Bascially, it;s evey time United suffer. That's when Keano blows the f up. I'm relishing this United downfall even more than barca at the moment. £ can only get you so much quality.
Just found a copy of the script... Keane: "Ronaldo was never gonna win them the league!" Carragher: "So what's he here for?!" Keane: "Trophies!" (Repeat 10 times, with increasing volume)
Glad Keane brought up ‘do you think Rashford pressed today’. They seem so hyper focused on Ronaldo they forget all the other non pressing players in the team who seem to get free passes.
Rashford looked disinterested for the whole game. He couldn't be bothered to close down anyone. He was embarassing today and has been for a long time tbh
Honestly I still remember when this was such a Prestigious cup, it was up their with the division 1 title in terms of prestige back in the day. Now it’s just a cup to let the kids run around, not a bad thing I suppose get youngsters some game time and experiences.
@@mimo-bine I'm not sure what you don't get. The FA Cup isn't nearly as highly regarded as it used to be. Hence OP's comment which mocks Keane's comment about Ronaldo going to United to win the FA Cup. 25-30 years ago, the FA Cup final was a huge day at the end of the English football season. Winning it was just as prestigious as winning the league, but now it doesn't come close.
As a Chelsea fan I was very happy Cr7 wasn't starting and I think Keane is right, who would bench a world class super star in one of the most critical games of the seasons away from home playing with one of the best and well organised team that is really hard to break.
@@arkane5260 Of course he does mate. Carra was saying why buy a 36 year old, pay him 500 grand a week just to win an FA cup? You Roy Keane fan boys are getting silly now.
This will go down in history as the greatest football debate ever, from the whole Irish to Scouse back and forth heated argument which hardly anyone outside of the UK could even understand, to the pat on Roy’s leg at the end with “time to go”🤣
I'm in Canada and understood it all. Although I admit if they wanted to have fun and lay the accent on thick I wouldn't stand a chance, heh. As for the debate, both make valid points. Carragher is not wrong when he says that keeping Sancho on the bench will stunt his growth. Roy too is correct when he asks why did they buy Ron again if not play him.
Sky made fantastic football signings with Keane and Carragher. It's a pity the players on the pitch don't have the passion of the two lads in the studio😄
The gesticulating & raising of the voices is from the passion. The new generation is more interested in wearing dresses and handbags for fashion & instagram than they are for actually winning anything.
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
Agree with Roy. Ronaldo needs to start the big games, you rest him against lesser teams if you must. Man Utd SHOULD have enough against the bottom half teams to rest Ronaldo if needed but he COULD and likely WOULD be the difference maker against the other big teams. He can't do that if he's on the bench for 70 mins, game is about winning and scoring goals and he does that. He's not going to press and as Roy says you must take that into account if you play him, when Ole said Rashford must concentrate on football rather than politics perhaps he felt he wasn't doing the leg work required for the guy who partners Ronaldo?. That's the key element here - Ronaldo is the star player at Utd so others (his strike partner especially) must fit around his game to a certain degree.
Ronaldo needs to play the lesser teams to train the muscles the mind and have games. Bringing him in only to fight the tough games is simply abuse. Imagine only fighting Mike Tyson only and never sparing lesser boxers. When do you test your craft and try things out for the big games. You ask ronAldo do you want to start today. ronAldo in in a different league to others. That's fact. ronAldo wants to do well and doing well does the team well. It goes hand in hand. You don't use Ronaldo for your method, you can't use LIONS. LIONS TELL YOU. ❤️
It is the weaker teams that Man Utd struggled against. They are the games Ronaldo could turn from draws to wins. Against Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool you need everyone pressing all the time. He alters the tactics you can use.
You play Ronaldo against "big teams" in the Prem, and you are effectively playing with 10 men. He can grab a goal from nothing, no doubt, but that is rarely going to win you a game against City, Liverpool or Chelsea because they will blow you away, and right now probably wouldn't even consistently get you the win at West Ham or one or two others. United are playing for Europa League places at best if they can't work out how to get the best from Ronaldo.
Other way round: against the big teams you need everyone pressing. Against the weaker teams Ronaldo can score to assure wins and that’s where they struggled last season.
