Starship Troopers Lore! The Arachnid Warrior Bug! Tool of Galactic Conquest

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  • @ksiaa814
    @ksiaa814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I absolutely love the fact that you've pointed out that they are not designed to really kill humans but something much more lethal "designed to kill something hell of a lot more tougher than a measly human" because they are practically over-engineered and higher up the food chain biologically wise.

    • @ksiaa814
      @ksiaa814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @KarSoban the drones are the result of that. example the oversized head and the special organ designed for balance seems a little too "planned". So yeah I could see what you're saying as a complete possibility.

    • @bigdiccmarty9335
      @bigdiccmarty9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @KarSoban like the zerg but less evil, more utilitarian

    • @KG-jm1zl
      @KG-jm1zl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigdiccmarty9335 read the book, they are quite evil in fact

    • @bigdiccmarty9335
      @bigdiccmarty9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KG-jm1zl I've read the book
      and I said 'less evil', not 'not evil'

    • @omegawilliam95s36
      @omegawilliam95s36 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Headcanon: They fought the Xenomorphs at some point.

  • @mrbloodmuffins
    @mrbloodmuffins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    "If we killed a thousand bug warriors for one cap trooper, it was a victory for the bugs."
    -Juan Rico

    • @danielfield650
      @danielfield650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Sounds like the ChiComms, tbh

    • @angry_zergling
      @angry_zergling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@danielfield650 Wonder if it was an allegory for communism. Russia and China are infamous for unskilled, untrained, peasant swarm tactics overseen by commanders who see it as a victory to kill one enemy for every hundred plus of their own troops lost.
      (EDIT: Not sure if Russia is still like that today as I believe their front-line units field modern equipment...at least initially. Modernized T-90+, 5.45 automatics, Gen 4+ fighters. With China, though, I think any large-scale conflict would involve T-34s for armored regiments and SKS for their troops. 2% modern stuff, 98% Korean war era equipment. And after one large-scale battle they're back to turbo-props for bombers and transports.)

    • @danielfield650
      @danielfield650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@angry_zergling The Russians I think realize that they can't fight that kind of war without a totalitarian state driving the population to that level of slaughter. The Chinese would do much the same, unfortunately for them we designed our entire military to counter that type of warfare

    • @angry_zergling
      @angry_zergling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@danielfield650 ​ Chunese are the more serious threat to the west IMO. Although RU has as many noooks as NATO combined, CH has as many active+reserve duty as the USA has population. 300+ million troops called up in 3 months while USA has, what...5 million active 30 million reserve? In Whurl Wur 3 USA has 35 mill and China have 300+ million. Even considering M16A4 vs SKS and T34 vs Abrams...that's still a bit imba in China's favor. O_O
      (PS: Incorrect spellings are intentional as everything else resulted in my posts being shuderbunned for some reason.

    • @erzhaider
      @erzhaider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@angry_zergling big bruh moment for thinking they're still using T-34s. You do know that tank type is from the 2nd WW? Their military is just a bit less modern than the usa's military. Also it's not like the USA could keep control of the whole of China, they don't have enough troops for that

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    The Roughnecks series had some great designs for the bugs.

    • @jesusisherelookbusy
      @jesusisherelookbusy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I’m still salty that they cancelled the show with 2 episodes to go. 😭

    • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
      @Warrior-Of-Virtue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jesusisherelookbusy Amen. But I heard that all of the voice work for the last two episodes was done. They just need to be animated. So we might get them one day. God willing.

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +@@Warrior-Of-Virtue+ Oh how I wish!

    • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
      @Warrior-Of-Virtue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Better yet, just add the dialogue to the public domain and let the fan animators do the rest.

    • @danielfield650
      @danielfield650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The only show remake I would watch the living fuck out of. I loved that show

  • @theyoda55
    @theyoda55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Guy at GW planning on making the Tyranids: "Bugs with laser beams? That sounds like a good idea! Let me just cop- I mean, take 'inspiration' from these guys."

    • @shawnm1902
      @shawnm1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      GW#2 yeah, but these xenomorph thingies are really popular too. Perhaps we ste.. ahem borrow the concept and put them at the forefront of this new faction!

    • @MrLolguy93
      @MrLolguy93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ironically, they coped from Starcraft and Aliens XD

    • @shawnm1902
      @shawnm1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@MrLolguy93 space hulk came out in 1989. Starcraft in 1998.
      Unless you a proposing that there's Matt Wardian warp fuckery abound, bending time, that doesn't shake out

    • @MrLolguy93
      @MrLolguy93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shawnm1902 I mean that at the start they copied the Aliens with the Ymgarl Genestealers. They fleshed the Hivemind and various other Tyranid stuff after Starcraft

    • @shawnm1902
      @shawnm1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@MrLolguy93 idk man, advanced space crusade was 1990 (tyranid warrior introduced). Hell even the 2nd edition tyranid codex is 1995. Which cleaned up the termagaunt a little.

  • @ltramon7463
    @ltramon7463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    In the books there's a line of something to the effect of:
    "If the bugs lose 10,000 warriors for one Mobile Infantry, then that's a net win for them becuase they would have hatched another 10,000 and then some by the end of the week."

