Alan Grayson on the GOP Health Care Plan: "Don't Get Sick! And if You Do Get Sick, Die Quickly!"'
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- This is Rep. Alan Grayson discussing the GOP plan for health care. Part one, don't get sick. Part two, if you do get sick... Part three, die quickly.
And, in 2020, that is still their plan
Grayson's absolutely correct.
If he's wrong, please . . . let's hear all about the alternative Republican health care plan . . .
So Republicans want people to die, huh? That's your argument? And you defend it as "absolutely correct." Not even a faint acknowledgement of hyperbole. You are intellectually and morally bankrupt.
Single Payer.
Their healthcare plan is to allow you to control your own healthcare decisions. Are you so fucking inept that you need these cunts to take care of you?
Grayson is still right. Republican have NEVER put forward any healthcare plan whatsoever. If you want to disagree, point to a real proposed Republican healthcare plan or shut the fuck up.
Tuhljin 45,000 people die per year due to lack of basic healthcare under our current system. Case closed
Eight years later and this video once again becomes relevant
13 years
*remains
I admire this man for what he stated back then because 11 years later, we have still yet to see any pieces or parts of a Republican healthcare plan and it's January 16th, 2020. Alan needs to come back!
Support his Senate campaign
Actually I will, I will look him up. Didn't know he was running for Senate
Hes right and he also is doing an excellent amount of trolling.
KiljiArslan What exactly is TROLLING?
pissing people off, usually with inconvenient truths.
KiljiArslan O I see..I thought it was the other way round..thanks.
That's not "trolling". What he did was accurately and fairly describe what the GOP wants to do with healthcare and to American citizens.
+Scott Williams - You are a special brand of gullible.
I was privileged to see this happen live on CSPAN. Unforgettable.
Georgia Gov Nathan Deal just proposed a solution to hospitals going broke because Reagan mandates they provide Emergency care: Let them deny care if the patient can't pay.
And you thought Grayson was joking.
Grayson isn't joking. Many GA hospitals are going out of business for lack of payment. The ACA would create more jobs in the medical fields. More insured people too who can pay their bills. GA said no to a healthcare exchange and no to medicare expansion which would pay hospitals. Instead he let them shut down and go under.
Olivia Hassan Hospitals going under? That's the free market!
Georgia is the birthplace of bad Republican ideals....as well as just bad Republicans in general, as if there were any "good" Republicans anymore.
It's one thing to infer this from their policy positions. But when you have a trump supporter literally say it word for word to your face like I just had today at work with a Republican coworker. It left me speechless, you cant argue with that.
I love the brutal honesty of Rep. Grayson.
I want free healthcare like NZ, Britain, Canada and the other first worlds have.
It's not free, you're paying for it with your taxes.
LdyVder true. 1/8 of my wages at minimum wage is totally acceptable for being able to avoid ever paying more than a few hundred bucks for a doctor aside from tax.
And also extremely cheap price to pay for having the knowledge that no one I see will miss out on the assistance they need.
Also I like not having 2/3 of my taxes going to the military.
Living in a civilized society means paying taxes. I'm fine with paying taxes if it means people won't fucking die because they have no health insurance.
Jeanluc Me too. This austerity crap is going nowhere fast. Plus the medical mafia is fast becoming plutocrat A$$H@LES who want to have death panels based on ability to pay. I hate the medical field.
LdyVder much better to pay 20% of your income in premiums and deductibles than in taxes, amiright??
LOVE Alan Grayson! The man is a NATIONAL TREASURE!
+Amendment#Two And we should care about a politician's personal issues because...?
+Amendment#Two "The media is all over it, so I have to care, too!" Here is a suggestion: grow up and don't use any politician's personal life as an excuse to vote or not vote for them
***** So if it's not his personal life, why bring it up? Something about you clearly doesnt add up.
Dumb fucking right wing buffoon!
You talk like that to your supposed mother, smegma-mouth?
This guy is so savage 😂😂😂
Thank u Rep Grayson for having the guts to stand up to greed
Alan, instead of supporting a system that forces the individual to buy insurance....why not expand medicaid and create a single payer health care system.
You get sick, you go to a doctor....any doctor. Your doctor, your brother's doctor...a doctor in Alaska. No more networks, no more co-pays. Quality health care for all.
