The vibration dampner is just another thing to break. Commericail Electrician here. I use the DCH 133 day in and day out no issues hasnt failed on me in 4 years whereas the DCH 273 owned by a coworker has been in repairs twice. To each their own. If you want a workhorse, get the 133 if you have baby soft hands get the 273.
@rod82nd Yeah yeah off coarse …my mom vagina also get fucked many times and nothing happen ! Then came my daddy and get her pregnant!Shits happens 😂!! Nice video BTW.
Yeah… I already noticed that seemingly half the DeWALT repair videos are the XR SDS and above hammer drill… not counting batteries, of course. Seems to be a lemon, like the 2x20V Max mowers have been so far (2nd gen was spoiled by DCB210 battery issues 3rd gen just started so we’ll see). It’s just one of those cases where I’d rather have the non-XR tool.
I've just ordered the dch133 after mulling it over and finally coming to a decision after watching your vid! Cheers, great vid, perfectly detailed approach!! Best review of its sort.
great point about 'faster' not always being better....even though that vibration gauge gave a measurable difference in how the tools worked... you gave an even better hint at how the Long Boy worked when in a clip you flexed your hand to restore feeling ("okay" says I, message understood)
Been using the 273 for about 3-4 years off and on and I think it's size is what initially sold me. It's nice to have a smaller unit to fit above T-Bar ceilings.
I hope you get more subscriber, and start making some money to help pay for this tools, your the only channel that does actual real Hammer drill test on TH-cam and you got great testing method. Please everyone like his video especially if the content is useful. Also do you take free tools so we can help out with some you dont already have. I appreciate all the testing you have done
one large bonus of the 273 is that it's able to be fit with the dust extractor as well, and in some countries, workers are required to use extractors when drilling/cutting concrete because the silica dust is linked to cancer in instances of longer exposure.
Yeah it's very cool! I think the big spring on the 273 takes some of the impact out of the hammer. In other words, the vibration dampening works a little too well! She's still a great tool tho, one of my faves
I just got rid of another non-controlled vibration hammer tool - not again! Hey, there is also another point into the test - see how easily you can operate tools with one hand ?! (I use very often in my work). Thanks for review!
One handed upwards, horizontal? I'm trying to build something to test that but I don't know if it'll work 😅. But yes I'll see what I can do. What drills are you using?
DCH273 has this typical shape built for construction workers who need to have the most compact tools using them all day long in all kind of positions, i had the dch133 before its powerful but not well balanced ... By the way could you tell me your opinion on the différence between the dch273 and both the makitas dhr243 and dhr182 ? Also take a look at the Hilti te6 its well balanced, has good anti vibration system and very powerful perfect for construction , im curious to see it compared to milwaukees and others
I bought the 133 for installing 1/4” tap cons over head. Way better than a regular hammer drill and drills just as fast if not faster than the companies cordless $600 hilti. The Hilti will probably stand the test of time better but for now the 133 is fast and light.
Good video as always, I liked the standard wood drilling test as well which I guess gives an indication of the torque too. Would be nice to see some wood drilling in upcoming videos. To me the 273 both sounds and looks more like the 263 than the 133, but I guess we already know from one of your other videos that the 263 beats the 133. Would you consider doing decibel measurements in the future as well?
Yeah I ran out of tree so the old torque test is finished. I'm not sure if I can do the wood drilling test repeatably as different parts of wood drill different speeds, but I'd like to do something like that as it's pretty informative I think. And yeah sound level is easy. But the acoustics within the different tool shells will make motors sound different. Maybe better to check part diagrams or dissect drills to see what's going on inside? What are you looking for?
I would be happy to consult with you before I buy, I am debating between two sets: First set from Kita: Impact screwdriver XDT19, called in Israel (DTD172Z) DHR242 hammer Includes 2 5 amp batteries and a fast charger The second set is from DeWalt: Dch263 Patichon Dcf850 Impact 2 5 amp batteries and a fast charger post Scriptum What is most important to me is reliability, the company's service, workforce 💪 and longevity. I don't use tools for everyday purpose Thank you very much for the help
I own the DCH133. It happily drills into reinforced concrete (carbide bit needed), chips concrete no problem. For a home gamer it's good enough and then some.
