I think everyone appreciates a good little Fez! The Zetec S I had taught me how to drive quickly - carrying speed was a joy with such a sharp accessibile chassis! Love the vids man, keep it up 👍🏼
Had mine for 4 years now. Still puts a smile on my face just going for a drive. I've had no major issues on mine at 90k miles, just wear and tear items plus a leaky water pump in the past. Car is totally standard. Keep on top of worn suspension + decent tyres and they will continue to feel sweet
Enjoyed the video. I’ve owned my ST3 from new since 2014. Pretty much gone through the Mountune catalogue taking it up to MR230. From experience, if you are happy with the power, then check out an aftermarket engine mount, short shifter and possibly some aftermarket springs. All relatively cheap mods, but certainly enhance the driving experience. Other possible mods would be to add cruise control which is fairly simple. The rear head light cluster were updated in circa 2015 to part LED units. Pick up a second hand set from the bay of flea for about 60 sheets. Plug and play jobbies that freshen up the rear end Great cars out the factory though. As mentioned, they have 197bhp due to the overboost feature. Marketed as 180bhp though
I have had one of these which is the same age as yours from new. They all have 200 hp. Its normally 180 bhp but it has an over boost function on full throttle for about 10 secs that gives an extra 20 bhp. So the Mountune kit adds 15 bhp. Torque steer in 3rd & 4th! Time for new decent tyres. They do about 40 mpg. Decent things.
Great choice! Like some have suggested, if you think the car was treated well by previous owners, which with the 40k miles sounds like it has, worth looking at going stage 2, these engines are solid and can cope with 330hp no problem, a new clutch, better brakes and you will not look back.
First time coming across you videos but definitely deserve more subs, professional commentary, footage, editing. here before you hit 100k by the end of the year 👍🏼
I had a st then 140i. The st was way more fun! The 140 didn’t have much to offer other than straight line performance and the auto made things boring. Sold the 140 for an M2 and now looking for a st for weekend fun toy.
Had an M140. brilliant engine in a shit chassis, unless you throw a lot of money at them, and then still won’t be anywhere near the handling of an m2. Fiesta ST. Brilliant out of the box great on fuel. You made the right choice for you budget mate. !
Mate, I'm sure you are opening yourself up for a load of abuse but totally agree. Just sold my m140i with stage 1,.Remus and gearbox tune. Great drivetrain but a rubbish drive with lifeless steering. Way too fast for any case on UK roads except motorway on ramps. Bought an NC mx5 and now have fallen back in love with driving again.
The M140i isn't going to be as good as an M2 is it, because it's a third of the price. It has a narrower track and you can't fit as large tyre, so what do you expect ? If it was as good as an M2, BMW wouldn't sell many M2's would they ? The chassis isn't 'shit' at all, it's very good, just not amazing, and a few mods can make it amazing. But that just defeats the whole point, because then for daily driving it's too crashy and stiff, which is how 95% of daily driving goes, and as a daily the M140i in comfort mode (if you have the adaptive suspension) is very nice indeed. I have never owned a car which is as good at doing everything so well, I absolutely love mine.
Fair play mate, I went from a M240i to a manual facelift I30N recently and difference in handling is insane! proper fun round corners and fuel economy is much better!
@@henzopereira5308 Yeah, done a 250 mile round trip when I picked it up and put the suspension into comfort and it was great, the seats are pretty good but don't have much bolster support though
bought a mountune 2015 ST, 1 month ago for money reasons, 34k on the clock... worried when I purchased it, will not be letting the little beast go anytime soon, absolutely love it!
Had an St1 till about a month ago, put the mountune exhaust on it and the mp215 kit and it was pretty mega for a little hot hatch. Upgraded to a seat cupra Leon 300 though which is a massive upgrade
I just went from a gt86 to a Corsa vxr nurburgring edition for money reasons and practical reasons but IV gained power ,the vxr is way qwicker and a better ride than the 86 only thing is it doesn't stand out as much . I did look at the st but you see loads of them around
Such a fun car mate and much cheaper to run than the Beemer😂 You could make it a quick car for not a lot of money if you buy some decent 2nd hand parts. Had a s280 turbo mapped by Trs and it was class! 40mpg when you wanted as well
Great content as always! I sold my M135 earlier this month to release some money for a house. I considered these STs as well for a replacement but ended up settling for a Audi A5 2L TFSI. Surprised at the similar 0-60 times of the A5 and what you've listed in the video! Definitely missing the pull you get from the BM though.