"..why not expand medicaid and create a single payer health care system."
Alan tried to.
As did all the rest of the folks who were working to improve what was happening in American health care since forever
Republicans flat out refused to consider it as a starting point or a compromise of any kind.
You don't know this?
Why not pay doctors and hospitals in magical fairy dust?
+John Doman
Magical free market fairy dust ?
+John Doman You act like proper public healthcare is some crazy concept instead of something that pretty much every other industrialized nation does while still paying less per capita than the US does with its awful private system.
Plus, the half of Americans who get their insurance from their employers aren't ENSLAVED because they have to have the medical insurance.
Who else thought of this after the House GOP unveiled their new healthcare plan?
I did.
This plan was announced on Fox News this week and endorsed by the Lt. Governor of Texas.
oh how true
The Dems need more guys like this who is not afraid to square up and punch the Republicans right in the teeth.
Harry Reid supported the moderate GOP turned Dem Patrick Murphy in the primary.
And look what happened? I'm glad Harry Reid retired, he was worthless. Personally I would love Grayson run the DNC.
He wouldn't have been afraid to bash Rubio again and again during the Senate debate
You're evil.
Lee Greer I know Democrats are such pussies. We need to get term limits so these idiots will work for us and not be worried about having a lifetime political career. If they can only serve 8 years maximum and be lifetime barred from lobbying these turds won't be worried about getting re elected and more worried about serving the people who put them in office.
Grayson is right.
*****
I don't think so.
+Amendment#Two 1) prove it by giving details without swearing at myself, or others, without name calling, and without mentioning the words "liberal" or "socialist" as those arguments are thinner than tissue paper.
2) he is currently the most effective member of the senate with a record number bills passed, often with cross party support. The previous record holder was Bernie Sanders.
3) He and bernie sanders are the onlye two people in the house who raised their campaign finances from ordinary people.
4) Sen Grayson has called for and supports an Auditing of the federal reserve.
One day he will make an excellent president.
I don't admire anyone in particular. Its your failed system, not mine which is a socialist medical system, fully funded, free at the point of use.
There is no evidence beyond the words of his ex wife that such violence as you describe took place. There is a police report of her being shoved, at which point the senator left the premises. The truth was revealed when a video of the incident was released. She shoved him after attempting to stop him seeing his children.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/05/alan-grayson-lolita-grayson_n_4907121.html
Back to the issue at hand. What is the Republican universal healthcare plan ?
*****
In my country we decided long ago that health wasn't something we were going to allow the private sector to Carve up and run for profit.
The health system here is 2nd best in the world for costs, we spend nearly three times less than the USA per person which is in 27th place globally. My health system is also 3rd best for outcomes globally with new hospitals and latest technology and training, the USA for clinical outcomes is 18th.
As for it being free. If you are sick, if you have an accident, if you require any type of medical care at any point in your life, everything is free at the point of use.
Rather than private for profit medical firms charging thousands a year, we all pay a flat tax from our wages which is tapered so that those on the lowest incomes pay the least. If you become unemployed, the government covers the costs whilst unemployed.
In your money, a person on the minimum wage working full time 40hr week ($20,500 a year here) will pay $1080 a year automatically. For this they are fully insured until death. Its called a single payer healthcare system.
Our prescription charges are also flat rate. You can have any medication, in any prescribed amount, from any pharmacy, in any area, for a flat rate of $14.50 in your money.
My country is the United Kingdom, my medical system is called the NHS, it is a socialist system and nationally it is our proudest social achievement.
Any time someone has tried to introduce the private sector competition into the system, it has failed with the result of increased costs and lower quality services / products. They soon find come voting day that the people are not on their side...
Based on our budget for 70million people, the USA could have the same medical system for $750 Billion a year. Vastly less than the $3.2 TRILLION the US population currently spend yearly on private healthcare insurance according to Forbes and others..
With a single payer system, costs come down, cover goes up, quality improves. we have masses of economic data that supports this from all across Europe and the wider world,
Conversely purely private medical systems cost more, are less stable, perform masses of unwarranted tests for conditions that don't require them just to jack up the fee`s to the insurer, charge $20 a bandage and $30 an aspirin, Its that simple.
