Kyle LOSES IT On Jordan Peterson | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on TH-cam. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on TH-cam, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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JP is one of the biggest tools around
He's literally a tool for hire.
You mean fracking isn’t the perfect solution to wealth inequality? Shucks
Yep, complete helmet
stools
@@Nickelodeon81 🤣
Politics is not your thing - Bill Burr
I would pay big money to see Peterson vs Burr
As a Canadian I would like to apologize for inflicting Jordan Peterson upon the 🌎 we're sorry
It’s like Ben Carson. Knows a thing or two about brain surgery, absolutely clueless about politics.
Give him hell, Kyle.
It makes me smile to think that Andrew Tate gave JP’s daughter ‘hell’ 😏
Strange a man with so much background in psychology would not understand his own cognitive bias, but that is how it works. Critical thinking is hard; too hard for Mr Peterson.
well put my friend.
Bro thought ancient people knew about DNA because they drew two snakes banging.
También hay psiquiatras enormemente deshonestos o enfermos mentales
Imagine living in a world where you could be arrested or suspended for saying Stop Killing Children, all because you might be hurting the feelings of the killers😢😢😢
Okay this one hit me hard - well said!
I like Kyle and agree with much of his stance on Peterson but Kyle is absolutely NOT "well versed in foreign policy". I really hope people don't consider this a foreign policy channel. Kyle has a good moral stance on issue's but he knows nothing of geo-political strategy, there are far better channels for that sort of thing than Secular Talk (and Peterson admittedly).
Ooooh nail got smacked on the head there
No need to imagine.... we're living it.
JP doesn’t follow his own rules. “Abandon ideology” is literally a rule of his. And he joined the daily freakin wire.
Well said.
Abdanon ideology -- and pushes Christianity. Abandon Identity -- yet he is a white Canadian
I had a bad feeling about Jordan Peterson from the start and rightfully so.
I had more than a feeling.
To think that a guy who literally breaks down in tears talking about marginalized incels who are in pain cannot shed one tear for the thousands of dead children in Gaza is astounding. It’s almost as if he’s selectively melodramatic and grifting.
Someone pointed out that whenever he's tearing up about someone's struggles he's usually actually tearing up about how he changed their life and how important he was to them. I try to avoid thinking I can know with certainty what's going on in somebody's head, but . . . I really can't unsee it.
Almost as if meaning very much so and indisputably the case.
He identifies with the incels 🤢
Exactly bro. All these self help gurus are the same.
Exactly! plus Peterson simply does not have the balls (in addition to being bought/paid for).
Peterson talking about victim mentality is hilarious considering he has such a martyr complex.
😂..Great observation!!!.. I'm surprised that I hadn't made that connection until reading your comment..ty!
Martyr complex is a near perfect characterization of Peterson
I'm sure Peterson is/was a very good clinical psychologist BUT he really has no clue about politics or anything of that.
And honestly, I dont think he's even very intelligent. How often does he not say things along the line "I dont know how to put my thoughts into words."...
@@andreaskarlsson5251He, has no clues about almost everything
I am not a pro-Palestinian protester.
I'm an anti-genocide protester.
It doesn't matter if I "like" your religion or ethnicity, genicide is wrong.
Why so Hamas?
@@harryseaward3190 what do you mean?
@@jturtle5318 "So what you are saying is you support Hammas and you are paid by Russia" - Jordan Peterson
Well if you're not blindly supporting Israel, you must be pro-Hamas, right?
@@student99bg LOL!
"Givem' hell" disqualified everything rational he ever said in his whole life. Period.
He tweeted something that imo was worse than this a few days later, saying that he’s having nightmares about a nuclear apocalypse that he hasn’t had in 30 years. It's as if he's warning us of the looming danger that the escalation of conflict brings while simultaneously portraying himself as some kind of modern-day prophet. And that was right after he publicly welcomed the escalation with “give them hell”. This was in the first few days of Gaza being bombed. It just f-kn infuriated me.
@AhmedN42 why arab and other muslim men ever listened to him. I always know these are hypocrites.
@@AhmedN42 he's an incoherent nitwit. Ideal and in fact required " qualities" for a secular holy roller. There's a legion of adoring simps out there who think he practically walks on water. Laughless satire.
I like Kyle and agree with much of his stance on Peterson but Kyle is absolutely NOT "well versed in foreign policy". I really hope people don't consider this a foreign policy channel. Kyle has a good moral stance on issue's but he knows nothing of geo-political strategy, there are far better channels for that sort of thing than Secular Talk (and Peterson admittedly).
@@alexl4342 That is not relevant for me and it is not the point of the matter here. There may be far better analysts on geopolitical issues, but we are discussing JP supporting crimes against humanity and claiming to be a moral figure at the same time.