I went from a Focus RS MK3 to a Fiesta St - white as well, great car, a lot of fun to be had for little money - ironically l went to a GR4 Yaris (brilliant) BUT lm now back in a M140 - there aren’t many cars l would have twice (so much choice) but obviously the M140 is one because l have 😃 and definitely the Fiesta ST - but probably the new 1.5 (orange 👍). Another good review - l really enjoyed it 👍. Ps if any of you young men think you may grow out of performance cars - think again- lm nearly 60 and getting worse 😂😂😂😂
when it comes to affordable driving fun, the st mk7 was unrivaled at the time. and even today there are still plenty of people who appreciate just that. Jeremy Clarkson said: “I spend most of my life whizzing hither and thither in exotica made from platinum and rhodium and fitted with engines that roar and bellow and spit fire. And all I want on the way home is a Ford Fiesta ST.” It's my everyday vehicle alongside my one-off prototype and I've driven much more powerful and faster cars, but in the end I'm just like Jeremy. Good choice, mate! 🙂👍
Like the way you reviewed this, and seemed a fair review imo. I'd love to see you a manual Golf GTD. If you want cheap motoring this could be the car for you. One minute giving you 60mpg on the motorway, but even when blasting it on a country lane, you still get 30's. Would also be further interesting to see how a dsg then compares on top. 🙂
I went from a fez to a clio mk4 RS. the manual is more fun but clio just goes next level in RS mode. If you're keeping get a induction kit. makes it more fun with the blow off.
im buying a 2016 molten orange one with only 30k miles on it and the paintwork and wheels are immaculate, i wont mention how much im paying for it but hey, its well worth it to me :)
I had a Z4 coupe 3.0si before I went to my fez. I loved that car and miss it. But it was expensive to run and maintain and it would be even worse today. I've had the fez 5 years now and it does make me smile when out on the road. It's not fast by any means and lots of cars can leave me in their wake. But I know I can enjoy all the power it has and use more of it and most my gears compared to more powerful cars than push 300 to 400 bhp where you are doing 60 in second gear in not time. Will look forward to hearing your thoughts on the fez.
@@Doppo69 Christ seems steep. First got mine when I was 18 cost 2.5k for a year, second year went down to 2k. Then someone crashed into my baby while she was parked up 🥲 now got a mk8 st 2019 plate and insurance is down again now to 1.7k a year 💪
I went from a mountune mr230 (big brake kit, everything mountune do) to a m140i stage 2. M140i was a lot quicker after 40mph but the fiesta was so fun!!! If you want to go fast in a corner it’s the fiesta if you wanna go sideways obviously the m140i.
I had a fiesta st with the mountune mr230 kit on it. it was amazing but it had a battery drain so I had to keep jumpstarting it once every couple if days and no garage could find the fault, so I had to get rid off it, so gutted
@lookship Ive got a st 200, Get some decent tyres on yours. Ive got pilot sport 4s on mine and sorts the car out from bogging down in the dry when i give it some beans 👍
Nice on the corners but in no way a upgrade from the 140i. Definitely need some added security, wheel lock is the first purchase before the metal dust caps and go fast stripes 😂
Comments in here are hilarious I bet most of you haven't even got a driving license,he's had as 140i had fun in it now it's time for something more affordable, fiesta's are great little cars.
I get it, money can be tight. Mad decision tho, I've seen M140s going round the nordschleife at crazy speed. Waiting for the popcorn map and universal credit mods.
Had an st for 2 and a half years now, love it to bits, but m140 is the dream next car for me. Will keep watching your content, as enjoyed your m140 stuff
I had an ST2 briefly in 2014 but couldn’t get on with the seats … and moved back to BMW. My ST was initially standard then had the MP215 kit added. The Mountune kit made a huge difference to everyday driving and was very noticeable ! Definitely a good buy to get a car with it on.
Currently on the hunt for my next car. 22 and graduating in summer. Owned a 1.4 punto since passing my test and in desperate neeed of more power. Trying to decide what to buy is so difficult. Want to go down the M135i route but not sure if its best straight away. Any ideas? Maybe something like this could be worth it 🤔
I wanted more power ever since I passed my test. Ended up with more power than I could use in a chassis that wasn't designed to take it. The Mlites are fantastic cars, but the figures don't do them justice when it comes to using it around the corners. If you really really want one get it out of your system now. I never thought I'd come back to something like this, but for spirited driving over a B road it's miles more fun with 200-300bhp and a manual box.
@@lookship Ive wanted one for years, always thought they looked proper cool. So might be a case of getting it now then moving on later like you suggested. I don't think im quite ready for an automatic just yet though 🤣, which is proving to be quite difficult to get a good spec manual for 15-17k which is kinda also throwing me off too. The cornering isnt something I hadn't really thought about too much also. As much as I want to be able to fly down a dual carridgeway, Ild like to be able to corner a B road without ending up in a hedge and wiping my 5y no claims🤣.
I’ve got one as a daily for my OG m2 and credit to the fiesta I never feel disappointed when I take the ST out. Are you sure yours is an ST-2 though as it’s got the electronic temp controls from an ST-3? It may have come standard on the earlier cars but the two st-2’s I’ve had (15 and 65 reg) both had the old temp controls
Was told it was an ST-2 with the Sat Nav and electronic climate control optional extra. Might aswell be an ST-3. The lad who sold it to me shifts these on the regular so I presume that's the case.
