don’t forget about the fact that it’s a supposedly unfindable planet, AND ALL THE THOUSANDS OF SHIPS ARE FULLY FILLED WITH CREW MEMBERS to all the people that liked: i’ve never had so many people to speak my opinion to, so here is a list of things that could have improved the battle: 1. Palpatine lifted all the ships and then they needed navigation to orientate themselves 2. the star destroyers were patched up old ones that had previously been from galactic empire and there were only a couple hundred rather than thousands 3. the planetary destroying weapon had only one shot per ship and was charged from another kyber crystal (what powers lightsabers and the original death star) then they had to recharge 4. if the support from people around the universe was actually them paying large names to bring as many mercenaries as possible, exhausting the resistance money in the final battle 5. their transport ships wouldn’t have made it to the command star destroyers control point without being destroyed so they deployed the horses so they wouldn’t be jammed and their ships could land 6. finn knew the command star destroyed because he was originally a storm trooper and it was standard protocol (I stole this so sorry to whoever came up with this) 7. rey dies (nobody likes her)
This. Also imagine how much food and additinal support personell such a large fleet would require. So you need huge constant transports with materials/food, something that isnt easily hidden.
@@firestarter000001 Plus, for some reason, all the star destroyers are submerged in water, under the ice, which would make resupply that much harder. But you know, when on an unfindable planet, you NEED to be ready for that surprise reveal...
Also I have one last addition to top it all off which you forgot… The Star destroyers need a navigation field to help them get out. Earlier in the film the Sith casually send one Star Destroyer with ease to destroy Kijimi
Yeah the navigation signal thing made literally no sense, like what are they navigating through? The freaking clouds? Like point up and fly, it reminds me of the scene in the first Avengers movie when Nick Fury orders the helicarrier to be moved over water and the tech responds saying navigation is down and he asks where the sun is? Like this situation is so much more absurd because you know gravity and all pulling you down so just fly the freaking opposite direction. It just makes no sense that those ships couldn't leave the planet without some sort of navigation signal.
@@Deltasquadformingup they still have sensors they can still detect other ships. The ships already came up out of the ice, just keep going up in the same direction keeping the same distance between ships. They literally just need to go up. There are a lot of dumb things in the sequel trilogy but a ship not being able to leave the atmosphere of the planet because it needs a navigation signal has got to be the dumbest. Also people leaving a building is a bad analogy. A better one would be lines of people standing in a field. Their objective is in front of them, they just need to walk forward to reach their objective. The star destroyers were already in a formation, they just needed to keep going in the direction they had already been going in!
Skip the ChatGPT and I could write my own trilogy that actually pays respect to Star Wars..... don't think I'd get it done quickly, but at least it's quality would reflect the time spent.
@@notmyrealhandle I agree it had potential, but I wouldn't call it good either. But then again, the prequels showed me that a trilogy can be more than the sum of its parts.
It WAS a surprise back then. Avengers Endgame came out the same year (2019), and around that time, MCU was on the top in everything, where SW fell apart. When SW7 came out in 2015, Disney already managed to handle a franchise with a strong hand, connect everything with everything, and build movies upon previous movies without much of a problem. I expected the same here.
7:28 On the space horse thing: It DOES make much less sense when one considers that they can simply assault the ship with fighters. Why use a ground invasion when you have arial units, which have been shown to be capable of taking down these Star Destroyers?
@@_dark.sider_ the Resurgent-Class was a powerhouse, hell, 2 of those things could go toe to toe with a Super-Star Destroyer such as the Executor or the Ravager. I highly doubt the resistance or the "Galaxy Fleet" (such a dumb name), could actually bombard that thing. That ship, which was also the command ship for Kylo Wren, was more heavily armed and armored than a regular Resurgent. So it kind of makes more sense for a foot-invasion.
@@geezersage751it can be argued that it might have been necessary to assault on foot i suppose even though it was a fragile antenna without shielding right? But besides that, they decide to do a cavalry charge... They transported these animals how many lightyears in the foresight that they would need them to run up the length of a ship. It's just seems so ridiculous. These movies have zero redeeming qualities I swear.
Am I missing something about jamming speeders being a thing? I distinctly remember that being part of the criticism of the space horses that the whole jamming speeders thing came out of nowhere.
Can we talk about how this movie takes place in the course of 16 HOURS!! Hyperspace rules and Star Wars lore be damned, everything is thrown out the window for this movie. Hyperspace just casually becomes teleportation when we’ve been clearly shown time and time again that it’s not. They travel literally the entire galaxy in a big circle finding MacGuffins that ultimately lead nowhere. They tease the deaths of all the beloved characters multiple times only to just bring them back. And they introduce hyperspace skipping. If you thought hyperspace tracking didn’t make sense in the Last Jedi, that looks completely reasonable compared to shoving a hyperspace tracker and hyperdrive in a TIE fighter and having them skip across the entire galaxy. God I hate this movie so much. Star Wars just isn’t fun anymore after this movie came out because the galaxy and the lore is now just fundamentally broken.
I pretend like they never happened,in addition to literally everything else Disney produced. Rouge one was the only thing that was half decent, and it wasn't really a story that needed an entire movie for but I digress.
The dumbest thing of the battle is that the star destroyers used ONLY ion cannons without activating any other offensive systems. Also i understand that most of the fleet needed the signal to coordinate the exit from atmosphere but the star destroyers on top of the formation could just go up without problem and activate their shields. Instead they stayed still even after the battle was obviously lost and got obliterated by the resistance
Come to think of it, the resistance could've just targeted the ships on the top of the formation, take them out, let the wreckages fall on to the ships below and trigger a chain reaction of giant debris rain.
Bro i hate how the sequels could've been really good if they were written better, the effects would've looked really cool and if they had a good story to go with it, id watch them all the time
It's like that with everything and it's really sad. It's just like Obi Wan, Boba Fett, Mando season III the list goes on and on for Disney content. If you put a couple of Star Wars fans in a room they could've made something awesome and much better. Put me and my friends in a room and we could've wrote awesome sequels, but no instead we get Hollywood writers making good money who went to school for this, making garbage. It makes no sense.
@firingallcylinders2949 ikr, one day I was sitting down and I was bored so I spent all day thinking what they could've done to force awakens and I had so much fun thinking about watching it and then I remembered, oh yeah it sucks :(
in the old republic, the empire built their fleet over several centuries and the grand moff who gave the order didnt live to see even a fraction of it completed. how the hell did sidious build not just an entire fleet, but an entire fleet of star destroyers with the capability of destroying planets? this makes zero sense!
Tbf, they probably weren’t all the way destroyed when he found them. Yes, I know to find an entire fleet of star destroyers intact enough to repair and rearm is slim, but still. It’s just an idea
according to Disney the answer is "somehow", and if that doesn't satisfy, you're clearly a racist. 😂😂😂. I want Lucas to take back his story and make his Sequel trilogy, but it's getting late..
Bigger problem. How did he build 100 Star Destroyers on a single planet made of entirely of ice? Where did the titanium come from? What did those thousands of followers eat?
6:42 Why didn’t the Final Order just rotate the ship to knock of the Resistance? A few people might lose their balance and equipment may fall but that isn’t a very high cost compared to losing the ship that guides the others.
He was SUPPOSED to be. But it wasn't really confirmed. Especially in the movie, anyone can say anyone in the movie is Force sensitive but if the characters in the movie don't at least confirm to a certain degree.
