Part 2 is out where we rate all the trainer classes like Grunts, Beauties and Ace Trainers - th-cam.com/video/68Y7r2-PSMI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MPXPRfhK6DLO4hX3
@@Ditto.007 I can NOT tell for shit if you're trying to Rizz that guy up and or casually threatening them EITHER WAY SOMEHOW SOMEWAY I'M UTTERLY TERRIFIED
@@blakdeth What part of my comment made you think that I saw it as a negative thing? It just means i find the grunts more funny and goofy rather than attractive
@@blakdeth Idk about Ditto, but personally, it isn't that funny and goofy is unattractive, iit's just that it would make a character cuter, and cuteness and hotness are two separate things that have separate scales.
Actually if you can make a compelling enough argument, you could say that this is science, as it could be talking about why we are attracted to other people.
Ron, sometimes we don't need a good reason. If there's 2 two things I will always commend Pokemon for it's their music and their ability to make good looking characters.
The wisest of the wise, it's castform! But seriously, I have to agree on that, the music is hella good, I've been listening to an orchestral remix of "Through the sea of Time" from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and ohhh boy it is good! Here is a link, thank me later: th-cam.com/video/di7Ycfca4Ag/w-d-xo.html
I love that the most attractive male characters are on the "daddier" side of the spectrum like Drayden, Rose, Peony, Turo, even Sycamore and i gotta say i completely agree
Steven being ultra rich kinda hinders his character tbh He's basically the president and DIDN'T nationalize the company that he's the heir of despite his familly running it. The company that is one of if not the most important in the region. That has basically a monopoly on tech.
still can't believe Kaylynn gave STEVEN STONE a 4 you have NO IDEA how much of a crush I had on him when ORAS came out, and I stand by it. also he's described as being attractive multiple times in game so it's canon
I genuinely love nexus. Hes so over the top, and it fits his personality SO well. Hes honestly been one of my favorites since before the dark days of lumiose station
“Every sexuality thinks Rika is attractive” As an aroace person who happens to be a big fan of Rika, yes I can very much confirm that she is the Ryan Reynolds of Pokemon
Calling Wulfric a Home Depot employee TOOK ME OUT. Also I fully agree with Kaylynn’s opinion on Anabel, she is damn close to best girl and is *criminally* underrated.
I feel like the reason for recent years pokemon designs being more attractive is also partially because of the introduction of pokemon masters/masters EX. Gacha games draw on their characters' visual appeal first and sensible design second. Designing characters thatd easily draw people to pull for them is a core idea for gacha design. So i think that does play a role in a lot of the decisions made in later games. I love a lot of the whacky older designs, but Im also not immune to Rika's incredibly hot gnc appeal. Lusamine may be hot but she's colder than the south pole xD
"[Norman]'s a dad who stayed" Yo, he literally lives _two towns away_ from his (probably ex-)wife and kid. BIG separation energy there, he's totally only seeing that kid every other weekend.
From what we see he actually still lives in the house and the gym feels more like a commute to Petalburg. That being said, he seems to have the gym as his main priority since he can't take a day off to go and see a meteor shower with his wife.
@@castform7 From what we see? It's been a couple years so maybe I'm forgetting something, but I don't remember him having a room, any of the stuff we can inspect in the house being described as his, or even seeing him set foot inside once. We literally see _nothing_ implying he lives in the house, beyond his child and (possibly ex-)wife living in the house which doesn't exclude the idea he could be separated or divorced from the player's mother and living in Petalburg, where his Gym is.
@@RikkuEcRud To be fair, our own mother doesn't have a room. Those stairs in the players house lead to the singular room that belongs to the player. And we actually do see him in the house. The Delta Episode postgame of ORAS starts with the players mom telling Norman she got tickets to the Mosdeep meteor shower and how Norman would like to go but has to temd to the gym that day. Not only is it displaying that they live together but also that she genuinely wants to spend time with Norman.
Aight, Larry is a great character, but that is because he is literally DESIGNED to look average! That's the point of him. He's just a dude working his 9-5 and because of that, he is relatable, not hot.
Is N even an adult? I thought he was the same age as the player character. Although 2 years difference would make him legally an adult but it's still kinda weird. Cutting it a bit close ya know?
An hour long video with Ron, Numbnexus, Kaycreigh, and Vergolophus talking about the hottest pokemon characters. I can already tell this is gonna be a banger video 🤣
See here's why i would struggle so much because the Pokemon Adventures versions of the characters from gen 1 til 4 have completely overwritten their game counterparts in my head. That manga is *amazing* and makes a lot of the characters so much better and more complex. And some characters are down right evil in it like Lorelei, whereas Bruno is the one original e4 member I now respect the most out of them xD
They made Lorelei good again in the FRLG chapter. In hindsight they should’ve made it that she was under mind control like Bruno instead of being willingly complicit in genocide. With all due respect to the original chapters, I like that the FRLG chapter had new characters to serve as villains instead of turning gym leaders and Elite 4 members evil.
I don't know if anyone will read this but I need to clarify how wrong Ron is about Gordie Gordie is canonically a handsome and hardworking trainer who cares deeply for his fans. You can see by his interactions in the Gallar tournament that he's not rude at all His bad relationship with his mother is also %100 her fault. From a young age he was forced to train a type he never wanted by a mother who's teaching style is describe with words like "ruthless", "fierce", and "stoic", It's no wonder he hates her now. This is even acknowledged in the manga where Melony is fully aware of this and hates herself for it
JelloApocalypse also made a video on this topic, and it's so funny to see how similar or different the specific opinions are, e.g. how Bertha must have been hot af when she was younger, or that Ghetsis's outfit looks like a carpet :D
Ron during Johto: Why are you guys listing negatives but saying it makes them more attractive? Ron at Alder: Canonically he does not know how to use a computer, which makes him more attractive! Hmm...
