Probably the strangest "review" I've seen. It's liken to watching a recently separated middle-aged guy go on his first tinder date. He is still thinking about his ex while trying to justify looking for a new one. 🤔
100% get it. I swapped from a 2005 ZX-6R to a 2016 FJ-09, and kept modding it to chase something a little sportier. First a shorter windscreen, then removing the handguards, upgrading the suspension and exhaust, and I had a proper ripper on my hands. Sometimes the perfect bike for you doesn't exist and you have to take something imperfect and get as close as possible. ...but then I traded it in on a Ducati Streetfighter V2 and I couldn't be happier.
I agree. Had 2015 model, same upgrades you had...what a blast! For twisties, sportwise and even touring...I miss THIS tracer, not the tamed present version
This is why the formula for the number of bikes you should have is n + 1. Get a sport tourer for sport touring, big adventure for mostly road touring and a mid adventure for more balanced off road to road touring. Then a supermoto for proper off road riding. Then you need a supersport for track days and blasts at the weekend and a nice little naked bike for commuting in town. Then if you just want to cruise around you definitely need a cruiser. But then your twin cylinder naked bike doesn't have the same experience as a triple so you also need a triple and on and on and on... To conclude... the answer is always to just buy another bike :D
I just had the 2024 Tracer 9 GT+ delivered today. I live in the 3 Twisted Sisters area and I'm a 59 year old who isn't quite ready to grow up (or old) yet. I think it's going to be perfect.
finally have one at my local dealership in San Angelo, gonna try and get a test ride soon. Also, my wife is from your area (Utopia), I love riding my bike around the 3-Sisters!
i picked up my new 2024 Tracer 9 GT, and i’ve loved every second of it, pops the front wheel up nicely, corners well and can cruise the country without worry, this bike is everything i ever wanted ❤
It's maybe the best video I've ever seen you make. You were spot-on with everything you said. I've been riding for 33 years and have experienced the things you discussed many times. Very eloquently done, Yammie.
2017 FJ-09 with Akrapovic full exhaust and custom dyno Flash and it’s near perfect. Fast in the twisties and comfortable for cross country touring with bags.
Getting the exhaust change and ECU reflashed transforms the bike,pulls like crazy and genuine surprise at the difference it makes,turns it into the bike it always should have been.
I have a 2019 Tracer 900. I bought it used and bolted on everything that makes it a GT. I've been through a half dozen bikes in the 9 years since I started riding again as an older adult, but I think this may be where I stay permanently. My daily is actually now a 1980 Honda CX500, which is an old and slow bike but I love the thing. The Tracer is what I use for a long distance machine.
@@warrengarfield309 There's a guy a couple hundred miles away from me selling a 1990 Guzzi. I'd already have bought it, except I don't really need more than 2 bikes in my garage.
GO CX500! My 79 got retired (sold to a friend) with over 50,000 miles on it back in the 80's. After owning over 30 motorcycles I still look back on that CX500 with a smile, it will always be one of my favorite bikes. P.S. Does yours still have the original cam shaft? I have a story about that if you'd like to hear it.
@@petezny4343 Yeah the 1980 at least had the fixes for the cam chain. As far as I know the engine is original parts. I haven't had it apart. The water pump seal has been replaced and the carburetors cleaned, that's all I know for sure about the engine, other than "all fluids replaced" because I did that.
A lot of us have been there. You start looking and some bike catches your eye, the specs look good and you build up hype in your head. Then you swing a leg over and it doesn't click. It's definitely a purpose built machine. Still debating on holding out for the R9. Getting a sport version of the MT-09 is going to be a dream come true.
Hey boss, you can turn any modern naked bike into a comfy sport tourer. I picked up a '23 1290 super duke and seriously changed up the ergos on it. Now it's an over-powered beast w/ touring bags, a straight upright riding position, and a windscreen. I rode it all the way from Utah to Tennessee and absolutely love the thing. You might consider doing something similar with a platform that has your other wants?
Great review. You are spot on. Sometimes bikes are "too perfect". I had a 2014 Suzuki V-Strom 1000 that did everything good, but nothing great. It was dead reliable. Plenty of power. And it almost made me quit riding. I just didn't have any excitement for the bike. It was like riding a kitchen appliance. It was a perfectly good bike and it never had an issue in the 8 years I owned it. But I only put 24,000 miles on it in that 8 years. I finally realized, after owned several bikes, that the ones I liked best were the ones that had character. They had quirks. They needed me to maintain them and keep them in tip top shape. Bikes like my Ducati Monster 900, Buell Ulysses, BMW RT & GS (oilheads). All of those bikes were big air cooled twins. They all had little things that made them less than perfect. I ended up trading my V-Strom on a 10 year old BMW R1200 R. I love the bike. It isn't great at anything. But it feels so good to ride and I fall in love with it again every time I ride it.
Just rode mine from AZ to Austin for MotoGP! 1000 miles over two days. Love this bike! Mine has a Corbin saddle and a short windscreen. PS, if you run at 90 mph plus with an exhaust and a tune, you only get 150 miles from a tank! 😂 Gotta get your dad ventures done in a hurry!
Please do more bias reviews, to me this is the best and most honest review you have ever done, I don't even watch reviews of any kind anymore because all they are is a commercial ad for the product. Everyone at this moment is in the same spot you find yourself with the Desert Sled, loving a bike but wishing for something else, never happy, wanting a bit more touring from your commuter bike without it feeling like a goldwing. I once had a Sportster that I loved and rode every chance I got, changed it for an Electra Glide they I hated and sold. Then I got me an SV650 that I loved, commuted to work everyday, but same situation as the Sporter, small fuel tank, lack of wing protection, lack of storage, and decided once again to trade the SV650 for something more touring, so I got a Versys LT touring bike which I have owned since 2022 and hardly ride it, to me that parallel twin has no soul, that bike doesn't inspire me, I concluded that I hate big bulky bikes. Based on what you described, for the amount of long trips that you do, it won't be worth it to give up all the fun and joy the Sled gives you, instead of pushing the sled into long distance trips that brings you disappointment, just tailor your trips to a manageable distance so you can continue to enjoy the bike that you love. The answer is not always an upgrade, but to value what you got, love the one you with. Also, the older you get the closer you stay home and the more you will enjoy shorter trips on smaller bikes. You are not getting any younger, family grows, commitment grows, you are lucky to get a chance to go for a morning ride which the Sled is perfect for. If you ever find the opportunity to go on a super long adventure, you can always rent a bike. Renew your commitment to the Sled and stop the agony hunting for perfection.
I almost bought one of these until I rode one and realized how small the display is. Had to squint to read a lot of the info. Bought a Triumph Tiger 900 GT instead. Love it!
Watching this made me analyze my own bike. I grew up riding dirt bikes, and when my buddies started getting into street riding, I decided to convert my KTM 500 XCF-W to a street machine. What I’ve learned after $3500 in mods, custom gearboxes, etc. is that there’s always compromise. My bike can cruise at 90 great, but the bike is still 220 lbs. the gearbox works for on road and off road with a quick switch to different set of wheels with a larger rear sprocket. My bike is hands down the best woods bike ever, and living in Washington it’s perfect for an experienced off-road rider. And even after modding the gears for the street and getting more speed out of it, it’ll just never be that great on the street. It’s a dirt bike, it’ll 12 o’clock wheelie in 3rd gear with an accidental wrist twitch no matter what I do to it. Yes it’s tuned and has more torque than I know what to do with, which doesn’t help. But no matter what, it’s a lightweight dirt bike that’s barely heavier than me. While it is fun to scoot around on the road that’s not what it’s for. No matter how much money and how many mods I throw into it, it’s just not made to ride around with the likes of my buddies Duke 790, or Yamaha R3. I’ve ridden those bikes, and while my riding skill is good enough to “beat” them in a race down a curvy road on a dirt bike, it’s just so much more enjoyable to do so on a bike that was manufactured with that idea in mind. All that said, I wouldn’t get rid of my bike for the world. It’s the most hooligan, fun, ridiculous machine I’ve ever swung my leg over. While it may not be as enjoyable as keeping up with my friends in a straight line, or having the confidence in carving it up, It’s mine, it’s tailored to me, modded by me, and no one else will ever have a bike like it
It was between the XSR900 and the GT a few months ago. Went with the XSR partly for the lower price but also because I really don't need the cross country capabilities. I'll really only ever ride for maybe 5 hours at the most and on the day to day 30-60 mins at a time. I put some saddle bags on the XSR and its a great and fun bike that can do it all for me. Also coming straight off my first bike (an R3) you're spot on with the battleship moniker. The Tracer is a huge bike. Way bigger than I am comfortable with. Thing really feels like a car almost.