    • @StevieB8363
      @StevieB8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It's worth pointing out that in the book, the MI were highly-trained elite troops wearing power armour. It took months to train them and only about 10% of recruits made the cut. They weren't the cannon-fodder that you see in the movies.
      The bugs on the the hand, as you say, could hatch thousands of battle-ready soldiers easily.

    • @ltramon7463
      @ltramon7463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@StevieB8363 Still applies in the movies too. Humans take about 20 years to mature and a few months of training. And the bugs can hatch thousands of warriors

    • @montolonzo3836
      @montolonzo3836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      can the bugs reclaim the dead for recycling?

    • @StevieB8363
      @StevieB8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ltramon7463 True, but in the movies the MI were literally "meat for the grinder" - which wasn't the case in the book.

  • @logangrimnar3800
    @logangrimnar3800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The novel version was a mad man's idea of a spider, while the movie was a giant pair of scissors with knives for legs.

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    “The only good bug is a dead bug!” Recently homeless man after the attack of Buenas Aires.

    • @Far-Right_Celt
      @Far-Right_Celt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same for politicans irl lol

    • @NetMoverSitan
      @NetMoverSitan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Far-Right_Celt In the event of nuclear apocalypse, only cockroaches and politicians will survive...poor cockroaches.

    • @allantidgwell5624
      @allantidgwell5624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You forgot that it also killed his dog. He should go John Wick

  • @tanall5959
    @tanall5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    **Desire to know more intensifies!**

    • @tornesaurio
      @tornesaurio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Damn, you beat me to it.

    • @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384
      @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Now your a face I haven’t seen in a long time.

    • @Tere225
      @Tere225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm doing my part

    • @tanall5959
      @tanall5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Coco Piny And?

    • @helmetfire5973
      @helmetfire5973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'M DOING MY PART!

  • @skullthrone8882
    @skullthrone8882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    MI Senior NCO
    "Sir we have an outpost with open sight lines, fixed walls, heavy weapons emplacements, air support, and combat hardened troops."
    Colonel Fuckface
    "Excellent, this should be an easy assignment"
    Arachnids *eyes glowing*
    "Allow us to introduce all million of ourselves"

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Not even a moat filled with Lava would work to protect an outpost ... because they would eventually get over it after jumping into it by the thousands and thus cooling it ever so slightly.

    • @Xenomorphine
      @Xenomorphine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yet, somehow, they don't bother to remember they had air support...
      And forgot how to develop artillery.
      And didn't bring any AP ammunition or missiles worth a damn.
      They were essentially kitted out like a police force, not a military.

    • @arnoldshmitt4969
      @arnoldshmitt4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Xenomorphine we we just saw mobile infantry in action in movies , those infantry brigades travel light with some air support elements attached to them as per their doctrine since they will be asked to do mission on some god forsaken rock at a given point in time and artillery requires logistics among many things besides bugs move underground and who is to say your artillery battery wont get swallowed up from underground by the bugs without even firing a single shell

    • @Xenomorphine
      @Xenomorphine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@arnoldshmitt4969 The ones in the film were generally moving around above ground. And if vehicles (which would be moving around, themselves, not static) are going to be in danger of getting swallowed up from below, then infantry definitely would be.
      And where was that nearby close air support? Probably several instances of it to call upon, especially with whatever their equivalent of helicopter gunships would be.
      Where was their recon? Fire support in the shape of mobile armour? Vehicular and air transportation?
      Infantry require logistics, too. Artillery, these days, takes only a minute to set up, if that: th-cam.com/video/BNso6yE2Bxk/w-d-xo.html

    • @arnoldshmitt4969
      @arnoldshmitt4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Xenomorphine those infantry battalions were very versatile , the real spaceship trooper had power armour on every soldier using variety of heavy ordinance from gatling guns to mini nukes launchers to break the wave assaults of bugs , also they put more empasize on troopers for more part not on the air support , artillery and orbital bombardment aspects of warfare both in movies and novels , i really liked the new animated movie though really captured futuristic spaceship trooper should be in real life

  • @steveo9284
    @steveo9284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Politicians arguing...
    Arch posted?!
    F-that, Arch is waaaay better.

    • @johntitor1256
      @johntitor1256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If you had to listen to politicians prattle for any period of tinem, you would want them to just stop talking forever.
      If you listen to Arch's lore videos, you would want to learn more.

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      With politicians you are sure to get 99% LIES and MISINFORMATION, with Arch you get FACTS.

    • @DreamVikings
      @DreamVikings 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seldom do the morning news win over a lore vid for me anymore.

  • @cnlbenmc
    @cnlbenmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Warrior Bugs in the eyes of a Space Marine;
    "Look Brothers, what large targets we have been provided with!".

    • @Phenixtri
      @Phenixtri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yea imagine a brain bug "interrogating" a space marine only for it to shit bricks upon realizing how insanity huge and hyper violent the Imperium of Man is .... for it to realize the IoM with the guard alone have more human soldiers than all the arachnid warriors combined ..... oh that would be fun to watch.