@JustAGuy4U ...... huh? In a Lego movie? Lmao. Bro is that where your getting your info from? That's crazy. Remember the Lego movie that was about Rex saying that he thought Obi-Wan liked Ventress cause he was chasing her around all the time? Did that mean that he actually thought that? Bro it's a Lego movie. It's not meant to be serious or taken seriously either. So that's not even a good valid argument there.
I am a jedi , you are a jedi , everybodys a jedi. And with Ahsoka tv serie, it seems that if you realy really try, if you clench your buttocks hard enough, anybody can become force sensitive and a jedi...Jesus.
And even that was awful. The entire concept of those slow lumbering bombers existing at all is just stupid in a galaxy where a couple Y-wings with some proton torpedoes can take out an entire Star destroyer. Bombers are arguably already obsolete in our world and are rapidly being replaced by multirole fighter jets that can do everything old bombers like the B-52 and Tu-95 can do but way better. Why not just use a K-wing? It looks way cooler, is armed to the teeth with all sorts of bombs and ordinances, and it actually functions like we’ve been shown how bombers work in the Star Wars universe.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Strategic bombers are not obsolete. They are long range missile trucks today. Multirole fighter cannot fly halfway around the world (they can only fly a few hundred miles without airborne refueling and even with refueling pilots can only be in tiny fighter cockpits so long). B-52s are heavily used but they no longer do carpet bombing but rather stand off hundreds of miles or even 1,000 miles to fire missiles or they drop smart bombs on people like terrorists. Large planes benefit from the cube-square law. They can carry a lot more fuel, backup pilots (plus toilets and even bunks), and payload a lot more efficiently than smaller planes. Strat bombers make sense for larger powers that want world-wide power projection. The US is not going to fuel up F-15s in Kansas and bomb some place say in the Stans nor can the US get naval planes from say the Red Sea there. However, B-52s or other strat bombers can hit targets with lots of stuff in under 24 hours... ANYWHERE on earth. Cruise missiles only have a range of 1,000 to maybe 2,000 miles so those can't get there either. I did the math on the bombing run in The Last Jedi and the bombers were moving slower than my Ford Mustang is capable of moving. Rian Johnson was going for the WWII bomber look and speed but didn't realize those bombers were ~10,000 feet above the ground and stuff on the ground below the bombers spanned tens of km. The dreadnaught in the movie was maybe 500 feet below and maybe 10 km at most. I used all the official specs and got a speed of 125 miles per hour for the bombers in the movie. These are space bombers and stuff in space has to move >10,000 miles per hour to orbit a typical planet somewhere close to earth's size and mass. 125 mph is half the speed of typical WWII bombers. Rian doesn't understand that those WWII bombers looked like they were moving slow because of how high they were.
@@welcometothedesert8034 Nope. Bombs drop due to gravity. There’s no gravity. Since you have to launch the bomb for it to go anywhere, you might as well just have a single launcher (or two if you want) to send the projectile forward, downwards, backwards, or two the sides. Why force the craft to get over the target when you don’t have to?
Good video but I dont think you addressed the fact that all of those star destroyers had to be manned and crewed for years to be operational. That means it wasnt just Sidious there but also like thousands of storm troopers and workers that were just chilling on Exegol for years just to all get destroyed by the plot. The entire movie is just complete and utter nonsense with so many plot holes and rules just thrown out the window.
You can easily make the battle more sensical (barely) by having the ships be Imperial-1’s instead of a new Xyston-class. For examples: “Where did Palpatine get an entire fleet?” They were mothballed Imperial-1’s from the early era of the Empire that were stashed away in case they needed a reserve fleet. “Why do they explode when the superlaser is destroyed?” Because Imperial-1’s were never meant to accommodate a superlaser, which required them to be directly wired to the core. Thus, when the superlaser is destroyed, it takes the entire ship with it. “Why don’t the star destroyers have shields up?” Again, because they weren’t meant to equip them, the superlasers were a massive drain on the star destroyers’ outdated cores. Essentially, they’re using the majority of their power just to stay in the air until they reach space. “Why can’t they take off through the rebel fleet?” Considering how outdated the Imperial-1’s are, the navigation systems couldn’t tell the difference between the fleet and a small planetoid. The ships’ safety measures wouldn’t allow them to jump through what it thought was a celestial body, thus forcing them to fight through the fleet.
You obviously put more thought into that than Disney ever did. Still wondering where the crews for these ships came from and what they are hiding out under the ice for years and years…
Also the death star obliterated a planet. These new weapons looked slightly more like they punched into the core and the planet cracked open due to planetary forces. Think new star trek without the red black hole fluid It just would have taken more time for it to happen. It would have explained wh much less energy was needed and they could have shown people fleeing the planet only to be shot by tie fighers or caught in the forces ripping thnplannet apart
Yeah this made zero sense, like the pilots couldn't manually direct the ship up into space? This made even less sense than the ships in the last Jedi stopping in space because they ran out of gas, like that's not how space works!
@@PrescottPerspective If two ships accelerate at a similar rate and then one of them runs out of fuel (or reaction mass), it "stops" relative to the other one.
@ it's in space! objects in motion stay in motion. Running out of fuel wouldn't cause a space ship to slow down, if anything you wouldn't be able to slow down because you would have no fuel to slow down with. They're I. The vacuum of space. In the movie they show the ships running out of fuel just sort of listlessly rolling over as if they lost all directional control and then the first order catches up and destroys them. In reality if the ship ran out of fuel it would just keep flying along at the speed it was going when it ran out of fuel. This is why the whole premise of the movies key problem makes zero sense because it defies basic laws of physics. Sure there's suspension of belief but that only goes so far. They might as well ask us to pretend gravity doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe. Also why didn't the first order just split their forces and have half jump to light speed and return at the rebels from the opposite direction? Honestly there's no explaining away this massive plot hole in the last Jedi without completely ignoring how objects move in space. Sure Star Wars has always played fast and loose with how space battles work but this was a bit too much to expect an audience to go along with.
6:20 This is because Finn was supposed to be revealed to be force sensitive in this movie. But JJ Abrams forgot about that tidbit, and it went to the wayside. During the part with the sandworm when Finn told Rey "I have to tell you something," but he never said it, everyone thought he was going to tell Rey he liked her. But he was going to tell Rey he's force sensitive. JJ forgot to address that again later in the movie.
Using space horses on top of the Star Destroyer was also genuinely stupid because the SD could have just tilted even just a little for the resistance's whole plan to f**k up.
5:35 As far as I know, it was later confirmed that Finn was sligly force sensitive, this is what he was trying to tell Rey, but I can't understand why it wasn't revaled in the movie.
They didn’t reveal it because Disney wanted another billion dollars in 2019 as fast as possible even with all the money they made from Endgame and Infinity War the year prior
@@natsusatsujinki8342 Kylo lost to a completely untrained girl. Thinking that there is any kind of logic or real thought in the sequel trilogy is assuming too much.
The part with the horses was still dumb. They were riding horses......on the side of a spaceship......in space.......with no masks. What were they breathing?
I totally agree, the whole Disney Star Wars trilogy sequel was so poorly executed and planned it's mind-boggling. You would imagine a multi-billion dollar venture like this would have some basic planning and good idea of storytelling, but Disney fumbled this so hard. It's a textbook example of how NOT to do things 😆
Where the hell did they get the man power to power all those ships like I am pretty sure one star destroyer requires like at least a 1000 people to use it. No way the entire first order came in like freaking 1 and a half day bro.
I’ll even give you another unbelievable fact. In the Vader comics Vader finds exegol. It’s all being powered by a giant kyber crystal that Palps is beating up over and over to make it bleed. Can’t make it up!
