While researching for this video, why didn't you Google how to pronounce "Chang'e"? Did you just read it and assume you knew how to pronounce it? Or did you think, since you're American, you'd just invent your own pronunciation?
I absolutely LOVE Jatan’s Blog. It’s a thoroughly researched, extremely well written treasure trove of information for all things Lunar exploration. The amount of effort he puts in each of his post is simply astounding. All the sources are well cited too for anyone to dig even deeper. Thank you so much for bringing his posts to video format! He had other newsletter related to Indian Space Program and some of his personal space musings too which are just as well good. Moon Monday is a delightful part of my Monday routine 😊
@@walkingwithsandels5728 He could be very charming, a great cook, a witty raconteur... The only point I was making is that he pronounces words like a typical American - he just guesses. And unfortunately he guessed wrongly. Being unbiased is irrelevant.
The China rocket, Long March 5, only can carry 9t to moon orbit. It is why Chinese government choose send a rover rather than astronauts or building a moon base. Compared with space x starship( it can carry 100t to the moon orbit), it is really unbelievable success.
@@jamesyu8857China will soon actually send astronauts to the moon not just put a foot print on it, they will build a base! They won’t “land on the moon” like how US Hollywood has… don’t worry 😂
They don't cover anything that doesn't make them seem superior to everyone else. They'd rather have a story about an old person donating a hundred bucks to a school than to China returning a sample from the moon. Sad world we live in.
I'm Filipino, and yes there is a concerning amount of tension between us, but I speak for all other Filipinos who believe in peace, that this is a success for China, yes, but a success for humanity as a whole.
The current South China Sea dispute comes from the differences among Philippine politicians. In fact, this is not new. For ordinary people, whether Filipinos or China people. Will not make your salary increase.😅Just because Americans want to start an argument again, it's obvious, isn't it? I hope there won't be a war,Only China and the Philippines were hurt in the end. Americans just laugh.
@@Gyro-721 You are being very naive in believing that the Chicoms want peace. You are woefully very ignorant of their agenda and plans for major world power and wanting to control the people of your region and illegally invading Taiwan as well as force feed their "Tofu Dreg" products as well as projects upon you. You obviously haven't been paying attention to what the Chicom navy is doing to your fishermen or your coastguard.
Crazy they were able to coordinate the autonomous sample return, rendezvous, and transfer all while only having 1 com sat in range from the far side of the moon. This means they had to wait for a rendezvous with not only the orbiter, but also make sure the relay was overhead the whole time. Wild. Mad respect, hope this kind of method can be used for the mars sample return.
Crazy how they have enough money to go to the moon, but not enough to save people drowning from a collapsed bridge, or regulate gutter oil and water contamination in their own country.
And they are now planning and testing (with 2 little companion sats along with the Queqiao-2 relay sat) a combined lunar satellite constellation for communication, navigation and remote sensing. This is part of the plan for their future moon base.
Im Vietnamese and Im proud of China space program. Despite our conflicts, I believe China space program bring the world good as they are the only country to have its own space station and they follow a rigid timeline to achieve their goal. Great work China!
The names of China's aerospace industry all come from Chinese mythology. Chang'e is a beautiful goddess living on the moon, and her palace is called the Heavenly Palace. She has a pet named Jade Rabbit, and her husband is an ordinary person living on Earth. When they meet, they need a bird called a magpie to build a bridge, which is called the Magpie Bridge.
By the way, Chang'e was an ordinary human being on earth, who then ascended into a goddess living on the moon. Chang'e's back story makes it a fitting name for moonlanders. The Heavenly Palace (Tian Gong) is the place where all gods and goddesses live, which is present in multiple Chinese mythological stories. The Magpie Bridge (Que Qiao) is from another story named The Cowherd and the Weaver Girl. It is the story behind Qixi, the Chinese Valentine's Day. It is about the forbidden romance between the Cowherd and the Weaver Girl. They got banished to opposite sides of the Heavenly River (essentially the Milky Way). Once a year, on the day of Qixi, a flock of magpies would form the Magpie Bridge to reunite the lovers for a single day. Hence the name for those communication satellites.
Boeing is up to its gills in Artemis. So, they will have to up their game for lunar surface exploration, and exploitation (which, when you think about it, are Siamese Twins).
@@gavroche22 I'd be more than happy to, but i'm not studying in the sense of working, there's a university program called "space technology" at Luleå University of Technology and the last 2 years are spent at the space campus in Kiruna for these last two years I am personally doing "spacecraft design" but you also have the choice of "atmospheric physics"
❤❤❤An excellent relatively non biased detailed report on China’s aspiration with regard to her Moon missions, sans hype and western propaganda. Thank you.. it is hoped that those who viewed China’s activities with antagonism and suspicions could at least view these with open and more receptive mind.🙏🙏🌹
Totally agreed. Humanity working together is nice and all, but human behavior suggests that adding some illogical human emotion to the mix does a space program good.
@@davidgmaloof For China, this is not a competition. China is just perfectly executing its plan 20 years ago. This plan is currently announced to land on the moon in 2030, but it is obvious that there will be further space development plans later. What is the United States doing? The United States has only one plan: to land on the moon again before China and declare its victory. What happens next? Just like 70 years ago, destroy all data,
Not really a competition. We've sent more complex rovers to Mars. We've sent actual humans to the moon 60 years ago. China still can't. If they are competing with anyone, it's India.
Not only does it motivate us to DO the space thing, but each "team" plays a bit differently. So, we end up with different strategies, designs, and aesthetics. One nation can't try everything. It would be too messy and confusing for the people working on these projects, and the funding (both monetary and from public support) would be spread too thin to give the punch that space plans need to succeed. If you have competition, our species can get away with trying multiple methods without any cons, and with all the pros. Plus, there's a certain extent of artistic joy that comes with seeing these nations build their spacecraft into different shapes and colors and patterns. I remember seeing the Mars-94 from FAM and thinking wow that shit dope, why didn't we get one of those? Each culture brings their own flare into the scene, and I am HERE for it.
It's really awesome to see this. I hope it will actually trigger new space race. China's plan is ambitious. Also great to see european instruments on the surface
Yes, China is seriously in gear. But I think SpaceX will be first with the HLS. Now that the launch of starship has been successful twice, HLS can be built and tested. Knowing SpaceX they'll build a few of them with more spares out back. My guess is they'll do an unmanned landing of the HLS before they send a crewed one. China is a long way from a manned moon craft and lander, a few years behind SpaceX although that gap can shrink a lot. Their biggest problem however, is rockets. Do they even have anything remotely capable of launching a manned craft + lander to the moon?
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 i don't think so. HSL is never tested concept from private company. China is launching similar to existing systems + it is purely run by gov = can push things thru faster. The main question is wether this or artemis will be first
@@brabecjakub You have no idea how fast SpaceX is moving. Not one iota of a clue. HLS is a modified version of starship that has now demonstrated it can land. Which means it should be much easier even for HLS with a fully propulsive descent to the moon's surface.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 will see... even when technically possible, it will be really expensive and would have to have "reason" to do that. It would be awesome tho
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 the Starship HLS requires at least 15 Starships (which have never reached Earth orbit so far) refuelling it in orbit in order to land on and take off from the Moon.
That is such a cool concept to melt the lunar regolith using a magnifying glass into the shape you can use to build something. That's amazing, I hope they can do that because regardless of how strong it will be that would just be cool to start building stuff on other plants.
Well according to their official road map, we will see a full fledged research base capable of housing a dozen researchers before 2040, or 2035 if sooner
Imagine the Roman Empire being around today, in pretty much the same size and shape as it was at its peak, developing a space program and sending rovers and eventually humans to the moon. Them giving their programs names such as Gemini, Apollo and Artemis would invoke the same pride and reverence the Chinese for giving theirs names such as Shenzhou, Chang E, Queqiao and Yutu.
@@captives6479 Yes, because we like to stand up for the weak. If we want to scold YT, we can scold YT. Such people will not graduate from American universities. It's so strange.
it is called repression, when young people are denied to study law and medicine, they were forced to study STEM. oh, wait, my transcript has some issues, studying STEM are actually extremely popular in China.
