AI because I see the comic book business disappear.
This is an awesome time to be alive because digital technologies simply makes your artwork more accessible to a wider audience. If an artist is really good traditionally, he should have no problem transitioning to digital. It's all drawing. It's all the same thing. For me at least.
And I do not like digital because I r using someone else art n getting payed for what I did not do or come up with n for some one else art it r getting payed for n being lazy because the computer is doing it for u. Pencil n ink n paper for life n brush to.