How to design a Bobber Motorcycle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I run through the basics of how to design a bobber motorcycle from a Honda CB Four by discussing the simple aspects of the frame and lines.
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For a shed build bobber. Use the swinging arm as a guide and a jig for your rear axle plates. Lower the cradle to the height you want for ground clearance. Place the rear wheel into the tacked on axle plates. You shout now see the line to follow from the headstock . Remove all the top tubes from the stock frame. Install a single backbone from the headstock . ( align it with the centre of the tire)
Now you have a point to work to with your hard tail. Good old fashioned gas pipe works well as a material for knocking up rear ends. Use a tube bender to put angles in all 4 hardtail tubes. Good luck. Any questions?
I would LOVE a program that lets you do what you are doing, adding components and such to a stock bike.
I wish there was one.
i was 15 when i made my mini bobber.. it had a water cooled 49cc honda motor 8" ape hangers and was full black, the frame was inspired by a yamaha v star bobber and had a mini seat.. got a achieved with merit for it
Great stuff, it's good to push the builds.
You can get a bolt on hardtail for the cb. Bolt it on and weld it up !
what type of program are you using to do this .
It’s after effects
I tried something similar to this in late 80s, hardtail, american made short girder forks, with headstock, fitted by hand cutting 5mm gusset plates to mate to original headstock, all frame brackets cleaned up,
The only critiical issues i found were...making sure the chain and sprockets lined up perfectly, getting the carbs jetted properly to run k&n filters(massive pain), bigger jets needed, hours of trying needle positions, long full length open pipes, with very minimal baffles, to give enough exhaust back pressure, a new wiring loom made up, to replace the brittle old mess!!, ........new old stock points carefully set, .....
By far the best instructional of going over the basic concepts I have seen yet and I'm not even finished with the video.
Thank you :)
I don't know if it is a bobber or what it is called. I once borrowed a bike that was at its core a HD Sportster. But it had Fat Boy front forks, a larger tear drop tank and a fatter rear tire. The front I think was standard Sportster. I had never rode a bike like that and was concerned it would be tricky or unstable. Oh my, it was so comfortable, fun and balanced. And the smaller front tire made it a joy to steer. The handlebars I think were "Mini Apes" so you really sat "in" the bike, low center of gravity and you could lean back and really relax with the EZ steering. So I'm thinking or building one. Just looking for the best donor bike.
Sounds good, also sounds like it could have been a chopper?
It was a pleasure meeting you today at Dime City Cycles
I will never get rid of my Roadmaster but you have inspired me to work on adding a Bobber to my garage
And you too, happy riding.
Love it insperation to finish mine
I'm trying so hard to get my 76 xs650 finished but had many delays on funding for it. Can't wait to ride it.
Awesome bets of luck.
@@forthebold thanks!
A sawed off seat bracket with a peice of foam and vynle does not make a bobber ...thank you for putting down some real guidelines of a true bobber.The world is full of removed seats and calling it a bobber.
More than a hard ride to have a hardtail its a VERY squirrely ride.For a beginner rider.No shocks no suspension means the rear end "bobbs " a round losing grip and traction. It looks very cool parked.
But using one everyday as transportation a cafe or half cafe
A "de-caf" is tracker handle bars no rear sets , standard foot control position and the rest following a cafe styled bike a "de-caf" is most practical for everyday transport and safest. The cafe position keeps your head low below seeing over traffic again looks cool but not a safe road driving position.
The more upright you can be to be alert and very aware is parimount over style..
True, I always think of a bobber being hard tailed as you 'bob' around on your seat then, although the new Triumphs have integrated shocks whist maintaining that hard tailed look.
For The Bold - dreegez I built and drove everyday for a year till the 1982 motor thru a rod.A bobber is great to look at but riding everyday you get beat up.They are awesome to look at great to blast on once in a while .