One of the dumbest scenes in this movie is also when Poe asks Lando , “ how did you do it?” And Lando gives a cheap lame rah rah rah us statement that fits right in with the participation trophy generations. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
From the rebels perspective, Palpatine didnt "Somehow return" that is the writers perspective.. "Somehow palpatine survived" would be the rebels perspective. They didny watch him die, so their obvious conclusion would have been "I guess he didnt die when they thought they killed him" How observant of them! To just immediately realize thid was a clone!
I watched the sequels in the theaters and never touched them again. I won't even watch scenes on TH-cam. I've watched Revenge of the Sith and Empire again before watching the sequels. I honestly just treat them as non canon at this point.
2:54 another thing that was really cringe to me in Disney SW is how they are trying to make 5“1 women as intimidating military villains just look at her Stewie as Darth Vader is more intimidating than this walking inch😭
4:30 This is pretty much exactly why I loved the movie when first watching it, but then the older I got the more I started to realize how little sense it made and how stupid the whole thing is. I usually just try to pretend the sequels don't exist and are just Disney unofficial non canon what if stories or just Chinese knockoff "Space Wars" or something with an unusually high budget.
The Rise Of Skywalker is one of those movies where you can think about anything and realise it sucks. Never gace a thaugth about execol and I now agree this is one of the worst things in the movie.
Also, where did all the crews for these star destroyers come from? Like were they all just chillin under the ice for years or did they somehow round up a bunch of crew and send them, but then how would they have gotten on board if the ships are all under the ice? PLOT HOLES after PLOT HOLES.
If I'm not wrong back in the darth vader comic series it's revealed that palpatine was building these star destroyers way before , during episode v and vi (where the comic takes place), at least they told us that they actually took decades to build. (BTW I'm not defending this scene, it still fucking sucks)
Fully Agreed… well, except the animals running on the ship… so the carrier that brought all the animals was an arc? Carrying tons of water and haylofts full of hay? And what about the fecal matter!?
7:18 I strongly disagree. Like most of the trilogy, it looks good but makes little sense. A simple turn of a few degrees and the heroes and animals go falling off the right side, within seconds. No need for troops and a battle. No different than if an asshole jumps on the hood of your car while you're driving. Are you going to keep driving and send your friend out to fight him on the hood, or will you simply hit the breaks and send that asshole flying?
1:59 Post-Holdo maneuver, wouldn't it be possible to inflict that level of destruction just by attaching hyperdrives and droid brains to a bunch of asteroids and hurling them at planets?
Exactly, that gem of an idea made the whole galactic warfare and shipbuilding pointless and silly. Basicly everything could be destroyed by some sort of hyperdrives missiles, so any bigger ship was pointless.
My biggest issue with this is the fact Palpatine lifted about 1000 star destroyers. Being extremely generous those are about 150,000 pounds each. To lift all of that Palps basically had the power of a god. He could rip planets from orbit with a small thought.
Did the movie specifically say he lifted them with his own power? Or did he just give an order and all the ships raised up themselves? Also, it would be hilarious if he actually did do it himself. Because then being defeated by Rey deflecting some force lightning is even more idiotic.
@@firingallcylinders2949 the international space station is only 900,000 pounds. Which is incredibly generous for Star destroyers, but to actually lift about 1000 of these, just at the weight of the international space station. Would be about 900,000,000 pounds. To lift this without fatigue, struggle, or even making a sound of a struggle. Gives Palps the power of a god. With just this strength he could rip planets out of orbit with just the thought of it. Now saying the star destroyers more accurate weight being 900,000 tons, Palps would be 2,000 times stronger. He would be ripping planet clusters out of their orbit, and not show fatigue. While this sounds like hyperbole, I’d say the planet clusters would be quite difficult to do. Maybe even hurting Palps.
I read that Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams felt it would be necessary to put Luke Skywalker on the back burner to prevent him from over shadowing the new characters in the new trilogy........that should have been a major red flag within itself for them.
The funny thing is that a lot of this thing with the planet destorying weapons could have EASILY been handwaved by saying "they're weapons from the old republic era". In one line of dialogue, they'd re-canonise the old republic era, thousands of years before the movies are set, and a lot of peoples favourite part of starwars AND, because tech was generally more advanced back then, it'd easily just handwave literally ALL OF IT, even where the ships came from! They could have been ships from the sith empire!
You didn't mention how they got all the staffing for the star destroyers. They're all just fully staffed hiding under the dirt? The whole movie just seems like JJ Abrams watched 210-year-olds playing in the sandbox and took notes.
9:36 one theory I have is that Zorri Bliss helped with communicating the Resistance needed help by bringing up the Battle of Crait as that’s what Poe talked to her about earlier in the film
Jedwerd, the funny thing about all of this is that the one scene you picked to be descent is actually horrible. That’s how bad this movie is. Let me explain why. Imagine you are a first order soldier and you see horses riding on the outside of your ship. What is the first thing you think to do? FLIP THE SHIP! Try spinning, that’s a good trick. They are not in space so there is gravity. Good video though.
If they flip the ship than the thousands of people and all the equipment goes flying too, which is why big destroyers never willingly flip over in all of Star Wars
@@Jedwerd Fair point, but I feel like they can lock gravity inside of the ship right? Its also probably worth it sacrificing a bit to get rid of the only force that can take your down
@@Jedwerd I think for travelling in space either you got artifical gravity invented, and your ship can flip however it likes, as seems the case in Star Wars in every movie to date, or everybody is in zero -g floating, like current era cosmonauts.
What’s worse is that these are not “Normal old Star Destroyers”. It’s worse because these are supposedly brand new Star Destroyer models and they are just “Rogue One” CGI models that have been scaled up digitally in size.
I like Disney owning Star Wars, but the movies they have made are absolutely terrible. The only thing I like about Disney owning Star Wars is having it as Disney world and Disney Land. That I will say is pretty cool. I’m upset what they did to Luke and how they made Rey a Marry Sue.
“Blast proof” is comparable to “bulletproof”, a type of armor or general defense rating to give at least some idea that it is resistant to (x) amount/kind of damage.
all those forces showing up at the end would make sense if on Pasana Lando would tell the group that he has been going around the galaxy trying to rail people up to fight First Order for the past year, instead they just shows up out of nowhere,
the uh "ship fleet" lando brings is kinda real bogus, like, they made the emperors fleet overpowered and didnt know how to make the good guys win, so they were like "random bullshit million ships go!"
5:48 I’m pretty sure it is stated in the movie that the first order troopers where all force sensitive. It is even more dumb but that’s why he feels ot
Two MAJOR points that make this stupid. 1. The charge and fight on the star destroyer. They are high in the sky, thousands of feet. Sorry, you arent fighting and running around in that thin air. 2. Even if everyone in the galaxy instantly decides to help. Were they all sitting in a system close by waiting? It would take days or even weeks to mobilise a force a fraction of that size... Ergh, so dumb.
