Discovery Leaving Our Galaxy And Entering Galactic Barrier
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.พ. 2022
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"you should thank Heisenberg"... YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT
The Blue will get you through...
Last time a ship entered the barrier, it created superbeings....in TOS. And they went kinda insane.
They are going trough vertical Galactic Barrier. In TOS thaer was only horizontal Galactic Barrier. - STD creators.
That wasn’t the last time. The Enterprise went through again in By Any Other Name and Is There in Truth no Beauty and nothing happened.
@@icecreamdf5259I concur, definitely not the last time.
Some people ask "Why didn't they just use the Spore Drive and jump past the Barrier?". Good question. For the same reason why they don't jump to the Andromeda Galaxy. While theoretically the ship can jump to anywhere in the universe, they need exact coordinates of where to jump to, jumping blind could end up making them jump inside a star or an asteroid. Since the barrier prevents scanning through it trying to jump past is the very definition of jumping blind.
when ever I hear the excuse "they could jump into a planet" I cant help but remember how 99.999999999999999999% of space is well empty. If jumping blind would result in being placed in a random spot, the odds of landing inside a object are almost 0. They need a better excuse, like, the spore jump can only go to where another ship/craft has previously been and run some special scan.
@@andrew5207 If you're jumping, would you prefer the odds of coming out into something nasty to be "almost" zero, or zero?
That would be a perfectly acceptable risk considering you died the first time you were transported anywhere in your Starfleet career, and a clone of you was created…
Nothing in life is 100% safe. Any time you get in your car there is a chance you might die in accident, but we still do it all the time. Consider for a moment how dangerous different jobs are. Space Explorer is probably going to #1 on that list. Having a dangerous job will come with a expectation of a degree of risk.
Just consider how many crew members die in various ways in any Star Trek movie. People are constantly going about their day and then then BAM, the hull is breached and everyone is being sucked into space. Or a warp core goes critical and the entire ship is vaporized. Or you beam down to a planet and get infected with a parasite, or the entire crew is infected with some virus that causes you to de-evolve. The list goes on. Having a .00000000001% failure rate on warp travel would be the least of your day-to-day worries.
Before you say that the transporter doesn’t kill you and clone you, explain to me how they got 2 Riker’s, or why one of the foremost doctors in Starfleet refuses to use the transporter because of this exact reason.
@@FerretJohn
The other reason given in the episode was that the network was centered on the galaxy, and didn't extend beyond the edge of it, in fact, it fell off quite short of it.
They gave a different technobabble explanation. I think the barrier disrupted the mycelial network or something like that.
remember that barrier is a pure negative energy and one starship tried and the crew barely lived. but two died
Like barrier in jamaica 😌
Do you mean in TOS? Remember that the technology has advanced a lot.
Actually in TOS Spock was just yelling about the fact the barrier is just one big nothing signature on the scanners.
There's no f****** way the edge of the Galaxy looks like this this is just bulshit science
Never knew that the barrier would be like this, I thought that you would just swing out and get a view off the galazy...
To get a view of the Galaxy like Luke on the Hospital Ship in Star Wars- you'd have to travel the equivalent of 3.14 the distance of the edge from the core. It took Voyager an estimated 60 years without wormholes and alien tech. It'd take almost 140 years on an updated Discovery to reach that distance and see the whole galaxy.
@@patrickasplund Not that probably was a 'galaxy' in ESB, anyway. No galaxy spins that fast, and it looked too dense.
Well why wouldn't it?
The Earth has a magnetic field surrounding it. Surely the galaxy itself would have the same a "galactic Van Allen Belt", too.
@@patrickasplund No, actually there is no reason you would not find such a veiw from somewhere on the outskirts of a galaxy but still being inside.
@@TheNoiseySpectator you're suggesting the scene isn't referencing their own galaxy when they're staring and talking about it?
Q: let me introduce myself
because they seem to forget that Discovery currently uses 31st century technology (they made improvements, didn't they?).
so... it wouldn't be so far-fetched or anticannon that it could happen, more advanced sensors... better shields...
is that it, or the writers should be put through the arms hahaha
Unpopular opinion: For some reason, Star Gate Universe comes to mind. Why does it feel the way that show approached Galaxy travel was better executed than this?
im with you lunar...poor job by the powers that be for sure
The only real thing holding them back was the barrier. And the.. massige distance between galaxies. In SG they had the gate network, with very limited technologies commonly available, having to manage public appearences, aswell as the actual NEED to go too and from and keep others from crossing galaxies. Discovery just ripped apart its boundary by introducing bubbles.
Also sategate ships moved much faster than then do here
Star gate had the P90
Ships in stargate don’t interact with realspace while in hyperspace. There could still be a barrier for all we know, but they can just fly clean through it
That's got to be creepy when the president comes to you that way
Ask anyone in the same room as trump and classified docs.
