Quick question, their website doesn't specifically state that the TKL has RGB, appears only SF has RGB, is that true or just ducky being ducky and have a whacky website
Do these new Ducky One 3 series (60/65/TKL etc) boards still have the mouse feature in the firmware using function + WASD keys to use your mouse cursor? and Q key for left click and E key for mouse right click. Use this feature on my old one 2 mini alot for working on servers etc.
I'm a newbie, but the fact that the shift key is 2U won't stop me from using any switches right, it's only the keycaps that I would need to worry about?
Hi new to keyboards here… can someone tell me what’s wrong with the “two unit right shift”? I’ve been googling for an hour trying to figure it out lol…. Is that the same thing as a “2u”?
@@cait. the right 2u shift is an odd size. It's the same size as the enter key. It's typically 3u so finding the right size keycap set to fit is going to take some searching. Typically sets that have the extended amount of mods will typically have a 2u right shift.
For anyone considering the Ducky SF, you can substitute the numberpad Zero key for the right shift. Numberpad 1u keys can also substitute in for the Mods and the right side PgDn key. Not ideal, but workable.
One thing worth pointing out is that ducky is one of the very few manufacturers offering high polling rates alongside hot-swap sockets. That for me is huge, and puts the one 3 above much more expensive "custom" kits.
Funny, I love Cherry MX clears. The fact that it has the RGB version of the clears is the entire reason I bought this board. I'm fact, all the "down" sides here are my favorite parts. 😄
since my first "non-razer" keyboard was a one 2 mini due to your recommendation back in the day, I have since gone from owning a fjell and mr.suit, waiting for my mode65, and other board from gp. Love your work and thank you for getting me past those "gamer" keyboards. You really are the man
woa from prebuilts, now to all customs. And Damn Mode65 is my dream board too, but decided to pick Ginkgo & Hex 4B instead. The custom feel and sound way way better (and looks much better if you can buy good keycaps sets)
Glad I used your code at MK! Love your reviews. It definitely feels like the Year of the Rat board for 2020 was Ducky's way of testing the waters for hotswap. I actually love the sound of the plastic case there and watching this review really reassures my preorder
The ducky we all wanted, a hotswap and the new designed is pretty nice. I do like that it comes with wild colors instead of the traditional Black or white, allows you to be more expressive with your keeb.
THIS is the review I’ve been eagerly waiting for!!! I was dead set on ordering the Streak65 LP until I found out Sucky released this … now I’m sold on this … just gonna wait for a more neutral colorway! As for that right shift key I’ll make my own resin replacement!!
North-facing switches was the right move for this keyboard. Ducky is known for having some of the brightest and most vibrant RGB in the keyboard market so it make sense to have features that compliment their value prop. This board is for people coming from Razer or Corsair and just want something a little more premium or different, not enthusiasts. People that plan on doing heavy modding and swapping out the stock keycaps for some GMK aren't (or is no longer) part of Ducky's target demographic anyway.
Just wanted to throw my comment out there. Love watching your videos in my spare time. Because of them I ordered a Drop Alt and I can't wait to start messing with it a little and see if I want to get into the hobby of keyboards. Went with the Alt because of your reviews and videos. Keep it up man!
I just bought the TKL version of this. The colors were what grabbed me, but being hotswappable sealed the deal as soon as i saw i could get it with stock blue switches. Its my first actual Mechanical keyboard purchase, coming from a Keychron K1 that was gifted to me
Planning on getting the TKL version and adding my own switches. Stock stabs didn't sound too bad to me tbh, I wonder if retail copies are any different.
I've been a big fan of the Ducky Mecha mini and I'm really hoping for Ducky One 3 TKL version! Might hold out for a little longer but definitely interested in this keyboard. Big thanks for the review.
Loving the north facing LEDs/Switches. Ducky's RGB is rad, love it, shine trough keycaps are a must. Love my ducky one 2 mini with silent reds, now I plan getting a wooting 2 60% for gaming and a full size ducky one 3 for typing/work, any quiet tacticle switches for an office y'all recommend?
I’d have to grab one to try it but I love the Hotswap feature. What I don’t love is their no communication approach to explaining why there’s still no “promised software” despite that now we have a new board. So I’m thinking it was bull. And also with testing they’ve shown to cheapen out on board components having some of the worse latency on any keyboard in this sector and while it may not matter. It’s the moderate price increases with cheapening parts used and decreasing performance. They’re just another one of the mains now and kind of always were.