I don't see the problem. All he said was Alder, in canon, doesn't use the PC. That's not even close to anything negative. Negative would be like what he was saying about Gordie. You know, like "He's toxic. He's rude to his mother. He's constantly mean around her when she's just smiling and being nice." THAT is listing negatives. Stating a fun fact like "Alder doesn't know how PCs work" is not listing a negative. That's just stating a fun fact that most people don't even know (I certainly didn't know that, but I also didn't know his official art showed him with more than six poke balls, so it also makes sense why he has more than six on him).
@@vgmaster02 Ok, not trying to be rude, but you may need to brush up on what a negative is. A negative point can still be a fun fact, but just not be beneficial to the person in question. And it's he doesn't know how to use a PC, not he doesn't know what they are.
(Edit) Y'all hurt me with the low scores for Piers, like dang. He's my 1st 10 out of the list, second being Adaman. First-ever Dark Type gym leader, and they nailed it. I love the Rockstar vibe, and he's a super caring big brother. I love Piers, I really do.
Bro Piers and Adaman were my first two 10s of the list too! Like, their personalities definitely help out in the ranking, but their designs are absolutely peak!
In a subjective opinion, they should've also had the Pokemon Masters EX sprites for a more updated rendition. Also, have you seen Sygna Suit Lusamine and the three variations of Cynthia??!!!
It's probably just because it's the most modern region and the designs keep getting better with each generation, but I like to think that they included so many attractive character designs in Paldea because they think people in Spain are hot 😂🔥 I hope they don't get disappointed if they come here to visit real-life Paldea
*Chuckles* Yes because the future is now thanks to science! Clemontic gear on! I thought we'd encounter a situation precisely like this one. I call it the objective hotness tier list!
There was a lot of bias for the fem-presenting characters :( How could Steven not be a perfect 10 smh I think this bias is shown a lot on PLA where Cogita and Volo are effectively identical facially and stylistically but have a drastically different score
@@TopOfAllWorlds even really fine older men were shafted i was flabbergasted. like kabu is FINEEE idc how old he is. also adaman and archie not getting full 10s is crazy even if they were still high rankings
I mean, people are going to have preferences. There's no bias, they just happen to apparently find feminine characters prettier. They're going to rate the characters based off how they feel, not you.
@@residentkane No, it is simply bias against male characters specifically, because Grusha is incredibly feminine looking, incredibly pretty, and still got an awful score when if he had been a woman, they'd have given him straight A.
I’m like halfway through the video so far and it’s been a pretty even split there are also just more conventionally attractive women than men in pokemon, the male characters generally tend to lend more into goofy designs and are thus more subject to personal taste while pretty much every single female character is designed to be conventionally attractive
Idk what y'all are on about with Ingo and Emmet.. especially Emmet. You have Ghetsis, literal gaslighter and child abuser a higher rating than both of them? They're supposed to look a little silly and creepy, that's the point of their design! They're really sweet too, and strong!
THANK YOU! The twins are awesome! I’m definitely not letting the fact that Legends Arceus made them my hyperfixation for the last 14 months influence my opinion. Definitely not.
YES. I don't think either are attractive, but I love them so much. I can see why people think Ingo's hot even if I don't. Also, their Masters designs look WAY better than their official art, especially for Emmet. They are not creepy!!!
25:55 Roark’s problem wasn’t genes: it’s that he spent too much time letting his Pokémon mine on his behalf. He needs some muscles to live up to Byron.
Certainly a very... interesting video... Although already at Erika, I had to think that making 8 just plain "Hot" is maybe a bit too restrictive, because I'd say Erika, and other later characters are definitely above just "Very Attractive", but "Hot" doesn't really describe them, I'd say cuteness ranks just as highly, like how coolness probably factors into a lot of the mens rankings.
Erika's the kind of girl you look at twice, and realize she's dressing in a way DESIGNED to be a bit frumpy. She doesn't WANT to "look sexy". She's just wearing stuff she's comfortable in. But an extrapolation of what she'd look like in a swimsuit? O-o' Suddenly you understand why she has teens who wanna be hot asking her for beauty secrets.
As annoying as clair might have been in the story, particularly with how she refuses to give her gym badge I will agree that her hgss design is probably one of the best designs in the game, because before her outfit was bland and monotone blue in color.and it felt like a bland precursor to the dragon tamer class, but in hgss her design has this sick Dragonair motif and I'm not gonna lie, those hips of hers are quite nice
36:44 Well, the Ingo and Emmet segments. The low scores just because they overshadowed another character kinda irks me a bit. Still a funny section(glad we are all in agreement the Arceus design was an upgrade, and Emmet is kinda creepy) but it does skew the ratings when the reason has nothing to do with the attractiveness. I like Anabel as a character too and agree she does need more attention(though I also agree the twins or really any faller has the sadder story because we know they’ve lost really close attachments and we either see their struggles or their loved ones struggles while Anabel seems to have more accepted the things that happened and lost the least) but that’s more on the fans than the characters themselves for that overshadowing
Y'all are WAY more generous than I would be for a lot of these characters. The bias from two of the 'judges' for certain characters/aspects of a character felt completely wrong to me.
My gay ass is sitting here just listening to bisexual and straights simp over women and I'm calmly giving them mid scores and then being shocked by their answers. Really opens my eyes haha. Lorelei shows up and I was like: "4 or 5, I'm not the biggest fan of her- Oh they all gave her 10s."
Same. This video definitely has strong heterosexual bias since even average women got rated higher. One of the girls gave Bertha a 7 while Steven a 4. The sheer audacity. Steven isn't a 4 from any angle.
@Shaedo same! I mentioned my fav guys in a different comment, but idk how Adaman, Volo, Turo, Kukui, Sycamore, Raihan, Leon, Marlon, and others got scores as low as they did.
@@Tamo8 there’s (as far as I can tell, don’t wanna assume) 2 girls and 2 guys doing the ratings. How can the female-skewed results of that be heterosexual bias? Are any of them even heterosexual? Don’t get what you mean.
