If they were priced at the original prices I would’ve bought one instead they doubled the price and sold them for the original price super early in the morning for only the earliest people
I really appreciate that you’re talking about the market and product selection. Examples from this video are when you talk about the screen and stick selection. I value your opinion a lot and adding in some analysis based on objective information takes the video to the next level in my opinion. The way you did the fan curve is also great, I’ve done the same on my PC with the GPU and CPU cooler. I selected my levels based on both noise and pitch.
It’s a shame the retail price for the lower end models are so expensive. If they were sold at that $270 price or even up to $350 they would have been extremely competitive. Really hope we can see that one day. Now we just have to see if the Loki delivers on that price and quality
@Carl Gunderson that’s definitely true but if the Loki does deliver on those lower priced models and they run well then maybe. It’s definitely a shame that there were only 100 of those intel and Mendocino air plus’s each at $270
Personally I want the switch now (specifically) for Zelda though. I already own the steam deck and play a lot of my own backlog of games on there and counting.
@@Azmodaeus49 I mean, all Switch games are technically playable on the Steam Deck through emulation. Same with Wii U, which I have tried and runs great, but dumping your own Wii U games is a bit of a hassle. I was able to dump my save data as well which was good.
@@DillonAverage98 More so that the waiting times for the games to dump lasted for a long time with “Dumpling.” But it did it’s job the first time for all of my games except for BotW, which timed out.
Ordered mine this morning. Thanks for the heads-up about the campaign, Taki! I think this system is really going to hit the sweet-spot between portability, functionality, ergonomics, quality, and value!! And if the manufacturer can nail the AyaSpace2 software--we might finally have a worthy competitor for the Steam Deck on the market!
I was really pissed about not being able to grab one at the early bird pricing of $269, especially since I already have a Deck and wanted a smaller handheld with Windows and better screen in mind for non-gaming stuff. Then I saw this review, and specifically the size comparison with the original Air... Yep, no regrets anymore 😂
Would love to see a side by side comparison with the Aya Neo 2/Geek. See games with same settings at the Plus’s 28W vs the 2/Geek’s 33W. Testing an eGPU with the Plus would be interesting as well! Anyhow, great vid! Cheers
...always love the video's, but I'm a bit confused at why you didn't have a steam deck or another higher end / cost handheld other than the Odin? The Odin is a great value for what you get, but it's not in the same league.
Ranking All My Gaming Devices I've Owned 1. PS Vita (2K model) 2. Switch Lite 3. PSP (1K model) 4. PS1 (my fav home console) 5. Dreamcast 6. PS2 7. GameCube 8. Super NES 9. Genesis 10. NES 11. PS4 12. PS3 13. Wii 14. Xbox 15. N64 16. Game Boy 17. Game Gear 18. DS 19. Game Boy Advance SP 20. Saturn 21. Jaguar Never owned the Atari 2600, 3DO, Wii U, PS5, any Amiga, any NEC, any Neo Geo, or any Xbox after the original one. If I can include smartphones, then my Flip 3 would be #1 since it can emulate Dreamcast, GameCube, and some Wii that my modded Vita can't do. But I do prefer playing retro games on a handheld. My SN30 Pro does have input lag playing NES and SNES games. How it's displayed on my Vita is also nicer since the lower resolution is closer to the games' OG resolution. For at least 10+ years, my fav was my PSP but not because of gaming. I had it since June 6, 2005 and it was my multimedia player that I traveled with. Was the first to introduce me to Wi-Fi when we were still on Wi-Fi "b" which was slow af to PS3's Wi-Fi "g". I believe my Vita slim I got since May 13, 2017 is now my favorite. It's everything the PSP was and much more. Battery life is still rock solid. And I got it second-hand like I did for my Switch Lite I barely got last October 3, 2022. I plan to buy all my gaming gadgets second-hand. I'll scour on OfferUp finding great deals. I don't buy brand new any more with my gaming stuff. I'm no collector. I'm a CHEAPASSGAMER. Once I finish a game, I rarely replay them. So I started buying them used during the PS2 days. I started doing the same for my handhelds by 2017. I'll wait to get a Steam Deck once it reaches $200 used on OfferUp. I believe it will get that low by this year. I've never spent more than $300 for a gaming device. The most expensive was that PSP phat I got for $250 ($270+ with taxes). Most of my consoles and handhelds, I got them for $200 or less. My second-hand Vita was only $100. I got a Vita OLED for the same price only to sell it 2 days later. My Switch Lite was for $90, it's mint, and it came with BOTW and carrying case. My PS4 was brand new but I only got it for $200 thanks to a $100 credit deal from a Sprint LG G5. My Atari Jaguar was over $300 but that was a 1993 Christmas gift. I was one of the early adopters for that terrible console but I still love it because I owned it for so long and I love underdogs. They're just video games. Don't need to spend a fortune on them. Steam Deck won't be beaten until another competitor undercuts them by a lot. Say ASUS releases a $250 handheld with similar specs to the Deck. That will sell like crazy. The sweet spot is closer to $200. I've only had problems with the two Asus products I've owned: a Zenfone Go and a Windows 8 hybrid. Where do you go if you start having problems with it? I'll stick to Valve because they have an ecosystem called a Steam account. Gabe Newell is like the George R.R. Martin of the gaming industry. I'll support Gabe. Sony and Sega needs to return to making handhelds. I've considered buying a Sega Nomad just for the hell of it and I already have all the Genesis games on my smartphones, Vita, and Switch. If Sony won't make a Vita successor, make one for the Xperia Play. The future in gaming are handhelds. Bye to home consoles.
