Audi e-tron 50 vs 55 charging compared
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Better than advertised (120 kW Peak) 👍. Great that there is a HVAC Power-Bypass while charging. This should be better in all EVs. Not only in e-Tron and Model 3. Hey Car-Manufacturers : Listen to uncle Bjørn! He knows best! Thanks for your Video.
Would love Bjorn to make a video, where he creates his ideal car, using any features from all available EVs!
Fun and Interesting to know what Bjorn's imagination craves for.
As always, very good explanation about the differences of this two Audi e-tron
Ohhh, new camera. Kicks ass!
The launch edition for 500 000 nok is actually decent equiped
e-tron 50 SUV: 499 000, - *
Standard equipment in all models:
> Adaptive air suspension
> Front heating seats
> Navigation plus
> quattro four-wheel drive
> LED headlight
> Cruise control
> Electric tailgate
> Virtual cockpit
> Front and rear parking sensor
> Heat pump, as well as extra heating for the interior and battery
Also for another 70 000 you get adaptive cruisecontrol and other goodies
Advanced Business
e-tron 50 SUV: 569 900, - *
In addition to the equipment in Launch Edition, you get:
> Advanced:
- 20 inch rims
- Contrast-lacquered wheel arches and channels
> Winter package:
- Preparing for tow attachment
- Rear side airbags
- Electrically adjustable front lumbar support
- Blank roof railing
- Assist Package Tour with Adaptive Driver Assist / Cruise Controll
- Comfort pre-air conditioning
> Audi smart phone interface
> Audi phone box
> Automatic heated and flashable, electrically adjustable and retractable exterior mirrors
> Extra dark windows at the back
> Divorce Network
> The comfort center arms
> Leather / artificial leather seats
> Ambient lighting
> Storage package
> Metallic
but remember to add backup camera:)
And for free you get:
- the worlds second worst efficient EV after a Taycan
- performance stats nowhere near what Audi promised only 3 years ag
- a bloated landship of a vehicle
- the comfort of knowing you’ve got the most flashing lights and knobs
- 4 rings that must make it a cool car right?
Better to buy a used Model X
Turn signal not included in the base model.
@@bjornnyland Is it legal to sell a car without turn signals? 😝
3:00: Heater and charging.
When charging on CC (Constant Current) part of the charge, the car communicates with the charger telling it the maximum current (in amps), this is based on what the battery can take.
When Bjørn states that the heater bypass the charger, what really is happening and s that the charger adds the current draw of the heater to the max current that the car communicates to the charger...
A very smart implementation...
Yeah, but the car also communicate that to the charger. It's only a software feature and has nothing to do with hardware. Every car can do it
But the problem is that other EVs don't do that. Except for Model 3.
@@bjornnyland Chevy Bolt/Opel Ampera-E will do this after it steps down from 150 amps (after ~55%).
@@thelondonbroiler No, the Bolt have not implemented this in the charger.
You are talking about the constant voltage (CV) part of the charge. On the CV part of the charge, the laws of physics have already implemented this feature.....
In addition, when you charge on a low C-rate due to a cold battery, the CV part vil start at a higher SOC, so the problem is greater when it's cold....
@@MichaelEricMenk I'm not sure I have any idea as to what you are talking about. Are you referring to the vehicle's onboard charger (charging with AC)? It is made fairly clear in the video, Bjørn is referring to DC charging.
Great vid. Thanks for making it short.
Good video and explanation 👍
Etron 50 is a better buy then 55 especially if you have plenty of public chargers, cant wait to see the 1000 km test, sure 55 will be faster but not by much is my guess
Final result for e-Tron 50, 1000 km within 11:55 h
@@omelvold In summer -30 min. That's it. It's ok.
What do you think about the new Ionity pricing Bjorn?
Why is it called 50 or 55? Just because it's an indication of power class. E.g these figures can be compared to an Audi A6 50 tfsi or A4 40 tdi. This method is introduced to make it easier to compare models without bothering about the type of engine.
By the way: I followed your advise and bought an Audi e-tron 50 Quattro S-line. In Holland it's called Black Edition.
It was a good advise! :-) Thanks!
Great video, Bjørn! You can always add the 2000 Euro/20000 NOK Turn Signal Pack.
