Great video! The last combo with Gearframe and Bullet Train can actually end on Knuckle, Dora, and Regulus plus draw 2. The important thing is to use Riverstormer to tribute Platnium Gadget to SS itself from grave. At 27:18, you linked Riverstormer for Goliath. Use graveyard Riverstormer and tribute Platnium Gadget to SS River Stormer. Use Stormer to summon your 2nd Goliath (you'll have 2 Goliath on field). Can use both Goliath to SS Ballista, then add box and Tunnler. SS Tunnler from hand by tributting Ballista. SS Regulus from hand and equip Gearframe (for simpliticy I said to SS Regulus now but can probably do it earlier tbh). SS Gearframe from S/T zone. Link into Knuckle using Tunnler and Gearframe. Use Trencher to SS Harvester from graveyard. Use Harvesters 2nd effect to combine levels with Regulus to make both level 10. Activate Knuckle effect, send box as cost, SS Citadel in def. Use level 10 Harvester and Citadel to make Dora. Activate Tunnler to draw 2. Final board: Knuckle, Dora, Regulus with draw 2. Great video!
Its important to note that in the redeployment combo you can also add the bullet express and use the rank 9 to link into knuckle so you summon bullet and then use knuckle to summon citadel and make dora. Great video nonetheless
@BoxingGamesAndComics you misunderstand. You're always grabbing the same cards with redeployment. You add express with river stormer instead of I believe he adds regulas? Been a while since I watched it. The reality is there's like 30 different combos with redeployment and they all change depending on what you want to do in the match up you facing
@BoxingGamesAndComics it's the same combo as he does in the video. The only things that change is you add bullet instead of regulas with river stormer and then link of the rank 9 wind machine to make knuckle so you have no non-earth machines so you can summon express. Then you would use knuckle to bring back citadel so you have 2 10s to make Dora. Then you would detach express in the end phase so you can get the effect to cycle a card back to hand
Great video, I love the genius combo even if it’s a little bold into nibiru. For the final combo, you could tribute platinum gadget for river stormer, then get to regulus + knuckle without using trencher, then you can use trencher and knuckle to get citadel as well
Played it in a less competitive tournament last month, I'm in love with Book of Moon because you can cheat a negated Citadel (summoned by Knuckle) for a boardwipe when they try to play around destruction removal. I believe this can be a sleeper deck during PHNI because (with the exception of SP) almost all removal is through destruction and from matches against Fire King variants (budget versions) it has a good matchup while Lab no longer plays IDP.
Perfect timing! Literally just got this deck in the mail. Would love to see how you would change infernobles after the Banlist. Keep up the content my man!
Droplet and TTT really just break this deck so hard into how OP it is considering some cards benefit from being tossed into the graveyard like Bullet Train for reincarnation, Citadel for setup to next turn, Overdrive for graveyard and banish zone recycling, or Ruinforce to set up for his summon
@@WinterKillz that's true but in the condition you have a monster still on the field the next turn normal summon harvester could lose the game ,harvester can take all the ht in the game, droll can be used after the search of dozer and you are fucked, adding back dozer in the future droll.meta could be the best choice cuz after you summoned stormer and searced what you want droll isnt too impactfull, being drolled after harvester seac could fuck you up
I have a few questions: Is it a consistent deck? Is it viable going second? Does it have restrictions (lock into earth machine?)? Also thank you a lot for the time you put into doing this video, it really helps understand better the deck and synergies between the cards. I'm planning to pick this deck up because I've always those OG cards, and I'm not sure but if the deck doesn't lock you into something, the new rank 10 generic (and so powerful) XYZ coming in LEDE would have its place in the deck. Thank you for reading this comment!
Yes it's consistent, yes it can definitely go second and dozer locks you into earth machines. The lock can be played around though. The new rank 10 will work great in the deck
Gosh i love this deck, there are so many lines and ways of going about the deck. But it needs new support to increase its power and resistance to handtraps. The deck has a lot of cards that aren’t ideal to draw if disrupted, and extra deck space is tight. But if me and a friend ever sit down for fair and balanced yugioh, this is the deck im most likely gonna pick. Great video! Very digestible and insightful!