I also have a ‘23 XSR900. Added some SW-Motech side carrier mounts and have both their Legend Gear fabric style bags which are small enough for day rides and daily commuting, as well as their larger ABS bags which are quite a bit larger and lockable, but not huge. It’s a great bike and with these kind of saddlebag configurations which are quick detachable, you have the versatility of a powerful and nimble and light naked street bike and can easily be used for a mid range or even long range tourer.
@@raisingcane225 @raisingcane225 your videos are actually how I learned about sw motech and their awesome mounting system. I went with the waterproof sysbags instead of the legend gear. I also have a kreiga us10 and us20 for more if I need it.
@@onoes9646 3800 miles which was about 1 year of riding. I stayed on mode 4 (lowest power mode) for about 2 months until now I am pretty comfortable in mode 3 at 1100 miles. Even in mode 4 it's a major power jump. Biggest difference I still feel is the weight and physical size. The XSR vs the R3 is heavy and wide. Takes some getting used to.
I road-tested the current-generation Tracer 9 GT a few years ago and hated it. A year later, I bought a Gen-3 MT-09, loved it, and happily have it still. My reasons for not liking the Tracer were much the same as described in the video - same complaints/dislikes. Good video.
T7 is really for someone really tall and really skinny. When I sit on one at 250lbs and 5'10", I sink so far into the sag that it grounds out on the stand, I would have to re-spring it if I owned one, I don't have that problem with my Versys 650, it's actually on the stiff side and I don't even have the preload maxed.
@@OneFreeMan17 Tracer is a great all around bike, but I think T-7 is even more of an all around bike. I really like that bike, but it is a bit too tall for me. The Transalp is a distant option.
I own a Tiger Sport 660, a Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally pro and a Tracer 9 GT. Between all 3, the one that gets my adrenaline absolutely going each and every time is the Tracer 9 GT 2023. I would choose it for exactly that - adrenaline - as the primary reason, and everything else comes far behind. Yes, it can behave like a on-road tourer but thats not its true-blue personality. It has the heart & soul of a ruffian who loves to be pushed hard to do justice to the raw power the CPS3 belts out.
I traded my older FJ09 for the Tiger 660. The earlier versions of the Tracer had horrible fueling and it was hard to ride smoothly. The Tiger is much better….
@@seanreilly6751 Interesting. The 2023 version is a real screamer, and quite smooth too. But you are right that the basic character is more of a thrilling hooligan than a sweet runner.
For someone who had claimed to have no interest in riding off road, Yam seems pretty interested in off road worthy bikes. But no judgment here. We all evolve. Ride what you Love!
I am the only one to think Yammie should try out the KTM 890 SMT ? I mean, for a fun bike capable of putting down miles, it could be worth considering. Like another flavor of sport touring altogether.
Yam, you need to ride a 2015-2018 FJ09 or a 2019-2021 Tracer 900GT. You'll find these older "Tracer" models a lot more raucous. The model you're testing has ironed out that liveliness. It's feedback that the Tracer community gave, so the new bike reflects that smooth predictive behavior. Go ride a Gen 1 or Gen 2 (listed above) and you'll see the difference. That's why I kept my Gen 2!
Was considering one of these, but with the new updates, they increased the price about 2k, so I went with a Tiger 900 gt leftover from 2023 for thousands less, and basically the same bike- 900 cc, cruise control, heated grips similar windscreen, etc.
"Sport bike on stilts, jackal and hide performance" is a excellent way to describe the Tracer 9GT. I have one and it's a really great bike for what I need. If I were to say who it's for, it's for the rider that has limited garage space or funds and wants one bike that can weekend warrior and take to work on the week days. Also the owner of that T9GT needs to get the breaks sorted because my factory ones are fine.
It’s a fantastic commuter. Lots of power for passing and very nimble for urban and suburban high traffic areas. I wouldn’t want to ride it across the country. I ride it back and forth to work. It’s an awesome bike. It is not that big. Yammilube has the frame of a teenager. I am 5-10 and 200 pounds. It’s not a big bike. Very small and nimble. Super flickable.
I had the same impression that the Tracer 9 actually feels small for what it is, feels comparable in size to my Versys 650 and I'm also 5'10" just a bit heavier. Though I have also found I prefer the Ninja 1000 over the ADV style sport tourers, just feels smaller and easier to ride around town than the tall bois even though it is heavier than the Tracer. it also has a much more rowdy personality once you get it onto a twisty road, it feels like a comfy sportbike more than a dad bike.
The evidence is on the video Yammie. It was the bike that truly made you happy and you connected with it in the way you described that you didnt connect with the tracer. Its basically an upgraded desert sled. Dont lie to yourself
@@yammienoob i will most likely get one. saving up one more month to pull the trigger on a red 2023 scram 1200 XC (the new X is a downgrade). Had a 900 rally pro, currently riding an old gs, but adv bikes lack the VISUAL and FUN
To me the fun in bikes is to continuously swap them over. Sometimes a sport tourer, then a sport bike, then a cruiser, dirt bike, adventure bike, naked bike and so on. The best to go on adventure on is the bike just purchased. You will be on a high the entire way, especially if it’s a bike that fits the purpose. I know not all have the means, but the change over after a year generally isn’t much if you look after your bike and good at negotiating. The experience of riding all these different bikes is apart of me. It’s my hobby.
Well my guy so now we obviously need a review video like this for the scrambler xe, the desertsled X and the touareg. Keep those kinds of personal reviews coming! Really enjoyed it.
I'm twice your age. After many years away from two wheels, I bought a MT09. It was town riding that put me off the thing! It was jerky as hell at low speed!
An XS2 650 with some fork springs, a small fork brace and a welded in brace to the rear of the main frame. I bored it to 750 and a Shell Thuet flat track cam, and a MAC 2-1 2 inch pipe and the Red/White paint was love at first sight. I loved that bike. I had to sell it.
So many have noted the turbulence from the small windshield as well as the consistent high frequency vibes that numbs hands and bum as the long day progresses.
Personally I love these videos from YN. It doesnt feel like youre trying to sell something nor does it feel your pushing your experience as objective fact. Its more so just 'this is what Im looking for and this is how it handled it'. Very down to Earth
I agree. I rented a 2021 Tracer 9 for a day a rode around the Big Island of Hawaii and had the same thoughts. It's a great touring bike, just not for me. I prefer my hooligan 890 KTM Duke for the road, and my growly Ducati Panigale V2 for the track. The bike needs to connect with your personality and riding style.
I rented a Tenere 700 for a day in Hawaii, it was perfect for getting around the island and we even went up to the top of Mauna Kea. My brother rented an 850GS, I liked the T7 a lot more than the BMW.
@@andewgoodale7499The Tenere 700 is what I have right now, but then a Tracer 9 showed up at the shop I work at, and I was like Whoah. I’m considering trading in for that next year.
I almost ALWAYS get a new seat with a new bike, because they seldom for me right. Oddly enough, my touring bike is the original Hypermotard, with a new seat, and 6.5 gallon tank. I just love it. It’s the best handling bike I’ve ever had, and has enough tor use for cornering fast, plus it’s a great wheelie bike. I’ve done many Pashnittours with it.
Yamm on a triple and likes it. Geee who would have guessed. Your wrist is uniquely tuned to that 3 cylinder throttle response. It's the beginning of 'Jarhead' when Jake says a man goes to war..... Your hand still remembers the gun
I just did a demo ride a 2024 Tracer 9 Gt. Nice bike. Motorcycle has good power, quick shifter fun. Weight is great. I own a Yamaha FJR and love it. But I am 65 years old and the FJR is a heavy bike. So maybe, in the future it may be a good replacement!