Buy some anti vibration gloves with the DCH133 Plus 20% quicker drilling, then multiply that by fixing 1,000 ceiling anchors on a construction site for example, 20% less time holding a heavier drill overhead, you should have used the DCH263 for a better fairer comparison and still a lot cheaper, your basically paying double for two springs, a diode and a belt clip, you can buy a belt clip for the DCH133 and DCH263 for pennies. It all gets to confusing as DeWalt has far too many combi hammer and rotary impact drills, love your videos by the way but a little criticism is good don't you think. 👍👍
Valid points! the 263 in my market (Canada) is about $90 cheaper, and based upon the specs slide, the 263 is 3J x 4300 IPM, which is just in between. But it has the bonus of the vibration control. I suspect if you're doing work in tighter spaces, it makes sense to have the 273, but otherwise doesn't make any sense to get the 273 over the 263 since the 133 basically wins out in every way and the 263 is a slight "improvement" upon it.
@@thudang3039did you see the part in the video where he said to get the 273 if you do a lot of drilling because it really makes a big difference to your hands, and he then showed the clip of him shaking his sore hands after using the 133? I like his summary of 273 if you do a lot of drilling especially bigger things. 133 if you do smaller or infrequent. I drill concrete most days. I've used both and I prefer the 273. It's very smooth and the short length bullpup style means I can work in tighter spaces. The 133 is great value. Some guys have that, others have 273.
Greetings. According to your recommendation, which drill is better for hobby use. Is there a big difference in dimensions and weight? And is there a big difference in power?
They are identical batteries. Dewalt labels it as 20v here in the US for a marketing gimmick. Most of the time the battery itself is putting out under 18v in power while running. The Milwaukee on the other hand puts out about 19v while running. It’s just a gimmick, but I’m sure it helps sell tools.
In a long term DCH273 is better because of his compact body and mostly because of the anti -vibration sistem . If you work every day with this tool, you will feel it .
You have a catapult and a rusty armature on your bench. Now explain how they go together. BTW, the user was UnfairManagement, Tool Surgeon is their flair
Haha those are there to remind me to do something with them. I have a few other siege engines to build and that motor was from a drill I restored back in May! There is so much footage I can't get through it all. Currently the video is 2 hours long
hi if you could help me, whats the newer version of the dch 133? its better to buy this rotary hammer or should i consider de dcd460t2? i mostly use on wood and concrete, damaged a dcd985 on wood so i need something stronger
The 133 would actually have less torque than the 985 as rotary hammers don't cut the material with their rotation but just remove the dust with it. Depending on what size holes you're drilling in concrete (presumably small if you're using a hammer drill) consider a smaller rotary hammer like the Dch172. It'll kick a hammer drills' ass. Without knowing what kind of work you're doing I suggest looking at DCH 172 for concrete and another drill-driver with more torque than the 985( or just another 985 since it'll be doing less work) Check this out: th-cam.com/video/Q0ZqHmUHtUI/w-d-xo.html
Hi im wanting to buy the 133 or advertise as 133NX-J. But.... because of the recent commercial jobsite WHS rules, I need a dust extractor and I see one for the dewalt 263 version which looks identical to the 133? Can you suggest a universal version or does the 133 have same dimensions as a 263 model? Any reply appreciated 👍
Is there any reason the DCH273 couldn't drill 29mm // 1-1/8" into concrete? I know it's beyond rating. I'm actually trying to decide between DCH273 & 263 W/ dust extractor.
