Apart from having too heavy a load of cartridge, I think I answered yes to all the other mistakes! No wonder I always look like I've been in the ring with Frank Bruno! Really need to get that mount correct!!!
I've gotten a bruised cheek 3 weeks in a row now. Last week my gun broke while I was on the line. Luckily I had another one with me but by then I was sore and missed a lot of clays. We fixed the gun and adjusted the stock. After watching the video I know I'm also mounting wrong. We shoot tonight so I will try mounting differently. Thank you for the information. I wish there was a place near me to take my shotgun and see if it fits properly but I live in the middle of no where.
Good advice. I'm 6'2" tall and fairly skinny with long arms. I have a Browning Citori Sporter 30" and I then to get the butt end on my bicep a lot which of course bruises my arm after a while. Also I tend to move my head down to get to the gun which makes me think my length of pull is too short for my long arms.
The pitch of the stock is very important. I have a new Browning which will slap my face very hard. After searching the internet, I bought a 1/4 inch pitch spacer and change the pitch from positive to almost zero, the gun nevere slaps my face anymore
Our company here in New Zealand made 28 gram white hulled shotshells way back in the early 1990's, well before Gamebore made them. Bit is an odd comment considering the basic colours that are most common used by manufacturers, Black, Red, Silver, White, Blue etc. One of the considerations when selecting a colour is the contrast in the printing ink colour. Just have a think about it. Gold ink on white does not go so well, but on black its fine.
@@haydenbrown8421 We're in the UK and its not the 1990's now. Hardly anyone used white but Gamebore for years here, then Fiocchi came out with FBlacks silver high brass just like the Black gold and the new Golden just like the white Gold, probably the most common sold cartridge here due to "champions choice" because of Digweed. Find me another maker that has the same colouring .Probably cheddit chases and fiocchi primers all of them but the colour scheme is aping Gamebore for sure;.
Hi there. Just bought a new 694 with adj Combe, moving from a 686 onyx. Never had cheek slap but wow did I have a bruise last week! Slightly less this week but still a problem. Thought about laying my guns on top of each other to see where the major differences are.
This fellow knows his stuff. My problem was too high a comb on that gun in combination with high cheeks bones. Gun went done the road and was replaced with a Beretta 686 sporting.... we're not all wealthy. There's nothing like a bruised cheek to take the fun out of a day of clays.
I used to get a sore cheek when shooting a friend's Lanber. Turns out the comb is way too high and even with me ramming my head down, I'm still looking down on the rib a good 15mm or so.
Hello. Great video! I’m wondering if you would look at a picture of the way I hold my gun and let me know why you think it hurts my check, as I am still undecided. Thank you
* When mounting your gun, if you can't bring the stock up to your face to obtain the proper sight picture without cranning your neck all over the place, then you have some work to do on that stock. As far as check bruising, I would make sure you have a firm grip on the gun when shooting. I would also check the pitch and how it relates to your shoulder pocket. If the butt end of the stock ( heel to toe ) doesn't fit the pocket relatively well supported throughout, the results will be the gun rotating more aggressively than normal. In other words, instead of the recoil being more evenly distributed at your shoulder the guns recoil will pivot at the point that the butt makes solid contact with the shoulder. A gun that has to much up pitch for the shooter can cause the gun to jump up. A gun that has a proper pitch should be a pleasant shooting firearm. Stock configuration also can have an effect on felt recoil.
Some good advice there I will try to take on board. I’ve been shooting from a young age and just started getting this problem after buying my first gun especially when shooting multiple lines of clays. Would I be wrong in guessing I could be pushing my cheek too hard into the stock due to a high comb and trying to get a lower, more level line of sight down the rib of the gun?
I went to a range to practice just before deer season. My cheek got beat up. It had never happened before. It must have been the set up with the range. The bench, table, the block rest....
Only today I came away with a little bruised cheek , I never had it before. I was putting my head a little more right on the cone so as to view the bead at end of barrel and no more. As I felt previously I was exposing the bead too much. Should I now raise the cone slightly as I have adjustable cone ATA.
I had that problem with my Mossberg. The solution was putting a .5” spacer in stock. Needed a longer length of pull as my thumb was simply too close to my face as the stock was too short
Shot the Swinton cup last week with my Fabarm elos no2, after moving the comb to the right more than the centre mark, slightly higher than lowest setting. Got a bruised jaw. caused by the main part of the stock. Should I take less of the cast off or move the comb higher? I must be in the ballpark as I shot 20 over my best score for 120.
