Fun Fact: Not busy on the weekend, buy CSC RX1E and door dash with it as it will pay itself off pretty fast. Took me a year to pay it off at 150$ per weekend for a few hours of my time.
I have the city slicker and ended up replacing everything on it. Cheap battery cells, buggy controller and weak motor don’t make me trust this, especially at this price. I’d rather spend more and get something more reputable
Been in India for the past 3 years and I know that there's a bike called the Ultraviolette F77. About the same performance as a Duke 390 and a true range of about 150 miles. Priced at around $6950(direct conversion) in India, word is that it's coming States-side next year.
Any update? I have yet to see any sign of them actually rolling out the F77 in the US. In fact, based on how they keep having to fundraise, I doubt we will see it arrive this year at all.
In this price range the klr650 is the bike to compare this bike too. I think for me this is close enough that I could make it work but not as my only motorcycle. Love to have one as this is the first electric motorcycle that even came close to meeting my expectations. I hope they sell a lot of them. Thanks for the review.
been there, done that, 80 MPH is only sustainable for a few minutes, mostly 1 min, otherwise the battery will overheat. best 65 sustainable, even with at sustained 65 mph, your mileage will suffer. Ideally only good for 35 MPH and you might, just might make 50 miles to your destination.
CSC is the independent distributor for Zongshen Motor in the US. Zongshen was the first Chinese two-wheel maker to focus upon moving units to the West.
Like it. This is the right feature and range package. If anyone wants a touring bike for road trips, it's gonna be hard to beat gasoline over the next decade. But for in-town and commuting motorcycles, it's gonna be hard to beat a bike like this.
Im currently working on a design for a "motorcycle" that will aim to get about 1k miles at 60 mph. only thing is that its a capsule like aerodynamic faring going over you, and in a reclined position.
80mph? Wheee! It can keep up w/ traffic on SoCal freeways... You won't have any extra speed to pull off a pass, but hey, at least limited range makes it unsuited for a decent commute unless you've got a place to recharge at work. Ebike makers *have* to learn to get away from the "no gearbox, direct drive" electric propulsion and pair up a smaller motor [less current draw] to a ruggedized CVT like on a scooter so that the high rpm rides on the freeway [the faster an electric motor spins, the more power it uses] don't drain the battery so fast.
$8,500 ? I got a pristine 2008 Vstrom 650 with 12k miles for $3,600 OTD. Can tour anywhere @ 55 mpg / 250 miles / tank. Uber reliable engine never breaks just change syn oil & filters. Oh yeah it goes 110 mph. 0% interest in EV bikes. PS thanks for being honestly realistic about it's #s & limitations. For city dwellers with short commutes & near a charger day & night I see it could work well.
I don't want to point out the obvious, but a 15 year old used motorcycle doesn't quite make a great comparison. Ultimately though, they are different bikes for different uses. This obviously isn't a touring bike. Plus, I hate having to do maintenance on gas bikes, and e-motos solve that. Yes, they are more expensive, but you get a nicer experience by spending more. To each, his own.
Just crossed my fingers and dropped a preorder payment for the Fuell Fllow, hope I made a good bet, seems higher quality and has fast charging but will it turn to vapor or de-spec by launch like the Metacycle... Would love a comparison or review when available
I'm considering buying it as my first bike, but still just a little hesitant at the current price. The coupon discount is very tempting though 👀 Sure, it's cheaper than almost every other e-motorcycle out there, but if it had slightly better range at higher speeds and was compatible with a level 2 charger then I'd be sold immediately. If I do end up getting the RX1E, I would also get a 250-500cc gas bike as a backup if I forget to charge it.
I got a Honda Rebel 500 SE and I instantly regretted it when I learned about Dual Clutch Transmission and electric bikes having instant torque. I just don’t like manual shifting that much.
@@lucristianx I'm willing to learn manual just in case I ever need it. Besides, I'm also planning on soon getting motorcycle training and license so I'll need to learn it anyway. The ease of riding electric and the freeway-capable speeds makes this bike very worth it imo
@@lucristianxehh you get used to it. I bought a 2006 Honda rebel 250 back in January and have been riding her almost every single day. At first I absolutely hated how inconvenient it was having to constantly remember to upshift or downshift depending on traffic or lights. But nowadays it’s become second nature like breathing, you don’t even notice you’re doing it unless you focus on it lol
It is a good looking bike, but the price and range are still not quite right. The boxes are not good at all. They are rather chunky looking, and I would be concerned that UV light will degrade them quickly.