Im about to buy a Ducky One 3, your review seems interesting and im also looking for a full sized keyboard, will be using your affiliate link. Wondering what would you suggest switches with the intention of replacing the keycaps with translucent in the near future, so a switch that dont block the north facing led? I was thinking - Tealios v2 67g - Durock L2 Clear 62g - Everglide Aqua King Water King v3 Clear 62g still open to suggestions....
That sound is surprisingly good. Would love to get this bare ones for 99$ to put Boba U4 silents in it. Ducky's RGB is so smooth. Not so sure how I feel about the difficulty of opening it up though :/
Ducky really does have the best RGB in the business. And yeah, if you *have* to open it - you have to be very careful with the end caps. Top case is actually really forgiving and easier to work with but this is a lot tougher than the One 2 SF.
Yes the 60 percent doesn’t need the plastic tabs removed to take out the pcb and go inside. This is because it doesn’t have anything on the front covering the pcb.
Finally a hot-swap! Been waiting for that forever from Ducky! But yeah the color schemes are a little interesting. Maybe in the future, they'll make more classic colors?
Thx for for this! Great review as always and one that i've been waiting for. I think I'm gonna fall back and wait for the Mecha One III or just go full custom and build my own..?
Not gonna lie, I’ve been into customs for a while, but Ducky boards still always excite me. Just a warm reminder of where I started in the keyboard community, and this new entry hotswap is really cool.
"It cannot control ping on these switches" - I understand you are saying this to warn buyers, however, while it's true that case dampening can mitigate the phenomenon on certain switches, the only surefire way to remove switch ping is to lubricate the springs. As always, love the content, love that glorious beard!
Would you go for the One 3 SF or rk61 and mod it, if you wanna begin modding and building custom keyboards? Or would you build your own one for about 150-200$ in price range? I'm thinking about getting a pre-built or building my own.
Most people who buy these premade keyboards like me would never mod it or lube it etc we just stick to stock for various reasons. (My reason I can't be bothered) If I bought this it would be with Cherry Silvers I need speed.
i personally would not buy a keyboard if its south facing if it has led, the LED is barely visible, like look at the GMMK Pro, you barely see the LED it actually looks better without the LED on at that point, the LED just looks outta place on that keyboard. North facing LED is NEEDED imo to really show off the LED
I can speak from experience from modding a full size one 2. Opening it is not fun and the problem doesnt seem to be fixed on this newer revision. Ducky should really consider using screws instead of plastic tabs.
Now most switches are fine with cherry keycaps on north facing LEDs, like the Gateron Yellow, and since this is a relatively "cheap" board, I think most people buying this would buy a budget switch like the gateron yellow and it would be fine.
My One2 Mini is such a blast for the price with a little homework to lube the switch. I am really eager to see full white version of the One3 iteration in ISO-FR. Real talk Ducky, when do you plan to offer a 75% ? That's the trending layout for 2022.
So I just got the SF. Got some MX Reds that are surprisingly smooth compared to my other MX Reds, but you think I should throw in some Aqua Kings...or is that overkill?
Nail on the head with the thoughts on available case colours. For me, these colours are fugly and look like they belong alongside one of those weird Disney PCs with the Mickey Mouse monitor. Each to their own of course!
I'm currently rocking the Ducky Mecha Mini with silent red. I was looking forward for that new One 3 SF, but it doesn't seem to be a big upgrade(hot swap switch is not needed for me). Which one do you recommand for an out of the box SF keyboard?
Keep up the great content as always! Looking forward to upgrading to this version of Ducky keyboard. Currently have the One 2 SF. But, the hot swappable is very appealing.
The one big headscratcher to me are the color variants available at launch. Particular as the German importer asks for an extra 40-50 € for the blue and yellow versions, which are the only ones I could see myself buying.
Hey BadSeed, would you be able to confirm if the PCB of the Ducky One 3 Mini fits into the Ducky Mecha Mini? I would SOOO strongly appreciate you checking. It would mean the world to me!