Honestly a lot of guys got way lower ratings than I expected. Maybe this committee is just full of women kissers, but Grusha and Piers are some of those characters that to me deserved a 10. One is insanely cute, the other has such an attractive personality that I - also a girl kisser - want to kabedon my way into marrying him. Piers is like...... Damn. DAMN
grusha and rika were both phenomenally popular for the same reasons, so i'm really surprised that grusha scored so low :O and tbh, not to say i've searched it, but grusha has a lot of.... *that* kind of fanart >_>
You missed Clover. Her descendent Candice is too young but since Coin is confirmed to be the youngest of the Bandit Sisters and was included in this list, that means that Clover's an adult too.
Since personality was a factor I'm amazed Lusamine ranked so high. And the Paldea professors when they have perfectly good robot doubles who are just as hot but with the added bonus of not being evil or bad parents.
what do you mean by experts? there are no experts when talking about preference, everybody can love everything but by Ron only brought 4 people for this data, I’d say it’s not enough
this is such a great watch to have in the background of playing the series. i really love your videos like this that make me feel like i’m hanging out with friends !
34:17 'I think he's attractive, but like, to some people. And good luck to those people, truly. I'm happy for you." Thank you, I do like my Colress. He may be an internet explorer but my heart has a WiFi that's fast enough to handle him.
I fear there was a bias towards the female characters because they kept scoring higher than the most attractive males. Some men like Wallace did manage to end up on top, but it feels like there was still a preference that skewed the results. 9 generations and a male only got the top score in 2 of them.
Pokemon games have a tendency to design the female character as more attractive by default, there's way more ugly men than women. Just compare how fat men are designed ( literal circles) to the fat women ( voluptuous and curvy). By the way, I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing , I'm just making a general observation.
But they gave Opal 6, 8 and 7.5 and that old lady looks uglier than most male characters presented. There is no way you can see her and think "yeah she is atractive". There is a clear biased here and Opal shows it very well. Sometimes I thought that they didn't even ranked this based on atractiveness because there were a lot of characters that had the body of a literal child and if you consider that hot then you might have a problem.
Also that's the male gaze for ya. If aliens came, from a third person point of view, started rating humans you would probably be in for a surprise. You will probably get the same results you would get if you rated male Gorillas vs female Gorillas, humans are apes after all and our dimorphism although it is way less than a Gorilla the differences in general are the same.
It’s Cynthia 1. She’s confident and powerful 2. She has this kind mysterious aura 3. She’s physically attractive 4. At least in the anime she has a playful side 5. Her love of ancient mythology and religions is honestly cool 6. Her choice in fashion and Pokémon team sync up and are cool
@@chill-lady-brook Yh, I gotta agree, canonically she isn't the strongest (that title goes to Leon in games and Ash in anime), beauty wise I think there are way prettier blondes in Pokemon like Elesa, in terms of plot...she has none I mean when your dead psycho gramps is more interesting you know there are problems
Re Blaine: I honestly never considered the fires indoors. Between his his fire typing, and the volcano aspect of some of his gyms, the shades makes sense.
Not going to lie with how many people I've heard thirsting over N I kind of expected him to be rated higher lol. I mean he wasn't really given a low rating it's just that I'm used to hearing people talk about how he's hot whenever he is brought up. It's okay N, you're still a 10 to me.
The image they used of Lance makes him look like he's mid-teen to me, so yeah... Also, I absolutely love Geetas' official 2D art over her model any day. She is in my top 3 champion designs based purely on their official 2D art
The fact that Cynthia isn’t a stone cold 10 to every non-asexual person that sees her is unbelievable to me. She is the best girl. And it’s not just that she’s hot, her personality is fire. She goes on adventures to research legendaries, she’s the strongest champion (her team is honestly close to OU viability, her ace is a fucking Uber!) she’s analytical and smart, but has the attention span of a 3-year old, and worse ability to decide anything.
Cynthia has a something that just doesn't do it for me, I would give her a 9. She just doesn't have that mommy vibe that I like in characters tbh. She's an interesting character tho, a shame she's from Sinnoh.
As an asexual, Cynthia would be a good 9 if she didnt have those weird hair things. I have no idea what the hell they even are, but those completely ruin her design for me
Part 2 is out where we rate all the trainer classes like Grunts, Beauties and Ace Trainers - th-cam.com/video/68Y7r2-PSMI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MPXPRfhK6DLO4hX3
And thats the reason I watch this one first. xD
brutal i can’t join the conversations they seem fun
@@truegreen7 I hope the hula dancers got 10s
Hey, how can we get these photos?
An entire 1 HOUR video about how hot pokemon characters are is real dedication.
"Uhhh, it's 1 hour AND 10 minutes🙄" - 🤓
Mhm
@@Ditto.007 *WHEEEEEEZE* :|
@@Sp3ctralI Oh no he's wheezing! Do you require medical attention? I can do CPR😏
@@Ditto.007 I can NOT tell for shit if you're trying to Rizz that guy up and or casually threatening them
EITHER WAY SOMEHOW SOMEWAY I'M UTTERLY TERRIFIED
Using the hoenn ace trainer, and rainbow rocket grunt for the "no hot generic characters" rule was objectively correct
The Hoenn ace trainer I can understand, but after seeing the rainbow rocket grunt T-posing, I can never take her seriously 😂
@@Ditto.007 why would seeing a 3d character tposing be a negative thing? That's how you design 3d models it makes it easier to animate.
@@blakdeth What part of my comment made you think that I saw it as a negative thing? It just means i find the grunts more funny and goofy rather than attractive
@@Ditto.007 how are funny and goofy unattractive? That sounds like a plus to me
@@blakdeth
Idk about Ditto, but personally, it isn't that funny and goofy is unattractive, iit's just that it would make a character cuter, and cuteness and hotness are two separate things that have separate scales.
The fact that it was Swordward and Shielbert that prevented Galar from being in the top three hottest Pokémon regions is hysterical to me
That’s the Bri’ish Royal Family for you
@@justadummy8076at least our leaders aren't convicted felons/demented
But they also forget ranking Bea so it could be higher
@@Staavetrako Bea is a minor, which they didn't include
@@smartalecl4
They also didn’t include adults who are just short like Hapu
Never in my life did I expect the phrase "I have been reading a lot of mafia smut" in a truegreen7 video and yet here we are
Wait what, time stamp please???