@@charlienyc1 I guess one solution could be to ride it on cloudy/rainy days, but that creates a whole other problem. I wish parking my motorcycle at work had shade, but my baby gets to bake in the sun until sunset.
As long as it comes with a blow horn or some kind of ear damaging auxiliary item so I can compete with my neighbors, maybe some kind of loud fart noice accessory,just maybe, I can be convinced.
With 70 mph being the maximum legal speed in the vast majority of countries there's no need for any manufactures to make any vehicles that can go any faster, just concentrate on making them cheaper to buy, have more range & faster charging.
Hi Mark, I’m not involved in Vruzend operations, I just helped with engineering design of the kit. I was told though that all kickstarter kits were shipped.
Is that a realistic ask though? Can you name any ICE motorcycle under 200lb? I am struggling to think of any that are under 300lb TBH, and no, 50cc dirtbikes and/or scooters don't count.
No it doesn't. It is a 6 hour charge time, which completely defeats the touring type styling. There is a converter that allows you to plug in to Type 2 chargers, and I have heard claims that it doubles the charging speed, but no-one is telling what the actual charge rate of the converter is, and in any case, even 3 hours charge time is too slow for touring and day trips. The battery on this bike is over 6kWh capacity, so ideally it needs a 6.6. kW type 2 charging system to make it anywhere near viable for short to medium distance touring. I wouldn't want to spend more than an hour per recharge while on the road. Slow charging is fine overnight or during business hours, but that then limits this bike to use as a daily commuter.
I leave for work before 6am and the idea of not upsetting all the neighbours every day is really nice. But until I can get a bike that can do 70mph with a pillion for 140miles and cost less than £10,000 the neighbours get to suffer. Cmon electric, Get useful.
How loud or quiet is it when it's being driven? I've tried to find this out in different videos, but everyone mutes it and plays music and / or talks during the riding segments.
So I think I found out I found a few videos showing it’s speed it’s only as loud as to the point where you can hear it starting up and accelerating but besides that riding it is quiet
I have a question, would this bike be good for Moto Camping (because of the side storage) and maybe doing the "NEBDR"? I am looking to get either an all electric bike for commuting and moto camping or a gas bike for the same reason. What would you suggest? I do prefer the all electric, but open to gas bikes.
I love electric bikes. I own an ebike and want a electric motorcycle. for a long trip this thing is gonna suck you can go 100 miles at 30mph then look up the charge time it will take hours to recharge not sure on specifics as a my use case is overnight. it seems like an awesome commuter and if you have moto camping close by it would be awesome but maybe not 100 miles away.
The biggest consideration is just on how far you plan to go. If it's not terribly far, then it could be good. If its more than 50-60 miles, I'd be a bit stressed myself. But if its on trails, then you'll be going slower and using less battery. Just get some appropriate tires.
Electric is not great for moto camping. With gas you have gasoline if you can't start a fire by other means. It's much easier for a stranger to give you gasoline than electricity. You have a heat source if you get stranded in the cold. Gas bike range doesn't suffer with larger cargo loads. Gas bikes are easier to resell if you change hobbies.
So this is probably the same power as a 250cc ICE bike but costs twice as much. Hmmmmm, tuff choice!! When are bike manufacturers going to build motorcycles around a battery, instead of the traditional form factor of a standard motorcycle. It just makes no sense.......
The included charger outputs 109 volts DC and accepts both 110V or 220V input. 110v fully charges a dead battery in 5 hours at 1700 watts, 220V in 2 hours at 300 watts off an automobile evse.
$8.5k can buy a lot of gas and a car is far safer. Don't forget, motorcycle tires don't last long and are not cheap. I'm glad that an ordinary ebike suits my needs. I do have a motorcycle but it's only for fun.
They should have been pursuing hydrogen fuel cell all this time. I keep saying that but it would have had five times the endurance for the same weight.
