the fact that the best counter to Terran Ghost for Zerg in the late game is to Neural Parasite a ghost to EMP all the other ghosts really tells it's own story
It's kind of wild just how clean the tippity top players are compared to even people in the top 10, top 20 or so. Lots of just really small things, like in game 2 Ryung not splitting his medivacs when parasitic bombed, SHIN not cancelling the hatchery etc. Very minor details but not mistakes you see people like Clem, Serral, Maru etc make.
To be fair, both medivacs were bombed so it wouldn't have actually mattered all that much. The one that died was going to die no matter what. The one that lived would have taken maybe 10 less damage.
I love games like that, they were not on the highest, highest execution level, but my god they were entertaining! Did not know who would win till near the end.
We can all clearly see that Ghosts did have an impact on this series, and that was when one was Neural Parasited to EMP'd his Ghost friends. This seemed quite powerful and frankly, unfair. There is virtually 0 counterplay to this. Therefore, a new update to the PTR should be introduced: Ghosts cannot be Neural Parasited. Supply cost should also be reverted to 2. That should help Ghosts, the most underused unit in SC2 history. Ghosts really need the help.
So what you're saying is there should be no counter play for zerg against Ghosts sniping all their T3 units to death for practically free? Mmmhn I'm going to say no to that. Nevermind not being a hero unit like the mothership, and even then I feel like they should lower the Mothership's damage a hair if they're going to make it immune to parasite and abduction. Also most underused unit? You mean the unit that's being fielded by all the top level Terrans by the 7 or 8 minute mark? 10 minute mark at the latest? Are you okay?
That is completely ridiculous- just make it every time a ghost is killed or neural parasited, a nuke instantly drops where the ghost dies to ensure mutual destruction 😂
I was so afraid Shin would attack into Ryeon. The Terran was broke and he had a fully-mining base. Get rid of half your drones, max out, and target units that cost gas. You will eventually win if you don't sacrifice your army for nothing.
The fact terran doesn’t even need to scout anymore because the other races have been nerfed so hard that they have no threatening early game options is actually pretty disgusting Edit: Found the Terran players \/
Lol, did you even watch the video after he said that? He lost the game. Unbelievable, you zergs are the ultimate crybabies and projecting your crying upon others.
@@ZyoAISim They lost the first game because they walled themselves in with just a reactor, didn't have a bunker, rushed two hellions then didn't leave them or bring them back to defend, and did the greediest possible opener with no unit production or scouting. The overall trend of terrans not scouting is neverthless indicative of the fact that early game pressure against terran is increasingly unthreatening. Terran made a huge amount of errors to lose the game here, not simply lack of scouting.
"As of late, korean terran players do not scout....." They dont have to, they got all they need in any case, whatever the enemy throws on them. Marine+evac, insane ghosts, seriously overbuffed liberators and thors to swoop up air....
@@anvietanh6723 Whats peak comedy is you pulling assumtions out of your ass and state them as the objective truth.... I have extensive game time in ALL the major RTS games since Dune 2 in 1998, including SC2, as RTS is one of my favourite genres.. I said i dont even play the game, i never said i have NEVER played the game. A simple question from you instead of a blanket statement would have cleared up that for you.... Given your anime-profile picture, chances are high i played RTS games before you were born... All RTS games is based around the same ideas, balancing strengths and weaknesses of units, classes and fractions... I dont need to currently play the game to see that terran has a set of units with VERY high synnergy effects, that flow sooo nicely together and is very hard to counter.
Woah woah woah... game 2 at 35:00 game time (38:29 video time) Shin makes 6 evo chambers??? @lowko can you please check the replay and see what those were about? I can't quite tell from the minimap where they were made with all the other action going on... but surely they weren't just energy fodder for the vipers?
Evo chambers have the most HP per cost of any zerg building. It is efficient to make for viper batteries, also saving HP on your hatches so they are not super dead before any fights.