Crossout carries this hybrid's concept in today's meta; Crossout Designator is at 3 in TCG... Vernusylph FTK is more viable than this 2020-era "Earth Machine" in any 2/3 format on the clock. Scrap Machina also outclasses Machina Infinitrack if its built generically like this. The whole "1-3 card combo deck dump into draw 2" isn't really strong unless you play 4 or MORE lines of interaction with the opponent, otherwise countering them will often do nothing, and they will play right through your weak defense. 2 hand traps + Regulus + Overdrive is NOT enough to beat most tier 2 or better decks anymore. Most of the time, these old Earth Machine builds succeed because they catch unprepared opponents off guard. If anybody plays Nibiru or Droll, you need to scoop and move on to the next round, unless the opponent has NOTHING to play after either one of those hand traps. That is not the case with other variants of this deck, or even simply this same hybrid concept with Crossout and less clutter. I highly consider looking into other routes for both builds and combos if you want to see success 👍
Nice vid! I’ve been shooting for a road roller’d stormer + Dora end board recently. Easy with an extender, reads “have a link with 2500 or more or die to follow up”. Thoughts on switching the rank 9 to the generaider? It’s an extra ed slot but does more imo. Plus, Goliath makes it 3 mat!
Ive not used the gearframe variant before, i really like how the metalcruncher variant feels, but these combos are reallly cool. General question though, why in the gearframe + redeployment combo did you banish Box off of Ruinforce? Surely there's a better line, it feels really sub optimal to banish such a central piece of the resource loop.
I've thought about it a lot, because I've wanted to play it ever since it came out. However the more and more I looked into it, it just didn't seem worth it at all.
I like road roller but it wouldn’t come up in these situations. (I play it with only trencher and tunneller as box targets) It mainly comes up if you draw two infinitrack cards so you don’t lose to ash on dozer, or going second if you want to Zeus, or on the follow up if you have gone through trencher and tunneller already
Road Roller is extremely worth it, but you need to supply it with new modern combo routes (a whole new deck at that point, like Superheavy or Scrap engines). I don't think most players are capable of them because 1) it gets too complicated for the average player & 2) the benefit is for HYBRIDS, as in... not locking yourself into Earth Machine within the first few plays. This guy has always played the 2020ish idea of this hybrid, with the slight shift to fit Regulus. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just don't see him doing Accesscode or Apollousa combo routes in this deck. He doesn't play anything to support those lines of play (like Skill Drain or Droplet), and with his combo routes, he can't fit in extra steps that benefit him, because his defense is just a few hand traps with a minor followup if he lives. If he OTK's, he'll OTK just as easy as any train engine will.
Is there a deck profile? I just dtarted wanting to play Machina but I can't understand half the cards xD(due to this video I figured how to bring out earth slicer)
Vernusylph is insanely good, but it's a whole different deck hybrid. I assume you haven't played it, but it's an FTK deck that absolutely needs 3 Crossout, 1 TTT, and Called By to be even kind of safe. Most people, me included, struggle to optimize it because it's quite boring to FTK people 50% of the time, and then play a way more complicated combo route that needs to summon Apollousa 5th summon otherwise. It's easy to win with, but easy to beat... unless you convert to a 60 card deck, which severely hurts your consistency in trade for one of the best FTK strategies in this game's history. The main benefit of Infinitrack hybrid decks is consistency, which most people aren't willing to tamper with for the sake of a new combo extreme. It's quite easy to kill with Trains as it is. Just need to make one opening.
@@The_G_in_Jesus I havent played the FTK variant, I just play 3 Duck, 2 Hills and 1 Forest just as a way to extend plays through interruptions Also you have discards all the time because of Box and the add which allows you 2 reborns And btw I agree if I would build it as a way to FTK people I am sure it would be extremly boring
Only if you make an entire deck for him and abuse Skill Drain to the fullest. There's a few combos that summon Megaclops immediately, but they're disadvantageous now that Ruinforce has proved to be a better boss. Overall, avoid Megaclops unless you wanna meme on someone or summon 3 Gear Gigant X in 1 turn with tons of machine tech cards like Birdman, Magical Hound, Swift Scarecrow, etc.
These were pretty generic, some even suboptimal (minus'ing yourself while being vulnerable to common counters too), but I can't say the title is wrong or misleading. A new player who's never seen this archetype hybrid would definitely need to know these in order to play the deck. Very useful since I would imagine new players who just copy/pasted the deck need a modern boost to understand this kinda thing. No hate, no issue with this kinda stuff. Just gotta say that "Earth Machine" has evolved far past this. When it comes to advancing this hybrid's place in the competitive game, getting a +3 then passing on Dora & Regulus assuming your opponent is using no counters is only gonna work with the features such as your hand traps to save you. The +3 isn't even a +3 because you end on those 2 hand traps + 1 simple break-even negate without any combo necessary quite often. The interaction count remains extremely low with these outdated routes.