I'm sure it could, once or twice. But if you're regularly drilling that big you'd really want an SDS max drill. I think out of the two you mentioned go the 273 if you're mostly drilling around 5/8 or below, & 263 if you're mostly drilling say 5/8 to say 7/8. If you want to regularly drill bigger then that, consider a bigger drill than the 263
I mostly do a pretty even spread of 1/2" 3/8" and the odd 5/8" run and feel like the DCH273 is the correct fit. There are so many things to consider though. I.E ergonomics of even the dust extractor itself. My eye tells me the DWH205DH dust extractor is a little more practical. Also, I like the idea that if I need to clean up a concrete floor or wall penetration some time, the 263's 50% more chipping power might be the difference between practical chipping or not. ( having used neither ) How do you feel with chipping in the equation, is the difference between the two worth considering or would they both be impractical? @@BoltahDownunder
Agreed re the 273, but I know nothing about dust extractor so can't comment there. Chipping is also hard to say, because it's highly a variable application. Stripping tiles? 273 should be fine. Breaking up concrete blocks? 263
#1-Would you know if you can change out the chuck on the 263 for a standard chuck? #2-Also can either dust collector be mounted without the handle? #3-And does the 263 require me to remove the handle to dismount the dust collector? -thanks for the help btw, I'll be making my decision tonight. @@BoltahDownunder
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. I especially appreciate the tear down bit, and additional info from other sources too! Great channel! Saw your other video on the 133 vs 263, and it seems the 263 makes a strong argument for the middle ground, with the 273 being a more "niche" item due to its more compact size. I can't see why, but watch me encounter a situation within a stud bay or something where I'll be wishing in that instance I bought the 273. LOL Maybe the Chin here is trying to pass off a more "premium" vibe looking more like its Flexvolt bigger sibling (832). BTW, the simple raw maths did it for me - makes sense for my case that I wouldn't be bothered by the longer size but could benefit from the happy medium of the 263 and save myself the money.
Thanks mate! The chin is a super interesting tool I think they may have come up with the internal vibration dampening and run with it as a sort of primo feeling drill while also being a little different. The downside is of course those springs dampen the impact force too, so it doesn't end up as powerful as the others. However, she's hands down the nicest hammer to use of any I've tried, and I have like 50! A real winner if you drill all day every day, but probably not worth the price if you're a more casual concrete perforator.
If I remember correctly DeWalt can't sell "20v" batteries in other countries because they're all actually 18v batteries that they call 20v. In the other countries they're labeled as 18v because that's the actual output.
@@smky143 yeah I think they're 20 fully charged but only capable of outputting 18 sustained volts or something to that effect. The back of the boxes all say something like *18 volts nominal
@@Steam_Engenius I guess they call them 20 so people don't think they can use the older 18v labeled batteries though I don't think they have the same connector, thanks for the help.
They're the same batteries, just labelled differently for different markets. The cells are nominally 3.6 volts each, 5 in series is 18V. Sometimes that's rounded up to 20v max/peak. the battery will sit around 20v when idle &18 under load. I believe the EU doesn't let them round up to 20V so DeWalt does a version called 20v and outside US they go with 18V
![DCH263 vs DCH333 [DeWalt SDS rotary hammer showdown]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Rq6rEb484A/mqdefault.jpg)
Excellent job reviewing these two tools! Your information has helped me decide which device to purchase. Killer review
The vibration dampner is just another thing to break. Commericail Electrician here. I use the DCH 133 day in and day out no issues hasnt failed on me in 4 years whereas the DCH 273 owned by a coworker has been in repairs twice. To each their own. If you want a workhorse, get the 133 if you have baby soft hands get the 273.
"Baby soft hands..." hahaha oh I can hear the banter from here.
@rod82nd Yeah yeah off coarse …my mom vagina also get fucked many times and nothing happen ! Then came my daddy and get her pregnant!Shits happens 😂!! Nice video BTW.
No lie, I’ve been reading the horrors on the larger unit. The trigger likes to go out and the part alone is 235+
Yeah… I already noticed that seemingly half the DeWALT repair videos are the XR SDS and above hammer drill… not counting batteries, of course. Seems to be a lemon, like the 2x20V Max mowers have been so far (2nd gen was spoiled by DCB210 battery issues 3rd gen just started so we’ll see). It’s just one of those cases where I’d rather have the non-XR tool.
Idk ive had the 273 for over 3 years now and its still going strong. I dont abuse it though, for tougher jobs i use a corded hammer drill
I've just ordered the dch133 after mulling it over and finally coming to a decision after watching your vid! Cheers, great vid, perfectly detailed approach!! Best review of its sort.
great point about 'faster' not always being better....even though that vibration gauge gave a measurable difference in how the tools worked... you gave an even better hint at how the Long Boy worked when in a clip you flexed your hand to restore feeling ("okay" says I, message understood)
Been using the 273 for about 3-4 years off and on and I think it's size is what initially sold me. It's nice to have a smaller unit to fit above T-Bar ceilings.
Would you recommend the 273?
This is the video that I've been looking for. Thank you.