@Seeker265729 I thought about that but there was only 4 or 5 vipers and heaps and heaps of structures this late in the game that they could have fed on... not saying you're wrong just didn't seem like the obvious reason given the position the game was in
The fact that Terran lose this game is simply because he made the forbidden unit: the Raven. It is an unspoken rules that Terran must not make a Raven in late game. Or bad things will happen to you
Lol I would have left already . Passed 15 min I know I do not have the skill nor map awareness to win lol. I like to two base timing attack with my Protoss . I also think Terran should use flying bases to shield there army like mass over lord 😂😂
That unit, alongside SH, single-handedly destroyed Starcraft 2's player base and coincided with the decline of players and viewers (not the only reasons ofc, but big contributors).
"A bit of collateral damage there." -Lowko
"Collateral is my favorite kind of damage." -actual Siege Tank quote
the fact that the best counter to Terran Ghost for Zerg in the late game is to Neural Parasite a ghost to EMP all the other ghosts really tells it's own story
Can't wait for the next City Skylines update and the upcoming "Surprise 15 Broodlords!" disaster.
It's kind of wild just how clean the tippity top players are compared to even people in the top 10, top 20 or so. Lots of just really small things, like in game 2 Ryung not splitting his medivacs when parasitic bombed, SHIN not cancelling the hatchery etc. Very minor details but not mistakes you see people like Clem, Serral, Maru etc make.
Yea, it makes the skill ceiling feel infinite, which is both a good and a bad thing.
Those guys do still very occasionally make those mistakes as well, they are human after all.. but it is just so much more rare.
To be fair, both medivacs were bombed so it wouldn't have actually mattered all that much. The one that died was going to die no matter what. The one that lived would have taken maybe 10 less damage.
37:24 that late game Raven is when you know the terren is scared.
What a satisfying end! We saw everything.
I love games like that, they were not on the highest, highest execution level, but my god they were entertaining! Did not know who would win till near the end.
At 27:33 we see a ghost snipe a viper at the same moment the viper abducts the ghost. Never seen that before! Pretty cool!
Cool! Great games! Thank you!
"Mineral fields smell like Zerg" ))
Bedankt Lowko voor al het entertainment het afgelopen jaar!
We can all clearly see that Ghosts did have an impact on this series, and that was when one was Neural Parasited to EMP'd his Ghost friends. This seemed quite powerful and frankly, unfair. There is virtually 0 counterplay to this.
Therefore, a new update to the PTR should be introduced: Ghosts cannot be Neural Parasited. Supply cost should also be reverted to 2. That should help Ghosts, the most underused unit in SC2 history. Ghosts really need the help.
So what you're saying is there should be no counter play for zerg against Ghosts sniping all their T3 units to death for practically free? Mmmhn I'm going to say no to that. Nevermind not being a hero unit like the mothership, and even then I feel like they should lower the Mothership's damage a hair if they're going to make it immune to parasite and abduction.
Also most underused unit? You mean the unit that's being fielded by all the top level Terrans by the 7 or 8 minute mark? 10 minute mark at the latest? Are you okay?
@@Wolvenwargmusic you got wooshed there brother
That is completely ridiculous- just make it every time a ghost is killed or neural parasited, a nuke instantly drops where the ghost dies to ensure mutual destruction 😂
Lay off the weed dude
@@GreenT_LoR Lmao
Careful bro
Some people don't know what sarcasm is xD
Wouldn't be a Ragn-... Shin game without a ragnarok of banelings.
I was so afraid Shin would attack into Ryeon. The Terran was broke and he had a fully-mining base. Get rid of half your drones, max out, and target units that cost gas. You will eventually win if you don't sacrifice your army for nothing.
great games! great series!
The fact terran doesn’t even need to scout anymore because the other races have been nerfed so hard that they have no threatening early game options is actually pretty disgusting
Edit: Found the Terran players \/
Lol, did you even watch the video after he said that? He lost the game. Unbelievable, you zergs are the ultimate crybabies and projecting your crying upon others.
He immediately got pushing for not scouting and lost
Wow... This is the biggest nonsense I have ever read. Just wow...
I agree that the Terrans are OP, but didn't they lose the first game because they didn't scout?