I got a Ducky a while back since I didn't have the money to get a custom, but wanted a nice mechanical board to hold me over for the time being. For sure wish this was available back then, though I'm hoping they introduce more colors
Hey man, was wondering what switch puller youve been using? thinking of maybe making my first build and trying to piece together the cost of everything that I should get before I pull the trigger
I’m new to customizing keyboard and I wouldn’t want it consider this a custom but I want to get the pure white one 3 sf in white and get the ducky joker keycap set so I can put some of the caps and have a purple pink blue and white keyboard. You mentioned interference, would that key cap set be able to fit on the keys (Ik the right shift is a different shape tho) but would I be able to put at least some of those caps on there?
Actually switched to the Hero that same year and I still use it every day. Its held up great - Noblechairs and SceretLabs are very similar and the best in that style of chair.
CORRECTION: This is a 67 key layout, not 71 - my bad.
it’s alr badseed
Quick question, their website doesn't specifically state that the TKL has RGB, appears only SF has RGB, is that true or just ducky being ducky and have a whacky website
Wow. I cant believe that you misspoke about the amount of keys on a keyboard. This is unacceptable.
@@ramzinho4985 the Matcha and Fuji TKL does not have RGB, only the Daybreak TKL of $149
Do these new Ducky One 3 series (60/65/TKL etc) boards still have the mouse feature in the firmware using function + WASD keys to use your mouse cursor? and Q key for left click and E key for mouse right click. Use this feature on my old one 2 mini alot for working on servers etc.
I am really happy that more and more keyboards are going hotswap. Sucks about that 2U shift and I am glad you called it out. Quality video as always.
true, 2u shift is still very hard to find these days. Would be much better if it's 1.75u
I'm a newbie, but the fact that the shift key is 2U won't stop me from using any switches right, it's only the keycaps that I would need to worry about?
@@aratayano2434 I think this is five pin hotswap so you can use any mechanical switch on these. Just make sure they are not optical.
Hi new to keyboards here… can someone tell me what’s wrong with the “two unit right shift”? I’ve been googling for an hour trying to figure it out lol…. Is that the same thing as a “2u”?
@@cait. the right 2u shift is an odd size. It's the same size as the enter key. It's typically 3u so finding the right size keycap set to fit is going to take some searching. Typically sets that have the extended amount of mods will typically have a 2u right shift.
I love everything about this keyboard expect for the colors. Wish there was a solid black or white.
Yup same. Dealbreaker!
i was thinking of buying one and spray painting it black and white combo like the one 2 mini. idk if everything can be removed to do it though
Per a Q&A in the Ducky Discord, neutral colors for the One 3 will be coming in 2022
@@spacelawyerscott Oh cool. Thanks for that info. Will have to keep my eyes open.
They have solid white and black now.
For anyone considering the Ducky SF, you can substitute the numberpad Zero key for the right shift. Numberpad 1u keys can also substitute in for the Mods and the right side PgDn key. Not ideal, but workable.
Ngl that would kill me inside to look at that on my desk everyday 😁
@@badseedtech Yeah, I think buying a set of blanks to sub in for those keys would look better.
One thing worth pointing out is that ducky is one of the very few manufacturers offering high polling rates alongside hot-swap sockets. That for me is huge, and puts the one 3 above much more expensive "custom" kits.
I like that a lot of the more enthusiast aimed features are leaking out to the general consumer base
Yeah, its great. Boards like this are nice gateway drugs into the full scene
This board is something that i really wanted 3 years ago, and probably still gonna buy it, since i have a soft spot for ducky.
Just the want to say the way you set up the shots is just *chef's kiss*
Funny, I love Cherry MX clears. The fact that it has the RGB version of the clears is the entire reason I bought this board.
I'm fact, all the "down" sides here are my favorite parts. 😄
YES! been waiting for this! Thanks Brian!
since my first "non-razer" keyboard was a one 2 mini due to your recommendation back in the day, I have since gone from owning a fjell and mr.suit, waiting for my mode65, and other board from gp. Love your work and thank you for getting me past those "gamer" keyboards. You really are the man
woa from prebuilts, now to all customs. And Damn Mode65 is my dream board too, but decided to pick Ginkgo & Hex 4B instead. The custom feel and sound way way better (and looks much better if you can buy good keycaps sets)
@@stefanusrianto8781 ikr haha, its a rabbit hole for sure.
I would take the sf over the mini anytime.. As always great review! Lezzgooo!!!
