Yeah that 45 degree laydown like we did it when elsinores where hot in 75 wont function past 45 like you had them .. Nice build showing the thought process of building a bike and the "GOOD BAD & UGLY" of it all ! O Damn dropped some clint on yo Azz lol
Yeah the angle for the rear shocks didnt look functional even at the glimpse of it. I was wondering when you were gonna scrap the idea haha but i love channel subscribed right away. Thank you for awesome vids!
I'm glad you decided that. The geometry of the shock angle was too extreme to function in a useable manner. It's all a learning game . Power to you for playing and showing everyone anything goes when it comes to custom bikes.
Awesome watching a bike get cut apart and put back together great idea putting the bar stock inside the frame to strengthen it a lot of guys don’t do that
Посмотрев этот ролик , начал исправлять свои недочеты в раме мотоцикла Урал ) большое спасибо. Watching this movie , began to correct their shortcomings in a frame of Ural motorcycle ) thank you very much.
I like you videos and enjoy them. You explain the details precisely, so it helps to understand you ideas behind the actions. Very well done! Thank you!
Your builds are top notch! I like how thorough and attention to detail all bikes you have built. All truly one of a kind. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with us. Cheers brother
Hey man, I didn't think that would work. The shock angle was too drastic for the spring. You could keep the look and still have some bounce if you use a leaf spring from like a small boat trailer. Just saying I like the hard tail but I'm like over 50 now and built more for comfort. Thanks for all the videos.
Unfortunately I agree... the location of the shock is terrible... on the Indian Scout the shock is still mid way up the swing arm.. but the Scout is actually a terrible design too! Glad you went hardtail in the end. The shock setup you were planning would've behaved like a hardtail anyway
I was so disappointed at the beginning bc I was hoping for a hardtail....and then... boom!!! Hardtail reveal at the end!! Super stoked to see that video!! 🤟🏻
I was lucky enough to grow up riding bikes with my dad as a kid. Probably slept more miles on a bike than most have ridden their whole life. I love your videos. It's really awesome to show the creative process of design and fabrication and if it's not what you want you scrap it and start over. A lot of people talk shit about what your doing or how your doing it...it's your shit do it how you want to do it. ..kudos to you for building bikes with two wheels and not just a brand...you seem like a cool dude that i would like to hang out with and get my hands dirty.... when it comes to custom your building it for yourself and your vision...I think you have a good eye for awesome bikes...I would ride the shit outta them... keep up the good work...ignore the critical ass hats that try to tear you down...My Hats off to you sir for sharing your experience. My only piece of advice would be to take on bigger challenges...do a complete build...start with a frame and show these people what an artist you truly are...some people paint, some sing songs...you build machines...just awesome...best part is riding what you built.
It was a good concept though. I can see why you scrapped the softtail for the hardtail option. Nice job though, I was liking the original idea. I guess for it to be structurally sound you might have to build a full suspension from scratch. Hardtail is much more structurally sound and alot less work. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.
Very cool idea. It's hard to put in the time then have to abandon the idea. Safety first though. I watched the whole video and was getting very excited to see the result as I have a 82 magna torn down, deciding to keep the shocks or not. I am also trying to find a way to incorporate the springs whilst keeping the slope of the frame to go downward. My thought to fix the hard angle on the shock is to bring the bottom part the shock more forward on the swingarm making the shock more vertical.? Anyways this content is inspirational to me, thank you for sharing. Subscribed!
Yes Mark Blundell. I realized late into the chop that the factory Magna is a finely tuned machine. I can only repay the attributes of the stock Magna by fabbing a one of a kind bobber where the v65 4banger is the only recognizable piece on the canvas. MOTO PILOT has a similar project on his hands but lucky for me I discovered I can mount 2 shocks in the space between the motor and the front of the rear tire. There is enough vertical space but the work comes with fabbing new shock mounts. Mark Blundell, how can you relate to the Magna? MOTO PILOT, would be great to see a similar shock mount idea on the CB650.
Matt Mounting the shocks in the position you noted will increase compression dramatically. I suggest you look into obtaining a shock from a Hnda vlx 600 and mount it to one side of the swing arm. It's a short monoshock and will tuck in neatly also alowing you to angle it in a more extream manner. I've been building bikes for 42 years.