Wow, that galactic barrier is kind of ... two dimensional. It looks like they could have flown over or under it. Hope there were no latent telepaths on board.
if this was cannon to the novels, everyone on that ship should now become beings that might as well be the Q...........
I loved this so much. DISCO S4 is incredible
I have the feeling that since tje harry potter movies, nist of the screentime of movies consists of people stareing. Stareing frightend or stareing overly proud... 😂
cooooooooooooooooooool
Shouldn't a few of them gain ESP like Gary Mitchell did way back in TOS first episode?
I love star trek, but the galactic barrier is a ridiculous concept
Are you sure?
The Earth's rotation generates a magnetic field called the "Van Allen Belt".
Our Galaxy also spins, and there is a lot of magnetic force inside it, too.
Why wouldn't the Milkyway generate a "Galactic Van Allen Belt"?
I wished that the TNG starships were able of leaving the galactic barrier already.
Only if the ships are fast enough… the Enterprise D not only left the galaxy but travelled to the edge of the universe. Granted the ship’s software was being modified by a super-being, the Traveler was still able to make use of the D’s technology to do so.
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star gate ships pathetic
Are you sure you wish that? Lokk over your Star Trek history.
The first Enterprise encountered one group of Kelvins who had broken through the barrier to invade and conquer our galaxy. Their Ship was still damaged beyond repair, but just managed to get through.
I wonder how many Kelvin colonizing vessels have been kept out by the barrier?
So what’s the real or imagined reason that there would be a barrier at the edge of our galaxy? Is it the same reason that a ball on a line moves faster than the center in order to keep up with person who is spinning the ball on the line?
Blame Q.
Ask TOS, the barrier is from there.
And they couldn’t have just gone around?
Why is the edge of the galaxy a big smoky Videogame wall? 😂😂😂
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Still confused, how you steer your ship by just touching or typing on screen, like every sci fi with star trek ish vibe always typing screen to steer
Enterprise D:Noobs..
This was stupid. Kirk just went the hell through with an old ass ship.
This is supposed to take place at least 10 years (i think, I really don't care for discovery) before Where No Man Has Gone Before.
Also why the hell are the uniforms not the ones they used in cage then if thats supposed to had happened 7 years before The Menagerie. The turtlenecks were awesome.
The Discovery traveled 900 years into the future at the start of season 3, and was refitted with new tech by the future Federation, so when this episode took place it was a much more advanced ship than Kirk's Enterprise. But they still whined about how hard it was. Kirk actually went through that barrier at least twice and survived, no stupid high-fiving and congratulating each other for doing their damn jobs.
@@AsianFlew Didn't he go back to the barrier in a different episode with those aliens from Andromeda Galaxy too later on in Star trek
@@AsianFlew Also why would the flaming future federation give a past ship future tech like that
@@veganmax8015In "Where No Man Has Gone Before" they went into the barrier but did not leave the Galaxy. "By Any Other Name" is the one where the Kelvans highjacked the Enterprise and crossed the barrier on their way to Andromeda. In "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" one of the designers of the Enterprise looked at a Medusan, goes insane, and flys the Enterprise out of the Galaxy. So by my reckoning, Kirk and crew went through the barrier FIVE times. Discovery is stupid.
There’s literally no such thing, you won’t even notice you’ve left the galaxy in reality
But Discovery is following Star Trek rules that the Milky Way is surrounded by a barrier.
I understand the issues older fans of ST have with these series. I too get tired of the excess of emotional display, crying, etc, or the fact that a few of characters do basically all.
However, the series is not nearly that bad as people accuse it of being. In fact these season was quite good.
@@thehantavirus Being a fan of Doctor Who you learn to not care that much about continuity.
And I didn't dismiss anyone's oppinion. They are entitled to them. I just said, IN MY OPINION the series is not that bad.
That's what our comments are. Opinions
A few of the main characters doing a lot of the stuff has been a common theme in Star Trek forever
@@thehantavirus you know if mad dudebros would spend as much energy on something productive as they do trolling under every discovery video, then they might actually accomplish anything outside of a high blood pressure. You don't like it. Some people do. Great. Stop gatekeeping.
The more they got back to it being an ensemble show, the better it was. Star Trek should always be about the crew.
"I think its cool" - well..ive seen recently STNG, Voyager and DS9 and this is travesty. They dont bahave live in military/federation. I wish i like this series.. but it is still the same so.. no
Why don't they just go around it? Did I miss something?
It's all around the galaxy, like an egg is around the yolk.
@@warptekwhy is there a big smoky wall around the galaxy 😂😂
Don't people who enter the barrier get glowey eyes and obtain god like powers?
A few but mostly not
When you remember that Discovery doesn't follow canon it'll be better for you lol
Hit part of the Canon stop lieing
@dougs7367: Only people with high Esper ratings. Extra Sensory Perseption😉
@@SMITT359Further, I am sure what frequency bands compose the field in any one location shifts around and how intense they are varies also.