All I want is for you my friend, to have what I have.
+Amendment#Two Oh competition you mean blue cross ooooooorrrrrrrr blue shield, those are some great choices and proves how well competition works. I guess having one choice is better than no choice right?
This video is eight years old and the senators report on the Republicans health care plan is exactly the same as it was eight years ago
Sadly, still true today...And more dangerous today, than before. I want Democrats like this guy-actually willing to fight for people and not spineless sacks of shit who let Republicans walk all over them.
Does anyone really remember this
The Republican health care plan sounds like the Trump Administration's health care plan.
His plan, while shit, isnt as bad as paul ryans plan.
Its 2021 and Texas is about to open up for business despite how few people are vaccinated for Corona virus. This rant has aged better then even Rep. Grayson could have imagined in his worst nightmares.
And... Of course... Here we are. 'Repeal and replace' proves Grayson right.
Boy, wasn't he right!
The simple health plan is to take care of your health. If you get sick, go to a clinic and pay for the treatment. If you don't have enough funds, ask for help on gofundme.com
The point is to have an emergency fund, which is what I'm working on.
Avg surgery with avg insurance is well over $100k dollars with insurance covering maybe 50% if your LUCKY! Not sure how many American families have $50k laying around?
I wish he won the nomination for senate to replace Marco Rubio.
that was beautiful 😆
The democratic plan(Obamacare) and the republican plan(nothing really) both suck. Single payer is the way to go.
The GOP tried to introduce good ideas like interstate health insurance, which would've increased free market competition and reduced health insurance rates, and tort reform, which would've reduced speculative medical lawsuits that drive up healthcare costs. But, if you'll recall, the Dems locked the GOP out! They literally locked the doors and made law without allowing ANY ideas from the GOP. (Do you not remember this? Do you not know why Nancy Pelosi said, "We'll have to pass the bill before you can find out what's in it."? It's because the law was kept secret while the Dems counted on the blind faith of their sycophantic followers to ensure that Obamacare got passed without ANY critical thought! Now we have a total mess because of the subversion and corruption the Dems brought to the legislative process.
"Single payer" is the absolute worst option - it is wholesale communism applied to healthcare. It represents communism applied to 1/6 of the US economy. It will do to the US healthcare system what communism did to Russia and eventually every country behind the Iron Curtain - it destroyed them. Only now are the people of those countries emerging from generations of misery caused by the exact same collectivism being advocated by Dems for the US healthcare system.
B Erectus I don't care about this whole democrat vs. republican bullshit. Both parties suck. I gave both of these parties a chance in the past, but both have proved they're bad overall in different ways. I'm voting 3rd party in the future. With that being said, the republicans never really got behind a bill. Some of their members threw out some ideas like selling interstate health insurance, but they never put out a bill and explained how it would work out.
Besides, I still think the problem is private insurance and they are in cahoots with each other to keep prices high. Even if it was sold interstate, they would still screw and gouge everyone. As for single payer, it's not a communist idea, it is a socialist idea though. Communism is pushing a classless society, and socialism in something is the government running and owning something.
I don't favor socialism with everything, actually, I usually am against it, but I do favor socialism when it comes to retirement(social security) and health insurance(single payer). Other first world countries have some type of universal health care, whether it's the government owning and running insurance or the government running care facilities and insurance. I don't favor the govt taking over the care facilities because they aren't the problem, but the insurance companies are the problem and they should be done away with.
B Erectus Republicans were not locked out of the room by Democrats. They contributed something like 89 amendments to Obamacare before ultimately voting against it. For example, the individual mandate was placed in the bill by Senator Chuck Grassely before he railed against it. FYI, Obamacare itself was the conservative free market alternative to Hillarycare born out of the Heritage Foundation and introduced by Orin Hatch and Bob Dole in the 1990's. The only reason Republicans turned against it was because it was eventually championed by Barack Obama and they will be damned if he has a single legislative accomplishment to his credit. Think about it, they constantly scream about what a disaster Obamacare is and how they want to repeal and replace it. They have voted in the House of Representatives over 50 times to repeal it and yet they haven't voted once on a bill to replace it! If it were me and I believed that this legislation was a DISASTER as they like to put it, and I knew I could write an alternative with my eyes closed that is heads and shoulders superior to Obamacare, I would write the bill, introduce it to the floor, and let public opinion pressure members of congress to act on it. Why aren't the Republicans doing that? Don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with that picture? Tort reform and freedom of choice across state lines is something to think about, but it doesn't begin to solve the big elephant in the room which is PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. How do we enforce a prohibition on preexisting conditions and still maintain a free-market for-profit based system without mandating everyone have insurance?.This is the main question a Republican alternative plan would have to answer. What's your thoughts?
