I personally think that Tactical droids were losing so often, because they were often memory-wiped and had only limited amount of experience and non-standard situations that they can include in their calculations. I think Super-Tactical droid was able to keep these data, even after memory-wipe.
I believe there is a point in the lore that stated the T series had an issue with improvisation early on, but as they gained real world experience could become WAY more effective. It was just so rare for these droids to be left alive after a few conflicts that few did
@@sladewilson6584 CIS made a huge mistake decommissioning Droid Control Ships after Naboo. Their role should be changed to a Data Center Ship. Download in real time all tactical and operational data from multiple levels of droids including T-series and ST-series. And send them out via hyperspace transmissions to other ships so they could upload them to tactical droids memory cores. It would exponentially increase their experience levels and allow better analysis of the battlefield.
Considering General Kaylani had the autonomy to assume the shutdown code at the end of the war was a Republic ruse, and thus refuse to obey it, I would say it’s entirely possible the Super Tactical Droids were never wiped and operated at a much higher level.
Seems more likely that much like stormtroopers what we are being told is not the same as what we are shown. The tactical droid is meant to be a threat but because of how the show is structured where the Jedi and clones are meant to be the plucky heroes fighting against the odds the tactical droid must be intellectually inferior to the protagonists. Not that the show is bad because of this it just makes the lore a bit harder to understand because of the dissidence.
Eh, not much of an issue if your army is already built to be disposable and easily replaceable. Half of fallen droids would be back to combat like next day.
Freefall puts a nice pin on this: There's a character who wants to replace the workers with robots as a cost saving measure (as the situation at the station he runs is THAT dire). He's not so willing to go through with it when he's informed an administrative position like his would be easiest to replace (though he admits that this alone wouldn't save the station). The people who want to replace people with machines often end up being the people easiest to replace with machines.
These droids went from 'Roger Roger' to 'Actually, I’ve calculated your entire existence is unnecessary' real quick. Talk about a glow-up... or should I say, a logic-up!
I hope Kalani returns one day. He would make a great asset, and potentially a political figure for droids if he isn't in the role of military commander.
The villain of the SW5E campaign I'm running is a Super Tactical Droid who is trying to enslave all organic life by bringing back the Rakghoul plague. He has gone mad.
The Separatist Alliance is one of my main favorite factions. Especially in Starwars Legends. Tactical and super Tactical droids are OP. It would be awesome if they did a series , or a Trilogy on Kalani, the Separatist super Tactical droid that survived in the clone wars, and past the Rebels
Give Grand Admiral Thrawn a personal squad of ST droids to replace the incompetent officers under him and it would have been game over for the rebels long before the battle of Lothal
@@emberthecatgirl8796 It wasn't without reason though. The STs clearly earned their reputations. But more than that, an "ego" was a useful tool and clearly they developed their own reputations. I wonder how much was ego and more so just accomplishing the job and task assigned to them in the most logically straightforward way tailored through their own experiences. I think Thrawn would find it hard to argue with the results. And unlike other leaders they wouldn't just throw out "noise" as suggestions but rather precise upper level tactical decisions and suggestions.
@@AKUJIVALDO Apparently Star wars main writing technique was to make the heroes won by the failures of their enemies. Which literally contributes NOTHING good for the main cast and only made the bad guys looks so horribly incompetent
Super Tactical Droids are definitely my favorite type of droid out there. Very cool design and I love that they all have cool custom paintjobs and personalities. Hopefully we see Kalani at some point, perhaps after the period of that one Rebel episode... he is technically still functioning doing something out there in the galaxy.
12:29 this Rebels arc with the CIS droid holdout troops was a demonstration of irrational behavior on the part of the Super Tactical Droid. But eventually the Droid came to his senses.
But to be fair, it had been operating for like 16 years without a memory wipe or even regular maintenance. So the fact that it was able to realize the error of its thinking and correct itself proves just how smart these droids are. If the CIS made any more, palpatine and dooku would have probably had an unintentional robot revolution on their hands
I wish they had used the old voice for Kalani in his Rebels appereance. Yes, I know it was still Gregg Berger that voiced him but I wish they had kempt the old voice modulation that was used in TCW.
I wish they used to old voices for the B-1s/OOMs but I digress. If we go for an in-universe explanation, I'd say lack of proper maintenance probably changed his voice.
In Rebels it's been over decade since his first appearance in clone wars and rebels so it makes sense that his voice would sound different considering deteriorating voice modulator.