For The Bold - dreegez I have since built a cafe styled 550 kawasaki from an 1982 ltd.has GPZ tank a bubble seat I made in metal , a universal front fairing and a gpz. Front fender , low rize handle bars .. Its way less scary and twitch on road irregularitys feels planted on all road surfaces and works well as an everyday driver. I get a lot of complements from bikers its a cafe style without clip ons and rear sets .which is the better safer more defensive upright driving position I preferr on a daily driver.
Thanks a lot mate. I always hoped you'd upload a video like this. love the final rendition. just awesome.
Thanks. It's been on my list for a while and whilst I didn't have a build video to put up this week I thought I'd bring it forward as I know it's been anticipated.
What diameter steel and thicknesses for rear end?. Can just use solid bar ?
You just helped me how to re-frame the rear part of my Brat motorcycle. I hope this project of mine gets successful. LOL! Good video! Thanks man!
I looked at AFTER EFFECTS something i dont understand though ,d id you already have the pictures of the bike stripped at various stages or did you have to take them as you stripped the bike and load them up to make the whole bike in the first shot then you have the ability to remove them one by one to strip the bike back down ? , if so to much work it would take me less time to get the angle grinder out but its very impressive software thanks for making this.
Bro, what song is that in the beginning? It's hitting the nostalgia button for me and I have no idea why.
My father's side of the family have always ridden Bobber style bikes, Love em' to bits, can't wait to finish my car license to shut up my mum, then I can finally start my bike licence. 😊
Good luck with your license.
Just by sheer chance the demo bike you used is the same model a couple of my friends used to build my chopper (only stock parts on it are the engine and transmission)
Good donor
Congrats bro. This video explain exactly how to build a bobber.
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Is there any online page for those images? Want to build my own bike in Photoshop, but I just can’t find any high quality images of the needed parts.
Only google.
Hay I’m new to motor bikes and I ride a gn250 but I’m planning to build a cruiser/bobber and was wondering what a good bike would be to build
Entirely up to you with what you feel comfortable with and what you can afford
greatest tutorial ever related to building a bike
I learned some things every time I watch your videos thanks
Thanks for watching them
Hello! I'm pretty new at customing bikes, just wanna ask if it's okay to use the long seat? Instead of the single seat? Sorry for my bad english but i hope you understand.
Hey, I guess it's going more of a cruiser if you use a longer seat plus I think you'd need some heavy reinforcement to carry 2 people.
Thanks for posting this! I'm going to start converting my bike into a bobber this summer. When I'm done with that I'm hoping to start a cafe build.
Excellent, sounds good. What bike will you be working on?
For The Bold - dreegez It's a Honda Shadow VLX.
Nice, good frame to use. Good luck
For The Bold - dreegez Thank man!
I saw both videos and I'm wondering if it's alright if you don't have an air filter
You have to have an air filter as your engine won’t last long without. But in these videos we’re replacing the original with pods
I have a Suzuki intruder 125 and I'm thinking about making it a bobber. What would it cost me to do it myself?
Sapien 1000
Great help. My first street bike was a cb750 for street riding a 1969. and two yrs old . tells you I am a dinosaur. You seem like just the man for a question I have. I have my hands on two Harley 48 1200 Sportsters. both of them were butchered in trying to
turn them out for bobbers. (I think) The rear fenders were torn off. there are a couple of ripped up bobber seats. I think the bracket may be salvageable on one, but the other is totaled. both swing arms and rear shocks are hanging on by a thread. One of the gas tanks may be able to fix, but I don't know. Any way I think I can pull them both back together, but I don't know how I should handle the frames. Build em back up to original, or toss it all and go with hard tail ridged. and just do a simple bob on them. Got any ideas? I know it's hard with out pictures. Thanks.
Definitely a tricky one, If it was me I'd use the better one as a base and the other as parts. Does the gas tank have any pin holes, POR15 should do the trick for that. The simplest way would be a bobber that a hard tailed for sure, let me know what you decide on doing, p.s. I would love to get my hands on a sportster.
