I don't mind that unit carrying it around. Once you've carried vinyl and turntables in a large flight case this is nothing compared to that Oh and let's not forget separate powered amplifier and speakers.
Cleveland gave me 4 18” earthquakes and 4 2kw amps with rolling boxes. Heaviest shit I’ve ever had to drag to the desert. But it smashes at those desert parties and it’s impressive looking. Thanks Cleveland!
Thank you for comparison for both controllers. You’re making me happy with my decision to keep both my Rev7 and 1000-SRT. I had the Rane 4 and I had to take it back. But now seeing this comparison between the Performer and Rev7 is really no difference. I’m definitely keeping my Rev7 and I’m not even gonna think about getting the Performer. Thank you for your honest and unbiased opinion. Much love to you.
great review and thanks. I had the Rev 7 and traded it in for the Performer and could not be happier and mainly for these reasons: Four channels, non proprietary power cord, on board stem controls, also for what ever reason, my Rev 7 was very glitchy with both Serato and Rekordbox.. no issues at all with the Performer (Serato) which i prefer anyawys. Also appreciate the metal build w/ feet on bottom. The Jogs are a tad bigger and super torquey and responsive. when i attach turn tables or cdj's etc, the four channels come in handy or I can use four deck channels internally as well. True they are both great, but at the same price point I just see so much more value and capability with the Performer and am very happy I got it. Cheers!
Awesome breakdown. If I didn't already have the Rev and I was trying to decide between the 2, after watching g this I would still go with the Rev just cause of personal preference and it having the same layout as my S11 and Rane twelves. Also I had the 1000SRT and I never used channels 3 & 4 on that so the other faders and eq knobs are just clutter to me. But I do think Rane did a couple little things better that I wish the Rev would have done. Like the magnets that hold the platters on instead for the plastic clips. That was a good idea. Also giving people the felt slipmats along with the plastic ones is nice too. Cutting up some slip mats to put in my Rev was a little bit of a pain. This is an excellent demo video of these 2 competing controllers. 👍
Great review fam. I still run my ol trusty 4 channel Denon MC7000 and have been wanting moving platters and dedicated stem controls for a while. I almost bought the Hercules T7 when it came out but now, I'm so happy I waited!! The RANE PERFORMER is just what the doctor ordered!!
With the new firmware update (v2.0.1) on the Pioneer Rev 7, there is stem split buttons...hold hot cue and press the scratch bank button. To enact the stem blue button function. So the Rev actually wins.... given its a 2 year controller.😊
Really appreciate that you shot this again from scratch! Enjoyed watching this new format, hoping to see more "And the winner is...?" videos in the future! (You've got the animations for it, might as well reuse them.) Backstreet works for Everybody
I was going to ditch my Rane One for the Rev7 I just loved the layout of the Rev7 with more features but I was givin a faulty Rev7 which I bought brand new from the box it put me off instantly so I went back to the Rane One lol.. Love my little tank😂
You can have cues and stems available at the same time on the rane four by holding the hot cue button and hitting the stem button while holding. That will split the pads where cues are on the top 4 pads and stems on the bottom 4. Is that not available anymore? You mentioned you wanted the stem pads available without pressing two things
@@ClevelandTerry Every review I have seen of the REV7 shows a 'gap' when moving the jogwheel back and forth quickly (scratching), it makes a noise, and has a slightly sloppy feel because of the small gap between the sensors picking up the movement when it changes direction. I have not owned one though, so I am only speaking from the experience of other people's reviews. The rane performer jog wheels do not do this due to the design.
The fact that you still need to connect a laptop doesn’t make it a “ kinda standalone “. The term standalone simply means no dependence on laptop. It won’t work without laptop connected.
Cleveland which one would go better with Virtual DJ ? I have used the Pioneer DDJ sx2, and the Pioneer DDJ sx3. I have never used anything rain with Virtual DJ?
I have both controllers the rev7 and the Rane Four Performer. Both controllers are good but when it comes to stems the Rane Four nails it! It's a different type of controller. I have much more fun using the Performer. My mixes on the Rane Four are way different from the rev7. The split stems take it to the next level. I like to split stem the track use the filter roll on the vocals believe me it sounds real cool or use the onboard FX that the new Rane four has other than just the echo. I can make my tracks sound like a remix using the cool new FX. The little screen on top of the pads I love so much they make a difference, I label my hot cues and acapellas and it will show on the little screen how I labeled them also for my samples so I know what samples I have. All I can say I have much more fun using the Rane Performer, I can be all day using the Rane Four coming up with crazy ideas. Can't wait to use it for my next gig.