I'm glad you are happy with the new car(s), I love the pick up ! I looked at a brand new Fiesta ST myself before I bought my M140i. To be fair, you were not going to make a video saying 'I bought a new car and I hate it' so I'll take it with a pinch of salt, emperor's new clothes and all that. The Fezza is good handling little hatch but it's not really a direct comparison to the M140i is it. The M140i with adaptive is great, yes the rear end is a bit wobbly, and yes it's a bit floaty at speed, but you are going to be approaching corners a lot faster, and of course RWD handling is completely different to FWD so you take corners in a different way. The M140i gets a lot of (unfair) criticism in the handling department, but mainly because people compare it to cars like the Golf R, RS3, A45S, etc, and it is never going to be as fast ultimately round corners as an AWD car, and for the money I think it holds up brilliantly. It's bigger than the Fezza, more rear legroom, more boot space, better interior by miles, and comfier in comfort mode as a daily driver, with the added bonus of being much faster and worth much more money to resell. The ST is a good little car, but it's crashy to drive as a daily, the interior is cheap & nasty, and I just didn't find it as much fun, mainly because the M140i is a real handful when tuned, and that to me makes it exciting. It keeps you on your toes, you have to actually drive the thing. I don't dislike the ST, but lets be honest, it's not even half the car that the M140i is, and they can't really be compared as they are aimed at totally different market buyers. For all the Fezza fangirls going on about handling, why didn't you buy an Elise, or Caterham ?
Luke, I know you said you got rid of the bmw for cornering speed. If you had the money, would you reconsider getting an s3 or golf r for the awd and handling? Would these be better on the twistys compared to the m140?
Standard both of those would be better in the corners as far as speed is concerned. I'm not exactly sure you'd have as much fun because the 140 was a good laugh to drive - I think it was the fact it kept you on your toes and if you got it wrong you'd die 😅 Saying that, if I did have the money to go out and buy another large performance hatch to go fast round the bends, like a Golf R or A45, I'd probably go with the FK8 Civic Type R. I just prefer FWD in a hot hatch at the moment. I'm sure it's just a phase 😄
@@lookship haha, I used to have a mazda3 mps mk2. Was brilliant. I now have an slk350 which sounds class. Im after an awd drive car now as i need it for winter driving too. Was looking at s3 and a45, but for the same price im tempted with an older rs5. 😬😁
The Mk7 is a gorgeous car and a weapon. Interested to know why you didn't choose the Mk8 over a Mk7 though, they are a much better car and a far better daily in my opinion (I'm biased obviously due to having a Mk8 ST-3)
Yep, money. I had a budget of about 17-18k and I was looking at 275 Trophys, but couldn't find one with the options I wanted on for the price (they do come up they're just rare af). When I looked at other things with that budget the MK8 was an option as was the JCW hatch, but I just thought why not pocket a few quid and buy some mods for the van with the change - which is what I'll be doing 🙂
Just out of curiosity did you get the subframe inserts, underbody chassis brace and a decent tyre/suspension set up before writing the M140i off in the handling department?
I didn't. You're right there are plenty of things you can do to improve them, but straight out the box the ST is an improvement over the 140 on the roads I like to go limiter bashing on 😃
@@lookship I totally agree mate, they're insane value for money. I had a DSG Cupra 300 and still miss how it handles! I was just intrigued to see if you'd upgraded the components above and still didn't feel the 140i was up to scratch.
Seen the link In the fiesta group I should have gone for a white one instead of an all black but then again it’s still as fun to drive with the same map as you and same speck loved the edits don’t doubt your self on not uploads more Videos I’d like to see what you full plans of modifications will be 😃
I daily a 335d and have had a local ST driver trying to get into my back seat a few times. With nothing in front of me the ST gets left way behind....630nm of torque and all that...but once I hit a queue it's back up my arse again. If I was after a little weekend toy I'd consider one for sure and get it mapped and fitted out as much as possible to upset other BMW drivers like me. Plus there is an Audi driver near me who seems to think he is Ayrton Senna....one day he will end up like him. A nippy little ST would be great to wipe the smirk off of his face.
all depends where you are though, if you were on a nice twisty national speed limit b road with not so many long straights i'd bet money the fiesta would still be on your bumper and constantly lifting off the throttle to not rear end you, all about location, i've noticed straight line speed in them aren't that great, had a few occasions where standard family car's have been almost neck and neck at merge points with me giving mine everything it got but as i said these come alive in the corners, brilliant cars just got bad rep from the little boys that financed them from new and ruined them Them remapped 335d's are rappid in a straight line though!
I considered a Fiesta ST for it's great handling but it didn't impress me on a test drive . In the end got a megane 250 cup got LSD and basically in the same price range as an ST Mk7
@@Gronkhsau I'm not sure on your country's market but here in the UK you can get plenty Megane 250's for 10k , ofc they will have some mileage but it's expected for a 12 year old car
@@lookship yeah I often say to myself why pay a fortune for a car as you can't use the power half of them have got in the UK roads, just get something that makes you smile. So what did I do, went and got an A35 AMG! Next time I'll listen to myself!
Wicked car and nice example. After 12 mths with an M140 the honeymoon period for me is well and trully over and the ride/handling is getting on my tits. I am going to spend a bit of money on mods but v interested to see how you get on with the fezza, looks great fun to drive
Not a big fan of ford altogether. But hey if everyone was the same be bit boring. Just think the B58 is class engine platform and they can go far. Bit of let down fiesta ST 😦.