>over 8k Bruh this screams cope so loudly that my ears are ringing. The Honda Navi is barely over $2k and doesn't cost a kidney, eye and a foreskin. I'd rather have temporary C02 at a lower cost. Also Lithium leach fields.
I'm in the production game, despite what's said , and what people think , power wise etc this is a 1000 dollar production cost ok ,throw in the dealer cost etc maybe another 2k , now take into account a profit for the companies themselves of a 1000. We talking top hit, 5k anything over that. Money grab.
I wish you had shared what you produce. I would make sure to avoid it, lol. If you think this costs $1k FOB, then I want a hit of what you're smoking :-)
This is such a weird thing to larp lmfao Anyone with any kind of job at all would know you’re near $1000 on the battery alone, even in china This is the most delusional youtube comment I’ve seen in a while, which is saying something
It might already be available in Europe. This bike is made by Zongshen Motors in China and CSC is the American importer/distributor. They may already have a European importer/distributor, it's worth looking into.
$7400 !!! with these specs ??? you kidding me ??? liquid cooled motor, belt drive… judging by origin of the components, after 1000 miles this bike will become a service and repair money pit, value wise it’s not worth even half of it. Please review “EAhora M1P Pro” half the price even with 2 (TWO) batteries in the battery compartment, up to 53 mph and 80 miles AGGRESSIVE riding, almost 0 service requirements, love to hear your opinion about “Eahora”.
Fun Fact: Not busy on the weekend, buy CSC RX1E and door dash with it as it will pay itself off pretty fast. Took me a year to pay it off at 150$ per weekend for a few hours of my time.
I have the city slicker and ended up replacing everything on it. Cheap battery cells, buggy controller and weak motor don’t make me trust this, especially at this price. I’d rather spend more and get something more reputable
I have a city slicker and would like to know more about these replacement parts. I didn’t think the ride has been bad. It’s been a fun experiment.
The ideal commuter e-bike is getting much closer. Great to see new contenders on this segment
Glad to see electric motorcycles getting more cheap but good options
2,800 75MPH
Been in India for the past 3 years and I know that there's a bike called the Ultraviolette F77.
About the same performance as a Duke 390 and a true range of about 150 miles.
Priced at around $6950(direct conversion) in India, word is that it's coming States-side next year.
Thanks for the information. I was wondering when the Ultraviolette was coming to America.
will definitely be looking forward to that, anything is better than supporting california.
Any update? I have yet to see any sign of them actually rolling out the F77 in the US. In fact, based on how they keep having to fundraise, I doubt we will see it arrive this year at all.
Value. You nailed it right there, Micah. CSC Motorcycles seems to be good at that.
In this price range the klr650 is the bike to compare this bike too. I think for me this is close enough that I could make it work but not as my only motorcycle. Love to have one as this is the first electric motorcycle that even came close to meeting my expectations. I hope they sell a lot of them. Thanks for the review.
Electric motorcycle that goes 75 MPH
been there, done that, 80 MPH is only sustainable for a few minutes, mostly 1 min, otherwise the battery will overheat. best 65 sustainable, even with at sustained 65 mph, your mileage will suffer. Ideally only good for 35 MPH and you might, just might make 50 miles to your destination.
Xi Jing Ping thanks you
Gave a thumbs up but the varying loudness background(?) music is QUITE distracting.
This is a huge step in the right direction. If i were a uni student, this would be top of my list
What is uni?
@@lambertj.2892 university
its my case, i worked and save some money, and im about to buy a e-motorcycle... i hope it will be worth it
I'll support them from a distance.
i’m not sold but i do like that it does 80 MPH
2,800 75 mph
@@kobelookalike1 😎😎
My stealth bomber can do that and it’s a “bicycle”
@@MoneyBuysDrug incredible we’re did you order it from I like those bikes .
@@burn1gotbeats I built it
Doesn't CSC just rebrand Chinese motos? I wonder what the equivalent is from Alibaba, and the price.
CSC is the independent distributor for Zongshen Motor in the US. Zongshen was the first Chinese two-wheel maker to focus upon moving units to the West.
Like it. This is the right feature and range package.
If anyone wants a touring bike for road trips, it's gonna be hard to beat gasoline over the next decade.
But for in-town and commuting motorcycles, it's gonna be hard to beat a bike like this.
