*UPDATE: THE COINS HAVE BEEN FIXED!!!* RobTop saw my video and just updated Geometry Dash SubZero, fixing EVERY SINGLE coin that I complained about!! I'll probably have to make a follow up video, omg he's an actual gamedev LEGEND (edit: follow up vid - th-cam.com/video/xnHhinqvkO8/w-d-xo.html) Press Start 1 - Glow is brighter Press Start 2 - Coin is always visible Press Start 3 - No change(?) Nock Em 1 - Pillar has a different color Nock Em 2 - Key recolored and moved down (nerf) Nock Em 3 - Dotted line added to the wall, added an additional saw challenge (buff) Power Trip 1 - Complete rework, the coin path opens up and is harder to exit Power Trip 2 - Complete rework, hidden orbs reveal a boost to get the coin Power Trip 3 - Is now granted immediately instead of at the end of the level You can find pictures and videos of all the new coins here: twitter.com/TheRealGDColon/status/1546726467710717952
Honestly, I agree entirely with the points made in this video; the secret coins could have been placed much better in Subzero's levels. I had to look that up to know where the secret coins were, which isn't something I would frequently do. I hope these mistakes aren't in the new 2.2 official levels.
The first Nock Em coin is something you'd find in the average New Super Mario Bros U level. Please stop replying the coins have been fixed and frankly I don't even care anymore
I agree with this. When I first played GD Subzero, I was very bad at the game and these coins were a struggle to find and collect. I feel like it wasn't friendly to newer players. Great Video!
never have i ever thought a video about you practically screaming over golden collectible circles in a cube game would be so interesting but here we are
I imagine that spinoffs like subzero, meltdown, and world would be a lot of players first experiences with geometry dash, so having these coins be as non accessible as they are is even more infuriating than it would be in the normal game honestly.
YES! I’m so glad I’m not the only one annoyed by the coins in Subzero! Hopefully the coins in the 2.2 levels are better, but I didn’t even consider that the might not be until you mentioned it...
im SO glad that somebody has finally spoken up about coins. i feel like people really struggle with coin routes since they are either completely unknown to the player or just really easy. it should provide a little extra challenge. fully agree with these points, super glad to see this. thank you for talking about this lol
gonna stream myself on day 1 of 2.2 running into every wall in Explorers and Dash until I find the coins honestly smth abt this video just really gives off that classic GD youtube era like 2017-2019 and i like it a lot, super solid video bro
This video is not only good in explaining the problems in the GD SubZero coins, but it’s good to teach creators on how to properly use coins to make the levels slightly challenging
I watched this video for the first time when I was in the hospital, my parents let me watch TH-cam because I was in a bed, laying there for hours and you entertained me, you're the reason that I wasn't bored so big thanks to Colon ❤ If you want to see what happened to me click below. I kept throwing up, I felt like I couldn't eat or drink anything and I had a rash
This actually does make me think about coin placements and game design with collectibles as a whole. Very inspiring, I’ll see what I can do with it. Thank you for the insight
as a level creator, i usually use those tips into consideration for myself, like how in one of my levels there's a part where you go through a wave section and i put question marks in the indents of some structures within reach and going into those indents will make the entire structure glow, there are 5 of these throughout the wave part and all of them are literally impossible to miss
The first coin in Nock Em has a visual indicator, actually! Did you notice those sparkles on the spikes? Don't worry, I didn't either. But! There's a Sparkle that is just a wee bit too high, and a little greenish, and only appears 2 jumps before you miss it. Very visually obvious and easy to catch.
Yeah there is one sparkle next the the wall, one tiny sparkle, all the other spikes are sparkling so the only thing that gives it away is one tiny sparkle and with everything else going on in the level, how are you gonna notice it?
IMO keys should only be used when the key opens an additional challenge to get the coin, instead of just spawning the coin or opening a wall with the coin inside.
even though subzero shows the cool features for 2.2, i think it’s a big downgrade compared to the rest of the games, because the levels don’t really flow like the rest of the levels, especially the coins. also the jokes in this video were absolute gold, props to you man
3:37 Fun fact: I actually found this coin by accidentally missing the 2nd orb and I thought I was gonna die but I instinctively just spammed and I got the coin.
I feel like this is the video where he screams the most. That doesn't mean I disagree with hidden coins being so bad like, seriously, I can't wait to see where they hid the 2.2 new coins.
i actually think the 2nd press start coin is not bad. the platform layout looks pretty promising as an alternative route and it wouldnt be an uncommon thought to try skipping the second orb to get a new route, even if you could crash from it
I've never really sat down and thought about the secret coins in GD. They've always been something that's there, with little impact on the game for me. Sure you collect them to unlock RobTop demons, but you only need 30 out of the 149 present and you could potentially get all of them from Map Packs if you feel like torturing yourself. My favourite secret coins have always been the ones that require something small to get, like the first coin in Electroman or the second coin in Geometrical. So comparing that type of design to the Sub Zero coins, yeah, they aren't designed the best. What's weird about the coins where you smash yourself into a wall to get them is that they were already done perfectly fine in Meltdown. Viking Arena's second coin is just falling in a particular spot, but it's different in that you have a visual indicator on where you're meant to fall with a slightly transparent platform that juts out of the wall. So why not do that exact same thing in Sub Zero? Ultimately I think Sub Zero was designed with the levels first and then Rob suddenly remembered he had to put in secret coins, so threw them in in like 5 minutes, verified that they worked (somewhat) and then sent the games. It would certainly explain why most of them aren't well designed or why Power Trip's second coin is bugged on iOS. Maybe the game itself was rushed out, to meet an arbitrary deadline set by Rob. That would explain why Power Trip feels so empty and why the coins are like that. I do hope the secret coins in 2.2 are in better spots, but judging by the Sneak Peek we got where there's an unnecessary gravity change portal with no secret coin in sight, I'm not too confident that Rob has actually improved his coin placement. Here's to hoping though. UPDATE: While I think the new coins are better, my issues with Power Trip's first and second coin have changed from "It's just smashing yourself into a wall" to "It feels like you're playing an early 2.0 level with constantly moving platforms and invisible orbs."
