This is a prime example of inconsistencies between practice mounts and the mount while live shooting. When David dry mounts the gun, he lightly buries his cheek into the stock. On an actual shot, his cheek never touches the stock. Anybody new to shooting must make a conscious effort to make the practice mount and the mount during a live shot exactly the same, otherwise gun fit is a waste of time.
For some reason i shoot my best tournaments not over thinking it. I get into a groove and when i get on a streak i just go with the flow and let my body do its thing. When i start to think and pay too much attention to detail, i start to miss
Great video Dave! I would have loved to see as part of this video or a separate video, you talk about sight picture, and what you're supposed to see behind the gun, how much rib should you be seeing, should you use sight etc. A drawing/diagram on this would be great
Really helpful again. I did pick up an idea from another channel; in order to practice aligning the gun correctly, attach a drinking strawer to the top of the barrel at the stock end and look down the barrel and through the strawer when mounting the gun. If you can see straight through the strawer, the alignment is bang on ( pardon the pun!)
That is an extremely flat position. It used to be 1 or 2 coins (depending on the height of the front bead) placed were the breach ends (3 inches down?) When mounted you should just see the top of the front bead.
I have seen some very good shots over the years that have developed their own style of shooting which, works well for them uniquely. Head well down. Head up. Arms splayed out, or arms tucked in tight.
thats his natural mount because he's barrel chested. i'm curious if he's hitting his targets, but yes his cheek is off the comb. wondering if its because of cheek slap...
@@punchyscyllarus565 he used to shoot double trap which explains his hunched style but still taking cheek off while its mounted so low is no reason to keep saying its low
I shot a round of sporting clays before, borrowing a Beretta Silver Pigeon over/under. I was bruised in the cheek after around 30 shots. Now shooting trap with a side by side from '54, no cheek slap at all. Not sure what that "means" but I'm sold on tge side by sides
I find it hard to beleive half of what these guys say. I took a mirouku O/U in with me for a lesson, was told the comb height wasn't great for my body shape and I would be much better with a browning. I ended up taking the advice and buying one a few months later. About 8 months after this I went back into the shop and I got the usual hard sell that you get at TOGC. They asked me what i was shooting and I said a 525, without a second breath they took a mirouku off the shelf and told me that it would be a much better fit. I then proceeded to explain that I'd swapped away from the mirouku based on their advice....cue some back tracking and bluster. Every time I've been in there they are always trying to up sell. I find it quite off putting which is a shame as it's a great ground.
It ia called glove grip. This is why good shooters has it. Or grip modified to your hand where is trigger finger. Same handle every time. This is reason why I will have it.
How much do you need to turn your upper body? Because If you stand broadside I think it is impossible to mount the gun to your cheek and shoulder and get a good sight picture. Because the distance between your shoulder and cheek is to much than. But how much is enough and how much is to much side movement of your upper body?
David, I find that when I’ve shot a few clays I get aching in my lower right back. I’m a right hand shot. Also I find that sometimes I am too far forward with my weight. What would you suggest to correct these issues?
Hello TSC, I am not able to afford a skeat vest but I do have a vest that I can shot with, I shot about 55% to 60% on average but I do get a very small number of shots that are uncomfortable but that is where the clay has come out from somewhere of the line from where I was thinking it would.
Hi David thanks for your comment and glad you enjoy the channel if you are looking for a skeet vested please give David a call on 01844 238 308 he may be able to find you one for about £40 ish if this helps. Thanks Again for your comment TSC Team.
Sorry, but surely not really practical advice to "ditch the coat" when game shooting! The odds are in the uk that it will be wet and the ground muddy, so unless you have a loader to hold your coat, it has to be placed on the muddy ground, not really a good idea!
All this is meaningless if the gun does not fit you. Few guns come with right LOP and offset for each individual. Usually to short and neutral for proper gun mount. One size fits all does not! Manufacturers need to offer more variety.
This is a prime example of inconsistencies between practice mounts and the mount while live shooting. When David dry mounts the gun, he lightly buries his cheek into the stock. On an actual shot, his cheek never touches the stock. Anybody new to shooting must make a conscious effort to make the practice mount and the mount during a live shot exactly the same, otherwise gun fit is a waste of time.
could be that its not his usual gun, but ya good eye
For some reason i shoot my best tournaments not over thinking it. I get into a groove and when i get on a streak i just go with the flow and let my body do its thing.
When i start to think and pay too much attention to detail, i start to miss
Great video Dave! I would have loved to see as part of this video or a separate video, you talk about sight picture, and what you're supposed to see behind the gun, how much rib should you be seeing, should you use sight etc. A drawing/diagram on this would be great
David, Good point on the overcoat but you do not live in Montana in the winter with temps sometimes in the teens Fahrenheit ! Regards, JZ
Really helpful again. I did pick up an idea from another channel; in order to practice aligning the gun correctly, attach a drinking strawer to the top of the barrel at the stock end and look down the barrel and through the strawer when mounting the gun. If you can see straight through the strawer, the alignment is bang on ( pardon the pun!)