Hey man, love the videos and love the direction your channel is moving in. Just had one question... if you remove the oil tank on the bobbers and cafe racers what do you replace it with to feed oil to the bike? Is it oil for the engine or oil cooling? Thanks
That's true, the 750s were dry sump, so needed the oil fed from a tank. In terms of relocating Cognito Moto do an amazingly thin tank that fits between the frame and hides in between the pillars.
For The Bold - dreegez thanks man, keeping up the good work. Can't wait for the next video.
need help.. pls tell me wt software u used to make dis... cz this is the best to pre set my project for a build. and is it possible to make a boober from YAMAHA RX 100 OR RX 135
I used photoshop to create this. There's a video here
th-cam.com/video/J_upNkWp29M/w-d-xo.html
And yes yu could create a bobber from a Yamaha RX
thanks very much fella, really gonna come in handy for myself.
Good job sir. Very soon I'm gonna start my custom work too🤤
Thanks. Best of luck.
The hardtail is a classic bobber look alright, and when one is a young biker, it's cool to cruise on one, however, we older biker's backs are now paying the price for that cool look, strictly on softails now........
May I suggest instead of starting with a honda frame, which requires large scale fabrication that a better base platform might be a Harley Sportster, Yamaha Bolt, or an Indian Scout. Solid design though.
Absolutely, the Honda isn't the easiest but here I wanted to show how different you could make a bike look so I used the same bike as in the Cafe Racer video.
For The Bold - dreegez Right on man!
For The Bold - dreegez the Honda Shadow VLX600s are super easy to bob out though!
Hi what program are you using to design these bikes?
Why would you start with a cafe racer like this for a bobber? Turned out cool just seems like way more work to completely rebuild a frame instead of just starting with a bike that already has that shape like a hard tail Harley?
Part of the fun of working on these bikes are to create a hard tail, but even bikes like Harleys, some have suspension so to create a proper hard tail is just the same job
Yeah that makes sense
you have the best intro on youtube
+Morten Tilley amazing to hear that. Thanks
my project bike is 2010 honda vfr 800 but i hate cafe racer type bike what kind of bike can i change my project bike bobber scrambler or redesing superbike maybe you could give some advise suggest VTEC ENGİNE is sound best for me thank you :)
or 2014 honda vfr 800 f deluxe
+NİKOLA TESLA entirely up to you. Whatever you feel you would prefer and what you would like to build. There are so many newer builds coming out so a lot of good examples out there
Wow! you are such a genius! You deserve a lot more likes and subscribes! Your channel of course shall grow big sooner!
Thank you. These comments always make my day. By all means spread the word ;)
What's the app you're using for re modeling the bike
It’s just photoshop
XCLNT VIDEO ...BUT PLZ TELL ME HOW 2 ADD NEW KIND OF FRT SOCCER SET???
+HITESH CHOWDHURY thanks. Sorry, I'm not sure I understand the question.
This actually looks very cool!
Thank you. :)
Like it can you show a bandit streetfighter on the photo shop that's wot I am building
Yeah good idea in the next coming weeks
Rear suspension system??
+Jeenath Kumar it's a 'hard tail' bobber, so no suspension in the rear. Only seat springs
Try a shaft driven motorcycle becuse thoes tend to be more of a challange lets see if your up to it
Already done 2 shaft drive bikes, check out the rest of the video series for them
can you make more videos like this... I love your making design... thanks for information about designs ..
Definitely, I'm hoping to get more out.
yay ive been waiting for this one!!
Amazing, I hope you enjoy it.
were did you get this disc to do this??
im currently turning my 77 gs 750 into a bobber but kind of a poor mans bobber fabbing and doing everything myself. i dont want to cut the frame all that much so i just dropped the rear end down its kind of its own bike at this point.
That's exactly what bike builds should be, do what you want to do, don't listen to anyone else.