Glad I used your code at MK! Love your reviews. It definitely feels like the Year of the Rat board for 2020 was Ducky's way of testing the waters for hotswap. I actually love the sound of the plastic case there and watching this review really reassures my preorder
Been waiting for this one! Thank you
Dude what a journey i joined back when u were getting into 60% i love your channel and wish u the best
The ducky we all wanted, a hotswap and the new designed is pretty nice. I do like that it comes with wild colors instead of the traditional Black or white, allows you to be more expressive with your keeb.
Bro, your personal, BadSeed keycap game deserves a shoutout. No one else doing it like you.
I am SO stoked for the full size version of this!
Thats the real star imo
THIS is the review I’ve been eagerly waiting for!!! I was dead set on ordering the Streak65 LP until I found out Sucky released this … now I’m sold on this … just gonna wait for a more neutral colorway! As for that right shift key I’ll make my own resin replacement!!
That’s an OP solution to the 2U shift
North-facing switches was the right move for this keyboard. Ducky is known for having some of the brightest and most vibrant RGB in the keyboard market so it make sense to have features that compliment their value prop. This board is for people coming from Razer or Corsair and just want something a little more premium or different, not enthusiasts. People that plan on doing heavy modding and swapping out the stock keycaps for some GMK aren't (or is no longer) part of Ducky's target demographic anyway.
Just wanted to throw my comment out there. Love watching your videos in my spare time. Because of them I ordered a Drop Alt and I can't wait to start messing with it a little and see if I want to get into the hobby of keyboards. Went with the Alt because of your reviews and videos. Keep it up man!
5:52 B-roll ouuu that setup is FIRE. Great review as always B
I just bought the TKL version of this. The colors were what grabbed me, but being hotswappable sealed the deal as soon as i saw i could get it with stock blue switches. Its my first actual Mechanical keyboard purchase, coming from a Keychron K1 that was gifted to me
Planning on getting the TKL version and adding my own switches. Stock stabs didn't sound too bad to me tbh, I wonder if retail copies are any different.
MECHA SF Come on already!!! Been waiting for years now!
For anyone curious/hesitant, per some Q&A in Ducky's Discord server neutral colorways for the One 3 will come next year (2022)
Just like how we have to wait for the base model
I've been a big fan of the Ducky Mecha mini and I'm really hoping for Ducky One 3 TKL version! Might hold out for a little longer but definitely interested in this keyboard. Big thanks for the review.
Thanks for the audio warning. You knew we'd all crank it to 11 on the sound tests.
Loving the north facing LEDs/Switches. Ducky's RGB is rad, love it, shine trough keycaps are a must. Love my ducky one 2 mini with silent reds, now I plan getting a wooting 2 60% for gaming and a full size ducky one 3 for typing/work, any quiet tacticle switches for an office y'all recommend?
Gazzew Boba U4 silents
U4t should also be quiet enough :)
@@DDHDTV U4T isnt quiet U4 is, u4T's you're going to hear
Boba U4 silent tactile (not the U4T)
wow Badseed looking good, got muscle and that beard is on point! Good for you man reminds me I need to workout.
For being a case that’s hot swappable, the case material should be more rugged since opening it up is implied.
I’d have to grab one to try it but I love the Hotswap feature.
What I don’t love is their no communication approach to explaining why there’s still no “promised software” despite that now we have a new board. So I’m thinking it was bull.
And also with testing they’ve shown to cheapen out on board components having some of the worse latency on any keyboard in this sector and while it may not matter. It’s the moderate price increases with cheapening parts used and decreasing performance.
They’re just another one of the mains now and kind of always were.
Go custom
@@sgarridojr I’m not looking to use my keyboard at 125hz polling rate lol
Im about to buy a Ducky One 3, your review seems interesting and im also looking for a full sized keyboard, will be using your affiliate link. Wondering what would you suggest switches with the intention of replacing the keycaps with translucent in the near future, so a switch that dont block the north facing led? I was thinking
- Tealios v2 67g
- Durock L2 Clear 62g
- Everglide Aqua King Water King v3 Clear 62g
still open to suggestions....
That sound is surprisingly good. Would love to get this bare ones for 99$ to put Boba U4 silents in it.
Ducky's RGB is so smooth.
Not so sure how I feel about the difficulty of opening it up though :/
I literally just ordered some Boba U4’s yesterday!!