He is totally corrupted.
He predicted his own fall. He compared it to surfing a wave that would eventually crash. He was so right. I just never thought it would be so embarrassing when it happened.
@@MisterNiles I remember when he was on Rogan in like 2018 and said it might be about time for him to retire from the public sphere a bit. Sad he could have made an elegant exit like the old roman virtue, but for some reason he kept on with the public speaking. Kinda seems like most who deal with this political stuff go insane after a while, might be a matter of looking into the abyss and the abyss gazes back at thee. Even Kyle who has been able to stay rational better than most has become a little bit more partisan lately
Yes, Kyle is.
@@TheLuigiBrother77 "You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain."
@@TheLuigiBrother77or he just got corrupted by money and the influence of the daily wire aka aipac.
"But I have a theory! People talk psychology when they want to sound smart, right??"
*Peterson:* "CORRECT!!"
"So if we strawman, people might think we're good!"
Peterson knows psychology, he weaponises his status to try to convince everyone he knows what he’s talking about on the subjects of women, religion and politics. Watch him debate Matt Dillahunty and Sam Harris who are true intellectuals. They make him look like a stupid schoolboy and he can’t stand it.
I used to think Jordan Peterson was level headed and knew what he was talking about but over the last half year I have been horribly disillusioned by him. I now see him as a sell out!
Better late than never 👍
How long did he have you fooled? He always seemed... unreasonable to me.
Peterson isn’t a sellout, he’s always been full of shit.
lol, he’s been an obvious grifter from the start. He sounds like a smart person to dumb people. I can’t believe so many people fell for his bs.
@@edbarrett7692 Not that long he seemed to be reasonable for about 2 months then he fell off the sanity van into the stupid bush and hit every branch on the way to the floor.
Calling protestors Hamas is a threat, not a misconception.
I like Kyle and agree with much of his stance on Peterson but Kyle is absolutely NOT "well versed in foreign policy". I really hope people don't consider this a foreign policy channel. Kyle has a good moral stance on issue's but he knows nothing of geo-political strategy, there are far better channels for that sort of thing than Secular Talk (and Peterson admittedly).
@@alexl4342very true. Non of these blowhearts really has a clue about anything.
@@FylgiaForMyFolk That's a bot. It literally repeats the same comment. Kyle's criticism obviously offended it 😆
Remember his interview of Netanyahu 😅 That's when he hit the rock bottom 😂
his sycophant nose turned into brown instantly in that interview and he smelled the stinky kosher coffee
Peterson suffers from the delusion that since he had a successful platform discussing a narrow range of subjects, that he is now magically qualified to speak on all subjects.
The technical term for that, in psychology, is the smart idiot effect. Experts often fall prey to it, with anything outside their field of expertise.
The ironic part is he probably knows about it. Yet he still can't see it in himself. Then again, even in his own field of expertise, he doesn't come across that smart.
One of his worst if not his very worst is when he talks about climate change. Beyond cringe!☹
@@MarmaladeINFP I'm not a psychologist, but I've often thought he isn't as smart as he's made out to be. He has always said ridiculous things that made me think, "WTF?".
exactly
@@lorrilewis2178 same but he’s intolerable since he found his audience
Protestors: I’m against the killing of civilians
Peterson and his ilk: You support the hammies and are anti-chew
Hamas is Gaza, as most Gazans support them. The protesters are either lying or ignorant
@@peterroberts4415 What's that you say? The people getting invaded support the people fighting the invaders? Why I never. Who could have predicted?
@@Anglomachianwicked sense of humor……lmao
@@peterroberts4415 Hamas financed, funded, controlled, directed, steered, and propped up by Netanyahu since 2005, what do you have to say about that?
@@illwitness Just another L by Israel.
He is a weirdo seriously
A joke about psychologists is that they go into the field to try to figure out their own problems. Which they are frequently quite neurotic about.
@@macrosenseI thought that I was relatively normal for years,then when I started a job where counselling troubled youth was involved, I found that I empathised a little too well with... lunatics. I wasn't there long! 😂
@@edbarrett7692damn 😂
Spot on mate 😂🥂👍
The Abraham accords should be named the backstabber judas accord, that's a fitting name
The irony lies in the fact that despite JP spending a significant amount of time discussing and cautioning against oppression and genocides, when one occurs right in front of him, he lacks the courage to acknowledge it for what it is.
Not only that but he becomes an active propagandist in favor of war crimes.
To be honest, I used to listen to Jordan Peterson, but after October 7th, he just showed his true color. He's like Ben Shapiro right now. I can't stand him anymore.
Yeah. Same here. I liked his old psych lectures and his views on free speech. I'm very disappointed by his framing of the protests. I'm very disappointed that he hasn't kept that same energy on speech for these protests.