@@Tornnnado i got really anoyed playing them because i needed coins for deadlocked and was always a level short where i got stuck on before completing the map pack and hat to pur in hours of attempts... :( (Also im not so good at gd. I need about 1-2k attempts for robtops insane levels)
Just gonna say, love the PNGtu- i mean the totally not related to anything talk sprites. They add a level of personification to the video almost unimaginable. altough some more angry/indignated sprites would help set the feel a bit better
yeah it's something we'll work on. it's a touch task to make so many drawing but we can probably modify some existing ones to get a wider range of emotions
@@GDColon i think as long as you can get the arm, torso and head sprites separated from one another you can easily modify them to create a bunch of new ones
I'd argue the retro coin sound effect adds a lot more of a hint to the whereabouts of the first coin in Press Start, and then with the missing spikes it's both hidden well and easy to find after having a think or playing in practice mode to search manually
At the first glance I thought this is just a useless hot take on mere secret coins, but this was so well-explained and actually MAKES SENSE, and the fact that this video also gives tips for the other creators on how to create coin routes at the same time. This video is so based, so is Colon.
Ngl I played subzero a few days after it came out and played press start as my first ever gd level. My friend recommended gd subzero as the "best geometry dash" to me. About a week later I found out about the full game and the fact that harder difficulties existed. he doesn't play anymore and My stats have slowly climbed above his. Now I have way better stats and over 10 more demons than him. I looked up to him like he was the best player in the game. I'm hoping one day he cones back.
@@sleepynet13 he's in Europe (I've moved back to the U.S ) and we've just lost touch I still occasionally send him a message on gd just in case. I got a response one time but that was a while ago
The first coin of Nock em already has a strange but tiny indicator, you could see it in the left of the coin wall that it has a shine effect, not all of the walls have it tho.
it does have a shine indicator, but pretty much all the spikes have that same shine effect so that halves the little effectivity this hint ever had in the first place
"I'm comfortable with ANYTHING so long as it's not hidden behind a wall or something stupid like that" ... "✨" [funni kitsune man rage] 3 minutes later "No. NO. Do NOT tell me you fall through this wall..." [funni kitsune man has BIG rage]
Interesting, I was wondering about this a few days ago when I noticed the amount of coins I had in Subzero, compared to the other GD versions. I clearly remember at some point trying to completely cluelessly find the missing coins in practice mode by crashing against every obstacle I could and just randomly finding coins like that. After a while I just gave up on them x’)
Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. IMO the last coin in Power Trip is the worst. It's just so cryptic and no other coin works like that at all. I also think the transition before the 2nd Nock 'Em coin makes it especially annoying. Maybe I just suck at it but I feel like it's harder than any of the official coins. I agree that overall SubZero is really good though
OKAY okayokayokay. i've seen you use undertale, omori, celeste and even necrodancer's music. but RHYTHM DOCTOR???? i was gonna joke that you looked into my favorite songs to choose the music for your videos, but rhythm doctor is just WILD the perplexity is getting overshadowed by fear now. help edit: just heard a hat in time now. are you following me?
A little glitch that i found: When i was collecting the first coin in Press Start i think i did a pixel perfect noclip strat and fell through the ground in the coin area and then crashed behind a tiny spike.
Nock Em 3 DOES have a visual indicator, but you need to be PIXEL HUNTING to see it. There's a very slight loss in glow associated with using fake blocks. That's it. That's the indicator.
wow i actually didn't notice. i just looked and saw that its also VERY slightly darkened where you enter, but its so hard to notice in gameplay so W H A T S T H E P O I N T
I just noticed that the Third coin in Nock Em actually has a little visual giveaway! Before you get reversed the last pillar has 3 little glowing tiles on the ground (you can see them if you stop the video on 7:23), but they disappear after you enter the reversed state! They're also the only tiles to appear there so i guess that helps to notice it? But im not the one to judge if its a good giveaway or not. Anyways, Awesome video Colon, Keep up the good work.
I think it's a good coin, I even touched on it in the video. (0:31) You're likely going to miss the coin on your first attempt, but even if you miss the coin you can still SEE it hanging up there. So it's pretty easy to conclude that there must be a hidden orb, or at the very least some kind of path. By letting the player know when they've missed the coin, it encourages experimentation and coming up with your own creative ideas. A lot of the coins in SubZero would be okay if the coin was visible, but for some reason Rob decided to keep them hidden until you find them.
6:43 Here's my opinion: The Key has a smaller hitbox than the coin, so, to make it even mote challenging, RobTop took the key... or because you can't access deadlocked without buying the game and he still wanted that to be shown to the world ... well there are many possibilities why that has been done anyways
It actually seems like they have taken his advice! During the second coin on press start it’s now visible, and the first coin on Nock em, there’s a red dot on that platform to signify it’s different. That’s all I’ve seen so far
2:42 Absolutely amazing background music usage, sets the atmosphere really well. Keep using good music in your videos please, really makes the viewing quality better if you know where the music comes from. I really like your editing style in general, especially the funny expressions that your OC makes, keep it up!