I've always thought that Tactical droids do better when they have an organic commander with them, they have the computational power but the organic commanders, like Trench or Grievous have more flexibility and instinct, in several cases the organic commanders ignored the advice of their droids. and they did badly, like Trench and Wat Tambor
The tactical droids seem like really good second in commands, but they all seem to have been given an incredibly arrogant personality which naturally makes them hard to work with for organic leaders. That personality I think helps stop tactical droids from working together and creating Star wars skynet. But it also leads to a lot of these arrogant generals really hating their tactical Droid, but they would make a good adjunct.
@@klaykid117Yeah, droids are very good, but preventive measures hold them back too much. Like BX droids being rare only because they were too smart for cis liking (they were not expensive at all, and were much more effective for credit spent).
Separatists droids are really underrated, I love the idea of droid survivors popping up after the war to either do their own thing or join the rebellion. I really hope we get more stories around them!
The idea of droid auxiliary units battling through star destroyers alongside rebel irregulars sounds pretty cool ngl. Ashame that clones by that time would be mostly dead or totally ancient due to accelerated aging. Regardless it would have been way cooler than "cavalry charge on a star destroyer!"
I remember hearing and reading that ST models got smarter longer they are online. Basically, an ST model could become smarter and outperform most CIS organics the majority of the time also I think we have never seen an ST droid ever get destroyed because they were smart enough to retreat and accept defeat.
There was one ST droid who got decapitated by Anakin after pummelling him. Man chose violence against a Jedi and straight up would've won if not for plot armour.
Probably not as good as you might think, remember, droids are uniform, the skill of each one is equal to any other, thats not the case for flesh, especially if you consider that the rebelion fought in exactly the opposite way of the separatists
I love the Super Tactical Droid, and I always imagined them at the helm organizing droid rights. Also ballsy enough to throw hands with Anakin Skywalker.
we need a post clone wars/post empire series about the ts droids who didn't shut down imagine they made a droid rebellion and started up an old factory or two.
I really do hope we see more scenes of the battle of exegol in some future show or movie, showing Kalani’s veteran droids as well as Sidon Ithano’s crew including Kix the clone trooper. We even know Sidon fought in the battle since he showed up to celebrate on Ajan Kloss. These characters among plenty of others who likely showed up that we just didn’t see.
I found your channel not long ago and I think it’s some of the best Star Wars info content that I’ve found. Any chance of a video on the Loronar E-9 Explorer? I found the ship on Wookieepedia but can’t find much other information about it.
@@MetaNerdzLoreThanks so much! I’m attempting to write an Ahsoka focused fanfic immediately after Order 66 where she’s also considered Mandalore and I’m planning on using the E-9 Explorer as her main ship.
I love how intimidating super tactical droids are you do get the feeling that every one of them is an artfully created masterpiece of a Droid not mass-produced. With the regular tactical droids. You can tell that they're a bit more standardized and produced. Also, in my mind, the reason the tactical droids are all so arrogant is to stop them from working together and creating some kind of Droid revolution because each tactical Droid thinks it's Superior to the other ones. Which is probably why they only made a few super tactical droids and they were all handcrafted because if they made too many they absolutely would rebel against the Confederate Parliament.
"But I'm sure they'll do that one day." My friend, you have much more faith in Disney's sinking ship than I do. I can't think of a single franschise that's as big of a guaranteed money maker that has been fumbled as badly as Star Wars. I suppose Amazon is trying their hardest to to earn that dubious title with the Rings of Power and quite possibly 40k in the near future.
Honestly, it was a missed opportunity for Kalani to join the Rebellion. On one hand the logic is sound. It doesnt want tojoin a possible sinking ship. On the other hand it would continue its programming of fighting the republic/empire. Kalani would also be a great asset, but also it is reasonable to assume that it woukd start treating rebel lives as expendable and possible flare uo anti seperatist droid sentiment (which were high among the rebels). Kalani likely at first will not understand the process of the asymettical strategies the Rebels use and be stuck in a learning period, learning asymetrical warfare and doing away with the conventional warfare of the CIS. It would be neat to see, but i can see the problems. Im sure Chopper would've enjoyed a few droid buddies though.