Nice video, struggle with this myself,think mistake 1 for me and probably not a great fit on both guns I own can never work out which is the best fit for me. Hopefully will be able go to local shooting school for lessons and advice about gun fit and which fits better if any..
Hello is the yildiz 20 bore a good option for me I am about 5 7 would a 28 inch barrel be better than the 26 ? Will the 28 give me a Bit of a better pattern yesterday I shot a aya side by side my local game shoot sand it hurt my cheek I prefer over and unders and I like the pistol grips I’m usually a decent shot so I’m looking to get a yildiz over and under 20 as it’s lighter than a 12 and 30g shells are enough for me I would just like to know it a 26 to a 28 inch barrel makes any diffence in the gun performance cheers
I have a Winchester SXP pump trap gun, An ATI Crusader O&U, a Pointer trap gun and Beretta A 300 semi automatic. The Beretta is the only one that rattle my teeth. The internal spring is that tight.
Thank you David, i have had this problem for a while now an didn't think much of it. So I was excited when your video came up its like you read my mind. Thank you so much I now have some tips on what to look at when I mount my gun. I love watching your videos, some more on technique would be great. Hopefully I'll be down to Oxford soon for a shoot. Many thanks
I haven't had this problem, thank goodness, but I have had my middle finger next to my trigger finger got all cut up after I shot the first box and only got worse after each box. What should I do?
change your grip or get a shotgun with a better fit in the hand. Unless you're rubbing on the trigger guard it's bad form and a good coach / other shooter should be able to direct you where the issues is.
I mount my gun high on the shoulder so I don't have to bend my neck over. either because I am lazy or my gun does not fit properly. I am 6 feet tall with a heavy build and and shoot off the rack brownings and winchesters 14 1/4 lop. any ideas?
Good advice as always. I spotted two out of the four. I was mounting the gun too low when I was in the shop buying it and the shop owner spent a good while with me teaching me the correct mount, so I've never had any bruising, and I generally use 21g cartridges.
After a lesson with David I found I was "reaching over" the stock. I now can shoot 100 to 150 targets no problems. I used to look like a hamster, a sore hampster!
Hey Dave stop with the snob thing 2 shots is to shots semi auto pump or double your aimbasersment to regular people stop talking to people like children best gun iv ever owned is a auto
A lot of people don't really look at how they mount when they first take up shooting and can't afford lessons , this type of video makes them think and is an invaluable source of information,
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Apart from having too heavy a load of cartridge, I think I answered yes to all the other mistakes! No wonder I always look like I've been in the ring with Frank Bruno! Really need to get that mount correct!!!
I've gotten a bruised cheek 3 weeks in a row now. Last week my gun broke while I was on the line. Luckily I had another one with me but by then I was sore and missed a lot of clays. We fixed the gun and adjusted the stock. After watching the video I know I'm also mounting wrong. We shoot tonight so I will try mounting differently. Thank you for the information. I wish there was a place near me to take my shotgun and see if it fits properly but I live in the middle of no where.
Good advice. I'm 6'2" tall and fairly skinny with long arms. I have a Browning Citori Sporter 30" and I then to get the butt end on my bicep a lot which of course bruises my arm after a while. Also I tend to move my head down to get to the gun which makes me think my length of pull is too short for my long arms.
The pitch of the stock is very important. I have a new Browning which will slap my face very hard. After searching the internet, I bought a 1/4 inch pitch spacer and change the pitch from positive to almost zero, the gun nevere slaps my face anymore
It's always amazed me how Fiocchi copy the gamebore colour and styles, their fblack and their now goldens are pretty much black gold and white golds
Our company here in New Zealand made 28 gram white hulled shotshells way back in the early 1990's, well before Gamebore made them. Bit is an odd comment considering the basic colours that are most common used by manufacturers, Black, Red, Silver, White, Blue etc. One of the considerations when selecting a colour is the contrast in the printing ink colour. Just have a think about it. Gold ink on white does not go so well, but on black its fine.
@@haydenbrown8421 We're in the UK and its not the 1990's now. Hardly anyone used white but Gamebore for years here, then Fiocchi came out with FBlacks silver high brass just like the Black gold and the new Golden just like the white Gold, probably the most common sold cartridge here due to "champions choice" because of Digweed. Find me another maker that has the same colouring .Probably cheddit chases and fiocchi primers all of them but the colour scheme is aping Gamebore for sure;.