I have this one in Italy, I love it! Mine is a GT+. I got to have fun alone and long travels with the wife. Maybe maybe some trackdays to get my feet wet. Planning on riding it on Nurburgring as well. It’s kind sad to see you stuck in traffic. No lane splitting sucks.
I've had my 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 for 2 years now, and I've kind of been torn about getting a new bike. If I sell it, finding something that offers the same amenities without the quirks for close to the same price range is just not feasible. It has little quirks that I don't like about it, but altogether the engine is incredible and is what keeps me riding it. So until I have 5-6k on top of what I'd get in selling it to get something that offers EVERYTHING I want, I just keep riding it. Recently I've been doing more 2 up miles, and it honestly really suffers in that category even with aftermarket suspension. Honestly if you have the money, seems like 2 bikes is really the answer. I look forward to that day for me, whenever it is.
2022 Tracer 9 GT. Purchased it and road it locally to the first service. Then rode it 11000km from Calgary to Peggy's Cove, NS and back (bone stock). I had no issues except that Flin Flon is cold and a bit scary. Loved it on the twisty bits and hugged it after the pouring rain in Montreal (both ways). It looks way better in red ;)
I totally get it. I own a Ducati Monster 797 and that engine just has something magical to it. It's a no frills experience, just pure analog goodness. Your desert sled is kinda the same thing.
ı was using 2021 tr9gt for a while. As a 25 years old people which live in İstanbul this bike was amazing for me. İstanbul is a city with serius traffic problem and this bike help me as a commuter a lot of time and its felt great. You have high position and its lead to see the over the trafic. when you need to dissepear its give you that power. And the crusin part was amazing. when you go to twisted roads its very easy to control. I know its kinda heavy but its didnt felt heavy. I tried mt-09(fz-09 for you I guess) its was very hard to commute and feel goofy. For my taste Tracer 9 gt is one of the best motorcycle which yamaha ever create.
I hear you. I have an older tracer, it’s brilliant (now it’s got a better shock and tall screen). Does everything well, Tourer with panniers and screen or sports bike without both. CP3 engine is best I’ve used. So…how is it I can’t wait to ride my 765 every time the sun comes out and makes me question why I don’t ride the tracer. Warm with dry roads, 765 every time.
My buddies and I did a moto trip last january, rented bikes in vegas and rode to Cambria and back (wanted to do highway 1 but it was closed) I rode a tenere 700 and my other buddy rode a 1200 tenere. He loved it and it definitely seemed like a good touring machine. straight comfort and lots of goodies. Would be a better more well rounded bike than this one I think.
This honestly reminds me of my situation with my gsxs1000gt that i’ve only had since October of 23. I came from a fz07, and while I love the tech, features, and wind protection of the gsxs, I hate the way I have to rev it out to get the acceleration going and the fact that riding a fast bike slow is no fun.
They'd need to get the size down, the Versys 1000 is a barge. I've ridden the Tracer 9, Versys 1000 and Ninja 1000 and I liked the Ninja the most. The Tracer was trying too hard to be perfect, I share Yammie's sentiments on it. The Versys was incredibly comfy, and ride fine at speed but was an unwieldy barge at low speeds, the Ninja was more like a comfy sportbike, much more fun to ride than the other two, less tippy-toeing and not having to do the ADV mount to get on it, while heavier than the Tracer it feels like a smaller bike. The Ninja also has way more personality than the Tracer or Versys
I've never felt so understood 😭😭 I rode the FJ09, and then the Tracer 900 (basically the same bikes) and thought they were the absolutely perfect machine. They ticked every single box i ever had for a dream bike. Fast, fun, comfortable, controllable, affordable, etc. Nothing was getting in the way of that being my dream bike. Uuuuntil i rode the Z900RS. It was slightly *less* comfortable. It was slightly *less* practical. It was slightly *less* perfect. But it made me realize the Tracer was *too* perfect. It didn't have *soul.* The Z900RS had stiffer suspension, which made the ride more fun and interesting. It had a better exhaust, so it sounded nicer to ride. It also looks *sooo much better.* It just had *something* that made me want it more, despite being objectively worse in several aspects. It made the Tracer feel too corporate. Like it was what a soulless calculating computer would design as the "perfect machine," which is objectively could be. It's the perfect compromise in almost every way, but that's just it. It's all compromises, which made it just seem boring in comparison to something that made less compromises
Thank you Yammie. It's just the bike that would suit me. Size and power. I'm 6.5' and I make most bikes look small under me. This looks like the one for me. But I will have to test ride to find out. 💪
You'd like the Versys 1000 more probably, it's a fair bit bigger and taller than the Tracer. To me the Tracer feels only slightly bigger than a Versys 650.
Good review, puts in perspective your thoughts on sports touring bikes. It's all down to what our own individual preferences and priorities are. Almost every bike can do every discipline to some degree, and almost every bike is a compromise to some degree. Its then down to us to decide what our priorities and preferences are and how much we want to compromise.
I had a Tracer 900 GT and I completely agree on the "Super Scooter" feeling when commuting with it. Switched to a SV650 and I'm having much more fun with it.
I purchased a 2020 MT09 brand new years ago. I still have it. My tastes have changed a bit since then since I've hit 40. I'm looking to get a Tracer GT+ after reading its specs. And since I own a mt09 already it basically a mt09 at heart with better electronics. So the transition will be simple.
Dude I want this bike!!!! Ride the bikes you want. It’s tough to ride the metrics. Unless there’s a demo day, everyone else wants you to sign on the dotted line before you demo.
I own a 2022 Aprilia Tuono V4 RR model that has an exhaust, airbox and tune. That is really a fun bike unbelievably fun but for me it’s about an hour and a half bike before it gets uncomfortable. Hence I bought that exact bike you just rode, a 2022 tracer 9 GT about eight months ago and I am shocked how nimble it is. On my 8 mile deserted highway course with 191 corners in it I am almost as fast on the tracer other than where it’s just a matter of horsepower. I love them both, but the tracer is so comfortable yet so nimble I really dig it. I’m actually in the process of putting on Akrapovic exhaust and a tune right now because I’m going to keep it. The bike you rode must have had some issue with the brakes because my T9’s are very good. Comparable to the Tuono’s. BTW, the T9 will cruise all day at 110.
A few years ago I really wanted a Tracer. I used to own a TDM 850, I presently have a Kawasaki triple for (over 30 years,) and a DT125R, AND a Suzuki GSX-R 750. The Tracer seemed to combine the best attributes of all 3 bikes. But the chassis felt to "tippy-toey" the grips put my wrists at an uncomfortable angle, and the throttle seemed to be on an elastic band ("fly-by-wire" crap). It doesn't have as much grunt as you would would expect from a biggish triple. The controls were fiddly too, there are different modes, but not easy to access on the fly. I loved the style, and the concept, but modern emission controls and the weight, and the riding position didn’t quite gel for me. My GSX-R is snappier and more comfortable. My Kawasaki triple has the character and sound like no other. My DT is light, nippy and is capable off-road. And has that genuine 2-stroke response. So my recommendation is don't try to get one bike to do everything (mediocre) get 3 bikes that each do something brilliant, and decide what you want to do today.
Simple solution - previous generation (2019-20 Tracer 900 GT). Looks better (including TFT dash). Comes with fully adjustable front and rear suspension. Couple of thousands or more cheaper than 9GT. My 900 GT with Yamaha touring windscreen, Yamaha comfort seat and Givi top case works for me very well. Just finished 3 day 1750 km (1100 Miles) road trip without any complaints or issues.
No cruise on the old model. Also, no imu which is huge if you’ve never had it and then experience it. Your 900 dates back to 2014- the throttle on those old bikes was horrible. Nothing really fixed them either. The new MT’s and Tracers are butter smooth. So yeah, they’re worth it. Quickshifter as well on the new ones.
@@tg8150 as I mentioned 2019-20 Tracer 900GT so it comes with CC. Used to have FJ09 and have not had problems with the throttle. Perfectly smooth on GT. Quick shifter isn’t big deal to me.
I personally really like the Tracer 9. My buddy has one and I've ridden it allot and it always puts a smile on my face. You keep saying 366 miles as though it's a significant distance, that is not far at all.