Im currently working on a design for a "motorcycle" that will aim to get about 1k miles at 60 mph. only thing is that its a capsule like aerodynamic faring going over you, and in a reclined position.
@@geshscale6068I've been thinking about how nice something like that would be. Like something out of Akira 🤩
Nothing about charging speeds? Or chargers?
Please review the CTC E-RT3. Is this a good maxi-scooter replacement?
I would like to see the RX1E compared the Kollter ES1!
80mph? Wheee! It can keep up w/ traffic on SoCal freeways... You won't have any extra speed to pull off a pass, but hey, at least limited range makes it unsuited for a decent commute unless you've got a place to recharge at work.
Ebike makers *have* to learn to get away from the "no gearbox, direct drive" electric propulsion and pair up a smaller motor [less current draw] to a ruggedized CVT like on a scooter so that the high rpm rides on the freeway [the faster an electric motor spins, the more power it uses] don't drain the battery so fast.
and battery tends to overheat at that sustain speed, even a Zero motorcycle who has been doing e motorcycles forever has issues
$8,500 ?
I got a pristine 2008 Vstrom 650 with 12k miles for $3,600 OTD.
Can tour anywhere @ 55 mpg / 250 miles / tank.
Uber reliable engine never breaks just change syn oil & filters.
Oh yeah it goes 110 mph.
0% interest in EV bikes.
PS thanks for being honestly realistic about it's #s & limitations.
For city dwellers with short commutes & near a charger day & night I see it could work well.
I don't want to point out the obvious, but a 15 year old used motorcycle doesn't quite make a great comparison. Ultimately though, they are different bikes for different uses. This obviously isn't a touring bike. Plus, I hate having to do maintenance on gas bikes, and e-motos solve that. Yes, they are more expensive, but you get a nicer experience by spending more. To each, his own.
WOW it looks like those surron dirt e-bikes and great demonstration,my friend wants a motorcycle and this might be good
2,800 75MPH
Just crossed my fingers and dropped a preorder payment for the Fuell Fllow, hope I made a good bet, seems higher quality and has fast charging but will it turn to vapor or de-spec by launch like the Metacycle... Would love a comparison or review when available
Would love something like this in the EU. We never need to get more than 30-60 minutes to commute from home to work.
I'm considering buying it as my first bike, but still just a little hesitant at the current price. The coupon discount is very tempting though 👀 Sure, it's cheaper than almost every other e-motorcycle out there, but if it had slightly better range at higher speeds and was compatible with a level 2 charger then I'd be sold immediately. If I do end up getting the RX1E, I would also get a 250-500cc gas bike as a backup if I forget to charge it.
2,800 75MPH
I got a Honda Rebel 500 SE and I instantly regretted it when I learned about Dual Clutch Transmission and electric bikes having instant torque. I just don’t like manual shifting that much.
@@lucristianx I'm willing to learn manual just in case I ever need it. Besides, I'm also planning on soon getting motorcycle training and license so I'll need to learn it anyway. The ease of riding electric and the freeway-capable speeds makes this bike very worth it imo
@@anthonysantana I’m definitely getting it
@@lucristianxehh you get used to it. I bought a 2006 Honda rebel 250 back in January and have been riding her almost every single day. At first I absolutely hated how inconvenient it was having to constantly remember to upshift or downshift depending on traffic or lights. But nowadays it’s become second nature like breathing, you don’t even notice you’re doing it unless you focus on it lol
When you realize that there are some e bikes that sell in the $10K range, this is a bargain.
A Damon Hyperfighter is $19k-$35k
Exactly. People with modded Sur Ron’s cost more than the RX1E but have less speed, not legal, and nowhere near the battery.
Until a major breakthru occurs with battery weight and longevity ,these things will only have a small market.
I'd be even more interested in the E-RT3, more range, cheaper, and even more practical! :)
CSC - they do make some nice looking bikes.
Kinda makes me wanna get an e moto now
The Fuell Fllow has competition
I’m in Texas. I want to buy an e motorcycle but it’s so confusing! Someone make it easy for me!!
It is a good looking bike, but the price and range are still not quite right. The boxes are not good at all. They are rather chunky looking, and I would be concerned that UV light will degrade them quickly.