I'm really looking forward to your emulation video. I'd love to see how it handles N64, GameCube, and PS2 stuff (and maybe PS3?). I have a smaller handheld that is basically perfect for all of my classic (16-bit and earlier) games, but I'm looking for something that can cover the middle-ground 3D stuff that's traditionally a bit harder to run. I really like the design of this one, so it might be my go-to if it handles the games I want it to handle. Thanks for the first look. Looking forward to the rest.
you could just go watch other handheld that uses the same Ryzen 7 6800u chips like aya neo 2 / aya neo geek / gpd win 4 etc and see if the performance is enough for your need
It's so interesting to me that you love the dull colour choices, when myself and my wife LOVED the original air colour designs. This looks so boring in comparison.
This looks awesome, I like it! Question: >> What is the most graphically taxing game that you can play on high / mostly high settings with a reasonable framerate and battery life? >> Or at the very least, can this device play Crysis 3 Remastered, Red Dead Redemption 2, and/or Resident 4 Remake on high settings?
I'm having a PlayStation kick myself playing my Vita 2K model constantly. But I tend to gravitate more to my Switch because of the better hardware and it's easier to charge it next to my phones with USB-C. I'm trying to figure out what is my favorite video game of all-time? Since 1997, it's been Final Fantasy VII. I beat it in 1997 and 2002 on PS1. Then 2011 on a modded PSP. Then 2019 on a Vita. I also have the game for Android and Switch. But do I really replay it? Not really. If based on replay value, it would be Ridge Racer on PSP. I would play that game a few times every year since 2005. That's 18 years playing the same game here and there to kill 15 minutes. My fav in that game is Midnight Run with 3 tracks all being night stages. Love the long straightways and wide sweeping turns. My biggest knock with Ridge Racer is the music. FF7 and Shenmue II shine in that area. Music plays a huge part with video games and nostalgia. I don't remember a good tune from Ridge Racer the way I can hum songs from Nobuo Uematsu's work. I don't find Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's music all that memorable either. So let me try to rank my top 10... 1. NBA Street Vol. 2 2. Final Fantasy VII 3. Shenmue II 4. Tekken 3 5. Ridge Racer 6. Final Fantasy X 7. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! 8. Super Mario 3D World 9. NBA 2K23 10. F-Zero GX Flip 3, Vita, and Switch contains all of my top 10 games. Perhaps up to 50 of my favorites. I was really out of the loop by the PS3/360 eras. Then by PS4, I still felt out of the loop. I'm not into first-person shooters. Not aware of the many new franchises that were released during the last 15 years or so. I would get this device if priced under $300 consistently. But I hear Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us are not great PC ports. I don't want to buy a $300-$400 handheld only to play a few games like FF7 Remake, God of War (2018), and Shenmue III only to get less than 2 hours of gameplay. Sony still remains my favorite company in gaming but Nintendo does have better replay value in their games. They have the timeless cartoony look. Nintendo established a gaming culture that Sony never really succeeded in. While Valve doesn't make their own games and lacks the personality coming from Sony and Nintendo devices. Emulation Chinese handhelds lacks even more personality. Like when you see a Vita, you know that's a Sony PlayStation product. Nintendo has their first-party exclusives that you won't find anywhere else unless you wait 10 to 20 years for it to be emulated correctly.
I actually got a Switch V1 to hack (before the hardware mods are easy enough to obtain) to play Switch, PSVita, PSP, Gamecube JRPGs and other games. Kinda more budget to my pocket and light. I love the size of the Ayn Loki, Aya Neo Air, GPD Win 4 but their prices :(
Mine is the preview version(changed from release version because I get it in 2 days, not a month), they said the only different between preview version and release version is the fpc. Hope it won't effect the experience.
Hi Taki, sorry to comment off topic, but wondering if you could point me in the direction of a handheld that might best suit my needs. The systems I want to emulate would be GB, GBA, NDS, 3DS, PS1 and maybe some light Dreamcast/PS2 stuff. All this in the smallest possible form factor. I've got a modded 3DS which is decent but it doesn't handle the Playstation stuff too well at all. Air Plus looks okay but wanting something quite a bit smaller, if possible. Probably being a little unrealistic here but would love to hear any advice.
Ayn Odin (base and pro handle 3DS emulation quite well, the odin lite currently struggles a bit with the citra opengl build. However, once citra vulkan gets more mature, also the odin lite should be better regarding 3ds as well as smaller handhelds like the rp3plus). In general, the t618 android devices are a clever choice when some compromises can be done regarding gamcube and ps2 (and 3ds with the current opengl citra build).