I think the problem is that they're too fast and they're probably wiped of their memories. Kalani was able to win against the rebels, because he had absolute control over the situation. But that's because he's had time to evaluate everything one of his calculations. Even with computers in store wars, there is still so much variables involved, experience is still needed androids, and that is why some of the best are just long living, because even though they can do the things of them that they're supposed to do, they have experience. You can't exactly ensure which way a person will react, you may be able to learn about psychology, but it won't prepare you for everything
How is FFG in creating droid characters? I like to play droids and have been meaning to check FFG out! (Hope the question doesn't feel too out of the left field)
@C03-T3 Not at all! Droids are actually really fun to build in-game, as they start out with a blank canvas in terms of stats. (1 in everything) However, you are granted a far higher amount of starting XP, which allows you to fully flesh out your droid's traits. For example, you can put a ton of XP into Brawn (Strength) and Agility (Dexterity) and play a close-quarters combat oriented droid like a Commando Droid. Or, you can do the flipside and put a ton of points into Cunning and Intellect for something like a T-series. And of course you can balance out the stats to make your character a jack of all trades. To summarise, Droids in FFG are really fun to play, simply due to how customizable they are. I suspect you can even get built-in weapons, too. Apologies if this is somewhat ramble-y, I just woke up! XD
The concept of a super intelligent droid makes me question, would they be susceptible to viruses, or perhaps whatever IG-88 tried to do with a droid uprising?
I think while yes post clone wars many were still active and didn’t obey the shutdown command, by now the empire had to have eliminated a large portion of them. If my memory serves me right then when the stormtroopers encountered the droids they mentioned a protocol meaning that the empire has already had issues with the leftover droids
Yeah, many were reactivated, there was even new CIS holdout on mustafar and many organic commanders quickly realised what was happening and attempted to fight back... only to be erased one by one by all of empire forces.
T series droids seem like they should just kind of keep the battle going while a new organic moves in, but the ST seems like they could cover smaller scale battles entirely alone or even just command a full scale battle (maybe 2 of them)
It is actually confirmed there where several Lucrehelk-class battleships (droid control ships) that participated in the Battle of Exegol (though I can't see any on screen). Now I have a theory that might be a bit of a stretch, but I believe that some battleships were piloted by an ST that refused to shut down. And I bet you ONE is piloted by Kalani. However, this is never confirmed.
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The T-series tactical droid is more suited for logistical support and tasks, if needed for front line the best place for them would be quarter master for fleets/command ships or ordnance support While the ST-tactical droid had great potential if more mass produced for all Confederacy battle fronts, no telling what the confederacy could have achieved if they had more ST droids more wide spread
In my mind the T-Series arrogance is to stop them from working together which the St series didn't have if the CIS wasn't careful and made too many STs they could have actually had a Droid revolution on their hands where the economic factors to Droid production are put aside in favor of pure efficiency
I consider that in a long war the droids would improve their efficiency and a point to emphasize is that as such the droids do not need to sleep or eat technically speaking, although it has always been funny to me that it did not matter who won Palatine wins
I mean I would think One super tactical Droid would have a type of ghost ship in this universe. That a couple of mystery solvers can find pacifically five😊
@B1-997 I was thinking more of a Munificent-class star frigate or a Providence-class carrier/destroyer something that can go toe to toe with lesser imperial ships.Lucrehulk would be noticeable wouldn't but I think people would think and notice too much if going round. Also I thought of a cool name for this ST Tyiorus or Quixote which one you think is better?
It really was a huge missed opportunity not bringing clone wars actors back for the last film. Droids and other aliens should've been included to show the reality that George had always wanted to paint: war is the stupid plot of powerful men to gain more power. Seeing them get back at palpatine for his manipulation and depravity would've been immensely satisfying.
one thing that irritated me about the clone wars series is we never saw a single separatist victory, if they did win they would lose even more the next episode. The CIS was supposed to be winning the war in the end but it just never felt like it, i wish there was just one episode where the threat of a mechanical army felt real and its power came into play.
Clone wars predicted what people think could happen with AI now. Not 1 singular AI improving itself like the usual AI story, but thousands or millions of small AI all pooling their data together over the years, and improving with each generation.
They did so many things wrong with "Rebels". Imagine sacrificing everything that made the clone wars great for both kids and adults just to make it more "family friendly" by giving all the people lego body builds and one of the coldest, most badass tactical droids a human voice.
I never knew that another name for the Separatist was CIS. So when I saw this video I was so confused and thought that it was about droids giving cis existential crisises XD
Even basic tactical droids were quite good on a larger scale. Much like B1 droids, they were mediocre, flawed, but numerous. And they proved to be a force multiplier to existing models, a step above OOM commanders. For every battle the Republic won through tactical brilliance, Confederacy could theoretically overwhelm it in a few others with “good enough” units - there is no way that every Republic commander was a genius, and some could probably be more incompetent than TDs. Now add Super TDs that were even better than that and, well, the odds start to look not that good for the GAR.