@@ZyoAISim They lost the first game because they walled themselves in with just a reactor, didn't have a bunker, rushed two hellions then didn't leave them or bring them back to defend, and did the greediest possible opener with no unit production or scouting. The overall trend of terrans not scouting is neverthless indicative of the fact that early game pressure against terran is increasingly unthreatening. Terran made a huge amount of errors to lose the game here, not simply lack of scouting.
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Happy Friday! ❤
"As of late, korean terran players do not scout....." They dont have to, they got all they need in any case, whatever the enemy throws on them. Marine+evac, insane ghosts, seriously overbuffed liberators and thors to swoop up air....
They reverted the liberator buff tho
Get good, son.
@@PartiedOutPhil get gud? at what, watching? As i said, i dont even play the game, just watch it at lowko page. Even i can see something is off...
@@yvindsollien2990You dont play the game yet you talk like you have experience is peak comedy
@@anvietanh6723 Whats peak comedy is you pulling assumtions out of your ass and state them as the objective truth.... I have extensive game time in ALL the major RTS games since Dune 2 in 1998, including SC2, as RTS is one of my favourite genres.. I said i dont even play the game, i never said i have NEVER played the game. A simple question from you instead of a blanket statement would have cleared up that for you.... Given your anime-profile picture, chances are high i played RTS games before you were born... All RTS games is based around the same ideas, balancing strengths and weaknesses of units, classes and fractions... I dont need to currently play the game to see that terran has a set of units with VERY high synnergy effects, that flow sooo nicely together and is very hard to counter.
Woah woah woah... game 2 at 35:00 game time (38:29 video time) Shin makes 6 evo chambers??? @lowko can you please check the replay and see what those were about? I can't quite tell from the minimap where they were made with all the other action going on... but surely they weren't just energy fodder for the vipers?
Evo chambers have the most HP per cost of any zerg building. It is efficient to make for viper batteries, also saving HP on your hatches so they are not super dead before any fights.
@Seeker265729 I thought about that but there was only 4 or 5 vipers and heaps and heaps of structures this late in the game that they could have fed on... not saying you're wrong just didn't seem like the obvious reason given the position the game was in
wat a game indeed sir
Awesome game.
The fact that Terran lose this game is simply because he made the forbidden unit: the Raven.
It is an unspoken rules that Terran must not make a Raven in late game. Or bad things will happen to you
Great games from Shin, it's always nice to watch Terrans get destroyed.
Make late game roaches viable! Hive level upgrade that lets them shoot into the air for the swarmy anti air armor
damn bro fumbled by wasting too much on buildings in the last game
Yay Zerg games
Broodlord the best unity Zerg ❤❤❤
I imagine zerg smell like rotten fish
Just in time for lunch.
Ah timezones 😂 I'm drinking that first cup of coffee and waiting for my brain to finish installing updates
Over here it's already getting dark and Time for a nap to SC2
You're the best 💜
I always thought mass bases was a waste of materials.
not for terran. and maybe zerg.. but zerg's case is not as significant compared to T
Oh yeah The turtling has been adresses
why terran just dont use vickings against brood lords?
Zerg needs a buff 💪 need some BAN HP
Lol I would have left already . Passed 15 min I know I do not have the skill nor map awareness to win lol. I like to two base timing attack with my Protoss . I also think Terran should use flying bases to shield there army like mass over lord 😂😂
"Nerf turtling"....
Feels wrong to be this early, wish we saw more TvP
That unit, alongside SH, single-handedly destroyed Starcraft 2's player base and coincided with the decline of players and viewers (not the only reasons ofc, but big contributors).
Just in time for bed
Please Lowko, play another games, like one vid each week in a different game would make my day
It's an sc2 channel lol, check out his other channel and twitch
@@ericcortazar9349 You really dont know lowkos channel, bro has a lot fo games here, i just want a little more, its just that
GGWP
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I'm not first...wtf it uploaded 50 seconds ago😂
Ryung did his best vs Zerg who is the most powerful race this patch by far
1/10 rage bait
@ Yet look who responded 😂
I remember when bait used to be believable
Hahahaha
And I haven't play the game in years
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