Another big advantage of the REV7 is that you can distribute 12 effects directly to 2 FX A+B banks - so you have 18 effects with the factory setting (6) available at the touch of a button - this is not possible with the Rane. The smooth echo is also a cool thing with the REV7
Here's what I don't understand about the battle style on controllers. That method was only used to make it more convenient for turntablists to have a bigger area of the record to scratch etc. There's no two ways about it it's an awkward setup and seeing there is no time arm, it defies the point... the pitch being in an awkward position was a trade off & as much as I understand some may be used to it... it was always a compromise.
Speaking of longevity I ran the NS7 iii since 2015 nothing came close and the Rane 1 was just comparable. I had to buy a Rane 4 because Numark wouldn’t update the drivers to windows 11. I was the first in Michigan to get a Performer now it’s longevity will WAY OUT LIVE that Rev 7. It will be the new standard for other companies to live up to. It turns you into a musical magician. RIP Rev 7. Not knocking you guys that own one, to each his own.
I was young and dumb. Had a coffin with an amp with my mixer and turntables. I think 90% of the old school dj’s have back problems from the old heavy equipment.
Great comparison but there was no mention of screens over pads, or the ATrak fader effects on the Rane. I do think the effects overall sound better on the Pioneer but the possible creative uses of fader effects really makes me consider the Rane.
Absolutely reaffirms my decision to not buy the Performer. With the Rev 7, it's all I need. I spin primarily House Music here around Chicagoland. I'm not forgetting my power cord or need stem splitting. There's no 2 thousand dollar reason for me to move on to the Performer. I have the Rane One, which I do not even bother with, because the pitch on both sides is equally far off zero center. So I'm not sold on Rane quality with controllers. They get no more of my money! 12 years of Pioneer controllers, and I've had no issues! I still have and use my Pioneer DDJ-SX2!
@@SelenaHearts The Rane Four. I actually got to play with it hands on and it literally has a LOT of the Performer without the motorized jog wheels and the weight penalty.
Can you do a video like you did for the DDJ REV 7 where you access the channel faders? Rumor has it that on the Performer you can access the faders from the top of the controller like you can on the Rane 72 mixer? I'm now hearing from a few Performer users that you cannot access the faders and that they aren't user replaceable?
Man rane had a chance to really win a few people over but as someone that uses a rev but actually wants a rane I can’t do it. Rane needs a true battle style minimal version of the Rane one. The layout is what kills it for me. It’s a diarrhea of buttons. And stuff like the left pitch fader and right stop button being awkward position is a no go. Especially when motorize platters are supposed to be for a specific group of djs. They need a rane one special edition, no screen in the jog 2 ch with a true battle layout. With 1/3 the buttons. It only needs effects and stems. And the typical 8 pads. Or make a modular version (it would cost a ton) where you can move certain layouts
Prefer the Rev7 layout but not the build quality. Which would you recommend to a new buyer? Leaning towards the Rev7 but I feel it should be slightly cheaper now that the Performer is out.
Great content love it ❤! Question How did you hook up both controllers using the same system ? Question 2 how would I hook up two controllers and two computers to the same Sound system?
@@ClevelandTerry Thank you for getting back to me I appreciate it . I know this is a bit much but is there away you can draw up a schematic or make a vlog about to do or do you know another vlog that has all read done it and has it on there channel with the equipment that they use and cables need to hook all this up ? Thank you 🙏🏾
Great video Terry! 👏🏾 Both of these are heavy AF for mobile!! If you dj every so often and gig outside the house its OK. But if you spin 2 to 3 days out of the week, every week It gets to be a PIA. My REV5 is handsdown packed with features and lightweight for weekly gigs.
As you say it's all about preference and although minor I love that you can browse the library on the jog screens of the Rane. Less looking at the computer screen = better
I really like the Rev7 but it failed me in the middle of a gig: right platter started spinning backwards and then forward really fast. It was a nightmare. Went back to my good Ole 1000srt. I now have ptsd from buying new gear. Performer still looks tempting but I have better things to do with $2K lol. Good video as always!
It's good that you measure the controllers . I really thought the pioneer rev 1 was really small ,until I got the rev 1 it wasn't that bad although still easy to carry around. Moving on to the rane performer ,it's an amazing controller to have .the display screens are bigger and 4 channels. Also dedicated stems buttons
As always, great video and comparison. As a videographer/editor and DJ myself, I know lots of work goes into creating this content, appreciate you, Bro! You've stated many times, the perfect gear doesn't exist. I love the new Stem implementation on the Performer, but I prefer my pads in the middle like the Rev 7. Mainly due to my current muscle memory. The infamous 4 channel debate gives Rane the edge IMO. Unless there's a Summer Namm/Expo to skew my opinion! LOL!
THANK YOU!! For various reasons THIS is the video I’ve been waiting for since the Super Bowl. CT, when you’re done playing with the Rane will you be running back to the Rev 7 for your go to controller? With all of your gear you own do you even have a go to anymore,lol?