They need to put that engine in an M chassis. The tuning potential is mental. But they won't do it because they know it'll out perform certain M cars out there atm...
I paid a 11k if I remember right. Can probably pick up a newer model with a few more miles than mine for the same amount, but the mountune kit swayed it for me since I didn't want to go down the route of modifying it myself. Or so I keep saying, it's bound to happen.
Still would of considered the Pug 208 GTI 30th/Peugeot Sport edition... More power, 4 pot brembos up front, torsen diff, better fuel economy and funky paint job in the red/black... The spec sheet states the 208 30th can achieve nearly 53mpg on cruise
I think everyone appreciates a good little Fez! The Zetec S I had taught me how to drive quickly - carrying speed was a joy with such a sharp accessibile chassis! Love the vids man, keep it up 👍🏼
Had mine for 4 years now. Still puts a smile on my face just going for a drive. I've had no major issues on mine at 90k miles, just wear and tear items plus a leaky water pump in the past. Car is totally standard. Keep on top of worn suspension + decent tyres and they will continue to feel sweet
Nice choice, there's something so nice about going from power back down to something so fun and light hearted. Looks killer in the flesh too.
Absolutely love mine. Glad to see more people picking these up and loving them. Soon as you break 200bhp in these they are perfect.
Enjoyed the video. I’ve owned my ST3 from new since 2014. Pretty much gone through the Mountune catalogue taking it up to MR230. From experience, if you are happy with the power, then check out an aftermarket engine mount, short shifter and possibly some aftermarket springs. All relatively cheap mods, but certainly enhance the driving experience.
Other possible mods would be to add cruise control which is fairly simple. The rear head light cluster were updated in circa 2015 to part LED units. Pick up a second hand set from the bay of flea for about 60 sheets. Plug and play jobbies that freshen up the rear end
Great cars out the factory though. As mentioned, they have 197bhp due to the overboost feature. Marketed as 180bhp though
I have had one of these which is the same age as yours from new. They all have 200 hp. Its normally 180 bhp but it has an over boost function on full throttle for about 10 secs that gives an extra 20 bhp. So the Mountune kit adds 15 bhp. Torque steer in 3rd & 4th! Time for new decent tyres. They do about 40 mpg. Decent things.
Just test drove a 2017 ST-3 today. Was so impressed, I bought it.
Theres just something iconic with a fiesta ST. Great choice!
Great choice! Like some have suggested, if you think the car was treated well by previous owners, which with the 40k miles sounds like it has, worth looking at going stage 2, these engines are solid and can cope with 330hp no problem, a new clutch, better brakes and you will not look back.
haha yo dude no way I found you again here years later
First time coming across you videos but definitely deserve more subs, professional commentary, footage, editing. here before you hit 100k by the end of the year 👍🏼
Got to get to 10k first 😉
Cheers though man ✌️
Yes!!!!!!! Its all about the fiestas now. Let's goooooo.
I'm pretty sure I was behind your 140i near Ingleby Barwick in my white ST about a month ago
Maybe a few months back before I sold it aye. My old man lives up there. Its in Glasgow now 🥲
One of the best cars I have had bought an st3 brand new in 2015 still got it has its foibles but always brings a smile to face
I had a st then 140i. The st was way more fun! The 140 didn’t have much to offer other than straight line performance and the auto made things boring. Sold the 140 for an M2 and now looking for a st for weekend fun toy.
Shouldn't it be the other way round? M2 for weekend Fiesta as the daily??
@@ARDEN440i st more as a project build.
@@Throttle.Monkey Fair
Had an M140. brilliant engine in a shit chassis, unless you throw a lot of money at them, and then still won’t be anywhere near the handling of an m2. Fiesta ST. Brilliant out of the box great on fuel. You made the right choice for you budget mate. !
Why would you buy an M140i and chuck money at it so it handles like an M2? Have you driven an M2? Have you actually owned an M140i? Full of BS.
Mate, I'm sure you are opening yourself up for a load of abuse but totally agree. Just sold my m140i with stage 1,.Remus and gearbox tune. Great drivetrain but a rubbish drive with lifeless steering. Way too fast for any case on UK roads except motorway on ramps. Bought an NC mx5 and now have fallen back in love with driving again.
The M140i isn't going to be as good as an M2 is it, because it's a third of the price. It has a narrower track and you can't fit as large tyre, so what do you expect ?
If it was as good as an M2, BMW wouldn't sell many M2's would they ?
The chassis isn't 'shit' at all, it's very good, just not amazing, and a few mods can make it amazing. But that just defeats the whole point, because then for daily driving it's too crashy and stiff, which is how 95% of daily driving goes, and as a daily the M140i in comfort mode (if you have the adaptive suspension) is very nice indeed.
I have never owned a car which is as good at doing everything so well, I absolutely love mine.
Currently own both and it's a genuine struggle to decide each morning... they're both great cars in their own right
Fair play mate, I went from a M240i to a manual facelift I30N recently and difference in handling is insane! proper fun round corners and fuel economy is much better!