Run Alan And Run For Office Quickly.
He is still exactly right
2019 Still funny still true LOL!!
Accurate.
This has aged like fine wine
Relevant now more than ever.
Grayson is so spot on!
Little did he know, he was describing Obamacare.
Yeah? How so?
you sir (Lee) are an idiot......and teabagger
saurabhsonic Grayson described Obamacare perfectly. I.e., "do everything you can to ensure that insurees die fast". Then he attributed the description to the GOP, when the GOP was actually locked out of the entire Obamacare legislation! Or are you not aware that Obamacare (which increases healthcare costs, decreases healthcare services, and includes death panels) is entirely owned by the Dems?
charles lovett Name calling - what a clever response!
B Erectus The "death panel" lie has been debunked endlessly. In the previous system we had actual corporate death panels - that decided to drop coverage through rescission, lifetime caps, and just plain denying coverage for "pre-existing conditions." If you were okay with the previous system, that led to taxed emergency rooms, bankruptcies, suffering, and death, millions without coverage leaving them financially exposed, then it's useless engaging with you. You're too far gone, and a waste of everyone's time. Besides, you've already lost the fight - the ACA is here to stay, and if it goes, it will be replaced with Single Payer, which will be even better! Your side lost, and the American people won - this even includes you.
Alan Grayson is a reasonable, humorous and charismatic individual.
Basically, this is called the "Necessary and Proper Clause," and it allows Congress to make any laws it deems necessary and/or proper. Kind of like a way Congress can just make any law and Congress can say, "well, it's necessary! It's proper! We're doing it!"
Rep.Grayson thank you for your services, you're the best. God Bless you.
Alan Grayson is spot on!
Please run again! 😀
Can someone tell me how I can get in contact with Mr. Grayson now (Oct 2018). Thanks...I appreciate it very much. m
The more things change, the more they stay the same
Never have truer words been spoken!
You Were Right Then And You Are Right Now.
This gets me every time.
This Pandemic Proves It Finally.
You posted; " This guy thinks the taxpayer should pay for healthcare for someone who gets sick from overewating, drug abuse and anal sex ? "
Well actually, yes we DO pay for all Republican Representatives and Senators healthcare
Bravo Representative Grayson. You summed up ObamaCare perfectly. It's unaffordable for the people that benefit most from it. On the surface, subsidizing their premiums sound good and noble, but when you find out what is inside, the deductibles of maximum out-of-pocket expenses on Bronze and silver may be too much for those subsidized.
Source? The website when it is working.
In the meantime, go with NON-profit Avmed health insurance, until we get HR676 passed. I pay 20$/40$ copays, 20 for dr visit, 40 for specialist or procedure
2023 this is all they have still.
Oh absolutely. They have nothing better to offer. If you are someone with chronic health issues you are insane to want the Republicans to get their way on healthcare
the majority of the costs in health care comes from the fact that people usually don't crash and die that quickly. For example, if we come in with an 70yo old lady with a hip fracture, she has a 60-70% chance of being dead within the next year, the costs of maintaining her if say she gets an infection is astronomical in the ICU, even if for a short time. Die quickly will in fact make health care cheaper, but at the cost of everything health care stands for.
What an enormous difference ten years makes. This is no longer just the implicit GOP plan, but a _bipartisan_ healthcare plan. The ACA was never enough. We not only need single-payer health insurance capable of cutting out the private health "insurance" profiteers altogether, but a well-funded national health service, nationalization of the corporate-owned hospitals, and a government-funded healthcare research body comparable to NASA. The covid crisis warrants drastic measures like these more than ever.