Absolutely. Some pundits talk absolute rubbish. Play him as much as possible, one of the best players ever to play the game. He's the top performer at UTD.
This is why Sky Sports football presentation and punditry is a cut above in this country. They let it flow. 6 minutes without a single interruption from the presenter. Camera didn’t even change. They ‘let the game play’ so to speak. Also, Carra is right. 😉🎣
I get jimmy's point. He's just saying bringing cr7 back will hinder the growth of youngsters such as sancho and greenwood and etc while not making united a PL winning team. Thats just me.
I can hear this point but even this far Ronaldo has saved United from loses on a few occasions ( not including pens). He fights till the end and these youngsters have the talent but could do with his desire
Shows how sticky of a situation this is when everyone pretty much agrees with the both of them. Love how passionate both Roy and Carragher get. Also just Hasslebank probably the most chilled man out there just sitting there haha
He looks like his wife and mum are having an argument and taking either's side is going to mean either sleeping on the sofa for a week or not being invited over for Christmas.
@@dujon06 Honest to God, while club rivalry is great and you're of course gonna joke about United as a Liverpool fan, I feel sorry for them. Seeing such a rich club sink is sad as a football fan in general. Like Keane said, they need to impose their character and determination in the game. You don't know what you're gonna get with players like Shaw, Maguire, Fred, etc.
Dave Jones patting Roy’s leg at the end and saying “it’s time to go” like a Dad taking his son home when you’re just in the middle of an argument with your mate🤣🤣
I like that we keep it real. Perfectly acceptable discussion and the reason why i'm excited for the post analysis on sky. With Roy, it's always 100% commitment.
@@julianbanks1885 there are some truths in his argument. United are way off the mark achieving the consistency of the leading three, the remaining cup runs are the lowest hanging fruits for this season.
@@chosen___one But he said that United signed Ronaldo to win cups which is not true at all. United finished second in the league last season and signed Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho, and are currently lurking in the 8th position. United made these signings so they could cover up the gap between themselves and City and they have fallen.
@@julianbanks1885 overrated season last year..of course got no 2 in the league but overall man united still struggling..3 years never past ucl group stage, no trophy, at least this season man u got chance to win ucl or cup
@@johndover3594 Stop writing nonsense. Manchester United hired Ronaldo not to go to Manchester City. Ronaldo still scores you 40 to 50 goals per season. Players only sell jerseys are those who are already downhill like Eden Hazard.
This is why I love watching Sky Football Analysis. You get class arguments between Keane, Neville and Carragher and even Micah from time to time like this. Love to see it
@@jacejohnson7113Coverage too, there was a weekend a few years back when United played Liverpool in a meaningless league match, and City played Chelsea in a cup final. United and Liverpool got all the build up, along with the '3 commentator' treatment, and the CUP FINAL got the B team, Jamie Rednapp and someone else if I remember correctly.
We do not deserve Roy Keane, he is absolutely class week in week out. Passionate about his former club, but doesn’t shy away from the truth. This was some of his finest work 😂😂😂😂
Going to have to agree with Jamie here. What is the point of United signing Ronaldo if they aren’t going to win the league? Just an FA cup? You think Ronnie would be happy with just that
@@rayu2794 Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
@@rayu2794 how is he wrong? You don’t sign Ronaldo not to win the league because he is a ruthless winner and that’s the only reason he would of came to United because he believed they can challenge for the title.
How is Jammie right? Why Man City the best pressing team didnt win UCL? for 6 to 7 years they are trying. But RM wins it 3 time and CR7 the main man with 15 goals avrg. You dont need a person like him to press he delivers when it matters and pump in the extra effort when it required. This Pressing mania is pathetic!! you dont need more than 8 players to defend a goal if those 8 players are good enough and to say need cr7 to press is absolute rubbish!!
@@4cricket24 "Why Man City the best pressing team didnt win UCL? for 6 to 7 years they are trying. But RM wins it 3 time and CR7 the main man with 15 goals avrg." Because the Champions League is a cup competition. Winning a cup competition involves far more luck than a league. City are doing things right. They'll win a CL eventually because of that.