I love the co operation from nations around the world. I can only hope that space exploration transcends our differences here on earth. I’m looking at you NASA.
NASA isn't the problem. In 2011, the U.S. government passed a bill that prohibits China from participation in our space programs (including the ISS), and also prevents NASA from working with China.
@@johntomasik1555 The fact that Americans still has no interest to repeal the Wolf Amendment as of 2024 says a lot about how Americans view the Chinese's space exploration effort, isn't it?
@@kngharv Very possibly. I know it's anecdotal, but most people I ever engage in conversation about China believe that the entire country is evil from its root core. It's typical government propaganda leading the masses. The U.S. is no different, and in many ways worse. Kinda funny, since many companies and consumers have no issue chasing bottom dollar through China's suppliers.
It is so sad for me as Russian citizen to hear about all of your and Chinese successful missions. Roscosmos does almost nothing in “Moon to Mars” direction. Anyway, glad to hear about other world’s missions and be a part of humanity. Sorry for my English
I think Russia has been focused on recovery after the 1990s...I believe they will soon be very involved partnering with China and other BRICKS+ nations.
@@antonvoloshin9833 The strategic pressure brought by NATO's eastward expansion forces Russia to respond. Just like China's sending troops to NK and the US' encirclement of Cuba. The weak economy makes Russia lack the means to counterattack, and can only resort to the lowest level of war violence. If Russia still wants to retain its status as a great power, it should not question the necessity of counterattack. Please note that Putin has tried to ease relations with the West for a long time, but NATO only wants Russia to die, not to accept Russia's surrender. China's sending troops to NK also brought its already fragile domestic economy to the brink of collapse, but not participating in the war would harm the interests of several generations. But as an individual, you are free.
@@genebohannon8820you dont get it. What he meant really: China doesnt even care about US who thinks China is a threat just because now they have real tech to send rover to mars and collect samples, unlike US's trick to make people believe that they had send a human to the moon (no they didnt, they just made the video of a human land on moon using hollwood's movie making technique)
@@genebohannon8820thats funny, almost all food producing counties have good ties with china, you can even argue the strongest ally of china is american farmers, imagine having food issues
If only their form of government and societal structure weren't so backwards and authoritarian. Free people would've accomplished these things MUCH faster.
China will need two launches for every manned Moon mission. NASA will need 15-20, assuming Starship can eventually perform as advertised (doubtful). It's pretty clear how things are going to go..
@@oldmech619 no, lol this is an actual person who went on a honeymoon a few weeks ago and left the channel to another person with another voice 😆 whom we grilled in the comments, and then felt sorry for when the original begged us to forgive him and tell us to be nice to him as he was going on a honeymoon. 😂
Around 2038 the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS), led by the Russians and the Chinese, will be utilized at the lunar south pole. Whether it will be a lunar orbital station and/or a base on the surface of the Moon, or a base made of inflatable modules inside a lunar lava tube, is still an open question.
Westerners really need to learn basic Chinese pronunciations. For example Chang-e: the “a” in Chang is more of an “ah” sound, and the “e” sounds like “uh.” Ch-ah-ng-uh. And before people say Chinese pronunciations are hard, I don’t want to hear about it because the US has Kansas and Arkansas
@@jayscott7152 I learned Mandarin almost 20 years ago, and I'm a westerner. Seemed like a good idea to learn at least one of the other 3 most spoken languages on the planet.
What I want to know is will the Chinese release the determinative information which can be used to find out exactly what kind of cheese the moon is composed of.
Data on the Chang-E missions have routinely been released, even on international papers. You just need to read Chinese. English medias won't report them.
I think- I'm not really sure- but I think that the reason the CNSA keeps calling Lunar modules/ missions by the "Chang'e" designation, is that according to folklore/ mythology, Chang'e was the name of some celestial figure or other, who lived in the moon. Thus, the name would make any/ all of the missions immediately understandable to the Chinese people. It would be the same as if Jesus was supposed to live on the moon, instead of 'in the clouds' and if NASA called all their moon-missions a variety of "Jesus 1, Jesus 2, etc..."
@@passby8070 Sorry to be unkind about this, but if a person needs to 'look up' ANYTHING about Apollo, then they had a crap education! They've got a LOT of work to do, if they ever want to appreciate the rich tapestry of human history.
No. don't get too ahead of yourself. the americans did what you're doing 60 years ago. difficult to land on the far side? you just need a relay satellite, do you know how many US satellites are on the moon as of now? china has a mere 1😂
No, Artemis has been planned and in the works for decades. It's not like we tossed together an SLS rocket over a weekend and threw up a capsule we had lying around (you think government works that fast?). NASA learned a lot from orbit, but they want to learn more about the rest of the star system. This is where the lunar "Gateway" comes in. For reaching anywhere else in the solar system, it would be much easier and more efficient, for a number of reasons, namely not having to fight with Earth's massive gravity or atmosphere, to set up a vehicle at the gateway station and begin from there. All while also allowing easy access to the lunar service. Artemis has been in the works in some form since the early 00s. It aligns with NASA's goals going forward, which is why we're transitioning to that from the ISS over the next decade. So no, no pissing matches or conspiracies here, just a good agency trying to do the best science they can with the budget they're given.
artemus is way over budget and is a bunch of old shuttle parts glued together .Nasa is an embarrassment these days . Now SpaceX is worth talking about .
@@genebohannon8820 No point in having the tools if you don't have the wits. I'm not sure the Chinese have ANY friendly intentions. Yeah, heard of SpaceX . . .
I heard from recent news that China confirmed that water can be extracted from the moon soil on some part of the moon which is crucial for the future moon station.
It is d pride of any country if it can successfully send rockets, man / women into space n returns safely.. Of course d a moon landing that is d icing in space travel time being.. ❤❤❤❤Zhongguo ' Jia You' ❤❤❤
Exactly, in the ancient legend, Chang'e is a woman living on the moon. Every year on Valentine's Day in China, she meets her husband on Queqiao - a bridge (the name of the relay satellite).
Since Long March-10 has never flown, it would be nice to mention the Starship. That is nearly 10 times the lift capacity of the Long March 10. Starship can carry 250 tons in a non -reusable form, nearly 10 times that of the Long March-10..
There was another video that stated the starship needs to be refueled in earths orbit before it could leave towards the moon. It would take 10 to 15 starship size launches to get the fuel required into orbit. Then there is the problem of restarting the engines to begin the journey to the moon. So there is a lot of parts that need to be solved for starship. In summary. There is a lot of work to be done to man the moon on both sides.
@@carljohnson45 So HLS can take a lot of equipment and people there. 10-15 refuels seems like a lot, but if Starship can be operated much more cheaply than the F9/FH, then it could become quite routine. Also Spacex would need to do most launches over the horizon on floating platforms, otherwise that's too much noise for the local populations.
I'm beginning to wonder if the focus on reusability and size might be working against Space X and NASA. Look at the progress the Chinese are making with more "traditional" moon landing systems. It won't be much good having a huge, reusable rocket if the Chinese run the moon base and they have all the advantages of that
Starship can carry 250 tons to LOW EARTH ORBIT, and LM10 mentioned here is expected to carry 27 tons to EARTH-LUNAR INJECTION ORBIT. LEO lift capability of LM10 is about 70 tons so you can say that expendable Starship will be 3.5 times more powerful than LM10.
Isn't it better if the sites are in the same crater? They'll still km away, but close enough to help each other in case of emergency. Am I unbelievably naive?
Problem is that some countries spend years and decades sleeping while China was investing heavily into their own country and now those other countries are shouting " China is a major risk!!! ". Look I don't agree with everything CCP does but China is not just CCP. The whole country has so many brilliant and talented people!
there's a law called wolf amendment since late 90's prohibiting ANY space activity with any american government fund to have ANY cooperation with china without a waver from the senate. just give you an idea. if you are a NASA employee, a simple call from chinese space agency to your office phone can NOT be answered if you know the call origin, otherwise, you would be subject to criminal prosecution... lol
Enough money already spent on NASA, while, more and more is still not enough, delay after delay and so on is the scenarios., just like an ultimately deep trap with no bottom (NASA).
