The Secret to Sliding on a SurfSkate - SurfSkate Tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- I am sharing my secret tip to do smooth buttery snaps and slides on your SurfSkate, no matter what wheels you are using. If my wife can do a snap on Carver concave wheels on a rubber gym mat using this tip, then I guarantee you will get results by following these steps. A few little adjustments and you will be able to break into slides easily even if you are using grippy wheels. It is all about unweighting so that you are only trying to push 1 wheel instead of 4.
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Something that helped me is practicing on carpet and lifting my back foot almost completely off the board before initiating the slide. It really does come down to timing and technique, just like the rest of skateboarding
I’ve tried this out and BINGO!!! I’m sliding like a pro… awesome advice!!!
Yeaaah, glad to hear it helped!
Thank you. The tutorial will help me in the future. You are a lantern in the darkness of surfskate.
Thanks for all the good tips including this one - your tutorials always have something I can use - this video helped me emphasize the part about getting the weight to the rail by starting my slide during the carve. Thanks again - keep it coming!
OMG I JUST LEARNED HOW TO SLIDE!!! This is amazing. Thank you so much for posting this, Mark!
Awesome tutorial! I literally have a carver with roundhouse that I’ve been trying to learn slides on, this is great advice! Thanks!
I was doing it so wrong! Thank you for showing how to distribute the weight. Can't wait to try it out!
Hi. Im from south korea. but it was really easier to understand than korean educational video. Thanks for great teaching video!
Really awesome! the progressional steps are very helpful! Thanks a lot!
I'm going for a sesh right now. Thx for thr motivation.
That’s a brilliant tutorial. Thanks for sharing that!
Awesome demonstration!
Excellent video. Thanks to you and your assistant :)
Great video about sliding and it applies to longboarding sliding too. According to my personal experience (downhill longboarding), the properties (stiffness, e.g., 75A vs 84A, and lips of wheels) do make a difference for sliding based upon just my personal experience in downhill - not in your SurSkate domain. But, of course, as your demo explained, the key is in shifting the weight to the "pivoting" foot over the the top of front truck's axial. Another thing is that I used my regular 50-degree longboard 10-inch trucks to make them extremely loose like even rattling. The behavior of the toe-hill board gives me all the similar to SurfSkate specialized board for me to carve like surf-skating in the downhill (or like using a very short snowboard over a snowy mountain). Thanks. Cheers!
Wow that is an amazing tutorial Mark! Thank you soooo much!!!
Thanks for supporting the channel Denise! You got those slides!
Great clip. Thanks Mark
I agree - there are no "magical wheels" which will suddenly make you slide if you couldn't initiate a slide previously.
The center of mass is another crucial factor - the more upright you hold your body the more likely your inertia will pull you off the board, and in order to prevent this people will be too slow and initiate too reluctantly rather than lowering their center of mass.
Going low makes the slide way more stable and controlled, and I noticed that pushing yourself slightly up out of your knees the moment you want to initiate sliding just as if you would want to do a little jump but without actually lifting your feet from the board takes your weight from your wheels just long enough to lose grip.
Thank You , I have fell on my elbow twice trying to slide on the roundhouse’s. Not good too upright , quick small slide then lockup then inertia throwing me down. Happened two weeks ago on the beach caught sand on the beach park concrete then got thrown down when the wheels stuck again. Too old too have bad technique and to get banged up 😮😕
Thank you bro! This is amazing!
Brilliant video. Cheers.
Great advice, thanks!
I learned this from your video 9 days ago and practiced several times. Now I can do this with all my surf skateboards. Thank U very much really!
Great to hear!
that helped so much, thanks!
Awesome. Thank you! I was just about to ask you for this tutorial 😁🤙🏻 You are “Mr. Slide”! If you could make a video using slides and other techniques to slow down downhill, that would be super cool. I have been hitting the pumptrack and I am having so much fun! I need to “update” my cc details 🙈 but then I will tip you for your great content! 👊🏻
Very cool and useful video, bro!
very useful thank you bro
Phenomenal advice
Thanks mate, will work on this technique. Create vid.
Thanks subbed!
Show, excelente demonstração, eu era um dos que dava grande importância nas rodas... Salvador, Bahia, Brasil aprendendo com você, valeu!!!
Adoro experimentar rodas diferentes, porque todas elas têm uma sensação diferente quando deslizam, mas é melhor aprender primeiro a técnica, e depois adaptar o seu equipamento.
Hell yeah!! First go after watching and I'm sliding round the kitchen haha thanks heaps 🤘
Love to hear it!
If it wasn't for the fact that it is over 100 degrees right now; I'd love to go up to my garage and practice every step of this great tutorial.
Awesome! I ran straight to get my board and try in my basement! And it works (very far from being easy and stylish as yours look)! But will keep practicing in my basement! Thanks for this easy tutorial and set up (basement) idea!
Perfect rainy day practice!
Great tip, thanks!
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Nice sliding! I would add not to try this for slowing down when at high speeds, unless you have harder/ rounded edge wheels.
