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Since you asked, EV's will destroy the used car market. The cost of battery replacement on a ten y/o vehicle will exceed 50% of the cost of a new vehicle. No one, with half a brain will want to buy a used EV. A ten y/o car will only be good for its none worn parts. The rest will be mechanically or chemically broken down to extract various metals. The rest of the vehicle will fill up our landfills at an exponentially high rate. Furthermore, if "Right to Repair" legislation is not enacted relatively soon, repair shops throughout the country will close up shop since they won't be able to access specifications, OEM parts, and programing information.
@@Ghost-jy9hk The quote "half a million miles" was a pipe dream by GM's managers. Present day battery technology only provides for ten years of useful service, after that, it's off to the recycling center and/or the land fill.
@@corin164 there are electric vehicles more than 10 years old and still running. Seriously. The new 4680 batteries target a million miles. There are research papers online you can read right now that talk about this.
@@Ghost-jy9hk you are obviously someone who knows nothing about the real world specs… Co Rin is totally right. Batteries lasting a million miles is crazy. Looks good on paper but would never happen. And to top it off, batteries should be measured in hours not miles. But that is a whole other topic lol
Drove by a broken down EV on the highway from LA to Las Vegas. AAA tow truck had a GAS generator to pump electricity into the EV. Now that is pretty ironic.
@@ColrathD Agree...people suck at taking care of their cars...my father told me many years ago when I got my first bicycle..."Take care of your things and they will take care of you." And then when I got my first car, he said: "Preventative maintenance is the best way to avoid expensive repairs...and never, ever go cheap on tires and brakes...they are your life line." Oh, he also said, "Never marry a Southern woman, they are HIGH maintenance." LOL...he was from Mobile, AL, and he married a California girl...glad he did. Cheers!
Sad that the days of buying a vehicle and it lasting the rest of your life if you do basic maintenance once or twice a year, and you don't abuse it are gone.. :(
I have a 2012 eco boost f150 and I know I’m going to have to replace the engine soon. That’s ten years use. I don’t see the difference between that and battery packs needing to be replacing in 10 years time. At least it’s optional, only losing range after 10 years compared to catastrophic engine failure and not having any range at all until the unit is replaced really doesn’t sound that bad. Heck I got a 78 GMC. Wanna know how many engines that truck has had?
@@slackersurf I have a 96 Lincoln Town Car, a 98 Chevy k3500 truck, a 1999 Chevy Monte Carlo, also a 2017 Impala. The 2017 Impala has been in and of the shop constantly and I guarantee it will not last as long as my older vehicles that run as good as they were when new.. the Impala has already had constant computer problems, 2 sets of wheel bearings, break problems, sunroof leaks, problems with lights, and if we get a good rain the trunk will fill up full with water despite having new weather stripping and replacing weather seals around taillights. I also don't think the Impala sounds like it runs right.
@@slackersurf so 10 years of use of the 2012 and 10 yes of use of the electric battery…. Hmmm… is that a coincidence…is like theyre putting a timer of these new cars!!
@@slackersurf You need to discover Honda and Toyota, their engines are bulletproof and impossible to wear out as long as oil is changed occasionally. A a long time Japanese car driver I know this for sure.
The influence of temperature towards the powersupply of a battery is really a very big issue. Once in winter I took my smartphone 2/3 charged with me, at about - 15°C, to use it finding a lot of new adresses by google maps, but the phone stopped functioning as soon as its temperature sank to deep. ---- So it will always be possible that to low temperature may pulverize your plans, if you depend on power out of a battery. That can seriously be a dangerous risk.🥶🥶🥶😟😟😩😫
You lose 60% range when towing, if you can tow at all... and you are constantly thinking will I make it while stuck in traffic while running climate controls... or do you have to cut off the AC and roll the windows down in your expensive electric car while I am comfy in my 4 cyl gas.. oh I can have AAA bring me gas if needed as well...
@@commonsenseguy8189 When was the last time you had the AAA bring you gas. Towing with gas is also increasing your fuel use. I towed a 5000# trailer and I probably used 50% more gas doing that.
Scotty talking calmly and not laughing! I'm very impressed with the calm demeanor and being willing to change your whole schtick at such an advanced age.
I don't have any experience with EVs but I do have 20 years of experience working on Toyota hybrids. When the Prius first came out, we were told that eventually we would be able to replace individual battery cells rather than the whole battery pack. Well that repair option isn't still available from Toyota. At this point I don't think it ever will be. From what I've heard it's not available from Tesla either. There's obviously a huge difference between the costs for a hybrid battery pack and an EV battery pack. I won't even think about buying an EV unless that repair option is available.
@Robert's happenings yeah and on top of that the distance you can travel lowers everday!!! Now wait, hold up!! So first ill half to charge 2wice a week then 3,4,5 and it's not going to stop! So if I drive to California from east Coast on the way back I got to stop more to charge!!! Are you kidding me??? Now see the truth off the matter is a TESLA car with true tesla tech never needs charging! I don't see why it can be alternator/s recharging the battery while you drive? You can have a dual system like dual core processors! Or quad core etc. These batteries or half or a portion of can easily be recharging as you role! It's all about controlling the people!! You can tweak your electric car to never need charging and once people figure this out game over!!
Your car, or any mechanical device will never be able to fully recharge itself through regenerative braking. Although you can get some energy back from the kinetic energy you've spent, friction, driving the generator and heat will never allow for 100% to be recaptured. What you are talking about is a perpetual energy machine. No such thing. At some point you'll need an external energy source
It is true what you say about making sure you operate between 20% and 80% for the battery so it doesn't lose range. However if you do this, you basically already lost the 40% range, that you aren't using right from the get go. It is a lose/lose scenario.
or too high like here in FL... over 90-something degrees not including humidity! and because of that, the estimated milage range that the ev cars says you'll get with a certain level of battery charge can be WAAAY OFF.
@@jamesvandamme7786 why the hell would anyone want to do that lol? It would be a good way to throw money down the drain if that is someones goal, i guess...
I wish someone would ever discuss the human and environmental impact when sourcing the minerals required to build the batteries for all these electric vehicles not to mention their disposal. The health effects of all the electrical exposure.Also the fact that knowone anywhere has enough electrical infrastructure to handle the equivalent requirements of conventional vehicles for our needs. We just can't ignore over a hundred years of progress getting the world where it is. It's not perfect but it's worked. I think its premature and immature to believe this new way can be implemented 100% in just a couple years when the powers that be won't talk about the downside of this electric wave at any cost.
You need to really educate properly because you all here knows nothing about electric cars. Lets talk about oil and gas where you bleeding out this planet. Oil, gas are to keep the planet firm and when drilling out oil which leads to depletion of minerals in the soil so we're not consuming proper nutrients. Oil and gas comes like blood so next couple of 1000 yrs this planet will surely die.
It shouldn’t be controversial to say that batteries have come a LONG way but still have some things to be worked out, without being shrieked at incessantly by a nearby Tesla fan.
Ford makes much better batteries than tesla and their R&D is far superior. Teslas look like a woman's vibrator but whatever there will never be artistic design in cars ever again only ugly crap designed by committees and computers.
@@spikespiegel2246 Teslas may look ugly but they are years ahead of Ford in technology. Check out Sandy Munro's comparison of the Mach-e vs Tesla. He gives Ford credit for trying, but says they made too many mistakes. One example, they use much more wire than Tesla, which means the Mach is less efficient.
I am a Tesla fan but I agree with you. There is much more to be improved with battery tech to make BEVs more mainstream. Tesla is ahead with battery and electric motor techs compared to other car companies.
@@spikespiegel2246 I never heard anybody say Ford make better battery 🔋 Elon musk is teaming up with a great battery producing company , makes the best batteries in the world 🌍
If I have a choice between getting a Tesla at 50 grand or getting a subaru at 20 grand, I'll get the subaru every time. As the rich get richer and the middle class get poorer, the gas powered cars are what's affordable......
@@thefix2573 My last five cars were subarus and I think I only replaced one head gasket. There were other problems like water pump, radiator, exhaust, etc. but I get what you are saying. You don't get those kind of problems with an electric vehicle, which, of course, you're right.
I imagine a lot of people would be willing to buy a single small shed or something to put over their driveways just in case. With that said, it is going to be a major problem for some people and I would imagine they would need to start developing technologies to combat that for electric cars (like letting the car turn on the cooling system for a small duration of time when the outdoor temperatures reach a specific level or when the batteries reach a set temp.)
Thank you very much for the info,I live in montreal, and 90%of the roads are horrible, so what you said about having a hole in the battery due to road conditions, it doesn't encourage me to buy ev in this city
My prius is almost at 300k miles and I drive it almost 5k miles a month😂 this car amazes me. Hybrids should be the first step instead of leaping straight into evs imo
@@dragospahontu I would rather have a hybrid then keep worrying about charging the EV . I want to use the car for long trips and I don’t need to keep worrying about charging and wasting time hunting for chargers and getting stuck for hours .
Scotty is the teacher we all needed in school; he keeps our attention (in other words, he's not boring), his presentation covers both sides of the story & he calls on us to share our experiences.
I agree... and my wife and I enjoy watching him. I brought up this thought... Scotty is the Dr. Emmett Brown of the mechanic world. I swear. And after I said this, my wife can't unhear the similarities. Lol Anyone else agree?
Love your videos Scotty. I have been watching you for years. Its incredible all I have learned from you. I am a better mechanic because of you and I have helped so many people by passing on all of your advice. I would be lost without you. Keep them coming please.
I was expecting a moderately one-sided presentation against EVs but I was pleasantly surprised how fair, objective, and level-headed this video was. I am now a fan of Scotty Kilmer.
@@alphaforce6998 fair enough, but what are we going to drive when the gas runs out? It may not run out in the next 50 years, but it will run out eventually so we need a plan B.
You can convert any ICE to run on wood gas. We just have to clearcut the rest of the rainforest for fuel! Lol no but seriously gasoline is just one of many things you can make an ICE run. Renewable or alternative fuels like natural gas, propane, biodiesel, ethanol or even "gasification" of garbage! Yes you can make a car run on garbage!
Pro tip: If a charging station has multiple cables, always try to use the cable that is shaded, or cooler. The charging cables at stations have heat sensors in them, and the hotter the cable is, the slower it will charge your vehicle.
No wonder EVs and Hybrids are more popular in California were weather is on the 70s for the most part, than the rest of USA. Here in Chicago for instance, batteries aren't very efficient, specially in the cold winters.😨
Rumor has it that if you install your own charger at your home will cost over $2000.00 Just wait until you see scattered cars and mail trucks all over California streets and highways. Other states should wait to see the fall out first. Hope our State doesn’t buy into this before a ten year observation period.
I am pretty happy with dinosaur era fossil fuel. Ever since they ditched 100% alky model T's. Glass bowl gravity feed 1bbl carbs are so archaic. Yup, you really had to get out and push on a steep incline with low fuel tank. And maybe break your arm if wifey forgot to pull spark advance stalk. Fun times!
Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany said once he believed in the horse, the car will be only a short term phenomenon. But: He lost the first world war and his throne.
There is no such thing as a million mile battery... No battery can be measured in miles. if a person drives 15K miles a year that would be 66 years... This is how absurd it is to say a million mile battery..
Not to mention there is no way a manufacturer would make anything that would last that long. Even if the motors could last that long, the rest of the vehicle would be long gone in a junkyard. Built in obsolescence is the way things are built today - just ask VW. They know how much you will be spending on maintenance when they sell a car. I’m sure all the manufacturers calculate the money you’ll be spending in the next 5-10 years on a car.
They measure it them in charge cycles and convert it into miles so people can understand pal. If a electric semi drives 50k or 100k miles per year then it’s 20 or 10 years...
Of course there's no such thing as a million mile battery yet. It hasn't been invented. That said, that's only about 3X more durable than current Teslas can do. How is it absurd that in the future they could invent a battery that lasts 3X as long as the ones today?
@@ronstocke9805 they will make vehicles that last that long when we all pay a monthly subscription for our cars. 🎶 there's a great big beautiful tomorrow🎶
I’ve been driving my EV for 3.5 years with 40k miles on it and i only spent $35 to do so! Free charging at work and the only maintenance needed so far is cabin air filters. Love it!
I think people shrug at the ten year lifespan of these batteries. The battery IS the car. You damage that battery or that battery needs to be replaced, then you mater as well buy a new car. If you get a new combustion engine, that engine can last 20, 30, even 40 years. You can easily sell a ten year old combustion engine. You can’t resell a ten year old EV.
EV batteries are never actually fully emptied or fully charged either, even when you think they are. This is done to maintain the health of the battery, and is handled by the Battery Management System, which also (in most EVs) automatically heats or cools the battery when needed to prolong its life. For example my 2015 BMW i3 with 110K miles on it, still has 90% of its original capacity. I just wanted to say this, as while the advice about not fully charging or emptying the battery is correct, this is already taken care of by the car's BMS.
I've got a Toyota Prius and I know the battery on there is charged in the way you mention to preserve it so it makes sense that would be the same on an EV. It's a different situation to an EV but my Prius is nearly 12 years old and has done just over 109,000 miles so they can last a long time
Yea, but no. Cause that like an iphone. Yes, apple accounts for battery degrading by having the battery never fully discharge but at the same time not to be full either. What scotty is saying is actually true. You don’t want it to be fully charged or drained beyond X percentage. What this helps (experienced this in an iphone) with is keeping the battery discharge rate the same with no spikes or sudden lose of battery power. For ex. Battery percentage is sitting at 40% and then next minute it drops to 10% then the percentage starts to go down 1% every 2-3 minutes.
Yes the cars BMS/computer controls the battery from bieng charged too much- or discharged too much. But if you drive it to "0 miles" and then don't charge or drive it for a while then it can lose charge further and go below the safe discharge state.
@@sk8ter202 Obviously everything in this video about an EV battery is true, but it doesn't explain that these issues are mitigated over time to a significant extend by the BMS, which ensures over the years that the usable capacity of the battery is maintained to not fail within the warranty, in my case 8 years or 100K miles. This is a huge difference between how a battery in a smartphone is managed and why there isn't a roaring trade in recycling EV batteries yet.