Once again, a very thorough review by CT! Both controllers are super-solid and you really cannot go wrong with either... I think it comes down to which features and/or layout suits you best.
Whats the difference between 2 and a 4 channel mixer.channel wise.let say if in case the 2 channels or at least of the asigned channels on the rane gone bad,can u asign another channel.where as the rev 7 has only 2.if in case obe gone bad,what do you do.are they replacable.
speaking of cases i just purchased the rev 7 to take the place of my ns7lll and i put it in the ns7lll case. had to add a little foam and now its great..
Love how you said the effects we use lol. Much as I love that pitch down effect on rev 7. I used it when I first got it. And went back to echo out. Out effects barely use. Especially with stems
If all I want is GOOD feeling controller vinyl feel Ia the Rane one is just as good? Or does the performer win, no contest? Like is the feel day amd night?... trying to figure out an easy BBQ party set up, and I have only used 1200s my entire career(Rane 62 mixer since 2013)
What would your take for a 2 channel set up between a REV 7 and a S7 or S11 w/ 2- Rane MK2? Not as portable and no stems on the S7 or S9. What would you go for? I do alot of bar gigs if that helps you out. Thanks Terry!
This is a good case in point for why competition is good for everyone. It's good for us because we get quality and options. It's good for companies because it inspires them to make a better product. I would argue that it's always been a good time to be a DJ, even in the late 70's when the disco clubs got MKII's with a pitch fader. Love that we don't have a monopoly in this industry being lackadaisical, I obviously realize Pioneer sets the club standard, but because of that fact they can't experiment as much as Denon does, for example, with their CDJs. Win win win for the DJ scene. We are blessed with all these wonderful toys!
Great vid, thank you. I def want a Performer but I know I don't need one. I knew it was bigger than the Rev-7 but seeing them together really is wild. Crazy how just a few inches add up.
at 21:30 when you compare the sound, to me I honestly don't tell a difference. Not sure if that's just my ears but personally I think they are both equally good
Good video comparison you went full in depth ,question can you point me to the place you buy your custom neon logo at the back (CLEVELAND TERRY) ,would love to have. A custom logo similar like this wit my Dj name ,thank you
Great review! What is the white skin you have on your Rev 7? Is that 12 inch skins? Would like to get a skin for that middle section for my Rev 7 that is becoming tattered and fading out around the crossfader area in the future.
That Microphone Attenuator on the Rev7 is GREAT for live-streaming if you have that Shure SM7b. No need for a Cloud Lifter, and you get that great echo effect that follows the BPM. It’s probably why they have that feature.
Ns7 is still a beast just heavy and weak mics ..but midi map stems to the five cue beside the decks makes it still relevant in today's controller market. I love mine with the dashboard
Both controllers are great. Coming from turntables…the Rev7 slightly wins for me due to its smaller weight and size. I got the rev7 for easy transport instead of lugging turntables to some gigs. Also, the buttons are not below the platters that can get in my way. The Rane is nice though, but i’m lazy and getting older. I don’t want to carry heavier gear than what I already have. I would get the Rane if i had extra money to burn.
I was waiting for a unit like the Rane Performer to come out after my NS7ii died, and wasn't happy with getting the Rev7 since it wasn't built natively with stems, so I bought the Inpulse T7, but now that I've been spoiled by an 11lbs controller, it's going to hurt going back up to a 28lbser. I'm hoping they will come up with an upgrade to the Rane One, I really don't think I'll use the stem features on the performer and I just want something that's more compact, lighter and streamlined, like the T7.
Buyer be very aware that the last unit the Rane 4 was plagued with issues I have one in which I repaired myself no thanks to Rane customer service. Do not jump out and spend your money right away Check all forums about both units and make a decision.
Ever think of doing a rewind. See how the Numark NS7iii stacks up against the new ones. I bet it would still do very well. I consider it the one all others are judged against.
Love your material, new subscriber, returning DJ, you help me make sense of the stuff I missed while I wasn’t spinning I return strictly for the love. I have been playing on the Rane 4 for about three weeks and I absolutely love it. I’m still debating if I can afford to upgrade to the Rane Performer. Cause, of course I learned on turntables. 🤨😕 buy something new and ne model come out before end of the month. I see that hasn’t changed.
So I have the rev7 and the Rane performer… I agree on a lot of the things you said in the video… thanks for making it.. I been using the rane for 3 days and I can’t get past the work flow of the buttons not being Battle style… that’s more of my style but every thing else is great on both controllers… I think I may stick with the rev7
Great review of both products. Sorry you had to record twice. I do think the Rane should've gotten a higher score than the Rev on Displays, even if it currently can't display logos. The versatility of the Performer should put it above. Also something worth noting is the Performer is going to be the better controller for those using virtual DJ. Especially with Stems.