14:50 What? You expected him to pop up in TRoS despite having had nothing to do with the sequel trilogy and most people in the movie going audience having never seen TCW or Rebels? Sorry mate, but that's more than a bit of wishful thinking...
The series was set up in a way that the separatist couldn't be compentent which also means they where less intimidating. I think it can even be called the grievous effect cause he became the prime example of a villain that got hyped off screen. But when shown he was a incompetent coward in the Canon show. Same with the whole Separatist army...... In the beginning the Narrative wants to explain them as this big threat. But everytime they appear the good guys need to win.......... And then we as the audience get told again what a big threat they are in the next Arc. A lot of good concepts..... Bad execution
I love how it wasn't even "acceptable casualties" or "a necessary sacrifice", just straight-up "I DON'T CARE."
It's great. But then again organic officers cared even less. So makes sense the Tacs would follow suit.
Well, they are droids...they literally don't care
i think he just HATED his counterpart in that ship
I don't care was my dad's catchphrase when I was growing up
I personally think that Tactical droids were losing so often, because they were often memory-wiped and had only limited amount of experience and non-standard situations that they can include in their calculations. I think Super-Tactical droid was able to keep these data, even after memory-wipe.
I believe there is a point in the lore that stated the T series had an issue with improvisation early on, but as they gained real world experience could become WAY more effective. It was just so rare for these droids to be left alive after a few conflicts that few did
@@sladewilson6584 Well the only droids that don't go crazy eventually are Force touched. So you have to wipe them eventually.
@@sladewilson6584 CIS made a huge mistake decommissioning Droid Control Ships after Naboo. Their role should be changed to a Data Center Ship. Download in real time all tactical and operational data from multiple levels of droids including T-series and ST-series. And send them out via hyperspace transmissions to other ships so they could upload them to tactical droids memory cores. It would exponentially increase their experience levels and allow better analysis of the battlefield.
Considering General Kaylani had the autonomy to assume the shutdown code at the end of the war was a Republic ruse, and thus refuse to obey it, I would say it’s entirely possible the Super Tactical Droids were never wiped and operated at a much higher level.
Seems more likely that much like stormtroopers what we are being told is not the same as what we are shown. The tactical droid is meant to be a threat but because of how the show is structured where the Jedi and clones are meant to be the plucky heroes fighting against the odds the tactical droid must be intellectually inferior to the protagonists. Not that the show is bad because of this it just makes the lore a bit harder to understand because of the dissidence.
you want a machine to lead your troops? be SHOCKED when it treats your troops like numbers in a calculator.
Eh, not much of an issue if your army is already built to be disposable and easily replaceable. Half of fallen droids would be back to combat like next day.
Freefall puts a nice pin on this: There's a character who wants to replace the workers with robots as a cost saving measure (as the situation at the station he runs is THAT dire). He's not so willing to go through with it when he's informed an administrative position like his would be easiest to replace (though he admits that this alone wouldn't save the station).
The people who want to replace people with machines often end up being the people easiest to replace with machines.
10:20 note how the droid raises his arm to shoot BEFORE the king protests. He predicted that action outright.
3:35 the separatists learned from Dooku that a signature look of superiority can be a powerful thing.
Confident people tend to be more successful, they must have programmed this to add an extra factor to victory
I understand that reference
@@giovannirodriguesdasilva646therein lies the problem, that most succesfull people are confident doesnt mean that most confident people are succesfull
@@filipbitala2624 Droids in Star Wars have many emotional issues, programming a smart one must take into account the psychology of emotions
These droids went from 'Roger Roger' to 'Actually, I’ve calculated your entire existence is unnecessary' real quick. Talk about a glow-up... or should I say, a logic-up!
Can he find my dignity?🥺
Different kinds of droids, but yea, seeing the transition from central controlled B1s to supertactical and commando droids is like night and day
Kalani is 100% the most underrated Star Wars clone wars character. He’s just so underused.
I hope Kalani returns one day. He would make a great asset, and potentially a political figure for droids if he isn't in the role of military commander.
If he isn't fighting for the rebellion, I wonder what he is up too.
@@wildcard5616lots of droid rebellions but oddly enough no droid states. I bet he’s keeping a very low profile
I think someone that worked on rebels said he could be a tactical advisor for the hutts
Mando or whatever of the new post-Empire stories needs to have stuff on the droids. We already had one episode in Mando where droids were present
@@pink_kino true it would have been cool if kalani was there too just commanding the b2s instead of the b1 we see
The villain of the SW5E campaign I'm running is a Super Tactical Droid who is trying to enslave all organic life by bringing back the Rakghoul plague.
He has gone mad.