How you finding the longer trips? Comfortable enough?
Ideally I would have jumped into an i20n, but the waiting lists (unless you pick up a cancelled order) put me off
@@henzopereira5308 Yeah, done a 250 mile round trip when I picked it up and put the suspension into comfort and it was great, the seats are pretty good but don't have much bolster support though
@@lookship That would have been a great choice! yeah the waiting times are mad atm, I waited 4 months to pick mine up, enjoy the ST!
Weird that. The i30N has a reputation for being terrible in fuel whereas the M240i have can do 30-40mpg easy.
First video I've just been recommended by TH-cam and massively impressed for a sub 10k subscriber channel! Nice one mate!
Cheers bud 👍
bought a mountune 2015 ST, 1 month ago for money reasons, 34k on the clock... worried when I purchased it, will not be letting the little beast go anytime soon, absolutely love it!
I had a mk7 and now a mk8.5 ST and for the money you can’t beat them for grin factor… especially throwing them around those windy country lanes 😎🚘
got the PP with it?
I've gone from a cupra 280 to a 635d and I desperately need a small hot hatch back in my life, deffo gonna get an st if I see a nice one 👍
Brilliant car. I had one for two and a half years and it was fun, cheap to run and insure and very reliable.
I’ve just went from a st to a golf R and I do miss it as you say it’s a go kart so much fun
Had an St1 till about a month ago, put the mountune exhaust on it and the mp215 kit and it was pretty mega for a little hot hatch. Upgraded to a seat cupra Leon 300 though which is a massive upgrade
The ST180 was actually 197 in gears 3 to 6. The ST200 was 210ish 3rd onwards
I heard its 2-5 gear and in 6 gear its back to 180. Thats also how it feel in my fiesta st
I just went from a gt86 to a Corsa vxr nurburgring edition for money reasons and practical reasons but IV gained power ,the vxr is way qwicker and a better ride than the 86 only thing is it doesn't stand out as much . I did look at the st but you see loads of them around
I used to have one, bought a JCW after. But the fiesta is a beast. Really great car.
Such a fun car mate and much cheaper to run than the Beemer😂 You could make it a quick car for not a lot of money if you buy some decent 2nd hand parts. Had a s280 turbo mapped by Trs and it was class! 40mpg when you wanted as well
Great content as always! I sold my M135 earlier this month to release some money for a house. I considered these STs as well for a replacement but ended up settling for a Audi A5 2L TFSI. Surprised at the similar 0-60 times of the A5 and what you've listed in the video! Definitely missing the pull you get from the BM though.
I went from a Focus RS MK3 to a Fiesta St - white as well, great car, a lot of fun to be had for little money - ironically l went to a GR4 Yaris (brilliant) BUT lm now back in a M140 - there aren’t many cars l would have twice (so much choice) but obviously the M140 is one because l have 😃 and definitely the Fiesta ST - but probably the new 1.5 (orange 👍). Another good review - l really enjoyed it 👍. Ps if any of you young men think you may grow out of performance cars - think again- lm nearly 60 and getting worse 😂😂😂😂
Never change Locky. Keep buying em 🤙
I had the HK in my 135i and I didn’t think it was much better than the mk7 ST I had before it. 135i is gone now and I’m in a mk8. Just missed my ST
when it comes to affordable driving fun, the st mk7 was unrivaled at the time. and even today there are still plenty of people who appreciate just that. Jeremy Clarkson said: “I spend most of my life whizzing hither and thither in exotica made from platinum and rhodium and fitted with engines that roar and bellow and spit fire. And all I want on the way home is a Ford Fiesta ST.”
It's my everyday vehicle alongside my one-off prototype and I've driven much more powerful and faster cars, but in the end I'm just like Jeremy. Good choice, mate! 🙂👍
I got a 320bhp one of these. There’s so much you can do and great value for money
So its been a year, are we able to get an update on the fiesta st?
Lol it's long gone. Was quite fun, but fancied something a bit nicer to sit in everyday.
I have this car same colour 17 plate...the new shape looks pretty dull !! Love the older look ...
haha and im over here with virtually the same car (white ST180 with a stage 1 map) and im contemplating updating to a M140.
Think you should get a tow bar and see it will tow the K truck ok. Fords are power houses for towing capability’s.
Like the way you reviewed this, and seemed a fair review imo. I'd love to see you a manual Golf GTD. If you want cheap motoring this could be the car for you. One minute giving you 60mpg on the motorway, but even when blasting it on a country lane, you still get 30's.
Would also be further interesting to see how a dsg then compares on top. 🙂
Make sure it’s got a decent alarm/immobiliser
Saw a guy driving one with a set of molegrips. Literally nothing you can do to stop them lmao. Just luck of the draw I guess.
Great video. I'm currently having a similar dilemma with my 140. Not sure what to get maybe a type R or Renault sport maybe an i30N.