Ducky really does have the best RGB in the business. And yeah, if you *have* to open it - you have to be very careful with the end caps. Top case is actually really forgiving and easier to work with but this is a lot tougher than the One 2 SF.
@@badseedtech is the 60% easy to open?
Yes the 60 percent doesn’t need the plastic tabs removed to take out the pcb and go inside. This is because it doesn’t have anything on the front covering the pcb.
Hi does the ducky one 3 series support screw in stabs?
nicely done review, good work BadSeed.
Finally a hot-swap! Been waiting for that forever from Ducky! But yeah the color schemes are a little interesting. Maybe in the future, they'll make more classic colors?
i have been waiting for this video for a few weeks now.
Pre ordered the SF 3 days ago. Can't wait until January 6th!
your voice is so calming lol
Great video! Trying to open my ONE 3 SF as well, how did you take off the side plate?
Thx for for this! Great review as always and one that i've been waiting for. I think I'm gonna fall back and wait for the Mecha One III or just go full custom and build my own..?
Would you still recommend this keyboard over other pre-built TKL keyboards?
OEM profile has no issues with north-facing switches
Thanks for the the correction. 🙏🏼
Not gonna lie, I’ve been into customs for a while, but Ducky boards still always excite me. Just a warm reminder of where I started in the keyboard community, and this new entry hotswap is really cool.
"It cannot control ping on these switches" - I understand you are saying this to warn buyers, however, while it's true that case dampening can mitigate the phenomenon on certain switches, the only surefire way to remove switch ping is to lubricate the springs.
As always, love the content, love that glorious beard!
For the past 2 years, everyone has been like "TF, DUCKY?!?! Where you at?!!?" Well, this is where they were. The king is back, baby.
Just swapped to Akko Jelly Starfish switches and they really shine in this keyboard
Would you go for the One 3 SF or rk61 and mod it, if you wanna begin modding and building custom keyboards? Or would you build your own one for about 150-200$ in price range? I'm thinking about getting a pre-built or building my own.
this keyboard would look so good with the cordura endgame gear mousepad, with them both having yellow & blue on them!
Most people who buy these premade keyboards like me would never mod it or lube it etc we just stick to stock for various reasons. (My reason I can't be bothered) If I bought this it would be with Cherry Silvers I need speed.
i personally would not buy a keyboard if its south facing if it has led, the LED is barely visible, like look at the GMMK Pro, you barely see the LED it actually looks better without the LED on at that point, the LED just looks outta place on that keyboard. North facing LED is NEEDED imo to really show off the LED
good keycaps colors is the way usually for now such as from GMK, EPBT, JTK, Domikey, and else
Ducky and Akko's latest offerings are pretty compelling, more win for us consumers 😏👌
I can speak from experience from modding a full size one 2. Opening it is not fun and the problem doesnt seem to be fixed on this newer revision. Ducky should really consider using screws instead of plastic tabs.
Hi BadSeed, would you recommend I get the One 3 SF or the Streak65 LP? I'm stuck between the two.
where can I get a custom space bar with text? That looks awesome
The completely yellow version of the ducky is actually starting to grow on me
That thing is wild. I’d love to see it in a setup.
Now most switches are fine with cherry keycaps on north facing LEDs, like the Gateron Yellow, and since this is a relatively "cheap" board, I think most people buying this would buy a budget switch like the gateron yellow and it would be fine.
I don't know who you are, but that was a great, to-the-point review! Well done.
Ha, thanks so much for taking the time to comment.
My One2 Mini is such a blast for the price with a little homework to lube the switch. I am really eager to see full white version of the One3 iteration in ISO-FR. Real talk Ducky, when do you plan to offer a 75% ? That's the trending layout for 2022.
So I just got the SF. Got some MX Reds that are surprisingly smooth compared to my other MX Reds, but you think I should throw in some Aqua Kings...or is that overkill?
The most convenient way to get the hot-swappable MX Clears is to buy Ducky One 3 with them. Eternally greatful to Ducky 🙏
Oh hey I see the new Beyerdynamic gaming headphones in the background. Looking forward to the review
B-Roll is always absolute fire.
Thanks so much!
The yellow one looks amazing
Throwback to where it all started
Really is. It feels like its been forever since that One 2 Mini video blew up.
Holy crap, what camera / lens was used for that initial push in shot? It's incredible!
