I dont like him. I feel like he has an ulterior motive of some kind. Like the things he says here isn't a reflection of his original, main, self, but an ulternative made in order to make certain bros smash the like button. Super manipulative, switching to catering to the masses like this.
I think what most people don't understand about the phrase "luck is a skill" is that the people who say it don't mean literal random number generation is a skill, after all, how can something out of both players' control be a skill? What most people actually mean when they say the phrase is luck management is a skill. If you're able to make the most out of good luck and work your way around bad luck to where it doesn't screw you over as much, THAT is a skill.
Also if you try to get lucky more often than your opponent you are more likely to get the lucky outcome. Like crits in Pokémon, if you just keep attacking while your opponent is defending it is more likely you will get a crit over your opponent.
Yea, but it's also supposed to piss people off when you either do get great luck, got a moment of luck that defines a game or sarcastically saying it if someone is trying to call out a deserved win
1:15 Hero’s heal is not limited to twice per match. It is twice per stock, with each stock Hero takes adding one more potential heal to his current stock.
@@turndownforULT biggest thing is that menu can never roll any of the same spells 2x in a row, so for example if a hero player like paul rolls a menu with 4 spells and reads the full menu and closes it again, the hero can play neutral for a while and will know that the spells he had before have no chance of showing up. if youre aware of the rules of how menu works it becomes a lot more consistent when it comes to finding certain spells and a lot less “luck based” in the traditional smash way. overall amazing video though, i really really enjoyed watching and am a huge fan of your work 🙏
Cool video. I think it would also be interesting to explore the relationship between conditioning, reading and luck. We all know that Smash is about covering options from the opponent but I feel like we never talk about the impossibility to play "perfectly", meaning there is always a remainder of luck.
All the mentioning of special moves makes me remember that Lucas has no moves that he learns in mother 3 despite having 2 move that’s would make sense (pk love final smash, pk counter, down B reflecter/counter) this isn’t really from a competitive standpoint but more from a why does Lucas have exclusively Kumatoras psi moves
Another facet of the Hero verse Icies matchup is that Hero gets Double MP when his attacks hit both climbers, making resource management against them almost non existent.
In a fight, I suspect grabbing anything to throw in their eyes is pretty much the closest to RNG. It could be dust, dirt, rocks, a brick? Human Down B is throw random object on the ground.
BMP's come up has been inspirational, but personally I'd still give the title of best Hero to Aka; he's made top 24 at his last 7 majors! just in 2024 he's beaten Apollokage, Kome, Bassmage and Rarukun. BMP has definitely been making a case for himself though
Video suggestion: what makes some of the top players so “special,” in the sense of, what are their unique traits or skills that they excel at more than other pros? You can find videos / articles on this for Melee players but I’d love to see one about Ultimate players
I think you should! Ultimate is very fun once you’re able to get into it! The possibilities are quite literally endless! Some games *cough cough* Melee *cough cough* may be more fast-paced, but Ultimate feels more strategy-based and if you’re the kind of person who leans into that stuff, I’d say go for it!
@@Valentinesdayghost This is what I find interesting about ultimate, but ngl the massive roster feels a bit overwhelming. I feel like I have to learn so much. In Melee I have fun and I like the fast paced action, but I don't play meta chars, so the game can be frustrating and feels completely unfair/unbalanced. I like the fact that Ultimate seems more balanced! I might get it soon.
@@Jowannabe Yeah, the massive roster can be extremely overwhelming, especially when throwing in extra factors such as the Miis being able to change their moveset. It is the most balanced game in the series, however, so matchups matter less than you may think. It’s not like Melee where Bowser can’t win against Fox almost at all, and a Ganon has plenty of a chance against a Steve, per sé. Yes, there are extremely disadvantageous matchups but none are quite unwinnable.
Simple answer, the best players are the ones who are the most opportunistic when they get lucky. Furthermore, good habits in competitive games and sports generally produce opportunities to be lucky. Just look at Hockey and you will see that on display. Many bounces and goals are complete luck, but the players had to keep throwing pucks at the net and managing to win battles along the boards to make those goals possible.
1:15 Heal is twice per stock, not per match. Hero also gets his two charges back if he KO's the opponent. As such, he can theoretically heal up to 10 times in a single match if he uses up his heals ASAP (2 initial + 4 from getting KO'd twice + 4 from KOing the opponent twice). Great video otherwise! It was very informative!
I’m focusing my main channel more on longform documentary this year and I wanted to make sure everything else has its own lane. Unfortunately I think keeping everything on my main channel in 2023 hurt some of my bigger projects, and I want to make sure things are more cleanly divided so my audience doesn’t get confused or disappointed!