Honestly, I heard it change with the rain 4 and I didn’t hear it change with the rev seven when you’re talking about the Mike echo but through TH-cam the rain performer sounds very high-end and tint opposed to the seven
They are two very different controllers and Rane the material is more resistant. The sound card is 32-bit and that of the REV 7 is 24-bit and you can tell the difference. They don't compete between them and Rane Performer is far above all the controllers. Please let me know when you find the STEM-SPLIT in the REV 7.
Loving the vid so far, just wanted to comment before I forget. You can switch the REV7 to mono in the utility menu on on the controller itself. Having a dedicated switch is nice though.
Hey CT, it was a great comparison and the fact that you use both is pretty Dope. That hate about the Technics t-shirt.......geeeees !! No worries....haters gonna hate !! 😂😂
Two different style controllers but REV 7 is great!!! The smaller profile just kills it for me when traveling. I personally don't need 4 channels and I love the battle mixer feel and where the pads are. Its quicker to navigate Stems with just the kill buttons than additional steps on the Performer. The only thing that kills it with the Performer is being able to have a non proprietary power cord and the bigger jog wheels.
No one or at least I have never seen anyone ever talk about the Rev 7 and how it sounds when scratching / back cueing. I love the layout. I love the pioneer effects and I have been irritated to this day why Rane did not put onboard effects on the Rane one. But as for a natural feel and sound. The Rane one kills it when it come to that and that platter. I personally hate the pioneer platter. I hate that I can’t adjust the feel like I want and when scratching it sounds so digital. Of course it’s worst with key lock on. But when you take key lock off you can still hear an element of the sound. I just need to know if the Rane performer does it better. Did Rane correct that and does the back cueing sound similar to the Rane one, Rane 12’s, etc…
I don't mind that unit carrying it around. Once you've carried vinyl and turntables in a large flight case this is nothing compared to that Oh and let's not forget separate powered amplifier and speakers.
Facts!!
Facts!!!!! Crates alone used to be alot
Yup carrying five 50lbs milk crates of records into the club back in the 90s and early 2000s, sucked
This review is contradicting in my opinion
Cleveland gave me 4 18” earthquakes and 4 2kw amps with rolling boxes. Heaviest shit I’ve ever had to drag to the desert. But it smashes at those desert parties and it’s impressive looking. Thanks Cleveland!
Thank you for comparison for both controllers. You’re making me happy with my decision to keep both my Rev7 and 1000-SRT. I had the Rane 4 and I had to take it back. But now seeing this comparison between the Performer and Rev7 is really no difference. I’m definitely keeping my Rev7 and I’m not even gonna think about getting the Performer. Thank you for your honest and unbiased opinion. Much love to you.
Same here. I am keeping Rev 7 and my SRT 1000.. many thanks for the review..
great review and thanks. I had the Rev 7 and traded it in for the Performer and could not be happier and mainly for these reasons: Four channels, non proprietary power cord, on board stem controls, also for what ever reason, my Rev 7 was very glitchy with both Serato and Rekordbox.. no issues at all with the Performer (Serato) which i prefer anyawys. Also appreciate the metal build w/ feet on bottom. The Jogs are a tad bigger and super torquey and responsive. when i attach turn tables or cdj's etc, the four channels come in handy or I can use four deck channels internally as well. True they are both great, but at the same price point I just see so much more value and capability with the Performer and am very happy I got it. Cheers!
Excellent
The REV 7 already won for me because I bought mine 2 years ago. The way my checking and savings are setup, I can’t succumb to gear lust!
bro you gotta run some heists, that's all
Naa bro, stems alone sets it apart, if u are going to by 1 today, at the same price ur going Rane bro@LocutusOfWarborgOneOfOne
@@nayaleezywhat’s a heist?
Thanks brother for the great info I’m a rev7 user.. I’m very happy with my controller..
Awesome breakdown. If I didn't already have the Rev and I was trying to decide between the 2, after watching g this I would still go with the Rev just cause of personal preference and it having the same layout as my S11 and Rane twelves. Also I had the 1000SRT and I never used channels 3 & 4 on that so the other faders and eq knobs are just clutter to me.
But I do think Rane did a couple little things better that I wish the Rev would have done. Like the magnets that hold the platters on instead for the plastic clips. That was a good idea. Also giving people the felt slipmats along with the plastic ones is nice too. Cutting up some slip mats to put in my Rev was a little bit of a pain.
This is an excellent demo video of these 2 competing controllers. 👍
Thank for doing this comparison, its helped me a lot. Rev 7 for me I think
Thank you CT for your time making this comparison video
Great review fam. I still run my ol trusty 4 channel Denon MC7000 and have been wanting moving platters and dedicated stem controls for a while. I almost bought the Hercules T7 when it came out but now, I'm so happy I waited!! The RANE PERFORMER is just what the doctor ordered!!