@@godyfoolf4:10
too bad too sad giovanni STRAIGHT TEN I LOVE MONEY AND MEN❤❤❤
@@KitKatZeraorayou're real for this I fear
Literally me reading Stop Hibari-Kun.
I’m honored to be a part of such an important contribution to science and society as a whole
Do not lie, this is not Science, this is not Clemont's beautiful Science
@@ImyIsStillHere it is
@@lbexlbn 🤨
Actually if you can make a compelling enough argument, you could say that this is science, as it could be talking about why we are attracted to other people.
@@SWAMPuS if ya say so...
Galar mom being labeled in the spreadsheet as "Mum" was great lol
Also the final overview was very insightful and much appreciated!
I don't get it
@@viper6691 "Mum" is the British spelling of the word "mom"
@@Miju001 oh. It's yhe Australian as well that's why I was confused
@@viper6691 Ooh, very fair
Galar is based on uk
Gordie: “He’s a 5, he’s rude to his mother”
Lusamine, a literal child abuser: “10! What a queen!!!!”
🤔
I've learned that people are willing to look past a character being a terrible person if they're conventionally attractive.
Double standarts
@@CommanderWiggins
That is unfortunately the law. A pretty blonde girl will get away with more than a chubby dude.
There are two different cases xD Gordie is rude to his mother, but Lusamine is rude to her children xD
@@ArcanaEric We live in a society
Ron, sometimes we don't need a good reason. If there's 2 two things I will always commend Pokemon for it's their music and their ability to make good looking characters.
The wisest of the wise, it's castform!
But seriously, I have to agree on that, the music is hella good, I've been listening to an orchestral remix of "Through the sea of Time" from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and ohhh boy it is good!
Here is a link, thank me later: th-cam.com/video/di7Ycfca4Ag/w-d-xo.html
They really don't miss, especially in the past few generations. (This applies to both music and character design)
@@CommanderWiggins past few generations definitely. To pick two characters from Gen 7 and on
Kukui & Olivia
Peony & Melony
Rika & Nemona
Giving Grimsley a 5 is criminal. And he's not broke. He was able to retire comfortably in Alola.
He retired and then lost all his money gambling
I love that the most attractive male characters are on the "daddier" side of the spectrum like Drayden, Rose, Peony, Turo, even Sycamore and i gotta say i completely agree
Straight up agree.
koga
and then there's Adaman who solos everyone
@@velvetvessel This.
And yet the dad bod characters like Chuck and Wulfric get the shaft
i'm surprised adaman wasn't full 10s, he's probably the most attractive pokemon character there imo.
I definitely didn't fill my switch gallery with pictures of adaman
i agree, he has drip, good looking hair and body, confidence overall great design
@@hello_hello_hello948 I did the same, my switch gallery is just full of screenshots of Adaman and Rika 😭
Bro adaman just turns me on
they cant handle tboy swag
giving Wallace a 10 then giving Steven a 4 is a telltale sign of clinical derangement btw lock this person up immediately, send the ATF
Steven being ultra rich kinda hinders his character tbh
He's basically the president and DIDN'T nationalize the company that he's the heir of despite his familly running it. The company that is one of if not the most important in the region. That has basically a monopoly on tech.
They both a 10
@@Oranges2124 Ain't that the truth
@@TopOfAllWorlds
I could fix him.
So true, steven best character in Pokemon idc
22:41 “ok, let her cook”
I love that both Vergo and Ron knew that Anabel was coming lmaooo
I like how he mentioned all the characters they were rating are ADULTS. I was about to say…
Yeah, please no rating minors in terms of hotness guys!
Yeah! I’ve definitely seen some poketubers turn out to be creeps so this is nice
Poppy would be a little awkward
Aw come on! Why can't we appreciate the hotness of Dawn, Serena, or even Nemona? Just say they're aged up. Not like those characters don't get waifu'd
@@ZoruaMasterwhat
Red and Blue give such big Gay couple vibes in the Alola Games
From a lore standpoint I say that they're friends with a complicated history. From another standpoint I completely ship them.
@@HeroAkiiI dont like same-gender ships but all imma say is
Those two belong together more than Red and Yellow in pokespe
@@kaisshenanigansBlud that just means you’re homophobic
I know and I agree
They're both straight on sight, but they're dating.
still can't believe Kaylynn gave STEVEN STONE a 4
you have NO IDEA how much of a crush I had on him when ORAS came out, and I stand by it. also he's described as being attractive multiple times in game so it's canon
Steven is a mack. Old money. Give my man the 10 he deserves. They did him dirty because of his ORAS fit.
He's still hot
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEE HE'S A 10 BRO
FR LIKE IT HURT ME-
I won't stand for this Steven erasure.
The fact that nobody gave Guzma a 10 is criminal.
IKRR
Guzma was robbed, an easy 11
@@itsmeya_bard9383 nah wdym hes a 15
@@gloomiiii you know what? You're right. I'm sorry, I failed my man.
@@itsmeya_bard9383 no, i was being a harsh, he’s a 20
The mother list at the end was so unbelievably cultured
Perrin is a unanimous S btw.
Ngl
Speaking Truth
Descendants moment (she has your grandfathers eyes)
NO WAY YOU CAME BACK JUST TO COMMENT BUT I AGREE
As is fitting for Adaman’s (and potentially Irida’s as well) descendant.
"She's a nurse, I got booboos all over me"
*I'M ACTUALLY DEAD* 💀
I genuinely love nexus. Hes so over the top, and it fits his personality SO well. Hes honestly been one of my favorites since before the dark days of lumiose station
“Every sexuality thinks Rika is attractive”
As an aroace person who happens to be a big fan of Rika, yes I can very much confirm that she is the Ryan Reynolds of Pokemon
except Rika has provided no sh-t for me to be sick of, and I am absolutely done with Ryan Reynold's sh-t.