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Galactic Empire > Imperium of Man

    • @skarjj1
      @skarjj1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Phenixtri they'd just make MOAR bugs

    • @Phenixtri
      @Phenixtri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skarjj1 without the ability to effectivly counter imperial and astartes naval assets I doubt it would make much of a difference in the long run .....psykers are also a wild card here ...

    • @skarjj1
      @skarjj1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Phenixtri they have the fire and forget weapon i.e the asteroids and for keeping them from getting naval control of the planet they have the Plasma Bugs. But as for actual Ship to Ship combat unless they have the ability to make ships like the Nids they are limited to Plasma Bugs and Asteroids.

  • @Mate397
    @Mate397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    You know I never realized that, but now that raises the question, what was scarier than the bugs to require such evolution?

    • @bigdiccmarty9335
      @bigdiccmarty9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well, if the bugs came out on top? nothing
      i feel it's more how LARGE to require such a massive pair of chompers to achieve victory

    • @WellWisdom.
      @WellWisdom. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who said they came up on top? They might stop engage with those enemies in other quadrants of space.

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@WellWisdom. Just what the Mobile Infatry needs, fighting a war on two fronts...

    • @lornbaker1083
      @lornbaker1083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A little late but they actually are in the novel there called the skinnies. An alien race enslaved by the Bugs to act as a client species. In the CGI roughnecks show, they actually saved the planet Of the skinnys and freed the people. And some of them even sign up with the mobile infantry, Wanting to show their gratitude to humanity and also to finally take the fight back to their hateful oppressors This even was including their leader. Probably the greatest skinny to ever fight alongside a Human. Colonel Tophai! And of course he got assigned to the rough necks

  • @jcwg8314
    @jcwg8314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Whenever I think of Imperial Guard vs Tyranids, I picture Starship Troopers.

    • @loganwhitney8471
      @loganwhitney8471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's pretty much closest thing between them tbh.

    • @skepticalmagos_101
      @skepticalmagos_101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You mean the dipshits from the movie....
      the book/ Animated version had power armor.... By the emperor's golden balls We wish we were them XD

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL, you know in the book the infantery have power armor, with jumpjets 3 nukes and handheld autocannon. They deskribe how they deploy "sholer to sholder" (100m between them) and massacre a waves of warrior, so they have to send out there workers to fight them.

    • @lornbaker1083
      @lornbaker1083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't forget the mounted flame throwers and installed vibral cutting knifes In the wrists and installed into the palms.

  • @kalleojala8919
    @kalleojala8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    To save our mother Earth from any alien attack
    From vicious giant insects who have once again come back
    We'll unleash all our forces
    We won't cut them any slack
    The E.D.F deploys!

    • @TBL-Badash
      @TBL-Badash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      EDF EDF

    • @jhafemeister0
      @jhafemeister0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      EDF! EDF! EDF!

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the moans the Anime Skyrangers make when they are hit in a web. 🕸

    • @shilopnamreg6468
      @shilopnamreg6468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Marinealver thanks for sharing that thought buddy

  • @Aliksander54
    @Aliksander54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Isn't it amazing that the one Sci-Fi universe that had an IMPROVEMENT in design of a key feature of the story was the one Hollywood didnt take seriously. There is a lesson there: keep away Hollywood's attention if you want things done right.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nobody paid much attention to Joker either, and that turned out to be genius.

    • @Aliksander54
      @Aliksander54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Junior Read I would agree except for one thing: there is no reason why they can't be both intelligent AND have dumb drones be fighters. If you remember in the movie, the brain bugs were highly intelligent. They understood concepts of feigning weakness (not revealing their anti-orbital capabilities) and using false intelligence (mind controlling a radio operator to call in for reinforcements to a base so that those reinforcement could be wiped out) and nuclear weapons. The bugs in the movie are not dumb bugs, the FIGHTER DRONES are dumb bugs. This fits perfectly with a society that is meant to represent communists as per Heinlein's intent: a few despotic intelligent leaders sending hordes of the mindless to their death "for the greater good".

    • @Aliksander54
      @Aliksander54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Junior Read Can you explain to me how being able to successfully lob an asteroid across interstellar distances at relatively massive speed toward your enemies home planet, which needs to account for stellar movement, gravitation, vector forces, etc on a massive scale, constitutes 'animal intelligence'?
      And who says the warrior bugs take massive resources? You assume because they are large they must be hard to produce, but that's nonsense. It doesn't even hold true on our own planet let alone on alien worlds where different environmental and biological variations could exist that could make it significantly easier. The same way your ALL CAPS doesn't make your words any smarter, making the warrior bugs larger, fiercer, and more expendable doesn't make the concept of their species non-sensical.

    • @Aliksander54
      @Aliksander54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Junior Read damn, imagine how much money NASA is wasting hiring scientists and buy computers when all they needed was Nemo to get us to Mars!

    • @shanehudson3995
      @shanehudson3995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Let's not forget that Heinlien's Bugs understood the importance of taking prisoners and prisoner exchange.
      Movie bugs just kill.

  • @Astorath_the_Grim
    @Astorath_the_Grim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You need a military intelligence Arch avatar for these videos.