With the new firmware update (v2.0.1) on the Pioneer Rev 7, there is stem split buttons...hold hot cue and press the scratch bank button. To enact the stem blue button function. So the Rev actually wins.... given its a 2 year controller.😊
You are a real one! Getting the people the info we need.
Really appreciate that you shot this again from scratch! Enjoyed watching this new format, hoping to see more "And the winner is...?" videos in the future! (You've got the animations for it, might as well reuse them.)
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Great review as always Terry. I’m sticking with my RANE ONE lol
Good idea my brother. Save your money. At the end of the day it’s all about better sound quality and great music.
Me too haha still enjoying it! Just wait till it’s older and a new rane controller will be out and we will be ready for it!
I was going to ditch my Rane One for the Rev7 I just loved the layout of the Rev7 with more features but I was givin a faulty Rev7 which I bought brand new from the box it put me off instantly so I went back to the Rane One lol.. Love my little tank😂
DITTO. My one is fine.
LOVE MY DJ REV -7 ITS THE BEST FOR ME... DJ1740 GOOD TO SEE YOU C.T. HAVE A GREAT WEEKED...
You can have cues and stems available at the same time on the rane four by holding the hot cue button and hitting the stem button while holding. That will split the pads where cues are on the top 4 pads and stems on the bottom 4. Is that not available anymore? You mentioned you wanted the stem pads available without pressing two things
What about the annoying sloppyness and clicky sound when trying to scratch on the Rev7 platter ?
@@DjNikGnashers I don’t get a clicky sound on my rev platters My slip mats are felt.
@@ClevelandTerry Every review I have seen of the REV7 shows a 'gap' when moving the jogwheel back and forth quickly (scratching), it makes a noise, and has a slightly sloppy feel because of the small gap between the sensors picking up the movement when it changes direction.
I have not owned one though, so I am only speaking from the experience of other people's reviews.
The rane performer jog wheels do not do this due to the design.
The Rane is kinda standalone, because you can close your laptop lid, and DJ with the unit, because the crates are visible in the turntable display.
Have you actually been able to fully close the laptop and use it that way? That would be great.
The fact that you still need to connect a laptop doesn’t make it a “ kinda standalone “. The term standalone simply means no dependence on laptop. It won’t work without laptop connected.
Cleveland which one would go better with Virtual DJ ? I have used the Pioneer DDJ sx2, and the Pioneer DDJ sx3. I have never used anything rain with Virtual DJ?
I love my REV7 so much I want another one for my house...
I have both controllers the rev7 and the Rane Four Performer. Both controllers are good but when it comes to stems the Rane Four nails it! It's a different type of controller. I have much more fun using the Performer. My mixes on the Rane Four are way different from the rev7. The split stems take it to the next level. I like to split stem the track use the filter roll on the vocals believe me it sounds real cool or use the onboard FX that the new Rane four has other than just the echo. I can make my tracks sound like a remix using the cool new FX. The little screen on top of the pads I love so much they make a difference, I label my hot cues and acapellas and it will show on the little screen how I labeled them also for my samples so I know what samples I have. All I can say I have much more fun using the Rane Performer, I can be all day using the Rane Four coming up with crazy ideas. Can't wait to use it for my next gig.
Another big advantage of the REV7 is that you can distribute 12 effects directly to 2 FX A+B banks - so you have 18 effects with the factory setting (6) available at the touch of a button - this is not possible with the Rane.
The smooth echo is also a cool thing with the REV7
Here's what I don't understand about the battle style on controllers. That method was only used to make it more convenient for turntablists to have a bigger area of the record to scratch etc. There's no two ways about it it's an awkward setup and seeing there is no time arm, it defies the point... the pitch being in an awkward position was a trade off & as much as I understand some may be used to it... it was always a compromise.
Speaking of longevity I ran the NS7 iii since 2015 nothing came close and the Rane 1 was just comparable. I had to buy a Rane 4 because Numark wouldn’t update the drivers to windows 11. I was the first in Michigan to get a Performer now it’s longevity will WAY OUT LIVE that Rev 7. It will be the new standard for other companies to live up to. It turns you into a musical magician. RIP Rev 7. Not knocking you guys that own one, to each his own.
Good review! Ultimately it's what fits that DJ the best, but it's cool that you showed the side by side pros and cons of both units.
I don’t tell people what works best for them. They are free to buy whatever they want with absolutely no judgement from me.
Ok, so when does the pioneer version with 4 decks come out?
2 1200's a 19" mixer in a coffin in the 80's to now is Gorge Jetson. 💯
That classic setup is always golden 💪🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I used the coffin maybe once then got flight cases for each table.
Always!!!
I was young and dumb. Had a coffin with an amp with my mixer and turntables. I think 90% of the old school dj’s have back problems from the old heavy equipment.