Thousands are dying preventable deaths every day and the corporate-funded leadership of both the Democratic and Republican parties are more or less okay with this, and dissenters within the Democratic Party (AOC, Sanders, etc.) are powerless to change anything within their party. There's just as much blood on the hands of Democrats like Cuomo, Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden for compromising with the budget hawks as there is on the hands of Republicans like Trump and McConnell. The pay-go rule is in place in the house because Pelosi refuses to get rid of it.
Both parties, on behalf of the wealthy capitalist class, chose to do less than the bare minimum for working- and middle-class people while the Fed pumped trillions of dollars into banks and Wall Street to prop up GDP growth. If loaning out this sort of fiat money at rock-bottom interest to spend on helping the masses poses a risk of overheating the economy via currency inflation, that's an argument for restructuring the economy away from the hyper-exploitative business models that flourished after 2008 (precarious gig work, multiple part time jobs instead of one full time job with benefits), not for belt-tightening and austerity, not for constant mass death through neglect. Solving this crisis ultimately requires reining in the worst impulses short-run profit maximizers who ultimately fund and indirectly control this government. Optimizing for health necessarily means not optimizing for economic growth - only able to choose one, they chose blood sacrifice to keep the line on an upward trend.
With the new health care law there are high risk pools I can get access too if I chose private insurance...... 400 dollars a month with a 2,500 dollar deductible... That doesn't include the doctors visits which I would have to pay upfront... So any tests up to 2,500 I pay for.... UM I think I'll keep my 400 dollars in my own account each month.... THAT way I can pay for my tests ... Any thing major I need done and I file bankruptcy.... THAT"S the American health care system!
But NOBODY TOOK HIM SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!
LOOK AT FLORIDA NOW
@evolutionist101
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Man, this guy is awesome ! I wish Obama would give him a big position in his cabinet ! WE need more politicians like Grayson who isn't afraid of telling the truth, hasn't sold his soul to lobbyists, and wants to fix Bush and Reagan tragic mistakes that have us in dire straits today ! I have no 401K left and my job has been shipped to China ! my healthcare premiums have made me go bankrupt. Damn you fools in Florida for not giving Grayson a second term !
Sure is rage in here. If people want health insurance they should buy it themselves. It should be our responsibility to keep ourselves well, and health insurance agencies should be free to compete and make a profit.
My favorite "politician" by far. And I use "politician" lightly because Grayson is more of a concerned American citizen who became a politician so he could have a larger venue to express his concerns. And he represents the thoughts of millions of Americans who are disgusted with the Republican Party.
Have you read your providers insurance plan? Trust, you will be blown away by it!
@auroraslaugh
This is the big issue.... people that can get on Medacaid are protected... THE middle class are the ones getting screwed over .... There filing bankruptcy at alarming rates losing ALL THERE retirement and security because they fall ill... what about them ?
@NEBTV
LOL, I like that - jab and move - are you a boxer too? I've been passing around your new video. It's a morale booster!
this is as accurate now as ever.
that was awesome! love this guy! we need more plan spoken guys like that
@thereinliestherib
Wellpoint increased profits 91 percent from 2008 while it chopped 3.9 percent of its total enrollment.
United Health's profit increased 28 percent from 2008, while enrollment dropped by 3.4 percent.
Cigna's profit increased 346 percent and enrollment dropped 5.5 percent.
Humana's profit increased by 61 percent while enrollment decreased by 1.7 percent.
Aetna was the only company with a drop in profit and a gain in enrollment.
We need more people like him and ron paul in politics. They may not be on the same party but they at least stand up for the people. They care about our well being and will fight against the corporations and fight for our rights.
Not ALL social programs need to come to an end.
But Alan Graysons political career certainly did!!!
WEEEEEeeeeee!!!!!!
I wonder if the Congressman regrets his hateful rhetoric in light of the Scalise shooting.
@Ccola3 "Successful businessman"
Note that the last time this became a major point was in the 2000 presidential campaign. When George W. Bush’s business experience and his M.B.A. was cited as evidence of his facility with fiscal constraint. He was the first president to ever hold such a degree and we saw how that turned out. We need a commander-in-chief to lead the country, not a CEO.
Your use of caps makes you look so cool. I understand you and want to read your post when you put all caps in it.
PS: What's more dangerous, a corrupt Corporation, or a corrupt Government. You're soooo cool by the way.