Awesome! Might yoink that idea for something I'm cooking up
Dude, that sounds awesome. Wish I had people I could play with, also time.
That’s cool mainly because it shows that droid is capable of losing its mind
They’re so intelligent that they almost have a conscious kind of
What's SW5E?
@@Ggamer_321 Star Wars 5th Edition, a Star Wars version of D&D 5E.
The Separatist Alliance is one of my main favorite factions. Especially in Starwars Legends.
Tactical and super Tactical droids are OP. It would be awesome if they did a series , or a Trilogy on Kalani, the Separatist super Tactical droid that survived in the clone wars, and past the Rebels
1 day ago? The vid was just uploaded less than a minute ago.
@@ATP2555ify now it says 2 days ago, dude is breaking the laws of time
@@ATP2555ifyhe probably got access to it earlier due to patronite
Give Grand Admiral Thrawn a personal squad of ST droids to replace the incompetent officers under him and it would have been game over for the rebels long before the battle of Lothal
No. Those droids had as big of an ego as the worst imperial commanders…
After their introduction on Monday, Thrawn would loose his shit before Friday.
Then dont field military officers with such an ego. But the ST droids are better on providing calculations compare to the hubris of imperial officers
@@emberthecatgirl8796 It wasn't without reason though.
The STs clearly earned their reputations.
But more than that, an "ego" was a useful tool and clearly they developed their own reputations.
I wonder how much was ego and more so just accomplishing the job and task assigned to them in the most logically straightforward way tailored through their own experiences.
I think Thrawn would find it hard to argue with the results. And unlike other leaders they wouldn't just throw out "noise" as suggestions but rather precise upper level tactical decisions and suggestions.
Why just don't wish removal of Plot armour from "Rebels"? Without it Empire would squash them in no time.
@@AKUJIVALDO Apparently Star wars main writing technique was to make the heroes won by the failures of their enemies. Which literally contributes NOTHING good for the main cast and only made the bad guys looks so horribly incompetent
Super Tactical Droids are definitely my favorite type of droid out there. Very cool design and I love that they all have cool custom paintjobs and personalities. Hopefully we see Kalani at some point, perhaps after the period of that one Rebel episode... he is technically still functioning doing something out there in the galaxy.
12:29 this Rebels arc with the CIS droid holdout troops was a demonstration of irrational behavior on the part of the Super Tactical Droid. But eventually the Droid came to his senses.
But to be fair, it had been operating for like 16 years without a memory wipe or even regular maintenance. So the fact that it was able to realize the error of its thinking and correct itself proves just how smart these droids are. If the CIS made any more, palpatine and dooku would have probably had an unintentional robot revolution on their hands
I wish they had used the old voice for Kalani in his Rebels appereance. Yes, I know it was still Gregg Berger that voiced him but I wish they had kempt the old voice modulation that was used in TCW.
I wish they used to old voices for the B-1s/OOMs but I digress.
If we go for an in-universe explanation, I'd say lack of proper maintenance probably changed his voice.
@mill2712, considering the movie voices, are the primary canon voices I'd say that's a win for the original voices.
In Rebels it's been over decade since his first appearance in clone wars and rebels so it makes sense that his voice would sound different considering deteriorating voice modulator.
TCW: An actual threat.
Rebels: Like any other droid.
It sounded like he was a kid talking into a fan blowing at him 😖😖😖
I've always thought that Tactical droids do better when they have an organic commander with them, they have the computational power but the organic commanders, like Trench or Grievous have more flexibility and instinct, in several cases the organic commanders ignored the advice of their droids. and they did badly, like Trench and Wat Tambor
The tactical droids seem like really good second in commands, but they all seem to have been given an incredibly arrogant personality which naturally makes them hard to work with for organic leaders. That personality I think helps stop tactical droids from working together and creating Star wars skynet. But it also leads to a lot of these arrogant generals really hating their tactical Droid, but they would make a good adjunct.
@@klaykid117Yeah, droids are very good, but preventive measures hold them back too much. Like BX droids being rare only because they were too smart for cis liking (they were not expensive at all, and were much more effective for credit spent).
Separatists droids are really underrated, I love the idea of droid survivors popping up after the war to either do their own thing or join the rebellion. I really hope we get more stories around them!