Great comparison but there was no mention of screens over pads, or the ATrak fader effects on the Rane. I do think the effects overall sound better on the Pioneer but the possible creative uses of fader effects really makes me consider the Rane.
Absolutely reaffirms my decision to not buy the Performer. With the Rev 7, it's all I need. I spin primarily House Music here around Chicagoland. I'm not forgetting my power cord or need stem splitting. There's no 2 thousand dollar reason for me to move on to the Performer. I have the Rane One, which I do not even bother with, because the pitch on both sides is equally far off zero center. So I'm not sold on Rane quality with controllers. They get no more of my money! 12 years of Pioneer controllers, and I've had no issues! I still have and use my Pioneer DDJ-SX2!
I get that
I am looking at the Performer and the Rane Four. I am planning to check them out to see how they feel to me before I plunk the coin.
What did u decide?!😊
@@SelenaHearts The Rane Four. I actually got to play with it hands on and it literally has a LOT of the Performer without the motorized jog wheels and the weight penalty.
@@PrinzII yay ❤ love thisss! I’ve gone for the Rane Four thank you 😊 should arrive tomorrow excitedddd
Can you do a video like you did for the DDJ REV 7 where you access the channel faders? Rumor has it that on the Performer you can access the faders from the top of the controller like you can on the Rane 72 mixer? I'm now hearing from a few Performer users that you cannot access the faders and that they aren't user replaceable?
I plan to upgrade from NS7ii to the Performer.
Excellent review! Thank you!
Man rane had a chance to really win a few people over but as someone that uses a rev but actually wants a rane I can’t do it. Rane needs a true battle style minimal version of the Rane one. The layout is what kills it for me. It’s a diarrhea of buttons. And stuff like the left pitch fader and right stop button being awkward position is a no go. Especially when motorize platters are supposed to be for a specific group of djs. They need a rane one special edition, no screen in the jog 2 ch with a true battle layout. With 1/3 the buttons. It only needs effects and stems. And the typical 8 pads. Or make a modular version (it would cost a ton) where you can move certain layouts
I agree
Prefer the Rev7 layout but not the build quality. Which would you recommend to a new buyer? Leaning towards the Rev7 but I feel it should be slightly cheaper now that the Performer is out.
Great content love it ❤! Question How did you hook up both controllers using the same system ? Question 2 how would I hook up two controllers and two computers to the same Sound system?
I had two computers. Going through a separate mixer for both.
@@ClevelandTerry Thank you for getting back to me I appreciate it . I know this is a bit much but is there away you can draw up a schematic or make a vlog about to do or do you know another vlog that has all read done it and has it on there channel with the equipment that they use and cables need to hook all this up ? Thank you 🙏🏾
Great video Terry! 👏🏾
Both of these are heavy AF for mobile!! If you dj every so often and gig outside the house its OK. But if you spin 2 to 3 days out of the week, every week It gets to be a PIA. My REV5 is handsdown packed with features and lightweight for weekly gigs.
The Rev 7 is very solid. Pioneer knock it out of the park a long while ago and it still reigns. I’m good with it…
Great comparison review. You’ve convinced me to keep both to leverage for different applications.
As you say it's all about preference and although minor I love that you can browse the library on the jog screens of the Rane. Less looking at the computer screen = better
I really like the Rev7 but it failed me in the middle of a gig: right platter started spinning backwards and then forward really fast. It was a nightmare. Went back to my good Ole 1000srt. I now have ptsd from buying new gear. Performer still looks tempting but I have better things to do with $2K lol. Good video as always!
The srt always do that to me , over it
It's good that you measure the controllers . I really thought the pioneer rev 1 was really small ,until I got the rev 1 it wasn't that bad although still easy to carry around.
Moving on to the rane performer ,it's an amazing controller to have .the display screens are bigger and 4 channels. Also dedicated stems buttons
Great video.. I read some of the comments about the shirt.. didn’t see an issue.. thought it was classic 😂😂
As always, great video and comparison. As a videographer/editor and DJ myself, I know lots of work goes into creating this content, appreciate you, Bro! You've stated many times, the perfect gear doesn't exist. I love the new Stem implementation on the Performer, but I prefer my pads in the middle like the Rev 7. Mainly due to my current muscle memory. The infamous 4 channel debate gives Rane the edge IMO. Unless there's a Summer Namm/Expo to skew my opinion! LOL!
Great review can wait to get the rane
THANK YOU!! For various reasons THIS is the video I’ve been waiting for since the Super Bowl.
CT, when you’re done playing with the Rane will you be running back to the Rev 7 for your go to controller? With all of your gear you own do you even have a go to anymore,lol?
Truthfully, I like them both but because of the added weight and size the Rane is going into my furniture. I’ll use the rev for everything else
I can't find this info at all, anywhere. Does the Performer have any way of using FLIP??