I think the reason the coins aren't the best in Subzero is that they're not really the point of the game. It was simply to showcase the many features that 2.2 will have to offer.
THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!!! Okay so let me explain, I was too confused why I got the second coin in power trip but it doesn’t reward me with the second coin itself and I was **confused screaming** at that point. And yes, I am getting ideas on where to put coins in my future levels. I’ll use advice someone gave to someone else! :D
I'm making a game (not a geometry dash level), and adding collectibles for rewards from an npc, and this was pretty helpful. So, this is mostly universal for game design.
I remember that the last coin in power trip was painful to find because I reset level every time I didn't find the coin at almost the end of the level in practice mode until I tested to click randomly 💀
The second coin in power trip was updated a while ago, if that makes it better. Now you have to click an invisible orb that eventually reveals a second one that helps you get the coin.
Colon: im comfortable with anything as long it isn’t hidden behind a wall or something stupid like that **coin shows up inside the wall** Colon: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! Edit: its at 7:21
I don’t really get why Colon is so cynical about all of this, not on the ranking as I agree with everything, but that he thinks that the placement for secret coins are doomed? Subzero was rushed, 2.2 isn’t (for better or for worst) he’s always put more care into the main levels than he does side game levels
What I interpreted this as was that if RobTop can make coins that bad in Subzero, who knows how bad nowadays creators can make coins, especially with all of the new stuff coming in 2.2
@@samuelding7854 I agree, but user coins in custom levels have always been either they’re too hard to get, too easy to get, or rarely are just the right amount of challenge
@@Axidcat7 i dont wanna be that person but… i’m gonna be that person. It’s actually the opposite process, cellular respiration or the breaking down of glucose. Photosynthesis yields glucose and oxygen whereas cellular respiration yields CO2 and H2O which comes out in breath. sorry
No joke, when I first played Knock Em, I thought that platform hiding the first coin would be a good place to hide a coin, so I jumped into it. That was three only coin on Subzero that I figured out myself lol.
8:23 - For some reason I thought I actually felt a small breeze of wind on this part. Also you explained the problems well, and I agree with this video.
@@lucykhan136 Rob saw this video and agreed the coins were bad, he even went back and fixed them. Even after all of that, he made the coins in Dash cancer.
What I think makes a secret coin in GD is kind of secret paths. It's dependent on how visible it is, how well it is hidden, and how difficult the path is.
i know it's been two years since the release of this video, and a few people are gonna rewatch it. I just wanted to point out an easter egg. If you activate subtitles at around 1:20 (the moment where he breathes) you find the equation of a chemical reaction
i love the new pngtuber bits! nice little things to fill in just the blank void i would say, maybe try to have a little more expressions, or use them differently, at times it didn't feel like the right one was being used cool video tho, keep up the awesome work
I am shocked that this video is going good so far. Nearly at 45,000 Likes and over 1.1M Views. That is amazing right there!! Thank you so much GD Colon for the Coin Problem video Part 1. I was watching this and the coins in SubZero were not a challenge at all. I would speed run that game and get all the coins in one go. With practice. That is how bad the coin placements are in this game. But, that was the old version and now I am going to watch Part 2 of this video GD Colon. Keep up the good work and Congratulations on reaching almost 375,000 Subscribers.
On iOS, when u playing Power Trip, sometimes the text at 46% doesn’t show and u can’t complete third coin. But I REALLY HATE second coin because it’s IMPOSSIBLE to complete it on iOS
Agreed.
No way the legend himself replied ( don't roast me please ).
RobTopGames
Nah
Rob I know you're updating all the free games, there's still time to go back and rethink your choices
@@GDColon Vanilla Milk
*UPDATE: THE COINS HAVE BEEN FIXED!!!*
RobTop saw my video and just updated Geometry Dash SubZero, fixing EVERY SINGLE coin that I complained about!! I'll probably have to make a follow up video, omg he's an actual gamedev LEGEND
(edit: follow up vid - th-cam.com/video/xnHhinqvkO8/w-d-xo.html)
Press Start 1 - Glow is brighter
Press Start 2 - Coin is always visible
Press Start 3 - No change(?)
Nock Em 1 - Pillar has a different color
Nock Em 2 - Key recolored and moved down (nerf)
Nock Em 3 - Dotted line added to the wall, added an additional saw challenge (buff)
Power Trip 1 - Complete rework, the coin path opens up and is harder to exit
Power Trip 2 - Complete rework, hidden orbs reveal a boost to get the coin
Power Trip 3 - Is now granted immediately instead of at the end of the level
You can find pictures and videos of all the new coins here: twitter.com/TheRealGDColon/status/1546726467710717952
Poggers.
Poggers.
Poggers.
Poggers.
Poggers.
remember - if you have to use youtube to look up a coin, it's bad. especially since most people are gonna watch advy's videos for coin help.
Real
What if we go to advy's house, take his PC, put it in a box, ship it to Alaska, and then pee on it
so can't let go 1st coin in a nutshell?