Great video! But I think its fair to say machina/infinitracks are just not good and the mantle of "Earth Machine" has officially been taken by Superheavy Samurais (which are now the better Earth Machines). Even without the Super Sam link 1, Superheavies are waaaaayyy better than machina-infinitracks. Nothing wrong with liking infinitracks and machinas but Earth Machines are no longer that outdated deck, they're now Superheavy Samurais, and hey they even still play the ancient gear ballista and infinitrack tunneller as those are the only good ones worth playing in the new EM deck.
This is so true! Overall, Machina/Infinitrack is still amazing... but not built like this. It now relies on Crossout and/or floodgates. Most players aren't willing to cut filler for strategy because they need the opponent to skip their turn to win. That's okay, that's just yugioh right now. Just sucks when you're playing a build that scoops vs almost any counter strategy. IMO, "Earth Machine" died as a concept when Ruinforce came out. It got sent to hell when Vernusylphs came out. And when Road Roller came out, it erased this 2020 deck idea from history. At most, these old builds end on 4 interactions, maybe 5 with Derricrane under Dora... and they can easily just get Super Poly'd then run over without trying. Assuming they didn't scoop vs any 1 of 6 hand traps people are running already. Superheavy is by far the most powerful, but not even the best or most consistent, this kind of deck can do. I think Scrap engines (going 2nd) and Vernusylph engines (FTK) easily outclass both Superheavy & old school "Earth Machine" because we literally just don't need to "Normal Summon 1 of my 100 starters. Response? Nothing, okay, thank god, Search Dozer, activate Dozer, hey buddy wake up I'm still playing here" anymore... lol. Easy example is just play pure Trains, and watch how it just works better than all of these due to playing Pot of Extravagance to skip the entire deck dump solitaire BS. Once you start diluting the Train part of the deck, you basically just make a whole deck full of bait, so much so that you forget that summoning Trains & ghetto Pot of Greed is the whole reason this deck ever had a chance. It ends up being easier for the opponent than the player when it's not about killing them guaranteed, or maximizing the interaction count. Disclaimer: no hate or anything, I'm actually agreeing. Additionally, I'm trying to put the notion out there that we are not limited to these preconceived decklists that are not proven to be consistent or successful. Nobody needs to be stuck in the google loop when there's endless builds most people haven't played or seen yet. Innovation is always due.
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Great video! The last combo with Gearframe and Bullet Train can actually end on Knuckle, Dora, and Regulus plus draw 2. The important thing is to use Riverstormer to tribute Platnium Gadget to SS itself from grave.
At 27:18, you linked Riverstormer for Goliath. Use graveyard Riverstormer and tribute Platnium Gadget to SS River Stormer. Use Stormer to summon your 2nd Goliath (you'll have 2 Goliath on field). Can use both Goliath to SS Ballista, then add box and Tunnler. SS Tunnler from hand by tributting Ballista. SS Regulus from hand and equip Gearframe (for simpliticy I said to SS Regulus now but can probably do it earlier tbh). SS Gearframe from S/T zone. Link into Knuckle using Tunnler and Gearframe. Use Trencher to SS Harvester from graveyard. Use Harvesters 2nd effect to combine levels with Regulus to make both level 10. Activate Knuckle effect, send box as cost, SS Citadel in def. Use level 10 Harvester and Citadel to make Dora. Activate Tunnler to draw 2. Final board: Knuckle, Dora, Regulus with draw 2.
Great video!
Thanks!
Deck List Please
@@BrunoRosarini-un8dp it's already on the channel
Its important to note that in the redeployment combo you can also add the bullet express and use the rank 9 to link into knuckle so you summon bullet and then use knuckle to summon citadel and make dora. Great video nonetheless
Deck List Please
It needs to be a machina monster bullet sadly isn’t a machina
@BoxingGamesAndComics you misunderstand. You're always grabbing the same cards with redeployment. You add express with river stormer instead of I believe he adds regulas? Been a while since I watched it. The reality is there's like 30 different combos with redeployment and they all change depending on what you want to do in the match up you facing
@@dr.hauntedmdphd464 can you explain 😦
@BoxingGamesAndComics it's the same combo as he does in the video. The only things that change is you add bullet instead of regulas with river stormer and then link of the rank 9 wind machine to make knuckle so you have no non-earth machines so you can summon express. Then you would use knuckle to bring back citadel so you have 2 10s to make Dora. Then you would detach express in the end phase so you can get the effect to cycle a card back to hand
That Ruinforce pop to SS 2 machinas under Genius is wild. You could even use it to grab Jinzo against Traptrix or Labrynth.. cool stuff
holy shit that line where you draw box and put it back into the deck was amazing.