I read a story where an owner of an electrical vehicle took the car to have his tires swapped for winter season. At the mechanics workshop they raised the car using a normal service lift of the scissor-type. In those types of establishments they change tires on lots of cars daily so the tempo is high and things are not always handled with caution. Turns out that the lift somehow punctured the bottom plate of the car in one place which is where all the batteries are located. The owner noticed that and of course wanted it to be properly fixed, worrying about possible damage to the batteries. He went to several places and got roughly the same quote of approx 35,000 USD to fix it. To safely repair the damage, apparently they had to more or less dismantle the whole car, since the batteries are part of the chassis system, deeply embedded. Makes you wonder around the whole industry around electrical cars. It's not just the cars and the design of the cars. It is the whole aftermarket industry that also must be able to handle electrical cars in good way. Then of course there is the thing about modern headlights on cars (not related to electrical cars only), they are extremely expensive and are "supposedly" never going to break if you believe the manufacturers. To replace them can cost up to between 3,000 to 5,000 USD each and are normally only covered in the original warranties from the the factory. Things like that makes the second hand market difficult. If you buy a 5-7 year old car for around 15-20 kUSD and the head lights need replacing, it's going to make the car almost worthless. This is a design flaw in my opinion. To make replacement parts that expensive can't be a sound design decision unless you focus only on people getting new cars all the time. That is not sustainable in the long run.
Someone learned from internet memes and not actually facts. Less than 19% off electricity produced is from coal. The batteries are recycled not landfill.
@@driver4011 ever seen an open coal field? Ever measured what the environmental loads coming from a coal stack are? Your looking at the small picture. We need to move beyond the petty, yes there are issues but you can only deal with them as they occur. Yes currently most power is from fossil fuels but we can change that. Its not an either or proposition. Its obvious we cant fix everything in one go, popular attention span isnt that good. As for land fill full of leaking lithium batteries, aint seen one yet.
I drive a 2012 Mitsubishi I Miev . It is a great money saver and gets me around town . No complaints . It would be great to have more smaller affordable cars like this available in the US . Now most are not affordable for the average person . 😢
Excellent vid and lot of information Scotty, they brought it here in Middle East and it surprised users during summer where temperature reach 115 F battery dropped almost 30% or more due to the climate condition!! Also AC was not that great at all.
@@jlane9055 needs to disappear totally before we become barbeque meat in a climate runaway. Oh forgot, science wasnt your specialty. Seriously, there are serious benefits to eliminating oil and gas from your industries. A quick calculation and i would say, you could probably halve your taxes. You do realise that the oil industry props up your military adventures in the middle east and your government props up the oil industry to the tune of many many billions of dollars. Thats worked out great hasnt it?
Where I live it isn’t uncommon to have below zero F temperatures for weeks with lows in the -30s. I don’t see a future for these vehicles here. It would take more energy to heat it than move it. Wow, the motors can fail from dirt, that would suck if you live somewhere that has many unpaved roads.
We had a Chevy Volt for 10 years - 138,000 miles. It got 50 miles on a charge, and went down every year a little as it got older. But after 10 years we were still getting 27 miles per charge which is not bad for a 10 year old electric car. We loved the fact that when it ran out of a charge, it had a gas tank to charge motor for us. So you could go anywhere as long as the tank is sufficiently full. We changed the oil once a year. We went through two sets of headlights and two sets of tires. At 138,000 it had the original brakes. Also not bad. Did not miss the gasoline at the pump. But unlike the advise you gave to not overcharge, Chevy just told us to keep it charging at all times. Consider the fact that lighting storms also cause problems. I was driving to work and thunder somehow shorted my car's computer. So as much as we love the electric car, I PROPOSE that we build multi-fuel cars like the Volt. You could run a car on propane, switch over to gas or electric or maybe hydrogen or solar. Think how far a bus could go on multi-sources. Cars probably only on 2 sources. But an SUV might be able to have 3 sources. It's all about mileage really.
I believe the volt never charges to 100%, that’s why chevy recomends charging fully (because fully charged is actually 80% charged and empty is actually 20%, that’s why the volt gives you a few miles extra if u are completely empty and wiyhout gas)
When Chevy volt first came out it was 40K. Toyota Camry was 27K. Volt is gone but the Camry is still here with many over 200K. Volt used a lot of brakes and tires. The battery life span of your volt was over. How much was a new battery pack that YOU did not buy?
I was a forklift operator for a few years and the whole fleet was electric. It was a indoor Area where these lifts lived and every day and week there was a machine that was not working or a battery/batteries that would not charge or say is charged and not work. My experience was not so great with an battery powered vehicle. Oh and rhe heat wad unbearable at times generated from the Motor
I also used a forklift in an electronic retail warehouse decades ago and they were all electric. They were always around and when one didn't work properly, we'd use the others. I don't get your post.
I worked at a similar place. There was a crew to replace the battery. You drop off a forklift or pallet Jack grab another and go. Standardization of batteries could be swapped on a subscription basis.
@@Desertdweller1965 awesome to have that ability or surplus of machinery to be able to jump from equipment to equipment and not be waiting for vacant lift. To the other replies, yes lead acid batteries, Raymond/Toyota lifts. What batteries would be best for this application or work load?
This sounds to me like it could be a thorny issue. I live in Manitoba, Canada, where we have an abundance of cheap hydro electricity. Clean, cheap and abundant. However, next door in Saskatchewan and Alberta much of the electricity is generated by FOSSIL FUELS. So, exactly how much better off will the environment be? That's not even starting on Ontario, to the east of us, whose power rates are already notorious - I don't see how running an electric vehicle there could possibly make economic sense. Then, there's the distance factor and infrastructure required for charging. Much of Western Canada is remote enough that this is going to be very challenging.
@@guywerry6614 lots of studies show that regardless of the source of electricity electric vehicles are better for the environment then internal combustion. The reason being that even if the local utility is using coal fire generation the overall emissions are significantly lower then the thousands of small internal combustion engines that would be replaced. Yes in places like Saskatchewan the benefit wouldn't be as great but it still would be a net positive. As for capacity is not like this would happen overnight. Horse and buggies certainly didn't when the IC engine was invented....
Get back to us in ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS. If you want to drive Coast-to-Coast, you might as well take a covered wagon! And how's that ski boat going to work? Charge it every half hour? Like Electric Dirt Bikes? And if I'm out in the woods in my Jeep, what tree do I plug into? Yeah, nope!
@@robertthayer5779 Point well made... I'm sticking the gasoline engine, made in Japan..not by GM; I could write a book about the junk I've owned, from chevys to pontiac, cadillac and Oldsmobile. Owned a ford Taurus, it was crap too.
Not to mention the weather especially in Canada where we use crap loads of salt on the roads that will utterly corrode the electronics I don’t care how much weather proofing companies put into protecting the motors and other electrical components salt water will destroy it
@@randomtimes4100 salt will also corrode your engine and transmission if it gets inside of them but automakers have done a pretty good job of weatherproofing the inside of my car's fuel lines, engine, and transmission, so I think the real issue with salt is the frame of the car.
@@randomtimes4100 Agreed, I am in New England US and does anyone really think that EV range at 20 below zero will be the same as the manufacturer specs? That is not even considering how much battery power it will take to keep the car heated to a comfortable temperature.
And even ANOTHER problem is there is not enough electric charging stations around the US. I will never get an electric car. My family saw a tesla explode just sitting in a parking lot. Thankfully the driver wasn't inside the car when it happened. Also, I love long distance travel and wouldn't like to have to constantly have to think about where the next charge station is located. No thank you electric cars. 😝
how about this... After every one owns an electric car, where will the charging power come from? As it is, hot summer air conditioners overtax the grid ! Think about THAT ! Seems no one ever mentions this !!!!
@@marcelfortin7035 This will require building additional power plants and running the ones we have at higher capacity. It is only a temporary problem. The main issue with adding more power plants, is that they will most likely all be coal.
What I have yet to see addressed, and it may be because of a lack of data, is how much more expensive an accident could potentially be. More precisely, how much more likely is it that the battery could be damaged to the point it would require replacement after an accident ?
Owners usually sell the batteries from wrecked evs. That's basically what the ev hot rod community lives on right now so I'd say that usually they're undamaged
I miss my 94. Las time i saw it (over 15 years ago) it was at over 500,000k (that's over 300,000 miles) I bought a 2008 model and it was nowhere near the same vehicle. Would have kept it but it had other problems. That's life tho.
The problem is these cars are NOT DIY friendly. You cannot open the battery to replace the cooling nipple for example as Rich Rebuild showed on his channel. The a regular car you can replace a component without replacing the whole engine. An EV forces you to replace the whole battery or motor. Now new cars are also a pain to repair now. I still maintain that an old Camry is better. BTW if you want an EV you don't need a $50k Tesla to get groceries or Starbucks. You can buy one of those street legal $2600 chinese EVs. They go maybe 30mph but if all you do is side streets who cares.
If you have a Nissan Leaf the thing changes a lot! I have a 2012 Nissan Leaf and I do DIY maintenance. It’s easy! I’ve already changed two water pumps by myself!
Battery is to insure product obsolescence: an EV is like a smartphone, you throw it out once the battery fails. Unlike a Duracell, you can't replace it yourself.
I replaced Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon and other save battery reliant games and such as a first "job" before being hired as a mechanic. Anything is repairable if you are capable enough and with EVs, it will be no different than a early mech. injected VW diesel (which I own two of and their data and method of timing was difficult info to obtain but I got them to run reliably), pre-1970 kick start only Harleys (my dad repaired and maintains one), Ford and VW engines in general, just to name a few! Even my dad asked me to, and I repaired, his "disposable" laptop when his screen broke in a bout between him and my brother over stupid stuff.
Well if we introduced the guaranteed right to repair for everything this would be less of an issue as independent shops or consumers could get access to parts and tools to fix them
Then you introduce new problems such as a foot in for legislation as in who could be authorized to repair such things. Such measures is what all but killed magneto repair, and almost wiped out mech. diesel injector pump repair. Usually you break more than you fix the problem with such an option. We already have people who repair or make all those fun toys without authorization anyway so just finding the proper "go-to" to keep them alive for you to keep playing with them is in the long run, the best choice. Case in point, I even help VW diesel folks with aidful advice to enjoy their VW toys as my dad does when inquired to provide info with such unique hardware he plays with. Mind, I took my diesel to a dozen "authorized" diesel mechanics and they replied with either "WTF is that?" or told me, frankly to "Go FVck Myself." If one has the inherent capability to repair it, then folks who can fix it will exist or come into existence.
Actually you can replace it yourself, there's videos on TH-cam of them being replaced by DIYer's. Including videos replacing bad cells to save money rather than the whole thing. Perhaps this doesn't apply to every single model of electric car but I'd imagine it applies to most, no need to fear monger.
@@ellisargamer9248 Replacing one cell in your battery pack is like changing one tire out of four in your car. Some people go for this cheaper solution without knowing they shortchanged themselves.
i bought an old transit van in 2010 for £720 and it was lpg gas converted with a range of 320 miles,no petrol the carb was knackered..anyway now done 240,000 miles on lpg but i had to have another engine that cost £300 and £300 to fit it...seems an economical way to own a vehicle
@@samuelhowie4543 Well it’s the biggest threat to the ecosystem he’s spent his career showing us, so why wouldn’t he? Sorry if it hurts your feelings bro
Hydrogen fuel cells would be great, if hydrogen was readily available in a pure form. At an atomic weight of 1 hydrogen binds with many elements. Hydrogen electrolysis from water requires more electricity than the energy that the hydrogen produces. The most common source of hydrogen is from steam-methane reforming from natural gas, but that is still costly, but much better than electrolysis from water. Perhaps a more efficient method of producing hydrogen will be produced. It might be that a cleaner fuel will be produced from abundant NG.
WHY turn water and electricity into Hydrogen and then back to electricity when you can use electricity strait in your EV. It only make sense in heavy industrial applications.
@@bossman6174 the only advantage a hydrogen vehicle has over an ev is that you don't need to wait a long time to recharge your car, you can do it in only 4to5 minutes
@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 But the cost of that is huge! saw a guy testing one of those in Canada, then i saw 46$ on the pump! then i knew hydrogen are done!
Bursting into flames in your garage is a significant drawback. So too is the maintenance (battery replacement) after 10 years. Internal Combustion Engines are significantly easier to work on if you are moderately capable of doing anything mechanical. Whereas Electric Vehicles are engineered (by design) NOT to be user serviceable. When was the last time you replaced a non-replaceable battery in your phone? The real reasons for the push to electric: The government will be able to make significantly more in sales taxes if they can shorten the lifespan of the vehicles, AND the fact you have to have a domicile means they can control YOU and YOUR TRANSPORTATION. Time to get out of Komie Kalifornia!
MIght have missed it Scotty. But rapid charging stresses the battery too. As well as being very energy inefficient. Slow optimum charging at a proper ambient temperature is important. Something Tesla has put a great deal of tech development into. It is the management of larger more complex battery packs which is advancing. Energy density and efficiency are not so much. Excellent as usual. Thank you.
Scotty, how did you get to be so smart? You're my hero 💙. A friend of mine bought a Prius a few years ago and bragged about his gas mileage, blah blah. Then the batteries died..$7,000.00 to replace them. He got rid of the car. I laughed and told him I'll stick with my 93 Toyota Camry. No car payments and not much maintenance. 👌
A friend of mine had the same thing happen. One Prius was still going strong after several years, but the other required battery replacement after about five (right after the warranty was up I believe). He did the math and replacing it plus the depreciation meant it was a paperweight -- there wasn't a thing he could do with it, and no one in their right mind would buy it. But he was still a true believer, for some reason.
@@jdraven0890 My friend replaced his "dead" battery (only two cells were dead) with a refurbished for 1200 euros. He got 3 years warranty for the refurbished battery. The shop took his old "dead" battery, they will replace the faulty cells and they will sell it to somebody else with warranty. If you can't think for simple solutions... It's like I have a broken valve in my engine and you ask me to replace the whole engine and the drivetrain.
I find that hard to understand a Prius battery is NiMh (cheaper older tech than Li) and pretty small as well, even Toyota say it should cost $2600 to replace.
@@matthewisaac6895 ..I don't know Matthew..that's what my friend told me. He said underneath the whole back seat are multiple batteries. He sold the car because he couldn't afford to replace them. All I know is what he told me.
Funny we have two Prius’s the little 12 volt battery lasted 7 years and the main has never had issues. It’s a 2010. The other one is a 2014 and its little battery was just changed after 7 years and the main has never had issues. Don’t know where they went for service but it doesn’t cost 7K to change them. I have even seen videos here on how to do it. By the way the car still runs without it being in good shape. I think we have become so lazy that we are afraid to do anything ourselves. I still have a 90 Mustang that I do everything on it. Electric is just cars evolving, once gas really starts to become scarce you ain’t gonna have a choice, it will be too expensive. Humanity has to evolve to survive.