Very few ever move over to alt channels if you don’t want to lose your audience you have to keep ultimate on the main channel, I probably won’t come over to check up on what you upload here
@@turndownforULTyeah, well I’m sorry for being overly negative it’s just that i’ve seen similiar things happen to other channels like atlas pro creating an alt (astro pro) for his space videos, I haven’t seen it work out
Yeah I mean again the big motivation for this is to create clear lanes for each of the channels - putting everything on main actively hurt me last year
Yea, hero may be pretty bad but man he is one of the most unfun characters to actually play against because you have zero idea how a person will play and what they'll do with the random bs they throw out. He is a terrible execution of an already terrible idea for a fighting game and he really should've just had a normal down b
This was written by JAKAL???????
Damn, that's a multi-talent right there :O
At first you think it’s just ModePaul then homie goes beast
Everybody asks what mode Paul is in but nobody asks how Paul is so beastmode
She beast on my mode til I Paul
8:45 lol, that clip
who is this guy he sounds kinda familiar
My name Jeff
I think he did some voiceovers on pgstats when Panda was a thing, maybe thats why he sounds familiar
I dont like him. I feel like he has an ulterior motive of some kind. Like the things he says here isn't a reflection of his original, main, self, but an ulternative made in order to make certain bros smash the like button. Super manipulative, switching to catering to the masses like this.
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@@zb3397you need therapy
I’ve loved your ult videos on the main channel, glad to see them separate in this way. Smart move! Hope it works out 💛
Appreciate that! I’m super excited!
Heal is twice per stock, not match
He says that in the vid
I think what most people don't understand about the phrase "luck is a skill" is that the people who say it don't mean literal random number generation is a skill, after all, how can something out of both players' control be a skill? What most people actually mean when they say the phrase is luck management is a skill. If you're able to make the most out of good luck and work your way around bad luck to where it doesn't screw you over as much, THAT is a skill.
Also if you try to get lucky more often than your opponent you are more likely to get the lucky outcome. Like crits in Pokémon, if you just keep attacking while your opponent is defending it is more likely you will get a crit over your opponent.
Yea, but it's also supposed to piss people off when you either do get great luck, got a moment of luck that defines a game or sarcastically saying it if someone is trying to call out a deserved win
1:15 Hero’s heal is not limited to twice per match. It is twice per stock, with each stock Hero takes adding one more potential heal to his current stock.
GOOD VIDEO
TRUE
GOOD CHANNEL
Jakal wrote this? Jude “Jakal” Harris? That’s sick
i really wish they touched on hero’s RNG manipulation and the way menu works
We can do that in another video!
@@turndownforULT biggest thing is that menu can never roll any of the same spells 2x in a row, so for example if a hero player like paul rolls a menu with 4 spells and reads the full menu and closes it again, the hero can play neutral for a while and will know that the spells he had before have no chance of showing up. if youre aware of the rules of how menu works it becomes a lot more consistent when it comes to finding certain spells and a lot less “luck based” in the traditional smash way. overall amazing video though, i really really enjoyed watching and am a huge fan of your work 🙏
@@spoon1078woah, didn’t know this… def gonna take note of this more often 😮
@@spoon1078 oh hey spoon didn't expect you to be here lol
@@dannyboi1679 there's also hdr hero and they changed alot for him in the mod
Cool video. I think it would also be interesting to explore the relationship between conditioning, reading and luck. We all know that Smash is about covering options from the opponent but I feel like we never talk about the impossibility to play "perfectly", meaning there is always a remainder of luck.
Didn’t even notice this was a new channel. Looking forward to more ult stuff, also, every time I see Hero “Hero Niceee” echoes in my head lmao.
All the mentioning of special moves makes me remember that Lucas has no moves that he learns in mother 3 despite having 2 move that’s would make sense (pk love final smash, pk counter, down B reflecter/counter) this isn’t really from a competitive standpoint but more from a why does Lucas have exclusively Kumatoras psi moves
My favorite Hero move is to Kamikaze on my last stock. I play him a lot and for some reason the intrusive thoughts always win...
Another facet of the Hero verse Icies matchup is that Hero gets Double MP when his attacks hit both climbers, making resource management against them almost non existent.
holy shit that Hatchet Man tho?
more like *ClutchModePaul*
14:56
In a fight, I suspect grabbing anything to throw in their eyes is pretty much the closest to RNG. It could be dust, dirt, rocks, a brick?
Human Down B is throw random object on the ground.
BMP's come up has been inspirational, but personally I'd still give the title of best Hero to Aka; he's made top 24 at his last 7 majors!
just in 2024 he's beaten Apollokage, Kome, Bassmage and Rarukun.
BMP has definitely been making a case for himself though
Hero is the character for people who pray to RNGesus daily
love your videos, walt!! commenting for the algorithm!!