@@Three_Random_Words spacex is excellent with rockets but they have zero other skills required for a landing. Their moon lander is a joke, why bother sending a giant starship as a lander? Elon don't do collaboration and it seems to be all his ideas. Have you seen those spacex conferences, so cringy, everyone either terrified or in total ass kissing mode.
@@texan-american200 Chang’e is collaborating with many western nations as you can see from the video, just not with the US for obvious political factors. That said US has recently requested moon soil samples from China, who agreed to share.
Re-usable rockets vs all the Chinese recent achievements. Elon's mainly operating launches to LEO, impressive with their first stage usability, although it hardly compares to moon landings, and the Chinese space station. What we need is for Elon to defect to China
Here's what you need to know. The far side of the moon HAS NO WATER. When the moon formed, gravity from earth pulled liquid water towards the visible side. The far side got only Steam Venting.
Oddly enough they didn’t design their lander to be more than twice as high as the width of their landing legs, like all the western ones that keep tipping over.
6:30 The Que-Qiao satellite constellation: The first moon navigation and communication system. OK, I need a moon-phone to call Earth and find my way to my moon-home.
Yes, it's always slower than predicted. Apollo was the exception - but that was brute force with 5% of the US budget and 400,000 people at it's peak in 1967.
I'm 100% behind the Chinese moon program. I am still completely at a loss as to how the USA and NASA lost the initiative so completely regarding space.
Well if Spacex with Starship can do it relatively affordably, that will be a huge game changer. I have no confidence in Boeing or the SLS, it's not sustainable financially speaking. The Apollo program had 400,000 people working on it at the peak of development in 1967. Spacex is doing far more dollar wise with only 13,000. Don't forget about NASA's JPL - the US has explored the Solar System nearly completely with probes. Far more than all other players combined - when you do the math. At least the EU is getting serious in that department.
@@thefleecer3673 "About Air is important is a non profit organisation promoting climactic justice and compulsory diversity excluding white scum" With some punctuation and some thought, that would make more sense. I'm not quite sure of what you are trying to say on your About page.
Just to mention, since the lunar environment is quite harsh for astronauts to live, how to achieve workforce productivity is huge challenges, maybe we will need new concept of "Taylorism" on the moon… For instance,some hot pepper from South America maybe can become “natural stimulates" for astronauts to work longer hours without damage their health, because maybe some peppers can stimulate human brain,and that's why maybe South American workers can be more"energetic"due to the eating habits…On the contrary, Asian peppers don't have that effect(just for change of tastes)~ Anyway,it's worth to dive into the issues,hmm
I predicted when starship was announced and the plan to colonize the moon and Mars, that China would soon suddenly step up to meet the challenge. It took a few years, but now it's overly evident China is gunning for the moon, and probably in particular Shackleton crater, which also will be NASA's primary target. Shackleton is absolutely loaded with permanently shaded water ice.
@TheSpaceRaceYT Not Chang-E but sound like Chang-Eh. Chang-e(嫦娥) is wife of a hero 'The Archer' (houyi, 后羿) in Chinese myth. She ate all the elixir of immortality her hasband found in end of west land, when a men who envy the hero wanted to rob the elixir. Eat half of the elixir for immoetal and all for being god, so Chang-e flght above toward tian-gong (天宫, palace in sky) (←also the name for Chinese space station). She very miss her hasband so she stay on the moon, where she live is called guang-han-gong (广寒宫, vast&cold palace) or chan-gong (蟾宫, toad palace) (ancient Chinese think moon is avatar of a toad). There's also a rabbit called yue-tu (月兔, moon raabbit) (←also the name for Chinese moon rover) and a man forever choping the sweet scented osmanthus tree called wu-gang (吴刚) living there accoding to Chinese myth.
Well done China on there space program, the lunar lander samples are being studied by Chinese and French scientists with some early results which are extraordinary more to come, Great video as always
Will these countries be sharing scientific knowledge with all of Earth's scientists? If so, I am so happy there is competition to encourage innovation, and more science is being returned to the world
nah, you do what the US tell you to do, as all vassals do. US blows up Nordstream, an act of war, and you just stand there smiling like an idiot while Germany de-industrializes.
@@stevennotthe2997 If you're homeless in America, it's your own fault. All those that are, vast majority of them are the way they are for ONE reason......DRUG ABUSE!!!! Nobody made them get addicted to dope. They can't shake the booze. They can't shake the dope. Therefore they can't make a real life for themselves.
I've been to China six times, totaling about 9 months, for work. I had a great time and totally enjoyed working with my Chinese colleagues. But I was so happy to return to the US every time. I am way to vocal and opinionated for China.
@@directxxxx71 Perhaps so, but my job of moving 10K Chinese manufacturing jobs to the US in 2018 was sensitive enough that my American employer wanted no "political" issues while I was in China. Mission accomplished. :)
Letting only the current world superpowers have access to other planets surely will end well, and not with private property in them that will cause conflict.
Its amazing and sad at the same time ... We ar seeing real progress but also stubbornness between nations. Disappointingly we wont see joint exploration - imagine the things humans could do! Right now we seem to be burning money with SpaceX and when you get way down in the weeds in 2024 the vaunted US still has a decommissioning ISS, giant rockets that burn up but in end can't lift the kgs needed and other nations out shinning NASA. But thankfully we do have innovative smaller companies (see Tenacity) doing great things. Im no expert just a normal Joe looking on at space exploration with awe and the hopes I will see man living on moon in my lifetime.😊
In what way do you feel SpaceX is wasting money? Not trolling, I'm genuinely interested in your reasoning. Noone is more disappointed in how the US and NASA failed to build on their success, so I'm very happy to see SpaceX injecting some very much needed momentum in the space race.
@@PersonalityMalfunctioni might suggest its the obsession with huge (too big?) Reusable rockets instead of just getting on with setting up a moon base
@@thefleecer3673 Honestly the development of truly reusable launch vehicles is by far SpaceX's most impressive achievement, which is why China is going to do it also (and are making great strides in doing so). It just makes sense. Imagine how expensive airline flights would be if they threw away the entire airplane after every flight. The same is true for spaceflight, but even moreso and with a much higher dollar amount. Just play Kerbal Space Program and do it yourself, developing a fully recoverable reusable launch vehicle is basically a "never run out of money ever again" cheat code. But also I do think we should be working with China in exploring space. We should all be communists with a beautiful international glorious communist space program. Competition is not the only way, in fact I believe it's the wrong way. Cooperation will always get us farther than competition ever will, because competition requires losers and only has one winner, whereas cooperation is the mutual pursuit of a win for everyone.
"And I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords" 😆 Seriously though, this makes NASA look a little weak when they were able to send men to the moon but can't do something impressive yet reasonably straight-forward like this. Even India sent a probe. Seems China will be the go-to for small space experiments for a number of nations.
What a strange comment. Are you purposely ignoring all of NASA's scientific accomplishments from the last 30 years, and currently doing, or are you really that ignorant?
@@thedausthed There are only three ships that can dock with the ISS. Guess it's Russia, or SpaceX $350 million? If there's a space available on one ship, why not come back? Do you think Boeing has a choice? The food is almost gone.
China believes in multi-polarity and win-win cooperation. Unlike the US, they know the futility of hegemony, but US too young as a country to know any better.
Too bad our budget is in the unnecessary military instead of advancing technology and making all lives better because of it through space travel. The U.S. is too obsessed with war to realize that going to other planets and moons helps everyone. China will beat us in every way, looks like they actually realize that it's important for our species. Very sad that NASA has to work with such a small budget to get so much done. All of our hope is in Space X now.