Just thought I'd share my EV maintenance experience (since you asked at the end of the video): I drive a 2018 Tesla Model 3. Because I live in an area where the roads have more salt than the oceans, a yearly brake maintenance is required for me. This is due to the fact that I do 90% (or more) of my braking with regen. Combine that with the heavy salt use and it can cause the caliper sliders to seize up. This isn't required in most areas though. Other than that, my only maintenance has been wiper blades, window washer fluid, and tire rotations. I replaced my own cabin air filters and I did just replace my tires after 28,000 miles. Here is the full maintenance schedule for a Model 3 (copied from the owners manual): Brake fluid health check every 2 years (replace if necessary). A/C desiccant bag replacement every 6 years. Cabin air filter replacement every 2 years. Clean and lubricate brake calipers every year or 12,500 miles (20,000 km) if in an area where roads are salted during winter Rotate tires every 6,250 miles (10,000 km) or if tread depth difference is 2/32 in (1.5 mm) or greater, whichever comes first They used to have the battery coolant in there, but that was removed. Tesla now monitors the coolant in the pack for any issues and replaces as needed, but they expect the glycol coolant to last the life of the pack.
@@stefanweilhartner4415 If they even use them. I'm thinking it's the same as most EVs. The friction brakes are used maybe 10% of the time at most. I suppose its up to the settings the drive uses on the ID3/4
@@Kuth70 yes, but the inside is protected from salt and water which minimizes rust and if you need them, they work instantly. that is the reason why the use drum breaks.
@@originalmicdrop This implies you know how long an EV battery lasts. I'm guessing that your information is wrong or based on old data. EVs with poor thermal management like the Nissan Leaf had horrendous lifespans primarily because of the fact the battery was air cooled only. The car I drive has a battery that is designed/projected to last 300,000 to 500,000 miles based on its chemistry and cooling/heating system. All EVs made now use cooling/heating loops with a glycol solution that keeps the batteries at optimal tempuratures. Additionally, future cars with different chemistries such as lithium iron phosphate, or nickel manganese silicon will have even longer lifespans.
Great unbiased video. Very refreshing. It would have been entertaining if you had mentioned the cost of replacing an EV battery out of warranty, which is NOT unheard of.
the cost of an ev battery is $4500.+ another thing not mentioned is if you need to work on any electrical part of the drive system you need 2 people, 1 to do the work, the other to safety watch as the large battery puts out 300+ volts DC and will kill you quickly. it does not throw you off like AC. wspeciqal saety equipment is required hemet, safety glasses, linemans gloves& more for 2. also a length of wood 2x2 for the safety person so they can push/pry the worker off the high voltage circuit & then call 911.
I’ve seen a Tesla car ( not sure which model) is $20,000USD and that’s about average. The minerals that are needed is in high demand and very expensive, this might change in time, but who knows. Changing a battery every 10 years is very expensive to me
As an experienced Ev owner, I think you hit key points and painted a reasonably accurate picture of Ev ownership related to them. Like in a lot of things, your choice of partner(manufacturers)can have a big impact on the overall experience though. Glad to see that you have retained your candor while delivering in your new style.
@@oddopops1327 but me personally it has to be the Tesla Model S for all rounder speed endurance and style it's built for the driver to enjoy not for the public that your passing who catch a glimpse of it, it's it has so many cool features that most don't offer at the price range and Tesla offer a lot of chargein stations even across Europe I think you should go view one before you make your mind up but I do like em
@@jimdavies6764 at home in the driveway or garage I charge overnight. On road trips 15-30 minutes depending on how much I need, usually those work out to be lunch stops or bio breaks.
@@jimdavies6764 And cost to recharge it. If it’s a 220V charger that’s like running a dryer for that long. The public charging stations might be free now but that won’t last.
Last week I drove 1200 miles to a couple of oil sites. These sites are located in northern Canada. Access is on gravel/ muddy roads. Guess what? No charging stations. I'll pass on EV's.
These cars aren't designed to go to remote sites like that. Not a car I would take on a long distance trip but wouldn't be bad as an everyday commuter to work and back. Only thing that would stop me from buying one is not knowing how long the battery will last. Up to 10 years isn't good enough for me.
Yes, and don't forget the southwest....with battery killing temps, (even in shade), for an average of 5 months every year. I also noticed the retail cost of electricity vs gas is never mentioned...And the environmental cost of mining raw materials for batteries as well as electricity production.
@@lukula2934 actually these concerns have been addressed many times. The extra C02 released from their production is offset within a few years of average driving even if the electricity comes from coal.
If you park it at Phoenix Sky Harbor in July and go on vacation for two weeks, will the cooling system kill the battery? Never saw one in Phoenix, but hypothetically.
@@lukula2934 funny, because I live in the south west and there are a ton of electric vehicles here. They don't seem to be breaking down in 40 degree heat.
2:35 *Tesla vehicle are the only car you can charge to 100% regularly with no problem unlike other vehicles not more than 80%. Also the Tesla model 3 which is the cheapest Tesla can run 272 miles on a 100% charge.*
You're always addressing trends and discussing them objectively. And you're not afraid to embrace new technology when it does its job well. Love your videos as always.
@@x666x34b Oh come on. I didn't like him at first either Got used to him and correctly bought a car with his insight. If he's not an expert.....who is?
The more you use the regenerative braking system, the less the friction brakes are used. That causes the rear brakes to rust faster, ending in them needing to be replaced long before they really need to be. I've seen this so many times on electric cars, and hybrids.
Yes! Was just about to say this, I'm a service manager and explaining this to ev owners is never an easy thing because they're promised low cost of maintenance but replacing 450 dollar brake jobs for each axle twice as much haha.
When Hurricane Irma hit Florida in 2017 people with Tesla's had to get rides from people with real cars when they left the state ahead of the storm. It took 18 hours to get from South Florida to get to Georgia with power out at various places along the way.
Ooh wow they last 10 years. The old piston engine in my Ford Escort is 21 years old and running just fine. I change oil regularly and flush the cooling system every couple of years. I call that low maintenance.
The price of battery packs will continue to fall and reliability, capacity and longevity will increase over the next few years. Keep in mind that motors and battery packs can be swapped out much more easily. Advancements with EV tech are happening at an increasing pace (as more companies jump into the market) - These are the early days of EV technology, this is the "worst" the technology will be....
There was a Tesla dealership down the street from where I used to live in Lyndhurst OH. I walked in one time to look at the cars and they didn’t really acknowledge my existence. I guess I wasn’t rich enough to even look at them much less test drive one. That’s ok a few years later my wife and I got a 2021 Toyota RAV4 and absolutely love it and the color, blue flame.
@@pascalbruyere7108 Lol I only buy cars that I can maintain and will last for a long time that won’t cost me a an arm, a leg, and possibly my first born child
I definitely concur. Electric cars will become so common that we will need to know more about them, in general. No one else is trying to make this information as accessible as Scotty.
I heard of a man who brought a brand new EV. Lives in a climate the same as Michigan. After 7 years he could not do his longest trip without adding stops to do extra top up charges. It had lost most of its Range. It was considered "too rusty and worn" to justify the cost of battery replacement. This was last year, so by about Feb it will be barely usable anymore. Basically he said he could do a few small "in town errands" but nothing beyond his city.
I remember when I was an undergrad in Engineering. For a term paper I wrote that AC inductive motors should be used for vehicles such as trains and cars instead of DC motors now that power semiconductors are available. Everyone thought I was crazy as the speed of AC motors are tied to the frequency of the AC power. None the less, that's exactly what happened in the industry, even brushless DC motors are really AC motors with power electronic controls. My undergrad paper was at least a decade ahead of it's time and indeed the year after my paper, the city had an experimental LRT train with the University using AC motors under a power electronic inverter control exactly as I had described.
Funny, because when I was in High School, graduated in 1978, I said cars should have three motors/engines in them. One a larger gas powered engine for long trips. A second smaller electric motor for medium and short trips. And a third small single cylinder engine, think go cart, that could maintain a vehicle speed on long flat straight stretches hooked up to one wheel, and that could also be run to generate power to recharge the battery for the electric motor, either while the vehicle was in motion, or while parked at a restaurant, hotel or other. Yes, it would be heavy, and not a lot of storage, but certainly adequate for most people.
@@x666x34b A bright idea only benefits you in the right situation. It was just an undergrad term paper on electric motors. It didn't have the promotional value of say Alcubiere's graduate paper on the warp drive. It really wasn't something I could take advantage of. If you want to talk about bright ideas. Back before I took grade 10 math which had trigonometry, I was fed up with forgetting my geometry set for Physics so I couldn't measure angles but it was obvious that there is a relationship between slope and angle and you could easily use a scrap of lined paper as a crude ruler to measure slope with so I started writing a program for my RadioShack programmable calculator to convert slope to angle. I was getting frustrated as I had to keep adding terms where the values deviated too much. Needless to say, such a relationship is the arctangent function and the relationship is an infinite series. Basically. I was working on developing trigonometry just because I kept forgetting my protractor. My physics teacher did ask what I was doing and then asked me if I knew what the trig buttons on my calculator were to which I said no that I didn't know what the buttons did, he just moved on after that as he was proctoring a test. When we finally did trigonometry in math class. I did a face plant on my desk. In the fourth grade. I also wrote a SciFi short story where I had the jet powered by what I called a space jet. Of course, unknown to me at the time, the idea is the Bussard Ramjet, a rather famous proposal for an interstellar spaceship. A lot of people come up with bright ideas independently but few have the opportunity or timing to benefit and or become famous for them.
Railways have switched largely to AC motors due to their improved performance, so I was not surprised to learn that electric vehicles are doing the same.
@@richardhorlings3774 Yes, but when I wrote my undergrad paper, DC motors were used for variable speed control as the speed of ac motors are determined by the frequency of the AC power and how many poles the wiring is using hence speed control were in unit steps of multiples of the frequency with magnetic slippage between which really messes with your torque as well as heat production. My paper was that with the then new power semiconductors, the AC motors could be controlled through variable frequency AC power from inverters which is exactly what happened. The focus of the paper was to propose using AC motors for trains. AC motors had always been more reliable and had less maintenance then commutator DC motors but variable control had always been the problem with their use and this all changed with power electronics. I also pointed out that AC power transmission also had far less energy losses and required less conductors but at that time, frequency changes were done with motor generator sets and I was proposing that too could be replaced with power electronics. Given that power electronics were largely inefficient at that time, my claims were quite bold.
@@DrakeDealer that aint nice, nor is it true. there are higher cost of insurance, lower resale value, home electric wiring upgrade costs, what if you park in the street, time spent at super charging stations, harder and more expensive to get specialty parts/repairs, some areas of the country dont have dealers or certified service techs for hundreds of miles, the upfront price difference, if you drive a lot daily
It's only because the infrastructure supporting ICEs make it convenient. If the push to mainstream EVs succeed, it's only a function of time when gas stations gets less common and now ICE drivers suffer from range anxiety instead
The only reason for EV’s holding their price recently is down to supply issues affecting the new car market. The big elephant in the room is battery longevity. Batteries don’t last forever. My phone is only a few years old and already holds less charge than new. As a car battery deteriorates the vale will plummet. The battery is the major cost in these vehicles and replacement will be prohibitively expensive. You would have to be insane to buy an older EV. They are essentially a chuck away item presenting a recycling nightmare. Car manufacturers are milking this inferior tech prior to launching the far more sustainable Hydrogen tech as tested successfully in California many years ago then shelved in order to profit from the questionable impractical Electric options prior to unleashing Hydrogen. (Think Cassette tapes vs CDs) Don’t be fooled buyer beware!
I think you are right too. Once the battery technology is better and more proven, I’ll make the switch. Electric motors are fantastic, much less maintenance, better torque, way more efficient and much cheaper to own overall if you forget the battery costs
@@josephsallis2808 I remember a time when Americans where the the leading edge of technology. It looks like most are no longer forward thinkers and settle. They don’t even look at facts but go by misconceptions. I’m 68 and I’ve seen lots of changes but now people want to keep the old even when they know what comes out the tailpipe is poison.
@@jonfscott you’ve also seen early adaptations fail. And I think you will see attitudes change as the price drops, charging infrastructure improved and the batteries get better. It is moving fast. And if General Motors is the first to develop the million mile battery, they might win. Don’t forget Tesla is an American company.
I agree but do not see GM surviving. Their debt is way to high. Yes Tesla is an American company but too many fossil fuel industries keep the FUD going. I do see a bright future for Tesla.😎
@@josephsallis2808 I dont know US, but in Europe government has huge tax income from petrol and diesel fuel sales....so they will tax EV fuel as well or they have to come up with new taxes just to have the same income. The only reason you dont pay extra for the electricity for your car yet is they want you to make the change.
Thank you for this information Scotty and your honesty all these years and perhaps I can share my experience. I have two electric cars for me and my wife we run these guys for three years 50,000 miles so far we don't have any big repairs but we replace the tires in both cars looks like ectric cars wear out the tires way faster also the tires are more expensive because they have to be lower assistant or ultra-high-performance but that's it we charge our cars at home overnight when is cheaper overall the maintenence in electric car is simple and way cheaper
@@miscool You do realize electricity does not grow on trees, right? Unless a country goes to, or back to, nuclear, EV's will still require fossil fuels.
You could always connect the car to a horse, so instead of a 'horse & CARt', it will be a 'horse & CAR'. Just be sure to carry some hay and water in the trunk for when the poor horse gets hungry and thirsty. That's true HORSEpower.
As soon as i saw an article about that doctor and father died in his electric car after it crashed and the resulting fire burned through the electronics and locked the doors permanently with him inside
I have heard a lot more than talking about replacing it. I have heard them complain. But the challenger is a powerful car. The electic cars are heavy cars so they will go through a lot of tyre wear also.
@@FalconFlight747 About $30 each if I remember right. I do remember I bought 2 rear tires from JC Penny one time. They had a guaranteed mileage. I came back about a month later and showed them they were almost bald. The manager said abusing the tire didn't count. I couldn't argue that. I finally grew up and started being more responsible.
Lithium mining is a highly polluting industry. Majority of Lithium is in third world countries China controls majority of mining industries . I rest my case
@@p2p104 China has captured most of the Lithium and rare earth mines all over the world . By depending on EV vehicles , we will be slaves to China in place of the oil companies .
so it doesn’t work in the hot it doesn’t work in the cold it’s can't tow anything, it takes hours to fill up the tank to get going again and depreciates like a Stone dropped off a cliff.. Where can I get one?
It's good to have a choice, but realize everything is a novelty in the beginning... until the shine wears off the gingerbread. As for me, I'll stick with what I know best and that's a gasoline internal combustion engine. Stop at a gas station, fill her up and go... is the way to go.