For me personally, right now, the MT-09 would be kind of perfect for my style of riding. Comfy, kinda sporty, nice enjoyable engine, light for the cc it has, great power output... However I know for a fact my dad would hate to own one. Still, I'm positive my dad would LOVE a Tracer 9. And I would hate to own a Tracer so much, I know it, even if they share elements with the MT. But that's exactly the point, yes, the feeling someone has for a specific bike is super personal and it goes beyond numbers and stats. They might both be superb bikes and all that stuff, but maybe they're not meant for you. And that's okay. Pappa Yams always entertaining us and teaching us lessons at the same that, what a chad
It all comes down to what you want. IMO it's probably the best mix of features & price that I'm ever going to find, apart from updates. Personally this is such an easy bike to ride around town, being "sensible"....but it's also capable of being a speed machine that can drag your knee in the corners. Quite a combination!
It appears Yammie removed the windscreen during riding which I find odd. The windscreen is a huge benefit of touring motorcycle in terms of comfort, noise, and fatigue when riding for extended periods or windier days. If you live in northern part of US this greatly extends your riding season. Those riding naked or sport bikes where i live mostly disappear for 1.5 months on either side of spring and fall seasons. If you live in upper midwest a partially rainy day even in mid-summer can push temps down from comfort into discomfort or risk of hypothermia real fast. In terms of the desire to engage in more aggressive riding on street I am surprised about the comment about nerve damage in the right arm and the youth of 31years. I am considerably older and the most important things to me are retaining my human faculties well into my later years and surviving to ride another day. The most important things you learn from life experiences are you are neither invinciple and the risk vs. adrenalin reward should never be taken lightly.
A little bit long stretched video but i can relate to it. I hate the fact that packing camping gear on my SV650x is such a drag. But, i like the looks and feeling i get on the bike.
Had one of these. It was stolen. Bought a 2023 MT10SP with the insurance money.... And honestly? I think the Tracer is a better bike. Key is to strip off all the extra crap when you're not touring. Pull the bags, hand guards, pop on a sport screen. Of course, as im a big dude (6'4" 300lb) its a much more comfortable version of the mt09sp for me. That said, on all the days im not touring, the mt10sp is fucking nuts.
You have to give your sled a chance by finding a top notch aftermarket seat for it. ADV bikes take on an entirely different vibe if you have a great seat for em. You can’t say you tried until you fix the seat situation
The Tracer 9GT is a bunch lighter than my FJR 1300, which, despite its weight and bulk I just love to ride. But I also own an R3 too. 😉 I think The more you rode the Ttracer 9GT the more you would love it.
Modern (or even newly developed) sport touring bikes with modern tech and modern sport touring tyres, are AT LEAST as sporty, as the GSXR I rode 20 years ago. Took my squid ass some time to get over it. Bikes and bike parts (esp tyres!) have made huge progress in the last 30ish years. Right now I'm riding a '05 hornet 599 that I rebuild last winter as a side project. Even with all essentiel parts updated (braided brake lines, sintered brake pads, tyres, whols suspension, and many many more items), it feels like riding an old bike, which it is, even tho it has under 20k km and the motors sounds and feels like new. I just tested a Rebell 1100 and JFC, how the hell does this chopper / bobber crossover feels so nimbel and sporty? I have the strong feeling, that full sport bikes are a thing of the past, when it comes to mixed street riding. And TBH, I think that this is a good direction, because it is a shame, if you never had the luck to ride a longer tour on your bike.
Went from a 2018 Ducati Multi 1260 to KTM 690SMCR for basically all the same reasons. The Multi was awesome but too much bike for just crusing around town which is all I pretty much do on the streets. I never really used the Multi for what it was intended to do.
Hi Yammie, I am also a Ducati Scrambler Rider (model flat track pro 2016) and I have tested the desert X. The engine is very good but I did not like the handling on the road. The Scrambler is much better on the road. They should put the x engine in the Scrambler 😂
Thank you for your candor! The observation that it is less than the sum of its parts makes perfect sense. You are not the only person looking for the best all rounder; everyone it seems is looking for the same thing. I have seen numerous YT videos that confirm what you said once the owner bought what they thought would meet all their needs, a daily driver with an occasional tour they discovered like the person who is good at many things but a master of none, boring. So you see headlines like was buying the Kawasaki Z900RS a mistake? I can see how you were on paper seduced by this bike ; not an FJR1300, not a Speed Triple maybe a sweet middle spot. I too have not found it and to your point you have to identify with the bike; it has to reflect you is very true too. (Those comments in previous videos about hipsters on Triumphs wanting to look like Peaky Blinders were too funny and at the same time spot on. The Kawasaki Z900RS not sharp enough, the Yamaha XSR sharp but not an all rounder; the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX at first without any luggage could have been an all rounder; loads of tech and priced right but not sharp despite the larger engine with more hp and torque. Could the newest Katana with bi directional quick shifter and other upgrades be the all rounder?
You need to ride one with an exhaust. I’ve ridden both stock and one with an exhaust. That QS is intoxicatingggg❤️🔥 The ride quality is night and day. The desert sled is fun and lighter but I’m sure the 890 Adventure or the SMC-R from KTM should do the job for you Papa Yams.
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Probably the strangest "review" I've seen. It's liken to watching a recently separated middle-aged guy go on his first tinder date. He is still thinking about his ex while trying to justify looking for a new one. 🤔
That pretty much sums it up 😂
Perfect description hahahahaha
Welcome to trying to find a new motorcycle lol
@@yammienoob your real thought was "I don't sit well with that middle-aged guy part" LOL
@@leopardpro2878Given my predilection for forced induction motorcycles, a 62 year life span seems very generous.
100% get it. I swapped from a 2005 ZX-6R to a 2016 FJ-09, and kept modding it to chase something a little sportier. First a shorter windscreen, then removing the handguards, upgrading the suspension and exhaust, and I had a proper ripper on my hands. Sometimes the perfect bike for you doesn't exist and you have to take something imperfect and get as close as possible.
...but then I traded it in on a Ducati Streetfighter V2 and I couldn't be happier.
I agree. Had 2015 model, same upgrades you had...what a blast! For twisties, sportwise and even touring...I miss THIS tracer, not the tamed present version
This is why the formula for the number of bikes you should have is n + 1.
Get a sport tourer for sport touring, big adventure for mostly road touring and a mid adventure for more balanced off road to road touring. Then a supermoto for proper off road riding. Then you need a supersport for track days and blasts at the weekend and a nice little naked bike for commuting in town. Then if you just want to cruise around you definitely need a cruiser. But then your twin cylinder naked bike doesn't have the same experience as a triple so you also need a triple and on and on and on...
To conclude... the answer is always to just buy another bike :D
The 2021+ are much better than the.gen 1 FJs
I just had the 2024 Tracer 9 GT+ delivered today. I live in the 3 Twisted Sisters area and I'm a 59 year old who isn't quite ready to grow up (or old) yet. I think it's going to be perfect.
Got mine yesterday, killer!
Super awesome! Good for you mate!! 👍👍👍
Have you played with cruise control yet? How reactive is it?
Congratulations
finally have one at my local dealership in San Angelo, gonna try and get a test ride soon. Also, my wife is from your area (Utopia), I love riding my bike around the 3-Sisters!
i picked up my new 2024 Tracer 9 GT, and i’ve loved every second of it, pops the front wheel up nicely, corners well and can cruise the country without worry, this bike is everything i ever wanted ❤
Just stop beating around the bush and get a Gold Wing already.
No, an Abilize Stride Sport is what my man needs.
@@thebrowns5337wrong he needs a Versys 650
Versys 1000
Ew lol
Found the boomer hahaha
It's maybe the best video I've ever seen you make. You were spot-on with everything you said. I've been riding for 33 years and have experienced the things you discussed many times. Very eloquently done, Yammie.
2017 FJ-09 with Akrapovic full exhaust and custom dyno Flash and it’s near perfect. Fast in the twisties and comfortable for cross country touring with bags.
Getting the exhaust change and ECU reflashed transforms the bike,pulls like crazy and genuine surprise at the difference it makes,turns it into the bike it always should have been.