I went from a fez to a clio mk4 RS. the manual is more fun but clio just goes next level in RS mode. If you're keeping get a induction kit. makes it more fun with the blow off.
im buying a 2016 molten orange one with only 30k miles on it and the paintwork and wheels are immaculate, i wont mention how much im paying for it but hey, its well worth it to me :)
been thinking about selling my Mini SD fully jcw kitted (180bhp stg 1 ) and opting for a fiesta st 🤔 still not sure what to do yet 🤣
Cracking motor, especially when not riced out
Another great video, love the variety on the channel!
nice to see you put your best tracksuit on to match the car image.
JD Sports have already been in touch about a brand deal 🤣
Oil for this car? 5w20? Thanks, my fiesta has 100k km
I had a Z4 coupe 3.0si before I went to my fez. I loved that car and miss it. But it was expensive to run and maintain and it would be even worse today. I've had the fez 5 years now and it does make me smile when out on the road. It's not fast by any means and lots of cars can leave me in their wake. But I know I can enjoy all the power it has and use more of it and most my gears compared to more powerful cars than push 300 to 400 bhp where you are doing 60 in second gear in not time. Will look forward to hearing your thoughts on the fez.
Love the K truck!!!! ST was a good option too
I bought a 63 plate st-2 couple weeks ago with 32000 on the clock
Enjoying it?
@@lookship haha so I’m 18 right, my insurance starts tomorrow so quite exited, I will have been driving for a year tomorrow (for some context).
@@joestatham7106how much was your insurance?! I have 15 years no claims and been driving for 20 years it was still £700 for a year for me!
@@Doppo69 Christ seems steep. First got mine when I was 18 cost 2.5k for a year, second year went down to 2k. Then someone crashed into my baby while she was parked up 🥲 now got a mk8 st 2019 plate and insurance is down again now to 1.7k a year 💪
@@joestatham7106 does seem steep mate I haven’t bought one yet though! The theft thing puts me off slightly…!
I went from a mountune mr230 (big brake kit, everything mountune do) to a m140i stage 2. M140i was a lot quicker after 40mph but the fiesta was so fun!!! If you want to go fast in a corner it’s the fiesta if you wanna go sideways obviously the m140i.
I had a fiesta st with the mountune mr230 kit on it. it was amazing but it had a battery drain so I had to keep jumpstarting it once every couple if days and no garage could find the fault, so I had to get rid off it, so gutted
@lookship
Ive got a st 200, Get some decent tyres on yours. Ive got pilot sport 4s on mine and sorts the car out from bogging down in the dry when i give it some beans 👍
PS3s on this haven't let me down so far!
Well apart from a bit of lift off oversteer haha. Brown trouser moment 🤣
Nice on the corners but in no way a upgrade from the 140i.
Definitely need some added security, wheel lock is the first purchase before the metal dust caps and go fast stripes 😂
if my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike
I have a 2017 fiesta st and a 2019 edge st.Nice video 😀
Ace vid! Love the honesty looking at getting one myself😁how much you looking to spend with that amount of miles on?
10-12k
Comments in here are hilarious I bet most of you haven't even got a driving license,he's had as 140i had fun in it now it's time for something more affordable, fiesta's are great little cars.
I get it, money can be tight. Mad decision tho, I've seen M140s going round the nordschleife at crazy speed. Waiting for the popcorn map and universal credit mods.
🤣🤣
summer is here & we need a Grom ride video
I best book my test! 😉😆
Is teh suspension of the Fiesta ST bearable for a daily drive use or too stiff?
Had an st for 2 and a half years now, love it to bits, but m140 is the dream next car for me. Will keep watching your content, as enjoyed your m140 stuff
Nice hill climb test on the Saltburn esses!
Had the back end step out. The front end sticks like shit 😆
@@lookship went up in the 140 the other week…it’s a bit shiny on that tight left handed when the bus turns, it certainly gets twitchy
I had an ST2 briefly in 2014 but couldn’t get on with the seats … and moved back to BMW. My ST was initially standard then had the MP215 kit added. The Mountune kit made a huge difference to everyday driving and was very noticeable ! Definitely a good buy to get a car with it on.
Ahh man the seats are probably my favourite part of it 😆
Glad to hear the 215 kit was a good choice 👌
@@lookship I think I’m a bit fatter than you 😅
Currently on the hunt for my next car. 22 and graduating in summer. Owned a 1.4 punto since passing my test and in desperate neeed of more power. Trying to decide what to buy is so difficult. Want to go down the M135i route but not sure if its best straight away. Any ideas? Maybe something like this could be worth it 🤔
I wanted more power ever since I passed my test. Ended up with more power than I could use in a chassis that wasn't designed to take it. The Mlites are fantastic cars, but the figures don't do them justice when it comes to using it around the corners.
If you really really want one get it out of your system now. I never thought I'd come back to something like this, but for spirited driving over a B road it's miles more fun with 200-300bhp and a manual box.
@@lookship Ive wanted one for years, always thought they looked proper cool. So might be a case of getting it now then moving on later like you suggested.
I don't think im quite ready for an automatic just yet though 🤣, which is proving to be quite difficult to get a good spec manual for 15-17k which is kinda also throwing me off too.