Universal standard smash club has started ig
Eh, a bit too androgynous for me, personally
As another aroace i can confirm Rika is hot
Another ace here, had to pause for like 5 minutes to look at Rika's glory. Had never seen her before, but she already has my heart.
Calling Wulfric a Home Depot employee TOOK ME OUT. Also I fully agree with Kaylynn’s opinion on Anabel, she is damn close to best girl and is *criminally* underrated.
You agree saying Anabel’s a 7?
SAME I died over the home depot employee part
I feel like the reason for recent years pokemon designs being more attractive is also partially because of the introduction of pokemon masters/masters EX. Gacha games draw on their characters' visual appeal first and sensible design second. Designing characters thatd easily draw people to pull for them is a core idea for gacha design. So i think that does play a role in a lot of the decisions made in later games.
I love a lot of the whacky older designs, but Im also not immune to Rika's incredibly hot gnc appeal. Lusamine may be hot but she's colder than the south pole xD
SWORDWARD AND SHIELDBERT BRINGING THE GALAR SCORE DOWN IS KILLING ME
Worst human characters in the whole series imo
@@shiruotakuno28Same
@@shiruotakuno28 even squidward looks better
They fuckin nuked it cx
"He's crazy. He looks like he collects teeth." I nearly spat out my tea from laughing!
Poor Emmet. The slander! qwq
😂
"[Norman]'s a dad who stayed"
Yo, he literally lives _two towns away_ from his (probably ex-)wife and kid. BIG separation energy there, he's totally only seeing that kid every other weekend.
From what we see he actually still lives in the house and the gym feels more like a commute to Petalburg. That being said, he seems to have the gym as his main priority since he can't take a day off to go and see a meteor shower with his wife.
@@castform7 From what we see? It's been a couple years so maybe I'm forgetting something, but I don't remember him having a room, any of the stuff we can inspect in the house being described as his, or even seeing him set foot inside once. We literally see _nothing_ implying he lives in the house, beyond his child and (possibly ex-)wife living in the house which doesn't exclude the idea he could be separated or divorced from the player's mother and living in Petalburg, where his Gym is.
@@RikkuEcRud To be fair, our own mother doesn't have a room. Those stairs in the players house lead to the singular room that belongs to the player. And we actually do see him in the house. The Delta Episode postgame of ORAS starts with the players mom telling Norman she got tickets to the Mosdeep meteor shower and how Norman would like to go but has to temd to the gym that day. Not only is it displaying that they live together but also that she genuinely wants to spend time with Norman.
He goes to work two towns over and is not divorced from his wife and goes back home every night.
I have such a soft spot for Adaman. Not only is he fine, but he reps for the diamond clan. Pokemon diamond was the first pokemon game I ever played.
As generations continue, Pokemon knows what people want to see, and they definitely make sure people get what they want
The fact that Larry was rated only a 6 overall is not just a crime, that is an unforgivable sin
Larry forgives them, they will learn to see his beauty, a true Michelangelo's David of the pokemon world
Larry is a 10 for me. Man has 2 jobs and I just love his personality.
I understand their rating for Larry, but he is a one million in my heart I love him so much he's probably one of my favorite Pokemon characters ever
Aight, Larry is a great character, but that is because he is literally DESIGNED to look average! That's the point of him. He's just a dude working his 9-5 and because of that, he is relatable, not hot.
Steven Stone was my fictional crush when I was 7 and he was given a FOUR?!?!
Ron asking the real questions here and finding the answers through flawless scientific methods, mad respect.
Flannery not being in S tier is criminal.
i can't believe they gave N a 7.5,he is a straight 10 for most ppl,he was our first pokemon crush in 2010s
He was my first ever fictional character crush, probably a lot of others too, the score is just plain disrespectful
I love N 💚💚💚
Yeppp like the only man I’ve ever crushed on
Natural Harmonia Gropius my beloved. The N also stands for neurodivergent.
Is N even an adult? I thought he was the same age as the player character. Although 2 years difference would make him legally an adult but it's still kinda weird. Cutting it a bit close ya know?
An hour long video with Ron, Numbnexus, Kaycreigh, and Vergolophus talking about the hottest pokemon characters. I can already tell this is gonna be a banger video 🤣
See here's why i would struggle so much because the Pokemon Adventures versions of the characters from gen 1 til 4 have completely overwritten their game counterparts in my head.
That manga is *amazing* and makes a lot of the characters so much better and more complex. And some characters are down right evil in it like Lorelei, whereas Bruno is the one original e4 member I now respect the most out of them xD
They made Lorelei good again in the FRLG chapter.
In hindsight they should’ve made it that she was under mind control like Bruno instead of being willingly complicit in genocide.
With all due respect to the original chapters, I like that the FRLG chapter had new characters to serve as villains instead of turning gym leaders and Elite 4 members evil.
@@firewarrior8298 imagine doing Genocide and then being like "huh that was bad actually" lmao
I don't know if anyone will read this but I need to clarify how wrong Ron is about Gordie
Gordie is canonically a handsome and hardworking trainer who cares deeply for his fans. You can see by his interactions in the Gallar tournament that he's not rude at all
His bad relationship with his mother is also %100 her fault. From a young age he was forced to train a type he never wanted by a mother who's teaching style is describe with words like "ruthless", "fierce", and "stoic", It's no wonder he hates her now. This is even acknowledged in the manga where Melony is fully aware of this and hates herself for it
yeah Gordie got shafted.
Oof, didn't know that
and they give a child abuser a 10 because “sHeS pReTTy!!!!”
Gordie’s a solid 15/10 😩
@@gloomiiii I can fix her.
You can’t convince me that Ron doesn’t have a secret grudge against Bill.
To go with the literal worst possible picture, that was a targeted attack.