It's a really cool line for sure! Glad you liked it
getting back into this deck, appreciate these kind of videos!
Great video, I love the genius combo even if it’s a little bold into nibiru.
For the final combo, you could tribute platinum gadget for river stormer, then get to regulus + knuckle without using trencher, then you can use trencher and knuckle to get citadel as well
Played it in a less competitive tournament last month, I'm in love with Book of Moon because you can cheat a negated Citadel (summoned by Knuckle) for a boardwipe when they try to play around destruction removal. I believe this can be a sleeper deck during PHNI because (with the exception of SP) almost all removal is through destruction and from matches against Fire King variants (budget versions) it has a good matchup while Lab no longer plays IDP.
I have this video downloaded and listen to it on the way to work all the time, the Qliphort!Ruinforce combo really activated my almonds
Perfect timing! Literally just got this deck in the mail. Would love to see how you would change infernobles after the Banlist. Keep up the content my man!
Love to see the Redeployment + Gearframe combo being simulated. Feels good to see it every single damn time. 👊
Droplet and TTT really just break this deck so hard into how OP it is considering some cards benefit from being tossed into the graveyard like Bullet Train for reincarnation, Citadel for setup to next turn, Overdrive for graveyard and banish zone recycling, or Ruinforce to set up for his summon
You’re killing it brother. Good stuff 🤝🏻
thank you!
just one point, add back to the gy dozer in the ep is better than add back everything else, but it is fine too, gj great video
I can't get behind that. I want a normal summon on the next turn not a potentially dead card.
@@WinterKillz that's true but in the condition you have a monster still on the field the next turn normal summon harvester could lose the game ,harvester can take all the ht in the game, droll can be used after the search of dozer and you are fucked, adding back dozer in the future droll.meta could be the best choice cuz after you summoned stormer and searced what you want droll isnt too impactfull, being drolled after harvester seac could fuck you up
@@WinterKillz all this is my opinion, after 2 years of playing the deck, could be wrong ngl
Nice man! The only thing with the last combo. I would tribute fortress for platinum gadget and recycle it. But thats just preference.
You mean recycle gadget with tunneler? If that's what you mean you can't because tunneler can only recycle earth machines
Just got back into yugioh not long ago. I'm having a lot of fun with my deskbot deck love machines
I have a few questions: Is it a consistent deck? Is it viable going second? Does it have restrictions (lock into earth machine?)?
Also thank you a lot for the time you put into doing this video, it really helps understand better the deck and synergies between the cards. I'm planning to pick this deck up because I've always those OG cards, and I'm not sure but if the deck doesn't lock you into something, the new rank 10 generic (and so powerful) XYZ coming in LEDE would have its place in the deck.
Thank you for reading this comment!
Yes it's consistent, yes it can definitely go second and dozer locks you into earth machines. The lock can be played around though. The new rank 10 will work great in the deck
@@WinterKillzOk, thank you very much for your answers! In your opinion, how many starters are there in the deck?
Gosh i love this deck, there are so many lines and ways of going about the deck. But it needs new support to increase its power and resistance to handtraps. The deck has a lot of cards that aren’t ideal to draw if disrupted, and extra deck space is tight. But if me and a friend ever sit down for fair and balanced yugioh, this is the deck im most likely gonna pick. Great video! Very digestible and insightful!
Crossout carries this hybrid's concept in today's meta; Crossout Designator is at 3 in TCG... Vernusylph FTK is more viable than this 2020-era "Earth Machine" in any 2/3 format on the clock. Scrap Machina also outclasses Machina Infinitrack if its built generically like this. The whole "1-3 card combo deck dump into draw 2" isn't really strong unless you play 4 or MORE lines of interaction with the opponent, otherwise countering them will often do nothing, and they will play right through your weak defense. 2 hand traps + Regulus + Overdrive is NOT enough to beat most tier 2 or better decks anymore. Most of the time, these old Earth Machine builds succeed because they catch unprepared opponents off guard. If anybody plays Nibiru or Droll, you need to scoop and move on to the next round, unless the opponent has NOTHING to play after either one of those hand traps. That is not the case with other variants of this deck, or even simply this same hybrid concept with Crossout and less clutter. I highly consider looking into other routes for both builds and combos if you want to see success 👍
Can you do a machina and trains only deck profile I find the deck surprisingly consistent
Always appreciate earth machine combos :)
Thanks for the great content! Always on 🔝
Appreciate it!