Just finished TNG again. Watching these clips from discovery is like watching a circus, a bad one.
They should've just went perpendicular to the galactic plane, imho.
That would be using common sense.
well, look the bridge is fully commanded by females how would you instruct them on a starship if they can’t drive a car most of the time.
The barrier surrounds the galaxy in every direction.
@@Armann_ Wow, wasn't expecting bigoted trash like you in this comment section.
Take a doughnut and place it down on a plate, cut it horizontally ok inside the doughnut is pretty much all of the milky way, the outer skin is the galactic barrier with negative energy covering half the barrier and positive energy on the inner side (which apparently is holding a malevolent entity imprisoned by The Q), the safest way through the barrier is at extremely high speeds like warp 32
The fear of warping into a star is a scientific oxymoron .
Considering literally only possible remote chance of faster than light requires the energy of star life’s lol
Dude… where did all the men go?
You are pathetic.
We got deleted. Because.
Its really not an amazing thing. The D went to what M33, and beyond.
In 2 dimensional space, sure, that might be what the edge of the galaxy looks like, but, we live in a 3 dimensional reality lol. Why didn't they just go up or down to get around it? rofl . Seriously, you can go up or down also.
It is mentioned in TOS that the barrier surrounds all possible ways to get out of the galaxy.
You really don't know anything about Star Trek and its history, do you?
@@Silverizael "whoosh" that was the sound of the point going right over your head.
@@rclines001 Please do explain the point then, particularly in relation to what has already been known from TOS for decades.
@@Silverizael Na, I'm good. I'll let you think about it.
PC gone mad.
Why don’t they just fly over it??
It surrounds the entirety of the galaxy. This was literally discussed in The Original Series.
So the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light yet they are cruising through it to the other side.
That was never a thing in Star Trek, and this is inside the galaxy only, even with real life expansion you can travel to the local gaalxy cluster.
That's the idea of Warp speed, to travel faster than light, otherwise it would take 4 and half years to get to our nearest star and each episode is only 43 minutes long.
Battlestar Galactica had no problems in intergalaxy travel….lol
It's a different story
BSG was entirely in the Milky Way
@@jamestopoleski9255 Although who knows, in the original 1978 series.
Where terms were used a bit more loosely (like galaxy, system, constellation, etc)
@@chrissonofpear1384 good point.
The next time you watch the original BSG, Try to figure out if a "centon" is more like a minute, or an hour, or a fraction of a day.
welll huh no? at the end adama says how in the hell humans evolved naturally millions of light years away from the colonies...and you know milky way its waaaay smaller than that@@00dfm00
Who writes these storylines and scripts? This is like a daytime talkshow version of a political drama with CGI … 😂
It’s television for superannuated children. 🤣
hard to watch. enough said
This new version of ST is inferior to all previous versions. I just can't watch it. It is insufferable.
When the visible spectrum went all gray: "Am I still black?"
LOL!
I have no feeling whatsoever for these characters. I don't care if they live or die. This is the main problem with this series the other of course is the issue of a consistent (or lack of) canon.
They don’t have episodes of them playing poker together, or chilling in a bar throwing darts, or in the mess hall have philosophical conversations while playing 3D chess. They’re just there. The least known bridge crew in Star Trek history. I can name the barber (Mot) on the Enterprise D before I can name these guys 😂😂
the acting in this is just tacky
Bunch of STRONG WOMEN running the bridge.
The dialogue in this show is cringe.
The new woke trek universe. 😂 Lorca 💪
guess all the real men got sick and stayed home
Indeed. All you have is an Asian dude and an alien. Go go wamen.
@@Vilfy so asians are not men? ok.
@@IchigoKurosakicool not in this wokish show. He's in STD only as a minority not as a men.
@@-M0LE only if the women were 20 feet tall. Lol, Asian size can be like anyone else. Yao Ming was one of the biggest guys in the NBA, pretty sure he was bigger than most Caucasians…lol.
@@Vilfy it's barely wokism, it's doing pretty good financially, it it was woke it would have gone broke. He's a man nonethless, dont be so dense pal.
Worst version of Star Trek,this show is trash
Woke Trek
Is it just me or has the average male gone the way of the dodo bird in this show. The Bridge crew is all woman, and a few aliens to spice up diversity. The only white male is gay. Did they kill them all?
I never knew it was possible to be sexist, racist, and homophobic all at the same time
@@paopao. Ahh, standard response. Anybody that questions anything that does not meet your particular view MUST be sexist, racist and homophobic.
@@andreashauschild7757 that's exactly right.
Pretty sad you’re so fragile that you’re threatened by more women running things in TV shows 🙄
What a trash show
Amm... Am I only one that count at lest dozen feminist things in that clip? Not mentioning obvious furtilasing...