It's cool, but Aya will just release another one 6 months from now. That's my biggest issue with Odin and Aya - they aren't sticking with one sku long enough to drive down cost & really polish the user experience.
Honestly,. after I realized that I spent $1300 on an Aya device that was obsolete my the next model a week after I received it I said "F this im just going build a 4090 PC and be done with this foolery" best decision ever
nah it's great that they do, wish valve was already making a new one too, but yeah nobody is forcing u to upgrade, u can chill until u are ready or feel the need, same as PC gpu's lol just play your games/visuals that satisfy u until again u feel the need to upgrade
@@melxb I have to disagree because the gains are not much more and also they don't finish debugging one device before releasing another one. Steam deck owner here also and I love how valves is taking their time and fixing, adding things to this one before the next one
@@JohanMGO i mean hear u on that part, but 9 times out of 10 games just gonna play on windows even more than on valve own OS to be such a need for that constantly
Is that Turtle WoW at the end? That could even run on lower specced handhelds. Maybe you could do a video on how to run WoW Classic/Turtle in on an ARM based with the Box64 + Wine and show how to set up the controls
@@TakiUdon Should configure the UI mod you have, immediately recognized that stock look lol. Used to use the same UI mod, and you can configure it to be a lot more friendly to handhelds
hall sensor joysticks are great but man I cannot be asked to use those switch joystick clones they are so uncomfortable and makes it harder to be accurate
Hi Taki, I'm also in China and have bought the recently released Redmi Note 12 turbo and its running everything so well. Could we expect a review from you for this product? I have been thinking about making a video review but I'm sure you could cover it better than I ever could
I was gonna get the air plus but then saw the lowest model cost the same amount as the air lite but is weaker than it and plus I will get the air because me and my older brothers love playing fighter games and more together so I'm getting air lite and a steam deck docking station for my birthday.Its next month on May 18th
Strangely enough, the AMD devices seem better spec-wise, but the intel devices still have something special that the AMD's cant touch. All intel need to do is get their mobile gpu game in order or team up with nvidia and let them handle the gpu side of the processor.
Great insight on this video as usual, Taki Udon! Love the videos. As for the device... Unfortunately, I think the temps, constant adjustments, and cost vs ROI (especially with their handhelds released less than a year ago!) is not worth it on the AyaNeo Air Plus. The GPD Win 4 and the supposed upcoming ASUS ROG ALLY handheld consoles, tacked on with AyaNeo's horrid customer service and support, make me want to skip this entirely. Maybe AyaNeo could stop throwing out so many consoles annually and put some more attention to 1-2 per year, at most. The idea of releasing these devices & varied models as frequent as a mobile phone, does not seem like a viable strategy year-after-year.
Hi Taki, I am wondering if you can check what's the SSD pcie. If it gen 3 or gen 4. I am now debating between advance version of 16g+512g then upgrade SSD myself vs getting 32g+2tb grey. You think it is worth the 400 extra? Thank you for your opinion.
Mine reports as PCIe 3.0. They told me that the first batch of units will all be PCIe 4.0. As for your second question, I've never found a difference between 16GB or RAM and 32GB of RAM for the kinds of games that I play. There are very few situations (with Steam games) where you will notice the difference. If I was going to use this as a main PC, I'd probably go with 32GB because it is way easier to use more RAM outside of gaming.
Hi Taki, hope this gets to you as i needed some help on how to factory reset my Ayaneo air plus 7320u. Went thru Reddit but it does seems to work. Thank you in advance
considering this top maxed version of ayaneo, in price of twice of steam deck, how much performance this will have at lowest configuration ryzen 3 7320u with 16ram 512Mb ??
I’m looking for PS2 emulation without frame drops? You guys think this is powerful enough or I should wait for a more compatible handheld for PS2 games
Could you not run the games at higher graphics using a higher tdp? Would be nice to see the 6800u pushed to it's limits, even a stable 30fps is enough for me
yep that's what id do, just play plugged up/while charging, already do it with every handheld i have anyways, and yep pick the settings that show the most meaningful graphics difference and set at 30fps + highest necessary tdp, 9 times out of 10 u can definitely play most games looking nice as on a ps5/series x at least if not better, but i guess these channels tend to focus on the go gamers, so it's all about battery and performance...soon the 7000 series chip are coming so it will be even better/easier to do
@@melxb I've got a gpd win 4 coming real soon for my first handheld! I'm excited! However I've just seen the Rog ally! And that looks gooooood 😅 it's probs cheaper and performs better knowing my luck!