"There was never a plan to re-sign him." That's it! Ronaldo was re-signed by circumstance, not based on a plan. It's not his fault that United are struggling, he's not responsible for any of it. However, if you take the risk of re-signing a 36 year old world class player, you've got to have a clear plan on how he'll immediately win you as many trophies as possible. Unfortunately, United's coaching staff don't have the slightest clue on how to integrate him properly on what they had already built, hence Ole got the sack!
Spot on. The team was built around a 10 which is why Bruno was able to hit the ground running, to change that without even a pre season to work on it caused all sorts of issues
@@SierraKilo91 That's because while Man Utd had players like Ronaldo, Cantona, and Stam, Liverpool had Bruno Cheyrou, Igor Biscan, and Djimi Traore. Carragher could have been an all time great in the right team, up there with the Milan defenders of the 80s and 90s. A lot of life is just luck, Carragher had a top mentality and was a top defender who was very close to Terry in terms of solidity and did for Liverpool what Keane did for Utd. Your kind of thinking is why some people think Scholes is equal to or better than Gerrard. You probably never watched the lad play, he could pass the ball well but couldn't run, couldn't tackle, was regularly substitued because he had asthyma etc. It's like comparing Henderson to Declan Rice, or Kane to Lewandowski. Luck and circumstances plays a massive role in life and being in the right place at the right time decides the course of history. Even if Carragher doesn't have a league title, they each have a Champions League: because Ferguson couldn't do to UEFA what he did to the FA, among other reasons...
I can see where both of them are coming from tbf. Keane is definitely right that Ronaldo should be starting against teams like Chelsea, you don’t bench someone like that in such an important game. At the same time though Jamie definitely has some good points too that Ronaldo’s been brought back so Man United can win the league, they came second last year and want first and you’re not gonna bring in players like Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho unless you want to win anything and everything that pops up with the league being the primary goal. Either way this is gold 😂
💯💯 The fact is we have been here before when we had Zlatan. Weren't gonna win the league, zlatan scored goals but one out of Rashford/Martial was always benched. Now its Ronaldo scoring goals with one out of Sancho/Greenwood always benched. That season with zlatan we won trophies like keane is saying could happen with Ronaldo this season but Carrager is saying that in the long term it didnt getus anywhere as we never really got close to winning the league and Rashford nor Martial can play as a 9 properly now. Same way Greenwood could end up not being a proper 9 as he never gets to play there. (Reminds me of Martial) 🤔🤔
ronaldo has helped to make the team dysfunctional though. the team needs to learn how to properly play without ronaldo. the 36 year old guy can’t be running for 90 minutes each game. i think it makes perfect sense
@@previnn8872 "that's his job!" Literally, his job. To start and debate the topic. The ability to play devils advocate and argue a point you don't necessarily believe is a very valuable skill. And is what makes him good at the job.
@@previnn8872 He does that sometimes but he definitely believes what he is saying here. He's said it a lot. That Ronaldo is good but you sacrifice the team for him etc. And that United aren't close to the league. It's all true lol
Poor Roy couldn't stop messing up in this one. He's that stubborn uncle at the Christmas family dinner. Says nothing interesting, but at least it's entertaining.
5:52 the 'oooh' from Carragher 😂revisiting in August 2022 - Ronaldo has spent the whole summer trying to force a move, no club wants him and he even left a pre-season game early to avoid the traffic.
Even i dont agree but what he mean is ronaldo alone not gonna win you a league. He knows when your starter is maguire - fred - bissaka - shaw - mctominy you ain't winning it if you have doubts go watch his debate after city game you will get it
None of the team press. They pretend to press and give up after 5 seconds then just sit off and camp 11 behind the ball On 25 minutes the possession stats were Chelsea 82% Man Utd 18% That can't happen if you know how to press. Utds players are frauds 20th in the league for tackles and 19th for recoveries is an embarrassment The longest time man utd had the ball in the 1st half was 21 seconds. Chelsea had the ball for 3+ minutes on 7 different occasions
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
It's not just pressing. It's also making runs to create space for your teammates, dropping deeper to help in the build up to attacks. We all know Ronaldo can still finish, but he's lost nearly all the other aspects of his game (which is understandable considering his age). If he was as good a team player as some people claim he still is, how on earth have United gone from 2nd to 9th?