@@forthebold i finally got it to run and ride around the block today. i had to run a new wiring harness which now makes way to me using the digital gauge i got over the stock cluster. people seem to like how its turning out so far no clue what im doing just kind of winging it. i made my own bolt in hard tail parts until can find shocks that give me the ride height i want.
I have a bobber .....
And I love mine. It fun looks great
And it's Fast. And it's mine
There is a growing rend in them
Is it possible to transform a Honda Hornet of 2008 to bobber?
Anything's possible.
That's the still of boober that I like ! On day I would like to have a cafe racer and a bobber (like you did) because that's the best type of motocycle for me
But I don't have the skill to do it so I will have to learn everything ! :D
ps : Love your built video and how to design it's verry inspiring
Take it easy and slowly and you'll soon get the hang of it.
Yes that's what I will do ! And when we have the passion it's not a problem to take time and many tries
Absolutely, even failure is a positive as it's a form of learning.
I think if you can learn to cut metal then joint it again (with considerable strength, whatever mean) you can make probably everything. Looking forward to that sick build of yours!
Cheers
That's the issue I find with welding. There's a knack to getting the weld strong enough.
What app are you using in this video,,. I’m fixing to start a project bike with a 1980 Yamaha xs 850 and that would really help. Thanks
+Jon McEwan hi, it's photoshop I've designed this in
For The Bold - dreegez okay thank you i will try that
+Jon McEwan at www.fortheboldindustries.com there are a few photoshop files to download to get started.
For The Bold - dreegez i looked at the site but I couldn’t figure out how to download
+Jon McEwan in the 'downloads' tab there'll be a few psd files to download for photoshop in those articles with images of bikes
Which software you are using to edit these bikes?
Photoshop
What's a aplication to make this design?
Photoshop.
First time seeing a vid of yours and i loved how it was done, when im designing in my head i picture and brake down in the same wayeven to the point of using my finger in the air to slide off the mental image haha. and i agree go big or go home with a bobber but it would be a boring world if we all had the same bloody thing :)
Amazing, I hope you enjoy the rest of the videos on this channel. And I completely agree, if we all created the same thing, in anything we do in life, it would be boring.
Very educative, clear explaination and exposición o ideas. Tkx
hello! please explain what you added 'a hard tail' at 2:49
forgive me for being ignorant
So a hard tail is just a frame extension without suspension
@@forthebold is this custom made?
It can be
@@forthebold oh you mean if i take out the suspension off of the standard rear frame then it is known as a 'hard tail'? and the 'suspension' becomes the springs beneath the Seat?
Thanks a lot man! i really appreciate it! this video is 2 years old and you still replied! have a great one!
Is it possible to build bobber with yamaha rx 100 bike
Any bike is possible
great vid, what program did you use to design?
Thanks. I use photoshop
Please video make on Bajaj platina into nice looking bike
Hi, you have not placed ack shocks ....plz reply for that
It’s a hard tail bobber. No shocks on those
@@forthebold but without back shocks, it would b very unhealthy for human body as on jumps and bad road....how it will run smoothly?
@@forthebold I need to use this design but include shocks
@@forthebold plz guide me....should I place shocks from back central excel to seat.
Ride it on flat roads.
What app/website do you do this on?
I did this with photoshop. There's a video here.
th-cam.com/video/J_upNkWp29M/w-d-xo.html
Apologies for it not being a Build video as promised. But I'll be back to it next week.
p.s. I know that the exhaust goes into the front tyre on this. My mistake.
For The Bold - dreegez Ok,
The look of, is absolutely correct.
your design topline is correct.
So here is my question.
You may have explained this a number of times,
but can you please tell me what design software you are using in your videos ?
Thank you !
It's photoshop, I have an explanation video here for the design, then the animation is done in After Effects.
th-cam.com/video/J_upNkWp29M/w-d-xo.html
For The Bold - dreegez Thanks !
I pretty much assumed.
But you know what happens when you assume !
Again,
thanks,
and I appreciate your sending me the TH-cam link !