Nail on the head with the thoughts on available case colours. For me, these colours are fugly and look like they belong alongside one of those weird Disney PCs with the Mickey Mouse monitor. Each to their own of course!
I'm currently rocking the Ducky Mecha Mini with silent red. I was looking forward for that new One 3 SF, but it doesn't seem to be a big upgrade(hot swap switch is not needed for me). Which one do you recommand for an out of the box SF keyboard?
I hate that the white plate gets scratched but you don't even see it when the keycaps go on and it does make the rgb shine brighter.
As much as I want this, is the ducky one2 still a solid unit for 2021/22 at a discounted price?
Hey Badseed great video! Do you have any shine-through keycap recommendations for this board? Thinking of getting a set!
Keep up the great content as always! Looking forward to upgrading to this version of Ducky keyboard. Currently have the One 2 SF. But, the hot swappable is very appealing.
How has your experience been with the One 2? I wanna buy a keyboard and am looking into that one.
The one big headscratcher to me are the color variants available at launch. Particular as the German importer asks for an extra 40-50 € for the blue and yellow versions, which are the only ones I could see myself buying.
My son has asked for a Ducky One 2 Mini got Xmas. Is this replacing it as I’d prefer to get the newer version? Thanks for the vid.
6:11 Are these the Epsilon switches? Do you like them?
Hey BadSeed, would you be able to confirm if the PCB of the Ducky One 3 Mini fits into the Ducky Mecha Mini? I would SOOO strongly appreciate you checking. It would mean the world to me!
I got a Ducky a while back since I didn't have the money to get a custom, but wanted a nice mechanical board to hold me over for the time being. For sure wish this was available back then, though I'm hoping they introduce more colors
Hey man, was wondering what switch puller youve been using? thinking of maybe making my first build and trying to piece together the cost of everything that I should get before I pull the trigger
Honestly. I am waiting for the Wooting 60. That's probably gonna be my endgame gaming keyboard. Still will enjoy my custom keeb.
This or the fnatic streak 65? I’m not into hotswapping or anything just put in play
Did you watch the video or just ask the question?
@@badseedtech I started it , but had to go back into work so couldn’t finish it so I just typed the question and was gone finish it on lunch
any idea when more neutral colour versions will release?
Kind of off topic but you look healthy man. Not sure if you've made changes but keep it up if so.
Yes definitely wish the color combos were more neutral
I’m new to customizing keyboard and I wouldn’t want it consider this a custom but I want to get the pure white one 3 sf in white and get the ducky joker keycap set so I can put some of the caps and have a purple pink blue and white keyboard. You mentioned interference, would that key cap set be able to fit on the keys (Ik the right shift is a different shape tho) but would I be able to put at least some of those caps on there?
I am currently considering getting a ducky 65% keyboard.
Would you recommend waiting for the one 3 or just go with the one 2?
Thanks.
Go for One 3, at least it's easier for you to mod the keyboard as well as get rid of those scratchy stock Cherry MX switches.
Definitely wait!
Time to order it now
The colored kailh hot swap sockets are the new version which are rated for more hot swap cycles
I think matcha is quite nice. I don't understand the pink+blue. I wish we'd just go pink all the way or pink+white.
hey man! do you still use the noblechairs icon from your video a few years ago ? if so, how do you like it and how is it holding up ?
Actually switched to the Hero that same year and I still use it every day. Its held up great - Noblechairs and SceretLabs are very similar and the best in that style of chair.
Oh why did Ducky go with that weird 2u Shift. Why not 1.75u? It would even look better with a slight blocker between the Shift and Up arrow.
Yeah been that way since One 2 SF launched. It’s too bad.
When can I buy this? Everything just says pre order
If I do need an aluminum case, what do you recommend?
wait what did you do exactly to make the keyboard sound like that on 4:47? did you lube it?
Is this keyboard out? I can't seem to find it anywhere without waiting until february (Europe)
Will Durock V2 stabs fit fine? I heard they barely fit in the GMMK Pro.
Gotta love the gat black inks!
Love em. Consistent and normally easy to purchase.
Are there any aftermarket cases that are compatible with the One 2 and One 3 SFs?
QUACKING GOOD REVIEW!
Do you plan to review the EPOS H6Pro??
I think is worth the extra 30-40 to go with the Keychron Q2 when released.