@@VideosWithNexus right, i myself almost jumped on the win 4, it was btw it and the aya 2, but then i started hearing aya talk about the aya next 2 or something like that looks like a steam deck coming with pads and new amd chip so i decided wait and yep now they showed the rog (is it me or does the rog oddly look like the buttons/design from the onexplayer guys, which also make some sleek looking devices, the onexplayer mini also tempted me, but yeah wouldn't be surprised they partnered to make that device or same part maker)
@@VideosWithNexus or actually i may have rog button/design confused with aokzoe 2 device, but yeah odd it looks like they have same buttons and design from both them and onexplayer, but i guess that's china they just take and copy things as they plz lol
@chronolynx360 very real. Dave2D has a review unit, he made a video already th-cam.com/video/drLZxyv79Oo/w-d-xo.html (EDIT) and Linus Tech Tips just dropped a vid th-cam.com/video/S9a3oAiN2ik/w-d-xo.html
With a 6-in screen form factor, why isn't anybody sourced 6-in OLED screens from a cell phone manufacturer? 60 Hertz would suffice for most PC gaming at 720p. And a 1080p OLED screen from Motorola or Samsung What actually make these handheld Windows PCs much more desirable for the price point.
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Air Plus Traveler Edition
An emulation video and possibly one on the cheaper Air Plus units are on the way.
@Jedistache Yes. I got distracted for about 3 hours while filming this video.
I would like to see the Air Plus Intel version in action
@Jedistache please play more games
@@TakiUdon thought i'd mention when u showed god of war, it said elden ring, but no biggie
there’s a typo when you show GOW it reads Elden Ring (just after the ER demo) 19:19
If they were priced at the original prices I would’ve bought one instead they doubled the price and sold them for the original price super early in the morning for only the earliest people
Yeah same here.
It’s mad bogus that they’re were only 200 of them available for the price it isn’t worth it
Scum move
These are original prices
I don't think I like AYA NEO Handheld's anyway their D-Pads are notoriously bad.
I really appreciate that you’re talking about the market and product selection. Examples from this video are when you talk about the screen and stick selection. I value your opinion a lot and adding in some analysis based on objective information takes the video to the next level in my opinion.
The way you did the fan curve is also great, I’ve done the same on my PC with the GPU and CPU cooler. I selected my levels based on both noise and pitch.
Thank you!
I just bought the "advance" version of the air plus, cannot wait to receive it now in mid april, this device looks so great.
I like the long runtimes Taki, never feels like you leave anything out.
It’s a shame the retail price for the lower end models are so expensive. If they were sold at that $270 price or even up to $350 they would have been extremely competitive. Really hope we can see that one day. Now we just have to see if the Loki delivers on that price and quality
not with a ryzen 6800u, this chip still pretty expensive... maybe if was a ryzen 5 6600u
@@lndnfsu2 They have all the parts, I hope they can make something at a lower price point with a large screen. :D
@@lndnfsu2 I believe he's referring to the 7320U and 7520U units
@Carl Gunderson They were initially announced at that price a while back, so it's not a strange expectation
@Carl Gunderson that’s definitely true but if the Loki does deliver on those lower priced models and they run well then maybe. It’s definitely a shame that there were only 100 of those intel and Mendocino air plus’s each at $270
I feel like these are getting SO close to something perfect, the small sticks are the dealbreaker for me personally
I think rubber extension grips work as a temp solution, but it would be awesome to just replace the stick module
@Michael Carley +1
Now THIS is MUCH BETTER than the ayaneo 2 and geek! So slim and comfortable!!!!!
Personally I want the switch now (specifically) for Zelda though. I already own the steam deck and play a lot of my own backlog of games on there and counting.
@@Azmodaeus49 I mean, all Switch games are technically playable on the Steam Deck through emulation. Same with Wii U, which I have tried and runs great, but dumping your own Wii U games is a bit of a hassle. I was able to dump my save data as well which was good.
@@makotoyuki9498 for Wii u and 3ds games use Wii u usb helper. Much easier
@@DillonAverage98 More so that the waiting times for the games to dump lasted for a long time with “Dumpling.” But it did it’s job the first time for all of my games except for BotW, which timed out.
Ordered mine this morning. Thanks for the heads-up about the campaign, Taki! I think this system is really going to hit the sweet-spot between portability, functionality, ergonomics, quality, and value!! And if the manufacturer can nail the AyaSpace2 software--we might finally have a worthy competitor for the Steam Deck on the market!
It was a great deal for the upgraded battery and screen. Awesome companion device.
Me too
Damn! Playing those AAA games at 15W is very impressive.
clean and thanks for comparing screens, hate how on every other channel that's the one thing they never do or just gloss over
You're my favorite TH-camr for including 2015 Star Wars Battlefront.
Was gonna buy the intel alder lake model but then the price increased significantly 😢
Can’t wait till the day we have this power in the form factor of something like a Retroid pocket 3
Maybe in 4 years!
I was really pissed about not being able to grab one at the early bird pricing of $269, especially since I already have a Deck and wanted a smaller handheld with Windows and better screen in mind for non-gaming stuff. Then I saw this review, and specifically the size comparison with the original Air...
Yep, no regrets anymore 😂
Don't regret a garage product
It's too big?
@@TakiUdon Michael Scott moment
@@turbochargedfilms hold on it was just 270 bucks for the 6800u version?!!!
No gaming? U want to use it as a work laptop or what?
The dark gray is the color of the controller cables!
I am really waiting for that I3-1215u version.