While everyone is going to be waiting 20 mins plus for their electric cars to fill up not even fully charged too I’m going to be taking 45 seconds to fill up my tank of gas
And not to mention that slaves mostly children are the ones mining the material we use for batteries and things No wonder our governments want ev’s so much
That's because those materials are 100% recoverable to be used in New batteries, and the thriving aftermarket uses for batteries no longer healthy enough for automotive use but still viable for energy storage for homes etc.
@@MrAndrew941 Nope they make up darn near 100% of the battery. The batteries are almost entirely recyclable. Look buy an electric or not it doesn't matter. Much like the farriers that nay sayed those new fangled horseless carriages electric cars will become the norm.
@@ChillyDippers But how much will it cost me as a car owner? I.e. my gas car is still cheaper to run from new than an EV, what will be in place for making these EV batts affordable and replaceable?
@@ChillyDippers Not where I live. We lose power too often due to storms. 10 years ago we lost power for 21 days straight. What are going to do what that occurs? You are going die that's what.. Just this winter we lost power on 4 occasions. Once for almost a week another time for 4 days another time for 2 days and recently for almost 1 day. I live in Kentucky and our power lines are above ground and we deal with ice storms and when we have heavy winds it can easily uproot trees due to the clay deposits. City folk will own them but the rest of will never own one because it would become a lawn ornament during the winter and when we have bad storms. It is absolutely impossible for us to go EV. No one is going to redo our entire electrical grid. They made that abundantly clear so we own generators and propane and ICE's and we always have cash on hand in the event of power outages.
Think I will stick to hybrids and regular cars like my Lexus 400. Never felt the need to ever switch since it just always runs well and has lots of room. Maybe one day I will get a new hybrid of some sort. As always great video Scotty answering more questions that I had.👍👍
Hybrids are the worst of both worlds. Seriously electric is the future and Tesla is leading the way. Sold 500k in 2020 without spending any money on advertising. I seriously doubt that people would be buying if it wasn’t a great experience. Tesla = innovation. Currently driving a Toyota Tacoma and eagerly awaiting the Cybertruck. Who doesn’t want stronger body panels, glass, dynamic air suspension, 110/220 outlets, pneumatic air, built in tailgate ramp, 6.5 foot stainless steel bed and 57” wide without wheel wells.
@@Frank_W. Well said. But be careful, Scotty (likely paid for by GM and the others) is trying to manipulate people into thinking EV's, especially Tesla's, are too expensive, have range issues, are slow, have no resale and so forth. That is true for most other EV.'s but the complete opposite for Teslas. As I read many comments, it seems many believe him or still don't know.
@@Frank_W. The Japanese are way ahead of the game. Hydrogen cars are greener and the first ones will be released soon. A single solar cell can produce 125 litres of hydrogen a day. The infrastructure in the UK is not geared for millions of electric cars, and neither are US cities I expect. Plus the cost of these vehicles is astronomical. Worst of all by 2030 the UK will need to burie around 20 million tons of these batteries as they can't be recycled.
@@Clem_Fandango11 How many hydrogen charging stations are around where you live? Electric is everywhere and 92% of Tesla batteries will be able to be recycled so clearly you are not following very closely. JB Straubel who is former Tesla has started Redwood Materials recycling. Way ahead of the game….Toyota?! That’s laughable since they have been kicking and screaming about this electric transition. Full disclosure…I drive a Toyota and waiting on Cybertruck.
Good video watch again later in same app. Edward Gary Hauser here nice review Scott Kilmer! I enjoyed it and am reviewing it again and again all over again worth wile every little detail is so important and needs to be keep inside my brain.
What I find disappointing is the conversions. The dozen or so videos that I've seen are darn near $30,000 and a ton of labor. Some of the videos don't mention the cost at all. There's apparently no options for a low buck ev project. Another great informative video,Scotty.
I have a first generation Chevy Volt 2012 125k miles. So far it needed oil changes (has generator engine) , tires, brakes, wheel bearings, struts, shocks, and coolant flush. Thats it. I did most of the maintenance myself. Coolant must be replaced every 5 years for $400 at dealer. Battery is still getting near or the same amount of range. Not bad in my opinion. Online data shows cars with 200k+ miles.
Glad to see Scotty has come around to EV's. I'm a total petrol head who builds sport kits cars but got a leaf as my daily driver and simply wish I'd got one ten years ago. Yeah my brakes don't seem to be wearing at all, despite my less than efficient driving. Plus the wheels never have any brake dust so the wheels are always spotless. It's definitely more aggressive on the tyres due to the torque, meaning I need to select ECO mode to stop it spinning it's wheels in the wet. The battery has degraded at a rate of 1% per year (checking with Leafspy) so is not even a consideration. I've owned 34 petrol and diesel cars before this one and none come even close to how much I enjoy driving my EV.
Who said he’s coming around? He’s just stating the facts on these pieces of crap. By the way, if you gain more joy from driving a glorified golf cart, you were never a true petrol head.
EVs have their advantages and disadvantages. He's using it as a daily commuter which is exactly what it's intended for. Nothing wrong with that. Save on fuel costs (LGB), more efficient with its energy usage, and get some fun from sloppy driving on the side streets.
How about cold climate ... truck towing ... and ability to charge? .. And EV's are getting subsidies and who pays for that? and overall price EV"S .. not yet there for me!
Interesting, battery life about 10 years. What will be done with all that waste, what's the toxic reintroduction costs to our environment ? Millions of tons of spent batteries...100 % recyclable with no toxicity ?
But the lie is that battery life is infinite. Check out "experiences" and the fan boy forums are full of stories where a Tesla (Panasonic battery) battery has never degraded more than 7%.
Not to mention the limited quantities of lithium, cobalt, and nickel. We forget all the land destruction (mining) it takes to get it out of the ground and energy (refining) of the metals for battery production.
It is my understanding that mining for new battery materials will decrease drastically (eventually) as used batteries are retired and those materials are reclaimed to build new batteries.
Most EV's use liquid cooled thermal management to keep batteries at an optimal temperature. This means that your EV may use a few miles of range keeping the components cool when you are not driving, but it will not significantly affect the longevity of the car (the Nissan Leaf is the anomaly as it uses air cooled batteries). Most EV's will have ther brake pads last 100k-200k miles.
@@jack99889988 You should tell that to all 56,000 of those people up in Sweden who have purchased electric cars and now make up over 50% of all cars sold there. They don't seem to be having the problems you seem to think happen.
@@jack99889988 The point is it is cold in Sweden and the EVs run just fine. There are even whole TH-cam channels dedicated to it such as Bjørn Nyland. He takes these EVs and actually camps in them in -36C temperatures. Something you can't do in an ICE as you would DIE.
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Maybe talk about the potential of corrosion of any of the electrical components being a major issue from salt especially in the north east.
Scotty what is the instrument that allows you to know if there is water in your brake fluid ? I was looking at it and can't find anything , thank you
@@leandrolaporta2196 hygrometer
Since you asked, EV's will destroy the used car market. The cost of battery replacement on a ten y/o vehicle will exceed 50% of the cost of a new vehicle. No one, with half a brain will want to buy a used EV. A ten y/o car will only be good for its none worn parts. The rest will be mechanically or chemically broken down to extract various metals. The rest of the vehicle will fill up our landfills at an exponentially high rate.
Furthermore, if "Right to Repair" legislation is not enacted relatively soon, repair shops throughout the country will close up shop since they won't be able to access specifications, OEM parts, and programing information.
Why would the battery need to be replaced when they can last a half million miles? Confused on this take
@@Ghost-jy9hk The quote "half a million miles" was a pipe dream by GM's managers. Present day battery technology only provides for ten years of useful service, after that, it's off to the recycling center and/or the land fill.
@@corin164 there are electric vehicles more than 10 years old and still running. Seriously. The new 4680 batteries target a million miles. There are research papers online you can read right now that talk about this.
@@Ghost-jy9hk I bet that battery is only holding 50% to 60% of its original capacity.
@@Ghost-jy9hk you are obviously someone who knows nothing about the real world specs… Co Rin is totally right. Batteries lasting a million miles is crazy. Looks good on paper but would never happen. And to top it off, batteries should be measured in hours not miles. But that is a whole other topic lol
Drove by a broken down EV on the highway from LA to Las Vegas. AAA tow truck had a GAS generator to pump electricity into the EV. Now that is pretty ironic.
I drive by broken down cars all the time.
Turns out there are plenty of people who have bad luck or suck at taking care of their cars.
@@ColrathD Agree...people suck at taking care of their cars...my father told me many years ago when I got my first bicycle..."Take care of your things and they will take care of you." And then when I got my first car, he said: "Preventative maintenance is the best way to avoid expensive repairs...and never, ever go cheap on tires and brakes...they are your life line." Oh, he also said, "Never marry a Southern woman, they are HIGH maintenance." LOL...he was from Mobile, AL, and he married a California girl...glad he did. Cheers!
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Someone did plan their trip. Funny thing is that the NAVs on EV tell you where you should stop for a charge. He obviously ignored the recommendation.
@@ymcpa73 However, it was 120 degrees outside and that changes the range calculation.
Sad that the days of buying a vehicle and it lasting the rest of your life if you do basic maintenance once or twice a year, and you don't abuse it are gone.. :(
I have a 2012 eco boost f150 and I know I’m going to have to replace the engine soon. That’s ten years use. I don’t see the difference between that and battery packs needing to be replacing in 10 years time. At least it’s optional, only losing range after 10 years compared to catastrophic engine failure and not having any range at all until the unit is replaced really doesn’t sound that bad.
Heck I got a 78 GMC. Wanna know how many engines that truck has had?
@@slackersurf I have a 96 Lincoln Town Car, a 98 Chevy k3500 truck, a 1999 Chevy Monte Carlo, also a 2017 Impala. The 2017 Impala has been in and of the shop constantly and I guarantee it will not last as long as my older vehicles that run as good as they were when new.. the Impala has already had constant computer problems, 2 sets of wheel bearings, break problems, sunroof leaks, problems with lights, and if we get a good rain the trunk will fill up full with water despite having new weather stripping and replacing weather seals around taillights. I also don't think the Impala sounds like it runs right.
@@slackersurf so 10 years of use of the 2012 and 10 yes of use of the electric battery…. Hmmm… is that a coincidence…is like theyre putting a timer of these new cars!!
@@slackersurf You need to discover Honda and Toyota, their engines are bulletproof and impossible to wear out as long as oil is changed occasionally. A a long time Japanese car driver I know this for sure.
@@slackersurf A Volvo240 can last 30 years whit out having repalce engine.
The influence of temperature towards the powersupply of a battery is really a very big issue. Once in winter I took my smartphone 2/3 charged with me, at about - 15°C, to use it finding a lot of new adresses by google maps, but the phone stopped functioning as soon as its temperature sank to deep. ----
So it will always be possible that to low temperature may pulverize your plans, if you depend on power out of a battery. That can seriously be a dangerous risk.🥶🥶🥶😟😟😩😫
Cannot charge at home, live in a cold climate, do long trips regularly. 3 strikes, out.
Windshield defrost device but for the batteries. Already uses electric to heat...
You lose 60% range when towing, if you can tow at all... and you are constantly thinking will I make it while stuck in traffic while running climate controls... or do you have to cut off the AC and roll the windows down in your expensive electric car while I am comfy in my 4 cyl gas.. oh I can have AAA bring me gas if needed as well...
@@commonsenseguy8189 looks like EVs are for smart cities. Mad max everywhere else.
@@commonsenseguy8189 AAA will bring you electricity as well. And a Tesla will last over 10 hours in a traffic jam running AC or Heat.
@@commonsenseguy8189 When was the last time you had the AAA bring you gas. Towing with gas is also increasing your fuel use. I towed a 5000# trailer and I probably used 50% more gas doing that.
Scotty talking calmly and not laughing! I'm very impressed with the calm demeanor and being willing to change your whole schtick at such an advanced age.
Advanced age ,you are funny
Scotty does a straight man video every now and then these are good documentaries
It’s called documentary
It’s called maturity, maybe someday the same can be said about you
...you must be new here. and trying to act like you're not. he uploads videos in this style all the time
I don't have any experience with EVs but I do have 20 years of experience working on Toyota hybrids. When the Prius first came out, we were told that eventually we would be able to replace individual battery cells rather than the whole battery pack. Well that repair option isn't still available from Toyota. At this point I don't think it ever will be. From what I've heard it's not available from Tesla either. There's obviously a huge difference between the costs for a hybrid battery pack and an EV battery pack. I won't even think about buying an EV unless that repair option is available.
EV maker Nio has battery swap tech that's neat. Check it out!!
@Robert's happenings yeah and on top of that the distance you can travel lowers everday!!! Now wait, hold up!! So first ill half to charge 2wice a week then 3,4,5 and it's not going to stop! So if I drive to California from east Coast on the way back I got to stop more to charge!!! Are you kidding me??? Now see the truth off the matter is a TESLA car with true tesla tech never needs charging! I don't see why it can be alternator/s recharging the battery while you drive? You can have a dual system like dual core processors! Or quad core etc. These batteries or half or a portion of can easily be recharging as you role! It's all about controlling the people!! You can tweak your electric car to never need charging and once people figure this out game over!!
Toyota has agreed with BYD to use blade batteries, these may be able to be replaced.?
My experience with Toyota Hybrids is my ex-boss had a Prius with a blown head-gasket and needed a ride to work every morning!
Your car, or any mechanical device will never be able to fully recharge itself through regenerative braking. Although you can get some energy back from the kinetic energy you've spent, friction, driving the generator and heat will never allow for 100% to be recaptured. What you are talking about is a perpetual energy machine. No such thing. At some point you'll need an external energy source
It is true what you say about making sure you operate between 20% and 80% for the battery so it doesn't lose range. However if you do this, you basically already lost the 40% range, that you aren't using right from the get go. It is a lose/lose scenario.
Plus additional 20-30% range loss if the temperature are below zero
or too high like here in FL... over 90-something degrees not including humidity! and because of that, the estimated milage range that the ev cars says you'll get with a certain level of battery charge can be WAAAY OFF.
The range is there. You just don't use it most of the time
Damn I remember when Scotty first started making car fix it videos. He has come a loooong way. Nice job Scotty.
I’m sitting here watching this like I can afford an electric car 😭😭💀💀💀😅
There will be a $25K Tesla in the near future.
If you can't afford an electric, you probably can't afford many ICE cars either. There was a news report that the average cost of a new car hit $40k.
@@ymcpa73 That's true, but the median price is probably more like $30K. Just like the average wage is higher than the median wage.
@@jamesvandamme7786 why the hell would anyone want to do that lol? It would be a good way to throw money down the drain if that is someones goal, i guess...