China spends about $400B USD adjusted for PPP on its military as well. Imagine what China could accomplish if they didn't support the world's largest military! Interesting for such a humanitarian, you didn't bring any of this up.😏
@@davidgmaloof US - 320 million people; military expenditure: 905 billion China: 1.2 billion people, military expenditure: 407 billion US spends 10x what China spends per person. Nobody knows why the US is so warmongering and has 200 military basis around the globe while also have an arsenal of 5k nukes. Tbh the nukes and military in the US would be more than enough to defend from any threat
@@benjaminmeusburger4254 I get what you are saying, but calculating military expenditure per capita only makes sense if you plan to turn your military on your own people. There is no way China would ever do that...oh wait... :(
The United States likes to attribute its internal contradictions to one country. In particular racial discrimination. Black people are not treated equally. The problem is social contribution. The United States does not recognize class issues. I admit, black people are not good at some things. This makes them miserable in the United States, and they have no money to live. When a person has no money to live, it is easy to commit crimes. The United States government is not responsible. In China, the homeless man is trained by the government to find him a job. The poor will be subsidized. There will be fewer vagrants, the crime rate will be reduced, and society will be stable. As a Chinese, I am puzzled by one thing. Isn't it the most basic way for the government to redeem the poor? At least in China. However, it seems that the United States is unwilling to do things without interests. The United States will only weaken slowly, not become great again.
China is way ahead in remote control and communication technology. The robotic automatic mission of moon orbit docking and moon samples retrieval is out of this world! Let the west keep silence of jealousy 😂😂😂
The West have done sample return from a frikkin' asteroid. Having said that, I'd rather there was a little more trust and co-operation and less empiric posturing and tribalism.
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While researching for this video, why didn't you Google how to pronounce "Chang'e"? Did you just read it and assume you knew how to pronounce it? Or did you think, since you're American, you'd just invent your own pronunciation?
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I absolutely LOVE Jatan’s Blog. It’s a thoroughly researched, extremely well written treasure trove of information for all things Lunar exploration. The amount of effort he puts in each of his post is simply astounding. All the sources are well cited too for anyone to dig even deeper. Thank you so much for bringing his posts to video format!
He had other newsletter related to Indian Space Program and some of his personal space musings too which are just as well good. Moon Monday is a delightful part of my Monday routine 😊
@@nagualdesignbro cmon his the most unbiased guy in space YT. His research is good. I give him a pass on pronunciations
@@walkingwithsandels5728 He could be very charming, a great cook, a witty raconteur... The only point I was making is that he pronounces words like a typical American - he just guesses. And unfortunately he guessed wrongly. Being unbiased is irrelevant.
That was an unbelievably success, it's actually a shame this isn't covered well by the western press, and most independents as well
The China rocket, Long March 5, only can carry 9t to moon orbit. It is why Chinese government choose send a rover rather than astronauts or building a moon base. Compared with space x starship( it can carry 100t to the moon orbit), it is really unbelievable success.
It may be awhile before Starship makes it to the moon.
@@jamesyu8857 Obviously, they are not going to send astronauts right away. They have to perfect going there first.
@@jamesyu8857China will soon actually send astronauts to the moon not just put a foot print on it, they will build a base! They won’t “land on the moon” like how US Hollywood has… don’t worry 😂
They don't cover anything that doesn't make them seem superior to everyone else. They'd rather have a story about an old person donating a hundred bucks to a school than to China returning a sample from the moon. Sad world we live in.
I'm Filipino, and yes there is a concerning amount of tension between us, but I speak for all other Filipinos who believe in peace, that this is a success for China, yes, but a success for humanity as a whole.
The current South China Sea dispute comes from the differences among Philippine politicians. In fact, this is not new. For ordinary people, whether Filipinos or China people. Will not make your salary increase.😅Just because Americans want to start an argument again, it's obvious, isn't it? I hope there won't be a war,Only China and the Philippines were hurt in the end. Americans just laugh.
@@Gyro-721
You are being very naive in believing that the Chicoms want peace. You are woefully very ignorant of their agenda and plans for major world power and wanting to control the people of your region and illegally invading Taiwan as well as force feed their "Tofu Dreg" products as well as projects upon you. You obviously haven't been paying attention to what the Chicom navy is doing to your fishermen or your coastguard.
As an American I agree with this! China’s rise and development can benefit the world, not threaten it
@@jallen1917 ccp would use it as a means of power not just benefit for humanity because humanity is divided not equal
菲律宾人根本理解不了世界最大工业国是什么概念，也无法理解055有多大威力
Crazy they were able to coordinate the autonomous sample return, rendezvous, and transfer all while only having 1 com sat in range from the far side of the moon. This means they had to wait for a rendezvous with not only the orbiter, but also make sure the relay was overhead the whole time. Wild. Mad respect, hope this kind of method can be used for the mars sample return.
Crazy how they have enough money to go to the moon, but not enough to save people drowning from a collapsed bridge, or regulate gutter oil and water contamination in their own country.
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx？？？？？
And they are now planning and testing (with 2 little companion sats along with the Queqiao-2 relay sat) a combined lunar satellite constellation for communication, navigation and remote sensing. This is part of the plan for their future moon base.
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx你的发言充满偏见，地沟油都是多少年前的事了，你这种人就应该在博物馆的展示柜里
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rxAbandon your brain is pretty good, but what is the cost?
Im Vietnamese and Im proud of China space program. Despite our conflicts, I believe China space program bring the world good as they are the only country to have its own space station and they follow a rigid timeline to achieve their goal. Great work China!
HAHA they won't share shit.
Dude , I wish you were right but you ain't .China hates everyone that is not chinese .
@@aditube8781Moon base is already planned with multiple countries signed on
谢谢越南兄弟❤
❤❤
The names of China's aerospace industry all come from Chinese mythology. Chang'e is a beautiful goddess living on the moon, and her palace is called the Heavenly Palace. She has a pet named Jade Rabbit, and her husband is an ordinary person living on Earth. When they meet, they need a bird called a magpie to build a bridge, which is called the Magpie Bridge.
谢谢你，但你把两个故事搞混了
NO！嫦娥的丈夫是后裔，你把“牛郎织女”和“嫦娥奔月”的故事混淆了。😂
Her palace is called Guanghan Palace 广寒宫
By the way, Chang'e was an ordinary human being on earth, who then ascended into a goddess living on the moon. Chang'e's back story makes it a fitting name for moonlanders.
The Heavenly Palace (Tian Gong) is the place where all gods and goddesses live, which is present in multiple Chinese mythological stories.
The Magpie Bridge (Que Qiao) is from another story named The Cowherd and the Weaver Girl. It is the story behind Qixi, the Chinese Valentine's Day. It is about the forbidden romance between the Cowherd and the Weaver Girl. They got banished to opposite sides of the Heavenly River (essentially the Milky Way). Once a year, on the day of Qixi, a flock of magpies would form the Magpie Bridge to reunite the lovers for a single day. Hence the name for those communication satellites.
你知道的太多了😊
Lets hope NASA doesn't ask Boeing to run the "catch-up program'.
Boeing is up to its gills in Artemis. So, they will have to up their game for lunar surface exploration, and exploitation (which, when you think about it, are Siamese Twins).
Nobody wants to send astronauts to the moon who won't be able to come back........
due to more gas leakages.
I think Russia and China back Boeing in its endeavours😘
or lack of. You would think Boeing would have the experience to get things right first time. It's not their first BBQ ...
better use exploding starships...
2006年的时候，美国、俄罗斯、印度、日本都宣布了野心勃勃的月球计划，有的说要载人登月，有的说要建设绕月空间站，甚至说要建设月面基地。只有中国中规中矩地抛出了2007年探月、2010s无人登月、2020年月面采样返回的计划。现在2024年了，那些野心勃勃的月球计划全都杳无音信，只有中国按部就班地完成了当年宣布的计划，当中国再次提出在2030年载人登月的计划时，没人会不信他们做得到。
印度算是降下去了，虽然印度宣传口天天放卫星，但是航天口还是在尽力干活的。
美国方面，SpaceX和深空探测领域也都还行，波音本来没有技术问题，但是因为各种整体性的你懂的原因，自己作死成了这样。
日本本来也有些实力，但是这次丢脸了。
俄罗斯大概早就已经没脸可丢了。
美国基本也在做说的事情，阿耳忒弥斯计划已经进展很深了，火箭去年都首发了，就是进度慢了点
@@hxi7141 ……美国的计划是“最早在2015年前、最迟不过2020年将美国人重新送回月球，并在月球建立起一个长期基地作为登陆火星和其他星球的跳板。”再看看如今的进度，这可不是慢了一点两点。
@@hxi7141 虽然技术层面美国这种集全球人才的国家是无敌的，但是效率太低了，花费也忒高了 。
@@bepondyoung3225 美国正在走航天任务和工业从国家向民营的巨大转移，而且进展非常的快，未来火箭，载人航天，甚至空间站，都将是私人主导
I study at the Swedish institute for space physics & it’s so cool hearing you mention it
Your future is in China if you do wanna achieve something big!