The Rane faders are all interchangeable with the crossfader…the Rev is not…the major difference is how one’s brain works…I think they are both amazing
The Performer line and crossfader are different... the CF is a mag4 and the LF are Precision Feel Fader
Once again, a very thorough review by CT! Both controllers are super-solid and you really cannot go wrong with either... I think it comes down to which features and/or layout suits you best.
Thanks for this video....btw, the new intro is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Im getting the Performer. Glad i waited to get a controller. Might try the hybrid turntables later. I came up on turntables.
Hey love your programs ..do you have any videos on sound quality between the different models of flagship pioneers..or pioneers vs rane ?
The feet can be Removed from the Rane if you don't like the height. Just Removed the 4 Philip screws.
Yes I know. I didn’t say it was a problem.
Whats the difference between 2 and a 4 channel mixer.channel wise.let say if in case the 2 channels or at least of the asigned channels on the rane gone bad,can u asign another channel.where as the rev 7 has only 2.if in case obe gone bad,what do you do.are they replacable.
speaking of cases i just purchased the rev 7 to take the place of my ns7lll and i put it in the ns7lll case. had to add a little foam and now its great..
Love how you said the effects we use lol. Much as I love that pitch down effect on rev 7. I used it when I first got it. And went back to echo out. Out effects barely use. Especially with stems
i"m curious what is the size comparison of the Rane Performer and a SZ2?
If all I want is GOOD feeling controller vinyl feel
Ia the Rane one is just as good?
Or does the performer win, no contest?
Like is the feel day amd night?...
trying to figure out an easy BBQ party set up, and I have only used 1200s my entire career(Rane 62 mixer since 2013)
What would your take for a 2 channel set up between a REV 7 and a S7 or S11 w/ 2- Rane MK2? Not as portable and no stems on the S7 or S9. What would you go for? I do alot of bar gigs if that helps you out. Thanks Terry!
This is a good case in point for why competition is good for everyone. It's good for us because we get quality and options. It's good for companies because it inspires them to make a better product. I would argue that it's always been a good time to be a DJ, even in the late 70's when the disco clubs got MKII's with a pitch fader. Love that we don't have a monopoly in this industry being lackadaisical, I obviously realize Pioneer sets the club standard, but because of that fact they can't experiment as much as Denon does, for example, with their CDJs. Win win win for the DJ scene. We are blessed with all these wonderful toys!
Agreed
i love your reviews and channel. God Bless keep doing your thing. 🎉
Great vid, thank you. I def want a Performer but I know I don't need one. I knew it was bigger than the Rev-7 but seeing them together really is wild. Crazy how just a few inches add up.
Yup
at 21:30 when you compare the sound, to me I honestly don't tell a difference. Not sure if that's just my ears but personally I think they are both equally good
Good video comparison you went full in depth ,question can you point me to the place you buy your custom neon logo at the back (CLEVELAND TERRY) ,would love to have. A custom logo similar like this wit my Dj name ,thank you
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Does this controller have a helpful switch that does beat matching? the rev-7?
Both have sync
Great review! What is the white skin you have on your Rev 7? Is that 12 inch skins? Would like to get a skin for that middle section for my Rev 7 that is becoming tattered and fading out around the crossfader area in the future.
You should have done a comparison on the platter connection types too. I think the magnets on the rane are way better than the clips on the rev.
It's negligible. They both do the job.
2nd time is a charm, great video! Thanks for the info. Looking forward for the next one! Feliz fin de semana!🎉👏👏🇲🇽
That Microphone Attenuator on the Rev7 is GREAT for live-streaming if you have that Shure SM7b. No need for a Cloud Lifter, and you get that great echo effect that follows the BPM. It’s probably why they have that feature.
I guarantee they weren’t thinking about streaming. It’s a pioneer thing.
Great catch on the Rev7 echo feature with pitch changes. 💪🏾. Solid review between these two monsters 👹
thank you very much. That was great. I am looking to replace my N7III in the house with this one. I also have the rev seven
Ns7 is still a beast just heavy and weak mics ..but midi map stems to the five cue beside the decks makes it still relevant in today's controller market. I love mine with the dashboard
You can't go wrong with that Black Technics T Shirt...I have one and would have done the same thing...
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Why no twitter anymore? Hmmm
My first time watching and listening to your video. Your video was very informative. Thanks for the info. I'm going with the performer.
Great review! I've watched a few of your videos and they're very insightful. Keep up the great work!
Nice battle and great review. 👍👍
The power connection has been my only grip with the rev 7. It should have a cable oppose to a dc adapter
Oh I forgot to mention.. the Rev Should have had feet. Many users manualy put on feet. Besides that I'm Team Rev 7
Both controllers are great. Coming from turntables…the Rev7 slightly wins for me due to its smaller weight and size. I got the rev7 for easy transport instead of lugging turntables to some gigs. Also, the buttons are not below the platters that can get in my way. The Rane is nice though, but i’m lazy and getting older. I don’t want to carry heavier gear than what I already have. I would get the Rane if i had extra money to burn.