For The Bold - dreegez Again thank you,
I use CS5 and Lightroom.
I think I have Extend 10 but not sure.
been a bit since I have used it.
Not utilizing it everyday makes a huge difference.
That's true, using it every day makes a difference.
how this honda bike is caled ??
what program do you use , i like this
I use After Effects for this.
I have a MacBook. Is there a program I can use to design motorcycles?
There's photoshop, like in this example video if that helps
th-cam.com/video/J_upNkWp29M/w-d-xo.html
Que programa para rditar la moto uso?
Photoshop
Salut peut tu me donner le nom du logiciel utilisé pour créer la moto
Photoshop
The tank doesnt fit on a bobber. Take a regular softail tank for that purpose
Nice.. i also build full custom frame on my bobber on my channel
Very cool video. Thanks
What song is in the intro
Ya habib Bal Qullbi
what fuel tank is that? ...amazing design btw!
I think that's a custom tank.
Looks like a Harley Davidson sportster tank. They are quite commonly used on bobbers
basically you can just buy a...nothing:D a half frame for 50 pounds and do the Rest:D awesome video:)
Basically yes, that's exactly it. To be honest I know some bobber builders that don't even bother with that much even, they fabricate most themselves. There's certainly an art to these bikes.
Frame for 50 pound, junkyard engine and a lot of sweat for a "budget" build
enjoying your videos, good motivation
Thanks, good to hear they're motivating.
Thanks for simple bobber
you awesome ...... it's touched my heart 😎😎😍😎😎
Thanks for watching
Can bajaj avenger 220 into bobber?
Anything is possible with skill and time.
yes, for sure ..
reply back if you wanna get 1 built for u in India
Where is the air filter?
Use pods instead
Why not start with a cruiser?
+eatsleepplayrepeat it would be the easier option but I wanted to show it using the same donor as the cafe racer video to show how different both bikes could look
app name ??
No app. It’s photoshop.
Cafe bobbers?
What program dis
It's After Effects
Yes! You did it!
Yes, I know there's been a wait for it.
Which app??
Photoshop
It looks easy when u do this
Sure does
Which aap??
No app, all in After Effects
That was cool - thank you
Thanks for watching
Nice Job 👌
Thanks
why build a bobber our of a street bike!! just get a cruiser! too much hassle not needed
Of course, a cruiser would be easy, but using the same bike here as I did on the scrambler video shows how you can drastically change the look of the same bike.
Khalid Gamal were is the fun in that
It's al the costs that you might not think of, brakes, electrics, etc, and also to set the geomitry of the frame and engine from scratch would cost loads for a fabricator
Cost saving is using a donor, I know an awesome guy that fabricates his own frames but he would charge a few thousands to make one :(
5K would be an amazing budget to play with.
Some one please suggest me an android app to custom paint my bike
lightroom
lightroom
Where's the battery?
Can put it under the engine.
hey bro that wasnt the aircleaner you removered.It was the oil tank.
You're right the 750 also has the oil tank in that void. If you were going for the 500 you wouldn't need to worry. Cognito do this amazing oil tank that fits neatly in between the frame.
cognitomoto.com/products/bolt-on-cb750-oil-can
where suspemsun .??
There isn’t any. It’s a hard tail bobber
oky ..🖒🖒
good design
Thank you.
next is how to make chopper
Let's get the 2 racers going first ;)
For The Bold - dreegez yea but till that u make a Photoshop video like this bobber and cafe racer👍
Oh yeah, definitely, Will do.
For The Bold - dreegez cool 👍👍👍
streetfighter ? hmmm most of the bike maker copy this concept howsdays , most of the so called street bikes , back in the day NOS was frequently used
Where is suspensions???
There isn’t one on a hard tailed bobber. It’s what makes them ‘hard tail’
awesome...
+suraj jirel thanks
No tail light, blinkers, oil tank, brake fluid or a air filter hahaha.. but still love the video