Are you doing physical simulation or theoretical physics? Would you like to share some about your life in the institute?
@@gavroche22 I'd be more than happy to, but i'm not studying in the sense of working, there's a university program called "space technology" at Luleå University of Technology and the last 2 years are spent at the space campus in Kiruna
for these last two years I am personally doing "spacecraft design" but you also have the choice of "atmospheric physics"
I am soooo loving these videos about China's space exploration ambitions. You can only take so much-repeated info about NASA & SpaceX 🙈
Uhh, cuz we did this 60 years ago? We're sending more complex things to Mars...
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx huh?
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx69種性別的宇航員？🤣
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rx Far side of the moon? In your dream maybe.
@@PositiveOnly-dm3rxok CIA bot 👌
❤❤❤An excellent relatively non biased detailed report on China’s aspiration with regard to her Moon missions, sans hype and western propaganda. Thank you.. it is hoped that those who viewed China’s activities with antagonism and suspicions could at least view these with open and more receptive mind.🙏🙏🌹
Um so what did China discover? Do tell.
All the very best to China
Simply impressed by its achievement since 2000.
I love space competition
Totally agreed. Humanity working together is nice and all, but human behavior suggests that adding some illogical human emotion to the mix does a space program good.
Better than an arm race for sure.
@@davidgmaloof For China, this is not a competition. China is just perfectly executing its plan 20 years ago. This plan is currently announced to land on the moon in 2030, but it is obvious that there will be further space development plans later. What is the United States doing? The United States has only one plan: to land on the moon again before China and declare its victory. What happens next? Just like 70 years ago, destroy all data,
Not really a competition. We've sent more complex rovers to Mars. We've sent actual humans to the moon 60 years ago. China still can't.
If they are competing with anyone, it's India.
Not only does it motivate us to DO the space thing, but each "team" plays a bit differently. So, we end up with different strategies, designs, and aesthetics. One nation can't try everything. It would be too messy and confusing for the people working on these projects, and the funding (both monetary and from public support) would be spread too thin to give the punch that space plans need to succeed. If you have competition, our species can get away with trying multiple methods without any cons, and with all the pros.
Plus, there's a certain extent of artistic joy that comes with seeing these nations build their spacecraft into different shapes and colors and patterns. I remember seeing the Mars-94 from FAM and thinking wow that shit dope, why didn't we get one of those? Each culture brings their own flare into the scene, and I am HERE for it.
The automated scoping, mining and return of cool rocks from the far side of the moon to earth is indeed an impressive feat of engineering. Hats off!
It's really awesome to see this. I hope it will actually trigger new space race. China's plan is ambitious. Also great to see european instruments on the surface
Yes, China is seriously in gear. But I think SpaceX will be first with the HLS. Now that the launch of starship has been successful twice, HLS can be built and tested. Knowing SpaceX they'll build a few of them with more spares out back. My guess is they'll do an unmanned landing of the HLS before they send a crewed one. China is a long way from a manned moon craft and lander, a few years behind SpaceX although that gap can shrink a lot. Their biggest problem however, is rockets. Do they even have anything remotely capable of launching a manned craft + lander to the moon?
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 i don't think so. HSL is never tested concept from private company. China is launching similar to existing systems + it is purely run by gov = can push things thru faster. The main question is wether this or artemis will be first
@@brabecjakub You have no idea how fast SpaceX is moving. Not one iota of a clue. HLS is a modified version of starship that has now demonstrated it can land. Which means it should be much easier even for HLS with a fully propulsive descent to the moon's surface.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 will see... even when technically possible, it will be really expensive and would have to have "reason" to do that. It would be awesome tho
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 the Starship HLS requires at least 15 Starships (which have never reached Earth orbit so far) refuelling it in orbit in order to land on and take off from the Moon.
That is such a cool concept to melt the lunar regolith using a magnifying glass into the shape you can use to build something. That's amazing, I hope they can do that because regardless of how strong it will be that would just be cool to start building stuff on other plants.
Well according to their official road map, we will see a full fledged research base capable of housing a dozen researchers before 2040, or 2035 if sooner
Another idea stolen from other countries...
Imagine the Roman Empire being around today, in pretty much the same size and shape as it was at its peak, developing a space program and sending rovers and eventually humans to the moon. Them giving their programs names such as Gemini, Apollo and Artemis would invoke the same pride and reverence the Chinese for giving theirs names such as Shenzhou, Chang E, Queqiao and Yutu.
那会威胁美国国家安全😂
Don't you know that the czar of Russia claimed to be the real successor of Rome?😂
The Chinese are doing exciting Luna research and technology.
0:59 these people can work at least 40 more years on this project
They were all born in the 80s and 90s.
None of these graduated from American universities.
They will do better and better
@@captives6479 Yes, because we like to stand up for the weak. If we want to scold YT, we can scold YT. Such people will not graduate from American universities. It's so strange.
it is called repression, when young people are denied to study law and medicine, they were forced to study STEM. oh, wait, my transcript has some issues, studying STEM are actually extremely popular in China.
I love the co operation from nations around the world. I can only hope that space exploration transcends our differences here on earth. I’m looking at you NASA.
NASA isn't the problem. In 2011, the U.S. government passed a bill that prohibits China from participation in our space programs (including the ISS), and also prevents NASA from working with China.
@@johntomasik1555 good point, I’m hoping the lunar missions and samples allow us to kiiinnnddaaa work around it.
@@johntomasik1555 The fact that Americans still has no interest to repeal the Wolf Amendment as of 2024 says a lot about how Americans view the Chinese's space exploration effort, isn't it?
@@kngharv Very possibly. I know it's anecdotal, but most people I ever engage in conversation about China believe that the entire country is evil from its root core. It's typical government propaganda leading the masses. The U.S. is no different, and in many ways worse.
Kinda funny, since many companies and consumers have no issue chasing bottom dollar through China's suppliers.
It is so sad for me as Russian citizen to hear about all of your and Chinese successful missions. Roscosmos does almost nothing in “Moon to Mars” direction. Anyway, glad to hear about other world’s missions and be a part of humanity. Sorry for my English
I think Russia has been focused on recovery after the 1990s...I believe they will soon be very involved partnering with China and other BRICKS+ nations.
Your country still needs time to recover from the collapse of the Soviet Union
@@dj_s5564 Sadly, as for now our country is heading for a new collapse, caused by starting stupid unprovoked war.
@@antonvoloshin9833 Interesting perspective.
@@antonvoloshin9833 The strategic pressure brought by NATO's eastward expansion forces Russia to respond. Just like China's sending troops to NK and the US' encirclement of Cuba.
The weak economy makes Russia lack the means to counterattack, and can only resort to the lowest level of war violence. If Russia still wants to retain its status as a great power, it should not question the necessity of counterattack.
Please note that Putin has tried to ease relations with the West for a long time, but NATO only wants Russia to die, not to accept Russia's surrender.
China's sending troops to NK also brought its already fragile domestic economy to the brink of collapse, but not participating in the war would harm the interests of several generations.
But as an individual, you are free.
Every time I keep whatching many videos and news articles, we are getting closer and closer, I'm excited.
the US: China is threat!
Meanwhile, most concerned question in China when Chang'e 5 returned: can lunar soil be used to grow corps?
Maybe they can use it to grow food faster so they don't end up like Russia in 1980 with empty shelves.
China works on human development but US works on stopping the development.
@@genebohannon8820you dont get it. What he meant really: China doesnt even care about US who thinks China is a threat just because now they have real tech to send rover to mars and collect samples, unlike US's trick to make people believe that they had send a human to the moon (no they didnt, they just made the video of a human land on moon using hollwood's movie making technique)
@@genebohannon8820 or the 100 million in the usa on foodstamps
@@genebohannon8820thats funny, almost all food producing counties have good ties with china, you can even argue the strongest ally of china is american farmers, imagine having food issues
Well done China, keep pushing forward.