The cornering isnt something I hadn't really thought about too much also. As much as I want to be able to fly down a dual carridgeway, Ild like to be able to corner a B road without ending up in a hedge and wiping my 5y no claims🤣.
m135i is just a poor mans m140i. chav car anyway youd be better off with an m240i imo
Currently have a fiesta and need a change since it’s coming to the end of it’s life so i was thinking a 1series. Would you recommend it?
I think it was a good choice but still got be sad to see the m140i go?
I’ve got one as a daily for my OG m2 and credit to the fiesta I never feel disappointed when I take the ST out. Are you sure yours is an ST-2 though as it’s got the electronic temp controls from an ST-3? It may have come standard on the earlier cars but the two st-2’s I’ve had (15 and 65 reg) both had the old temp controls
It's got the ST-3 centre screen too so probably is an ST-3 (or has been converted to at least look like one)
Was told it was an ST-2 with the Sat Nav and electronic climate control optional extra. Might aswell be an ST-3. The lad who sold it to me shifts these on the regular so I presume that's the case.
@@lookship looks like an st-2 with upgrades. ST-3 has keyless entry and CC.
Na it’s not an st 3 they come with cruise control on the steering wheel I’ve got one
@@rajamustafa2499 how is the st on an average road? Is it very uncomfortable and any mods to make the ride better?
I'm glad you are happy with the new car(s), I love the pick up !
I looked at a brand new Fiesta ST myself before I bought my M140i.
To be fair, you were not going to make a video saying 'I bought a new car and I hate it' so I'll take it with a pinch of salt, emperor's new clothes and all that.
The Fezza is good handling little hatch but it's not really a direct comparison to the M140i is it. The M140i with adaptive is great, yes the rear end is a bit wobbly, and yes it's a bit floaty at speed, but you are going to be approaching corners a lot faster, and of course RWD handling is completely different to FWD so you take corners in a different way.
The M140i gets a lot of (unfair) criticism in the handling department, but mainly because people compare it to cars like the Golf R, RS3, A45S, etc, and it is never going to be as fast ultimately round corners as an AWD car, and for the money I think it holds up brilliantly. It's bigger than the Fezza, more rear legroom, more boot space, better interior by miles, and comfier in comfort mode as a daily driver, with the added bonus of being much faster and worth much more money to resell.
The ST is a good little car, but it's crashy to drive as a daily, the interior is cheap & nasty, and I just didn't find it as much fun, mainly because the M140i is a real handful when tuned, and that to me makes it exciting. It keeps you on your toes, you have to actually drive the thing.
I don't dislike the ST, but lets be honest, it's not even half the car that the M140i is, and they can't really be compared as they are aimed at totally different market buyers.
For all the Fezza fangirls going on about handling, why didn't you buy an Elise, or Caterham ?
can't wait to see what courtesy car I get in a few weeks time looool
I came from a ST to a M135i and do not regret my decision.
Yet
@@tomelliott9 haha yo dude :) been a little while
@@tomelliott9 😭😭👉👉🤡🤡
Luke, I know you said you got rid of the bmw for cornering speed. If you had the money, would you reconsider getting an s3 or golf r for the awd and handling? Would these be better on the twistys compared to the m140?
Standard both of those would be better in the corners as far as speed is concerned. I'm not exactly sure you'd have as much fun because the 140 was a good laugh to drive - I think it was the fact it kept you on your toes and if you got it wrong you'd die 😅
Saying that, if I did have the money to go out and buy another large performance hatch to go fast round the bends, like a Golf R or A45, I'd probably go with the FK8 Civic Type R. I just prefer FWD in a hot hatch at the moment. I'm sure it's just a phase 😄
@@lookship haha, I used to have a mazda3 mps mk2. Was brilliant. I now have an slk350 which sounds class. Im after an awd drive car now as i need it for winter driving too. Was looking at s3 and a45, but for the same price im tempted with an older rs5. 😬😁
The Mk7 is a gorgeous car and a weapon.
Interested to know why you didn't choose the Mk8 over a Mk7 though, they are a much better car and a far better daily in my opinion (I'm biased obviously due to having a Mk8 ST-3)
Money i imagine
Yep, money.
I had a budget of about 17-18k and I was looking at 275 Trophys, but couldn't find one with the options I wanted on for the price (they do come up they're just rare af). When I looked at other things with that budget the MK8 was an option as was the JCW hatch, but I just thought why not pocket a few quid and buy some mods for the van with the change - which is what I'll be doing 🙂
Tuning potential on the 1.6 from the Mk7 is vastly better, very robust. The Mk8 sounds alot nicer tho 🤣
Just out of curiosity did you get the subframe inserts, underbody chassis brace and a decent tyre/suspension set up before writing the M140i off in the handling department?
I didn't. You're right there are plenty of things you can do to improve them, but straight out the box the ST is an improvement over the 140 on the roads I like to go limiter bashing on 😃
@@lookship I totally agree mate, they're insane value for money. I had a DSG Cupra 300 and still miss how it handles! I was just intrigued to see if you'd upgraded the components above and still didn't feel the 140i was up to scratch.