Hi there. Just bought a new 694 with adj Combe, moving from a 686 onyx. Never had cheek slap but wow did I have a bruise last week! Slightly less this week but still a problem. Thought about laying my guns on top of each other to see where the major differences are.
Thx a lot for explanations sir, & bravo for your teaching work. I Will implement yours avises. 😉
Just to add to Dave's helpful comments, a stock with too much cast can wallop your cheek if coupled with a thumpy cartrigde.
This fellow knows his stuff. My problem was too high a comb on that gun in combination with high cheeks bones. Gun went done the road and was replaced with a Beretta 686 sporting.... we're not all wealthy. There's nothing like a bruised cheek to take the fun out of a day of clays.
686s worked for me too after several Lanber Sporters hurt me.
Strange as they look quite similar.
Great video. Thoughts on changing the pitch of the gun to help resolve the above issues?
I used to get a sore cheek when shooting a friend's Lanber. Turns out the comb is way too high and even with me ramming my head down, I'm still looking down on the rib a good 15mm or so.
Hello. Great video! I’m wondering if you would look at a picture of the way I hold my gun and let me know why you think it hurts my check, as I am still undecided.
Thank you
Very helpful. Oh, my aching face.
I appreciate the pain you have to put up with! stay healthy!
Could you go through compare in detail all the new Fiocchi cartridges?
Man is out here sacrificing his shoulder and cheek to help out the newbies, what a legend
* When mounting your gun, if you can't bring the stock up to your face to obtain the proper sight picture without cranning your neck all over the place, then you have some work to do on that stock. As far as check bruising, I would make sure you have a firm grip on the gun when shooting. I would also check the pitch and how it relates to your shoulder pocket. If the butt end of the stock ( heel to toe ) doesn't fit the pocket relatively well supported throughout, the results will be the gun rotating more aggressively than normal. In other words, instead of the recoil being more evenly distributed at your shoulder the guns recoil will pivot at the point that the butt makes solid contact with the shoulder. A gun that has to much up pitch for the shooter can cause the gun to jump up. A gun that has a proper pitch should be a pleasant shooting firearm. Stock configuration also can have an effect on felt recoil.
Only ever had it twice, weirdly both times after i'd had slight adjustments to my comb height on both guns
Some good advice there I will try to take on board. I’ve been shooting from a young age and just started getting this problem after buying my first gun especially when shooting multiple lines of clays. Would I be wrong in guessing I could be pushing my cheek too hard into the stock due to a high comb and trying to get a lower, more level line of sight down the rib of the gun?
I went to a range to practice just before deer season. My cheek got beat up. It had never happened before. It must have been the set up with the range. The bench, table, the block rest....
Only today I came away with a little bruised cheek , I never had it before. I was putting my head a little more right on the cone so as to view the bead at end of barrel and no more. As I felt previously I was exposing the bead too much. Should I now raise the cone slightly as I have adjustable cone ATA.
Another great video and instructions for properly mounting techniques
I only buy Browning Ultra xs guns with adjustable stocks its a no brainer for me, you get a perfect fit simples.😉Did I tell you I like Browning's.
When mounting, should the ribs and aimpoint be visible or only aimpoint?
My shotgun experiences were in law-enforcement. I often hit my cheek with my shooting hand thumb.
I had that problem with my Mossberg. The solution was putting a .5” spacer in stock. Needed a longer length of pull as my thumb was simply too close to my face as the stock was too short
Great advice.David really sorted my gun mount out and now I shoot way more consistent. And I got all the answers right,just saying.
i get a whack every now and again from my yildiz pro...... but it only happens occasionally, gotta be mount related👍
Very instructive, Indeed.
Shot the Swinton cup last week with my Fabarm elos no2, after moving the comb to the right more than the centre mark, slightly higher than lowest setting. Got a bruised jaw. caused by the main part of the stock. Should I take less of the cast off or move the comb higher? I must be in the ballpark as I shot 20 over my best score for 120.
Thanks alot sir.
May be a video about some practice in front of the mirror, especially to see if my face/eye is too lo/high, please ???