He works for him and other Zionists
@@sarahg2653 He never believed in defending anyone's speech but his own. It was transparent to anyone willing to be even the slightest bit critical of him.
@@sarahg2653 Don’t tell me you fell for the bill c-16 crap.
@@revlarmilion9574 Okay.
i was a JP fan in 2016, watched his stuff for years, noticed him getting weird, started feeling concerned, then disappointed, then disgusted, and now hes completely unrecognizable
That's exactly how it happened for me. Exactly.
@@itsjeninMassMe too.
Me too. The bit I struggle with is whether he was always like this or whether he just went mental? I think he went mental due to audience capture and, ironically, the relentless hyperbolic attacks from the wokies in the early days. The irony is that he actually became the monster they accused him of being over time. I remember many completely unfair totally biased attacks against him from the left in the early days. Totally vicious and unfair slander about him being a nazi and homophobe transphobe misogynist etc etc. Nothing he has said at that point even remotely made him any of those things.................but after his break down and pivot to the right he has morphed into the very thing he was slandered as being. It been quite distressing to see this monster being created by the forces of the interweb.
Either that or he was always a total bellend and just hid it well in the early days.
Summed him accurately, he’s regressed to being a fool.
I love Kyle Kulinski’s deep passion for the truth and stating the facts.
Jordan Peterson has lost all credibility. He’s lost all relevancy since joining the daily wire. The man has become a joke.
He lost it when he was caught on camera with a messy room after talking about the importance of a clean room
Him and Joe Rogan.
@@KeithGreenan-d9e no rogan is still good. Peterson and daily wire were fine until the jewish sht. They both disappointed me on that issue
I mean he has suits like a DC villain, he's not to be taken seriously.
The man made his name howling hysterically about pronouns back in 2016. He's always been a joke.
J.P is a clown 🤡
All he cares about is 💵
I disagree, he is mostly correct about psychology and such stuff. But about this comment on twitter.. yep, thats total bullshit. 100% behind Kyle.
That's an insult to clowns
He’s done more with his life than radical left-wing nutjobs like you or KK will EVER do. You will NEVER come close to achieving what he has.
Well done amazing, Jordan is a puppet anyways, he’s lost most his fans
The facts are indisputable. Palestinians live in an apartheid, colonial-settler state, one that has dispossessed them of their land for some seventy years, has forced them to live in dehumanizing conditions that are worse than an open-air prison (unlike Palestinians, inmates are not periodically bombed), persecutes them for their religious affiliation, devastates them economically, seeks to (and yet has failed to) break them psychologically, interminably terrorizes and periodically massacres them as a policy (some of Israel’s politicians speak of killing Palestinians as ‘mowing the grass’).
Jortdon is a grifter. He exploits the misery of lonely men
Nah, he always promised to stir up right wing extremist positions and that promise he kept.
he's making sure they remain lonely and miserable. what woman wants an abuser in her life?
I promise you, if you go back to his lectures in the classroom…you will hardly recognize the Peterson of today. At first I thought my attitude was going berserk, especially when I got blow back on my comments about the ‘strange’ new Peterson.
And maternal grandmothers..
@@margaretjohnson6259Amber Heard agrees with your hypocrisy 🤡
He is no better than all who support evil when it comes to money.
Him avoiding the opportunity, in fact a duty, for him to mediate the pinnacle conversation of his life - a debate between Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens - his supposed life's work, starting with his 15 years spending 3-4 hours per day writing his first Maps of Meaning book - his attempt to understand how the horrors of tyranny-fascism can occur; he or the Daily Wire handlers of his account blocked me on Twitter-X when I called him out as an intelligent ideologue for his "give 'em hell!" tweet literally calling for for Hell on Earth for the Palestinians - completely contrary to his supposed life's work. I've genuinely wondered if the medication he started taking to help with pain - but hasn't publicly shared what he's taking - may be a mind-altering medication and that could be causing-increasing this sociopathic-anti-social behaviour, it known that SSRIs etc increase no only thoughts of and actual suicide rate, but also of antisocial-homicidal thoughts and behaviour.
Even a sex worker has more integrity.
Totally agree. Kyle's grift is evil and all about the money at the end of the day.
@@63saruman At least they're actually doing a job, unlike Kyle.
@@waltergrace565 Controlled opposition
For a guy always arguing for Christianity, he sure doesn't argue in good faith.
He's not a Christian either, he's just using it for his own objectives.
@@aishaarshadalam3412 He doesn't even believe in God! He has been asked by multiple people "Do you believe in God?" and his answer is the most absurd every single time. One of them was "what do you mean by 'do' what do you mean by 'you' what do you mean by 'believe' what do you mean by 'God'.