Got mine T9 GT+ since June 2023 (i live in Switzerland) and i'm loving every minute riding it. For me its the best bang for the buck.
I have a 2019 Tracer 900. I bought it used and bolted on everything that makes it a GT. I've been through a half dozen bikes in the 9 years since I started riding again as an older adult, but I think this may be where I stay permanently. My daily is actually now a 1980 Honda CX500, which is an old and slow bike but I love the thing. The Tracer is what I use for a long distance machine.
If you like you're CX you would love a Guzzi, trust me.
@@warrengarfield309 There's a guy a couple hundred miles away from me selling a 1990 Guzzi. I'd already have bought it, except I don't really need more than 2 bikes in my garage.
GO CX500! My 79 got retired (sold to a friend) with over 50,000 miles on it back in the 80's. After owning over 30 motorcycles I still look back on that CX500 with a smile, it will always be one of my favorite bikes. P.S. Does yours still have the original cam shaft? I have a story about that if you'd like to hear it.
@@petezny4343 Yeah the 1980 at least had the fixes for the cam chain. As far as I know the engine is original parts. I haven't had it apart. The water pump seal has been replaced and the carburetors cleaned, that's all I know for sure about the engine, other than "all fluids replaced" because I did that.
A lot of us have been there. You start looking and some bike catches your eye, the specs look good and you build up hype in your head. Then you swing a leg over and it doesn't click. It's definitely a purpose built machine. Still debating on holding out for the R9. Getting a sport version of the MT-09 is going to be a dream come true.
Same here...i just hope for a R9 with some more puff 130 or 135hp 🫶
For sure! Several interesting bikes to consider! I would like to see something in the 130-140 hp for the r9.
Two of my friends went from driving Husky 701 SM’s to buying a Tracer 9 gt each.
And they love them.
🤙🏾
"You can't really ride a spec sheet". Golden words !
Thank you for an honest and personal review. For my own part, my Tracer 9 GT+ is exactly what I want.
I am very interested in seeing which middleweight street bike you finally choose as a new ride.
I like this video. This is how we all choose rides.
I love my v strom 800de just did 1150 miles on it in 3 days phx to northern co. Very fun and comfortable on/off road!
Its ok poppa Yam, you're "maturing"..... can't wait to see you enjoying a grand American touring model... I own an ST.. they're are amazing brother!
That's it Yammie, you're ready for a Harley! 😎
He burned his boots once and he's still sore about it
You didn’t listen
I didn't want to say it but you beat me to it.
Love my 2024 9 GT+, amazing bike
Hey boss, you can turn any modern naked bike into a comfy sport tourer. I picked up a '23 1290 super duke and seriously changed up the ergos on it. Now it's an over-powered beast w/ touring bags, a straight upright riding position, and a windscreen. I rode it all the way from Utah to Tennessee and absolutely love the thing. You might consider doing something similar with a platform that has your other wants?
The windscreen worked great! (Proceeds to Ride without windscreen) haha
I just thought it was really really clean 😂
I have a 2022 Tracer 9GT and it is absolutely brilliant. Wicked fun, comfy and just great in every way.
Same here and year. Couldn't agree more.
Great review. You are spot on. Sometimes bikes are "too perfect". I had a 2014 Suzuki V-Strom 1000 that did everything good, but nothing great. It was dead reliable. Plenty of power. And it almost made me quit riding. I just didn't have any excitement for the bike. It was like riding a kitchen appliance. It was a perfectly good bike and it never had an issue in the 8 years I owned it. But I only put 24,000 miles on it in that 8 years.
I finally realized, after owned several bikes, that the ones I liked best were the ones that had character. They had quirks. They needed me to maintain them and keep them in tip top shape. Bikes like my Ducati Monster 900, Buell Ulysses, BMW RT & GS (oilheads). All of those bikes were big air cooled twins. They all had little things that made them less than perfect.
I ended up trading my V-Strom on a 10 year old BMW R1200 R. I love the bike. It isn't great at anything. But it feels so good to ride and I fall in love with it again every time I ride it.
Just rode mine from AZ to Austin for MotoGP! 1000 miles over two days. Love this bike! Mine has a Corbin saddle and a short windscreen.
PS, if you run at 90 mph plus with an exhaust and a tune, you only get 150 miles from a tank! 😂 Gotta get your dad ventures done in a hurry!
Please do more bias reviews, to me this is the best and most honest review you have ever done, I don't even watch reviews of any kind anymore because all they are is a commercial ad for the product. Everyone at this moment is in the same spot you find yourself with the Desert Sled, loving a bike but wishing for something else, never happy, wanting a bit more touring from your commuter bike without it feeling like a goldwing. I once had a Sportster that I loved and rode every chance I got, changed it for an Electra Glide they I hated and sold. Then I got me an SV650 that I loved, commuted to work everyday, but same situation as the Sporter, small fuel tank, lack of wing protection, lack of storage, and decided once again to trade the SV650 for something more touring, so I got a Versys LT touring bike which I have owned since 2022 and hardly ride it, to me that parallel twin has no soul, that bike doesn't inspire me, I concluded that I hate big bulky bikes. Based on what you described, for the amount of long trips that you do, it won't be worth it to give up all the fun and joy the Sled gives you, instead of pushing the sled into long distance trips that brings you disappointment, just tailor your trips to a manageable distance so you can continue to enjoy the bike that you love. The answer is not always an upgrade, but to value what you got, love the one you with. Also, the older you get the closer you stay home and the more you will enjoy shorter trips on smaller bikes. You are not getting any younger, family grows, commitment grows, you are lucky to get a chance to go for a morning ride which the Sled is perfect for. If you ever find the opportunity to go on a super long adventure, you can always rent a bike. Renew your commitment to the Sled and stop the agony hunting for perfection.
I almost bought one of these until I rode one and realized how small the display is. Had to squint to read a lot of the info. Bought a Triumph Tiger 900 GT instead. Love it!
Watching this made me analyze my own bike. I grew up riding dirt bikes, and when my buddies started getting into street riding, I decided to convert my KTM 500 XCF-W to a street machine. What I’ve learned after $3500 in mods, custom gearboxes, etc. is that there’s always compromise. My bike can cruise at 90 great, but the bike is still 220 lbs. the gearbox works for on road and off road with a quick switch to different set of wheels with a larger rear sprocket. My bike is hands down the best woods bike ever, and living in Washington it’s perfect for an experienced off-road rider. And even after modding the gears for the street and getting more speed out of it, it’ll just never be that great on the street. It’s a dirt bike, it’ll 12 o’clock wheelie in 3rd gear with an accidental wrist twitch no matter what I do to it. Yes it’s tuned and has more torque than I know what to do with, which doesn’t help. But no matter what, it’s a lightweight dirt bike that’s barely heavier than me. While it is fun to scoot around on the road that’s not what it’s for. No matter how much money and how many mods I throw into it, it’s just not made to ride around with the likes of my buddies Duke 790, or Yamaha R3. I’ve ridden those bikes, and while my riding skill is good enough to “beat” them in a race down a curvy road on a dirt bike, it’s just so much more enjoyable to do so on a bike that was manufactured with that idea in mind. All that said, I wouldn’t get rid of my bike for the world. It’s the most hooligan, fun, ridiculous machine I’ve ever swung my leg over. While it may not be as enjoyable as keeping up with my friends in a straight line, or having the confidence in carving it up, It’s mine, it’s tailored to me, modded by me, and no one else will ever have a bike like it
i adore my tracer 9 gt+. Keeps my Tenere 700 WR entertained in the garage too.
It was between the XSR900 and the GT a few months ago. Went with the XSR partly for the lower price but also because I really don't need the cross country capabilities. I'll really only ever ride for maybe 5 hours at the most and on the day to day 30-60 mins at a time. I put some saddle bags on the XSR and its a great and fun bike that can do it all for me. Also coming straight off my first bike (an R3) you're spot on with the battleship moniker. The Tracer is a huge bike. Way bigger than I am comfortable with. Thing really feels like a car almost.
A T-7 and the Tracer 9 is the only two bikes you will ever need.