Actually alot of the classic "bobbers" used Harley Hardtail frames from old Knuckleheads and Panheads... so yeah... hardtailed frame is more bobber... chopper is more about the forks and neck of the bike
Tiny Table Wargames The frames were dead stock original, on Harleys as well as british bikes. Don't tell me what a bobber was cuz I was there then and I had one: a '52 Harley panhead with tank shifter, no front fender, solo seat, flat bars and open pipes; THAT was a bobber.
From a subs perspective; I subbed to your channel a year ago because of your Aprilia (Sportbikes). Now you're doing bobbers. No offense to the bobber crowd, but any plans on doing a Sportbike build?
I get it Muscrat. I actually filmed an Aprilia vlog recently that I'm going to release this week. And yes, the next build will be more of a Street Fighter.
The shock set is too decline 😂 it becomes bouncy when youn ride lol Declines shocks are design for bmw r90 .. applying that concept might cause you harder shocks to be installed..
Just curious why the shocks wouldnt work? I love the concept of having the shocks in line with the frame. I was thinking of doing something similiar to this idea on my Vulcan build. As I have a bad back. Was it just to much angle on the shocks to work correctly?
Yeah, the angle of the arm was set to swing for the original suspension. Changing the shocks angle but not the length of the arm meant the suspension wouldnt have been compressing on itself, but to the side. It wouldn't have worked unless he changed everything in the suspension to keep the angle right under load.
@@MOTOPILOT6 up to 6 weeks but could be next week. i ordered through lowbrow for the assembled one. pretty much could only tell me the longest it will take is 6
Your rear shock new angle is totally dysfunctional,not going to work.I hope the rest is better than that or you are in trouble.Sundquist Norton you tube.
Take a look at the Indian Scout Bobber shock angle. You may want to write the engineers of this bike that it's totally dysfunctional. Oops, too late. =-)
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Yeah that 45 degree laydown like we did it when elsinores where hot in 75 wont function past 45 like you had them .. Nice build showing the thought process of building a bike and the "GOOD BAD & UGLY" of it all ! O Damn dropped some clint on yo Azz lol
Yeah i feel that it does look a bit stubby out back !
I have some copper color seat springs ill send you for this build if youd like
@@1000186ful hey Dustin....hit me up at motopilot6@gmail.com
Yeah the angle for the rear shocks didnt look functional even at the glimpse of it. I was wondering when you were gonna scrap the idea haha but i love channel subscribed right away. Thank you for awesome vids!
Its refreshing to see a youtube bike builder with some real fabrication skills, nice work man!
I'm glad you decided that. The geometry of the shock angle was too extreme to function in a useable manner. It's all a learning game . Power to you for playing and showing everyone anything goes when it comes to custom bikes.
Awesome watching a bike get cut apart and put back together great idea putting the bar stock inside the frame to strengthen it a lot of guys don’t do that
Посмотрев этот ролик , начал исправлять свои недочеты в раме мотоцикла Урал ) большое спасибо.
Watching this movie , began to correct their shortcomings in a frame of Ural motorcycle ) thank you very much.
I just love how you can see this stuff in your head and just cut bend and add here and there. I would freak myself out. Awesome man
I like you videos and enjoy them. You explain the details precisely, so it helps to understand you ideas behind the actions. Very well done! Thank you!
Your builds are top notch! I like how thorough and attention to detail all bikes you have built. All truly one of a kind. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with us. Cheers brother
Hey man, I didn't think that would work. The shock angle was too drastic for the spring. You could keep the look and still have some bounce if you use a leaf spring from like a small boat trailer. Just saying I like the hard tail but I'm like over 50 now and built more for comfort. Thanks for all the videos.
Damn Brother. You're on to the next one. You've got mad skills.
Good tools makes the job so much easier!