@@muffin1927 and then the pee will freeze
what about rafer's coins
Imagine when he sees the last two coins on Dash💀💀
Yeah, the 2nd one is ok, but the first and last is just crazy 💀
@@AceOfSpades13542 FR
The first and second are good but why do you have to click 6 times for it to
The first is decent, the second is good, the third is…
Beat it with all coins lol
Honestly, I agree entirely with the points made in this video; the secret coins could have been placed much better in Subzero's levels. I had to look that up to know where the secret coins were, which isn't something I would frequently do. I hope these mistakes aren't in the new 2.2 official levels.
Honestly I think they’re alright. It’s really not a big deal since I’ll look up how to do all of them anyway lol
I didn't even know Subzero's levels have coins
"quick" level rebuild from robtop rn
@Chao5 Ma5ter The problem I have is it feels like no skill is required to get these secret coins, not how hard they are to find.
@Chao5 Ma5ter It was never about how hard they were to find.
The first Nock Em coin is something you'd find in the average New Super Mario Bros U level.
Please stop replying the coins have been fixed and frankly I don't even care anymore
lol
as if we never knew *skull face*
Yep, this is true
AT LEAST YOU'D SEE A LITTLE DENT IN THE WALL IN NSMBU
AAAGGHHH
yes
The fact that RobTop actually saw this and UPDATED THE COINS is such a flex
Bro they made it impossible to get the second coin on power trip on the iPad 9th generation
@@ethandeadpool9005 the timing is just really really weird
@@ethandeadpool9005 You have to click it late
@@ethandeadpool9005 just hold the screen and u get it
flexer.
Colon: Deadlocked is the first level to use a key
The seven seas: you didn't have to cut me off
I agree with this. When I first played GD Subzero, I was very bad at the game and these coins were a struggle to find and collect. I feel like it wasn't friendly to newer players. Great Video!
Exactly!! SubZero is meant to be a game for new players who haven't bought the full version, so the coins are really mean
@@GDColon I think the lite version is for that, subzero is meant for players to try out the 2.2 functions
Yeah I barely got the coins for nock em out because there is no HINT on where the COIN ARE!
@@GDColon i don t think beginners can handle this one
No, it wasn't made to show the game to new players it was to train them for bad custom levels.
never have i ever thought a video about you practically screaming over golden collectible circles in a cube game would be so interesting but here we are
reported, blocked, exterminated, grammar police come take a look at this
@@kaderen8461 *egypt moment*
the cube here is a square
@@fluffycookie2056 thats yemen
@@kryane99 close enough
“This isn’t some kids secret minecraft base” Best quote of the video change my mind
I agree
I actually burst out laughing at this part
@@AmazingRofa stop self promo
did you like my base though 🥺
@@GDColon wait the “kid’s secret Minecraft base” was *YOURS?*
Favorite part of the video:
11:15
"Maybe the next thing you should work out is better places to put these STUPID YELLOW CIRCLES"
...I died laughing.
(hyperventilating)
@@DigitalAJ12318
"Oh yeah, and if you're playing on iOS, you can't even get this coin,
Ha ha ha ha ha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This video actually makes me change my opinion of Polargeist’s third coin.
or Clutterfunk's third coin which is impossible to find by yourself unless you accidentally miss an orb
@@randomannoyance where even is it
@@ZaidoonTheGolden miss the yellow orb at 85% then jump over te saws and you will get the coin
@@randomannoyance Or theory of everything's last coin
or like a lot of the coins in the main levels tbh
Well, that one had a blue pad you could see. It was just overly hard.
I imagine that spinoffs like subzero, meltdown, and world would be a lot of players first experiences with geometry dash, so having these coins be as non accessible as they are is even more infuriating than it would be in the normal game honestly.
th-cam.com/video/1_zoXkJPIxA/w-d-xo.html
Uhh that’s the whole point of the video?
@@Whiskers--5 Uhh that's the whole point of the comment?
@@aykarain Uhh what’s the whole point of this comment
YES! I’m so glad I’m not the only one annoyed by the coins in Subzero! Hopefully the coins in the 2.2 levels are better, but I didn’t even consider that the might not be until you mentioned it...
th-cam.com/video/1_zoXkJPIxA/w-d-xo.html
For the two people wondering what the chemical formula at 1:15 is. It's the chemical formula for cellular respiration. (Its in the subtitles)
He forgot the 30 adenosinetriphosphate
also the equation is thermodynamically inadequate. Must've also added the states of the substances
(thermodynamix reference)
im SO glad that somebody has finally spoken up about coins. i feel like people really struggle with coin routes since they are either completely unknown to the player or just really easy. it should provide a little extra challenge. fully agree with these points, super glad to see this.
thank you for talking about this lol
o7
Double 07
@@GDColon o7
o7
Two 07s, double 07
gonna stream myself on day 1 of 2.2 running into every wall in Explorers and Dash until I find the coins
honestly smth abt this video just really gives off that classic GD youtube era like 2017-2019 and i like it a lot, super solid video bro
Sdslayer lol
Lol sdslayer
when 2.21 releases remember to run into every wall of explorers
@@had0j ok
5 Stages of grief:
2:08 Denial
5:12 Anger
8:12 Bargaining
10:20 Depression
14:05 Acceptance
WHAT.
legit
you forgot 12:45 POP AND LOCK (sorry i had to do it)
10:24
THATS MORE THAN HALF OF THE COINS IN THE GAME
7:27 Therapy session
2:08 Coming back to this video in 2.2… Colon had a good reason to be worried lol
Truly a prophesier.