Thanks bro, I really was waiting for this!!!
Nice vid!
I’ve been shooting for a road roller’d stormer + Dora end board recently. Easy with an extender, reads “have a link with 2500 or more or die to follow up”.
Thoughts on switching the rank 9 to the generaider? It’s an extra ed slot but does more imo. Plus, Goliath makes it 3 mat!
There are so many lines! Didnt see Harvester targetting Therion to become Level 10 so it can make Dora with any other 10.
Yes there are plenty of combos but I went with the most standard lines to help newer players.
Hello, can I get the deck list you are using for this? :)
Ive not used the gearframe variant before, i really like how the metalcruncher variant feels, but these combos are reallly cool. General question though, why in the gearframe + redeployment combo did you banish Box off of Ruinforce? Surely there's a better line, it feels really sub optimal to banish such a central piece of the resource loop.
Does anyone know where I can get this playmat?
Is it still not worth it to play Infinitrack Road Roller? I think it sometimes has some potential
I've thought about it a lot, because I've wanted to play it ever since it came out. However the more and more I looked into it, it just didn't seem worth it at all.
I like road roller but it wouldn’t come up in these situations. (I play it with only trencher and tunneller as box targets)
It mainly comes up if you draw two infinitrack cards so you don’t lose to ash on dozer, or going second if you want to Zeus, or on the follow up if you have gone through trencher and tunneller already
@@WinterKillzRoad Roller is actually really good. If they Ash or Imperm your Dozer, Roller allows you to continue. And you’re also Nibiru proof
Road Roller is extremely worth it, but you need to supply it with new modern combo routes (a whole new deck at that point, like Superheavy or Scrap engines). I don't think most players are capable of them because 1) it gets too complicated for the average player & 2) the benefit is for HYBRIDS, as in... not locking yourself into Earth Machine within the first few plays. This guy has always played the 2020ish idea of this hybrid, with the slight shift to fit Regulus. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just don't see him doing Accesscode or Apollousa combo routes in this deck. He doesn't play anything to support those lines of play (like Skill Drain or Droplet), and with his combo routes, he can't fit in extra steps that benefit him, because his defense is just a few hand traps with a minor followup if he lives. If he OTK's, he'll OTK just as easy as any train engine will.
where is the deck list?
So what’s a good end board generally? Or what kinda deck is this? Control?
Usually number 81, regulus with citadel is usually what you aim for
I miss having Calamities...
Are those the boomerangs from ty the tasmanian tiger?
Yes they are!
Is there a deck profile?
I just dtarted wanting to play Machina but I can't understand half the cards xD(due to this video I figured how to bring out earth slicer)
Yup it's on my channel
Any thoughts on running clockwork night?
The deck has enough searches/starters and I think that card is just worse heavy forward so I didn't wanna play it.
Any particular reason why you dont play Vernussylph-Engine, I for myself always considered it as a very strong way to play through interruptions?
takes up way too much space that can be used for non engine.
Vernusylph is insanely good, but it's a whole different deck hybrid. I assume you haven't played it, but it's an FTK deck that absolutely needs 3 Crossout, 1 TTT, and Called By to be even kind of safe. Most people, me included, struggle to optimize it because it's quite boring to FTK people 50% of the time, and then play a way more complicated combo route that needs to summon Apollousa 5th summon otherwise. It's easy to win with, but easy to beat... unless you convert to a 60 card deck, which severely hurts your consistency in trade for one of the best FTK strategies in this game's history. The main benefit of Infinitrack hybrid decks is consistency, which most people aren't willing to tamper with for the sake of a new combo extreme. It's quite easy to kill with Trains as it is. Just need to make one opening.
@@The_G_in_Jesus I havent played the FTK variant, I just play 3 Duck, 2 Hills and 1 Forest just as a way to extend plays through interruptions
Also you have discards all the time because of Box and the add which allows you 2 reborns
And btw I agree if I would build it as a way to FTK people I am sure it would be extremly boring
TRAINS BABY LETS GOOOOOOOOO
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The deck is going first or second?