@@201lad2 all the way to hell
If only their form of government and societal structure weren't so backwards and authoritarian. Free people would've accomplished these things MUCH faster.
One can't even begin to imagine what could be achieved, if only humans could bring themselves to co operate and share their resources freely. 🤔
Just imagine where the space program could be if all the nations got along.
The damn U.S. Wolfe Amendment.
都和睦相處就不會有太空計畫了
But there's America🤔
@@泽白-g9m even without america china will still have bloody conflicts. fix your relationship with vietnam first
미국은 빼고 ㅎㅎㅎ
China will need two launches for every manned Moon mission. NASA will need 15-20, assuming Starship can eventually perform as advertised (doubtful). It's pretty clear how things are going to go..
Look at those people working for CNSA, how young they are! Majority are in their 20s and 30s.
Good job, no surprises but well-articulated description of China'a Luna effort.
I prefer this voice.
Because this is the original voice of the channel
Is this another AI voice generated voice?
@@oldmech619 no, lol this is an actual person who went on a honeymoon a few weeks ago and left the channel to another person with another voice 😆 whom we grilled in the comments, and then felt sorry for when the original begged us to forgive him and tell us to be nice to him as he was going on a honeymoon. 😂
@@emmanuelmahuni8163 Thanks. I’ll follow-up on that.
@@oldmech619 With those many mispronouncings, no, absolutely not.
Around 2038 the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS), led by the Russians and the Chinese, will be utilized at the lunar south pole. Whether it will be a lunar orbital station and/or a base on the surface of the Moon, or a base made of inflatable modules inside a lunar lava tube, is still an open question.
Westerners really need to learn basic Chinese pronunciations. For example Chang-e: the “a” in Chang is more of an “ah” sound, and the “e” sounds like “uh.” Ch-ah-ng-uh. And before people say Chinese pronunciations are hard, I don’t want to hear about it because the US has Kansas and Arkansas
No they don’t westerners could care less how Chinese talk😮
@@jayscott7152 I learned Mandarin almost 20 years ago, and I'm a westerner. Seemed like a good idea to learn at least one of the other 3 most spoken languages on the planet.
What I want to know is will the Chinese release the determinative information which can be used to find out exactly what kind of cheese the moon is composed of.
Ellos, han facilitado. Su muestras, incluso a la NASA
Data on the Chang-E missions have routinely been released, even on international papers. You just need to read Chinese. English medias won't report them.
Well, you may be surprised they found moon is in fact made from Tofu instead of cheese 😂
Yes. But China will study the moon soil for two years before sharing it with other countries
China was banned from ISS
The "e" in chang'e is pronounced similar to "er" in British English. More precisely, "Cháng é", as they are both the second tone.
I think- I'm not really sure- but I think that the reason the CNSA keeps calling Lunar modules/ missions by the "Chang'e" designation, is that according to folklore/ mythology, Chang'e was the name of some celestial figure or other, who lived in the moon. Thus, the name would make any/ all of the missions immediately understandable to the Chinese people.
It would be the same as if Jesus was supposed to live on the moon, instead of 'in the clouds' and if NASA called all their moon-missions a variety of "Jesus 1, Jesus 2, etc..."
its true ，chang‘e is the godness who lived in moon with her rabbit.
to be more specific, Chang'e was an earthling that ascended to the moon so the Chang'e mission = mission to the moon.
Look up where the name Apollo comes from...
@@passby8070
Sorry to be unkind about this, but if a person needs to 'look up' ANYTHING about Apollo, then they had a crap education! They've got a LOT of work to do, if they ever want to appreciate the rich tapestry of human history.
@@Raz.C western mythology is hardly the center of the world. Greek mythology not even recent.
Artemis: Is it A vanity project just to show to the world US/NASA is doing something comparable to CNSA, rather than for good or serious reasons ?
No.
No. don't get too ahead of yourself. the americans did what you're doing 60 years ago. difficult to land on the far side? you just need a relay satellite, do you know how many US satellites are on the moon as of now? china has a mere 1😂
No, Artemis has been planned and in the works for decades. It's not like we tossed together an SLS rocket over a weekend and threw up a capsule we had lying around (you think government works that fast?). NASA learned a lot from orbit, but they want to learn more about the rest of the star system. This is where the lunar "Gateway" comes in. For reaching anywhere else in the solar system, it would be much easier and more efficient, for a number of reasons, namely not having to fight with Earth's massive gravity or atmosphere, to set up a vehicle at the gateway station and begin from there. All while also allowing easy access to the lunar service.
Artemis has been in the works in some form since the early 00s. It aligns with NASA's goals going forward, which is why we're transitioning to that from the ISS over the next decade. So no, no pissing matches or conspiracies here, just a good agency trying to do the best science they can with the budget they're given.
artemus is way over budget and is a bunch of old shuttle parts glued together .Nasa is an embarrassment these days . Now SpaceX is worth talking about .
@@zhongxina9420 nope we have 3, and you have none
Pakistan mentioned 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I see you were making bad comments about indian space mission.
@@Mahinegi-ui9cx Endia and their tech support google play card redeeming on the moon 🤢
@@_________________404 another jealous paki
@@_________________404 abdool detected opinion rejected
@@_________________404 abdool keep crying 🤣🤣
no matter my thoughts about China politics, this activity demands and has my respect....❤❤
因为你对中国的政治看法本身就是错误的，是媒体灌输给你的。
Wow. That was packed with info. The West had better get its arse in gear. Cheers. 😎
Have you heard of SpaceX? 150 tons to HEO, maaaaate
@@genebohannon8820 No point in having the tools if you don't have the wits. I'm not sure the Chinese have ANY friendly intentions. Yeah, heard of SpaceX . . .
Yep.
even though starship is very impressive, it isn't operational yet, while China's rockets already are...
@@genebohannon8820 I'm a Martian and I've heard that in 2024 my dear friends from Earth are coming to visit me, so where are they now.
I heard from recent news that China confirmed that water can be extracted from the moon soil on some part of the moon which is crucial for the future moon station.
very informative, well prepared video😊
It is d pride of any country if it can successfully send rockets, man / women into space n returns safely.. Of course d a moon landing that is d icing in space travel time being.. ❤❤❤❤Zhongguo ' Jia You' ❤❤❤
Actually, I think it pronounces "Chan-Err".
Exactly, in the ancient legend, Chang'e is a woman living on the moon. Every year on Valentine's Day in China, she meets her husband on Queqiao - a bridge (the name of the relay satellite).
Chang-uh... some northern Chinese could add a bit of an 'r' sound on the second syllable though that's not necessary.
@@deanzaZZR that "r" should never be added to Chang'e
@@jayyang8857 织女和嫦娥不是同一个人，你搞错了！
right
China, US choosing sites to be nearby has advantage. In case of emergency, they might help each other
No,Wolf amendment ban NASA to cooperate with china.
Since Long March-10 has never flown, it would be nice to mention the Starship. That is nearly 10 times the lift capacity of the Long March 10. Starship can carry 250 tons in a non -reusable form, nearly 10 times that of the Long March-10..
There was another video that stated the starship needs to be refueled in earths orbit before it could leave towards the moon. It would take 10 to 15 starship size launches to get the fuel required into orbit. Then there is the problem of restarting the engines to begin the journey to the moon. So there is a lot of parts that need to be solved for starship.
In summary. There is a lot of work to be done to man the moon on both sides.
@@carljohnson45 So HLS can take a lot of equipment and people there.
10-15 refuels seems like a lot, but if Starship can be operated much more cheaply than the F9/FH, then it could become quite routine. Also Spacex would need to do most launches over the horizon on floating platforms, otherwise that's too much noise for the local populations.
I'm beginning to wonder if the focus on reusability and size might be working against Space X and NASA. Look at the progress the Chinese are making with more "traditional" moon landing systems. It won't be much good having a huge, reusable rocket if the Chinese run the moon base and they have all the advantages of that
Starship can carry 250 tons to LOW EARTH ORBIT, and LM10 mentioned here is expected to carry 27 tons to EARTH-LUNAR INJECTION ORBIT. LEO lift capability of LM10 is about 70 tons so you can say that expendable Starship will be 3.5 times more powerful than LM10.