Bill is one of my favourite Kanto characters
fr, like Bill in PokéSpe is around A to B tier to me
@@pokemonadventuresanimewhen3023 Bill is always great especially when the poor guy got roasted by Cassius in XY 🤣
JelloApocalypse also made a video on this topic, and it's so funny to see how similar or different the specific opinions are, e.g. how Bertha must have been hot af when she was younger, or that Ghetsis's outfit looks like a carpet :D
i'm sorry, my boy Leon is a 10 hands down: he's kind, directionally challenged and can't dress himself, he's a disaster I love him
He’s the gay neighbors best friends older brother 😭✋
@@eden_xoxoxo REAL
Ron during Johto: Why are you guys listing negatives but saying it makes them more attractive?
Ron at Alder: Canonically he does not know how to use a computer, which makes him more attractive!
Hmm...
Ah yes, the Shawn Michaels rule
I don't see the problem. All he said was Alder, in canon, doesn't use the PC. That's not even close to anything negative. Negative would be like what he was saying about Gordie. You know, like "He's toxic. He's rude to his mother. He's constantly mean around her when she's just smiling and being nice." THAT is listing negatives. Stating a fun fact like "Alder doesn't know how PCs work" is not listing a negative. That's just stating a fun fact that most people don't even know (I certainly didn't know that, but I also didn't know his official art showed him with more than six poke balls, so it also makes sense why he has more than six on him).
@@vgmaster02 Ok, not trying to be rude, but you may need to brush up on what a negative is. A negative point can still be a fun fact, but just not be beneficial to the person in question. And it's he doesn't know how to use a PC, not he doesn't know what they are.
About Koga stinking...that's actually make him a terrible ninja.
Also, funny you say Milo looks like Mirio. In Twilight Wings, he WAS voiced by Mirio.
(Edit) Y'all hurt me with the low scores for Piers, like dang. He's my 1st 10 out of the list, second being Adaman. First-ever Dark Type gym leader, and they nailed it. I love the Rockstar vibe, and he's a super caring big brother. I love Piers, I really do.
Bro Piers and Adaman were my first two 10s of the list too! Like, their personalities definitely help out in the ranking, but their designs are absolutely peak!
I hate every single part of Piers’ design and he’s still an 8/10 for me somehow
This vid is Piers slander and I will not stand for it. I adore that man.
Yeah I love Piers! He's one of the few 10s I gave
Same, some serious twink slander over here
the fact that N isnt a 10 from everybody is a crime
I was so offended, N is a perfect 10 😭
Hes shit
yeah what the fuck he is a 11
erm asckyaually it should be an 11🤓🤓
Draydren and Cynthia isn't even a 10
I am lowkey down bad for Adaman...on my first playthrough of Legends Arceus, as SOON as I saw him, I started simping.
If you give Cynthia a 10, you have to do the same for Volo and Cogita, because they all have the exact same face.
Volo’s hair kinda kills the vibe. Also he’s a dude so if you’re not into that he gets disqualified.
@@flowerfaerie8931 get out I won't stand this double
Cogita, yes. Volo, probably not
Yeah when my friends and I did this I was like “They’re IDENTICAL. You CAN’T rank Volo and Cynthia more than half a point apart!”
Implications...
Hearing Ron scream a characters name the second he put them on screen was absolutely hilarious and let me know where he was rating them
This was probably the funniest video I've ever watched lmao
Especially because I wouldn't have expected this from Ron
I didn’t expect Ron to be making this kind of Video.
But I dig it. I want more of this more unhinged typa vids.
Unhinged? He is answering the question of the century people!
@@Ditto.007 This is the question the whole community has wanted answered
I don't, this was dumb
In a subjective opinion, they should've also had the Pokemon Masters EX sprites for a more updated rendition.
Also, have you seen Sygna Suit Lusamine and the three variations of Cynthia??!!!
The Giratina dress?
Yes
sygna suit Grimsley looks so good too
sygna suit Leon definitely raises my score to a 10
@@byronlee991017 sygna suit Leon gives me "Wakanda Forever" vibes
I saw Sygna Suit Lusamine and I actually had to yell at myself for a bit. Had to remind myself that I hated her for all she did in S/M.
It's understandable how the mom category is filled with 10s
I like how they ignored the fact that Honey is Mustard's WIFE. Like can you imagine how he PULLED that?!
He’s a sugar daddy lmao.
He was hotter when he was younger, and she dyed her hair.
@@Monkebs45
Even if she didn't dye her hair she'd still be HOT
Bro have you SEEN Mustard without his shirt off?! He could literally break her back both ways😂
They're both 10/10 wdym? 😩
It's probably just because it's the most modern region and the designs keep getting better with each generation, but I like to think that they included so many attractive character designs in Paldea because they think people in Spain are hot 😂🔥 I hope they don't get disappointed if they come here to visit real-life Paldea
Spanish people are pretty hot in my experience. But being Mexican, I’m basically half Spanish, so it makes sense I would think so. lol
Raihan's design caught on with me immediately, it's just 🔥🔥🔥
They didn't give Raihan a perfect 10 and I will forever hold that against them.
Nexus: "This man is genuinely in love with a Pokémon. Weird!"
My guy just described half of the Pokémon fanbase.
I mean lopunny is designed to look attractive 😉
@@Heheheha-sh5zhGardivoir
It's a rabbit 💀 @@Heheheha-sh5zh
@@legionx4046gardevoir was designed to be a guardian angel but unfortunantly the internet disagrees😔
@@residentkane There are no rules against the Pokémon batman
To the guy who supported and stood up for the team flare girls, I owe all of my respect to you.
Steven was done DIRTY 💀
Ron and Nexus would agree
I've never clicked so fast.
I am Speed
*Chuckles*
Yes because the future is now thanks to science! Clemontic gear on! I thought we'd encounter a situation precisely like this one. I call it the objective hotness tier list!
@@theserpent8667 wow! The power of science is amazing!
There was a lot of bias for the fem-presenting characters :( How could Steven not be a perfect 10 smh
I think this bias is shown a lot on PLA where Cogita and Volo are effectively identical facially and stylistically but have a drastically different score
Yeah, they have a strong bias twords older men but no bias against young or older women. It's kinda crazy
@@TopOfAllWorlds even really fine older men were shafted i was flabbergasted. like kabu is FINEEE idc how old he is. also adaman and archie not getting full 10s is crazy even if they were still high rankings
I mean, people are going to have preferences. There's no bias, they just happen to apparently find feminine characters prettier. They're going to rate the characters based off how they feel, not you.