I hope you get more subscriber, and start making some money to help pay for this tools, your the only channel that does actual real Hammer drill test on TH-cam and you got great testing method. Please everyone like his video especially if the content is useful. Also do you take free tools so we can help out with some you dont already have. I appreciate all the testing you have done
Great review. Makes me realise now that I'm glad I purchased the DCH 133, and at some difference in price too. Happy days !!! 👌
one large bonus of the 273 is that it's able to be fit with the dust extractor as well, and in some countries, workers are required to use extractors when drilling/cutting concrete because the silica dust is linked to cancer in instances of longer exposure.
Great shootout/review mate, superb info!
Great review and comparison. Thank you
Best video description I have seen on TH-cam ever
The Bosch anti-vibration mechanism was awesome to watch. Rather surprised the cheaper tool had an edge on performance!
Yeah it's very cool! I think the big spring on the 273 takes some of the impact out of the hammer. In other words, the vibration dampening works a little too well! She's still a great tool tho, one of my faves
I just got rid of another non-controlled vibration hammer tool - not again! Hey, there is also another point into the test - see how easily you can operate tools with one hand ?! (I use very often in my work). Thanks for review!
One handed upwards, horizontal? I'm trying to build something to test that but I don't know if it'll work 😅. But yes I'll see what I can do. What drills are you using?
@@BoltahDownunder I like Bosch 5X or 7X drills
DCH273 has this typical shape built for construction workers who need to have the most compact tools using them all day long in all kind of positions, i had the dch133 before its powerful but not well balanced ... By the way could you tell me your opinion on the différence between the dch273 and both the makitas dhr243 and dhr182 ?
Also take a look at the Hilti te6 its well balanced, has good anti vibration system and very powerful perfect for construction , im curious to see it compared to milwaukees and others
Very in depth video. Learned a lot! Thank you!
I bought the 133 for installing 1/4” tap cons over head. Way better than a regular hammer drill and drills just as fast if not faster than the companies cordless $600 hilti. The Hilti will probably stand the test of time better but for now the 133 is fast and light.
A lot of guys on here are saying their 133 is unkillable. Maybe not 20 years life like the Hilti but a good while
Good video as always, I liked the standard wood drilling test as well which I guess gives an indication of the torque too. Would be nice to see some wood drilling in upcoming videos.
To me the 273 both sounds and looks more like the 263 than the 133, but I guess we already know from one of your other videos that the 263 beats the 133.
Would you consider doing decibel measurements in the future as well?
Yeah I ran out of tree so the old torque test is finished. I'm not sure if I can do the wood drilling test repeatably as different parts of wood drill different speeds, but I'd like to do something like that as it's pretty informative I think. And yeah sound level is easy. But the acoustics within the different tool shells will make motors sound different. Maybe better to check part diagrams or dissect drills to see what's going on inside? What are you looking for?
I would be happy to consult with you before I buy, I am debating between two sets:
First set from Kita:
Impact screwdriver XDT19, called in Israel (DTD172Z)
DHR242 hammer
Includes 2 5 amp batteries and a fast charger
The second set is from DeWalt:
Dch263 Patichon
Dcf850 Impact
2 5 amp batteries and a fast charger
post Scriptum
What is most important to me is reliability, the company's service, workforce 💪 and longevity.
I don't use tools for everyday purpose
Thank you very much for the help
I can't comment on the company's service in your region but the DeWalt tools you mentioned are more powerful than the Makita in this case
I own the DCH133. It happily drills into reinforced concrete (carbide bit needed), chips concrete no problem. For a home gamer it's good enough and then some.
Buy some anti vibration gloves with the DCH133 Plus 20% quicker drilling, then multiply that by fixing 1,000 ceiling anchors on a construction site for example, 20% less time holding a heavier drill overhead, you should have used the DCH263 for a better fairer comparison and still a lot cheaper, your basically paying double for two springs, a diode and a belt clip, you can buy a belt clip for the DCH133 and DCH263 for pennies. It all gets to confusing as DeWalt has far too many combi hammer and rotary impact drills, love your videos by the way but a little criticism is good don't you think. 👍👍
Valid points! the 263 in my market (Canada) is about $90 cheaper, and based upon the specs slide, the 263 is 3J x 4300 IPM, which is just in between. But it has the bonus of the vibration control. I suspect if you're doing work in tighter spaces, it makes sense to have the 273, but otherwise doesn't make any sense to get the 273 over the 263 since the 133 basically wins out in every way and the 263 is a slight "improvement" upon it.