In terms of safety, traditional launch vehicles are more reliable.
A giant step for all mankind.
Isn't it better if the sites are in the same crater? They'll still km away, but close enough to help each other in case of emergency. Am I unbelievably naive?
China's pretty bad at building crewed things, so that's like entering a car with smashed windows after your car breaks down
China hopes that every exploration will yield new discoveries rather than repeat them.
Great video!
Instead of potential contest for "some common sites", how about potential cooperation?
Fatmerica is more interested in committing and supporting war crimes.
That'd be nice but we already failed at having a common space station 😕
Problem is that some countries spend years and decades sleeping while China was investing heavily into their own country and now those other countries are shouting " China is a major risk!!! ". Look I don't agree with everything CCP does but China is not just CCP. The whole country has so many brilliant and talented people!
there's a law called wolf amendment since late 90's prohibiting ANY space activity with any american government fund to have ANY cooperation with china without a waver from the senate. just give you an idea. if you are a NASA employee, a simple call from chinese space agency to your office phone can NOT be answered if you know the call origin, otherwise, you would be subject to criminal prosecution... lol
I hope that space is big enough for all of us hahaha
I hope US government will not close their eyes on that and will begin to spend more money on NASA.
Enough money already spent on NASA, while, more and more is still not enough, delay after delay and so on is the scenarios., just like an ultimately deep trap with no bottom (NASA).
The best thing for NASA's budget is China finally getting its space program up to par.
@@davidgmaloofif you look at what the US fed gov annual budget includes, you think there is money for NASA? lol
@@eggheadegghead Sure! We've got the world's biggest credit card, though China is not far behind.
@@eggheadegghead if push came to shove funding will be available for NASA
I honestly have higher hope for China to achieve the human returning to the moon than NASA.
Spacex has an excellent chance.
@@Three_Random_Words spaceX not proven yet, only on paper
@@jetli740 space x will eclipse all, soon enough
Zero chance
@@Three_Random_Words spacex is excellent with rockets but they have zero other skills required for a landing. Their moon lander is a joke, why bother sending a giant starship as a lander? Elon don't do collaboration and it seems to be all his ideas. Have you seen those spacex conferences, so cringy, everyone either terrified or in total ass kissing mode.
Has anyone tried growing Kudzu in lunar regolith?
China and SpaceX... That is the race!
what if they work as one team???
@@SD-rednex
"Work as a team!" 😄😅😂🤣😆
The Chicoms have their own agenda, and it's not to share. 😬
@@texan-american200 China was banned from the International Space Station. It's not China that doesn't want to share; it's the West.
@@TheJZP It's both. Both are horseshit in their own right
@@texan-american200 Chang’e is collaborating with many western nations as you can see from the video, just not with the US for obvious political factors. That said US has recently requested moon soil samples from China, who agreed to share.
Although there has been significant progress, SpaceX's progress has been even greater.
Re-usable rockets vs all the Chinese recent achievements. Elon's mainly operating launches to LEO, impressive with their first stage usability, although it hardly compares to moon landings, and the Chinese space station.
What we need is for Elon to defect to China
我们不应该将这些东西分享给外国。现在的国际形势，自力更生才是唯一的出路
Don't worry, we don't want it or need it.
@@herbsuperb6034👄canon brings you to nowhere 😂
因该在月球上跑马圈地。
Here's what you need to know.
The far side of the moon HAS NO WATER. When the moon formed, gravity from earth pulled liquid water towards the visible side. The far side got only Steam Venting.
Everything you need to know about China's moon mission....
*Silence*
That's right! That's all you need to know!
So can we build homes using 3 -d printed moonbricks?
Awesome job
Oddly enough they didn’t design their lander to be more than twice as high as the width of their landing legs, like all the western ones that keep tipping over.
The biggest problem with US engineers is trying to do the one size/design fit all, try to save a penny reusing shit that becomes a huge problem later.
chang'e is pronouncing as /chang/ /ə/
Fantastic
6:30 The Que-Qiao satellite constellation: The first moon navigation and communication system. OK, I need a moon-phone to call Earth and find my way to my moon-home.
嫦娥，chang ，not chang i or E
Chang'e
I feel sad that I'll grow older by the time progress happens in space exploration
Feel the same
Same
Yes, it's always slower than predicted. Apollo was the exception - but that was brute force with 5% of the US budget and 400,000 people at it's peak in 1967.
Every generation has its own sorrow and pride.
cheer up！you will always grow older！whether that happens or not😢😂
'Chang E' is pronounced 'Chang Eh' actually. The E here is from Chinese Pinyin of that character.
Chang E(r) technically, like "errr..." but without the "r" sound
Are the Chinese going to be allowed to film in the Nevada desert ?
I'm 100% behind the Chinese moon program. I am still completely at a loss as to how the USA and NASA lost the initiative so completely regarding space.
Los, retrasoso o postergacion. Han sido partr de su pie de aquiles. Rn cambios el programa espacial Chino, esta cumpliendo. Con las fechas fijadas
Well if Spacex with Starship can do it relatively affordably, that will be a huge game changer.
I have no confidence in Boeing or the SLS, it's not sustainable financially speaking. The Apollo program had 400,000 people working on it at the peak of development in 1967. Spacex is doing far more dollar wise with only 13,000.
Don't forget about NASA's JPL - the US has explored the Solar System nearly completely with probes. Far more than all other players combined - when you do the math. At least the EU is getting serious in that department.
Too much focus on a huge reusable rocket
@@thefleecer3673 "About Air is important is a non profit organisation promoting climactic justice and compulsory diversity excluding white scum"
With some punctuation and some thought, that would make more sense.
I'm not quite sure of what you are trying to say on your About page.
@@thefleecer3673 Affordability will be a game changer for humanity, which is something China lacks.
Just to mention, since the lunar environment is quite harsh for astronauts to live, how to achieve workforce productivity is huge challenges, maybe we will need new concept of "Taylorism" on the moon…
For instance,some hot pepper from South America maybe can become “natural stimulates" for astronauts to work longer hours without damage their health, because maybe some peppers can stimulate human brain,and that's why maybe South American workers can be more"energetic"due to the eating habits…On the contrary, Asian peppers don't have that effect(just for change of tastes)~
Anyway,it's worth to dive into the issues,hmm
The Moon race is on. Hope it doesn't impact and reduce the budget for all the other space science projects.
I predicted when starship was announced and the plan to colonize the moon and Mars, that China would soon suddenly step up to meet the challenge. It took a few years, but now it's overly evident China is gunning for the moon, and probably in particular Shackleton crater, which also will be NASA's primary target. Shackleton is absolutely loaded with permanently shaded water ice.
Titan 👌🏻
@TheSpaceRaceYT
Not Chang-E but sound like Chang-Eh.
Chang-e(嫦娥) is wife of a hero 'The Archer' (houyi, 后羿) in Chinese myth. She ate all the elixir of immortality her hasband found in end of west land, when a men who envy the hero wanted to rob the elixir. Eat half of the elixir for immoetal and all for being god, so Chang-e flght above toward tian-gong (天宫, palace in sky) (←also the name for Chinese space station). She very miss her hasband so she stay on the moon, where she live is called guang-han-gong (广寒宫, vast&cold palace) or chan-gong (蟾宫, toad palace) (ancient Chinese think moon is avatar of a toad). There's also a rabbit called yue-tu (月兔, moon raabbit) (←also the name for Chinese moon rover) and a man forever choping the sweet scented osmanthus tree called wu-gang (吴刚) living there accoding to Chinese myth.
Well done China on there space program, the lunar lander samples are being studied by Chinese and French scientists with some early results which are extraordinary more to come, Great video as always
Will these countries be sharing scientific knowledge with all of Earth's scientists? If so, I am so happy there is competition to encourage innovation, and more science is being returned to the world
美国有这个技术不需要别人分享，特朗普说了是偷的美国的技术😂
As an european, beetween China and the US, the best is Europe. We Participate to both programs so we will win anyway 🤣
nah, you do what the US tell you to do, as all vassals do. US blows up Nordstream, an act of war, and you just stand there smiling like an idiot while Germany de-industrializes.