explorers is gonna have scary coins
ummmmm...... yeah I agree, but only for the tower coins
@@gwenavery5899 cough cough coins 1 and 3 in dash cough cough
@@ariell6849 Coin 1 in Dash was decent. Coin 3 on the other hand…
I guess Rob’s following in the footsteps of the community and making every single damn coin a chore to get. 2.2 is gonna be great.
th-cam.com/video/1_zoXkJPIxA/w-d-xo.html
firebird be like
Alpha:
Group 70: coins
Fadetime: 0.0
opacity: 0.0
slam ._.
they literally require less clicks
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:07 How coins should look
1:01 Colon
1:17 GDSubZero Introduction
2:25 Press Start 1st coin
3:27 Press Start 2nd coin
4:29 Press Start 3rd coin
4:55 Nock 'Em 1st coin
5:53 Nock 'Em 2nd coin
7:14 Nock 'Em 3rd coin
8:28 Power Trip 1st coin
9:46 Power Trip 2nd coin a.k.a 2nd 1st coin
11:53 Power Trip 3rd coin
12:59 Conclusion
14:12 End
why
@@wmp. idk im bored
thanks very useful :)
Another one
0:00 Colon rage
Video finally starts at 2 minutes into the video
This video is not only good in explaining the problems in the GD SubZero coins, but it’s good to teach creators on how to properly use coins to make the levels slightly challenging
Did i hear jump at the very start to pickup a coin but if you press the restart button on death you literally cannot get it?
@Dont Check My About Page Link no
serpents wrath has the best coin route of all time
@Dont Check My About Page Link you’re supposed to say “don’t check my name”
Is my level good?
81688827
I watched this video for the first time when I was in the hospital, my parents let me watch TH-cam because I was in a bed, laying there for hours and you entertained me, you're the reason that I wasn't bored so big thanks to Colon ❤
If you want to see what happened to me click below.
I kept throwing up, I felt like I couldn't eat or drink anything and I had a rash
8:09 “I’m looking for a coin that’s fun, *BUT INSTEAD YOU GIVE ME PLATFORM 9¾!”*
lol
i love this
Best line ever
Harry Potter reference
Also that's 2/4 not 3/4.
This actually does make me think about coin placements and game design with collectibles as a whole. Very inspiring, I’ll see what I can do with it. Thank you for the insight
Agreed
Colon is actually such a good geometry dash youtuber. Like I could watch these for hours haha
Y e s.
Can't agree more
It do be true tho
who are you
@@KeaneJ123 treu
4:22 “how about we just make it materialize into existence instead?” Got me dying fr ff
9:32 I have never seen something this incredibly cursed in my entire life
Noclip momement
as a level creator, i usually use those tips into consideration for myself, like how in one of my levels there's a part where you go through a wave section and i put question marks in the indents of some structures within reach and going into those indents will make the entire structure glow, there are 5 of these throughout the wave part and all of them are literally impossible to miss
The first coin in Nock Em has a visual indicator, actually! Did you notice those sparkles on the spikes? Don't worry, I didn't either. But! There's a Sparkle that is just a wee bit too high, and a little greenish, and only appears 2 jumps before you miss it. Very visually obvious and easy to catch.
th-cam.com/video/1_zoXkJPIxA/w-d-xo.html
Idk about easy to catch but I do see it
Yeah there is one sparkle next the the wall, one tiny sparkle, all the other spikes are sparkling so the only thing that gives it away is one tiny sparkle and with everything else going on in the level, how are you gonna notice it?
@@Kyjack1556 sarcasm
@@ziwuri can’t believe I did not notice that :/
how ironic that i got an advert for gd before watching this
I have never seen a man be so passionate and critical about penny organization until now
good video as always colon!
They are golden and I believe Quarters used to be just nickels painted gold so...
Not penny's. Quarters
@@bloodlust_9890 who asked?
@@gabelee417 definitely not the person who wanted you to say this
IMO keys should only be used when the key opens an additional challenge to get the coin, instead of just spawning the coin or opening a wall with the coin inside.
thanks
@@divisionn6380 yes, we should be thankful.
@@divisionn6380your welcome
Exactly! Imagine a key and then a bonus challenge like the 3rd stereo madness coin
But what if it's already a challenge to get the key?
even though subzero shows the cool features for 2.2, i think it’s a big downgrade compared to the rest of the games, because the levels don’t really flow like the rest of the levels, especially the coins.
also the jokes in this video were absolute gold, props to you man
thank you!!
@@GDColon do you know 5ta1ker? their coins are impossible xd
@@EXA1024_ also kr1t
@@GDColon hi
3:37 Fun fact: I actually found this coin by accidentally missing the 2nd orb and I thought I was gonna die but I instinctively just spammed and I got the coin.
I feel like this is the video where he screams the most.
That doesn't mean I disagree with hidden coins being so bad like, seriously, I can't wait to see where they hid the 2.2 new coins.
i actually think the 2nd press start coin is not bad. the platform layout looks pretty promising as an alternative route and it wouldnt be an uncommon thought to try skipping the second orb to get a new route, even if you could crash from it
Completely agree
I've never really sat down and thought about the secret coins in GD. They've always been something that's there, with little impact on the game for me. Sure you collect them to unlock RobTop demons, but you only need 30 out of the 149 present and you could potentially get all of them from Map Packs if you feel like torturing yourself.
My favourite secret coins have always been the ones that require something small to get, like the first coin in Electroman or the second coin in Geometrical. So comparing that type of design to the Sub Zero coins, yeah, they aren't designed the best.