7:45 Padme just casually taking sparks and bits of metal to her exposed stomach lmao
I love when oneone makes something better and they just add "Super" to the name (Super Star Destroyer, Super Battle Droid, Super Tactical Droid)
Super Saiyan
Mark 2 mark 3 mark 7 mark 11 …… you know what I don’t like math , let’s go super ….and ultra and stuff
Super Earth
Super Fuhrer
@weeblordgaming6062 No no no, the Nazis put "Wonder" in front of everything instead, and that's why they lost the war
The idea of droid auxiliary units battling through star destroyers alongside rebel irregulars sounds pretty cool ngl. Ashame that clones by that time would be mostly dead or totally ancient due to accelerated aging. Regardless it would have been way cooler than "cavalry charge on a star destroyer!"
I remember hearing and reading that ST models got smarter longer they are online. Basically, an ST model could become smarter and outperform most CIS organics the majority of the time also I think we have never seen an ST droid ever get destroyed because they were smart enough to retreat and accept defeat.
There was one ST droid who got decapitated by Anakin after pummelling him. Man chose violence against a Jedi and straight up would've won if not for plot armour.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 CIS really could of won the war.
can you imagine if Kalani actually did join the rebellion, like holy moly that would have been a wicked start.
Probably not as good as you might think, remember, droids are uniform, the skill of each one is equal to any other, thats not the case for flesh, especially if you consider that the rebelion fought in exactly the opposite way of the separatists
@@filipbitala2624A ST Droid would be able to adapt its tactics for guerrilla warfare as much as it was able to combat guerillas.
He's had enough experience dealing with insurgencies to learn enough
I love the Super Tactical Droid, and I always imagined them at the helm organizing droid rights. Also ballsy enough to throw hands with Anakin Skywalker.
After Skelton Crew, we need a deep dive on the lore behind hidden Old Republic Worlds.
we need a post clone wars/post empire series about the ts droids who didn't shut down
imagine they made a droid rebellion and started up an old factory or two.
I really do hope we see more scenes of the battle of exegol in some future show or movie, showing Kalani’s veteran droids as well as Sidon Ithano’s crew including Kix the clone trooper. We even know Sidon fought in the battle since he showed up to celebrate on Ajan Kloss. These characters among plenty of others who likely showed up that we just didn’t see.
I found your channel not long ago and I think it’s some of the best Star Wars info content that I’ve found. Any chance of a video on the Loronar E-9 Explorer? I found the ship on Wookieepedia but can’t find much other information about it.
thanks for the super! I don't knw if I've ever seen it let me look into it
@@MetaNerdzLoreThanks so much! I’m attempting to write an Ahsoka focused fanfic immediately after Order 66 where she’s also considered Mandalore and I’m planning on using the E-9 Explorer as her main ship.
I love how intimidating super tactical droids are you do get the feeling that every one of them is an artfully created masterpiece of a Droid not mass-produced. With the regular tactical droids. You can tell that they're a bit more standardized and produced. Also, in my mind, the reason the tactical droids are all so arrogant is to stop them from working together and creating some kind of Droid revolution because each tactical Droid thinks it's Superior to the other ones. Which is probably why they only made a few super tactical droids and they were all handcrafted because if they made too many they absolutely would rebel against the Confederate Parliament.
It's really nice to see droids and clones teaming up to fight the Empire. I wish we could see it happen more often...
9:58 is when decepticons allied with cylons lol
Love the droid Lore.
Super tactical droids are top Teir
I always wanted a super tactical head as a hyperdrive calculator with audible sass and evil droid comments
"But I'm sure they'll do that one day."
My friend, you have much more faith in Disney's sinking ship than I do. I can't think of a single franschise that's as big of a guaranteed money maker that has been fumbled as badly as Star Wars. I suppose Amazon is trying their hardest to to earn that dubious title with the Rings of Power and quite possibly 40k in the near future.
Honestly, it was a missed opportunity for Kalani to join the Rebellion. On one hand the logic is sound. It doesnt want tojoin a possible sinking ship. On the other hand it would continue its programming of fighting the republic/empire. Kalani would also be a great asset, but also it is reasonable to assume that it woukd start treating rebel lives as expendable and possible flare uo anti seperatist droid sentiment (which were high among the rebels). Kalani likely at first will not understand the process of the asymettical strategies the Rebels use and be stuck in a learning period, learning asymetrical warfare and doing away with the conventional warfare of the CIS. It would be neat to see, but i can see the problems. Im sure Chopper would've enjoyed a few droid buddies though.
I think the problem is that they're too fast and they're probably wiped of their memories.
Kalani was able to win against the rebels, because he had absolute control over the situation. But that's because he's had time to evaluate everything one of his calculations.