7:09 The animal or lets be real SPACE HORSIE🎠use by the resistance was still a terrible idea. And here's why. If you're on a steed like that it makes you a much bigger target. So if the first order weren't a bunch of morons like everyone in the movie, then they would have rotated the guns on their own ship, opened fire and wiped out every single good guy on a space horse. One of the shots we see in the movie of them on the star destroyer has the guns pointing sideways at a vertical angle. The guns don't have some sort of minimum rotation built in, meaning they can't point right at an enemy, like some real life artillery. But ok, lets say the cannons on the star destroyer couldn't fire, because the guns in the front of the ship are blocking the guns on the back. Here's another solution I didn't come up with my self. Credit goes to this one person I forgot the name of in a vid where they were ranting about the rise of Skywalker. Their solution was great, TILT THE SHIP. Yes, it is that simple. None of the resistance had brought any magnetic boots, and it wasn't like their fancy space horses had any magnetic horse shoes. If the first order tilted their own ship every single resistance member and their steeds would have fallen off the star destroyer and plummeted onto the planet below. And if any of them did survive because of quick thinking, grapple hooks or plot armor in the case of Finn, then the first order could deploy every single red storm trooper to wipe them out, just like they did in the actual movie. Also, if they saw the resistance ships slowly landing to deposit the space horses, why didn't the first order shoot them down with the cannons on the ship before they landed? And if the cannons were disabled from an EMP or something (I don't remember if that was the case since I can't stand the movie and I don't re watch it) then get a bunch of your red storm troopers to come out of the ship wielding portable rocket launchers and shoot the space horse transports in the thrusters. Watch them crash, watch the main cast die and laugh over their pathetic attempt to land on your star destroyer. Problem solved!
Hey Jedwerd you should check out the original script of episode 9 by the initial director, which was titled “Duel of the Fates” by Colin Trevorrow, and make a video on it giving your thoughts and comparing it to TROS. And if you could answer this question, is it a better or worse conclusion to the franchise?
I know how Palpatine has his powers tripled the ancients of all the facts on that planet is the home of the Sith. Maybe he has one on his post amplify his power plus that planet is a Darkside Nexus like Daphne it amplifies the power of a Darkside usual just like the Star Wars. Jedi fall and he’s in a clone body that is younger which means he has more energy
Darth Plagueis who was a mentor to Palpatine could create life and harness true power, he could keep people from dying and eventually found a way to become “immortal” Palpatine then killed him in his sleep after learning everything and the rest is history and which is why he was still alive, no other reason General Hux on the other hand only became a spy because he despised Kyle and wanted to see him fail, he did not care about the resistance at all, it’s shown in the movie and his facial expressions too.
5:54 Didn’t they say that only these ships specifically needed external navigation assistance? It’s still not great for the movie since the whole thing is clearly just an excuse by the writers to make the scene work and isn’t based on pre-existing lore, but it also kind of invalidates the whole Finn stormtrooper thing you suggested
I don't think Finn knowing how or where the towers would've worked, since in TFA he admitted to Han that he worked in sanitation, eluding to not knowing a whole lot. Fun video though 👌
Correct me if I am wrong: As far as I know, the resistance only sent one signal at the bunker place where they fought at the salt planet. Then they went out escaping, attacked the sith place hoping that they could win, but seem to have failed. In the meanwhile Lando took the opportunity to persuade the rest of the (resistance people? The people that appeared in the hundreds of ships at the sith planet). As far as I understand, Lando was like ”You guys dont believe in hope anymore, but we managed to survive an attack that should have killed us! We beefy boys! We can fight back! Look, we finna attack this random place hopefully ending the shith. Wanna join?”.
10:30 Not to defend this film, but that argument doesn't really make sense. By this point in the story, Palpatine has sent out multiple messages to the galaxy proclaiming his return. He's unironicly told everyone about his "Final Order" and even destroyed Kajimi (or however you spell that planet's name) as a demonstration. He literally told the galaxy to "submit or die." The argument that people wouldn't believe the resistance about Palps doesn't make any sense. A much better criticism would be to point out that the galaxy was too scared or indifferent to fight the First Order at their weakest point. Even after the Supremacy was destroyed, much of their fleet was crippled, the Supreme Leader was dead, and mere days after the destruction of their system destroying superweapon. All of that still wasn't good enough for the galaxy to rise up. Now, suddenly, the Order has a thousand planet-killer superweapons and failure now means your homes get wiped away... and yet everyone still showed up. That's ridiculous.
In the next Star Wars movie, Palpatine returns once more with a fleet of thousands of destroyers, each on carrying thousands of T-fighters, each T-fighter having a superweapon capable of destroying multiple planets.
Finn actually has some force sensitivity, which would explain why he was able to immediately identify the command ship as the navigation signal, and that’s also why he was able to sense Rey’s death.
Thanks for the hate Video😢. I really love your content and have the same generel opinion about The rise of skywalker as you. But I dont like to see it being hated so much just cause its from disney. Just let it be and avoid the hate pls
Jedwerd filling us with his lightsaber as always
Stop it, get some help
What a terrible day to be able to read the English language
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@@Jedwerd I feel your pain
@@JedwerdJust so you know, I think you misidentified Bespin as Coruscant in the last few minutes of the video
don’t forget about the fact that it’s a supposedly unfindable planet, AND ALL THE THOUSANDS OF SHIPS ARE FULLY FILLED WITH CREW MEMBERS
to all the people that liked: i’ve never had so many people to speak my opinion to, so here is a list of things that could have improved the battle:
1. Palpatine lifted all the ships and then they needed navigation to orientate themselves
2. the star destroyers were patched up old ones that had previously been from galactic empire and there were only a couple hundred rather than thousands
3. the planetary destroying weapon had only one shot per ship and was charged from another kyber crystal (what powers lightsabers and the original death star) then they had to recharge
4. if the support from people around the universe was actually them paying large names to bring as many mercenaries as possible, exhausting the resistance money in the final battle
5. their transport ships wouldn’t have made it to the command star destroyers control point without being destroyed so they deployed the horses so they wouldn’t be jammed and their ships could land
6. finn knew the command star destroyed because he was originally a storm trooper and it was standard protocol (I stole this so sorry to whoever came up with this)
7. rey dies (nobody likes her)
This. Also imagine how much food and additinal support personell such a large fleet would require. So you need huge constant transports with materials/food, something that isnt easily hidden.
the 🐁 SW trilogy gets even worse with each passing year(and now they’re talking about a Rey Palpatine trilogy coming in the near future WTF)!!! 😬
@@firestarter000001 Plus, for some reason, all the star destroyers are submerged in water, under the ice, which would make resupply that much harder. But you know, when on an unfindable planet, you NEED to be ready for that surprise reveal...
.... Behold the power of the Force!
J.J. Abrams and sci-fi doesn't mix.
Also I have one last addition to top it all off which you forgot…
The Star destroyers need a navigation field to help them get out.
Earlier in the film the Sith casually send one Star Destroyer with ease to destroy Kijimi
Yeah the navigation signal thing made literally no sense, like what are they navigating through? The freaking clouds? Like point up and fly, it reminds me of the scene in the first Avengers movie when Nick Fury orders the helicarrier to be moved over water and the tech responds saying navigation is down and he asks where the sun is? Like this situation is so much more absurd because you know gravity and all pulling you down so just fly the freaking opposite direction. It just makes no sense that those ships couldn't leave the planet without some sort of navigation signal.
How does that not make sense??? Makes sense to me. Its easy for 1 person to leave a building but if everyone is leaving their needs to be a plan
also 1 of those star destroyers needs thousands of crew members to operate. Who are they, and since when are they sitting below the ice waiting? :)
@@Deltasquadformingup they still have sensors they can still detect other ships. The ships already came up out of the ice, just keep going up in the same direction keeping the same distance between ships. They literally just need to go up. There are a lot of dumb things in the sequel trilogy but a ship not being able to leave the atmosphere of the planet because it needs a navigation signal has got to be the dumbest.
Also people leaving a building is a bad analogy. A better one would be lines of people standing in a field. Their objective is in front of them, they just need to walk forward to reach their objective. The star destroyers were already in a formation, they just needed to keep going in the direction they had already been going in!
@@PrescottPerspective Maybe its to navigate the red thing they had to go through in space
Me and ChatGPT can write a better movie than the Sequel Trilogy combined in 2 hours.