The most(maybe the only) amazing thing of the Cold war era was the Space Race!
Well come back shaun
it's funny that these plans are designed about 70 years ago. just completing plans step by step
The US is so far behind now. Unreal
Let's make a BRICS moon Base!!!
China is doing great
Tell that to all of their wrongly accused political prisoners.
@@herbsuperb6034 "the US is doing great" "tell that to the thousands of homeless and thousands of guantanamo bay prisoners"
@@stevennotthe2997 If you're homeless in America, it's your own fault. All those that are, vast majority of them are the way they are for ONE reason......DRUG ABUSE!!!! Nobody made them get addicted to dope. They can't shake the booze. They can't shake the dope. Therefore they can't make a real life for themselves.
Chandrayaan is an Indian mission not Israel's
Come visit China for a good duration. Your entire assessment will change.
I've been to China six times, totaling about 9 months, for work. I had a great time and totally enjoyed working with my Chinese colleagues. But I was so happy to return to the US every time. I am way to vocal and opinionated for China.
@@davidgmaloofDon't worry, you are not important enough to get the attention of Chinese government 😂😂😂
@@directxxxx71 Perhaps so, but my job of moving 10K Chinese manufacturing jobs to the US in 2018 was sensitive enough that my American employer wanted no "political" issues while I was in China. Mission accomplished. :)
@@directxxxx71 沉浸在西方媒体渲染的中国背景下的人发言是这样的😂因为这种人从来没有去过中国，深信中国没有自由和安全
只要你是正常人，没有杀人或贩毒就很难被警察抓入监狱
如果你来过中国，请告诉我你在中国受到了哪些不合理的约束，如果没有就闭嘴
@@davidgmaloof Congratulations. So you can finally solve Boeing's problem, right?
Way to go Xerox!!!!
The more China does , the more money the US will spend on our space program 🎉
Creating more and more jobs in our country 🎉🎉🎉🚀🚀🚀🚀
And creating more and more debts
so nice that spacex is independently working on stuff ... not constantly begging the government
@@zzx2879 The US never pays any debt 😂
@@websitemartianSpaceX gets a shit ton of money from the US government for its Artemis project.
@@websitemartian SpaceX is being asked by the government…
Blue Origin sues the government to get contracts 😂
Did I hear keep hearing him calling India`s Chandrayaan mission Isreal's mission, like multiple times.
ISRO - Indian Space Research Organisation
Apparently the dark side of the moon has a word engraved into it saying "made in china"
we good as long as one of them dont use the sun to send signal to trisolaris
Don't worry. China will be able to build a permanent Moon base to do year round scientific research there, by earliest 2030.
2030 is just a manned landing on the moon.
Letting only the current world superpowers have access to other planets surely will end well, and not with private property in them that will cause conflict.
Did China ask the bully boy before starting this project, if not then there will be trouble no doubt.
North Korea/DPRK?
@@Three_Random_Words The US. Obviously.
The project name pronunciation is 『嫦娥』not chang E
Its amazing and sad at the same time ... We ar seeing real progress but also stubbornness between nations.
Disappointingly we wont see joint exploration - imagine the things humans could do!
Right now we seem to be burning money with SpaceX and when you get way down in the weeds in 2024 the vaunted US still has a decommissioning ISS, giant rockets that burn up but in end can't lift the kgs needed and other nations out shinning NASA.
But thankfully we do have innovative smaller companies (see Tenacity) doing great things.
Im no expert just a normal Joe looking on at space exploration with awe and the hopes I will see man living on moon in my lifetime.😊
And the CNSA keeps playing Booster Village Bingo.
In what way do you feel SpaceX is wasting money? Not trolling, I'm genuinely interested in your reasoning. Noone is more disappointed in how the US and NASA failed to build on their success, so I'm very happy to see SpaceX injecting some very much needed momentum in the space race.
@@PersonalityMalfunctioni might suggest its the obsession with huge (too big?) Reusable rockets instead of just getting on with setting up a moon base
@@thefleecer3673 Why so pro China?
and what's with all the form letter posting all over the comments?
@@thefleecer3673 Honestly the development of truly reusable launch vehicles is by far SpaceX's most impressive achievement, which is why China is going to do it also (and are making great strides in doing so). It just makes sense. Imagine how expensive airline flights would be if they threw away the entire airplane after every flight. The same is true for spaceflight, but even moreso and with a much higher dollar amount. Just play Kerbal Space Program and do it yourself, developing a fully recoverable reusable launch vehicle is basically a "never run out of money ever again" cheat code.
But also I do think we should be working with China in exploring space. We should all be communists with a beautiful international glorious communist space program. Competition is not the only way, in fact I believe it's the wrong way. Cooperation will always get us farther than competition ever will, because competition requires losers and only has one winner, whereas cooperation is the mutual pursuit of a win for everyone.
The far side will have more rare minerals
"And I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords" 😆 Seriously though, this makes NASA look a little weak when they were able to send men to the moon but can't do something impressive yet reasonably straight-forward like this. Even India sent a probe. Seems China will be the go-to for small space experiments for a number of nations.
What a strange comment. Are you purposely ignoring all of NASA's scientific accomplishments from the last 30 years, and currently doing, or are you really that ignorant?
@@davidgmaloof There are still two astronauts trapped in space. Why do you fantasize about this? Are you learning from Korea?
@@zhantangbai7295They are not trapped in space. There is multiple other vehicles docked to the ISS that could return them home.
@@thedausthed There are only three ships that can dock with the ISS. Guess it's Russia, or SpaceX $350 million? If there's a space available on one ship, why not come back? Do you think Boeing has a choice? The food is almost gone.
China believes in multi-polarity and win-win cooperation. Unlike the US, they know the futility of hegemony, but US too young as a country to know any better.
Awesome
Too bad our budget is in the unnecessary military instead of advancing technology and making all lives better because of it through space travel. The U.S. is too obsessed with war to realize that going to other planets and moons helps everyone. China will beat us in every way, looks like they actually realize that it's important for our species. Very sad that NASA has to work with such a small budget to get so much done. All of our hope is in Space X now.
Well the current government hates SpaceX. I bet the Chinese government doesn't despise their scientists
China spends about $400B USD adjusted for PPP on its military as well. Imagine what China could accomplish if they didn't support the world's largest military! Interesting for such a humanitarian, you didn't bring any of this up.😏
Lunar warfare 🤔
@@davidgmaloof US - 320 million people; military expenditure: 905 billion
China: 1.2 billion people, military expenditure: 407 billion
US spends 10x what China spends per person. Nobody knows why the US is so warmongering and has 200 military basis around the globe while also have an arsenal of 5k nukes.
Tbh the nukes and military in the US would be more than enough to defend from any threat
@@benjaminmeusburger4254 I get what you are saying, but calculating military expenditure per capita only makes sense if you plan to turn your military on your own people. There is no way China would ever do that...oh wait... :(
9:07 Endless audio glitches everywhere, so trendy. Please people, make bug announcements when using such buggy software, or it will just get worse.
The United States likes to attribute its internal contradictions to one country. In particular racial discrimination. Black people are not treated equally. The problem is social contribution. The United States does not recognize class issues. I admit, black people are not good at some things. This makes them miserable in the United States, and they have no money to live. When a person has no money to live, it is easy to commit crimes. The United States government is not responsible. In China, the homeless man is trained by the government to find him a job. The poor will be subsidized. There will be fewer vagrants, the crime rate will be reduced, and society will be stable. As a Chinese, I am puzzled by one thing. Isn't it the most basic way for the government to redeem the poor? At least in China. However, it seems that the United States is unwilling to do things without interests. The United States will only weaken slowly, not become great again.
The Rich are plan B when all else fails.
It's pronounced Chang ER, not EE.
China is way ahead in remote control and communication technology. The robotic automatic mission of moon orbit docking and moon samples retrieval is out of this world!
Let the west keep silence of jealousy 😂😂😂
and yet the US with JPL has explored the Solar System almost entirely, far more than all others combined.
You think China is ahead in space robotics? You are so ignorant - bless your heart!
The West have done sample return from a frikkin' asteroid. Having said that, I'd rather there was a little more trust and co-operation and less empiric posturing and tribalism.
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