@_Gunner_ he says a lot of word garbage like Amber Hearst answering questions in the court. He is her male version
The whole time they were saying, flatten it, it will be a parking lot... pure evil
The fact that he abruptly ditched his patients at his psychology practice for fame and fortune should have told us all we needed to know in the first place.
JP lost his mind after being humiliated in the debate with Slavoj Zizek, and Zizek didn’t even try.
You think that debate showed him up, go watch the Dillahunty one
Jordan Peterson is peak cringe 😬
how
@@marvin2678hes a 75 year old repressed 17 year old edgelord
@@marvin2678No reason to stand with Israel.
@@marvin2678But he does.
@@marvin2678He stands with genocide. That's why.
JP finally got some sleep... only to wake up a cranky old man.
Thats true, he should never have stopped his benzo abuse, he was a lot smarter and looked much healthier
At least he let his maternal grandmother have her way
He didn't say a peep when Candace was cancelled by his own network.
You know where he stands
So true, I thought that he would of at least intellectualize it away. But his not saying anything at all made me wonder if he thought his silence would go unnoticed. No, his silence speaks volumes. As for Matt, Ben kept saying that both he and Matt has different views and opinion, but we have not heard Matt differ from Ben. That is just Ben lying to justify his action. In the end, these men wanted to create a bully-men show at Daily Israel Wire. Let these Zionist birds of a feather flock together. Lets see who first will start laying the eggs.
His old school videos where he’s teaching psychology classes are actually pretty good and he’s extremely engaging. On the other hand, once he got into politics and especially once he joined the DW, he became impossible to listen to or take seriously.
It makes me smile to think that Andrew Tate ‘had’ JP’s daughter 😏
That was before the prescription pill abuse. He went off the deep end the last few years.
Good? Hes obsessed with symbols. He thinks it's in our psyche to draw the DNA helix.
Jordan Peterson is sounding a lot like Hillary Clinton. 😆 🤣 😂
A lot of right wingers have sided with her saying she was right when she criticized the university protests. SMH & pathetically predictable. Just like Fetterman doesn't like criticism towards Israel & far right conservatives are in love with him.
They were separated at birth
A long time ago I had a thought experiment that if you follow Jordan Petersons' ideology, you end up with a scenario where you cannot protest, argue, fight, or struggle for progress because you have to be a perfect person in order to have an opinion. It's funny you came to this same conclusion.
JP's central philosophy of organizing your own life before trying to change the world has always been garbage. First of all the people most affected by the injustices of the world are going to be the worst off, so you're telling them that they can't speak up. Secondly it's leveraging guilt and shame to compel people into inaction, since you're telling everyone they aren't good enough to try to change anything
It kinda makes sense though. It's the idea that only the most competent people should be the ones implementing change in society. Rephrased that way it doesn't seem objectionable, at least to me.
@@dominod5640 He said that if you aren't brilliant you should be a conservative, cause you would have less chance of being wrong. Like if you're in the bottom of Amazon's hierarchy you should accept and support Bezos exploitation , cause he simply is clever then you.
@@muffinman2946question is than why that does not happen?. The world Power Nr. 1 has a gaga President and his oponent is Trump. Are the string holders behind that, the most capeable persons in USA or is it the more money? And by the way who decides which are the most elegibel, intelligent and capable people if not themselves?
How is someone supposed to be a perfect person while under an imperfect system that is being enforced upon you by imperfect ruling elites? Why do the victims get judged and dismissed for being imperfect but the outright evil of those doing most of the harm is rationalized away?
Let’s be honest, if he doesn’t straw man the protestors he will be fired from the Daily Wire.
I thought that's how he got famous, going against the grain. Looks like he's changed.
But he would still have his integrity intact… either way, he’s a sellout or just plain gross 🤮
@@orbiting99-zh6ehMy friend, he never had any integrity in the first place.
He has never known what he was talking about. He talks about Marxism he doesn't know anything about it, not even the basics. In the debate with Žižek he even admitted to have only read one half of communist manifesto out of all the Marxist books. In the same debate he tried to debunk Marxism by saying that although some capitalists exploit their workforce most capitalists don't. Which sounds great, right? The problem is in Marxism profit is exploitation, there can be no profitable privately owned company without exploitation. He either doesn't know what is meant by exploitation in Marxism or he is shamelessly lying.
He said communists killed tens of millions of people. That's another brazen and shameless lie. He cites black book of communism and similar books that have no evidence in them, all they have are wild guesses and extrapolations based on individual crimes. No Westerner during and shortly after the cold war could have possibly known how many people communists have killed on the other side of the iron curtain.
Declassified NKVD files showed that monster Stalin killed 700-800 thousands of Russians in the 1930s (which makes Stalin a horrific monster). Outside of this period no mass murderers happened. Only 1% of gulag prisoners died there during peace time.