  • @darkinnovator2479
    @darkinnovator2479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Ah, human killing bugs. I get the feeling GW saw this, ordered a dead horse to be brought in and kicked. A few months later, they had the Tyranids.

    • @svagglaorde4387
      @svagglaorde4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well at least GW got the "arachnids using energy weapons" inspiration right for the Tyranids except its a bio-mechanical weapon attachment armed with acidic worm horror projectiles.

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You forgot the "power armored human fighting squads".

    • @darkinnovator2479
      @darkinnovator2479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Muck006 Looks like there were more than one dead horse kicked that day.

    • @darkinnovator2479
      @darkinnovator2479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@svagglaorde4387 They were certainly inspired.

    • @fencserx9423
      @fencserx9423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think GW humbly accepts that it is an amalgamation of seeing various dead horses, snorting a line of crack and yelling “kick it again, but with flair this time”

  • @Drizzt12321
    @Drizzt12321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Do you want to know more? ALL able bodied citizens may do so by following your local friendly lore expert, Arch

  • @VictorianTimeTraveler
    @VictorianTimeTraveler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I remember correctly from the book
    The arachnids have different types within their species like carpenter ants Warriors workers ext..
    Also it's heavily implied that they captured several mobile infantryman to study them. Being held prisoner underground by hundreds of thousands of spiders... now that is Nightmare fuel.

  • @OzymandiasRex
    @OzymandiasRex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Fun Fact: the Megarachnids from the Planet murder in the Horus Heresy series are a nod to these guys in particular. Even some of the description used are the same as in the original novel.

  • @mrsnippysnoopa8300
    @mrsnippysnoopa8300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I mean, the bugs had to be this op, in the books, humanity was pumping out armors like nothing.

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ummm ... not really ... because it takes "ages" to train an infantryman. The amount of gear doesnt really matter if you dont have skilled people trained to use the stuff.

    • @ToppovDejungle
      @ToppovDejungle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Junior Read I bet you are just the absolute life and soul of every party huh.

    • @mrsnippysnoopa8300
      @mrsnippysnoopa8300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Junior Read it wasn't mean spirited. the movie was made this way on purpose. it's pretty much an in universe propaganda flick. i believe it.
      altho, the other movies.... oh, you're free to hate them.

    • @starcoloneldunadansonoft501
      @starcoloneldunadansonoft501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToppovDejungle He could come to one of my parties any day.
      The movie is a shitty parody of the greatest sci-fi novel ever written. Get over it.

    • @ToppovDejungle
      @ToppovDejungle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@starcoloneldunadansonoft501 "Greatest sci-fi novel ever written" Bwahahahaha. Good for you. What a thriller that would be. I bet you think playing Pictionary is a wild riot.

  • @MrBleachedSkull
    @MrBleachedSkull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just imagined a happy gasmask Commissar bug sending his troops in suicidal battle.

  • @asajjy
    @asajjy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Please Keep Covering Starship Troopers
    It's Source Is So Underappreciated

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mainstream is the death knell for franchises ...

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Muck006 True, I would say take a look at Warhammer but GW was never really good with handling source material.
      Well there is also Twilight Imperium, and who wants to play Sardak N'orr?

    • @asajjy
      @asajjy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just Want Naughty Nasty Lore Rants From Big Daddy Arch ' v '

  • @dagdamor1
    @dagdamor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Easiest way GW could push through 40K End Times: Making the Tyranid Gaunts as strong as these madlads.

    • @shawnm1902
      @shawnm1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Their attempt at this was the adorable lictor chan, hormagants, and carnifexes. It didn't exactly turn out that way

    • @KingQwertzlbrmpf
      @KingQwertzlbrmpf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That wouldn't really be in the hiveminds best interest. For the Hivemind it all essentially comes down to a cost-benefit analysis. And for any warrior bug they create they can create something like a hundred gaunts. And the hundred gaunts gain them a net bigger power than the one warrior bug. At least against regular Imperial guard equivalent enemies. Yes, warrior bugs would rip through imperial guard like through paper, but they'd expend much more energy for that then a hundred gaunts would. Also, every single warrior bug killed means a much bigger investment was destroyed. Even a hundred gaunts killed does not equate to a single warior bug killed in terms of lost investment.
      Now against enemies like Space marines, yes, against those the warrior bug is way more efficient in terms of cost-benefit than simple gaunts. A Space maine can easily kill hundreds of gaunts without even breaking a sweat and the gaunts weapons are just not that effective against Space marines. But then again, the only reason the hivemind would even bother to throw gaunts at space marines is to stall for time to get a bigger bioform in position or if nothing else is available on short notice.
      You also shouldn't forget that the warrior bug just wouldn't be as effective in 40k as in starship troopers because the 40k Universe has much more powerful weapons and enemies. Bolters come to mind. Or the Orks. The Orks would absolutly LOVE the warrior bugs. They are essentially all they ever want from an enemy. They are virtually limitless in numbers, each and every one of them is fucking awsome at fighting, they prefer to fight at close range and they are filled with spiky bits that make excellent trophies and/or improvised weapons.