Nice tip
Cool thanks
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man i love Locked the landmark surfer !
Muito obrigado. Merci beaucoup
you’re an awesome guy
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Sick board btw :). Have the same Carver Black Tip but I removed the risers and slapped on 97a wheels. Accelerates faster and more responsive for the bowl. You should give it a go!
G-bones?
Dogtown k9s! Soooo sick. 60mm 97a.
G-bones seem a lil big?
Had the carver parks too which were okay but prefer the dogtown wheels these days.
Check out the review!
m.th-cam.com/video/a7D2IBENEUk/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo
@@YimingPan Nice, will keep those in mind
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So good. I had no idea I was doing it so wrong
There are other ways to do it also without using this little hack, but they require a lot more power and precision. This is like a cheat code to progress faster.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I’ve been struggling for months so I’m happy to try the cheat way! :) can’t wait to get out and try
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This was so helpful. I'm finally able to do backside 180 slides on flats even though it doesn't look pretty (yet). I am having a hard time with frontside slides though. I can barely manage to get it to 90 most times. Any additional tips?
Upper body motion is the next step, whereas this is more focused on weighting. Really throwing your upper body around is important frontside. Shane Lai has a really good tutorial on frontside snaps that you should check out.
Great tip! can you also demo this with the decathlon carve540? I thought in your video review on that board, you mentioned that it was only capable of slides in those indoor type of skateparks with smooth non-cemented flooring? I'm really struggling to get slides with this board.
That is a really good point, and one of the issues with the carve 540 isn't just the wheels but the wheelbase and wheel location. Because the front trucks are so close to the nose it is tougher to get your foot right over the front wheels to unweight the back without getting into a somewhat awkward stance. I think this tip would help still, but it is part of the reason I am not a huge fan of deck designs where the front trucks are right up against the nose.
hi Matt, are you aware of a similar deck but 2" longer wheelbase? Thanks much
PS yeah if you want to slide those wheels easily, wait til it rains 🤣
This helped me get my slides going - thanks so much! Is there a difference between learning to snap and powerslide? I find that I'm getting some progress on frontside snaps, but I still can't powerslide on a cruiserboard, and am now wondering if I'm mistaken in believing they are similar moves.
Some people use the term interchangeably but I think there is a difference. A snap is more about quickly swinging the back around and then getting it back into alignment - It comes from surfing. With a powerslide, it is more of a skateboard/longboard trick - I see it more like you are trying to sit in the slide and get all 4 wheels sliding. Much harder to powerslide on soft cruiser wheels unless you are on slick terrain.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer yeah I can't seem to translate the snaps onto powerslides on my cruiser boards. But maybe I just need more practice!
Thanks Mark, awesome tips, helped a lot. I feel my Orangatang Stimulus 70mm 80a's are throwing me off once I manage to slide them. I'm having to give them a hell of a thrashing to get them to slide and then the grip kicks in and bucks me off. It's possible but not pretty. Can I ask the dreaded question? "what wheels are you using?" haha!!! No seriously, I am thinking of going harder and smaller to ease up the sliding... Love all your vids BTW - from another Mark, not so landlocked but no waves here. cheers!
Honestly I don't have a set of wheels that I've thought "I need these on all my boards". I am happy with a number of different ones: Powell Peralta rat bones, Orangatang Love Handles (after breaking them in), the stock Smoothstar wheels, Santa Cruz Scudwads in some applications, Shark Wheels in some applications... I am going to make a video at some point, but have others to test.
Thanks Mark. Really interesting. I will definitely start playing with different sets as well as hopefully improve my technique 🤙✌️
Hey MJ - I run the same O-Stimulus and have no problems sliding. If fact, I even run 85mm 4Presidents on another board and slide at-will. It’s all in the technique. Mark’s tutorial is all you need and just get in the reps (or hours)🛹
@@EleuLee hey thanks dude. Yeah I can of course confirm that once a sorted out my technique, I’ve got them sliding nicely. Main problem was struggling to unweight that back foot! Thanks for the advice
I cant move the tail what do you advice?
Hola tienes un gran contenido y sigo tus videos, en este debo disentir porque para la gente que usa el surfskate como entrenamiento para el surf estas enseñando la técnica equivocada, (quitar peso de detras y pasarlo delante en en surfboard hará que se te clave el noose en el agua) un correcto snap en el agua clavas las quillas en la ola para tener el control y es exactamente lo contrario que estas enseñando
I understand what you are saying and you are right, however, as with all of my content, I am teaching people how to slide on a SurfSkate as its own discipline, not how to use a SurfSkate to learn to snap a surfboard in the water. Some people use a SurfSkate just for surf training, but more people use it just for fun and I think those that know how to surf will know not to dig their nose in the water! Living where I do, where I have seen the ocean only once in the last two years, I am not positioned to teach about using a SurfSkate as a surf trainer. Someone like Kale Brock would be a better resource in that regard. But thank you for pointing out this important distinction!
To learn that way of snapping is quite tricky if you are thinking to improve your surfing as you can not put your weight in your front foot like that.