Even with computers in store wars, there is still so much variables involved, experience is still needed androids, and that is why some of the best are just long living, because even though they can do the things of them that they're supposed to do, they have experience. You can't exactly ensure which way a person will react, you may be able to learn about psychology, but it won't prepare you for everything
You are only talking about what you've seen in the show but what isn't shown is the countless wins the cis had, they were on the verge of winning
Also your IRL examples were perfect choices in this video!
This robot is so cool I’m gonna make a character out of it. Also great video
General Kalani was super based
Love these droids
Super dope good job👍
9:57 Hearing him say "to the east" he sounds just like legate lanius from Fallout New Vegas
this just solidifies how grate the clone wars series was with its writing
I love Tactical and Super Tactical Droids. I even play an ST Droid in Stars Wars FFG! Such a neat character.
How is FFG in creating droid characters? I like to play droids and have been meaning to check FFG out! (Hope the question doesn't feel too out of the left field)
@C03-T3 Not at all! Droids are actually really fun to build in-game, as they start out with a blank canvas in terms of stats. (1 in everything) However, you are granted a far higher amount of starting XP, which allows you to fully flesh out your droid's traits. For example, you can put a ton of XP into Brawn (Strength) and Agility (Dexterity) and play a close-quarters combat oriented droid like a Commando Droid. Or, you can do the flipside and put a ton of points into Cunning and Intellect for something like a T-series. And of course you can balance out the stats to make your character a jack of all trades. To summarise, Droids in FFG are really fun to play, simply due to how customizable they are. I suspect you can even get built-in weapons, too.
Apologies if this is somewhat ramble-y, I just woke up! XD
@@TheKnifeRaven Thanks for the response! Looks very flexible!
The concept of a super intelligent droid makes me question, would they be susceptible to viruses, or perhaps whatever IG-88 tried to do with a droid uprising?
May the force be with you forever
i love the ST driods, probably my favorie droid type in all of SWs.
I think while yes post clone wars many were still active and didn’t obey the shutdown command, by now the empire had to have eliminated a large portion of them. If my memory serves me right then when the stormtroopers encountered the droids they mentioned a protocol meaning that the empire has already had issues with the leftover droids
Yeah, many were reactivated, there was even new CIS holdout on mustafar and many organic commanders quickly realised what was happening and attempted to fight back... only to be erased one by one by all of empire forces.
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T series droids seem like they should just kind of keep the battle going while a new organic moves in, but the ST seems like they could cover smaller scale battles entirely alone or even just command a full scale battle (maybe 2 of them)
The T series tactical droid looks super cool
2:56 first T-series
3:24 two T-series
3:30 and T-series
3:32 other (S)T-series
3:34 including T-series
3:39 boxy T-series
Last I heard, the crew behind “Rebels” said Kiloni went to Hutt space. Maybe he’ll pop up in the Mando verse.
4:09 Ah, yes the ever famous WW2 Leopard 2a7.
I do hope we get to see Kelani again in the future
The STs didn't have "general abandonment issues"
Cool video
Kalani joining the rebel alliance wouldve been fire
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LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!
It is actually confirmed there where several Lucrehelk-class battleships (droid control ships) that participated in the Battle of Exegol (though I can't see any on screen). Now I have a theory that might be a bit of a stretch, but I believe that some battleships were piloted by an ST that refused to shut down. And I bet you ONE is piloted by Kalani.
However, this is never confirmed.
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I checked Geeky Grotto and I'm thoroughly disappointed in the lack of Star Wars mocs they have. Just mostly blasters for minifigs.
How do we make this droid extra super tactical? An extra eye
The T-series tactical droid is more suited for logistical support and tasks, if needed for front line the best place for them would be quarter master for fleets/command ships or ordnance support
While the ST-tactical droid had great potential if more mass produced for all Confederacy battle fronts, no telling what the confederacy could have achieved if they had more ST droids more wide spread
In my mind the T-Series arrogance is to stop them from working together which the St series didn't have if the CIS wasn't careful and made too many STs they could have actually had a Droid revolution on their hands where the economic factors to Droid production are put aside in favor of pure efficiency
If only the leader of the CIS wasn't quietly making sure they never got too overpowered...
did you use stellaris portraits for the thumbnail its super cute
Wish one of them a serpartist version of Thrawn
I consider that in a long war the droids would improve their efficiency and a point to emphasize is that as such the droids do not need to sleep or eat technically speaking, although it has always been funny to me that it did not matter who won Palatine wins
Idk what you say oom-9 (B1 commander in charge of Naboo invasion) is still the GOAT
Sad we didnt got a ST in LEGO form
Imagine being some wealthy seperatist star system owner and having an army of super tactical droids and droidekas, instead of b1 and t.