I appreciate that!
The comback is always greater than the setback is a grand saying.
Video suggestion: what makes some of the top players so “special,” in the sense of, what are their unique traits or skills that they excel at more than other pros? You can find videos / articles on this for Melee players but I’d love to see one about Ultimate players
nice!
THE GIMZ
heal is twice a stock not twice a match
I just realized this is a new channel, I am a melee player and I swear this video made me want to buy Ultimate. Your videos are always so good!
As someone who picked up melee just a bit ago, Ultimate isn't nearly as fun--and I don't think this game will survive as long, either.
I think you should! Ultimate is very fun once you’re able to get into it! The possibilities are quite literally endless! Some games *cough cough* Melee *cough cough* may be more fast-paced, but Ultimate feels more strategy-based and if you’re the kind of person who leans into that stuff, I’d say go for it!
@@Valentinesdayghost This is what I find interesting about ultimate, but ngl the massive roster feels a bit overwhelming. I feel like I have to learn so much. In Melee I have fun and I like the fast paced action, but I don't play meta chars, so the game can be frustrating and feels completely unfair/unbalanced. I like the fact that Ultimate seems more balanced! I might get it soon.
@@Jowannabe Yeah, the massive roster can be extremely overwhelming, especially when throwing in extra factors such as the Miis being able to change their moveset. It is the most balanced game in the series, however, so matchups matter less than you may think. It’s not like Melee where Bowser can’t win against Fox almost at all, and a Ganon has plenty of a chance against a Steve, per sé. Yes, there are extremely disadvantageous matchups but none are quite unwinnable.
Luigi is always forgotten 😔
Wait until Super Smash Bros. What gets announced 😮
Holy shit
Subscribed in advance
SSBW
More Ult videos woo
Simple answer, the best players are the ones who are the most opportunistic when they get lucky. Furthermore, good habits in competitive games and sports generally produce opportunities to be lucky. Just look at Hockey and you will see that on display. Many bounces and goals are complete luck, but the players had to keep throwing pucks at the net and managing to win battles along the boards to make those goals possible.
great video, hope the switch to Ult on a different channel works out!
1:15 Heal is twice per stock, not per match. Hero also gets his two charges back if he KO's the opponent. As such, he can theoretically heal up to 10 times in a single match if he uses up his heals ASAP (2 initial + 4 from getting KO'd twice + 4 from KOing the opponent twice).
Great video otherwise! It was very informative!
hero ICs is 80:20 btw
Short answer no with an if, Long answer no with a but
12:45 I love Hero, but his moves are so goddamn goofy.
excellent video as always
BEAST. MODE. PAUL!
Good movie
Great work as alwasy
Luigi, cause he can win by doing nothing
Danm I wonder who this could be
It me
@@turndownforULTgood answer
Bmp on top ‼️‼️ (very nice video btw)
why new channel?
I’m focusing my main channel more on longform documentary this year and I wanted to make sure everything else has its own lane. Unfortunately I think keeping everything on my main channel in 2023 hurt some of my bigger projects, and I want to make sure things are more cleanly divided so my audience doesn’t get confused or disappointed!
People how want this guy banned, are quite silly I must say.
I believe shky is pronounced sh-key not sh-keye
Rocke is also pronounced like Rocky
No
Accelerate and creative combo dont go together that shits free
Cope
Very few ever move over to alt channels if you don’t want to lose your audience you have to keep ultimate on the main channel, I probably won’t come over to check up on what you upload here
I don’t really think that’s true but that wasn’t the reason for the move!
@@turndownforULTyeah, well I’m sorry for being overly negative it’s just that i’ve seen similiar things happen to other channels like atlas pro creating an alt (astro pro) for his space videos, I haven’t seen it work out
Yeah I mean again the big motivation for this is to create clear lanes for each of the channels - putting everything on main actively hurt me last year
@@turndownforULT yeah? Ok well I hope you’re right, wish you the best
Can u make a piranha plant vido
🔥🔥🔥
Im a villy main hero is almost impossibe to win agiansed.
My turnip randomness aint nothin compared to that rng lol
Good
Nah fuck that omega mistmed the spotdodge that was his game.. dont justify beats mode pauls bad option as a read
dope
ShinyMark got scammed man
I am glad I dont depend too much in my team in OW2 compared to OW1, I hated losing because I lost to a 5 stack with comms.
Yea, hero may be pretty bad but man he is one of the most unfun characters to actually play against because you have zero idea how a person will play and what they'll do with the random bs they throw out. He is a terrible execution of an already terrible idea for a fighting game and he really should've just had a normal down b
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
BMP the type of guy to lose a set and go “No no no no no! This was NOT how it was supposed to go!”