Would love to see a side by side comparison with the Aya Neo 2/Geek. See games with same settings at the Plus’s 28W vs the 2/Geek’s 33W. Testing an eGPU with the Plus would be interesting as well!
Anyhow, great vid! Cheers
"nothing like getting a big stick" - Taki
the tactile feel of the inputs are the most important, no one has ever gotten that as good as the japanese.
I really wanted to get this, but alas i got the ayaneo 2, I couldnt really wait anymore on this.
I heard Aya support is crap
so I've heard. whats your point?
7R looks like it's running great
...always love the video's, but I'm a bit confused at why you didn't have a steam deck or another higher end / cost handheld other than the Odin? The Odin is a great value for what you get, but it's not in the same league.
For the screen part? Steam Deck uses a 7" screen. I put the Win 4 which is considered higher end.
I agree, would have been nice to see performance comparisons to Aya air pro and Aya neo 2
Would love to see some more 1080p gaming - Would love to see how FPS and fan noise hold up. Also FSR in games that support it on this handheld 😃
Great video, Taki. This one is too rich for my blood, but, as a curious onlooker, I appreciate your effort with this one.
Ranking All My Gaming Devices I've Owned
1. PS Vita (2K model)
2. Switch Lite
3. PSP (1K model)
4. PS1 (my fav home console)
5. Dreamcast
6. PS2
7. GameCube
8. Super NES
9. Genesis
10. NES
11. PS4
12. PS3
13. Wii
14. Xbox
15. N64
16. Game Boy
17. Game Gear
18. DS
19. Game Boy Advance SP
20. Saturn
21. Jaguar
Never owned the Atari 2600, 3DO, Wii U, PS5, any Amiga, any NEC, any Neo Geo, or any Xbox after the original one.
If I can include smartphones, then my Flip 3 would be #1 since it can emulate Dreamcast, GameCube, and some Wii that my modded Vita can't do. But I do prefer playing retro games on a handheld. My SN30 Pro does have input lag playing NES and SNES games. How it's displayed on my Vita is also nicer since the lower resolution is closer to the games' OG resolution.
For at least 10+ years, my fav was my PSP but not because of gaming. I had it since June 6, 2005 and it was my multimedia player that I traveled with. Was the first to introduce me to Wi-Fi when we were still on Wi-Fi "b" which was slow af to PS3's Wi-Fi "g".
I believe my Vita slim I got since May 13, 2017 is now my favorite. It's everything the PSP was and much more. Battery life is still rock solid. And I got it second-hand like I did for my Switch Lite I barely got last October 3, 2022.
I plan to buy all my gaming gadgets second-hand. I'll scour on OfferUp finding great deals. I don't buy brand new any more with my gaming stuff. I'm no collector. I'm a CHEAPASSGAMER. Once I finish a game, I rarely replay them. So I started buying them used during the PS2 days. I started doing the same for my handhelds by 2017.
I'll wait to get a Steam Deck once it reaches $200 used on OfferUp. I believe it will get that low by this year. I've never spent more than $300 for a gaming device. The most expensive was that PSP phat I got for $250 ($270+ with taxes). Most of my consoles and handhelds, I got them for $200 or less.
My second-hand Vita was only $100. I got a Vita OLED for the same price only to sell it 2 days later. My Switch Lite was for $90, it's mint, and it came with BOTW and carrying case. My PS4 was brand new but I only got it for $200 thanks to a $100 credit deal from a Sprint LG G5. My Atari Jaguar was over $300 but that was a 1993 Christmas gift. I was one of the early adopters for that terrible console but I still love it because I owned it for so long and I love underdogs.
They're just video games. Don't need to spend a fortune on them. Steam Deck won't be beaten until another competitor undercuts them by a lot. Say ASUS releases a $250 handheld with similar specs to the Deck. That will sell like crazy. The sweet spot is closer to $200.
I've only had problems with the two Asus products I've owned: a Zenfone Go and a Windows 8 hybrid. Where do you go if you start having problems with it? I'll stick to Valve because they have an ecosystem called a Steam account. Gabe Newell is like the George R.R. Martin of the gaming industry. I'll support Gabe.
Sony and Sega needs to return to making handhelds. I've considered buying a Sega Nomad just for the hell of it and I already have all the Genesis games on my smartphones, Vita, and Switch. If Sony won't make a Vita successor, make one for the Xperia Play. The future in gaming are handhelds. Bye to home consoles.
I'm really looking forward to your emulation video. I'd love to see how it handles N64, GameCube, and PS2 stuff (and maybe PS3?). I have a smaller handheld that is basically perfect for all of my classic (16-bit and earlier) games, but I'm looking for something that can cover the middle-ground 3D stuff that's traditionally a bit harder to run. I really like the design of this one, so it might be my go-to if it handles the games I want it to handle. Thanks for the first look. Looking forward to the rest.