    • @jameswilliams2075
      @jameswilliams2075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KingQwertzlbrmpf ya if you dropped them in it would go bad at first but they will make new bugs just slower they will likely survive most except the orks nids and necrons in my opinion because the emperium will not see them as a threat till its to late and they strike the emperium will survive but with heavy losses. Then there's the nurse bugs that take genes from a new worlds animals to upgrade there warriors and make new bug types

  • @From-North-Jersey
    @From-North-Jersey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you haven't checked it out Heinlein wrote a book called "The Past Thru Tomorrow" commonly referred to as "The Future History Series" It is a collection of essays about how RAH thought the next couple of hundred years would play out. So far he is batting about .750. Robert Anson Heinlein was quite a character in real life, his personality was as large and boisterous as his characters tended to be.
    He wrote a lot. At one point before the science fiction took off(sorry) he was writing tons of magazine copy. He was definitely writing 90% of what was published in "Boys Life" the official magazine of the boy scouts of America while also writing about half of the written form pornography that was sold in barbershops at the time. Condoms(AKA:Merry Widows) and porn were sold out of the back room of barber shops and that is why women were only aloud in barbershops on saturday mornings if they were taking their sons for a hair cut.
    While all of the above was going on he lived in a nudist colony in California and at the time of his death had married three very attractive red headed women and divorced two of them. Despite the divorces they remained in his life as friends and stayed at the same colony.

  • @Xenomorphine
    @Xenomorphine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The vastly superior book described them as differently to what's on that cover: Bipedal, hulking, giant tarantula-like monstrosities, capable of using technology - used spaceships and ranged weapons. They made serious inroads in forcing the Federation back, initially, before human forces could start getting traction in the opposite direction. They were essentially an analogy for how Nazi Germany/Imperial Japanese steamed forth before allied forces could properly deal with them.
    The versions in the books effectively WERE Tyranids. No idea why those artistic portrayals were as goofy as they were.
    The ones in the (idiotic, frankly) film 'adaptation' would have been ridiculously ineffective. Wiped out with artillery, orbital bombardment and air strikes with ease. If the Federation had been depicted half-way realistically, they wouldn't have even been even an annoyance. They literally have to get in point-blank range before they can even try to do anything.
    It never made much sense, either, how they're able to even shoot those spore pod things over the massive distances required to get between planets. They were at very low sub-light speeds. Even if not able to track them, it would take decades, perhaps centuries, before they got anywhere near somewhere useful.
    Almost certainly highly vulnerable to chemical weapons, too. Definitely incendiaries. Could easily lure them in through scent or auditory cues into things like pits of viscous, sticky liquid, to entrap and set them alight. They want to crawl over their trapped brethren? Good! More of them just get set alight!
    You wouldn't need futuristic hardware to deal with them. Even early 20th century militaries could do it, so long as they knew what they are facing.
    The ones from the book? Not so much... Those were a LOT more difficult to deal with.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Arch: Games and Theory did not lie to you
    Me: That's a first.

    • @allantidgwell5624
      @allantidgwell5624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At no point did Games & Theory lie. At worst they omitted classified information, but as they had intelligence suggesting brain sucking bugs that was likely to protect the war effort from becoming knowledge to the enemy. Some information is need to know, and grunts don't need to know

  • @megaman1808
    @megaman1808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Arch my main man, I'm so for more lore explanation with the Arch warhammer spin to it.

  • @AeneasGemini
    @AeneasGemini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Still waiting for Starship Troopers: Terran Command. Been far too long since someone made a good RTS

  • @DaneCypel
    @DaneCypel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes! Thank you for mentioning that the bugs in the book had energy weapons.

  • @irondarknessdarkness8900
    @irondarknessdarkness8900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A+ for covering the novels and where the bugs came from

  • @MadJustin7
    @MadJustin7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is a comment.
    I'M DOING MY PART!

  • @Zakvadr1995
    @Zakvadr1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ooh! More Starship Troopers Lore!

  • @eichler721
    @eichler721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the movie its a classic. The bugs where done very well.

  • @ej.crusing6130
    @ej.crusing6130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Now for the real question: Can a warrior bug bitch slap a genestealer to death?

    • @WombatDave
      @WombatDave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're basically a tyranid warrior spec'd for melee, so however that compares...

    • @cognisant307
      @cognisant307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WombatDave I'm not sure who wins but I'd pay good money to watch.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Genestealer would have made a new Hybrid out of the warrior.
      A Hormaguant would have been a better comparison, while a lone Arachnid Warrior will be able to effortlessly shread several. The Warriors will make 10,000 In the next week, while the hormeguants will have made 70,000 in the next few hours.

    • @eurtz876
      @eurtz876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genestealer would be way too fast,they can decapitate space marines before they react. It would tear the bug apart

  • @GorNaKat
    @GorNaKat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Forget the bugs - Arch is almost a proper Vtuber now! He moves! And with such grace.

  • @Mouth17
    @Mouth17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Should have gone full Roanoke gaming and started with the feet lol

  • @Inukazan
    @Inukazan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Huh, I was just rewatching some of your starship trooper work. How fortuitous.

  • @PuraajTV
    @PuraajTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    more Starship troopers lore? NICE! Keep it coming arch!!!