@@thudang3039did you see the part in the video where he said to get the 273 if you do a lot of drilling because it really makes a big difference to your hands, and he then showed the clip of him shaking his sore hands after using the 133?
I like his summary of 273 if you do a lot of drilling especially bigger things. 133 if you do smaller or infrequent.
I drill concrete most days. I've used both and I prefer the 273. It's very smooth and the short length bullpup style means I can work in tighter spaces.
The 133 is great value. Some guys have that, others have 273.
Greetings. According to your recommendation, which drill is better for hobby use. Is there a big difference in dimensions and weight? And is there a big difference in power?
Wonder how much difference there is between the 18V and 20V batteries in these
They are identical batteries. Dewalt labels it as 20v here in the US for a marketing gimmick. Most of the time the battery itself is putting out under 18v in power while running. The Milwaukee on the other hand puts out about 19v while running. It’s just a gimmick, but I’m sure it helps sell tools.
Smaller one is better just cuz of its size its small so its easy to hold when the drill spot is a bit further and fits in small spots
Great video! Sold on the longboi.
Another great review, thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
In a long term DCH273 is better because of his compact body and mostly because of the anti -vibration sistem . If you work every day with this tool, you will feel it .
Very good in depth review
Very well done 👍🫡
the shock absorbtion is motther but probbaly taking out a lot of power in the chain?
Yes I think that's why it doesn't hit quite as hard
Great work 👍👍
Skip to 12:08 for the answer to which one is better.
Great video, just looking this up to buy one of these two tools. Exactly what I needed.
Great to hear! I was wondering myself and figured I wasn't the only one.
You have a catapult and a rusty armature on your bench. Now explain how they go together.
BTW, the user was UnfairManagement, Tool Surgeon is their flair
Haha those are there to remind me to do something with them. I have a few other siege engines to build and that motor was from a drill I restored back in May! There is so much footage I can't get through it all. Currently the video is 2 hours long
Great in depth relaxing video, thanks! The long boy is rather impressive for the price, tho:)
Sure is! One of the best out there. I still don't know how they sell it so cheap, it's probably a loss-leader for them
hi if you could help me, whats the newer version of the dch 133? its better to buy this rotary hammer or should i consider de dcd460t2? i mostly use on wood and concrete, damaged a dcd985 on wood so i need something stronger
The 133 would actually have less torque than the 985 as rotary hammers don't cut the material with their rotation but just remove the dust with it. Depending on what size holes you're drilling in concrete (presumably small if you're using a hammer drill) consider a smaller rotary hammer like the Dch172. It'll kick a hammer drills' ass.
Without knowing what kind of work you're doing I suggest looking at DCH 172 for concrete and another drill-driver with more torque than the 985( or just another 985 since it'll be doing less work)
Check this out: th-cam.com/video/Q0ZqHmUHtUI/w-d-xo.html
Hi im wanting to buy the 133 or advertise as 133NX-J. But.... because of the recent commercial jobsite WHS rules, I need a dust extractor and I see one for the dewalt 263 version which looks identical to the 133? Can you suggest a universal version or does the 133 have same dimensions as a 263 model? Any reply appreciated 👍
The 263 is a slightly bigger, more powerful version of the 133. It's also got vibration dampening
Great video and product comparison. I was wondering if the 273 will fit into a standard tstak case?
Thanks! I don't know how big those are but I'd guess yes? the drill itself isn't much bigger footprint than say, the DCH172 if that helps
Is there any reason the DCH273 couldn't drill 29mm // 1-1/8" into concrete? I know it's beyond rating. I'm actually trying to decide between DCH273 & 263 W/ dust extractor.