Jordan Peterson took the data that shows former communist countries emancipated women and presented the data with the spin that women are more emancipated in countries where there are less feminists.
He manipulated and lied even on shit that doesn't matter. I remember hearing him say oral tradition can remain unchanged for hundreds of years, he needed that fact to make some point which I don't even remember, it wasn't anything important, but I remember this argument that he made because even middle schoolers in my country know that oral tradition can survive unchanged for hundreds of years. In my country we have many epic poems and each poem has many versions because not one of them would survive unchanged for hundreds of years. That's why we say those poems have a "collective author" as many people added, subtracted, changed the poems.
In one of his earlier videos (really earlier videos, before 2014 if not from 2000s), he blatantly lied that there was no gambling in Canada before Canadian government created the lottery. Gambling has existed for thousands of years, from at least the times of ancient Rome and Greece and he says Canadian government was to be blamed for the fact that gambling exists. He has to know that's a lie.
Anyways, I am off track here, the point is he will blatantly lie even when it comes to unimportant stuff. I guess if you want to be really generous to him you can say that he just makes stuff up when he talks publicly, but that's not much better than lying.
What especially gets under my skin is the confidence with which he either deliberately lies or talks shit about things he knows nothing about. And he does so publicly.
There are more things, but I am tired to write more, it is 2 AM where I live (Serbia). I am glad you now see him for the fraud/liar that he is.
I don't know why he cares. He's probably got more money than Candace, and she did the right thing.
@@kennygee2715Owens? You think Candace Owens knows HOW to do a right thing and why it's important to do them? Is it possible she did something that both looks correct and serves her well...
THANK YOU FOR SIMPLY BEING HONEST .
Why is so difficult to acknowledge dead children , without dipping in politics , holocaust and religious bigotry ?
because they really don't care
"Give'em hell Netanyahu, enough is enough..." - Jordan Peterson (twitter)
I used to like JP & his old lectures, especially those based on how easy the average citizen fell into a certain regime in 1930's...
Ever since he joined The DailyLiar, he's really shown his true colours...
Sure he also did a segment on Irish history that was totally whack... he's shown himself to be willfully ignorant...
He is now one of those people that support a tyrannical regime committing Nazi like atrocities.
He has never known what he was talking about. He talks about Marxism he doesn't know anything about it, not even the basics. In the debate with Žižek he even admitted to have only read one half of communist manifesto out of all the Marxist books. In the same debate he tried to debunk Marxism by saying that although some capitalists exploit their workforce most capitalists don't. Which sounds great, right? The problem is in Marxism profit is exploitation, there can be no profitable privately owned company without exploitation. He either doesn't know what is meant by exploitation in Marxism or he is shamelessly lying.
He said communists killed tens of millions of people. That's another brazen and shameless lie. He cites black book of communism and similar books that have no evidence in them, all they have are wild guesses and extrapolations based on individual crimes. No Westerner during and shortly after the cold war could have possibly known how many people communists have killed on the other side of the iron curtain.
Declassified NKVD files showed that monster Stalin killed 700-800 thousands of Russians in the 1930s (which makes Stalin a horrific monster). Outside of this period no mass murderers happened. Only 1% of gulag prisoners died there during peace time.
Jordan Peterson took the data that shows former communist countries emancipated women and presented the data with the spin that women are more emancipated in countries where there are less feminists.
He manipulated and lied even on shit that doesn't matter. I remember hearing him say oral tradition can remain unchanged for hundreds of years, he needed that fact to make some point which I don't even remember, it wasn't anything important, but I remember this argument that he made because even middle schoolers in my country know that oral tradition can survive unchanged for hundreds of years. In my country we have many epic poems and each poem has many versions because not one of them would survive unchanged for hundreds of years. That's why we say those poems have a "collective author" as many people added, subtracted, changed the poems.
In one of his earlier videos (really earlier videos, before 2014 if not from 2000s), he blatantly lied that there was no gambling in Canada before Canadian government created the lottery. Gambling has existed for thousands of years, from at least the times of ancient Rome and Greece and he says Canadian government was to be blamed for the fact that gambling exists. He has to know that's a lie.
Anyways, I am off track here, the point is he will blatantly lie even when it comes to unimportant stuff. I guess if you want to be really generous to him you can say that he just makes stuff up when he talks publicly, but that's not much better than lying.
What especially gets under my skin is the confidence with which he either deliberately lies or talks shit about things he knows nothing about. And he does so publicly.
There are more things, but I am tired to write more, it is after midnight where I live (Serbia). I am glad you now see him for the fraud/liar that he is.
He always creaped me out. Now my intuition reminds me to trust it without hesitation.
I can’t believe the disrespect that he has for young people. I’m not sure who he insults more, the young women or the young men. He reduces them to over sexed idiots without a clew of what matters to them.