  • @jesusisherelookbusy
    @jesusisherelookbusy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    NUKE ‘EM, RICO!!!

  • @Hellsong89
    @Hellsong89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My question would be how these things manage to walk on soft terrain, since their ground pressure is roughly equal to rhino on pogo stick? Also how their claws stay sharp with constant wear on the movement? Though just the weight alone will pierce trough human, but still.

    • @marley7868
      @marley7868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      my guess they don't go for long engagements and are crippled by a need to rest they aren't relentless they just feel like it with proper coordination

    • @WombatDave
      @WombatDave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Depends on how soft the terrain is. A bit of loose sand isn't going to much of a problem if there is something hard under it. As for sharpness, the chitin almost certainly grows like a cat's claws.

    • @shadowhunter343
      @shadowhunter343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      interesting question since we never see them walk on soft dirt, a strategy could probably be to make a moat with mud.
      It wouldn't be too far-fetched for them to sharpen them between engagements.

    • @Shedovv
      @Shedovv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@shadowhunter343 A moat would not work. At most it will cause a few hundred to get stuck, but then the rest will use their dead as a carpet and waltz on over the whole shebang to the fortress walls... And then repeat the process to get over the walls too... and the ones stuck in the moat will probably still be alive as well, since while Arch insists they need Air, it is undeniable they can at the very least hold their breath for a truckload of time!

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They eat the old and wounded.

  • @rickyspanish6596
    @rickyspanish6596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should talk about how the warrior bug can not only survive, but fight in a vacuum.

  • @MidniteMeatBus
    @MidniteMeatBus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some of the best creature design ever from this film

  • @hammerheadxray8152
    @hammerheadxray8152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always loved the look of the Warrior Bugs. Star Ship Troopers the movie started my love of sci fi

  • @unsmote1560
    @unsmote1560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Considering the main arachnoid force are quadrupedal berserkers the answer is quite simple.
    For defensive applications the of proximity mines around areas of strategic importance. Considering their entomology this would be of prime importance as their nerve stem and likbs will be most vulnerable to this form of attack.
    For offensive applications high explosive munitions (for your consideration a 40mm rotary grenade launcher) seems as though it would be more effective for infantry units.
    This in addition to mine placement prior to large scale infantry engagement would be invaluable for corralling enemy forces and the establishment of choke points.
    As much as I love Starship Troopers the ineffectiveness of the MI (in the films) use tactics more suited for conventional terrestrial warfare than the asymmetric war they are actually engaged in.

    • @Ammoniummetavanadate
      @Ammoniummetavanadate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the books the MI basically attack with high speed hit and run tactics using their power armour to jump long distances at great speed.
      The movies get that so wrong, I wanted to see a y-rack with football nukes.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Arch look into the anime Muv Luv alternate eclipse you'll love the aliens.

  • @FortuneZer0
    @FortuneZer0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eagerly awaiting Starship Troopers - Terran Command

  • @Reaperkody245
    @Reaperkody245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The jaws of the Warrior Bug jaws are like giant pair of shears meant for slicing and dicing as the tip for the jaws are capable for piercings through armor.
    Don't know how much psi of force the warrior has in it's jaws to bite a person in half.

  • @enoughothis
    @enoughothis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To fight the Bug we must understand the Bug.

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean find the biggest one and nuke it from orbit and the other ones will fall out of control and burn the rest got it.

    • @enoughothis
      @enoughothis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikecampos1193, nuke the whole site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

    • @LookHereMars
      @LookHereMars 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "We can ill afford another Klendathu."

  • @Askethanoras
    @Askethanoras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Their bug concept is top-notch in character design.

  • @reenlux7985
    @reenlux7985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BUGS SIR!!! MILLIONS OF THEM!!! - Calm down Trooper - how many millions?

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Make sure they are warriors and not workers before wasting ammo!

  • @lordfrostwind3151
    @lordfrostwind3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm wondering about the food and water logistics for the Arachnids. The worlds that the Arachnids inhabit all seem very arid and I have to imagine the food and water requirements for even a single warrior bug, much less trillions must be fairly significant, and they don't seem to follow the model of the Tyranids. My guess is Arachnid hives must be somewhat like African Termite mounds where farming all take place in the deeper levels, which given their size could be miles underground. Not exactly practical for strategic planners trying to root out Arachnid hives, but it would at least give a good idea how to ensure they are really gone for good.

    • @viysnjor4811
      @viysnjor4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a hive mind is rather susceptible to contagion. viral weaponry maybe?

    • @antonioliles5027
      @antonioliles5027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@viysnjor4811 Yeah, the heavy gasses used in the book were great at cleaning out bug hives. Well, the upper levels anyways.

    • @private2132
      @private2132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats a really good point, and has cascading issues. like, knowing Clandathu was a hive. Seeing farms, hives, etc on the surface would have let people know.. but.. it was seemingly empty. and, infrastructure would absolutely be a prime thing to attack with air superiority, esp versus a foe with massive numbers of soldiers. huge army=huge food requirements. so.. yeah. fungus? and underground rivers?

    • @dralord1307
      @dralord1307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@private2132 I would also assume they recycle any fallen bug. Thats a lot of food, no reason to let it go to waste from the bug point of view.