Bjorn, are u able to do a new run test from 0 to 200 km/h with MC Hammer to compare with the latest power update vs a boosted awd ? I can provide the results with SMT for the boosted AWD
I’m waiting for a video to make the run @ same SoC and max discharge power, otherwise it will be irrevelant.
With the new Ionity pricing structure, you’ll need to find a new charging company 😂😂😂
Like I actually think that 50 is better deal than 55, as 55 is too expensive for its range and 50 is a good option as a second car, or only car if you dont drive for more than 200km too often, 55 cost 20k more and you only get like 60 - 70km of range more. I would rather save those 20k and rent a fossil car if I would need to take a long trip.
Pavel 49 65k eur 2nd car, wow.
@@amiddled its more like 60k, but how many times you see a women driving an expensive SUV which she mostly uses to go shopping, pick up kids and etc?
What do you mean with engine size?
Bjørn, what do you think about new Ionity prices? I guess you will stay away now?
Impressive that Etron50 keeps charging rate high almost to 90%, big difference with MX SR Raven, Tesla throttles very early, Iam not impressed of my MX SR Raven, would be interested to see 1000km challenge with SR MX.
Let's see how the Audi batteries will look like 5 years.... They will decrease the buffer until there is no buffer and then it gets interesting. But in 5 years it is not Audis problem anymore...
yo wassup bjørngang
I'd love to buy an Ioniq version "überschnell"
I think the only reason why the 50 even exists is to drop the base price below the limit for incentives in germany. My impression is that the battery is a bit to small for a car like this.
Can you test?:
Drive MC Hammer to 0% / 0 km range
Check with Scan My Tesla when it stops charging the 12 V Battery.
As for a general test it would be interesting go see how different EV‘s behave when driven below 0%.
Thanks and greetings from germany.
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Audi: We measure our "Engine Size" by how long our .... yeah... fuel cable/hose needs to be when you run out.
Looks like they made small adjustments to their display since the last time you tested an e-tron!
Seems the general rule of thumb with any ev. Charge when low to get electrons fast.
I hope you got a big package of EV stuffs.
Hi Bjørn. Have you seen the new price scheme for charging at Ionity in 2020 from February. 8.40 NOK per kw/hr instead of 80 NOK per charge. Good bye Ionity.
Only for direct charge using credit card 💳 or Ionity app.
Roaming cards stay the same (question is until when)
What's the Ionity price change going to do to you?
th-cam.com/video/08WW9r1pEEo/w-d-xo.html
Wow! the Etron has the best charging profile, amazing.
But also the highest consumption.
@@bjornnyland people who drive these don't care. Consumption is such a minor issue
@@johnchartrand5910 thats silly to even say. the better charging profile is nullified by having to stop more often and getting less miles per the amount of power you put in.
@@mannyr9225 no it's not as proven by Bjorn. Over 1000km it is the same time as a long range X
@@johnchartrand5910 I said nullified. I didn't say worse or better. That means that it shouldn't be considered a good thing. The Audi engineers just decided to put more research into charging profile than to aerodynamics and weight
With that new pricing from Ionity, the chargers will be very empty
Audi’s naming convention makes no sense for electric or ICE cars.
They didn’t make it relate to torque, power, engine displacement, or anything. It’s just random
Have you seen new IONITY pricing? 0.79€/kWh or 8.40NOK... ouch that’s gonna be painful!!!
That's ten times more expensive what i pay in Finland at home
Hmm yes indeed. Also 3 times more expensive that my electricity at home here in Belgium. Hopefully I have free juice at work :)
The 50/55 etc is how many kW the car has
www.lookers.co.uk/audi/news/new-engine-classification-on-the-audi-range
Strange that the C-rates behave differently.
Polish that e-Tron mon amie. :D
Yeah exactly. No amount of fancy knobs and buttons can cover Audi’s failure here.
Niro/Soul/Kona with e-tron 50 charging curve = perfection
👍
e-tron 50 should have 800v battery?
No.
The 50 makes no sense. Not more range as a Classic Ioniq...
@@omelvold For the moment the Ioniq is ok. But I'm looking forward to ID.Buzz 😇
Just swapped to a classic Ioniq and man I am happy. Effiency, range amd charge speed is amazing for that price tag 👍
E-Tron 90 and E-Tron 65...perhaps?
And now Ionity have gone bananas with the pricing (0.78€/kWh | kr 8.4/kWh) 🤦
50 and 55 indicate the percentage of the time the car is on the most left lane.
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