Skip the ChatGPT and I could write my own trilogy that actually pays respect to Star Wars..... don't think I'd get it done quickly, but at least it's quality would reflect the time spent.
Just writing this comment had you invest more thought in Star Wars than Disney.
I'll probably get ripped to shreds for this, but ep7 had potential. It was this dumpster fire ruined everything.
@@notmyrealhandle I agree it had potential, but I wouldn't call it good either. But then again, the prequels showed me that a trilogy can be more than the sum of its parts.
I can do it in two minutes lmao
In summary the sequels suck
Star Wars wasn't meant for Disney 💀🙏🙏
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Disney is meant for kids 😭 . Then they literally watch episode 6 thinking Disney made it. (The anakin scenes are traumatizing for them) HAHAHAHA .
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Disney ruining everything what a surprise
Even their own classics aren't safe
@LastGoatKnight the only classic they made was rogue 1
It WAS a surprise back then. Avengers Endgame came out the same year (2019), and around that time, MCU was on the top in everything, where SW fell apart. When SW7 came out in 2015, Disney already managed to handle a franchise with a strong hand, connect everything with everything, and build movies upon previous movies without much of a problem. I expected the same here.
Andor hello?
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On the space horse thing:
It DOES make much less sense when one considers that they can simply assault the ship with fighters. Why use a ground invasion when you have arial units, which have been shown to be capable of taking down these Star Destroyers?
I think they could also just turn the ship upside down and the resistance would all just fall off
Because Resurgent-class battlecruiser were too powerful
@@_dark.sider_ the Resurgent-Class was a powerhouse, hell, 2 of those things could go toe to toe with a Super-Star Destroyer such as the Executor or the Ravager. I highly doubt the resistance or the "Galaxy Fleet" (such a dumb name), could actually bombard that thing. That ship, which was also the command ship for Kylo Wren, was more heavily armed and armored than a regular Resurgent. So it kind of makes more sense for a foot-invasion.
@@geezersage751it can be argued that it might have been necessary to assault on foot i suppose even though it was a fragile antenna without shielding right?
But besides that, they decide to do a cavalry charge...
They transported these animals how many lightyears in the foresight that they would need them to run up the length of a ship. It's just seems so ridiculous.
These movies have zero redeeming qualities I swear.
Am I missing something about jamming speeders being a thing? I distinctly remember that being part of the criticism of the space horses that the whole jamming speeders thing came out of nowhere.
Can we talk about how this movie takes place in the course of 16 HOURS!! Hyperspace rules and Star Wars lore be damned, everything is thrown out the window for this movie. Hyperspace just casually becomes teleportation when we’ve been clearly shown time and time again that it’s not. They travel literally the entire galaxy in a big circle finding MacGuffins that ultimately lead nowhere. They tease the deaths of all the beloved characters multiple times only to just bring them back. And they introduce hyperspace skipping. If you thought hyperspace tracking didn’t make sense in the Last Jedi, that looks completely reasonable compared to shoving a hyperspace tracker and hyperdrive in a TIE fighter and having them skip across the entire galaxy. God I hate this movie so much. Star Wars just isn’t fun anymore after this movie came out because the galaxy and the lore is now just fundamentally broken.
I just read the old EU books.
I pretend like they never happened,in addition to literally everything else Disney produced. Rouge one was the only thing that was half decent, and it wasn't really a story that needed an entire movie for but I digress.
The dumbest thing of the battle is that the star destroyers used ONLY ion cannons without activating any other offensive systems. Also i understand that most of the fleet needed the signal to coordinate the exit from atmosphere but the star destroyers on top of the formation could just go up without problem and activate their shields. Instead they stayed still even after the battle was obviously lost and got obliterated by the resistance
Come to think of it, the resistance could've just targeted the ships on the top of the formation, take them out, let the wreckages fall on to the ships below and trigger a chain reaction of giant debris rain.
Bro i hate how the sequels could've been really good if they were written better, the effects would've looked really cool and if they had a good story to go with it, id watch them all the time
obviously? That's everyone's issue with the movies. They COULD have been great, but weren't.
It's like that with everything and it's really sad. It's just like Obi Wan, Boba Fett, Mando season III the list goes on and on for Disney content. If you put a couple of Star Wars fans in a room they could've made something awesome and much better. Put me and my friends in a room and we could've wrote awesome sequels, but no instead we get Hollywood writers making good money who went to school for this, making garbage. It makes no sense.
@firingallcylinders2949 ikr, one day I was sitting down and I was bored so I spent all day thinking what they could've done to force awakens and I had so much fun thinking about watching it and then I remembered, oh yeah it sucks :(
in the old republic, the empire built their fleet over several centuries and the grand moff who gave the order didnt live to see even a fraction of it completed.
how the hell did sidious build not just an entire fleet, but an entire fleet of star destroyers with the capability of destroying planets?
this makes zero sense!
Colossal skill issue on the Sith Empire’s part.
Tbf, they probably weren’t all the way destroyed when he found them. Yes, I know to find an entire fleet of star destroyers intact enough to repair and rearm is slim, but still. It’s just an idea
according to Disney the answer is "somehow", and if that doesn't satisfy, you're clearly a racist. 😂😂😂. I want Lucas to take back his story and make his Sequel trilogy, but it's getting late..
Bigger problem. How did he build 100 Star Destroyers on a single planet made of entirely of ice? Where did the titanium come from? What did those thousands of followers eat?
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6:42 Why didn’t the Final Order just rotate the ship to knock of the Resistance? A few people might lose their balance and equipment may fall but that isn’t a very high cost compared to losing the ship that guides the others.
5:32 about that...Finn was apparently force sensitive. You did not catch that in the movie? Me neither. I just know it from interview lmao
The idea of finn being force sensitive was scraped in this movie or earlier ( i don't remember)
He was SUPPOSED to be. But it wasn't really confirmed. Especially in the movie, anyone can say anyone in the movie is Force sensitive but if the characters in the movie don't at least confirm to a certain degree.
@@UmieeYasha it was actually confirmed that he is force snsitive in a Lego Holiday Special movie. Rey was training him and he got a lightsaber
@JustAGuy4U ...... huh? In a Lego movie? Lmao. Bro is that where your getting your info from? That's crazy. Remember the Lego movie that was about Rex saying that he thought Obi-Wan liked Ventress cause he was chasing her around all the time? Did that mean that he actually thought that? Bro it's a Lego movie. It's not meant to be serious or taken seriously either. So that's not even a good valid argument there.
I am a jedi , you are a jedi , everybodys a jedi. And with Ahsoka tv serie, it seems that if you realy really try, if you clench your buttocks hard enough, anybody can become force sensitive and a jedi...Jesus.
The only actual space battle we got in The Sequels was that BS bomber scene from TLJ.