    • @antonioliles5027
      @antonioliles5027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@private2132 There is also the fact that many insects require less food and water in general than mammals. Especially when they go into long periods of hibernation.
      Also, when not directly at war, the bugs would not need to breed a large population of warrior bugs. And, while they are at war, well there is plenty of food laying around on the surface after a large battle.

  • @RedwolfDogrocket
    @RedwolfDogrocket ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely everyone: AAARGH KILL IT!
    China: Yum!
    Japan: 😍

  • @urishima
    @urishima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't beat that 50s SciFi chique.

  • @noided4230
    @noided4230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate the effort on the narration. Lovely stuff

  • @panzermkii7675
    @panzermkii7675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The various bugs in Star Ship Troopers Roughnecks was awesome

  • @terrynewsome6698
    @terrynewsome6698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You forgot the 1988 anime version of the bugs

  • @vithehoneybadger2641
    @vithehoneybadger2641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this was really good, cant wait for more lore from the bug side!

  • @pirig-gal
    @pirig-gal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time seeing the animated Archstartes in the corner. It's really nice.

    • @Far-Right_Celt
      @Far-Right_Celt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hes had that for quite a while

    • @pirig-gal
      @pirig-gal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Far-Right_Celt I've seen the still image for quite a while too, but I don't remember the animated version.

  • @thatguyoverthere6214
    @thatguyoverthere6214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arch rolls his A's and R's like he's been to fifteen quinceaneras.

  • @Zyrodil
    @Zyrodil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could listen to Arch explaining lore for fucking hours.

  • @buggyboy2849
    @buggyboy2849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing video as always! Just a small correction, chitin is pronounced kai-tin but other than that this is a very detailed and thorough analysis of the Warrior Bugs! Can't wait for the Tanker video.

    • @buggyboy2849
      @buggyboy2849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Junior Read Hey as a non-english speaker I can understand this but it's always nice to improve when you realise a mistake :) Chitin is a deceptive word but it's nice to use it properly once you learn how it's pronounced.

  • @MidniteMeatBus
    @MidniteMeatBus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The warrior bug from the 1997 film to me is literally as Iconic as the T800 of Robocop. Id do anything to have a scale accurate statue of warrior bug in my house if I had the money to blow.

  • @Fen_Wolf
    @Fen_Wolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell yes more starship troopers!

  • @fakename7901
    @fakename7901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally I was starting to get the junkie shakes

  • @martelstorm4845
    @martelstorm4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here to watch all your Armageddon videos again for the maybe 5th time. Very happy to see you are doing starship troopers stuff too!

  • @photosyntheticzee9915
    @photosyntheticzee9915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do think the arachnid warrior is more scary with a ranged energy weapon.
    Maybe they could be more like a mixture between what they are in the movie and a Combine Strider from Half Life 2?
    Maybe give them twin lasers on either side of their mandibles? But then the battles aren’t made up of mowing down hordes of these guys.

  • @TeutonicKnight92
    @TeutonicKnight92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also assume that as long as they can “recover” their own to use as food the expenditure of resources gets even slimmer

  • @MrSaltycrackers
    @MrSaltycrackers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad I've seen the starship trooper movies it makes these videos so much cooler

  • @DefaultFlame
    @DefaultFlame 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All a warrior bug needs to do to climb a mount of its dead siblings is to slot both its forelegs into a hole each, sink them relatively gently as deep as they will go, its basically a bundle of sticks so the long thin limb will not move sideways, do the same with the rear legs, extract the front legs and repeat the proces further up, etc.
    A warrior bug is all points, long sticks, and thick, hard curved edged that will either catch or deflect a long stick poked into the pile. Its like walking on stilts through a mangrove swamp.

  • @lightningchegg4823
    @lightningchegg4823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just beautiful, highly entertaining, some other words that hopefully convince the algorithm to give you another chance.

  • @krzosu
    @krzosu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simple effective swarm killing machine - for bugs a perfect choice to swarm enemies.

  • @radec5437
    @radec5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the lore of Starship troopers.
    It's quite unique

  • @theotherccount4481
    @theotherccount4481 ปีที่แล้ว

    This movie should be an example for any Tyranid movie, specialised bugs with a common terrifying warrior class.
    Endless hoards who want everything and anything.

  • @MrGarhan
    @MrGarhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a simple citizen, I see Starship Trooper lore I up vote

  • @leandroingrassia
    @leandroingrassia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Oh, come on, it’s just a bug"

  • @battlemastergenkhan4622
    @battlemastergenkhan4622 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I think of the Megarachnids on Murder I always think of Starsip Troopers.

  • @theotherbaratheon1895
    @theotherbaratheon1895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mark 19 automatic grenade launcher springs to mind.

  • @craigore2011
    @craigore2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always figured that the mandible on the arachnid was inspired by a jaw styled staple remover. Blown up a million times, this innocuous office item would be quite terrifying indeed.