Nice video, struggle with this myself,think mistake 1 for me and probably not a great fit on both guns I own can never work out which is the best fit for me. Hopefully will be able go to local shooting school for lessons and advice about gun fit and which fits better if any..
Hello is the yildiz 20 bore a good option for me I am about 5 7 would a 28 inch barrel be better than the 26 ? Will the 28 give me a
Bit of a better pattern yesterday I shot a aya side by side my local game shoot sand it hurt my cheek I prefer over and unders and I like the pistol grips I’m usually a decent shot so I’m looking to get a yildiz over and under 20 as it’s lighter than a 12 and 30g shells are enough for me I would just like to know it a 26 to a 28 inch barrel makes any diffence in the gun performance cheers
Agree 100% . Better to get a good fitting gun from a creditable dealer . Save money and heartache and get a fitting , simples
Bruised shoulder every time even if I have a good day on the clays?
RC 50 are the go. Then you will find out if the stock fits or not.
Excellent!!!
I have a Winchester SXP pump trap gun, An ATI Crusader O&U, a Pointer trap gun and Beretta A 300 semi automatic. The Beretta is the only one that rattle my teeth. The internal spring is that tight.
Thanks for the information from mexico
I have just come back shooting clays I shot 100 clays (I did hit 65/100)this week and I have bruised my shoulder and am sore today 2 days on.
Thank you David, i have had this problem for a while now an didn't think much of it. So I was excited when your video came up its like you read my mind.
Thank you so much I now have some tips on what to look at when I mount my gun.
I love watching your videos, some more on technique would be great.
Hopefully I'll be down to Oxford soon for a shoot.
Many thanks
Is the yildiz over and under 20 bore a good game gun ?
Thanks Dave. Very instuctive video there. Now peel that horrid sticker off of your beautiful Browning! 😉
im sure im mounting my gun wrong. No problem with my cheek but my shoulder bruises badly after a shoot.
I enjoy your reviews why don't you do a review on the fastest and smoothest pump gun ever made the Remington model 31
I haven't had this problem, thank goodness, but I have had my middle finger next to my trigger finger got all cut up after I shot the first box and only got worse after each box. What should I do?
change your grip or get a shotgun with a better fit in the hand. Unless you're rubbing on the trigger guard it's bad form and a good coach / other shooter should be able to direct you where the issues is.
I mount my gun high on the shoulder so I don't have to bend my neck over. either because I am lazy or my gun does not fit properly. I am 6 feet tall with a heavy build and and shoot off the rack brownings and winchesters 14 1/4 lop. any ideas?
I would guess your stock (lop) is too short! I’m 6ft and I shoot a 15 inch stock quite comfortably.
6ft 1 and mines 16 inch lop
So what if I have a smaller women shooting a standard size gun? Is cheek slap inevitable?
Why would you get a brused jaw....??
Hello great vid! Yes I have bruised cheek and really would appreciate some help ( beretta 693 sporting)
Realy good and informative 👍
Good advice as always. I spotted two out of the four. I was mounting the gun too low when I was in the shop buying it and the shop owner spent a good while with me teaching me the correct mount, so I've never had any bruising, and I generally use 21g cartridges.
After a lesson with David I found I was "reaching over" the stock. I now can shoot 100 to 150 targets no problems. I used to look like a hamster, a sore hampster!
Pitch
wrong toe will also bruise your cheek. I found that out the hard way.
Thank you David.
Thank You David...
You advise to mount into the shoulder but you mount the gun so low
Not good presentation
A bruised ego sometimes
Great video. This is perfect for those who cannot maintain a correct mount.
Brilliant 🤩
Excellent advice.
Nice video. Keep them coming
The music is too loud 😑
I'll be looking at it in a mirror
Ok😮
That 👍
Another great video David I’ll be in touch soon for a lesson with my yildiz 👍👍
👍
Go Shooting
There
Hey Dave stop with the snob thing 2 shots is to shots semi auto pump or double your aimbasersment to regular people stop talking to people like children best gun iv ever owned is a auto
I dont have gun,maybe one day :(
1. Mount too low
2. Mount on collar bone
3. Mount on bicep
4. Head off the stock.
I claim my TSC cap and 500 Fiocchi Golden cartridges! 😂🤣
A lot of people don't really look at how they mount when they first take up shooting and can't afford lessons , this type of video makes them think and is an invaluable source of information,
Nine times out of ten its the gun ill fitting several things!