And even that was awful. The entire concept of those slow lumbering bombers existing at all is just stupid in a galaxy where a couple Y-wings with some proton torpedoes can take out an entire Star destroyer. Bombers are arguably already obsolete in our world and are rapidly being replaced by multirole fighter jets that can do everything old bombers like the B-52 and Tu-95 can do but way better. Why not just use a K-wing? It looks way cooler, is armed to the teeth with all sorts of bombs and ordinances, and it actually functions like we’ve been shown how bombers work in the Star Wars universe.
if ur talking ab the bombs dropping there’s literally a real world and star wars explanation that makes sense
@@welcometothedesert8034 it's in space, there is no gravity to make them drop
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Strategic bombers are not obsolete. They are long range missile trucks today. Multirole fighter cannot fly halfway around the world (they can only fly a few hundred miles without airborne refueling and even with refueling pilots can only be in tiny fighter cockpits so long). B-52s are heavily used but they no longer do carpet bombing but rather stand off hundreds of miles or even 1,000 miles to fire missiles or they drop smart bombs on people like terrorists. Large planes benefit from the cube-square law. They can carry a lot more fuel, backup pilots (plus toilets and even bunks), and payload a lot more efficiently than smaller planes. Strat bombers make sense for larger powers that want world-wide power projection. The US is not going to fuel up F-15s in Kansas and bomb some place say in the Stans nor can the US get naval planes from say the Red Sea there. However, B-52s or other strat bombers can hit targets with lots of stuff in under 24 hours... ANYWHERE on earth. Cruise missiles only have a range of 1,000 to maybe 2,000 miles so those can't get there either.
I did the math on the bombing run in The Last Jedi and the bombers were moving slower than my Ford Mustang is capable of moving. Rian Johnson was going for the WWII bomber look and speed but didn't realize those bombers were ~10,000 feet above the ground and stuff on the ground below the bombers spanned tens of km. The dreadnaught in the movie was maybe 500 feet below and maybe 10 km at most. I used all the official specs and got a speed of 125 miles per hour for the bombers in the movie. These are space bombers and stuff in space has to move >10,000 miles per hour to orbit a typical planet somewhere close to earth's size and mass.
125 mph is half the speed of typical WWII bombers. Rian doesn't understand that those WWII bombers looked like they were moving slow because of how high they were.
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Nope. Bombs drop due to gravity. There’s no gravity. Since you have to launch the bomb for it to go anywhere, you might as well just have a single launcher (or two if you want) to send the projectile forward, downwards, backwards, or two the sides. Why force the craft to get over the target when you don’t have to?
Good video but I dont think you addressed the fact that all of those star destroyers had to be manned and crewed for years to be operational. That means it wasnt just Sidious there but also like thousands of storm troopers and workers that were just chilling on Exegol for years just to all get destroyed by the plot. The entire movie is just complete and utter nonsense with so many plot holes and rules just thrown out the window.
My dad forced me to watch the rise of trash I mean the rise of skywalker
Was it a punishment? I mean I don’t see any other reasoning to
I asked my dad to watch this and he asked if I hated him.
That’s some Guantanamo Bay levels of torture.
I'm sorry for you my friend. Forcing someone to watch Rise or the Shits is so heinous that even CPS would be disgusted.
the rise of shitwalker
You can easily make the battle more sensical (barely) by having the ships be Imperial-1’s instead of a new Xyston-class. For examples:
“Where did Palpatine get an entire fleet?”
They were mothballed Imperial-1’s from the early era of the Empire that were stashed away in case they needed a reserve fleet.
“Why do they explode when the superlaser is destroyed?”
Because Imperial-1’s were never meant to accommodate a superlaser, which required them to be directly wired to the core. Thus, when the superlaser is destroyed, it takes the entire ship with it.
“Why don’t the star destroyers have shields up?”
Again, because they weren’t meant to equip them, the superlasers were a massive drain on the star destroyers’ outdated cores. Essentially, they’re using the majority of their power just to stay in the air until they reach space.
“Why can’t they take off through the rebel fleet?”
Considering how outdated the Imperial-1’s are, the navigation systems couldn’t tell the difference between the fleet and a small planetoid. The ships’ safety measures wouldn’t allow them to jump through what it thought was a celestial body, thus forcing them to fight through the fleet.
This would work
You obviously put more thought into that than Disney ever did. Still wondering where the crews for these ships came from and what they are hiding out under the ice for years and years…
maybe mix in some systems and safeties just not working from the lack of maintenance.
and not having the time and resources to fix everything
Also the death star obliterated a planet.
These new weapons looked slightly more like they punched into the core and the planet cracked open due to planetary forces.
Think new star trek without the red black hole fluid
It just would have taken more time for it to happen.
It would have explained wh much less energy was needed and they could have shown people fleeing the planet only to be shot by tie fighers or caught in the forces ripping thnplannet apart
Don't forget that, according to Poe, the reason for the nav tower is "The ships can't tell which way is up"🤣🤣🤣
Yeah this made zero sense, like the pilots couldn't manually direct the ship up into space? This made even less sense than the ships in the last Jedi stopping in space because they ran out of gas, like that's not how space works!
The entire trilogy dont make sense @@PrescottPerspective
@@PrescottPerspective If two ships accelerate at a similar rate and then one of them runs out of fuel (or reaction mass), it "stops" relative to the other one.
@ it's in space! objects in motion stay in motion. Running out of fuel wouldn't cause a space ship to slow down, if anything you wouldn't be able to slow down because you would have no fuel to slow down with. They're I. The vacuum of space. In the movie they show the ships running out of fuel just sort of listlessly rolling over as if they lost all directional control and then the first order catches up and destroys them. In reality if the ship ran out of fuel it would just keep flying along at the speed it was going when it ran out of fuel. This is why the whole premise of the movies key problem makes zero sense because it defies basic laws of physics. Sure there's suspension of belief but that only goes so far. They might as well ask us to pretend gravity doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe.
Also why didn't the first order just split their forces and have half jump to light speed and return at the rebels from the opposite direction? Honestly there's no explaining away this massive plot hole in the last Jedi without completely ignoring how objects move in space. Sure Star Wars has always played fast and loose with how space battles work but this was a bit too much to expect an audience to go along with.
6:20 This is because Finn was supposed to be revealed to be force sensitive in this movie. But JJ Abrams forgot about that tidbit, and it went to the wayside. During the part with the sandworm when Finn told Rey "I have to tell you something," but he never said it, everyone thought he was going to tell Rey he liked her. But he was going to tell Rey he's force sensitive. JJ forgot to address that again later in the movie.
Was just about to say
Using space horses on top of the Star Destroyer was also genuinely stupid because the SD could have just tilted even just a little for the resistance's whole plan to f**k up.
5:35 As far as I know, it was later confirmed that Finn was sligly force sensitive, this is what he was trying to tell Rey, but I can't understand why it wasn't revaled in the movie.
They didn’t reveal it because Disney wanted another billion dollars in 2019 as fast as possible even with all the money they made from Endgame and Infinity War the year prior
@@dheriantavarezofficalkinda right, but it was kept unknown so they could make a spin off movie AND ANOTHER TRILOGY
@@Greenthero laughs in E3 Demo: “incredible”
It was self evident. How else could he last more than a second against Kylo?
@@natsusatsujinki8342 Kylo lost to a completely untrained girl. Thinking that there is any kind of logic or real thought in the sequel trilogy is assuming too much.
So, basically "Random bullshit, GO!" creative decision.
0:18 more like rey fakewalker and the movie name should be the rise of fraudwalker
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The part with the horses was still dumb. They were riding horses......on the side of a spaceship......in space.......with no masks. What were they breathing?
they were inside a planet, not in space
I totally agree, the whole Disney Star Wars trilogy sequel was so poorly executed and planned it's mind-boggling.
You would imagine a multi-billion dollar venture like this would have some basic planning and good idea of storytelling, but Disney fumbled this so hard.
It's a textbook example of how NOT to do things 😆
The only good part of the scene is that you can see the ghost for a brief moment
Where the hell did they get the man power to power all those ships like I am pretty sure one star destroyer requires like at least a 1000 people to use it. No way the entire first order came in like freaking 1 and a half day bro.