Salvo si apoyan el estado nazi de israel, entonces serían jóvenes inteligentes, bien formados, con espíritu crítico etc
It's weird that Jordan thinks others are bitter - he seems bitter every time he speaks!
Thank you a lot for speaking the truth man. Love all the way from Kuwait. Keep spreading the truth please. The world do need people like you.
Does anyone still care about what Kermit thinks?
Incels
he stopped talking about psychology he became just another political pundit for the daily wire who happened to be a psychologist.
I love Kyle's interpretation of Jordan Peterson's advice to young men is be clean, be polite, STFU 😂
My grandmother gave me the exact same advice 20 years ago lol
Don’t forget “wipe your ass”
Its not like Shakespeare tho is it?? He hit the nail on the head really
The irony here is that the guy who was telling others to change their life and focus on having it in perfect order before changing the world is the same man who went through a benzodiazepeine addiction, withdrawal, and constantly breaks down and cries every time he's challenged in debate. Thanks Kyle for calling him out on his bullshit.
Bro thanks so much for telling the truth and owning all those warmongers including Peterson.
Hell yeah, get em’ Kyle!
hes mad because someone stole his lucky charms
It was me, fuck him, not giving them back.
Ms piggy stopped f*cking him.
😂😂😂😂
For Jordan Peterson it’s all about the benjamins. He doesn’t have a principaled bone in his body. It’s the money, Lebowski.
Jordan Petersen: A career without a man for a man without a career.
This should really be the description for him whenever someone mentions him
@@ibraheema7036 Appreciated, but the club footed intellectual boot fits, right?
At protest today there was a surgeon who has just returned from a 14 day visit to Gaza, she spoke of doing 30 amputations (without anaesthesia) in a space of 10 days! 😢
I wonder if he has brain damage from his extreme benzo withdrawal, and treatment in eastern Europe?
That is an honest question. I don't know what affect addictive drugs might have on the neurocognition, personality, and ideology. But social science research has shown that certain kinds of ill health (parasite load, pathogen exposure, etc) can increase sociopolitical conservatism and right-wing authoritarianism. It is useful to note that, while getting treatment for his addiction, he got a severe infection that almost killed him. He looked really bad for a time and it's highly likely it did permanent damage. So, if it wasn't for the evil he now supports, one might be tempted to pity him.
Oh yea it makes sense why his narrative is totally opposite to what he preaches
Scott Galloway said the students were protesting because they weren't having enough sex, so I'm not surprised by what Peterson is saying.
People still taking JBP seriously in 2024? 🤔
If people are still taking Trump seriously, then nothing else surprises me. Hell, people still watch Fox News and Newsmax.
You'd be shocked. I still see people I otherwise respect posting his quotes. It's depressing.
He really wasn’t bad when he was all about self help. But his pandering to the worst people on earth is so sick and disgusting now.
Incredible speach Kyle !! Wow !! You nailed it ! Bravo, from Montréal
Even his own thing about trying to help "disaffected young men" is really just gross and in many ways toxic. It's just toxic masculinity branded differently
Nah his self help stuff is good. He’s a complete dip shit as soon as he steps into politics
he was always political he got his start with misrepresenting Canadas C16 bill fearmongering about trans people.
He was heavily promoted by Joe Rogan . He was on Rogan podcast for 3 hours dressed in a tuxedo
Yes, and his whole "clean your room" schtick is just the usual "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" nonsense. Just telling social progressives and leftists that we can't campaign for a better world because we don't live in one. It's just conservative nonsense.
How do people forget that? It was what rocketed him into infamy. He was blatantly wrong about that. But he never admitted to being wrong.
Peterson's "philosophy" was always based in religious extremism.
I wouldn't go that far.
His work on psychology & self improvement is actually solid. He helped lot of people (both in Christian & Muslim world). But his take on this situation is shocking to say the least.
@@miki_9034 I'm not surprised. After leaving his job as a professor, he's become more of a megaphone for hire.
Probably your best video. Thank you
Kyle had many, many, many great videos over the years. If you want to see more dunking on this fraud in video form you can find an old school Jimmy Dore video debunking Peterson's lies and manipulation on climate change.
I used to not understand how an entire country could fall in behind Hitler....now I do. Throwing morals, decency and integrity in the bin for a bigger paycheck is the norm. Those who swim against the tide are the exception.
I agree, it was something I really struggled with when I was learning history. Don't people KNOW the difference between right and wrong? I think a lot of propaganda is generated to strike fear into people, and when they are afraid their rational thinking goes offline and they are driven by pure emotion. This is why Israel supporters always ask "does Israel have a right to exist" because they have been raised to think everyone wants to kill them. And really, nobody gives a fig what a person's religion is, ironically the reason people are against Israel is because of how it behaves, and the behaviour is the manifestation of the fear they are taught. A perfect circle of hate and lies.