There are multiple handhelds using this chip. Runs PS3 pretty well
you could just go watch other handheld that uses the same Ryzen 7 6800u chips like aya neo 2 / aya neo geek / gpd win 4 etc and see if the performance is enough for your need
It's so interesting to me that you love the dull colour choices, when myself and my wife LOVED the original air colour designs. This looks so boring in comparison.
Glad I got my 2tb geek when I did, these resellers are smoking crack with their pricing 🤦🏻♂️
Can't wait to see this with the 7840u.
This looks awesome, I like it! Question:
>> What is the most graphically taxing game that you can play on high / mostly high settings with a reasonable framerate and battery life?
>> Or at the very least, can this device play Crysis 3 Remastered, Red Dead Redemption 2, and/or Resident 4 Remake on high settings?
Waiting on ROG Ally to be reviewed by taki
I'm having a PlayStation kick myself playing my Vita 2K model constantly. But I tend to gravitate more to my Switch because of the better hardware and it's easier to charge it next to my phones with USB-C.
I'm trying to figure out what is my favorite video game of all-time? Since 1997, it's been Final Fantasy VII. I beat it in 1997 and 2002 on PS1. Then 2011 on a modded PSP. Then 2019 on a Vita. I also have the game for Android and Switch. But do I really replay it? Not really. If based on replay value, it would be Ridge Racer on PSP. I would play that game a few times every year since 2005.
That's 18 years playing the same game here and there to kill 15 minutes. My fav in that game is Midnight Run with 3 tracks all being night stages. Love the long straightways and wide sweeping turns. My biggest knock with Ridge Racer is the music. FF7 and Shenmue II shine in that area.
Music plays a huge part with video games and nostalgia. I don't remember a good tune from Ridge Racer the way I can hum songs from Nobuo Uematsu's work. I don't find Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's music all that memorable either.
So let me try to rank my top 10...
1. NBA Street Vol. 2
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. Shenmue II
4. Tekken 3
5. Ridge Racer
6. Final Fantasy X
7. Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
8. Super Mario 3D World
9. NBA 2K23
10. F-Zero GX
Flip 3, Vita, and Switch contains all of my top 10 games. Perhaps up to 50 of my favorites. I was really out of the loop by the PS3/360 eras. Then by PS4, I still felt out of the loop. I'm not into first-person shooters. Not aware of the many new franchises that were released during the last 15 years or so.
I would get this device if priced under $300 consistently. But I hear Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us are not great PC ports. I don't want to buy a $300-$400 handheld only to play a few games like FF7 Remake, God of War (2018), and Shenmue III only to get less than 2 hours of gameplay.
Sony still remains my favorite company in gaming but Nintendo does have better replay value in their games. They have the timeless cartoony look. Nintendo established a gaming culture that Sony never really succeeded in.
While Valve doesn't make their own games and lacks the personality coming from Sony and Nintendo devices. Emulation Chinese handhelds lacks even more personality. Like when you see a Vita, you know that's a Sony PlayStation product. Nintendo has their first-party exclusives that you won't find anywhere else unless you wait 10 to 20 years for it to be emulated correctly.
I actually got a Switch V1 to hack (before the hardware mods are easy enough to obtain) to play Switch, PSVita, PSP, Gamecube JRPGs and other games. Kinda more budget to my pocket and light. I love the size of the Ayn Loki, Aya Neo Air, GPD Win 4 but their prices :(
Mine is the preview version(changed from release version because I get it in 2 days, not a month), they said the only different between preview version and release version is the fpc. Hope it won't effect the experience.
Glass Canon build enjoyer i see :)
The offer grows... now let's see those prices
I got one of the 100 ryzen 7320u ayaneo air plus at 269 usd 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Ayyy me too!
Every time I’m going to buy one another comes out. I’ll just keep waiting.
I expect Aya neo 3 next week
19:19 Taki It looks like you accidentally named God of War as Elden Ring
Just wait on the ROG Ally with the newest Processor
Correction in the testing display. God of War is labeled as Elden Ring. Stats look correct, just mistitled.
Wouldn't surprise me if they announce a new handheld next week and make it cheaper. Ayaneo announces a new handheld every week or so😅🤣
lo-key jealous about the 6 in screen 🤔
I wanted to use this one, but I never could.
So tempted... do I wait for AOG Ally further announcements regarding the custom AMD Chip, or do I order this awesome unit?
Wait!
@@eskimofo9i6 yeah I decided to wait
Depends, if you like smaller size devices yes go buy this
Steam deck and ROG ally are too big for my hand, hence I'll probably prefer this or loki max
@@dafaqu694 ah I didn't think about that
@@andrewbrooks2001 I had steam deck, but it really tires my hands so I decided to sold it, and get loki max lol (hasn't released yet)
Hi Taki, sorry to comment off topic, but wondering if you could point me in the direction of a handheld that might best suit my needs. The systems I want to emulate would be GB, GBA, NDS, 3DS, PS1 and maybe some light Dreamcast/PS2 stuff. All this in the smallest possible form factor. I've got a modded 3DS which is decent but it doesn't handle the Playstation stuff too well at all. Air Plus looks okay but wanting something quite a bit smaller, if possible. Probably being a little unrealistic here but would love to hear any advice.