That's what I'm saying! That was the most annoying part to me
Don't forget Jedward, when Palpatine used his force lightning, the star destroyers could have opened fire on the resistances ships
I’ll even give you another unbelievable fact. In the Vader comics Vader finds exegol. It’s all being powered by a giant kyber crystal that Palps is beating up over and over to make it bleed. Can’t make it up!
One of the dumbest scenes in this movie is also when Poe asks Lando , “ how did you do it?” And Lando gives a cheap lame rah rah rah us statement that fits right in with the participation trophy generations. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
From the rebels perspective, Palpatine didnt "Somehow return" that is the writers perspective..
"Somehow palpatine survived" would be the rebels perspective. They didny watch him die, so their obvious conclusion would have been "I guess he didnt die when they thought they killed him" How observant of them! To just immediately realize thid was a clone!
The Force Awakening - you can watch
The Last Jedi - hard to watch
The Rise of Skywalker - Impossible to watch
and the only reason u can watch the force awakens is that its a bad copy and paste of a new hope
I watched the sequels in the theaters and never touched them again. I won't even watch scenes on TH-cam. I've watched Revenge of the Sith and Empire again before watching the sequels. I honestly just treat them as non canon at this point.
2:54 another thing that was really cringe to me in Disney SW is how they are trying to make 5“1 women as intimidating military villains just look at her Stewie as Darth Vader is more intimidating than this walking inch😭
You know it’s a good day when jedward posts
Yes sir
pretty low standard
4:30 This is pretty much exactly why I loved the movie when first watching it, but then the older I got the more I started to realize how little sense it made and how stupid the whole thing is.
I usually just try to pretend the sequels don't exist and are just Disney unofficial non canon what if stories or just Chinese knockoff "Space Wars" or something with an unusually high budget.
The Rise Of Skywalker is one of those movies where you can think about anything and realise it sucks. Never gace a thaugth about execol and I now agree this is one of the worst things in the movie.
Also, where did all the crews for these star destroyers come from? Like were they all just chillin under the ice for years or did they somehow round up a bunch of crew and send them, but then how would they have gotten on board if the ships are all under the ice? PLOT HOLES after PLOT HOLES.
If I'm not wrong back in the darth vader comic series it's revealed that palpatine was building these star destroyers way before , during episode v and vi (where the comic takes place), at least they told us that they actually took decades to build. (BTW I'm not defending this scene, it still fucking sucks)
7:54 the reason is in thickness, the ship armour is very thick in comparison to a normal door.
Fully Agreed… well, except the animals running on the ship… so the carrier that brought all the animals was an arc? Carrying tons of water and haylofts full of hay? And what about the fecal matter!?
7:18 I strongly disagree. Like most of the trilogy, it looks good but makes little sense. A simple turn of a few degrees and the heroes and animals go falling off the right side, within seconds. No need for troops and a battle.
No different than if an asshole jumps on the hood of your car while you're driving. Are you going to keep driving and send your friend out to fight him on the hood, or will you simply hit the breaks and send that asshole flying?
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it ahh scene
Bro star wars wasn't meant for Disney 💀💀🙏🙏
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Finn is by far the WORST character in Star Wars history
1:59 Post-Holdo maneuver, wouldn't it be possible to inflict that level of destruction just by attaching hyperdrives and droid brains to a bunch of asteroids and hurling them at planets?
Exactly, that gem of an idea made the whole galactic warfare and shipbuilding pointless and silly. Basicly everything could be destroyed by some sort of hyperdrives missiles, so any bigger ship was pointless.
They would have to bypass shields … oh wait!!!! 😂
The space horses are stolen from the 80s movie “Krull”, except the Krull scene is 80s magic. It didn’t take Disney imagination, just theft.
'here is coruscant'
- Jedwerd 13:22
My biggest issue with this is the fact Palpatine lifted about 1000 star destroyers. Being extremely generous those are about 150,000 pounds each. To lift all of that Palps basically had the power of a god. He could rip planets from orbit with a small thought.
Did the movie specifically say he lifted them with his own power? Or did he just give an order and all the ships raised up themselves?
Also, it would be hilarious if he actually did do it himself. Because then being defeated by Rey deflecting some force lightning is even more idiotic.
@@Gunnar001 it has a scene of him lifting his hands, and then shows the star destroyers rise.
I think you meant 150,000 tons
@@firingallcylinders2949 the international space station is only 900,000 pounds. Which is incredibly generous for Star destroyers, but to actually lift about 1000 of these, just at the weight of the international space station. Would be about 900,000,000 pounds. To lift this without fatigue, struggle, or even making a sound of a struggle. Gives Palps the power of a god. With just this strength he could rip planets out of orbit with just the thought of it. Now saying the star destroyers more accurate weight being 900,000 tons, Palps would be 2,000 times stronger. He would be ripping planet clusters out of their orbit, and not show fatigue. While this sounds like hyperbole, I’d say the planet clusters would be quite difficult to do. Maybe even hurting Palps.
@@Scourge-66 what are you even saying? Star destroyer bridges alone probably weigh 150,000 lbs lol
Rey Skywalker will always be last in my book
Omg hi I'm a fan
Yeah bro. Except it's Palatine. (Also, I love all ur videos)
Sequel: *uses animals on top of ship
Gravity: *leaves the chat
1:34 How did you get Clod back
Return of Claud tops return of the jedi any day
I read that Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams felt it would be necessary to put Luke Skywalker on the back burner to prevent him from over shadowing the new characters in the new trilogy........that should have been a major red flag within itself for them.
On the help thing, maybe Lando is just that smoooooth. Great video.
The funny thing is that a lot of this thing with the planet destorying weapons could have EASILY been handwaved by saying "they're weapons from the old republic era". In one line of dialogue, they'd re-canonise the old republic era, thousands of years before the movies are set, and a lot of peoples favourite part of starwars AND, because tech was generally more advanced back then, it'd easily just handwave literally ALL OF IT, even where the ships came from! They could have been ships from the sith empire!
You didn't mention how they got all the staffing for the star destroyers. They're all just fully staffed hiding under the dirt? The whole movie just seems like JJ Abrams watched 210-year-olds playing in the sandbox and took notes.
You should do a video where you rank the fastest Star Wars characters
9:36 one theory I have is that Zorri Bliss helped with communicating the Resistance needed help by bringing up the Battle of Crait as that’s what Poe talked to her about earlier in the film
JEDWARD RETURN JEDWARD THURSDAY
Jedwerd, the funny thing about all of this is that the one scene you picked to be descent is actually horrible. That’s how bad this movie is. Let me explain why. Imagine you are a first order soldier and you see horses riding on the outside of your ship. What is the first thing you think to do? FLIP THE SHIP! Try spinning, that’s a good trick. They are not in space so there is gravity. Good video though.
If they flip the ship than the thousands of people and all the equipment goes flying too, which is why big destroyers never willingly flip over in all of Star Wars
@@JedwerdI'd say a slight tilt would accomplish the job, just watch them all going sliding.
@@Jedwerd Fair point, but I feel like they can lock gravity inside of the ship right? Its also probably worth it sacrificing a bit to get rid of the only force that can take your down
@@Jedwerd I think for travelling in space either you got artifical gravity invented, and your ship can flip however it likes, as seems the case in Star Wars in every movie to date, or everybody is in zero -g floating, like current era cosmonauts.
Shi like i just like the action parts of the movies. I liked all star wars movies equally
They basically made Fin the village idiot just to make Rey more appealing.
it’s always a good day when jedward posts😊
What’s worse is that these are not “Normal old Star Destroyers”. It’s worse because these are supposedly brand new Star Destroyer models and they are just “Rogue One” CGI models that have been scaled up digitally in size.