@@ymcpa73 real cars have resale value. no one (with a brain) is going to buy a used electric car
They need to make the brake lights flash when the accelerator is released. They rapidly decelerate without warning.
Tesla's brake lights come on as soon the pedal is released because of the regenerative brakes.
They do
@@mtbse789 not the one I was behind. It was like dropping a manual transmission into second gear.
That kind of situation would be catastrophic on a slippery road surface.
@@mzampell Damn..maybe it's a setting then? Definitely much safer if they do come on.
I wish someone would ever discuss the human and environmental impact when sourcing the minerals required to build the batteries for all these electric vehicles not to mention their disposal. The health effects of all the electrical exposure.Also the fact that knowone anywhere has enough electrical infrastructure to handle the equivalent requirements of conventional vehicles for our needs. We just can't ignore over a hundred years of progress getting the world where it is. It's not perfect but it's worked. I think its premature and immature to believe this new way can be implemented 100% in just a couple years when the powers that be won't talk about the downside of this electric wave at any cost.
I just posted a video about the horrendous conditions in the Congo, where child labor is used to dig colbolt for the batteries. Just horrible...
You need to really educate properly because you all here knows nothing about electric cars. Lets talk about oil and gas where you bleeding out this planet. Oil, gas are to keep the planet firm and when drilling out oil which leads to depletion of minerals in the soil so we're not consuming proper nutrients. Oil and gas comes like blood so next couple of 1000 yrs this planet will surely die.
The cool part is that we are making discoveries everyday to replace exotic materials, improve batteries and get more performance out of EVs!
This^^^
Imagine a world without gas, and no alternatives. Electric must progress to be one of the viable options in the future.
It shouldn’t be controversial to say that batteries have come a LONG way but still have some things to be worked out, without being shrieked at incessantly by a nearby Tesla fan.
Ford makes much better batteries than tesla and their R&D is far superior. Teslas look like a woman's vibrator but whatever there will never be artistic design in cars ever again only ugly crap designed by committees and computers.
@@spikespiegel2246 Teslas may look ugly but they are years ahead of Ford in technology. Check out Sandy Munro's comparison of the Mach-e vs Tesla. He gives Ford credit for trying, but says they made too many mistakes. One example, they use much more wire than Tesla, which means the Mach is less efficient.
I am a Tesla fan but I agree with you. There is much more to be improved with battery tech to make BEVs more mainstream. Tesla is ahead with battery and electric motor techs compared to other car companies.
@@spikespiegel2246 I never heard anybody say Ford make better battery 🔋
Elon musk is teaming up with a great battery producing company , makes the best batteries in the world 🌍
@@spikespiegel2246 haha. Take a look at the Ford Mach-E teardown, you’ll eat your hat.
If I have a choice between getting a Tesla at 50 grand or getting a subaru at 20 grand, I'll get the subaru every time. As the rich get richer and the middle class get poorer, the gas powered cars are what's affordable......
I'm with you on that
Still? Gas prices just go up
Don't buy a Subaru unless you want to pay for a head gasket replacement (x2) prematurely, compared to an inline 4.
@@thefix2573 My last five cars were subarus and I think I only replaced one head gasket. There were other problems like water pump, radiator, exhaust, etc. but I get what you are saying. You don't get those kind of problems with an electric vehicle, which, of course, you're right.
What about a Nissan Leif for 20k TESLA IS NOT THE ONLY EV MAKER PEOPLE!!!!!!
I live in Texas, don't have a garage, and have no shade to park in at my apartment or at work. Not gonna work. Haha
Get a big deck umbrella haha
Fellow Texan here, and I for one approve this message...
I imagine a lot of people would be willing to buy a single small shed or something to put over their driveways just in case. With that said, it is going to be a major problem for some people and I would imagine they would need to start developing technologies to combat that for electric cars (like letting the car turn on the cooling system for a small duration of time when the outdoor temperatures reach a specific level or when the batteries reach a set temp.)
Too bad. Yet another reason not to live in TX.
@@wholeNwon Must be a socialist.
Thank you very much for the info,I live in montreal, and 90%of the roads are horrible, so what you said about having a hole in the battery due to road conditions, it doesn't encourage me to buy ev in this city
My prius is almost at 300k miles and I drive it almost 5k miles a month😂 this car amazes me. Hybrids should be the first step instead of leaping straight into evs imo
Agreed
@@TheGecko213 only issue is hybrids are a lame way for the manufactures to delay while amortising their costs. Its not done for your benefit anymore.
@@TheGecko213 hybrids are basically a compromised ice car.
EVs are just better.
@@dragospahontu
I would rather have a hybrid then keep worrying about charging the EV .
I want to use the car for long trips and I don’t need to keep worrying about charging and wasting time hunting for chargers and getting stuck for hours .
@@andyfreeze4072
I hope you get stuck in long lines for charging when every @hole starts driving EVs
Scotty is the teacher we all needed in school; he keeps our attention (in other words, he's not boring), his presentation covers both sides of the story & he calls on us to share our experiences.
I agree... and my wife and I enjoy watching him. I brought up this thought...
Scotty is the Dr. Emmett Brown of the mechanic world. I swear. And after I said this, my wife can't unhear the similarities. Lol
Anyone else agree?
Amen
Lol
@@jamesmerutka889 Great Scott!
Oo
Love your videos Scotty. I have been watching you for years. Its incredible all I have learned from you. I am a better mechanic because of you and I have helped so many people by passing on all of your advice. I would be lost without you. Keep them coming please.
Your video sold me. I'm sticking with a combustion engine.
I was expecting a moderately one-sided presentation against EVs but I was pleasantly surprised how fair, objective, and level-headed this video was. I am now a fan of Scotty Kilmer.
You were expecting that because you know that's the truth. EVs are a meme for people dumb enough to buy into the "green energy" delusion.
@@alphaforce6998 fair enough, but what are we going to drive when the gas runs out? It may not run out in the next 50 years, but it will run out eventually so we need a plan B.
You can convert any ICE to run on wood gas. We just have to clearcut the rest of the rainforest for fuel! Lol no but seriously gasoline is just one of many things you can make an ICE run. Renewable or alternative fuels like natural gas, propane, biodiesel, ethanol or even "gasification" of garbage! Yes you can make a car run on garbage!
@@remi009340 an ICE can run on hydrogen too.
@@SuzukiKid400 Exactly! so you answered your own question then lol
Pro tip: If a charging station has multiple cables, always try to use the cable that is shaded, or cooler. The charging cables at stations have heat sensors in them, and the hotter the cable is, the slower it will charge your vehicle.
Much easier to just drive up to a filling station, select grade of gasoline, fill up and in 5 minutes, you are on your way.
@@bondgabebond4907 your stations must be faster, it is at least 15 minutes here
Let me guess, California or some other place that worries about the gas fumes destroying the planet?
@@msgsgt Lol california is weird
No problem, just shade the cables from the sun with your body, and you can maintain optimal charging station performance!
No wonder EVs and Hybrids are more popular in California were weather is on the 70s for the most part, than the rest of USA. Here in Chicago for instance, batteries aren't very efficient, specially in the cold winters.😨
As long as the power stays on, they'll be fine. No power, no car.
@Mr Destro Bingo. Snow and no wind means that green doesn't always work. Thus, no MTV!
International Falls Minnesota. -54f in January. You can deplete the battery driving to the mailbox.
@Mr Destro $hit happens 🤷🏻♂️🤣
@@guysview Crazy 😄
Rumor has it that if you install your own charger at your home will cost over $2000.00
Just wait until you see scattered cars and mail trucks all over California streets and highways.
Other states should wait to see the fall out first. Hope our State doesn’t buy into this before a ten year observation period.
I'm looking forward to driving a Flintstone car, the next generation of automotive technology.
Highway engineers should design all roads so they go downhill. We could all drive soapbox derby cars.
I am pretty happy with dinosaur era fossil fuel. Ever since they ditched 100% alky model T's. Glass bowl gravity feed 1bbl carbs are so archaic.
Yup, you really had to get out and push on a steep incline with low fuel tank. And maybe break your arm if wifey forgot to pull spark advance stalk. Fun times!
You must have gotten an advance copy of the "infrastructure bill."
I'm "working" on my callouses for "braking".
Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany said once he believed in the horse, the car will be only a short term phenomenon. But: He lost the first world war and his throne.
There is no such thing as a million mile battery... No battery can be measured in miles.
if a person drives 15K miles a year that would be 66 years... This is how absurd it is to say a million mile battery..
Not to mention there is no way a manufacturer would make anything that would last that long. Even if the motors could last that long, the rest of the vehicle would be long gone in a junkyard. Built in obsolescence is the way things are built today - just ask VW. They know how much you will be spending on maintenance when they sell a car. I’m sure all the manufacturers calculate the money you’ll be spending in the next 5-10 years on a car.
They measure it them in charge cycles and convert it into miles so people can understand pal.
If a electric semi drives 50k or 100k miles per year then it’s 20 or 10 years...
Of course there's no such thing as a million mile battery yet. It hasn't been invented.
That said, that's only about 3X more durable than current Teslas can do. How is it absurd that in the future they could invent a battery that lasts 3X as long as the ones today?
@@ronstocke9805 they will make vehicles that last that long when we all pay a monthly subscription for our cars. 🎶 there's a great big beautiful tomorrow🎶
Or we can take the battery from our old car and put it in our new car, making the price of replacing our car every 5-10 years much cheaper.
I’ve been driving my EV for 3.5 years with 40k miles on it and i only spent $35 to do so! Free charging at work and the only maintenance needed so far is cabin air filters. Love it!
How far do u drive?
But the million dollar question is? How long is going to last the whole vehicle ?
@@zerosparky9510 I’ve taken it on 200, 300 and 700 mile road trips, mostly commuting to work tho.
@jane marshall did you have a Tesla? I’ve had 2 very minor problems which they fixed under the warranty.
@@2081calin ask me in ten years, I’ve always keep my cars 12-15 years
I think people shrug at the ten year lifespan of these batteries. The battery IS the car. You damage that battery or that battery needs to be replaced, then you mater as well buy a new car. If you get a new combustion engine, that engine can last 20, 30, even 40 years. You can easily sell a ten year old combustion engine. You can’t resell a ten year old EV.
EV batteries are never actually fully emptied or fully charged either, even when you think they are. This is done to maintain the health of the battery, and is handled by the Battery Management System, which also (in most EVs) automatically heats or cools the battery when needed to prolong its life. For example my 2015 BMW i3 with 110K miles on it, still has 90% of its original capacity. I just wanted to say this, as while the advice about not fully charging or emptying the battery is correct, this is already taken care of by the car's BMS.
I've got a Toyota Prius and I know the battery on there is charged in the way you mention to preserve it so it makes sense that would be the same on an EV.
It's a different situation to an EV but my Prius is nearly 12 years old and has done just over 109,000 miles so they can last a long time
Yea, but no. Cause that like an iphone. Yes, apple accounts for battery degrading by having the battery never fully discharge but at the same time not to be full either. What scotty is saying is actually true. You don’t want it to be fully charged or drained beyond X percentage. What this helps (experienced this in an iphone) with is keeping the battery discharge rate the same with no spikes or sudden lose of battery power. For ex. Battery percentage is sitting at 40% and then next minute it drops to 10% then the percentage starts to go down 1% every 2-3 minutes.
Some manufacturers have bigger buffer than others. The ones that eke out max range are the worst.
Yes the cars BMS/computer controls the battery from bieng charged too much- or discharged too much. But if you drive it to "0 miles" and then don't charge or drive it for a while then it can lose charge further and go below the safe discharge state.
@@sk8ter202 Obviously everything in this video about an EV battery is true, but it doesn't explain that these issues are mitigated over time to a significant extend by the BMS, which ensures over the years that the usable capacity of the battery is maintained to not fail within the warranty, in my case 8 years or 100K miles. This is a huge difference between how a battery in a smartphone is managed and why there isn't a roaring trade in recycling EV batteries yet.
I read a story where an owner of an electrical vehicle took the car to have his tires swapped for winter season. At the mechanics workshop they raised the car using a normal service lift of the scissor-type. In those types of establishments they change tires on lots of cars daily so the tempo is high and things are not always handled with caution.
Turns out that the lift somehow punctured the bottom plate of the car in one place which is where all the batteries are located.
The owner noticed that and of course wanted it to be properly fixed, worrying about possible damage to the batteries.
He went to several places and got roughly the same quote of approx 35,000 USD to fix it.
To safely repair the damage, apparently they had to more or less dismantle the whole car, since the batteries are part of the chassis system, deeply embedded.
Makes you wonder around the whole industry around electrical cars. It's not just the cars and the design of the cars. It is the whole aftermarket industry that also must be able to handle electrical cars in good way.
Then of course there is the thing about modern headlights on cars (not related to electrical cars only), they are extremely expensive and are "supposedly" never going to break if you believe the manufacturers. To replace them can cost up to between 3,000 to 5,000 USD each and are normally only covered in the original warranties from the the factory. Things like that makes the second hand market difficult. If you buy a 5-7 year old car for around 15-20 kUSD and the head lights need replacing, it's going to make the car almost worthless. This is a design flaw in my opinion. To make replacement parts that expensive can't be a sound design decision unless you focus only on people getting new cars all the time. That is not sustainable in the long run.
It’s not the environmental answer that’s taking into account the resources needed for the battery
yea , what do you do with all the big old corroding n leaking lithium batteries ? landfills are full.
Totally 100% right and then coal factories that have to produce electricity for electric cars blue twice as much
yea , EVs n batteries are so inefficient......even moreso in very hot n very cold climates.
Someone learned from internet memes and not actually facts. Less than 19% off electricity produced is from coal. The batteries are recycled not landfill.
@@driver4011 ever seen an open coal field? Ever measured what the environmental loads coming from a coal stack are? Your looking at the small picture. We need to move beyond the petty, yes there are issues but you can only deal with them as they occur. Yes currently most power is from fossil fuels but we can change that. Its not an either or proposition. Its obvious we cant fix everything in one go, popular attention span isnt that good. As for land fill full of leaking lithium batteries, aint seen one yet.
I drive a 2012 Mitsubishi I Miev . It is a great money saver and gets me around town . No complaints . It would be great to have more smaller affordable cars like this available in the US . Now most are not affordable for the average person . 😢
Excellent vid and lot of information Scotty, they brought it here in Middle East and it surprised users during summer where temperature reach 115 F battery dropped almost 30% or more due to the climate condition!! Also AC was not that great at all.