  • @emperorconstantine1.361
    @emperorconstantine1.361 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why I would take the second movie’s E-Pulse Rifles.
    Only needs a few shots to kill a bug.
    (Even if semi-auto only)

  • @broseffman
    @broseffman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Emperor watching all this and thinking,
    "If only everyone had a gun that shot...like...grenade bullets or something. And we're gonna need to get some decent armor too..."

  • @MathewPigman
    @MathewPigman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hey anyone here seen the "Roughnecks" cartoon? I remember liking it when I was a kid. wondering what others thought.

    • @tba113
      @tba113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember it. Better than decent, as early all-cgi shows go, and it did a better job of not actively trying to take a steaming dump on the book. So, of course, it was canceled a few episodes before a conclusion that would have wrapped up its second season.
      There was a tabletop war game that came out a few years later, too, with standard cap troopers using the powered suits from the show. The rule book for it mentioned that some backwater colonies were so resource-poor that their local militias (they couldn't afford to maintain the higher-tech gear used by garrisons of _real_ MI troopers) had to make do with just body armor and helmets for defense - and, hilariously, showed an illustration of troops in the movie-style battle rattle.

  • @Muck006
    @Muck006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:27 I can't help it, but the arachnids seem to "HOP ALONG" to some kind of SLAPSTICK MUSIC in that. The whole "up-and-down movement" of the body seems totally off, because it is INEFFICIENT!

  • @Zaprozhan
    @Zaprozhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Props to 90s CGI teams who made these bugs look so goddamn good.

  • @traitorouskin7492
    @traitorouskin7492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christ! I was born in 79' these dates make me feel young and cool.

  • @XylaOXO
    @XylaOXO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the RPG books its explained the bugs are kinda like leaf cutter ants, they have farms in their hives where they take decaying material to grow a fungis to eat and to produce an atmosphere for the hive. Though in desperate times cannibalism is on the table.

  • @TheMauviet
    @TheMauviet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:45 this part really made me hate how the Federation don't put any sort of sight on their guns in the movie

    • @shanehudson3995
      @shanehudson3995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or uses standard FMJ ammunition.
      FFS, grenade launchers are a good time!

  • @tuomio5043
    @tuomio5043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well a brain bug IS picked up by a power armored soldier in the book.

    • @chayudyodchit2872
      @chayudyodchit2872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How big is a brain bug in the novel?

    • @tuomio5043
      @tuomio5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chayudyodchit2872 a bit hard to tell, but a soldier strapped one to himself and climbed out of a cave. They do have power armor meaning some level of superhuman strength. Based on that I'd estimate it to be in the range from an obese human to a cow.

    • @chayudyodchit2872
      @chayudyodchit2872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tuomio5043 how about the worker and warrior bugs?.

    • @tuomio5043
      @tuomio5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chayudyodchit2872 I don't remember it giving any scale for them, i do remember assuming they were similar to the movies. Larger than humans but lightly built.

    • @chayudyodchit2872
      @chayudyodchit2872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tuomio5043 are the warrior as strong as marauder troopers?

  • @NotoriusBEN1
    @NotoriusBEN1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Explosive ammunition is required on the front lines...

  • @Bake-kurijra
    @Bake-kurijra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the tanker bug please and thank you arch and FOR THE EMPEROR

  • @nocturnalsblade8121
    @nocturnalsblade8121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He moves! Now all he needs to do is drink his coffee.

  • @sharks3010
    @sharks3010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bug Expert: "Brain Bugs! Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks 10:19"
    Me: "Personally, I find it 18:41!" 🕷🐞

  • @shadowhunter343
    @shadowhunter343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should've mentioned the fact that they can burrow and hibernate for long durations as well as produce small amounts of eggs to build an ambush or eventually a new colony.

  • @lysytoszef
    @lysytoszef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not to say that the newer design isn't brilliant, but the idea of billions of skittering spiders, too small to aim at properly, coming down at you is still terrifying. Double so, if the spiders are shooting lasers at you...

  • @ZiGGi03
    @ZiGGi03 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always loved starship troopers bro ! Hell yeah I’m excited!

  • @Sabactus
    @Sabactus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it just me or is the way that Arch rolls his R's make the videos seems that much more hoity toity, in a good way.

  • @exsperginatus837
    @exsperginatus837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The board game design seems to take some art inspiration from the Dune novel covers since they came out around the same time.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same publisher perhaps, so reusing the same artwork.

  • @xerxBreak
    @xerxBreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would be interested on your impressions on Muv-luv, seeing as its very clearly strongly influenced/inspired by Starship Troopers

  • @deathbb703
    @deathbb703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another reason for the large size of the mandibles would be for movie large objects since warrior bugs do help in some building and excavation when not in battle. Also in the rpg book they list that some warriors come with a larva that lives parasitic like inside their bodies and when they die the larva eat the body and rabidly grow bursting from the dead warrior,goes on a rampage attacking all none bugs, and then dies. It was the bugs answer to mobile infantry fighting warriors tunnels. They also claimed the warriors could be molded by the queens to suit what ever environments they were trying to take over including places without atmospheres.

  • @ragnarrocksoft9096
    @ragnarrocksoft9096 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arch (perhaps correctly so) makes it sound like throwing warrior bugs against the humans is like using a 50 cal to put down a hamster