@@residentkane No, it is simply bias against male characters specifically, because Grusha is incredibly feminine looking, incredibly pretty, and still got an awful score when if he had been a woman, they'd have given him straight A.
I’m like halfway through the video so far and it’s been a pretty even split
there are also just more conventionally attractive women than men in pokemon, the male characters generally tend to lend more into goofy designs and are thus more subject to personal taste while pretty much every single female character is designed to be conventionally attractive
Idk what y'all are on about with Ingo and Emmet.. especially Emmet. You have Ghetsis, literal gaslighter and child abuser a higher rating than both of them? They're supposed to look a little silly and creepy, that's the point of their design! They're really sweet too, and strong!
THANK YOU! The twins are awesome! I’m definitely not letting the fact that Legends Arceus made them my hyperfixation for the last 14 months influence my opinion. Definitely not.
They’re soooo coool and sweet and strong and silly and GAAAAH 😍🙏❤️
@@xRaiofSunshine EXACTLY! There are also a LOT of people who are mad at Gamefreak because of what happens to them in Legends Arceus
YES. I don't think either are attractive, but I love them so much. I can see why people think Ingo's hot even if I don't. Also, their Masters designs look WAY better than their official art, especially for Emmet. They are not creepy!!!
Ghetsis is a 0
25:55 Roark’s problem wasn’t genes: it’s that he spent too much time letting his Pokémon mine on his behalf. He needs some muscles to live up to Byron.
i loved the part where ron and nexus were screaming yes for shelley XDDDDDD
Certainly a very... interesting video...
Although already at Erika, I had to think that making 8 just plain "Hot" is maybe a bit too restrictive, because I'd say Erika, and other later characters are definitely above just "Very Attractive", but "Hot" doesn't really describe them, I'd say cuteness ranks just as highly, like how coolness probably factors into a lot of the mens rankings.
Erika's the kind of girl you look at twice, and realize she's dressing in a way DESIGNED to be a bit frumpy. She doesn't WANT to "look sexy". She's just wearing stuff she's comfortable in. But an extrapolation of what she'd look like in a swimsuit? O-o' Suddenly you understand why she has teens who wanna be hot asking her for beauty secrets.
I vote that more Poketubers should do this. For science of course.
Also I must know if the slideshow for this is available. Also for science!
I’m not shocked about the existence of this Video. I am shocked about it’s length! This is true dedication! This is true simping! I love it!!!
As annoying as clair might have been in the story, particularly with how she refuses to give her gym badge I will agree that her hgss design is probably one of the best designs in the game, because before her outfit was bland and monotone blue in color.and it felt like a bland precursor to the dragon tamer class, but in hgss her design has this sick Dragonair motif and I'm not gonna lie, those hips of hers are quite nice
"himbo" and its a bunch of noodles LMAO
36:44
Well, the Ingo and Emmet segments. The low scores just because they overshadowed another character kinda irks me a bit. Still a funny section(glad we are all in agreement the Arceus design was an upgrade, and Emmet is kinda creepy) but it does skew the ratings when the reason has nothing to do with the attractiveness. I like Anabel as a character too and agree she does need more attention(though I also agree the twins or really any faller has the sadder story because we know they’ve lost really close attachments and we either see their struggles or their loved ones struggles while Anabel seems to have more accepted the things that happened and lost the least) but that’s more on the fans than the characters themselves for that overshadowing
I kinda want to see that person who said that further elaborate on why she hates them so much?
43:33 also: Alexa’s a journalist. That is not a low-risk profession (especially not in the manga where Team Flare is actually scary). She courageous
Y'all are WAY more generous than I would be for a lot of these characters. The bias from two of the 'judges' for certain characters/aspects of a character felt completely wrong to me.
My gay ass is sitting here just listening to bisexual and straights simp over women and I'm calmly giving them mid scores and then being shocked by their answers. Really opens my eyes haha. Lorelei shows up and I was like: "4 or 5, I'm not the biggest fan of her- Oh they all gave her 10s."
I’m Straight as Fuck and don’t get how Lorelei is ranked so high.
Facts though! I can’t believe not a single male character got a perfect score, Turo and Peony are so fine
Same. This video definitely has strong heterosexual bias since even average women got rated higher. One of the girls gave Bertha a 7 while Steven a 4. The sheer audacity. Steven isn't a 4 from any angle.
@Shaedo same! I mentioned my fav guys in a different comment, but idk how Adaman, Volo, Turo, Kukui, Sycamore, Raihan, Leon, Marlon, and others got scores as low as they did.
@@Tamo8 there’s (as far as I can tell, don’t wanna assume) 2 girls and 2 guys doing the ratings. How can the female-skewed results of that be heterosexual bias? Are any of them even heterosexual? Don’t get what you mean.
Giving Lenora 10s across the board but rating Piers so low and not giving Raihan all 10s is SO weird.
Raihan's fabuolosity blinded them for a sec.
the fab twink should get the 10's he deserved.
their piers rating shocked me, they did him so dirty
Honestly a lot of guys got way lower ratings than I expected. Maybe this committee is just full of women kissers, but Grusha and Piers are some of those characters that to me deserved a 10. One is insanely cute, the other has such an attractive personality that I - also a girl kisser - want to kabedon my way into marrying him. Piers is like...... Damn. DAMN
@@fedechan6325 i literally GOT the game because i wanted to see piers (and raihan) that badly
i was so shocked at Piers' results. like he is the hot goth rocker
grusha and rika were both phenomenally popular for the same reasons, so i'm really surprised that grusha scored so low :O
and tbh, not to say i've searched it, but grusha has a lot of.... *that* kind of fanart >_>
You missed Clover. Her descendent Candice is too young but since Coin is confirmed to be the youngest of the Bandit Sisters and was included in this list, that means that Clover's an adult too.
no way Riley and N aren't perfect 10's im losing my mind
Absolutely no one:
Nexus: “10”
(Raihan is sexy)
Grimsley topping out at AN EIGHT? An... EIGHT?! Even old SuMo Grimsley?? Are you all insane?