That is an extremely flat position. It used to be 1 or 2 coins (depending on the height of the front bead) placed were the breach ends (3 inches down?) When mounted you should just see the top of the front bead.
Thank you sir, your lesson is filled with so many important instructional nuggets!
I have seen some very good shots over the years that have developed their own style of shooting which, works well for them uniquely. Head well down. Head up. Arms splayed out, or arms tucked in tight.
He mounts the gun so low in the shoulder his cheek is off the comb at times
Agreed.
thats his natural mount because he's barrel chested. i'm curious if he's hitting his targets, but yes his cheek is off the comb. wondering if its because of cheek slap...
@@punchyscyllarus565 he used to shoot double trap which explains his hunched style but still taking cheek off while its mounted so low is no reason to keep saying its low
I shot a round of sporting clays before, borrowing a Beretta Silver Pigeon over/under. I was bruised in the cheek after around 30 shots. Now shooting trap with a side by side from '54, no cheek slap at all. Not sure what that "means" but I'm sold on tge side by sides
We do a little "bit" hunting around these parts as well. Thanks David!
David.With the best will in the world I honestly think you should watch the Simon Ward Perazzi videos on this very subject.
I have a good Browning fleece coat under my skeet vest great.
The last few shots your head was off the stock, how does that work
Great video as always, I have started using the ClayClo Skeet vest, top quality and really comfortable kit
Come to the Highlands and take your jacket of in the winter months
Thanks
Thanks so much for the info
If i dont move my head im shooting high whats wrong?
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Please make a video for us citori feather 16 gauge .
I find it hard to beleive half of what these guys say. I took a mirouku O/U in with me for a lesson, was told the comb height wasn't great for my body shape and I would be much better with a browning. I ended up taking the advice and buying one a few months later. About 8 months after this I went back into the shop and I got the usual hard sell that you get at TOGC. They asked me what i was shooting and I said a 525, without a second breath they took a mirouku off the shelf and told me that it would be a much better fit. I then proceeded to explain that I'd swapped away from the mirouku based on their advice....cue some back tracking and bluster. Every time I've been in there they are always trying to up sell. I find it quite off putting which is a shame as it's a great ground.
@@AdamsClayPigeonGuide I shoot clays for fun and hit them fine with my Turkish sxs, all about learning to shoot with the shotty your using for sure
Nice inspector gadget jacket
I am new to shooting how do to practice gun mount without license shotgun ?
Thank you sir ❤️your lesson is filled with so many important, hello from pakistan
It ia called glove grip. This is why good shooters has it. Or grip modified to your hand where is trigger finger. Same handle every time. This is reason why I will have it.
Excellent video thanks!
Really helpful video, thank you.
How much do you need to turn your upper body? Because If you stand broadside I think it is impossible to mount the gun to your cheek and shoulder and get a good sight picture. Because the distance between your shoulder and cheek is to much than. But how much is enough and how much is to much side movement of your upper body?
David, I find that when I’ve shot a few clays I get aching in my lower right back. I’m a right hand shot. Also I find that sometimes I am too far forward with my weight. What would you suggest to correct these issues?
How come u don’t use shooting glasses
It looks like the top part of the frame is in your vision
Hello TSC, I am not able to afford a skeat vest but I do have a vest that I can shot with, I shot about 55% to 60% on average but I do get a very small number of shots that are uncomfortable but that is where the clay has come out from somewhere of the line from where I was thinking it would.
Hi David thanks for your comment and glad you enjoy the channel if you are looking for a skeet vested please give David a call on 01844 238 308 he may be able to find you one for about £40 ish if this helps. Thanks Again for your comment TSC Team.
I have a Browning Dutton vest and where is the best place to hold the gun when you yell pull in DTL the trap house or how far above Thanks
bloke knows his stuff
Check his live shots at the end of video. His cheek was not in position.
How hard should I pull the shotgun in my shoulder after the comb mounts on my cheek?
Would you change anything for shooting trap? I shoot with a Browning vest.
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Interesting vid, notice you don,t have your cheek HARD on to comb as some chaps do ?? (Works 4 u)!!
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Will a rabbit wait until you take your jacket off?
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remove that fluff off the front bead young man !!
haha i shoot clays with a singlet on :)
Sorry, but surely not really practical advice to "ditch the coat" when game shooting! The odds are in the uk that it will be wet and the ground muddy, so unless you have a loader to hold your coat, it has to be placed on the muddy ground, not really a good idea!
All this is meaningless if the gun does not fit you. Few guns come with right LOP and offset for each individual. Usually to short and neutral for proper gun mount. One size fits all does not! Manufacturers need to offer more variety.
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