Well, uh, just keep it out of the sun 😆
@@charlienyc1 I guess one solution could be to ride it on cloudy/rainy days, but that creates a whole other problem. I wish parking my motorcycle at work had shade, but my baby gets to bake in the sun until sunset.
Can you share tech spec of that EV bike ? Dimensions , tire width and so on , also what the range with a full loaded battery ?
I was hoping for a review of the charging times and process.
I would like one, but I cannot get house insurance as it would be kept in my garage which is attached to my house🙁
Much safer i ordered a few of these yet to arrive im excited
As long as it comes with a blow horn or some kind of ear damaging auxiliary item so I can compete with my neighbors, maybe some kind of loud fart noice accessory,just maybe, I can be convinced.
Very easy to ride just need to watch the throttle and distance. Otherwise i would buy in a min
Coupon code didn't work :/
Are there electric bikes that use superchargers? Because I wouldn't mind taking a break every 50 mi to charge the bike
With 70 mph being the maximum legal speed in the vast majority of countries there's no need for any manufactures to make any vehicles that can go any faster, just concentrate on making them cheaper to buy, have more range & faster charging.
You didn’t show how you charge it.
ПРАСТИТЕ А МОЖНО КУПИТЬ ЭТОТ БАЙК МНЕ ОН ОЧЕНЬ ПОНРАВИЛСЯ И ЖЕЛАТЕЛЬНО С ЦЕПНЫМ ПРИВАДОМ ... И СКОЛЬКО ОН БУДИТ СТОИТЬ
Vruzend , don't cheat us Micah, we pledged , please deliver
Hi Mark, I’m not involved in Vruzend operations, I just helped with engineering design of the kit. I was told though that all kickstarter kits were shipped.
Weight is still a big issue for me. I would love these specs at around 200 lbs because I can't really work with anything heavier than that.
Is that a realistic ask though? Can you name any ICE motorcycle under 200lb? I am struggling to think of any that are under 300lb TBH, and no, 50cc dirtbikes and/or scooters don't count.
Does this bike do fast charging? Would have been nice to see the port or if you have to take the battery out to be charged.
No it doesn't. It is a 6 hour charge time, which completely defeats the touring type styling. There is a converter that allows you to plug in to Type 2 chargers, and I have heard claims that it doubles the charging speed, but no-one is telling what the actual charge rate of the converter is, and in any case, even 3 hours charge time is too slow for touring and day trips. The battery on this bike is over 6kWh capacity, so ideally it needs a 6.6. kW type 2 charging system to make it anywhere near viable for short to medium distance touring. I wouldn't want to spend more than an hour per recharge while on the road. Slow charging is fine overnight or during business hours, but that then limits this bike to use as a daily commuter.
Nice. Looking forward to seeing these on the sidewalks and bike lanes in my city.
It looks identical to the Sinnis Terrain
How is this bike compared with Sondor ?
Getting a lot closer, but range still isn't good enough.
I leave for work before 6am and the idea of not upsetting all the neighbours every day is really nice. But until I can get a bike that can do 70mph with a pillion for 140miles and cost less than £10,000 the neighbours get to suffer. Cmon electric, Get useful.
If there is a discount code and it's sporting your name, does it mean this is a sponsored video?
No, we don’t get anything for you using that code. Codes are often generated like that so companies can track which avenue their customers came from.
How loud or quiet is it when it's being driven? I've tried to find this out in different videos, but everyone mutes it and plays music and / or talks during the riding segments.
So I think I found out I found a few videos showing it’s speed it’s only as loud as to the point where you can hear it starting up and accelerating but besides that riding it is quiet
@@encelade. Thank you! I appreciate the info.
How does this compare to the kollter?
I have a question, would this bike be good for Moto Camping (because of the side storage) and maybe doing the "NEBDR"? I am looking to get either an all electric bike for commuting and moto camping or a gas bike for the same reason. What would you suggest? I do prefer the all electric, but open to gas bikes.
I love electric bikes. I own an ebike and want a electric motorcycle. for a long trip this thing is gonna suck you can go 100 miles at 30mph then look up the charge time it will take hours to recharge not sure on specifics as a my use case is overnight. it seems like an awesome commuter and if you have moto camping close by it would be awesome but maybe not 100 miles away.