Unfortunately I agree... the location of the shock is terrible... on the Indian Scout the shock is still mid way up the swing arm.. but the Scout is actually a terrible design too! Glad you went hardtail in the end. The shock setup you were planning would've behaved like a hardtail anyway
His Kidneys will still kick his ass for going hardtail tho :D
I was so disappointed at the beginning bc I was hoping for a hardtail....and then... boom!!! Hardtail reveal at the end!! Super stoked to see that video!! 🤟🏻
freaking awesome idea, i like the way you think, and how everything comes out
I was lucky enough to grow up riding bikes with my dad as a kid. Probably slept more miles on a bike than most have ridden their whole life. I love your videos. It's really awesome to show the creative process of design and fabrication and if it's not what you want you scrap it and start over. A lot of people talk shit about what your doing or how your doing it...it's your shit do it how you want to do it. ..kudos to you for building bikes with two wheels and not just a brand...you seem like a cool dude that i would like to hang out with and get my hands dirty.... when it comes to custom your building it for yourself and your vision...I think you have a good eye for awesome bikes...I would ride the shit outta them... keep up the good work...ignore the critical ass hats that try to tear you down...My Hats off to you sir for sharing your experience. My only piece of advice would be to take on bigger challenges...do a complete build...start with a frame and show these people what an artist you truly are...some people paint, some sing songs...you build machines...just awesome...best part is riding what you built.
I noted off twice the other day riding lol so i pulled over and napped next to my bike
Heck yeah HardTail all the way dude. Thanks for the video!
Cheerz!
I was lookin forward to a nice chopped swing arm build. Id would have been different then every other bobber iv seen at sturgis.
A joy to watch your work !!!
I never owned a bike but the interest has always been there and your bike builds are Awsome.😎
Coming along nicely MP. Keep up the great work
It was a good concept though. I can see why you scrapped the softtail for the hardtail option. Nice job though, I was liking the original idea. I guess for it to be structurally sound you might have to build a full suspension from scratch. Hardtail is much more structurally sound and alot less work. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.
Amazing it was a real step by step 👏🏼
Good call on tossing the shocks!
Very cool idea. It's hard to put in the time then have to abandon the idea. Safety first though. I watched the whole video and was getting very excited to see the result as I have a 82 magna torn down, deciding to keep the shocks or not. I am also trying to find a way to incorporate the springs whilst keeping the slope of the frame to go downward. My thought to fix the hard angle on the shock is to bring the bottom part the shock more forward on the swingarm making the shock more vertical.? Anyways this content is inspirational to me, thank you for sharing. Subscribed!
Sounds interesting. Moving the shock forward would raise your bike I imagine.
Mr. Matt The Magna is a tough bike to chop. But stick with it.
Yes Mark Blundell. I realized late into the chop that the factory Magna is a finely tuned machine. I can only repay the attributes of the stock Magna by fabbing a one of a kind bobber where the v65 4banger is the only recognizable piece on the canvas. MOTO PILOT has a similar project on his hands but lucky for me I discovered I can mount 2 shocks in the space between the motor and the front of the rear tire. There is enough vertical space but the work comes with fabbing new shock mounts. Mark Blundell, how can you relate to the Magna? MOTO PILOT, would be great to see a similar shock mount idea on the CB650.
Vertical space is referring the shock in up/down manner.
Matt Mounting the shocks in the position you noted will increase compression dramatically. I suggest you look into obtaining a shock from a Hnda vlx 600 and mount it to one side of the swing arm.
It's a short monoshock and will tuck in neatly also alowing you to angle it in a more extream manner.
I've been building bikes for 42 years.
The shocks physically will not work in this position so I'd say the hard tail is a must. Good luck with the build...
The Indian Scout says otherwise. But I did go the HardTail route for a cleaner lighter design.
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Such a cool build series!
By definition, if you modify the frame, you have a chopper, not a bobber. A bobber is bobbed, a chopper is chopped, simple no?
Actually alot of the classic "bobbers" used Harley Hardtail frames from old Knuckleheads and Panheads... so yeah... hardtailed frame is more bobber... chopper is more about the forks and neck of the bike
Tiny Table Wargames The frames were dead stock original, on Harleys as well as british bikes. Don't tell me what a bobber was cuz I was there then and I had one: a '52 Harley panhead with tank shifter, no front fender, solo seat, flat bars and open pipes; THAT was a bobber.
@@theeastman9136 Confirm that on British Bikes - that's what I grew up with!
The Velo In The Vale So you guys used to cut frames and make them rigid in those days eh?
Chop chop!! Sclice and dice! Tack it weld it ...make strong! Braaap!
nice build man !!!
was wondering where you got those bars
as always great to see, do you do it alone without a team?