Purposefully not including Brock and Misty because they're canonically underage? i respect it.
timeline wise they are adults but they never got a design of them older like red and blue got.
I mean it wouldn’t matter, they aren’t real
@@shironasama0445 Yeah definitely this. People go pretending like Misty doesn't get a plethora of "suggestive" artwork.
so you’re saying Brock is younger than Jasmine? I don’t respect that
@@jean-pierrebenzenique have you seen brock standing next to Jasmine in the anime. Either she's huge, brock is younger or Brock is a small king
Since personality was a factor I'm amazed Lusamine ranked so high. And the Paldea professors when they have perfectly good robot doubles who are just as hot but with the added bonus of not being evil or bad parents.
Some people just don't want to bang robots.
I am personally offended that Steven Stone isn't a 10 across the board
So glad you brought in the experts for this one. Love Kaycreigh and Nexus!
what do you mean by experts? there are no experts when talking about preference, everybody can love everything
but by Ron only brought 4 people for this data, I’d say it’s not enough
@@jean-pierrebenzenique are you serious *pffft*
As someone who absolutely has a crush on Roark and assumed that was a universal opinion I was floored when he barely even got a reaction in the video
this is such a great watch to have in the background of playing the series. i really love your videos like this that make me feel like i’m hanging out with friends !
34:17 'I think he's attractive, but like, to some people. And good luck to those people, truly. I'm happy for you."
Thank you, I do like my Colress. He may be an internet explorer but my heart has a WiFi that's fast enough to handle him.
This is by far the pokemon video I have shared with the most people. Also truegreen I feel like your ratings were the most balanced by faaaaaarrrr
I fear there was a bias towards the female characters because they kept scoring higher than the most attractive males. Some men like Wallace did manage to end up on top, but it feels like there was still a preference that skewed the results. 9 generations and a male only got the top score in 2 of them.
I mean, that just means they all leaned towards preferring females on average, just the luck of the sample population
Pokemon games have a tendency to design the female character as more attractive by default, there's way more ugly men than women.
Just compare how fat men are designed ( literal circles) to the fat women ( voluptuous and curvy).
By the way, I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing , I'm just making a general observation.
But they gave Opal 6, 8 and 7.5 and that old lady looks uglier than most male characters presented. There is no way you can see her and think "yeah she is atractive". There is a clear biased here and Opal shows it very well. Sometimes I thought that they didn't even ranked this based on atractiveness because there were a lot of characters that had the body of a literal child and if you consider that hot then you might have a problem.
Also that's the male gaze for ya. If aliens came, from a third person point of view, started rating humans you would probably be in for a surprise. You will probably get the same results you would get if you rated male Gorillas vs female Gorillas, humans are apes after all and our dimorphism although it is way less than a Gorilla the differences in general are the same.
@@arminarlert7273 didn't they give that ranking because they were also considering the younger version of opal?
Or maybe I misunderstood?
Ron enthusiastically exclaiming DRAYDEN IS A 10 made my day lolol
I love how everyone starts hootin and hollering when Olivia appesrs ok screen. Y'all are so real for that.
It’s Cynthia
1. She’s confident and powerful
2. She has this kind mysterious aura
3. She’s physically attractive
4. At least in the anime she has a playful side
5. Her love of ancient mythology and religions is honestly cool
6. Her choice in fashion and Pokémon team sync up and are cool
Cogita too
Overrated af
@@chill-lady-brook Yh, I gotta agree, canonically she isn't the strongest (that title goes to Leon in games and Ash in anime), beauty wise I think there are way prettier blondes in Pokemon like Elesa, in terms of plot...she has none I mean when your dead psycho gramps is more interesting you know there are problems
Agreed, despite being the hardest champion.
If there's one thing I know about the Pokemon community it's that everyone wants Cynthia to step on them.
Re Blaine: I honestly never considered the fires indoors. Between his his fire typing, and the volcano aspect of some of his gyms, the shades makes sense.
The fact that Peony and Leon didn’t get all 10s is criminal 😩
Not going to lie with how many people I've heard thirsting over N I kind of expected him to be rated higher lol. I mean he wasn't really given a low rating it's just that I'm used to hearing people talk about how he's hot whenever he is brought up.
It's okay N, you're still a 10 to me.
The image they used of Lance makes him look like he's mid-teen to me, so yeah...
Also, I absolutely love Geetas' official 2D art over her model any day. She is in my top 3 champion designs based purely on their official 2D art
lance's hgss design is the best, he looks like a child in his LGPE art
HGSS Lance is amazing
love seeing an intellectual discussion in my recommended
Nexus was so real for screaming "YES" when Shelley came up.
Also it makes me so sad the character that shares my name is SO UGLY.
“She’s going to build me a shelf from IKEA and not read the directions” OMg I’m dead XD
This might’ve been the worst rankings possible, there were so many hot men that were completely overlooked
N, Steven, Grimsley, Volo among many others. The bias was incredible here.
The fact that Cynthia isn’t a stone cold 10 to every non-asexual person that sees her is unbelievable to me. She is the best girl. And it’s not just that she’s hot, her personality is fire.
She goes on adventures to research legendaries, she’s the strongest champion (her team is honestly close to OU viability, her ace is a fucking Uber!) she’s analytical and smart, but has the attention span of a 3-year old, and worse ability to decide anything.
Tbh I'm asexual and she's still a 10 for me lol
Cynthia has a something that just doesn't do it for me, I would give her a 9. She just doesn't have that mommy vibe that I like in characters tbh. She's an interesting character tho, a shame she's from Sinnoh.
As an asexual, Cynthia would be a good 9 if she didnt have those weird hair things. I have no idea what the hell they even are, but those completely ruin her design for me
A nat-9 but personality makes her a 17. If I was a sinnoh trainer and I met her I’d develop a weird crush on her immediately
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