Seen the link In the fiesta group I should have gone for a white one instead of an all black but then again it’s still as fun to drive with the same map as you and same speck loved the edits don’t doubt your self on not uploads more Videos I’d like to see what you full plans of modifications will be 😃
Black looks awesome for the 20 minutes it's clean 🤣
Had a ST sold it for a 435d, I'm now desperate to sell it for another Fiesta
Got an ST now , looking to get a 435d like you , why you wanting to change back ?
@@certyy3359 Extremely numb to drive, over 100mph they feel extremely shifty and unstable they feel like they're skimming the road
@@certyy3359 I expected a very planted and stable drive from a 'X drive' car but it can't cope at high speed
@@Rookiereece bilstein b12 kit sorts those issues out.
Reece you don’t have a clue..
I daily a 335d and have had a local ST driver trying to get into my back seat a few times. With nothing in front of me the ST gets left way behind....630nm of torque and all that...but once I hit a queue it's back up my arse again. If I was after a little weekend toy I'd consider one for sure and get it mapped and fitted out as much as possible to upset other BMW drivers like me. Plus there is an Audi driver near me who seems to think he is Ayrton Senna....one day he will end up like him. A nippy little ST would be great to wipe the smirk off of his face.
all depends where you are though, if you were on a nice twisty national speed limit b road with not so many long straights i'd bet money the fiesta would still be on your bumper and constantly lifting off the throttle to not rear end you, all about location, i've noticed straight line speed in them aren't that great, had a few occasions where standard family car's have been almost neck and neck at merge points with me giving mine everything it got but as i said these come alive in the corners, brilliant cars just got bad rep from the little boys that financed them from new and ruined them Them remapped 335d's are rappid in a straight line though!
What B road is that?
Great little cars for the money
Isn't top speed 139mph?
I replaced my M140i Shadow Edition with a GR Yaris ! Not looked back since 😉
Also had a mk7 Fiesta ST2 MP215.....cracking car 👍
Gotta admit if I had the wonga I would have done the same. Ridiculous bit of kit. Watch this space there might be another video coming on one 👀
The best hot hatch ever!
I considered a Fiesta ST for it's great handling but it didn't impress me on a test drive . In the end got a megane 250 cup got LSD and basically in the same price range as an ST Mk7
in my country the cost around 10k... so tell me how you can find a megane 250cup with an lsd for that less of money?
@@Gronkhsau I'm not sure on your country's market but here in the UK you can get plenty Megane 250's for 10k , ofc they will have some mileage but it's expected for a 12 year old car
@@mrstudio5389 oh okay. Thats nice.
Just came across your channel great video will be
subscribing to your channel
Cuppa petrol ?
I'd 1000% have another mk7 st any day of the week
Both great cars
FairPlay at least your honest it comes down to money.
Will need that stage 3
Nice little motor!
It does everything I want out of a car matey 👍
@@lookship yeah I often say to myself why pay a fortune for a car as you can't use the power half of them have got in the UK roads, just get something that makes you smile. So what did I do, went and got an A35 AMG! Next time I'll listen to myself!
Should have gotten a 208 bps / clio 4rs trophy / 308gti / m3rs
Wicked car and nice example. After 12 mths with an M140 the honeymoon period for me is well and trully over and the ride/handling is getting on my tits. I am going to spend a bit of money on mods but v interested to see how you get on with the fezza, looks great fun to drive
The ST rides just as hard ifnot harder. But does stick like glue in the bends and very throwable, i came from fiST to 140i
@@Geeman300 take your point, hard is OK, bouncing all over the shop is not though, that's the bit that is annoying me
Getting rid of my ST200 for an m140i.
Can’t wait to get rid of the chav mobile 🤢
Haha as far as 'edition' cars go the ST200 looks well smart
m140's are just as chavvy 😂
@@craig1996 Stop crying about your slow chavy st mate please lol
@@craig1996 Stop crying about your slow chavy st mate please lol
Not a big fan of ford altogether. But hey if everyone was the same be bit boring. Just think the B58 is class engine platform and they can go far. Bit of let down fiesta ST 😦.
They need to put that engine in an M chassis. The tuning potential is mental. But they won't do it because they know it'll out perform certain M cars out there atm...
I'm off to ebay to see what's about, certainly more suited to where I drive than the BMW.
I paid a 11k if I remember right. Can probably pick up a newer model with a few more miles than mine for the same amount, but the mountune kit swayed it for me since I didn't want to go down the route of modifying it myself. Or so I keep saying, it's bound to happen.
@@lookship 11k for a 63 plate seems very steep. seen 16 or 17 plates for that much
Honestly in an M240i I see why you did it
Good car them little fiestas
I’ll be getting a fiesta to 👍🏻
ST180 is 197bhp and ST200 is 213bhp
Amazing car, but I won't call front wheel dtive a positive thing
I prefer it for the roads I drive on, but nothing beats a skid 🔥
Still would of considered the Pug 208 GTI 30th/Peugeot Sport edition...
More power, 4 pot brembos up front, torsen diff, better fuel economy and funky paint job in the red/black...
The spec sheet states the 208 30th can achieve nearly 53mpg on cruise