Ayn Odin (base and pro handle 3DS emulation quite well, the odin lite currently struggles a bit with the citra opengl build. However, once citra vulkan gets more mature, also the odin lite should be better regarding 3ds as well as smaller handhelds like the rp3plus). In general, the t618 android devices are a clever choice when some compromises can be done regarding gamcube and ps2 (and 3ds with the current opengl citra build).
@@hadouken2123 Probably a bit too big for what I'm after. Anything smaller that can do the job?
@@CreepyOz then i would just go for the retroid pocket 3 plus. It has a really nice size. Price per value is also best here imho.
It's cool, but Aya will just release another one 6 months from now. That's my biggest issue with Odin and Aya - they aren't sticking with one sku long enough to drive down cost & really polish the user experience.
Honestly,. after I realized that I spent $1300 on an Aya device that was obsolete my the next model a week after I received it I said "F this im just going build a 4090 PC and be done with this foolery" best decision ever
nah it's great that they do, wish valve was already making a new one too, but yeah nobody is forcing u to upgrade, u can chill until u are ready or feel the need, same as PC gpu's lol just play your games/visuals that satisfy u until again u feel the need to upgrade
@@melxb I have to disagree because the gains are not much more and also they don't finish debugging one device before releasing another one. Steam deck owner here also and I love how valves is taking their time and fixing, adding things to this one before the next one
@@JohanMGO i mean hear u on that part, but 9 times out of 10 games just gonna play on windows even more than on valve own OS to be such a need for that constantly
@@JohanMGO If the gains are not much more, than how did your device go obsolete because of the next model..? That makes no sense..
im excited for the air pro plus max lite XL S gen 3.2x2 featuring dante from the devil may cry series & funky kong edition TM model coming soon
19:17 looks like GOW to me but the video says it's Elden Ring...
I’ll still probably get one, but I agree about the thumbsticks. It’d be nicer if they weren’t joycons
Dang that 269 price would've been nice. I would've taken one over my steam deck at that price.
Thanks for the video. How is the ergonomic with respect to the right analog stick? Is it more comfortable than the odin?
Great video taki, thanks!
What is the DBZ game you play around 6:00?
DBZ Kakarot
@@TakiUdon thanks. Love your videos
I used to own a PS Vita way back, sad that rough diamond didn't survive.
Indigogo is always a no go go
Can't wait to see your review of the 405m. Not a fan of it at all cause of the d pad and no linux. Would love your perspective!
Fujiwara Tofu Shop in the top left😊
Great Video Taki, Can you tell us if the display is native landscape?
It's portrait
Is that Turtle WoW at the end? That could even run on lower specced handhelds. Maybe you could do a video on how to run WoW Classic/Turtle in on an ARM based with the Box64 + Wine and show how to set up the controls
I did most of that in a big video that I put out last month.
@@TakiUdon I don't recall seeing WoW! I will recheck it.
I think it is at the very end of the video. It was one of the last things that I tested and is ultimately how I found Turtle.
I had never even heard of Turtle WoW until this video! So glad I watched all the way to the end! Are controllers supported natively?
@@TakiUdon Should configure the UI mod you have, immediately recognized that stock look lol. Used to use the same UI mod, and you can configure it to be a lot more friendly to handhelds
hall sensor joysticks are great but man I cannot be asked to use those switch joystick clones they are so uncomfortable and makes it harder to be accurate
Hi Taki, I'm also in China and have bought the recently released Redmi Note 12 turbo and its running everything so well. Could we expect a review from you for this product? I have been thinking about making a video review but I'm sure you could cover it better than I ever could
I like the Note line, but I haven't considered this.
I was gonna get the air plus but then saw the lowest model cost the same amount as the air lite but is weaker than it and plus I will get the air because me and my older brothers love playing fighter games and more together so I'm getting air lite and a steam deck docking station for my birthday.Its next month on May 18th
Strangely enough, the AMD devices seem better spec-wise, but the intel devices still have something special that the AMD's cant touch. All intel need to do is get their mobile gpu game in order or team up with nvidia and let them handle the gpu side of the processor.
What’s the something special?
@@epico5805 Amd or Intel?
@@percyvolnar8010 intel
how about this ?UMA size tune?heaat cooling?over clock?RSR?
Is 45hz mode a new native option on the AYANEO Air Plus? Or is it also available on other devices of AYANEO?
You have to set it up through CRU as custom resolution.
Found it. That's the one.
I want to see how it emulates the PSvita because I'm not gonna be playing God of War on a small device. :D
I think the best option is the Steam Deck until they produce the definitive one or you get obsolete very soon.
19:27, man Elden Ring looks funny. Not what I remember.
Great insight on this video as usual, Taki Udon! Love the videos.
As for the device... Unfortunately, I think the temps, constant adjustments, and cost vs ROI (especially with their handhelds released less than a year ago!) is not worth it on the AyaNeo Air Plus.