The biggest consideration is just on how far you plan to go. If it's not terribly far, then it could be good. If its more than 50-60 miles, I'd be a bit stressed myself. But if its on trails, then you'll be going slower and using less battery. Just get some appropriate tires.
Electric is not great for moto camping. With gas you have gasoline if you can't start a fire by other means. It's much easier for a stranger to give you gasoline than electricity. You have a heat source if you get stranded in the cold. Gas bike range doesn't suffer with larger cargo loads. Gas bikes are easier to resell if you change hobbies.
@@scratchymaster thank you thank you
@@Electrek I really apricate that. thanks.
Now we need a 3 wheel version that doesnt need a motorcycle license but can do all the same things.
Just get a motorcycle license
What're the chances of these catching on fire from the sun?
So this is probably the same power as a 250cc ICE bike but costs twice as much. Hmmmmm, tuff choice!! When are bike manufacturers going to build motorcycles around a battery, instead of the traditional form factor of a standard motorcycle. It just makes no sense.......
What's the charge speed?
The included charger outputs 109 volts DC and accepts both 110V or 220V input. 110v fully charges a dead battery in 5 hours at 1700 watts, 220V in 2 hours at 300 watts off an automobile evse.
If I can't ride it to the next town at 25 miles away without worrying about making it home, it's just not worth it.
2800 75mph
$8.5k can buy a lot of gas and a car is far safer. Don't forget, motorcycle tires don't last long and are not cheap. I'm glad that an ordinary ebike suits my needs. I do have a motorcycle but it's only for fun.
🤩🤩🤩
8 grand is yikes. They will go down tho soon
Wow just 8k im on it 🤣
They should have been pursuing hydrogen fuel cell all this time. I keep saying that but it would have had five times the endurance for the same weight.
I’m Sold
This motorcycle is impossible to buy outside of USA or Europe, sad.
Looks pretty cool for it's purpose . What are your thoughts meta and the anthem compared to this?
Sorry, I wanted to watch but had to stop because of the constant music. Too distracting.
Gas motorcycles are still 1000 times better for much less money
25k is not low cost
So expensive. Gas is still relatively cheap and plentiful. Just get a gas powered bike. Sounds better too!!
Need a driver license??
Depends on the country, of you live in for example Afghanistan you dont need a driver lisencse but you need it in european countries and the us
>over 8k
Bruh this screams cope so loudly that my ears are ringing.
The Honda Navi is barely over $2k and doesn't cost a kidney, eye and a foreskin.
I'd rather have temporary C02 at a lower cost. Also Lithium leach fields.
Same here, my super cub does the commute and city hopper, and I just need 1 or 2 bucks to get going for a while
So, this promises what the Sondors Metacycle could not deliver? 80mph with 80 miles of range...
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I don't trust electric vehicles.
I'm in the production game, despite what's said , and what people think , power wise etc this is a 1000 dollar production cost ok ,throw in the dealer cost etc maybe another 2k , now take into account a profit for the companies themselves of a 1000. We talking top hit, 5k anything over that. Money grab.
I wish you had shared what you produce. I would make sure to avoid it, lol. If you think this costs $1k FOB, then I want a hit of what you're smoking :-)
This is such a weird thing to larp lmfao
Anyone with any kind of job at all would know you’re near $1000 on the battery alone, even in china
This is the most delusional youtube comment I’ve seen in a while, which is saying something
I got an electric motorcycle for 2.8K and it goes 75MPH
Yes, and you spammed a ton of comments with these numbers. 🙄
Excellent. Now bring it over to Europe.
It might already be available in Europe. This bike is made by Zongshen Motors in China and CSC is the American importer/distributor. They may already have a European importer/distributor, it's worth looking into.
$7400 !!! with these specs ??? you kidding me ??? liquid cooled motor, belt drive… judging by origin of the components, after 1000 miles this bike will become a service and repair money pit, value wise it’s not worth even half of it. Please review “EAhora M1P Pro” half the price even with 2 (TWO) batteries in the battery compartment, up to 53 mph and 80 miles AGGRESSIVE riding, almost 0 service requirements, love to hear your opinion about “Eahora”.
you cant say times are changing when these useless e-motos are the price of a real motorcycle that is infinite more useful. still so useless
Exactly