Nailed Peterson 👌👌👌
The way it started with a sigh 😂
Kyle, Excellent, excellent summary. Peace to you and thank you for letting the world know what is happening. You are doing great work.
Jordy here is a good example of "chronically online" in human form.
Kyle didn't lose it "ON" Jordan, he lost it "AT" JP.
Jordan Peterson aka White Deepak Chopra 😅😅
I liked him in 2016-18ish. His self help stuff actually worked for me and I found his psychology talks and recorded college history classes interesting. Current day Jordan Peterson is basically if you took him in 2016 and magnified all his bad qualities times 10 while dividing the good qualities by the same amount. He’s a caricature of his former self. It’s been a real bummer to watch
Ya, I dont care for the political Peterson. I enjoyed tons of his work, but when he talks about climate, I tune him out.
Well, his psychological talks and self-help talks were not that helpful to begin with. Whatever.
All self help is a grift. Listen to George Carlins bit on it for a good laugh
No this is the real Peterson. A grifter and a clown.
I never found the whole "make your bed" thing to be very pensive. Telling people basic things like that doesn't require a psychology degree. Now you have a demographic of young men who thought they'd be successful automatically if they make their bed and dress nicely, and they're angry at the world that it didn't pan out.
Not to mention, Peterson platforms himself on being a logical man of science, then tells people Jesus is the one true god. He has a psychology degree, and uses that to pretend to be an expert in economics, business, law, biology, chemistry, physics, history, geography, etc etc. He's a fraud who's one true talent is debating. But winning a debate doesn't make you right about the substance.
Straight up, this needs more likes. I never liked the guy, he was always a bad actor in some fashion, people in comments saying they liked him back in 2018 or something, like what? I'm glad I guess that he is being exposed to more people now at least..
I’ve been debating this with people on Tiktok a lot, they really do only have 3 arguments: “pro Hamas” “anti-semetic” or “not real war crimes”
Palestinians are Semites too.
Or deflection such as "its not 15,000 murdered children, its only 8,000 murdered children"
Neither of those points being arguments. It's deflection.
Thanks lord i wasn't wrong about that liar since the beginning.
The same Jordan who folded like a wilted lilly when he “debated” Zizek.
"Now youre on my turf son" hit hard, love it! So true 😂 1:18 - 1:37
Kyle doesn't know dick about life. Get real.
This is really good, the title doesn't do it's justice, was considering skipping. Glad I didn't
Mr. Free speech working for Daily 'overton window' Wire is just laughable.
If you want to fight for a country that has been at war for thousands of years, go over and help tuff guy.
I just recently watched the Some More News episode on Jordan Peterson. My god was it eye opening. Its hard to take this guy seriously but millions actually do.
Not any more.
How come Mr.Robster needed to mention "Childless Women" ?
What does Pro-Palestine demonstration have anything to do with Childless Women ?
He's scared of them both
Just some slander to polarize the people! Peacemakers!
He can’t help it, he’s a misogynist
Plus, just look at all the mothers (and fathers) and kids on the marches. It's precisely because they are parents that the suffering of PaIe5tinian kids affects them so much.
Peterson has abandoned evidence and integrity in favour of tribalism and lazy sloganising.
He hates women who buck their biological directive. He also crapped on progressive college professors who he thinks are just tackling social issues to make up for not having children to mother. They want women confined to domestic life so that we won't be as involved in public life.
King, well done Kyle. Enough with these frauds and their seeds of hatred and division.
Jordan Peterson has become a joke a clown. Talking about "helping young" while supporting mass bombrent of children, youth, mothers and fathers. Talk about irony.
Kyle, you’re hurt bro.
Something about an emotional man with bleached hair yelling about politics is funny. Calling JP “boy” and a “fraud” is also funny considering he has far more life experience, is incredibly intelligent and more accomplished than Kyle.
I love that Kyle is SO HUMBLE!
Free Palestine
Meaning what, precisely?
@@spiderguy418give them their houses back and leave them tf alone.
@@Jessica-gy6kr their houses in just the West Bank and Gaza Strip?
@@spiderguy418 f it, all of them. 😒
@@spiderguy418 enough is enough already
Jordan has fallen so much relevancy and credibility among his non white supremacist audience his staunch support has genuinely polarized many previous muslim towards a more progressive area, especially in Canada
Canadians have voted intelligent in over a decade!
I bet you vote for Trudeau
@@packman633I bet you simp for PeePee, the ghoul who failed as Harper's housing minister, who will do nothing for Canada's economy. One of PeePee's best friends and a current MP is a CEO with dozens of rental properties. Wake up.