I understand both but if you’re a club who finished second last year, what’s the aim for this year? Signing ronaldo and varane was to bring united back to their best, and win titles not cups
They was lucky to finish 2nd tbf as Liverpool and Chelsea had a poor start to last season, and it was a one horse race as Man City cleared the league 20pts from 2nd
That 2nd is so out of context. Liverpool were hindered, Chelsea had a bad first half then won the CL, and City are the best. They are the 4th best team objectively.
I agree u need to capitalise on that But coaching and management is very poor U can’t go in a game with 3 defensive midfielder while its a important game to win
Jamie carragher disagreeing with Keane is like a son finally stepping up to his father and saying "dad, capitalism has failed society, democratic socialism is how we create a fair society"
There was nothing entertaining about the match honestly. I almost died of a heart attack with the way Chelsea dealt with us. We could have left that stadium with 6 to 0. I am rather glad the suffering ended. Chelsea really are something. But we are improving defensively. our attack should be the next place of concentration. We will triumph, just not against these top teams at the moment😅. They are on a different level for now. My butt is still sweating from all the tension I was under. We barely left our half. Trust me, we shouldn't have even scored in this game, that ball from jorginho was a "giveaway", everything else in terms of goals for us was a disaster. Even Ronaldo only touched the ball 6 times in his entire 36 minutes play. 4 of the touches were passes in our half, 2 of which failed. and the other 2 touches were failed dribbles, you can understand his frustration. My soul left me for the entire 96 minutes. When the referee blew, he put an end to my mystery. Man u. We are the best please, or at least we are among the best. We can do better. Please
Carragher's point: Because man united finished 2nd last season, signing Ronaldo would mean they would have challenged for the title this season, because they have a proper goal scorer. I do agree with Carragher, if Man United improved from last season, with Ronaldo in the team, they would have won the league.
Carra does make a lot of great points about the team needing to win right now. But I do think Keano also makes a good point that ronaldo HAS to be playing in the big games. He lives for those games. and forget that 'oh he doesnt press' that one player exists for practically every club. Ronaldo is the most clutch player oat, he simply has to be playing these games.
But he played in the big games against City and Liverpool and Utd got destroyed. Today they looked more compact, solid and controlled. And they got a point from Chelsea, who are flying at the moment. Any team in the league would be happy with a point at Stamford Bridge.
Ok then messi should be not play against big teams like Liverpool Bayern because he doesn't press then why messi and Ronaldo are in the team because they are goat 🐐🐐 and they are big game player .and against chealsa tell me what rashford did that Ronaldo can't . rashford doesn't press as well and he was in team only for his speed on break .
I see both point of views. I agree with Keane when it comes down to Ronaldo doesnt press as that is not his style but yet he still delivers goals. I agree with Carragher in terms of signing Ronaldo and Varane players who have won champions leagues amongst other trophies, United should be aiming alot more higher than FA Cup such as going for the league especially United came 2nd last year.
Then why manunited kept ole despite bottling the uel finals and all other cup matches...they should have sacked him immediately and should have gone for other manager options ..Ole played for draws despite other PL teams were average last season
@@ashton7615 you make it sound like Man utd had options to replace them. No world class manager wants to go near old Trafford for years. They've seen how Moyes and Mourinho were treated and don't want anything to do with them
@@ajorngjdonaydbr Conte was available, Pochettino was available, Tuchel was available but United slept on their chances and got to a situation where they had to keep Ole and then when they couldn't anymore their only option was Rangnick. Rangnick isn't really someone who is going to deliver trophies but he'll make the team play a lot better most likely their best manager since Ferguson.
@@ajorngjdonaydbr It was our useless board we don't have a elite trophy after post Fergie...The rangnick appointment is one good thing the board done after all these years..Signing ten hag over poch in summer will be a great move imo..
Carra is spot on. Everyone was thinking Man utd were title contenders after Ronaldo's signing. Gary Neville even said it himself. But the fact that they are nowhere close to where we all expected them to be shows signing Ronaldo was not the solution. But none of the ex Man utd players will admit that Ronaldo was a pointless signing in terms of club progress.