I also have a ‘23 XSR900. Added some SW-Motech side carrier mounts and have both their Legend Gear fabric style bags which are small enough for day rides and daily commuting, as well as their larger ABS bags which are quite a bit larger and lockable, but not huge. It’s a great bike and with these kind of saddlebag configurations which are quick detachable, you have the versatility of a powerful and nimble and light naked street bike and can easily be used for a mid range or even long range tourer.
@@raisingcane225 @raisingcane225 your videos are actually how I learned about sw motech and their awesome mounting system. I went with the waterproof sysbags instead of the legend gear. I also have a kreiga us10 and us20 for more if I need it.
How long were you on the R3 before you felt ready to jump to a 900?
@@onoes9646 3800 miles which was about 1 year of riding. I stayed on mode 4 (lowest power mode) for about 2 months until now I am pretty comfortable in mode 3 at 1100 miles. Even in mode 4 it's a major power jump. Biggest difference I still feel is the weight and physical size. The XSR vs the R3 is heavy and wide. Takes some getting used to.
I road-tested the current-generation Tracer 9 GT a few years ago and hated it. A year later, I bought a Gen-3 MT-09, loved it, and happily have it still. My reasons for not liking the Tracer were much the same as described in the video - same complaints/dislikes. Good video.
T-7 and the Tracer 9 are the only two bikes anyone ever needs to own. A DRZ in the garage will also be a good idea.
Add an Indian FTR, and a DR650 and you're me!😅
@@markchalloner5883 I’ll have one of each. I love them all.
T7 is really for someone really tall and really skinny. When I sit on one at 250lbs and 5'10", I sink so far into the sag that it grounds out on the stand, I would have to re-spring it if I owned one, I don't have that problem with my Versys 650, it's actually on the stiff side and I don't even have the preload maxed.
I have a T7 right now but I’m considering trading it in for a Tracer 9 next year
@@OneFreeMan17 Tracer is a great all around bike, but I think T-7 is even more of an all around bike. I really like that bike, but it is a bit too tall for me. The Transalp is a distant option.
I own a Tiger Sport 660, a Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally pro and a Tracer 9 GT.
Between all 3, the one that gets my adrenaline absolutely going each and every time is the Tracer 9 GT 2023.
I would choose it for exactly that - adrenaline - as the primary reason, and everything else comes far behind.
Yes, it can behave like a on-road tourer but thats not its true-blue personality. It has the heart & soul of a ruffian who loves to be pushed hard to do justice to the raw power the CPS3 belts out.
I traded my older FJ09 for the Tiger 660. The earlier versions of the Tracer had horrible fueling and it was hard to ride smoothly. The Tiger is much better….
@@seanreilly6751 Interesting. The 2023 version is a real screamer, and quite smooth too. But you are right that the basic character is more of a thrilling hooligan than a sweet runner.
For someone who had claimed to have no interest in riding off road, Yam seems pretty interested in off road worthy bikes.
But no judgment here. We all evolve. Ride what you Love!
That’s what I thought
ive just bought a 21 T9GT. fast enough, handles great, simple electronic suspension, loveit.......
also, amazingly slick quickshifter.
I am the only one to think Yammie should try out the KTM 890 SMT ? I mean, for a fun bike capable of putting down miles, it could be worth considering. Like another flavor of sport touring altogether.
Yam, you need to ride a 2015-2018 FJ09 or a 2019-2021 Tracer 900GT. You'll find these older "Tracer" models a lot more raucous. The model you're testing has ironed out that liveliness. It's feedback that the Tracer community gave, so the new bike reflects that smooth predictive behavior. Go ride a Gen 1 or Gen 2 (listed above) and you'll see the difference. That's why I kept my Gen 2!
Was considering one of these, but with the new updates, they increased the price about 2k, so I went with a Tiger 900 gt leftover from 2023 for thousands less, and basically the same bike- 900 cc, cruise control, heated grips similar windscreen, etc.
"Sport bike on stilts, jackal and hide performance" is a excellent way to describe the Tracer 9GT. I have one and it's a really great bike for what I need. If I were to say who it's for, it's for the rider that has limited garage space or funds and wants one bike that can weekend warrior and take to work on the week days.
Also the owner of that T9GT needs to get the breaks sorted because my factory ones are fine.
I have a 2017 Tracer with Hiper Pro suspension, and I love it.
Saw one, tested, loved it, decided there and then. Awesome bike. Couldn’t be happier with it 😊
I appreciate you still giving the motorcycle props, but also talking about why it just isn't for you. Not all motorcycles are for everyone.
It’s a fantastic commuter. Lots of power for passing and very nimble for urban and suburban high traffic areas. I wouldn’t want to ride it across the country. I ride it back and forth to work. It’s an awesome bike. It is not that big. Yammilube has the frame of a teenager. I am 5-10 and 200 pounds. It’s not a big bike. Very small and nimble. Super flickable.
I had the same impression that the Tracer 9 actually feels small for what it is, feels comparable in size to my Versys 650 and I'm also 5'10" just a bit heavier. Though I have also found I prefer the Ninja 1000 over the ADV style sport tourers, just feels smaller and easier to ride around town than the tall bois even though it is heavier than the Tracer. it also has a much more rowdy personality once you get it onto a twisty road, it feels like a comfy sportbike more than a dad bike.
Nobody will be surprised when you have a Triumph 1200 Scrambler. 😉
The evidence is on the video Yammie. It was the bike that truly made you happy and you connected with it in the way you described that you didnt connect with the tracer. Its basically an upgraded desert sled. Dont lie to yourself
It's fair! I am thinking long and hard about that one... Tubeless wheels, more torque, more ADV... Decisions, decisions.
@@yammienoob i will most likely get one. saving up one more month to pull the trigger on a red 2023 scram 1200 XC (the new X is a downgrade). Had a 900 rally pro, currently riding an old gs, but adv bikes lack the VISUAL and FUN
Im enjoying your struggles yam, keep them coming
Can’t stop seeing the scuba diver on your handle bars.
To me the fun in bikes is to continuously swap them over. Sometimes a sport tourer, then a sport bike, then a cruiser, dirt bike, adventure bike, naked bike and so on. The best to go on adventure on is the bike just purchased. You will be on a high the entire way, especially if it’s a bike that fits the purpose. I know not all have the means, but the change over after a year generally isn’t much if you look after your bike and good at negotiating. The experience of riding all these different bikes is apart of me. It’s my hobby.
Well my guy so now we obviously need a review video like this for the scrambler xe, the desertsled X and the touareg. Keep those kinds of personal reviews coming! Really enjoyed it.
I have a 2022 non GT Tracer 9. Love the power, and I use it every day during the season.
I'm twice your age.
After many years away from two wheels, I bought a MT09. It was town riding that put me off the thing! It was jerky as hell at low speed!
go small for city riding
The ECU recalls (two of them) smooth things out and, if that’s not enough, then a custom ECU flash makes the MT-09 MUCH more enjoyable to ride.
An XS2 650 with some fork springs, a small fork brace and a welded in brace to the rear of the main frame. I bored it to 750 and a Shell Thuet flat track cam, and a MAC 2-1 2 inch pipe and the Red/White paint was love at first sight. I loved that bike. I had to sell it.
So many have noted the turbulence from the small windshield as well as the consistent high frequency vibes that numbs hands and bum as the long day progresses.
I just completed an Iron Butt SaddleSore 1000 (1000 miles in
The seat is definitely the weakest part of the package.
Personally I love these videos from YN. It doesnt feel like youre trying to sell something nor does it feel your pushing your experience as objective fact. Its more so just 'this is what Im looking for and this is how it handled it'. Very down to Earth
Except to remind you to use a company that he personally invested in........
@@walshja81Well its still a brand after all, mans gotta eat. But compared to his reviews/ giveaway, it feels significantly less on the nose about it
I agree. I rented a 2021 Tracer 9 for a day a rode around the Big Island of Hawaii and had the same thoughts. It's a great touring bike, just not for me. I prefer my hooligan 890 KTM Duke for the road, and my growly Ducati Panigale V2 for the track. The bike needs to connect with your personality and riding style.
I rented a Tenere 700 for a day in Hawaii, it was perfect for getting around the island and we even went up to the top of Mauna Kea. My brother rented an 850GS, I liked the T7 a lot more than the BMW.