What game are you playing in the background
Which episode of clone wars was the first clip from ? or is it from bad batch ?
It's from The Clone Wars around season 5
I mean I would think One super tactical Droid would have a type of ghost ship in this universe. That a couple of mystery solvers can find pacifically five😊
Like a Lucrehulk travelling about with a ST droid at the helm.
@B1-997 I was thinking more of a Munificent-class star frigate or a Providence-class carrier/destroyer something that can go toe to toe with lesser imperial ships.Lucrehulk would be noticeable wouldn't but I think people would think and notice too much if going round. Also I thought of a cool name for this ST Tyiorus or Quixote which one you think is better?
It really was a huge missed opportunity not bringing clone wars actors back for the last film. Droids and other aliens should've been included to show the reality that George had always wanted to paint: war is the stupid plot of powerful men to gain more power. Seeing them get back at palpatine for his manipulation and depravity would've been immensely satisfying.
one thing that irritated me about the clone wars series is we never saw a single separatist victory, if they did win they would lose even more the next episode. The CIS was supposed to be winning the war in the end but it just never felt like it, i wish there was just one episode where the threat of a mechanical army felt real and its power came into play.
Technically we did with the destruction of the Nightsister coven but that was not a CIS vs Republic battle.
The scariest ST droids are the ones you’ve never heard of.
We could get a droid series about kalony
What were the CIS thinking producing B1s at 1,800 credits when a B2 cost 3K. Absolute waste of money on the B1s.
I guess it depends on how fast each was created.
How many B1s can you get to the front in 1 month compared to B2s?
any one else think that kalani is the best?
Kalani calculated that the CIS would win the war...
Even if that was true. Sidious will never allow it to happen...
Kalani should have come back in the mandalorian or even Ahsoka
Clone wars predicted what people think could happen with AI now. Not 1 singular AI improving itself like the usual AI story, but thousands or millions of small AI all pooling their data together over the years, and improving with each generation.
They did so many things wrong with "Rebels". Imagine sacrificing everything that made the clone wars great for both kids and adults just to make it more "family friendly" by giving all the people lego body builds and one of the coldest, most badass tactical droids a human voice.
10:01 Cylon reference
Best tactical droid is the one that decided to throw hands with Anakin Skywalker as the best way to deal with him. And actually get a few hits in.
Part of me eonders, if in the aeason 2 of ashoka, if kalani will show up?
What is the game you are playing in the background?
It's called Star Wars Empire at War. But he's playing it with a mod tho.
Wait, what do you mean the CIS were _winning?_ I never heard that conclusion reached by any other channels going over the Clone Wars.
The biggest problem with Star Wars is that by then they would only have droids fighting wars and those droids are intelligent enough to
There is an old saying in Star Trek.
Superior ability, breeds superior ambition
I never knew that another name for the Separatist was CIS. So when I saw this video I was so confused and thought that it was about droids giving cis existential crisises XD
I think Stars Wars underplayed the droids capabilities because the reality is fictional super robots would destroy their enemies one way or another.
Even basic tactical droids were quite good on a larger scale. Much like B1 droids, they were mediocre, flawed, but numerous. And they proved to be a force multiplier to existing models, a step above OOM commanders. For every battle the Republic won through tactical brilliance, Confederacy could theoretically overwhelm it in a few others with “good enough” units - there is no way that every Republic commander was a genius, and some could probably be more incompetent than TDs.
Now add Super TDs that were even better than that and, well, the odds start to look not that good for the GAR.
If not for palpatine interfering separatists would've won
His influence is literally the only reason republic even had an army. Without him, even singular of CIS fractions could do it, much less all at once.
Finally more data for me to use for my character
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I would not say that the seps were winning the clone wars at this point.
Damn dude regular battle droids are pretty cheap
why even put tactical droids on a ship why not just link 3 of them together in a big tactical computer?
8 grand for a smarty pants
RAD!
14:50 What? You expected him to pop up in TRoS despite having had nothing to do with the sequel trilogy and most people in the movie going audience having never seen TCW or Rebels? Sorry mate, but that's more than a bit of wishful thinking...
The series was set up in a way that the separatist couldn't be compentent which also means they where less intimidating. I think it can even be called the grievous effect cause he became the prime example of a villain that got hyped off screen. But when shown he was a incompetent coward in the Canon show.
Same with the whole Separatist army...... In the beginning the Narrative wants to explain them as this big threat. But everytime they appear the good guys need to win.......... And then we as the audience get told again what a big threat they are in the next Arc.
A lot of good concepts..... Bad execution