What's weird about the coins where you smash yourself into a wall to get them is that they were already done perfectly fine in Meltdown. Viking Arena's second coin is just falling in a particular spot, but it's different in that you have a visual indicator on where you're meant to fall with a slightly transparent platform that juts out of the wall. So why not do that exact same thing in Sub Zero?
Ultimately I think Sub Zero was designed with the levels first and then Rob suddenly remembered he had to put in secret coins, so threw them in in like 5 minutes, verified that they worked (somewhat) and then sent the games. It would certainly explain why most of them aren't well designed or why Power Trip's second coin is bugged on iOS. Maybe the game itself was rushed out, to meet an arbitrary deadline set by Rob. That would explain why Power Trip feels so empty and why the coins are like that.
I do hope the secret coins in 2.2 are in better spots, but judging by the Sneak Peek we got where there's an unnecessary gravity change portal with no secret coin in sight, I'm not too confident that Rob has actually improved his coin placement. Here's to hoping though.
UPDATE: While I think the new coins are better, my issues with Power Trip's first and second coin have changed from "It's just smashing yourself into a wall" to "It feels like you're playing an early 2.0 level with constantly moving platforms and invisible orbs."
I wouldn't call the map packs torture. They were pretty fun, all things considered.
@@Tornnnado Shhhh. People will call you a maniac for having an unpopular opinion.
@@Tornnnado MANIAC
@@Tornnnado i got really anoyed playing them because i needed coins for deadlocked and was always a level short where i got stuck on before completing the map pack and hat to pur in hours of attempts... :(
(Also im not so good at gd. I need about 1-2k attempts for robtops insane levels)
Damn this guy wrote a whole pharagraph about gd coins
“I’m looking for a coin that’s fun, but instead you give me Platform 9 and 3/4”
One of the greatest GD quotes I’ve ever heard
Time for Colon to fulfill his promise,Im hyped for the tier list!
Me too
Same.
guten news
The thumping sound Colon made at 10:22 might've been done to sync with the music. It is done right when the song would normally make the second thump.
what about 3:25
@HaxOfHF HALF OF THE COINS
*perfectly switches to the next level*
IN THE *GAME!!!*
*same thing*
@@intraced That's part of the song itself, that wasn't edited
@@davinchristinohe meant the boom
THÃTS MŒRE THËN HÀLF ÒF THĒ GÆMĘ
Just gonna say, love the PNGtu- i mean the totally not related to anything talk sprites. They add a level of personification to the video almost unimaginable. altough some more angry/indignated sprites would help set the feel a bit better
yeah it's something we'll work on. it's a touch task to make so many drawing but we can probably modify some existing ones to get a wider range of emotions
rip colon icon for talking bits
@@pizzaburger21 true true
@@AmazingRofa bro wtf
@@GDColon i think as long as you can get the arm, torso and head sprites separated from one another you can easily modify them to create a bunch of new ones
I'd argue the retro coin sound effect adds a lot more of a hint to the whereabouts of the first coin in Press Start, and then with the missing spikes it's both hidden well and easy to find after having a think or playing in practice mode to search manually
At the first glance I thought this is just a useless hot take on mere secret coins, but this was so well-explained and actually MAKES SENSE, and the fact that this video also gives tips for the other creators on how to create coin routes at the same time. This video is so based, so is Colon.
Crazy cuz robtop actually saw this and updated the coins 💀💀💀
11:20 mom look I made it into a GD Colon video
:)
Your famous now
Ngl I played subzero a few days after it came out and played press start as my first ever gd level. My friend recommended gd subzero as the "best geometry dash" to me. About a week later I found out about the full game and the fact that harder difficulties existed. he doesn't play anymore and My stats have slowly climbed above his. Now I have way better stats and over 10 more demons than him. I looked up to him like he was the best player in the game. I'm hoping one day he cones back.
same
hope he cones back!
@@use2l same i really hope he cones back too
@@sleepynet13 he's in Europe (I've moved back to the U.S ) and we've just lost touch I still occasionally send him a message on gd just in case. I got a response one time but that was a while ago
11:02 turns out that’s where they actually put the coin in Dash
The first coin of Nock em already has a strange but tiny indicator, you could see it in the left of the coin wall that it has a shine effect, not all of the walls have it tho.
The spider coin where you go in the wall also has a tiny indicator
@@Xnoob545 yeah, but DUDE, that missing glow is gonna be hard to find
@@cryonitric true
it does have a shine indicator, but pretty much all the spikes have that same shine effect so that halves the little effectivity this hint ever had in the first place
Here's the thing tho
I've had SubZero for years and only noticed that after you pointed it out
This was absolutely hilarious and informational at the same time.
1:19
Colon: Breathes in
The subtitles: *_The chemical formula for cellular respiration_*
Lmao
Loved that specific detail lmaoooo
c6h12o6 + 6o2 → 6co2 + 6h2o
it's cellular respiration hahahahah
@@jiancarlomaurillo3492 respiration and breathing are the same word in Turkish sorry
"I'm comfortable with ANYTHING so long as it's not hidden behind a wall or something stupid like that"
... "✨"
[funni kitsune man rage]
3 minutes later
"No. NO. Do NOT tell me you fall through this wall..."