I'm sure it could, once or twice. But if you're regularly drilling that big you'd really want an SDS max drill. I think out of the two you mentioned go the 273 if you're mostly drilling around 5/8 or below, & 263 if you're mostly drilling say 5/8 to say 7/8. If you want to regularly drill bigger then that, consider a bigger drill than the 263
I mostly do a pretty even spread of 1/2" 3/8" and the odd 5/8" run and feel like the DCH273 is the correct fit. There are so many things to consider though. I.E ergonomics of even the dust extractor itself. My eye tells me the DWH205DH dust extractor is a little more practical. Also, I like the idea that if I need to clean up a concrete floor or wall penetration some time, the 263's 50% more chipping power might be the difference between practical chipping or not. ( having used neither ) How do you feel with chipping in the equation, is the difference between the two worth considering or would they both be impractical? @@BoltahDownunder
Agreed re the 273, but I know nothing about dust extractor so can't comment there. Chipping is also hard to say, because it's highly a variable application. Stripping tiles? 273 should be fine. Breaking up concrete blocks? 263
#1-Would you know if you can change out the chuck on the 263 for a standard chuck?
#2-Also can either dust collector be mounted without the handle?
#3-And does the 263 require me to remove the handle to dismount the dust collector?
-thanks for the help btw, I'll be making my decision tonight. @@BoltahDownunder
1: no, but the 273 has a version with a changeable chuck, the 274.
2&3: don't know
Great video. Helped me decide on the long 1. Can you run it on standard 18v dewalt batteries? Or is it xr batteries only? 👍🏻
It works with all 18V slide batteries (called 20V max, in North America)
Which is heavier
What’s the best for value dewalt SDS ?
I'd say DCH 033 for smaller work and dch133 for bigger jobs. But they're pretty similar in reality, just the 033 is cheaper
Thank you. Then I will get a DCH 033 for $200 Australian dollars😊 with battery
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. I especially appreciate the tear down bit, and additional info from other sources too! Great channel! Saw your other video on the 133 vs 263, and it seems the 263 makes a strong argument for the middle ground, with the 273 being a more "niche" item due to its more compact size. I can't see why, but watch me encounter a situation within a stud bay or something where I'll be wishing in that instance I bought the 273. LOL Maybe the Chin here is trying to pass off a more "premium" vibe looking more like its Flexvolt bigger sibling (832). BTW, the simple raw maths did it for me - makes sense for my case that I wouldn't be bothered by the longer size but could benefit from the happy medium of the 263 and save myself the money.
Thanks mate! The chin is a super interesting tool I think they may have come up with the internal vibration dampening and run with it as a sort of primo feeling drill while also being a little different. The downside is of course those springs dampen the impact force too, so it doesn't end up as powerful as the others. However, she's hands down the nicest hammer to use of any I've tried, and I have like 50! A real winner if you drill all day every day, but probably not worth the price if you're a more casual concrete perforator.
Nice video
Great review thanks 👍
Hello sir, nice video
In my country have both of them at the same price.
I'm only a home diyer and love quality tools
Which of them you recommend?
If the price is the same you may as well go for the 273, as it's much nicer to use
Cheers🔨
Am I missing something? 20v tools with an 18v battery?
If I remember correctly DeWalt can't sell "20v" batteries in other countries because they're all actually 18v batteries that they call 20v. In the other countries they're labeled as 18v because that's the actual output.
@@Steam_Engenius mine show 20 on multimeter but I think you're right it seems all the UK or Australia videos all have 18v on the 20v tools.
@@smky143 yeah I think they're 20 fully charged but only capable of outputting 18 sustained volts or something to that effect. The back of the boxes all say something like *18 volts nominal
@@Steam_Engenius I guess they call them 20 so people don't think they can use the older 18v labeled batteries though I don't think they have the same connector, thanks for the help.
They're the same batteries, just labelled differently for different markets. The cells are nominally 3.6 volts each, 5 in series is 18V. Sometimes that's rounded up to 20v max/peak. the battery will sit around 20v when idle &18 under load. I believe the EU doesn't let them round up to 20V so DeWalt does a version called 20v and outside US they go with 18V
I notice you are using the 18v battery instead of the 20v?
They're just called that here🤷♂️ it's the exact same stuff as 20v max, just different branding
The 20v batteries has 18v nominal voltage, same as in europe. 20v is voltage without load
Companies require a vacuum now too. Dewalt vacuum will just attatch
Can the big one drill 1in holes in concrete?
They both can, and did! The max capacity test does that.
Well done
I saw how the $70 Harbor Freight Bauer out performed the smaller Dewalt of yours.
Hilti and Milwaukee drill best power
Tylko dewalt dch263👍👍👍👌👌👌
Да , 273-й - просто лучший!