@UCn7eB_AzWujLEOsHKpPQftw USA is now buying crud oil from the first of March because our production has gone down with Biden's regulations
@@jlane9055 needs to disappear totally before we become barbeque meat in a climate runaway. Oh forgot, science wasnt your specialty. Seriously, there are serious benefits to eliminating oil and gas from your industries. A quick calculation and i would say, you could probably halve your taxes. You do realise that the oil industry props up your military adventures in the middle east and your government props up the oil industry to the tune of many many billions of dollars. Thats worked out great hasnt it?
It sounds like that you bought a car without a heat pump which would have made your battery and AC cooling much more efficient.
@@stevewallace1117 why would they even ship one without a heat pump to the Middle East?
Where I live it isn’t uncommon to have below zero F temperatures for weeks with lows in the -30s. I don’t see a future for these vehicles here. It would take more energy to heat it than move it. Wow, the motors can fail from dirt, that would suck if you live somewhere that has many unpaved roads.
The best way to care for an electric car is to sell it and let the new owner pay for the repairs
We call that the BMW, Land Rover, Mercedes plan
OK but what are you going to Drive !!! ????
@@rogerhegemier8491 Ebike or a bicycle
The most logical and scumest thing too do 😂😂😂
Im running about 700 miles with 13 gallons of diesel.
Screw the electric cars, for now
what are you driving a diesel gokart?
@@LichaelMewis I get 740 miles on 13 gallons in a Clio 1.5cdi
We had a Chevy Volt for 10 years - 138,000 miles. It got 50 miles on a charge, and went down every year a little as it got older. But after 10 years we were still getting 27 miles per charge
which is not bad for a 10 year old electric car. We loved the fact that when it ran out of a charge, it had a gas tank to charge motor for us. So you could go anywhere as long as the tank is
sufficiently full. We changed the oil once a year. We went through two sets of headlights and two sets of tires. At 138,000 it had the original brakes. Also not bad. Did not miss the gasoline at the pump. But unlike the advise you gave to not overcharge, Chevy just told us to keep it charging at all times. Consider the fact that lighting storms also cause problems. I was driving to work and thunder somehow shorted my car's computer. So as much as we love the electric car, I PROPOSE that we build multi-fuel cars like the Volt. You could run a car on propane, switch over to gas or electric or maybe hydrogen or solar. Think how far a bus could go on multi-sources. Cars probably only on 2 sources. But an SUV might be able to have 3 sources. It's all about mileage really.
I believe the volt never charges to 100%, that’s why chevy recomends charging fully (because fully charged is actually 80% charged and empty is actually 20%, that’s why the volt gives you a few miles extra if u are completely empty and wiyhout gas)
When Chevy volt first came out it was 40K. Toyota Camry was 27K. Volt is gone but the Camry is still here with many over 200K. Volt used a lot of brakes and tires. The battery life span of your volt was over. How much was a new battery pack that YOU did not buy?
Hybrid? Great idea, too bad no car manufacturers produce one!
I had the honor of changing out batteries in a volt the cost when done? Customer paid over 7k
What’s a battery change cost?
I was a forklift operator for a few years and the whole fleet was electric. It was a indoor Area where these lifts lived and every day and week there was a machine that was not working or a battery/batteries that would not charge or say is charged and not work. My experience was not so great with an battery powered vehicle. Oh and rhe heat wad unbearable at times generated from the Motor
What type of batteries were they? I'm guessing Lead Acid
I agree there a piece of crap
I also used a forklift in an electronic retail warehouse decades ago and they were all electric.
They were always around and when one didn't work properly, we'd use the others.
I don't get your post.
I worked at a similar place. There was a crew to replace the battery. You drop off a forklift or pallet Jack grab another and go.
Standardization of batteries could be swapped on a subscription basis.
@@Desertdweller1965 awesome to have that ability or surplus of machinery to be able to jump from equipment to equipment and not be waiting for vacant lift. To the other replies, yes lead acid batteries, Raymond/Toyota lifts. What batteries would be best for this application or work load?
Now all we need is a power grid that can handle all this extra capacity.
This sounds to me like it could be a thorny issue.
I live in Manitoba, Canada, where we have an abundance of cheap hydro electricity. Clean, cheap and abundant. However, next door in Saskatchewan and Alberta much of the electricity is generated by FOSSIL FUELS.
So, exactly how much better off will the environment be?
That's not even starting on Ontario, to the east of us, whose power rates are already notorious - I don't see how running an electric vehicle there could possibly make economic sense.
Then, there's the distance factor and infrastructure required for charging. Much of Western Canada is remote enough that this is going to be very challenging.
Shockingly true!!
@@guywerry6614 lots of studies show that regardless of the source of electricity electric vehicles are better for the environment then internal combustion. The reason being that even if the local utility is using coal fire generation the overall emissions are significantly lower then the thousands of small internal combustion engines that would be replaced.
Yes in places like Saskatchewan the benefit wouldn't be as great but it still would be a net positive.
As for capacity is not like this would happen overnight. Horse and buggies certainly didn't when the IC engine was invented....
Get back to us in ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS. If you want to drive Coast-to-Coast, you might as well take a covered wagon! And how's that ski boat going to work? Charge it every half hour? Like Electric Dirt Bikes? And if I'm out in the woods in my Jeep, what tree do I plug into? Yeah, nope!
@@robertthayer5779
Point well made... I'm sticking the gasoline engine, made in Japan..not by GM; I could write a book about the junk I've owned, from chevys to pontiac, cadillac and Oldsmobile. Owned a ford Taurus, it was crap too.
Wait until the motor controller goes out and all the many other components. Batteries also don't like vibration or impact like from pot holes.
Not to mention the weather especially in Canada where we use crap loads of salt on the roads that will utterly corrode the electronics I don’t care how much weather proofing companies put into protecting the motors and other electrical components salt water will destroy it
@@randomtimes4100 salt will also corrode your engine and transmission if it gets inside of them but automakers have done a pretty good job of weatherproofing the inside of my car's fuel lines, engine, and transmission, so I think the real issue with salt is the frame of the car.
So all the OFF ROADERS are going to want a V8❗🤓👍
@@markplott4820 do you own a Tesla
@@randomtimes4100 Agreed, I am in New England US and does anyone really think that EV range at 20 below zero will be the same as the manufacturer specs? That is not even considering how much battery power it will take to keep the car heated to a comfortable temperature.
And even ANOTHER problem is there is not enough electric charging stations around the US. I will never get an electric car. My family saw a tesla explode just sitting in a parking lot. Thankfully the driver wasn't inside the car when it happened. Also, I love long distance travel and wouldn't like to have to constantly have to think about where the next charge station is located. No thank you electric cars. 😝
As an electrical engineer I am impressed by the accuracy of the content, keep it up!
how about this... After every one owns an electric car, where will the charging power come from? As it is, hot summer air conditioners overtax the grid ! Think about THAT ! Seems no one ever mentions this !!!!
@@marcelfortin7035 This will require building additional power plants and running the ones we have at higher capacity. It is only a temporary problem. The main issue with adding more power plants, is that they will most likely all be coal.
@@tonycable4560 if the public would just get over it’s fear of nuclear fission, then we could have all the needed power for such station.
@@crafterchief3812 Agreed!
@J Thompson agreed
Just discard the whole car and buy a muscle car
👍👍
Absolutely!!
My Tesla leaves most “Muscle Cars” in the dust.
@@RW-ur7ym maybe for a short distance, no style or soul sorry lol
@@RW-ur7ym congratulations 👍 and my car will outlive your tesla by 30 times
Love the new format! So informative, Scotty.
I just miss seeing Scottie’s eyes…
I like the waving hands talk better
What I have yet to see addressed, and it may be because of a lack of data, is how much more expensive an accident could potentially be. More precisely, how much more likely is it that the battery could be damaged to the point it would require replacement after an accident ?
Owners usually sell the batteries from wrecked evs. That's basically what the ev hot rod community lives on right now so I'd say that usually they're undamaged
I'm sticking too my 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee I'm getting ready to put in a new interior to last another 25 years. 👍❤🇺🇸
I miss my 94. Las time i saw it (over 15 years ago) it was at over 500,000k (that's over 300,000 miles) I bought a 2008 model and it was nowhere near the same vehicle. Would have kept it but it had other problems. That's life tho.
Thank You for your service Kenny if that’s your Pic of you! I wanted to ask if you have had any issues with your Jeep?
Team ZJ👊😎
What motor is in ur jeep I got the same year make and model
The problem is these cars are NOT DIY friendly. You cannot open the battery to replace the cooling nipple for example as Rich Rebuild showed on his channel. The a regular car you can replace a component without replacing the whole engine. An EV forces you to replace the whole battery or motor.
Now new cars are also a pain to repair now.
I still maintain that an old Camry is better.
BTW if you want an EV you don't need a $50k Tesla to get groceries or Starbucks. You can buy one of those street legal $2600 chinese EVs. They go maybe 30mph but if all you do is side streets who cares.
They also have a 2 stroke hydrogen implosion engine for that China brand EV.
If you have a Nissan Leaf the thing changes a lot! I have a 2012 Nissan Leaf and I do DIY maintenance. It’s easy! I’ve already changed two water pumps by myself!
This is true. It's gonna be closed system that we can't touch that much and it's pretty boring for DIYer.
@@somebodyinnobody i won't be surprised if they had tamper tags on the panels that void warranty.
@@jesuskingofkings Yes that's how you make an EV.
Battery is to insure product obsolescence: an EV is like a smartphone, you throw it out once the battery fails. Unlike a Duracell, you can't replace it yourself.
I replaced Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon and other save battery reliant games and such as a first "job" before being hired as a mechanic. Anything is repairable if you are capable enough and with EVs, it will be no different than a early mech. injected VW diesel (which I own two of and their data and method of timing was difficult info to obtain but I got them to run reliably), pre-1970 kick start only Harleys (my dad repaired and maintains one), Ford and VW engines in general, just to name a few! Even my dad asked me to, and I repaired, his "disposable" laptop when his screen broke in a bout between him and my brother over stupid stuff.
Well if we introduced the guaranteed right to repair for everything this would be less of an issue as independent shops or consumers could get access to parts and tools to fix them
Then you introduce new problems such as a foot in for legislation as in who could be authorized to repair such things. Such measures is what all but killed magneto repair, and almost wiped out mech. diesel injector pump repair. Usually you break more than you fix the problem with such an option. We already have people who repair or make all those fun toys without authorization anyway so just finding the proper "go-to" to keep them alive for you to keep playing with them is in the long run, the best choice. Case in point, I even help VW diesel folks with aidful advice to enjoy their VW toys as my dad does when inquired to provide info with such unique hardware he plays with. Mind, I took my diesel to a dozen "authorized" diesel mechanics and they replied with either "WTF is that?" or told me, frankly to "Go FVck Myself." If one has the inherent capability to repair it, then folks who can fix it will exist or come into existence.
Actually you can replace it yourself, there's videos on TH-cam of them being replaced by DIYer's. Including videos replacing bad cells to save money rather than the whole thing. Perhaps this doesn't apply to every single model of electric car but I'd imagine it applies to most, no need to fear monger.
@@ellisargamer9248 Replacing one cell in your battery pack is like changing one tire out of four in your car. Some people go for this cheaper solution without knowing they shortchanged themselves.
i bought an old transit van in 2010 for £720 and it was lpg gas converted with a range of 320 miles,no petrol the carb was knackered..anyway now done 240,000 miles on lpg but i had to have another engine that cost £300 and £300 to fit it...seems an economical way to own a vehicle
Scotty- The David Attenborough of vehicles- you are a living legend!!
Attenborough has went full greenie. His shows now push climate change caused by man.
@@samuelhowie4543 Well it’s the biggest threat to the ecosystem he’s spent his career showing us, so why wouldn’t he?
Sorry if it hurts your feelings bro
@@Colddirector lol.
No EV for me but as an alternative i like the concept of the Hydrogen fuel cell , WATER . Scotty has mentioned ( i think ) as an easy conversion .
Infrastructure. They would have to dig up all those fuel tanks at gas stations and install hydrogen tanks. Hydrogen is never going mainstream.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be great, if hydrogen was readily available in a pure form. At an atomic weight of 1 hydrogen binds with many elements. Hydrogen electrolysis from water requires more electricity than the energy that the hydrogen produces. The most common source of hydrogen is from steam-methane reforming from natural gas, but that is still costly, but much better than electrolysis from water. Perhaps a more efficient method of producing hydrogen will be produced. It might be that a cleaner fuel will be produced from abundant NG.
WHY turn water and electricity into Hydrogen and then back to electricity when you can use electricity strait in your EV. It only make sense in heavy industrial applications.
@@bossman6174 the only advantage a hydrogen vehicle has over an ev is that you don't need to wait a long time to recharge your car, you can do it in only 4to5 minutes
@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 But the cost of that is huge! saw a guy testing one of those in Canada, then i saw 46$ on the pump! then i knew hydrogen are done!
Good job , I learned more with this video than the entire day at the dealership.
Dealership....the word makes me want to take a shower....I NEVER want to walk into one of those again in my life !!!! Buy Tesla you never have to.....
That’s because the dealerships tell you what you want to hear and they want to take as much money off you as possible 😲
You go to a *dealership* ?
@@debmanning8298 becase your car bateries are ded and your waiting in line for 4 hour charge
Bursting into flames in your garage is a significant drawback. So too is the maintenance (battery replacement) after 10 years. Internal Combustion Engines are significantly easier to work on if you are moderately capable of doing anything mechanical. Whereas Electric Vehicles are engineered (by design) NOT to be user serviceable. When was the last time you replaced a non-replaceable battery in your phone? The real reasons for the push to electric: The government will be able to make significantly more in sales taxes if they can shorten the lifespan of the vehicles, AND the fact you have to have a domicile means they can control YOU and YOUR TRANSPORTATION. Time to get out of Komie Kalifornia!
MIght have missed it Scotty. But rapid charging stresses the battery too. As well as being very energy inefficient. Slow optimum charging at a proper ambient temperature is important.
Something Tesla has put a great deal of tech development into. It is the management of larger more complex battery packs which is advancing. Energy density and efficiency are not so much.
Excellent as usual. Thank you.
Scotty, how did you get to be so smart? You're my hero 💙. A friend of mine bought a Prius a few years ago and bragged about his gas mileage, blah blah. Then the batteries died..$7,000.00 to replace them. He got rid of the car. I laughed and told him I'll stick with my 93 Toyota Camry. No car payments and not much maintenance. 👌
A friend of mine had the same thing happen. One Prius was still going strong after several years, but the other required battery replacement after about five (right after the warranty was up I believe). He did the math and replacing it plus the depreciation meant it was a paperweight -- there wasn't a thing he could do with it, and no one in their right mind would buy it. But he was still a true believer, for some reason.