I go first
Waiting for infernity deck sir
you might be waiting a while for that XD
Is it worth playing infinitrack fortress megaclops?
Only if you make an entire deck for him and abuse Skill Drain to the fullest. There's a few combos that summon Megaclops immediately, but they're disadvantageous now that Ruinforce has proved to be a better boss. Overall, avoid Megaclops unless you wanna meme on someone or summon 3 Gear Gigant X in 1 turn with tons of machine tech cards like Birdman, Magical Hound, Swift Scarecrow, etc.
@@The_G_in_Jesus thanks man
Urgent schedule combos?
Summon harvester and fortress the link for ballista then add box and trencher summon fortress then trencher for harvester and combo as normal
Or if you play SP you can go harvester trencher into Goliaths then SP, they never see it coming, then you have the gy setup to combo
These were pretty generic, some even suboptimal (minus'ing yourself while being vulnerable to common counters too), but I can't say the title is wrong or misleading. A new player who's never seen this archetype hybrid would definitely need to know these in order to play the deck. Very useful since I would imagine new players who just copy/pasted the deck need a modern boost to understand this kinda thing. No hate, no issue with this kinda stuff. Just gotta say that "Earth Machine" has evolved far past this. When it comes to advancing this hybrid's place in the competitive game, getting a +3 then passing on Dora & Regulus assuming your opponent is using no counters is only gonna work with the features such as your hand traps to save you. The +3 isn't even a +3 because you end on those 2 hand traps + 1 simple break-even negate without any combo necessary quite often. The interaction count remains extremely low with these outdated routes.
Please enlighten me then. What is harvester supposed to get me on it's own nowadays.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on "Earth Machine" combos as well. @The_G_in_Jesus
Another video help sos
A return of swordsoul 😢😢
I'll play it again, just don't know when.
The deck is literally still the same except for that weird duality build, wouldn’t you rather see new stuff lol
Great video! But I think its fair to say machina/infinitracks are just not good and the mantle of "Earth Machine" has officially been taken by Superheavy Samurais (which are now the better Earth Machines). Even without the Super Sam link 1, Superheavies are waaaaayyy better than machina-infinitracks. Nothing wrong with liking infinitracks and machinas but Earth Machines are no longer that outdated deck, they're now Superheavy Samurais, and hey they even still play the ancient gear ballista and infinitrack tunneller as those are the only good ones worth playing in the new EM deck.
This is so true! Overall, Machina/Infinitrack is still amazing... but not built like this. It now relies on Crossout and/or floodgates. Most players aren't willing to cut filler for strategy because they need the opponent to skip their turn to win. That's okay, that's just yugioh right now. Just sucks when you're playing a build that scoops vs almost any counter strategy.
IMO, "Earth Machine" died as a concept when Ruinforce came out. It got sent to hell when Vernusylphs came out. And when Road Roller came out, it erased this 2020 deck idea from history. At most, these old builds end on 4 interactions, maybe 5 with Derricrane under Dora... and they can easily just get Super Poly'd then run over without trying. Assuming they didn't scoop vs any 1 of 6 hand traps people are running already.
Superheavy is by far the most powerful, but not even the best or most consistent, this kind of deck can do. I think Scrap engines (going 2nd) and Vernusylph engines (FTK) easily outclass both Superheavy & old school "Earth Machine" because we literally just don't need to "Normal Summon 1 of my 100 starters. Response? Nothing, okay, thank god, Search Dozer, activate Dozer, hey buddy wake up I'm still playing here" anymore... lol. Easy example is just play pure Trains, and watch how it just works better than all of these due to playing Pot of Extravagance to skip the entire deck dump solitaire BS. Once you start diluting the Train part of the deck, you basically just make a whole deck full of bait, so much so that you forget that summoning Trains & ghetto Pot of Greed is the whole reason this deck ever had a chance. It ends up being easier for the opponent than the player when it's not about killing them guaranteed, or maximizing the interaction count.
Disclaimer: no hate or anything, I'm actually agreeing. Additionally, I'm trying to put the notion out there that we are not limited to these preconceived decklists that are not proven to be consistent or successful. Nobody needs to be stuck in the google loop when there's endless builds most people haven't played or seen yet. Innovation is always due.