He couldn't be more correct, even a decade after he said this.
Or run for office in Washington. Apparently the Congress has the best health care in the world, courtesy of the tax payers.
@thereinliestherib
When private insurance screws you over then you'll wake up.... IF you should ever fall ill you will see the evil of our current system.... When I see premiums exceed 1,400 dollars a month because of there AGE I have a real problem with our system... When I see deductibles continue to rise over 2,500 dollars I have a problems with our system... When I see private insurance deny payment for care because of pre-existing conditions I have a problem with our system
Mr. Grayson, you are my hero, and you speak the truth.
Did anybody else see this first on Auto Tune the News?
@GodDamnit7711 I'm saying that there are other people to save the economy without letting the sick people die, since America is debted and has no health care. Sweden nearly went bankrupt in the early 90's, but our prime minister back then, Göran Persson, managed to solve the problems without having to throw away health care.
You'll love this then: He was just re-elected back to the House after being defeated by a Tea Partier in 2010 with a lot of GOP support.
@funkyflights
Competition would clear this up. 1300 health insurers in the U.S. - I only have 3 choices in my market. If we could buy from the 1300 across the country, prices would be lower. Government never reduces prices - ever.
Since the Medicare inception of 1965, insurance has risen well above inflation - that's not a coincidence.
This is the summery of the plan! He is great, I will Look forward to more of his stuff
Well.. i live in Denmark, we got free dentist (up to 18 years old), hospitals and education.
No one wants to see people suffer. The rub lies in that money does not grow on trees.
He isn't wrong.
welcome back, Al!
why hasnt alan grayson ran to be the Gov'nr of florida
@auroraslaugh
Right now the census is 59 million Americans have no health insurance.... And rising every day.... 60 million Americans are on Medicaid!!!! 60 MILLION!!!!
Examples please.
Who ever said I wasn't an instigator? :P
Welcome back to the House, Alan.
I missed you and I love you!!!
God bless Alan Grayson- a politician who actually kept his campaign promises.
A politician who fought for the people, not thelobbyistss.
We need him back!
Greyson is a fabulous politician. Direct and logical.
I bet people in Florida are really kicking themselves now!!!
@funkyflights
My cousin lives and works as a teacher in England. She get all her preventative care here in the U.S. because it's much easier to get an appointment here in the U.S.. That's why I'm against the Obamacare bullshit. Her taxes are much higher to pay for all of that too.
And, yes we already do have a socialism programs... that are going bankrupt, because they don't work. Ever hear of Social Security and Medicare? Why do we want more of that??
@funkyflights I'd still contact a lawyer if it were me to get this deal negotiated. I'd tell them they'd better take what they can get or I would declare bankruptcy so they wouldn't get jack. That is stupidity to charge interest if it could cause the patient to declare bankruptcy. That means the hospital doesn't get anything. That is also why health savings accounts could help eliminate this. It would allow patients the opportunity to seek out prices for procedures to avoid this lunacy.
ALan Grayson said Under The Republican Plan, ‘Don’t Get Sick’ (Or You Might Have To ‘Die Quickly’). I always mention to my friends at work that frase but there so many
ignorant an ultra selfish individualism of US that don't care if your healthy neighbor got sick suddenly and loose everything and with goes your son friends, because when
a fathers loose a house house you also loose your son's friend. That's life people I don't like mandate, but but need to eliminate fro profit health system, health care
is a human right nor a luxury not a heartless cruel business.
@rjmacc
My brother is a government worker.... He's a cop... and he makes over 100,000 dollars a year.... NO reason doctors can't do the same but make much more... And this is not about responsibility when your discriminated against because you have a pre existing condition.... WHY don't you get that ? I"m confused on how that always seems to pass over your head... Private insurance discriminates because that's the model there run off... AVOID sick people.... GREAT health care model!!
@funkyflights when you FORCE all to buy a policy or fines are imposed by the IRS that is socailism.
Lets facistly force every body to pay for health care.
*Erupts in applause* dude's got balls.
Alan Grayson is a national treasure. I hope he runs again. As for the constitutionality of mandated health care, our founding fathers thought it was fine. Type in Rick Ungar Forbes Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798 - youtube won't let me post the link for some reason.