[funni kitsune man has BIG rage]
Interesting, I was wondering about this a few days ago when I noticed the amount of coins I had in Subzero, compared to the other GD versions. I clearly remember at some point trying to completely cluelessly find the missing coins in practice mode by crashing against every obstacle I could and just randomly finding coins like that. After a while I just gave up on them x’)
“Instead you give me platform 9 3/4” gotta be the best line in this video
its a harry poter reference lol
definitely
@@virturegd5247 ik
Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. IMO the last coin in Power Trip is the worst. It's just so cryptic and no other coin works like that at all. I also think the transition before the 2nd Nock 'Em coin makes it especially annoying. Maybe I just suck at it but I feel like it's harder than any of the official coins. I agree that overall SubZero is really good though
polargeist still hardest coin the 3rd coin
@@b48292 dude wtf are u talking about
It's because of the annoying yellow pad
OKAY okayokayokay.
i've seen you use undertale, omori, celeste and even necrodancer's music. but RHYTHM DOCTOR???? i was gonna joke that you looked into my favorite songs to choose the music for your videos, but rhythm doctor is just WILD
the perplexity is getting overshadowed by fear now. help
edit: just heard a hat in time now. are you following me?
A little glitch that i found:
When i was collecting the first coin in Press Start i think i did a pixel perfect noclip strat and fell through the ground in the coin area and then crashed behind a tiny spike.
me too
Same
same thing happened to me
Same
Same
Nock Em 3 DOES have a visual indicator, but you need to be PIXEL HUNTING to see it. There's a very slight loss in glow associated with using fake blocks. That's it. That's the indicator.
wow i actually didn't notice. i just looked and saw that its also VERY slightly darkened where you enter, but its so hard to notice in gameplay so W H A T S T H E P O I N T
11:33 buying an android phone to finally obtain the second power trip coin sounds worth it
especially since the cheapest ones are SO CHEAP
And even better then you'll have an android
"AGGHKJGDKGDFK8GIOSJDG we're at the beginning of Nock Em oh my god" got me rolling on the floor .
3:22 I NEVER KNEW THAT THAT IS SO COOL
The animated version of you looks pretty good 👍
(I also like the Celeste sound effect at 7:26 :D)
I can tell that with the avatar you kinda put more emotion and care into ur vids, so that's cool! Just a thing I noticed
and a heart from my favorite youtuber/gd player of all time, this is a W for mankind
@I'mTrashAtVideoGames idk
I have rewatched this video 15 times, and I still love it!
I never actually knew why the 2nd coin was never collectible on iOS and now I know thanks to this.
The more you know!
@@GDColon and learning is half the battle
I was actually confused why I didn’t get the 2nd coin, but know I know!
8:00 this is one of the most well made example in HISTORY.
This was an incredible style and I enjoyed this video more than other videos on the channel. Thanks and Keep up the good work Colon!
same opinion here!
Wow, thanks robtop for the first person to make another way for GD colon's amazing content
I just noticed that the Third coin in Nock Em actually has a little visual giveaway! Before you get reversed the last pillar has 3 little glowing tiles on the ground (you can see them if you stop the video on 7:23), but they disappear after you enter the reversed state! They're also the only tiles to appear there so i guess that helps to notice it? But im not the one to judge if its a good giveaway or not. Anyways, Awesome video Colon, Keep up the good work.
that's probably just a mistake(?)
Wat how did you notice that?
@@GDColon WHERES THE TIER LIST
WHERE THE F*CK DİD YOU SEE THAT?
the worst coin in all of geometry dash's spinoffs is obviously the last coin in airborne robots though
Agreed
Yes
I think it's a good coin, I even touched on it in the video. (0:31)
You're likely going to miss the coin on your first attempt, but even if you miss the coin you can still SEE it hanging up there. So it's pretty easy to conclude that there must be a hidden orb, or at the very least some kind of path. By letting the player know when they've missed the coin, it encourages experimentation and coming up with your own creative ideas. A lot of the coins in SubZero would be okay if the coin was visible, but for some reason Rob decided to keep them hidden until you find them.
@@GDColon but if you mess up once you have to wait till the end of the level to try again
I would disagree; there is an indicator of the invisible orb being there, the white circle thing that appears when you can use the invisible jump orb.
6:43 Here's my opinion: The Key has a smaller hitbox than the coin, so, to make it even mote challenging, RobTop took the key... or because you can't access deadlocked without buying the game and he still wanted that to be shown to the world ... well there are many possibilities why that has been done anyways
"mote"
@@notakae7089 lol
'He wanted it to be shown to the world'
Viking arena uses keys EVERYWHERE
Also he could've just shrunk the coin
After two years, I finally realized that the intro uses rhythm doctor tutorial music
I love the Celeste secret reveal sound effect at 7:26
fun fact i added at the last minute - was watching through the final product and just went "this NEEDS that one celeste sound"
@@GDColon at least celeste has little indicators
That one clip "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!" got me kinda laughing
If you look closely there no glow in the bottom 2 tiles of where you need to go through
It actually seems like they have taken his advice! During the second coin on press start it’s now visible, and the first coin on Nock em, there’s a red dot on that platform to signify it’s different. That’s all I’ve seen so far
2:42 Absolutely amazing background music usage, sets the atmosphere really well. Keep using good music in your videos please, really makes the viewing quality better if you know where the music comes from. I really like your editing style in general, especially the funny expressions that your OC makes, keep it up!
this video is going viral soon
any idea what the song is?
@@datechboi idk i think this music is from undertale
Deltarune - Scarlet Forest
What’s an oc
3:20 if you let it play for a little longer, it does the Mario pipe noise when you enter the pipe. Great video though, as always. Very entertaining
I think the reason the coins aren't the best in Subzero is that they're not really the point of the game. It was simply to showcase the many features that 2.2 will have to offer.