@@andewgoodale7499The Tenere 700 is what I have right now, but then a Tracer 9 showed up at the shop I work at, and I was like Whoah.
I’m considering trading in for that next year.
I almost ALWAYS get a new seat with a new bike, because they seldom for me right. Oddly enough, my touring bike is the original Hypermotard, with a new seat, and 6.5 gallon tank. I just love it. It’s the best handling bike I’ve ever had, and has enough tor use for cornering fast, plus it’s a great wheelie bike. I’ve done many Pashnittours with it.
Yamm on a triple and likes it. Geee who would have guessed. Your wrist is uniquely tuned to that 3 cylinder throttle response. It's the beginning of 'Jarhead' when Jake says a man goes to war..... Your hand still remembers the gun
I just did a demo ride a 2024 Tracer 9 Gt. Nice bike. Motorcycle has good power, quick shifter fun. Weight is great. I own a Yamaha FJR and love it. But I am 65 years old and the FJR is a heavy bike. So maybe, in the future it may be a good replacement!
I'm 67 and would love to add an FJR to my T9 GT.
I have this one in Italy, I love it! Mine is a GT+. I got to have fun alone and long travels with the wife. Maybe maybe some trackdays to get my feet wet. Planning on riding it on Nurburgring as well.
It’s kind sad to see you stuck in traffic. No lane splitting sucks.
I've had my 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 for 2 years now, and I've kind of been torn about getting a new bike. If I sell it, finding something that offers the same amenities without the quirks for close to the same price range is just not feasible. It has little quirks that I don't like about it, but altogether the engine is incredible and is what keeps me riding it. So until I have 5-6k on top of what I'd get in selling it to get something that offers EVERYTHING I want, I just keep riding it. Recently I've been doing more 2 up miles, and it honestly really suffers in that category even with aftermarket suspension.
Honestly if you have the money, seems like 2 bikes is really the answer. I look forward to that day for me, whenever it is.
2022 Tracer 9 GT. Purchased it and road it locally to the first service. Then rode it 11000km from Calgary to Peggy's Cove, NS and back (bone stock). I had no issues except that Flin Flon is cold and a bit scary. Loved it on the twisty bits and hugged it after the pouring rain in Montreal (both ways). It looks way better in red ;)
I totally get it. I own a Ducati Monster 797 and that engine just has something magical to it. It's a no frills experience, just pure analog goodness. Your desert sled is kinda the same thing.
I believe that has the same 803cc 2 valve air cooled engine. It's just so damn good. Cable throttle too
@yammienoob same engine indeed. Perfect amount of power. Enough to get you in trouble, great amount of torque, sounds great...
ı was using 2021 tr9gt for a while. As a 25 years old people which live in İstanbul this bike was amazing for me. İstanbul is a city with serius traffic problem and this bike help me as a commuter a lot of time and its felt great. You have high position and its lead to see the over the trafic. when you need to dissepear its give you that power. And the crusin part was amazing. when you go to twisted roads its very easy to control. I know its kinda heavy but its didnt felt heavy. I tried mt-09(fz-09 for you I guess) its was very hard to commute and feel goofy. For my taste Tracer 9 gt is one of the best motorcycle which yamaha ever create.
I hear you. I have an older tracer, it’s brilliant (now it’s got a better shock and tall screen). Does everything well, Tourer with panniers and screen or sports bike without both. CP3 engine is best I’ve used. So…how is it I can’t wait to ride my 765 every time the sun comes out and makes me question why I don’t ride the tracer. Warm with dry roads, 765 every time.
Hard to beat that CP3!
Loved this vid. Owned a 2022 Tracer GT for 10 months and it did everything I wanted to do, and did it well. Traded it in. 😂
My buddies and I did a moto trip last january, rented bikes in vegas and rode to Cambria and back (wanted to do highway 1 but it was closed) I rode a tenere 700 and my other buddy rode a 1200 tenere. He loved it and it definitely seemed like a good touring machine. straight comfort and lots of goodies. Would be a better more well rounded bike than this one I think.
This honestly reminds me of my situation with my gsxs1000gt that i’ve only had since October of 23. I came from a fz07, and while I love the tech, features, and wind protection of the gsxs, I hate the way I have to rev it out to get the acceleration going and the fact that riding a fast bike slow is no fun.
I really like this style of review. I think you should approach all your reviews like this imo. Keep up the great content
Wait for the Kawasaki Versys H2. 😉
You know they already make that... its called H2 SXSE...
They'd need to get the size down, the Versys 1000 is a barge. I've ridden the Tracer 9, Versys 1000 and Ninja 1000 and I liked the Ninja the most. The Tracer was trying too hard to be perfect, I share Yammie's sentiments on it. The Versys was incredibly comfy, and ride fine at speed but was an unwieldy barge at low speeds, the Ninja was more like a comfy sportbike, much more fun to ride than the other two, less tippy-toeing and not having to do the ADV mount to get on it, while heavier than the Tracer it feels like a smaller bike. The Ninja also has way more personality than the Tracer or Versys
Papa Yam looking good with the glasses
I've never felt so understood 😭😭
I rode the FJ09, and then the Tracer 900 (basically the same bikes) and thought they were the absolutely perfect machine. They ticked every single box i ever had for a dream bike. Fast, fun, comfortable, controllable, affordable, etc. Nothing was getting in the way of that being my dream bike.
Uuuuntil i rode the Z900RS.
It was slightly *less* comfortable. It was slightly *less* practical. It was slightly *less* perfect. But it made me realize the Tracer was *too* perfect. It didn't have *soul.*
The Z900RS had stiffer suspension, which made the ride more fun and interesting. It had a better exhaust, so it sounded nicer to ride. It also looks *sooo much better.* It just had *something* that made me want it more, despite being objectively worse in several aspects. It made the Tracer feel too corporate. Like it was what a soulless calculating computer would design as the "perfect machine," which is objectively could be. It's the perfect compromise in almost every way, but that's just it. It's all compromises, which made it just seem boring in comparison to something that made less compromises
Thank you Yammie.
It's just the bike that would suit me. Size and power. I'm 6.5' and I make most bikes look small under me. This looks like the one for me. But I will have to test ride to find out. 💪
Throw a leg over and you'll see it's NOT.
You'd like the Versys 1000 more probably, it's a fair bit bigger and taller than the Tracer. To me the Tracer feels only slightly bigger than a Versys 650.
@mrvwbug4423 I literally clicked to comment the same thing, nothing compares to the versys 1000 for a person over 6,4
Take a look at the Kawasaki Concours 14. It fits taller riders beautifully, handles great and has a fantastic engine from the ZX14.
Good review, puts in perspective your thoughts on sports touring bikes. It's all down to what our own individual preferences and priorities are. Almost every bike can do every discipline to some degree, and almost every bike is a compromise to some degree. Its then down to us to decide what our priorities and preferences are and how much we want to compromise.
I had a Tracer 900 GT and I completely agree on the "Super Scooter" feeling when commuting with it. Switched to a SV650 and I'm having much more fun with it.
I purchased a 2020 MT09 brand new years ago. I still have it. My tastes have changed a bit since then since I've hit 40. I'm looking to get a Tracer GT+ after reading its specs. And since I own a mt09 already it basically a mt09 at heart with better electronics. So the transition will be simple.
That is so true that motorcycle is such a personal thing and we show the world this is who I am, well said.
The Tracer of any year, is the kind of bike that if you're a good or decent rider, you can humble many riders.
Dude I want this bike!!!! Ride the bikes you want. It’s tough to ride the metrics. Unless there’s a demo day, everyone else wants you to sign on the dotted line before you demo.
I own a 2022 Aprilia Tuono V4 RR model that has an exhaust, airbox and tune. That is really a fun bike unbelievably fun but for me it’s about an hour and a half bike before it gets uncomfortable. Hence I bought that exact bike you just rode, a 2022 tracer 9 GT about eight months ago and I am shocked how nimble it is. On my 8 mile deserted highway course with 191 corners in it I am almost as fast on the tracer other than where it’s just a matter of horsepower. I love them both, but the tracer is so comfortable yet so nimble I really dig it. I’m actually in the process of putting on Akrapovic exhaust and a tune right now because I’m going to keep it. The bike you rode must have had some issue with the brakes because my T9’s are very good. Comparable to the Tuono’s. BTW, the T9 will cruise all day at 110.