Yes Sir
Much love fam!
Can you do a update on the rev 5 vs rev 7
In what capacity? They are completely different machines.
THIS WAS AN INCREDIBLE COMPARISON VID‼️ thx CT
I was waiting for a unit like the Rane Performer to come out after my NS7ii died, and wasn't happy with getting the Rev7 since it wasn't built natively with stems, so I bought the Inpulse T7, but now that I've been spoiled by an 11lbs controller, it's going to hurt going back up to a 28lbser. I'm hoping they will come up with an upgrade to the Rane One, I really don't think I'll use the stem features on the performer and I just want something that's more compact, lighter and streamlined, like the T7.
Buyer be very aware that the last unit the Rane 4 was plagued with issues I have one in which I repaired myself no thanks to Rane customer service. Do not jump out and spend your money right away Check all forums about both units and make a decision.
@@roymoxley2587 The same goes for Pioneer.
Ever think of doing a rewind. See how the Numark NS7iii stacks up against the new ones. I bet it would still do very well. I consider it the one all others are judged against.
Great Review Cleve!!!!!
Im confused why I keep seeing this comparison. Wouldn't it be more apples to apples with Rane One vs Rev 7?
No. The Rane One is as basic as they come. The Rane performer, even though it’s a 4 channel mixer, with stems it’s only 2 channels.
Great review. Thanks
Love your material, new subscriber, returning DJ, you help me make sense of the stuff I missed while I wasn’t spinning I return strictly for the love. I have been playing on the Rane 4 for about three weeks and I absolutely love it. I’m still debating if I can afford to upgrade to the Rane Performer. Cause, of course I learned on turntables. 🤨😕 buy something new and ne model come out before end of the month. I see that hasn’t changed.
This was all over the internet from super bowl..we just did not know they were going to drop it.
@@trelawnytownmaroons8456 Yep same here , all good Rane 4 is really nice. I still have 12s I need to bust off. They will work on this controller.
So I have the rev7 and the Rane performer… I agree on a lot of the things you said in the video… thanks for making it.. I been using the rane for 3 days and I can’t get past the work flow of the buttons not being Battle style… that’s more of my style but every thing else is great on both controllers… I think I may stick with the rev7
Great review of both products. Sorry you had to record twice.
I do think the Rane should've gotten a higher score than the Rev on Displays, even if it currently can't display logos. The versatility of the Performer should put it above. Also something worth noting is the Performer is going to be the better controller for those using virtual DJ. Especially with Stems.
Honestly, I heard it change with the rain 4 and I didn’t hear it change with the rev seven when you’re talking about the Mike echo but through TH-cam the rain performer sounds very high-end and tint opposed to the seven
Not high end…different color, like I said. It’s truly a preference thing.
Awesome comparison Sir!
Why are there magnets there?
still waiting for the REV-9
They are two very different controllers and Rane the material is more resistant. The sound card is 32-bit and that of the REV 7 is 24-bit and you can tell the difference. They don't compete between them and Rane Performer is far above all the controllers. Please let me know when you find the STEM-SPLIT in the REV 7.
Loving the vid so far, just wanted to comment before I forget. You can switch the REV7 to mono in the utility menu on on the controller itself. Having a dedicated switch is nice though.
Hey CT, it was a great comparison and the fact that you use both is pretty Dope. That hate about the Technics t-shirt.......geeeees !! No worries....haters gonna hate !! 😂😂
Two different style controllers but REV 7 is great!!! The smaller profile just kills it for me when traveling. I personally don't need 4 channels and I love the battle mixer feel and where the pads are. Its quicker to navigate Stems with just the kill buttons than additional steps on the Performer. The only thing that kills it with the Performer is being able to have a non proprietary power cord and the bigger jog wheels.
Hércules impulse t7 premium is another good choice 👍
I have the Pioneer Rev 7, is it worth selling it and buying the Rane???
Bro watch the video.
No
No one or at least I have never seen anyone ever talk about the Rev 7 and how it sounds when scratching / back cueing. I love the layout. I love the pioneer effects and I have been irritated to this day why Rane did not put onboard effects on the Rane one. But as for a natural feel and sound. The Rane one kills it when it come to that and that platter. I personally hate the pioneer platter. I hate that I can’t adjust the feel like I want and when scratching it sounds so digital. Of course it’s worst with key lock on. But when you take key lock off you can still hear an element of the sound. I just need to know if the Rane performer does it better. Did Rane correct that and does the back cueing sound similar to the Rane one, Rane 12’s, etc…
Don't use keylock. You don't need it and using it is detrimental not beneficial.