@@jdraven0890 My friend replaced his "dead" battery (only two cells were dead) with a refurbished for 1200 euros. He got 3 years warranty for the refurbished battery. The shop took his old "dead" battery, they will replace the faulty cells and they will sell it to somebody else with warranty. If you can't think for simple solutions... It's like I have a broken valve in my engine and you ask me to replace the whole engine and the drivetrain.
I find that hard to understand a Prius battery is NiMh (cheaper older tech than Li) and pretty small as well, even Toyota say it should cost $2600 to replace.
@@matthewisaac6895 ..I don't know Matthew..that's what my friend told me. He said underneath the whole back seat are multiple batteries. He sold the car because he couldn't afford to replace them. All I know is what he told me.
Funny we have two Prius’s the little 12 volt battery lasted 7 years and the main has never had issues. It’s a 2010. The other one is a 2014 and its
little battery was just changed after 7 years and the main has never had issues. Don’t know where they went for service but it doesn’t cost 7K to change them. I have even seen videos here on how to do it. By the way the car still runs without it being in good shape.
I think we have become so lazy that we are afraid to do anything ourselves. I still have a 90 Mustang that I do everything on it. Electric is just cars evolving, once gas really starts to become scarce you ain’t gonna have a choice, it will be too expensive. Humanity has to evolve to survive.
Just thought I'd share my EV maintenance experience (since you asked at the end of the video):
I drive a 2018 Tesla Model 3. Because I live in an area where the roads have more salt than the oceans, a yearly brake maintenance is required for me. This is due to the fact that I do 90% (or more) of my braking with regen. Combine that with the heavy salt use and it can cause the caliper sliders to seize up. This isn't required in most areas though.
Other than that, my only maintenance has been wiper blades, window washer fluid, and tire rotations. I replaced my own cabin air filters and I did just replace my tires after 28,000 miles.
Here is the full maintenance schedule for a Model 3 (copied from the owners manual):
Brake fluid health check every 2 years (replace if necessary).
A/C desiccant bag replacement every 6 years.
Cabin air filter replacement every 2 years.
Clean and lubricate brake calipers every year or 12,500 miles (20,000 km) if in an area where roads are salted during winter
Rotate tires every 6,250 miles (10,000 km) or if tread depth difference is 2/32 in (1.5 mm) or greater, whichever comes first
They used to have the battery coolant in there, but that was removed. Tesla now monitors the coolant in the pack for any issues and replaces as needed, but they expect the glycol coolant to last the life of the pack.
the ID3/4 has drum breakes that lower maintenance even further.
@@stefanweilhartner4415 If they even use them. I'm thinking it's the same as most EVs. The friction brakes are used maybe 10% of the time at most.
I suppose its up to the settings the drive uses on the ID3/4
@@Kuth70 yes, but the inside is protected from salt and water which minimizes rust and if you need them, they work instantly. that is the reason why the use drum breaks.
@@originalmicdrop This implies you know how long an EV battery lasts. I'm guessing that your information is wrong or based on old data.
EVs with poor thermal management like the Nissan Leaf had horrendous lifespans primarily because of the fact the battery was air cooled only.
The car I drive has a battery that is designed/projected to last 300,000 to 500,000 miles based on its chemistry and cooling/heating system.
All EVs made now use cooling/heating loops with a glycol solution that keeps the batteries at optimal tempuratures.
Additionally, future cars with different chemistries such as lithium iron phosphate, or nickel manganese silicon will have even longer lifespans.
Great unbiased video. Very refreshing. It would have been entertaining if you had mentioned the cost of replacing an EV battery out of warranty, which is NOT unheard of.
the cost of an ev battery is $4500.+ another thing not mentioned is if you need to work on any electrical part of the drive system you need 2 people, 1 to do the work, the other to safety watch as the large battery puts out 300+ volts DC and will kill you quickly. it does not throw you off like AC. wspeciqal saety equipment is required hemet, safety glasses, linemans gloves& more for 2. also a length of wood 2x2 for the safety person so they can push/pry the worker off the high voltage circuit & then call 911.
I’ve seen a Tesla car ( not sure which model) is $20,000USD and that’s about average. The minerals that are needed is in high demand and very expensive, this might change in time, but who knows. Changing a battery every 10 years is very expensive to me
As an experienced Ev owner, I think you hit key points and painted a reasonably accurate picture of Ev ownership related to them. Like in a lot of things, your choice of partner(manufacturers)can have a big impact on the overall experience though. Glad to see that you have retained your candor while delivering in your new style.
@@oddopops1327 but me personally it has to be the Tesla Model S for all rounder speed endurance and style it's built for the driver to enjoy not for the public that your passing who catch a glimpse of it, it's it has so many cool features that most don't offer at the price range and Tesla offer a lot of chargein stations even across Europe I think you should go view one before you make your mind up but I do like em
As an experienced EV owner, please tell us about recharge times.
@@Felled-angel Sure, I'll get right on it , Elon.
@@jimdavies6764 at home in the driveway or garage I charge overnight. On road trips 15-30 minutes depending on how much I need, usually those work out to be lunch stops or bio breaks.
@@jimdavies6764 And cost to recharge it. If it’s a 220V charger that’s like running a dryer for that long. The public charging stations might be free now but that won’t last.
Last week I drove 1200 miles to a couple of oil sites. These sites are located in northern Canada. Access is on gravel/ muddy roads. Guess what? No charging stations. I'll pass on EV's.
Good thing most people don’t need to drive to remote oil sites.
These cars aren't designed to go to remote sites like that. Not a car I would take on a long distance trip but wouldn't be bad as an everyday commuter to work and back. Only thing that would stop me from buying one is not knowing how long the battery will last. Up to 10 years isn't good enough for me.
But couldn't you just drop an extension cord down from the clouds to charge it? Hahahahahaha.
@@beachforestmountain4269 Silly---you tow a trailer with a gas powered generator. just sayn
What? Are you saying the infrastructure for a new technology that's been around for just over a decade isn't abundant? Who would've guessed that? /s
Can’t wait to see these cars operating efficiently in places like Edmonton Alberta Canada or the Yukon in the dead of winter
Yes, and don't forget the southwest....with battery killing temps, (even in shade), for an average of 5 months every year. I also noticed the retail cost of electricity vs gas is never mentioned...And the environmental cost of mining
raw materials for batteries as well as electricity production.
@@lukula2934 actually these concerns have been addressed many times. The extra C02 released from their production is offset within a few years of average driving even if the electricity comes from coal.
If you park it at Phoenix Sky Harbor in July and go on vacation for two weeks, will the cooling system kill the battery? Never saw one in Phoenix, but hypothetically.
@@lukula2934 funny, because I live in the south west and there are a ton of electric vehicles here. They don't seem to be breaking down in 40 degree heat.
Keep in mind that an electric car actually runs on coal...at least in Indiana....
2:35 *Tesla vehicle are the only car you can charge to 100% regularly with no problem unlike other vehicles not more than 80%. Also the Tesla model 3 which is the cheapest Tesla can run 272 miles on a 100% charge.*
You're always addressing trends and discussing them objectively. And you're not afraid to embrace new technology when it does its job well. Love your videos as always.
I really appreciate these documentary style videos, presenting by a no-nonsense expert like Scotty. I've learned so much from this guy.
"Expert" ?
@@x666x34b
Oh come on.
I didn't like him at first either
Got used to him and correctly bought a car with his insight.
If he's not an expert.....who is?
You learned things from his videos ? I remember learning before this bloody internet
Scotty isn't really an expert, he's just an old dude with a lot of free time and a lot of money, so he has time to play with tons of vehicles
How much CASH do the Oil Co, pay you Scotty
Hey Scotty, from Trinidad and Tobago very informative video as per usual Love how your doing historical/informative as well as DIY videos
The more you use the regenerative braking system, the less the friction brakes are used. That causes the rear brakes to rust faster, ending in them needing to be replaced long before they really need to be. I've seen this so many times on electric cars, and hybrids.
Yes! Was just about to say this, I'm a service manager and explaining this to ev owners is never an easy thing because they're promised low cost of maintenance but replacing 450 dollar brake jobs for each axle twice as much haha.
@@waynesmith6393 does batteries can stay working well after 100.000 miles
When Hurricane Irma hit Florida in 2017 people with Tesla's had to get rides from people with real cars when they left the state ahead of the storm. It took 18 hours to get from South Florida to get to Georgia with power out at various places along the way.
Ooh wow they last 10 years. The old piston engine in my Ford Escort is 21 years old and running just fine. I change oil regularly and flush the cooling system every couple of years. I call that low maintenance.
I *don't* change the oil or flush the cooling system in my Tesla. I call *that* low maintenance, Nancy.
@@x666x34b But what happens in 10 years, 20 years? Or 40 years like the Benz.....
The price of battery packs will continue to fall and reliability, capacity and longevity will increase over the next few years. Keep in mind that motors and battery packs can be swapped out much more easily.
Advancements with EV tech are happening at an increasing pace (as more companies jump into the market) - These are the early days of EV technology, this is the "worst" the technology will be....
I've got a horse in the garden, that still works as well.
@@JentonInternational But it emits methane
From Michigan, so electric vehicles won't work here well in the winter time. Which means gas vehicles have to stay for that reason.
Like always you’ll need a “winter beater”
@@steveholidayworld2346 dammit I was gonna say that
@@steveholidayworld2346
And a warm garage for your pampered Tesla
They’re the highest selling vehicle type in Norway.
@@nicholasthon973 That can't be possible because it's too cold over there.
Everything you just told me about electric vehicles convinces me more than ever that I do not want to own one.
Really?
Our BYD Atto3, EV, is excellent value, cheap to service, fuelled from solar power on our roof.
Respect and love to the one and only Mr. Scotty we know and we appreciate!
What a phonominal honesty in every video 👏🎊
There was a Tesla dealership down the street from where I used to live in Lyndhurst OH. I walked in one time to look at the cars and they didn’t really acknowledge my existence. I guess I wasn’t rich enough to even look at them much less test drive one. That’s ok a few years later my wife and I got a 2021 Toyota RAV4 and absolutely love it and the color, blue flame.
How does it go when you go to BMW or Audi?
Tyler So go back to Tesla in your new Toyota and walk around , but look disappointed in their " golf carts " and then leave ...
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@@pascalbruyere7108
Lol I only buy cars that I can maintain and will last for a long time that won’t cost me a an arm, a leg, and possibly my first born child
Tesla doesn't have dealerships. You schedule a test drive on line. Go to a location and they unlock the vehicle for you and off you go.
@@victorluke5816 I’m not sure how they do it in other states but here in Ohio they have a dealership 5180 Mayfield Rd, Lyndhurst, OH
Great presentation Scotty. Thank you for making and posting this. Lots of useful EV tips and easily digested information. Greetings from England.
I definitely concur. Electric cars will become so common that we will need to know more about them, in general. No one else is trying to make this information as accessible as Scotty.
I heard of a man who brought a brand new EV.
Lives in a climate the same as Michigan.
After 7 years he could not do his longest trip without adding stops to do extra top up charges. It had lost most of its Range.
It was considered "too rusty and worn" to justify the cost of battery replacement.
This was last year, so by about Feb it will be barely usable anymore.
Basically he said he could do a few small "in town errands"
but nothing beyond his city.
I have 4 years with an ev. 0 degradation so far
@@alexandrutudor9497 It handles the winter winds and snowstorms okay?
The guy I heard of lost the value in his because of body Rust
@@RetroCaptain very well. no issues whatsoever
I live in Alaska electric cars are basically for rich people who use them during our 2 month summer, designer cars for decor not practicality
I remember when I was an undergrad in Engineering. For a term paper I wrote that AC inductive motors should be used for vehicles such as trains and cars instead of DC motors now that power semiconductors are available. Everyone thought I was crazy as the speed of AC motors are tied to the frequency of the AC power. None the less, that's exactly what happened in the industry, even brushless DC motors are really AC motors with power electronic controls. My undergrad paper was at least a decade ahead of it's time and indeed the year after my paper, the city had an experimental LRT train with the University using AC motors under a power electronic inverter control exactly as I had described.
Funny, because when I was in High School, graduated in 1978, I said cars should have three motors/engines in them. One a larger gas powered engine for long trips. A second smaller electric motor for medium and short trips. And a third small single cylinder engine, think go cart, that could maintain a vehicle speed on long flat straight stretches hooked up to one wheel, and that could also be run to generate power to recharge the battery for the electric motor, either while the vehicle was in motion, or while parked at a restaurant, hotel or other. Yes, it would be heavy, and not a lot of storage, but certainly adequate for most people.
Remind us all again what company you are CEO of. I am in awe of your genius, Wang.
@@x666x34b A bright idea only benefits you in the right situation. It was just an undergrad term paper on electric motors. It didn't have the promotional value of say Alcubiere's graduate paper on the warp drive. It really wasn't something I could take advantage of.
If you want to talk about bright ideas. Back before I took grade 10 math which had trigonometry, I was fed up with forgetting my geometry set for Physics so I couldn't measure angles but it was obvious that there is a relationship between slope and angle and you could easily use a scrap of lined paper as a crude ruler to measure slope with so I started writing a program for my RadioShack programmable calculator to convert slope to angle. I was getting frustrated as I had to keep adding terms where the values deviated too much. Needless to say, such a relationship is the arctangent function and the relationship is an infinite series. Basically. I was working on developing trigonometry just because I kept forgetting my protractor. My physics teacher did ask what I was doing and then asked me if I knew what the trig buttons on my calculator were to which I said no that I didn't know what the buttons did, he just moved on after that as he was proctoring a test. When we finally did trigonometry in math class. I did a face plant on my desk.
In the fourth grade. I also wrote a SciFi short story where I had the jet powered by what I called a space jet. Of course, unknown to me at the time, the idea is the Bussard Ramjet, a rather famous proposal for an interstellar spaceship. A lot of people come up with bright ideas independently but few have the opportunity or timing to benefit and or become famous for them.
Railways have switched largely to AC motors due to their improved performance, so I was not surprised to learn that electric vehicles are doing the same.
@@richardhorlings3774 Yes, but when I wrote my undergrad paper, DC motors were used for variable speed control as the speed of ac motors are determined by the frequency of the AC power and how many poles the wiring is using hence speed control were in unit steps of multiples of the frequency with magnetic slippage between which really messes with your torque as well as heat production. My paper was that with the then new power semiconductors, the AC motors could be controlled through variable frequency AC power from inverters which is exactly what happened. The focus of the paper was to propose using AC motors for trains. AC motors had always been more reliable and had less maintenance then commutator DC motors but variable control had always been the problem with their use and this all changed with power electronics. I also pointed out that AC power transmission also had far less energy losses and required less conductors but at that time, frequency changes were done with motor generator sets and I was proposing that too could be replaced with power electronics. Given that power electronics were largely inefficient at that time, my claims were quite bold.