I like Disney owning Star Wars, but the movies they have made are absolutely terrible. The only thing I like about Disney owning Star Wars is having it as Disney world and Disney Land. That I will say is pretty cool. I’m upset what they did to Luke and how they made Rey a Marry Sue.
There were about 1000 other things that happened long before the Exegol thing, that ruined Disney’s interpretation of Star Wars.
“Blast proof” is comparable to “bulletproof”, a type of armor or general defense rating to give at least some idea that it is resistant to (x) amount/kind of damage.
The ships weren’t salvaged they’re an entire new class of star destroyer; the Xyston class. Which makes things even more ridiculous.
I left the cinema feeling that my intelligence had been insulted from the first scene to the last.
Dude there’s no way these Disney fools were not trolling us.
They were purposely trying to tick us off.
all those forces showing up at the end would make sense if on Pasana Lando would tell the group that he has been going around the galaxy trying to rail people up to fight First Order for the past year, instead they just shows up out of nowhere,
the uh "ship fleet" lando brings is kinda real bogus, like, they made the emperors fleet overpowered and didnt know how to make the good guys win, so they were like "random bullshit million ships go!"
5:48 I’m pretty sure it is stated in the movie that the first order troopers where all force sensitive. It is even more dumb but that’s why he feels ot
Two MAJOR points that make this stupid.
1. The charge and fight on the star destroyer. They are high in the sky, thousands of feet. Sorry, you arent fighting and running around in that thin air.
2. Even if everyone in the galaxy instantly decides to help. Were they all sitting in a system close by waiting? It would take days or even weeks to mobilise a force a fraction of that size...
Ergh, so dumb.
late christmas gift from jedward
Lucasfilm before Disney: "There is a deeper story behind everything"
Lucasfilm after Disney: "Big ships go boom boom"
When did you record this. Klaud was back.
In his most previous video he said he would bring him back , so this was recorded recently probably
Please make a planets tier list
7:09 The animal or lets be real SPACE HORSIE🎠use by the resistance was still a terrible idea. And here's why. If you're on a steed like that it makes you a much bigger target.
So if the first order weren't a bunch of morons like everyone in the movie, then they would have rotated the guns on their own ship, opened fire and wiped out every single good guy on a space horse. One of the shots we see in the movie of them on the star destroyer has the guns pointing sideways at a vertical angle. The guns don't have some sort of minimum rotation built in, meaning they can't point right at an enemy, like some real life artillery.
But ok, lets say the cannons on the star destroyer couldn't fire, because the guns in the front of the ship are blocking the guns on the back. Here's another solution I didn't come up with my self. Credit goes to this one person I forgot the name of in a vid where they were ranting about the rise of Skywalker. Their solution was great, TILT THE SHIP.
Yes, it is that simple. None of the resistance had brought any magnetic boots, and it wasn't like their fancy space horses had any magnetic horse shoes.
If the first order tilted their own ship every single resistance member and their steeds would have fallen off the star destroyer and plummeted onto the planet below. And if any of them did survive because of quick thinking, grapple hooks or plot armor in the case of Finn, then the first order could deploy every single red storm trooper to wipe them out, just like they did in the actual movie.
Also, if they saw the resistance ships slowly landing to deposit the space horses, why didn't the first order shoot them down with the cannons on the ship before they landed? And if the cannons were disabled from an EMP or something (I don't remember if that was the case since I can't stand the movie and I don't re watch it) then get a bunch of your red storm troopers to come out of the ship wielding portable rocket launchers and shoot the space horse transports in the thrusters. Watch them crash, watch the main cast die and laugh over their pathetic attempt to land on your star destroyer.
Problem solved!
PLEASE KEEP THIS VIDEOS UP!!!
How the heck do the horses not fall off do to being in space?! Also great vid as always really enjoyed the funny commentary.
Hey Jedwerd you should check out the original script of episode 9 by the initial director, which was titled “Duel of the Fates” by Colin Trevorrow, and make a video on it giving your thoughts and comparing it to TROS. And if you could answer this question, is it a better or worse conclusion to the franchise?
Star Wars died 2 movies before this when Rey was showing up Han Solo in his own ship
The Battle of Crait video was the first Jedwerd video I watched.
He is back! I forgot his name but behind you! Yes!!!!
I know how Palpatine has his powers tripled the ancients of all the facts on that planet is the home of the Sith. Maybe he has one on his post amplify his power plus that planet is a Darkside Nexus like Daphne it amplifies the power of a Darkside usual just like the Star Wars. Jedi fall and he’s in a clone body that is younger which means he has more energy
Darth Plagueis who was a mentor to Palpatine could create life and harness true power, he could keep people from dying and eventually found a way to become “immortal” Palpatine then killed him in his sleep after learning everything and the rest is history and which is why he was still alive, no other reason
General Hux on the other hand only became a spy because he despised Kyle and wanted to see him fail, he did not care about the resistance at all, it’s shown in the movie and his facial expressions too.
5:54 Didn’t they say that only these ships specifically needed external navigation assistance? It’s still not great for the movie since the whole thing is clearly just an excuse by the writers to make the scene work and isn’t based on pre-existing lore, but it also kind of invalidates the whole Finn stormtrooper thing you suggested
Han : if they follow standard Imperial procedure . . . . .
Finn : I have a feeling.
What the writers did to Finn should be a crime.
I don't think Finn knowing how or where the towers would've worked, since in TFA he admitted to Han that he worked in sanitation, eluding to not knowing a whole lot.
Fun video though 👌
Disney ain't worthy for STAR WARS
Correct me if I am wrong: As far as I know, the resistance only sent one signal at the bunker place where they fought at the salt planet. Then they went out escaping, attacked the sith place hoping that they could win, but seem to have failed. In the meanwhile Lando took the opportunity to persuade the rest of the (resistance people? The people that appeared in the hundreds of ships at the sith planet). As far as I understand, Lando was like ”You guys dont believe in hope anymore, but we managed to survive an attack that should have killed us! We beefy boys! We can fight back! Look, we finna attack this random place hopefully ending the shith. Wanna join?”.
Remember when you said that technology hasn’t advanced much? Maybe advancing technology is the reason why they were blast proof
Im curious, why they only have one command ship?
10:30 Not to defend this film, but that argument doesn't really make sense. By this point in the story, Palpatine has sent out multiple messages to the galaxy proclaiming his return. He's unironicly told everyone about his "Final Order" and even destroyed Kajimi (or however you spell that planet's name) as a demonstration. He literally told the galaxy to "submit or die." The argument that people wouldn't believe the resistance about Palps doesn't make any sense.
A much better criticism would be to point out that the galaxy was too scared or indifferent to fight the First Order at their weakest point. Even after the Supremacy was destroyed, much of their fleet was crippled, the Supreme Leader was dead, and mere days after the destruction of their system destroying superweapon. All of that still wasn't good enough for the galaxy to rise up. Now, suddenly, the Order has a thousand planet-killer superweapons and failure now means your homes get wiped away... and yet everyone still showed up. That's ridiculous.
In the next Star Wars movie, Palpatine returns once more with a fleet of thousands of destroyers, each on carrying thousands of T-fighters, each T-fighter having a superweapon capable of destroying multiple planets.
Yo jedward! Keep up the great work man!
Finn actually has some force sensitivity, which would explain why he was able to immediately identify the command ship as the navigation signal, and that’s also why he was able to sense Rey’s death.
Thanks for the hate Video😢. I really love your content and have the same generel opinion about The rise of skywalker as you. But I dont like to see it being hated so much just cause its from disney. Just let it be and avoid the hate pls