Carra is so wrong, but to win right now, was bad timing when Ronaldo came in when Man Utd struggling for 8 years. You think they gonna be champions in 3 years ? No, Keane was right all along. Compare to Messi and Ronaldo, is Messi doing fine but lack chemistry.
Progress????i know a "progress" he done for the club,without his goals in his 1st season they would have finished the league in 14th and in the Champions League they would have been be eliminated in the group stage,with his 5 goals in 6 games they went through. In 2 seasons Rashford has more 3 goals than Ronaldo...that would be amazing if Ronaldo didnt left 7 months ago. I dont know if it progress or not,what i know is that he helped the club to not be a bigger joke than it is for the last years.
Roy was a hypocrite in the post carrick interview but he’s right here. If you have 9 out of 10 players pressing and defending as a team you can have one exception if the exception is by far your best goal scorer and one of the best goal scorers ever
It is the only point really worth making and could be used to explain everything Man Utd for the last decade. They are now a corporation, not a football club, owned by people who are not interested in or capable of creating a football club in the traditional sense. They are capable of managing a corporation and maximising profit. That's it, that explains basically everything, from throwing money at ineffective signings for years, to vanity signings to stop Man City buying the player they end up ruining.
Lol the fans are coming around Many are happy with how they set up yesterday and the point they got by the grace of God They're finally accepting that against the big boys the need to become Burnley and hold on for dear life
Jamie’s definitely got a point after United finished 2nd most United fans expected them to challenge if not win the league after signing the players they have, they’ve been a joke since the start of the season and I feel sorry for Ronaldo, being made to look like it’s his fault that the team are performing poorly when he’s arguably their best player, yeah he wanted to win a trophy at United but they’re miles away from achieving that and he’ll probably be gone in the summer.
This is the definition of 'heated debate' 👀🍿Is this our most HEATED debate ever?!?!
lool
Definition of a ratio
I beat you to it lol
LOL
Lmao
Whoever decided to hire Keane for sky sports deserves a raise. He's gold
Which ex player hasn’t been a pundit at this point
Calm down it's a debate. Happens in places all the time it's no different just because it's on TV... Jeez
@@steventhompson2511 Well, it's on TV, which makes it different to a debate in other places.
@@steventhompson2511 think you need to calm down. Was you rejected by sky or something 🤣
@@jrobs1133 🤣🤣🤣
Feel sorry for Ronaldo, he went from 36 to 37 in the course of an interview!
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He's on the wrong side of 36
We all aged another year or two watching this
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Hahahahah
Keane defends his club better than their own starting back line does now….
Keane defended his mate ole a lot.
Crictised carrick more here than he ever did ole
Mainly Everything facts
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@@Mainlyeverything that's because carrick is an absolute walley
He is a hypocrite
2:45 The way Carragher nods his head at Hasselbaink waiting for him to stop talking before resuming his argument with Keane is jokes 🤣
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Looool i can't stop laughing now
@@aaronflavien play at 1.75 that was more funny
Hasselbaink was so far up keane’s ass it was embarrassing
hahaha
That was probably the most HEATED debate they've had on here for a long time. This really was worthy of that title.
Ronaldo is finished not with pace of game utd will finish 10th with him n d team
@@mikewalsh5834 🧢
Quite simply keane is a great pundit. And what goes under the radar alot, so is carragher to, he talks alot of sense.
Bascially, it;s evey time United suffer. That's when Keano blows the f up. I'm relishing this United downfall even more than barca at the moment. £ can only get you so much quality.
@@attila_the_hunk9685 like i say, they r both great pundits, bit imo carragher wins that arguement.
The word "heated" is absolutely spot on for once😂
I was gonna say! xD
Finally
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Yep
Well done Sky, for the first time ever this was ACTUALLY "heated"
😂😂
And got 100 rated due to this iconic debate.
2nd actually
@@saeed_05 hi muhammad. Longtime no see.
@@purwantiallan5089 hi purwanti, longtime no see, wagwaan, is there anything wrong with my name
Just found a copy of the script...