Coins weren’t “really the point of the game” in GD either, they were added after the game already had levels created and was released.
THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!!!
Okay so let me explain, I was too confused why I got the second coin in power trip but it doesn’t reward me with the second coin itself and I was **confused screaming** at that point.
And yes, I am getting ideas on where to put coins in my future levels. I’ll use advice someone gave to someone else! :D
yo man love your avatar, and I've been loving your content.
thanks for not being annoying about it!!
“BUT INSTED YOU GIVE ME PLATFORM NINE AND THREE QUARTERS”
I'm making a game (not a geometry dash level), and adding collectibles for rewards from an npc, and this was pretty helpful. So, this is mostly universal for game design.
Yea..
Did anyone notice at 11:44 the little faces on his shirt is angry
Just now
11:45
Oh my god
you have the eyes of an eagle
I remember that the last coin in power trip was painful to find because I reset level every time I didn't find the coin at almost the end of the level in practice mode until I tested to click randomly 💀
The second coin in power trip was updated a while ago, if that makes it better. Now you have to click an invisible orb that eventually reveals a second one that helps you get the coin.
9:43 I actually thought my WiFi was lagging 😂
Hhhhhhhahahahahahahaaaa-
True😅
Colon: im comfortable with anything as long it isn’t hidden behind a wall or something stupid like that
**coin shows up inside the wall**
Colon: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!
Edit: its at 7:21
I don’t really get why Colon is so cynical about all of this, not on the ranking as I agree with everything, but that he thinks that the placement for secret coins are doomed? Subzero was rushed, 2.2 isn’t (for better or for worst) he’s always put more care into the main levels than he does side game levels
What I interpreted this as was that if RobTop can make coins that bad in Subzero, who knows how bad nowadays creators can make coins, especially with all of the new stuff coming in 2.2
@@samuelding7854 I agree, but user coins in custom levels have always been either they’re too hard to get, too easy to get, or rarely are just the right amount of challenge
But though it's rushed, i'm pretty sure that there's a possibility that RobTop will force you to beat VSC to get a coin in 2.2
1:20 I like how Colon wrote the formula for glucose production or photosynthesis in the subtitles instead of a sigh, cool 😅
@@Axidcat7 i dont wanna be that person but… i’m gonna be that person. It’s actually the opposite process, cellular respiration or the breaking down of glucose. Photosynthesis yields glucose and oxygen whereas cellular respiration yields CO2 and H2O which comes out in breath. sorry
No joke, when I first played Knock Em, I thought that platform hiding the first coin would be a good place to hide a coin, so I jumped into it. That was three only coin on Subzero that I figured out myself lol.
I love your kitsune character in your videos, even if it did take me a minute to figure out how to phrase this without saying fursona lol
It take you minute to lie
8:23 - For some reason I thought I actually felt a small breeze of wind on this part.
Also you explained the problems well, and I agree with this video.
8:22*
Rob literally watched this video, commented that he watched it, and then still decided to make the coins in Dash even worse
This was SubZero
@@lucykhan136 Rob saw this video and agreed the coins were bad, he even went back and fixed them. Even after all of that, he made the coins in Dash cancer.
@@dormortop Batman
Am I the only one who likes the first coin in Power Trip? It's laid out there to tempt you, and provides a puzzle for where the secret is.
Same
oh hey it's you here
hii superspruce here :D back with another ordinal markup video. time to wait 3 days for bho
Your character is really cute 👀 Makes me listen to what you’re saying more instead of getting distracted
What I think makes a secret coin in GD is kind of secret paths. It's dependent on how visible it is, how well it is hidden, and how difficult the path is.
i know it's been two years since the release of this video, and a few people are gonna rewatch it. I just wanted to point out an easter egg. If you activate subtitles at around 1:20 (the moment where he breathes) you find the equation of a chemical reaction
really helps despite being my 4th replay lol
@@thecorruptedgamer3542 you really like to see colon raging 😅😅😅
i love the new pngtuber bits! nice little things to fill in just the blank void
i would say, maybe try to have a little more expressions, or use them differently, at times it didn't feel like the right one was being used
cool video tho, keep up the awesome work
Yeah it's something I'll work on, more variations in the works
nice, thx for the reply lmao
@@GDColon avatar crossing arms when?
@@ceptemzorpus NO
lol
I am shocked that this video is going good so far. Nearly at 45,000 Likes and over 1.1M Views. That is amazing right there!! Thank you so much GD Colon for the Coin Problem video Part 1. I was watching this and the coins in SubZero were not a challenge at all. I would speed run that game and get all the coins in one go. With practice. That is how bad the coin placements are in this game. But, that was the old version and now I am going to watch Part 2 of this video GD Colon. Keep up the good work and Congratulations on reaching almost 375,000 Subscribers.
Wouldn't be surprised if a coin in the main 2.2 levels has a 50% of showing up for free with the random trigger. Feels like something RobTop might do
Don’t give him any ideas
On iOS, when u playing Power Trip, sometimes the text at 46% doesn’t show and u can’t complete third coin. But I REALLY HATE second coin because it’s IMPOSSIBLE to complete it on iOS
@@cowbotofficial3049 i didn't know about the text not showing up, must really suck having that happen :/
“How do I put this… ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE!” 😂😂😂
BEST QUOTE EVER
CHANGE MY MIND IF U CAN