I liked that this video just solidifies that some bikes fit us and some dont and that is ok
A few years ago I really wanted a Tracer. I used to own a TDM 850, I presently have a Kawasaki triple for (over 30 years,) and a DT125R, AND a Suzuki GSX-R 750. The Tracer seemed to combine the best attributes of all 3 bikes.
But the chassis felt to "tippy-toey" the grips put my wrists at an uncomfortable angle, and the throttle seemed to be on an elastic band ("fly-by-wire" crap). It doesn't have as much grunt as you would would expect from a biggish triple.
The controls were fiddly too, there are different modes, but not easy to access on the fly.
I loved the style, and the concept, but modern emission controls and the weight, and the riding position didn’t quite gel for me. My GSX-R is snappier and more comfortable.
My Kawasaki triple has the character and sound like no other.
My DT is light, nippy and is capable off-road. And has that genuine 2-stroke response.
So my recommendation is don't try to get one bike to do everything (mediocre) get 3 bikes that each do something brilliant, and decide what you want to do today.
Simple solution - previous generation (2019-20 Tracer 900 GT). Looks better (including TFT dash). Comes with fully adjustable front and rear suspension. Couple of thousands or more cheaper than 9GT. My 900 GT with Yamaha touring windscreen, Yamaha comfort seat and Givi top case works for me very well. Just finished 3 day 1750 km (1100 Miles) road trip without any complaints or issues.
No cruise on the old model. Also, no imu which is huge if you’ve never had it and then experience it. Your 900 dates back to 2014- the throttle on those old bikes was horrible. Nothing really fixed them either. The new MT’s and Tracers are butter smooth. So yeah, they’re worth it. Quickshifter as well on the new ones.
@@tg8150 as I mentioned 2019-20 Tracer 900GT so it comes with CC. Used to have FJ09 and have not had problems with the throttle. Perfectly smooth on GT. Quick shifter isn’t big deal to me.
After watching this again, I now see that it is ALL ABOUT LOOKS. Yammie. Gotcha. Ha!
I personally really like the Tracer 9. My buddy has one and I've ridden it allot and it always puts a smile on my face. You keep saying 366 miles as though it's a significant distance, that is not far at all.
For me personally, right now, the MT-09 would be kind of perfect for my style of riding. Comfy, kinda sporty, nice enjoyable engine, light for the cc it has, great power output... However I know for a fact my dad would hate to own one. Still, I'm positive my dad would LOVE a Tracer 9. And I would hate to own a Tracer so much, I know it, even if they share elements with the MT. But that's exactly the point, yes, the feeling someone has for a specific bike is super personal and it goes beyond numbers and stats. They might both be superb bikes and all that stuff, but maybe they're not meant for you. And that's okay. Pappa Yams always entertaining us and teaching us lessons at the same that, what a chad
Great bike, I bought mine last year; the 2022, same colour scheme as that one. It is a fun.
It all comes down to what you want. IMO it's probably the best mix of features & price that I'm ever going to find, apart from updates. Personally this is such an easy bike to ride around town, being "sensible"....but it's also capable of being a speed machine that can drag your knee in the corners. Quite a combination!
It appears Yammie removed the windscreen during riding which I find odd. The windscreen is a huge benefit of touring motorcycle in terms of comfort, noise, and fatigue when riding for extended periods or windier days. If you live in northern part of US this greatly extends your riding season. Those riding naked or sport bikes where i live mostly disappear for 1.5 months on either side of spring and fall seasons. If you live in upper midwest a partially rainy day even in mid-summer can push temps down from comfort into discomfort or risk of hypothermia real fast.
In terms of the desire to engage in more aggressive riding on street I am surprised about the comment about nerve damage in the right arm and the youth of 31years. I am considerably older and the most important things to me are retaining my human faculties well into my later years and surviving to ride another day. The most important things you learn from life experiences are you are neither invinciple and the risk vs. adrenalin reward should never be taken lightly.
I think Yam's nerve damage may be due to the nasty crash he endured a short while ago.
I own a 2020 and it's a keeper... The Engine, oh my, full exaust, it's awesome...
A little bit long stretched video but i can relate to it. I hate the fact that packing camping gear on my SV650x is such a drag. But, i like the looks and feeling i get on the bike.
Had one of these. It was stolen. Bought a 2023 MT10SP with the insurance money.... And honestly? I think the Tracer is a better bike.
Key is to strip off all the extra crap when you're not touring. Pull the bags, hand guards, pop on a sport screen.
Of course, as im a big dude (6'4" 300lb) its a much more comfortable version of the mt09sp for me.
That said, on all the days im not touring, the mt10sp is fucking nuts.
You have to give your sled a chance by finding a top notch aftermarket seat for it. ADV bikes take on an entirely different vibe if you have a great seat for em. You can’t say you tried until you fix the seat situation
2-3 years probably while the kids grow.... I'm just getting back into riding after 20
The Tracer 9GT is a bunch lighter than my FJR 1300, which, despite its weight and bulk I just love to ride. But I also own an R3 too. 😉 I think The more you rode the Ttracer 9GT the more you would love it.
After having done a test ride,the ducati scrambler nightshift is my dream bike. I need to get one
There's no such thing as a one bike solution: only compromises.
There's a bike for every mood.
Modern (or even newly developed) sport touring bikes with modern tech and modern sport touring tyres, are AT LEAST as sporty, as the GSXR I rode 20 years ago. Took my squid ass some time to get over it. Bikes and bike parts (esp tyres!) have made huge progress in the last 30ish years.
Right now I'm riding a '05 hornet 599 that I rebuild last winter as a side project. Even with all essentiel parts updated (braided brake lines, sintered brake pads, tyres, whols suspension, and many many more items), it feels like riding an old bike, which it is, even tho it has under 20k km and the motors sounds and feels like new.
I just tested a Rebell 1100 and JFC, how the hell does this chopper / bobber crossover feels so nimbel and sporty?
I have the strong feeling, that full sport bikes are a thing of the past, when it comes to mixed street riding. And TBH, I think that this is a good direction, because it is a shame, if you never had the luck to ride a longer tour on your bike.
Finally Yammie grows up 😜
Went from a 2018 Ducati Multi 1260 to KTM 690SMCR for basically all the same reasons. The Multi was awesome but too much bike for just crusing around town which is all I pretty much do on the streets. I never really used the Multi for what it was intended to do.
Hi Yammie, I am also a Ducati Scrambler Rider (model flat track pro 2016) and I have tested the desert X. The engine is very good but I did not like the handling on the road. The Scrambler is much better on the road. They should put the x engine in the Scrambler 😂
Thank you for your candor! The observation that it is less than the sum of its parts makes perfect sense. You are not the only person looking for the best all rounder; everyone it seems is looking for the same thing. I have seen numerous YT videos that confirm what you said once the owner bought what they thought would meet all their needs, a daily driver with an occasional tour they discovered like the person who is good at many things but a master of none, boring. So you see headlines like was buying the Kawasaki Z900RS a mistake? I can see how you were on paper seduced by this bike ; not an FJR1300, not a Speed Triple maybe a sweet middle spot. I too have not found it and to your point you have to identify with the bike; it has to reflect you is very true too. (Those comments in previous videos about hipsters on Triumphs wanting to look like Peaky Blinders were too funny and at the same time spot on. The Kawasaki Z900RS not sharp enough, the Yamaha XSR sharp but not an all rounder; the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX at first without any luggage could have been an all rounder; loads of tech and priced right but not sharp despite the larger engine with more hp and torque. Could the newest Katana with bi directional quick shifter and other upgrades be the all rounder?
You need to ride one with an exhaust. I’ve ridden both stock and one with an exhaust. That QS is intoxicatingggg❤️🔥 The ride quality is night and day. The desert sled is fun and lighter but I’m sure the 890 Adventure or the SMC-R from KTM should do the job for you Papa Yams.
Yammie knows, he's had an FZ-09 with a Leo Vince exhaust on it before.