For sure, this technique isn't for surf training, just for having fun on surfskates
Honestly, with this though surface you will need to optimize your weight on the front truck and the optimal range is so narrow, as we saw that at 5:55, that will normally not able to hit the sweet spot and it will hurt your upper leg muscle with more repetitions. It will take more time to master that sweet spot and not easy to remember most of the time.
Let me clarify that I am not advocating that you should be practicing slides stationary with roundhouse wheels on a gym mat. It was a way to demonstrate how the unweighting technique can be used to slide with almost any wheels on almost any terrain. Too many people were under the impression that they needed a certain wheel to be able to slide. Adding in forward rolling movement and less grippy ground surface will really open that range.
Concave wheels have less contact patch than normal wheels am i wrong? You have less weight to pull no? I have been struggling with my slides and it seems that "grabbing" your board with your backfoot while shifting weights helps a lot. I think you did the same. Please help!
In a way you are right and in a way you are wrong! When you look at concave wheels, it looks like only the edges are touching the ground, but when you are on your board, those thin lips squish down beneath your weight and act almost like a plunger, making them very grippy. Also, you made a great observation: hanging your toe or heel over the edge to get extra leverage is very effective at putting some more power into your slides.
May be a dumb question. Does this work on a normal skateboard?
I wouldn't think so completely because a regular skateboard doesn't lean enough to unweight the wheels on the opposite rail, but the principle of getting your weight over the front trucks to slide the back should hold true.
Do you have any tips for sliding a yow because whenever I slide it the board just nose dives when I bring it back
It might just be a matter of lots of practice and repetition, but it could also be your body positioning. The YOW system has a bigger offset of the axles, so you want your front foot and weight over the axles of the wheels, not over the bolts when you are unweighting. As long as your front foot isn’t in front of the wheels, it shouldn’t nose dive. So try scooting your foot back a touch and lots of practice. Fine tune your weighting and positioning as you go and make note of how your board reacts to those small changes.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thank you 🙏🏼
Wich surfskate trademark use un you video?. Thanks
Tenho um simulador de surf a roda dele não é tão seca, para conseguir fazer rasgadas desse tipo a roda precisa ser muito seca?
Estou a usar uma aplicação tradutora, mas não entendo "seca" - Poderia reformular a pergunta?
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer roda dura, quanto mais dura melhor para dar as rasgadas ?
@@eduardodeoliveiradossantos7594 Não, é mais complexo do que isso. Há deslizamentos de rodas moles e deslizamentos de rodas duras. Os escorregas de rodas duros são mais difíceis de controlar mas mais fáceis de deslizar mais longe. Os escorregas de rodas macias consomem mais potência mas são mais fáceis de controlar sem escorregarem fora de controlo.
I do try to do this but find as I start to slide sometimes the board tips too far as the truck twists under where your feet are. So finding how far forward to place your foot is hard. More practice it guess.
What trucks are you using? It should be okay on most systems as long as you don't get in front of the front axels. The tips here are more about shifting your upper body weight forward rather than shifting your foot position, but if you have a long wheelbase or a board with the trucks right at the nose (I don't like those designs partially for that reason) then you may need to shift your feet too.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Curfboard and C7
@@StevieMacVFX Find that sweet spot for food positioning and keep practicing, this technique should work on those trucks!
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thanks mate. I just need to commit more and keep practicing. Keep it up mate great tut as always.
How far apart are your wheels
The wheelbase on this board is 17.5”
stf 4 spitfire 99
Carver Cx?
Yes in this demo it is on CX
That's a really great technique break down BUT it doesn't mean that using specific wheels won't help getting the technique in the first place. 🤔
I admit that I filmed this unscripted and I definitely probably overstate my case. Yes wheels affect things and if you try this technique over and over and over with no success, maybe it is worth looking into different wheels, but with most brands complete boards, you can learn with the wheels that came stock.
Merci !
Merci beaucoups!
the technique you show doesnt work on a surfboard, you basically put your weitght on the front foot while not even parallel to the "lip" and slide your tail around. this does work easily on concrete, but in the water you had to push your fins all the way around while having no traction in the front. its more surfing like if you initiate the slide way later with more emphasis on the back foot to push. just my toughts on that
You are right, my video is to help people struggling to slide their wheels on a surfskate, it is not intended to teaching surfing technique.
i jut went outside and busted my aaa
Its a good technique but if you use it as a surf trainer, you will get nosedive if you emulate to same technique on a surfboard. I learn my lesson.
Proper technique instead of throwing money at the problem? Booooo
I am a proponent of learning the technique and then also throwing money at it.
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Thank you so much Bill! Glad you found it helpful.
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Been trying snaps for 6 months and doing it all wrong! This is the best tip ever! Tried to initiate it similar to a kick turn but it didn’t feel right.
Keep up the great work!
@@YimingPan That is another way to do it, and probably the better way to do it if you are only training to do it on a surfboard, but this way produces smooth slides on a surfskate that look steezy!
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