Love the videos...glad I subscribed during your last bobber build...
que perfecta evolución. felicidades! ya quiero hacer lo mismo
Looking good so far. To bad you had to go hard tail. Was the angle on the shocks to much?
Not sure. I'm just not feeling the overall design
Fair enough, can't wait to see where it goes. IMO, it's already developing it's new soul. Love it.
From a subs perspective; I subbed to your channel a year ago because of your Aprilia (Sportbikes). Now you're doing bobbers. No offense to the bobber crowd, but any plans on doing a Sportbike build?
I get it Muscrat. I actually filmed an Aprilia vlog recently that I'm going to release this week. And yes, the next build will be more of a Street Fighter.
Awesome vids and builds,!never mind the haters,RideOn
good job bro .. to inspire beginner modificator
I LOVE your vídeos man!
The shock set is too decline 😂 it becomes bouncy when youn ride lol
Declines shocks are design for bmw r90 .. applying that concept might cause you harder shocks to be installed..
u will support the vertical going rod right that will be taking all the stress ? .. dunno how else to explain it :D
Just curious why the shocks wouldnt work? I love the concept of having the shocks in line with the frame. I was thinking of doing something similiar to this idea on my Vulcan build. As I have a bad back. Was it just to much angle on the shocks to work correctly?
I'm sure there would have been some suspensions action. But I want less bulk and more structural integrity.
@@MOTOPILOT6 makes since. Cant wait to see more progress! Keep up the great work!
Yeah, the angle of the arm was set to swing for the original suspension. Changing the shocks angle but not the length of the arm meant the suspension wouldnt have been compressing on itself, but to the side. It wouldn't have worked unless he changed everything in the suspension to keep the angle right under load.
Dumb question, but what do you use to mock it up graphically? --& while I'm at it, what do you use to film/edit-? Just curious.
I drew the mockup in Illustrator. I edit my video's in Premier Pro CC
Looking good
good job. i did the same thing you did 2 weeks ago and I ordered a voodoo hard tail yesterday lol. where was that tank from again
I'm ordering the same VooDoo hardtail. Tank is from tucker.com in their vtwin catalog
Did they tell you how long it would take to get the hardtail?
@@MOTOPILOT6 thank you hopefully I see the video of you installing yours before i do mine. i over think to much lol
@@MOTOPILOT6 up to 6 weeks but could be next week. i ordered through lowbrow for the assembled one. pretty much could only tell me the longest it will take is 6
@@donbates9610 Ouch.....thats some delay to my build
Nice job man!!!!!!! amazing
You don't use the glove.?
Wait a sec, a bobber with rear shocks?
Frame fucked shocks wont work on that angle
I love when these guys think their so smart and don't know what a bobber is.
i want to comment but im speechless
Oh well looks cool 😎
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5:37 use protection please and take care(использование болгарки без защиты не безопасно, сколько раз я видел как летали отрезные круги...)
Very nice 👌
what if....you used forks...for shocks for the rear.....
All that work and you’re going hardtail now 😭
He made the right choice haha
Burly shocks are cheap....Progressive 430 lower my Harley 3 inches and is a hell of a better shock
Burly slammed shocks are made by progressive.
Eso se lo haces a una moto en españa y el mismo de la ITV de da la mano y te acompaña a que tires al desguace la moto
чувак!9:10 нельзя металл перегревать свыше 400 градусов, свойства меняются, мог использовать трубогиб и загнуть всё по шаблону(без нагрева)...
Rallonger la fourche arrière
I didn't know Steve Vai was into motorcycles
Your rear shock new angle is totally dysfunctional,not going to work.I hope the rest is better than that or you are in trouble.Sundquist Norton you tube.
Take a look at the Indian Scout Bobber shock angle. You may want to write the engineers of this bike that it's totally dysfunctional. Oops, too late. =-)
Flip that grinder over and you won’t eat as many sparks, sparky. Or not idc. And Btw that won’t work.
Is it me but it seems like he has no clue how to use these tools (some one get him a reciprocal saw)
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Fuck your ammendment
@@wombraid3r936 Fuck yourself, degenerate.
If no one had the second ammendment this country would've never became a super power and you would not have had the chance to live such a life you have, even on its worst days life would still be a thousand times better than a life in a country with no second ammendment. Anyone trying to get rid of an ammendment to the constitution is a complete and utterly stupid dunce.