The GPD Win 4 and the supposed upcoming ASUS ROG ALLY handheld consoles, tacked on with AyaNeo's horrid customer service and support, make me want to skip this entirely. Maybe AyaNeo could stop throwing out so many consoles annually and put some more attention to 1-2 per year, at most. The idea of releasing these devices & varied models as frequent as a mobile phone, does not seem like a viable strategy year-after-year.
The back seems like it's the same colors as the triggers on the PS controller.
Dude, Taki, use chapter markers. Please.
Hi Taki,
I am wondering if you can check what's the SSD pcie. If it gen 3 or gen 4. I am now debating between advance version of 16g+512g then upgrade SSD myself vs getting 32g+2tb grey. You think it is worth the 400 extra? Thank you for your opinion.
Mine reports as PCIe 3.0. They told me that the first batch of units will all be PCIe 4.0. As for your second question, I've never found a difference between 16GB or RAM and 32GB of RAM for the kinds of games that I play. There are very few situations (with Steam games) where you will notice the difference. If I was going to use this as a main PC, I'd probably go with 32GB because it is way easier to use more RAM outside of gaming.
Hi Taki, hope this gets to you as i needed some help on how to factory reset my Ayaneo air plus 7320u. Went thru Reddit but it does seems to work. Thank you in advance
Has AYANEO confirmed that all ayaneo air plus models have the same display?
Yes!
5:08 👀
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How many fps you get for final fantasy 7 remake on highest tdp and what settings? Also does it stutter on chapter 3?
I would need to use an addon to disable dynamic scaling. If you go over 30 FPS, the game will turn that on and it will make the game look really bad.
@@TakiUdon that’s true. Can you add the mod and run the test? I’m curious if it can run higher fps consistently
This one seems relatively close to Steam Deck in price. Is it comparable?
I Have Some Questions
Will It Be On Amazon
Does It Play PS2 Or GameCube Perfect
how much power does the system draw aside from the soc, if i put the soc to run at 5 watts what would the power draw be
considering this top maxed version of ayaneo, in price of twice of steam deck, how much performance this will have at lowest configuration ryzen 3 7320u with 16ram 512Mb ??
I’m looking for PS2 emulation without frame drops? You guys think this is powerful enough or I should wait for a more compatible handheld for PS2 games
Could you not run the games at higher graphics using a higher tdp? Would be nice to see the 6800u pushed to it's limits, even a stable 30fps is enough for me
yep that's what id do, just play plugged up/while charging, already do it with every handheld i have anyways, and yep pick the settings that show the most meaningful graphics difference and set at 30fps + highest necessary tdp, 9 times out of 10 u can definitely play most games looking nice as on a ps5/series x at least if not better, but i guess these channels tend to focus on the go gamers, so it's all about battery and performance...soon the 7000 series chip are coming so it will be even better/easier to do
@@melxb I've got a gpd win 4 coming real soon for my first handheld! I'm excited! However I've just seen the Rog ally! And that looks gooooood 😅 it's probs cheaper and performs better knowing my luck!
@@VideosWithNexus right, i myself almost jumped on the win 4, it was btw it and the aya 2, but then i started hearing aya talk about the aya next 2 or something like that looks like a steam deck coming with pads and new amd chip so i decided wait and yep now they showed the rog (is it me or does the rog oddly look like the buttons/design from the onexplayer guys, which also make some sleek looking devices, the onexplayer mini also tempted me, but yeah wouldn't be surprised they partnered to make that device or same part maker)
@@VideosWithNexus or actually i may have rog button/design confused with aokzoe 2 device, but yeah odd it looks like they have same buttons and design from both them and onexplayer, but i guess that's china they just take and copy things as they plz lol
I have a feeling rog ally is coming soon or just a April's fools joke! I hope it's real.
It's real! Asus confirmed it.
@@allenfrisch I'm getting one!
@chronolynx360 very real.
Dave2D has a review unit, he made a video already th-cam.com/video/drLZxyv79Oo/w-d-xo.html
(EDIT) and Linus Tech Tips just dropped a vid th-cam.com/video/S9a3oAiN2ik/w-d-xo.html
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With a 6-in screen form factor, why isn't anybody sourced 6-in OLED screens from a cell phone manufacturer?
60 Hertz would suffice for most PC gaming at 720p. And a 1080p OLED screen from Motorola or Samsung
What actually make these handheld Windows PCs much more desirable for the price point.
hope u try the i3 version with egpu
How is the Aya Space app behaving on this device? I hear nothing but bad things about it.
I remember getting the game NBA Shootout free and having it a year before getting my PS1 to play it. Shaq was a big white guy.
Would love to get this, but not the Chinese level support (none) that comes with them post-sale.
Wish it wasn't so expensive
Where can you find one of these? 5:20
well... the 250.- tier already sold out ://
No OLED = No No, OLED is a vital reason to go Air
Damn! My Ayaneo 2 already feels outdated. And i didn't even get it yet 😭
Back in 96 taki how old are you 🤔
battery test please
OLED screen better on old air for retro imo.
Chinese domestic buyers are saying screen get hot when going above 20W, similar observations from your unit?
No. Maybe their fan speed is too low.