Jordan has generally fallen much relevancy and lost many "fans" incl. me
Non white supremacist, 😆
Tbh I don’t think this is true from what I have seen, as a fellow Canadian. If anything, I think Muslims in Canada have drifted towards even more extremist conservative voices during the last few months, especially when said far right voices not only oppose Israel, but also espouse violent anti-LGBTI rhetoric.
Jordan Peterson talks a lot about nothing, completely detached from reality. And now a puppet of Daily Wire.
Kyle, you still overrate Jordan Peterson as a psychologist. There is nothing remotely original in his self-help.advice.
I was a big Jordan Peterson fan back in the 2018-19 era. If I look with a sober mind at the time, he was one of several that helped me finish getting through college, I was a very depressed engineering student. I did not take the move to Daily Wire well. If you get me going I will rant and rave about how he's betrayed half of the people his psychology advice could help because he's segregated it behind a right-wing news outlet's paywall.
All that to say, my speculation as to why he took the political turn - specifically to the anti-establishment right - is because his biggest critics came from the pro-establishment left. Classic case of "these people with this set of politics bullied me and now my brain is broken and I run into the arms of the political ideology that is the most antithetical to them that I can possibly find".
I'm not a fan of JP, but it's refreshing to hear that it sounds like Kyle actually read some of his books and then criticizes, rather than strawmanning what he said in the past.
He is even worse in his books. You can find people on TH-cam reading several pages of JP's books. He has always been a radical, insane pro religious person who hid it at the time because he knew he would lose most of his audience if they knew how insane he was. And no, they didn't take out of context nor straw man him, they would read a couple of pages from his book and criticize it.
Jordan Peterson is also a brazen, shameless and deliberate liar. He has never known what he was talking about. He talks about Marxism he doesn't know anything about it, not even the basics. In the debate with Žižek he even admitted to have only read one half of communist manifesto out of all the Marxist books. In the same debate he tried to debunk Marxism by saying that although some capitalists exploit their workforce most capitalists don't. Which sounds great, right? The problem is in Marxism profit is exploitation, there can be no profitable privately owned company without exploitation. He either doesn't know what is meant by exploitation in Marxism or he is shamelessly lying.
He said communists killed tens of millions of people. That's another brazen and shameless lie. He cites black book of communism and similar books that have no evidence in them, all they have are wild guesses and extrapolations based on individual crimes. No Westerner during and shortly after the cold war could have possibly known how many people communists have killed on the other side of the iron curtain.
Declassified NKVD files showed that monster Stalin killed 700-800 thousands of Russians in the 1930s (which makes Stalin a horrific monster). Outside of this period no mass murderers happened. Only 1% of gulag prisoners died there during peace time.
Jordan Peterson took the data that shows former communist countries emancipated women and presented the data with the spin that women are more emancipated in countries where there are less feminists.
He manipulated and lied even on shit that doesn't matter. I remember hearing him say oral tradition can remain unchanged for hundreds of years, he needed that fact to make some point which I don't even remember, it wasn't anything important, but I remember this argument that he made because even middle schoolers in my country know that oral tradition can survive unchanged for hundreds of years. In my country we have many epic poems and each poem has many versions because not one of them would survive unchanged for hundreds of years. That's why we say those poems have a "collective author" as many people added, subtracted, changed the poems.
In one of his earlier videos (really earlier videos, before 2014 if not from 2000s), he blatantly lied that there was no gambling in Canada before Canadian government created the lottery. Gambling has existed for thousands of years, from at least the times of ancient Rome and Greece and he says Canadian government was to be blamed for the fact that gambling exists. He has to know that's a lie.
Anyways, I am off track here, the point is he will blatantly lie even when it comes to unimportant stuff. I guess if you want to be really generous to him you can say that he just makes stuff up when he talks publicly, but that's not much better than lying.
What especially gets under my skin is the confidence with which he either deliberately lies or talks shit about things he knows nothing about. And he does so publicly.
There are more things, but I am tired to write more, it is after midnight here where I live (Serbia, former Yugoslavia).
Jordans gotta get back to psychology and stop hanging out with daily wire.
He's bound by a contract, that's why he can't even talk about Candace.
Lost All respect for JP when I realized he is weak... he care about luxury money and expensive suit, in reality he has no honor he is a pretender... a pretender how love attention
Thanks kyle
Kyle finds Peterson's life advices interesting? The anti-childfree statement? The anti-porn cruzade? The life's morals being a product of the Bible? The earn your freedom of expression depending on how clean your room is? Pfft... Kyle come on! 😒
This has been Jordan Peterson this WHOLE time. His ideology hasn't shifted, he's just directly addressing issues now that show why he was grooming everyone on his "clean up and steelman debate" courses.