Scotty's the World's best mechanic
I'll stick with an IC engine. The reasons are too many to list.
range
Being poor and stupid is up there
@@DrakeDealer man,no need to expose yourself
@@DrakeDealer that aint nice, nor is it true. there are higher cost of insurance, lower resale value, home electric wiring upgrade costs, what if you park in the street, time spent at super charging stations, harder and more expensive to get specialty parts/repairs, some areas of the country dont have dealers or certified service techs for hundreds of miles, the upfront price difference, if you drive a lot daily
It's only because the infrastructure supporting ICEs make it convenient. If the push to mainstream EVs succeed, it's only a function of time when gas stations gets less common and now ICE drivers suffer from range anxiety instead
The only reason for EV’s holding their price recently is down to supply issues affecting the new car market. The big elephant in the room is battery longevity. Batteries don’t last forever. My phone is only a few years old and already holds less charge than new. As a car battery deteriorates the vale will plummet. The battery is the major cost in these vehicles and replacement will be prohibitively expensive. You would have to be insane to buy an older EV. They are essentially a chuck away item presenting a recycling nightmare. Car manufacturers are milking this inferior tech prior to launching the far more sustainable Hydrogen tech as tested successfully in California many years ago then shelved in order to profit from the questionable impractical Electric options prior to unleashing Hydrogen. (Think Cassette tapes vs CDs) Don’t be fooled buyer beware!
Interesting, but I plan to keep driving and repairing my '99 Buick for a long time before trusting all this new EV technology.
I think you are right too. Once the battery technology is better and more proven, I’ll make the switch. Electric motors are fantastic, much less maintenance, better torque, way more efficient and much cheaper to own overall if you forget the battery costs
@@josephsallis2808 I remember a time when Americans where the the leading edge of technology. It looks like most are no longer forward thinkers and settle. They don’t even look at facts but go by misconceptions. I’m 68 and I’ve seen lots of changes but now people want to keep the old even when they know what comes out the tailpipe is poison.
@@jonfscott you’ve also seen early adaptations fail. And I think you will see attitudes change as the price drops, charging infrastructure improved and the batteries get better. It is moving fast. And if General Motors is the first to develop the million mile battery, they might win. Don’t forget Tesla is an American company.
I agree but do not see GM surviving. Their debt is way to high. Yes Tesla is an American company but too many fossil fuel industries keep the FUD going. I do see a bright future for Tesla.😎
@@josephsallis2808 I dont know US, but in Europe government has huge tax income from petrol and diesel fuel sales....so they will tax EV fuel as well or they have to come up with new taxes just to have the same income. The only reason you dont pay extra for the electricity for your car yet is they want you to make the change.
Thank you for this information Scotty and your honesty all these years and perhaps I can share my experience.
I have two electric cars for me and my wife we run these guys for three years 50,000 miles so far we don't have any big repairs but we replace the tires in both cars looks like ectric cars wear out the tires way faster also the tires are more expensive because they have to be lower assistant or ultra-high-performance but that's it we charge our cars at home overnight when is cheaper overall the maintenence in electric car is simple and way cheaper
Do you think, I can go for a ev over a gas car?
how much crude oil does it take to make the tires???...
@@dilakshandk77 at the end of the day oil will run out electric wont forget prices, maybe oil wont run out in this life time but it will eventually
@@miscool You do realize electricity does not grow on trees, right? Unless a country goes to, or back to, nuclear, EV's will still require fossil fuels.
EVs also wrigh around 500 Kg more than an ICE car, so the tyres will always wear out quicker
You want an electric car that'll go a long way ? Install bicycle pedals. You might hear "Are we there yet ?" more often though.
You could always connect the car to a horse, so instead of a 'horse & CARt', it will be a 'horse & CAR'. Just be sure to carry some hay and water in the trunk for when the poor horse gets hungry and thirsty. That's true HORSEpower.
@@beachforestmountain4269 Endless money pit
@John Doe A cork will solve that problem.
@John Doe hahahaha
@John Doe Haha, couldn't the horse just expand like a balloon?
As soon as i saw an article about that doctor and father died in his electric car after it crashed and the resulting fire burned through the electronics and locked the doors permanently with him inside
I've heard Challenger owners talk about needing to replace tires. Fun costs rubber.
I had to replace the back tires on my '65 GTO every couple months. Just terrible.
I have heard a lot more than talking about replacing it. I have heard them complain. But the challenger is a powerful car. The electic cars are heavy cars so they will go through a lot of tyre wear also.
@@stevet8121 How much would that typically run you Steve?
@@FalconFlight747 About $30 each if I remember right. I do remember I bought 2 rear tires from JC Penny one time. They had a guaranteed mileage. I came back about a month later and showed them they were almost bald. The manager said abusing the tire didn't count. I couldn't argue that. I finally grew up and started being more responsible.
@@stevet8121 for $30 a tire you can’t really expect anything special. They last longer on a regular cheap car
The question i think a lot of people are left with is. How sustainable is the batteries for these vehicles? do we have the resources?
The use rare earth minerals so what do you think 🤷♂️
Lithium mining is a highly polluting industry.
Majority of Lithium is in third world countries
China controls majority of mining industries .
I rest my case
@@TheGecko213 now you know why China was so nice to Africa last 15 years
@@p2p104
China has captured most of the Lithium and rare earth mines all over the world .
By depending on EV vehicles , we will be slaves to China in place of the oil companies .
Second time I've heard 'range anxiety' mentioned in conjunction with EVs. Wouldn't that also be described as 'premature discharge'?
I've been suffering from 'range anxiety' all my life.
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so it doesn’t work in the hot it doesn’t work in the cold it’s can't tow anything, it takes hours to fill up the tank to get going again and depreciates like a Stone dropped off a cliff.. Where can I get one?
It's good to have a choice, but realize everything is a novelty in the beginning... until the shine wears off the gingerbread. As for me, I'll stick with what I know best and that's a gasoline internal combustion engine. Stop at a gas station, fill her up and go... is the way to go.
While everyone is going to be waiting 20 mins plus for their electric cars to fill up not even fully charged too
I’m going to be taking 45 seconds to fill up my tank of gas
And not to mention that slaves mostly children are the ones mining the material we use for batteries and things
No wonder our governments want ev’s so much
Electric cars are here the last 100 years.
Never mentions the exotic materials used in the batteries and their disposal.
That's because those materials are 100% recoverable to be used in New batteries, and the thriving aftermarket uses for batteries no longer healthy enough for automotive use but still viable for energy storage for homes etc.
These Materials you speak of make up less than 1% of the battery.
@@MrAndrew941 Nope they make up darn near 100% of the battery. The batteries are almost entirely recyclable. Look buy an electric or not it doesn't matter. Much like the farriers that nay sayed those new fangled horseless carriages electric cars will become the norm.
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But how much will it cost me as a car owner? I.e. my gas car is still cheaper to run from new than an EV, what will be in place for making these EV batts affordable and replaceable?
@@ChillyDippers Not where I live. We lose power too often due to storms. 10 years ago we lost power for 21 days straight. What are going to do what that occurs? You are going die that's what.. Just this winter we lost power on 4 occasions. Once for almost a week another time for 4 days another time for 2 days and recently for almost 1 day. I live in Kentucky and our power lines are above ground and we deal with ice storms and when we have heavy winds it can easily uproot trees due to the clay deposits. City folk will own them but the rest of will never own one because it would become a lawn ornament during the winter and when we have bad storms. It is absolutely impossible for us to go EV. No one is going to redo our entire electrical grid. They made that abundantly clear so we own generators and propane and ICE's and we always have cash on hand in the event of power outages.
Think I will stick to hybrids and regular cars like my Lexus 400. Never felt the need to ever switch since it just always runs well and has lots of room. Maybe one day I will get a new hybrid of some sort. As always great video Scotty answering more questions that I had.👍👍
thats why the Fed just mandated that a major percentage of new cars will be all electric by 2030. You will be MADE to care.
Hybrids are the worst of both worlds. Seriously electric is the future and Tesla is leading the way. Sold 500k in 2020 without spending any money on advertising. I seriously doubt that people would be buying if it wasn’t a great experience. Tesla = innovation. Currently driving a Toyota Tacoma and eagerly awaiting the Cybertruck. Who doesn’t want stronger body panels, glass, dynamic air suspension, 110/220 outlets, pneumatic air, built in tailgate ramp, 6.5 foot stainless steel bed and 57” wide without wheel wells.
@@Frank_W. Well said. But be careful, Scotty (likely paid for by GM and the others) is trying to manipulate people into thinking EV's, especially Tesla's, are too expensive, have range issues, are slow, have no resale and so forth. That is true for most other EV.'s but the complete opposite for Teslas. As I read many comments, it seems many believe him or still don't know.
@@Frank_W. The Japanese are way ahead of the game. Hydrogen cars are greener and the first ones will be released soon. A single solar cell can produce 125 litres of hydrogen a day. The infrastructure in the UK is not geared for millions of electric cars, and neither are US cities I expect. Plus the cost of these vehicles is astronomical. Worst of all by 2030 the UK will need to burie around 20 million tons of these batteries as they can't be recycled.
@@Clem_Fandango11 How many hydrogen charging stations are around where you live? Electric is everywhere and 92% of Tesla batteries will be able to be recycled so clearly you are not following very closely. JB Straubel who is former Tesla has started Redwood Materials recycling. Way ahead of the game….Toyota?! That’s laughable since they have been kicking and screaming about this electric transition. Full disclosure…I drive a Toyota and waiting on Cybertruck.
Good video watch again later in same app. Edward Gary Hauser here nice review Scott Kilmer! I enjoyed it and am reviewing it again and again all over again worth wile every little detail is so important and needs to be keep inside my brain.
Just make sure you have a gas powered generator in the trunk in case your battery runs out of juice.
Scotty delivering the goods. I'll happily keep driving gas cars, thank you!
Wait until Presidick Bitn & wacko cronies run gas up near $10 per gallon. For our protection of the "environment".
Yeah, I'll stick to my gas Toyota Tundra/4runner. If the new Hybrid Tundra has good power, I'll upgrade to a hybrid..
Waiting for that diesel hybrid to get one for my dad. He still has his ‘95 Toyota pickup still trucking.
I have a 1994 Toyota Pickup. I drive it every day.
What I find disappointing is the conversions. The dozen or so videos that I've seen are darn near $30,000 and a ton of labor. Some of the videos don't mention the cost at all. There's apparently no options for a low buck ev project. Another great informative video,Scotty.
you can do it as cheap as a couple grand, what are you on
@@Everything13ish a couple grand isn't cheap at all when you can take the fuel powered counter part and repair it for hundreds
@@cubandaddy8351 you think you wont spend a couple grand on a gas engine/trans every 10 years. including gas.
I saw a conversion kit today on alli express that was $548 US . Unfortunately delivery to the US is prohibited for some reason.
I have a first generation Chevy Volt 2012 125k miles. So far it needed oil changes (has generator engine) , tires, brakes, wheel bearings, struts, shocks, and coolant flush. Thats it. I did most of the maintenance myself. Coolant must be replaced every 5 years for $400 at dealer. Battery is still getting near or the same amount of range. Not bad in my opinion. Online data shows cars with 200k+ miles.
Thank you for making these videos because they generally answer my questions. I respect the work ethic and keep going scotty :)
Glad to see Scotty has come around to EV's. I'm a total petrol head who builds sport kits cars but got a leaf as my daily driver and simply wish I'd got one ten years ago. Yeah my brakes don't seem to be wearing at all, despite my less than efficient driving. Plus the wheels never have any brake dust so the wheels are always spotless. It's definitely more aggressive on the tyres due to the torque, meaning I need to select ECO mode to stop it spinning it's wheels in the wet. The battery has degraded at a rate of 1% per year (checking with Leafspy) so is not even a consideration. I've owned 34 petrol and diesel cars before this one and none come even close to how much I enjoy driving my EV.
Who said he’s coming around? He’s just stating the facts on these pieces of crap. By the way, if you gain more joy from driving a glorified golf cart, you were never a true petrol head.
@@LateNightCable Well said. EVs are a reality, but they are soulless crap.
they are bags of shite these evs theyl never sell as long as we have petrol and deisel
EVs have their advantages and disadvantages. He's using it as a daily commuter which is exactly what it's intended for. Nothing wrong with that. Save on fuel costs (LGB), more efficient with its energy usage, and get some fun from sloppy driving on the side streets.
How about cold climate ... truck towing ... and ability to charge? .. And EV's are getting subsidies and who pays for that? and overall price EV"S .. not yet there for me!
Interesting, battery life about 10 years. What will be done with all that waste, what's the toxic reintroduction costs to our environment ? Millions of tons of spent batteries...100 % recyclable with no toxicity ?
But the lie is that battery life is infinite. Check out "experiences" and the fan boy forums are full of stories where a Tesla (Panasonic battery) battery has never degraded more than 7%.
EXACTLY! Not to mention all the slave labor used to mine for the colbalt to make the tesla batteries.
@@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel That wont be as much of a problem now that we gave Afghanistan to china.
Not to mention the limited quantities of lithium, cobalt, and nickel. We forget all the land destruction (mining) it takes to get it out of the ground and energy (refining) of the metals for battery production.
It is my understanding that mining for new battery materials will decrease drastically (eventually) as used batteries are retired and those materials are reclaimed to build new batteries.
I like this somewhat subdued Scotty. Very relaxing narration.
Most EV's use liquid cooled thermal management to keep batteries at an optimal temperature. This means that your EV may use a few miles of range keeping the components cool when you are not driving, but it will not significantly affect the longevity of the car (the Nissan Leaf is the anomaly as it uses air cooled batteries). Most EV's will have ther brake pads last 100k-200k miles.
@@jack99889988 You should tell that to all 56,000 of those people up in Sweden who have purchased electric cars and now make up over 50% of all cars sold there. They don't seem to be having the problems you seem to think happen.
@@jack99889988 heard of a garage for storing vehicles?
@@Aircam73 Same in Canada. A friend of mine has a 2007 Toyota Hybrid that hasn't cost him a penny other than tires
@@jack99889988 actually no....not anywhere where it actually gets that cold in the winter. unheated maybe but not completely uninsulated.
@@jack99889988 The point is it is cold in Sweden and the EVs run just fine. There are even whole TH-cam channels dedicated to it such as Bjørn Nyland. He takes these EVs and actually camps in them in -36C temperatures. Something you can't do in an ICE as you would DIE.