Keane: "Ronaldo was never gonna win them the league!"
Carragher: "So what's he here for?!"
Keane: "Trophies!"
(Repeat 10 times, with increasing volume)
Keane: "What trophies FA cup"
@@sololife9260 carabao cup?
And yet he berate other for not winning the league hahaha. Hypocrisy at its best. Thinking he also the pundit who defend ole the most. Hahah
-tap tap tap-..."time to go"
There are trophies aside from the league though
Glad Keane brought up ‘do you think Rashford pressed today’. They seem so hyper focused on Ronaldo they forget all the other non pressing players in the team who seem to get free passes.
Glad someone understood a word in that exchange
Rashford looked disinterested for the whole game. He couldn't be bothered to close down anyone. He was embarassing today and has been for a long time tbh
I don’t know why they took off Sancho instead of Rashford.
@@filipstefanovski155He's too busy thinking about how to get Knighthood by writing tweets about school dinners.
Aka if you are english they get off with everything
Now this, is HEATED sky sports. Love the emotion and anguish of these fellas, and s/o to Jimmy being caught in the middle of it.
Jimmy just sat back and watched those legends go at it. That, for once, wasn't clickbait.
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lmao, I was like oh it's actually heated for once
Jimmy thinking what have walked into a sketch show lol
roy keane being realistic, behind the message he said with carrick mu not gonna win the league
Jimmys laughing because he's got a front row seat at the greatest argument of all time 😂
I love how Keane is barely a second away from losing it like my Dad would. 😂😂
Yep 🤣
You have no dad
@@qwerty11222 great banter there
@@jamesmarsh2828 you also have no dad
@@samn6498 most dry guy I’ve ever seen
The tap on the knee and the time to go at the end was one of the bravest things I’ve ever seen a man do 😂
Brilliant
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That’s his job
@@rupeoverlay3153 so goood
True enough . . . Keano could have easily misinterpreted that and in on Jamie at the end there.
Carragher one of the few pundits who gives it back to Keane. This was heated definitely but in a positive way.
What did he give back here
And Carragher has a point why sign him if you're not going to challenge for the league
@@nathanyabo9445 i agree, then its a waste of money.
sly sports' other Jamie had to change his pants and he was nowhere near the stadium!
@@nathanyabo9445 it was a business decision not a performance related one.
“Ronaldo came to United to win the FA cup” - Roy Keane 2021
This needs more likes
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Honestly I still remember when this was such a Prestigious cup, it was up their with the division 1 title in terms of prestige back in the day. Now it’s just a cup to let the kids run around, not a bad thing I suppose get youngsters some game time and experiences.
@@mimo-bine I'm not sure what you don't get. The FA Cup isn't nearly as highly regarded as it used to be. Hence OP's comment which mocks Keane's comment about Ronaldo going to United to win the FA Cup.
25-30 years ago, the FA Cup final was a huge day at the end of the English football season. Winning it was just as prestigious as winning the league, but now it doesn't come close.
English fans of a certain age still regard the FA cup as very important. Let the winners enter the Champions league and it will regain its glory.
As a Chelsea fan I was very happy Cr7 wasn't starting and I think Keane is right, who would bench a world class super star in one of the most critical games of the seasons away from home playing with one of the best and well organised team that is really hard to break.
He was better than rashford. Rashford did nothing
We were winning 1-0 with him on the bench, think you were more excited about our poor midfield which actually put in a shift that game lol
@@yashhgami utd would have won 3-1 if cr7 started ahead of rashford
Rashford is good but he is need to gain his form back personally i think it is better to start ronaldo first at that match
True, people all of a sudden bantering ronaldo but don't realise that utd have the worst midfield and defense in big 6
The end though with him tapping Keane’s leg and saying “it’s time to go” caught me off guard 😂😂
That's enough now Roy!
Let them keep going
Claude the legend smilling from heaven.
it was deffo a bit weird
The bromance is real
Roy Keane is definitely one of the reason why I watch Sky Sports. Priceless.
I like him too but he got himself tied in knots on this one.
@@pflynn581 How is that tied in knots, do you not understand the difference between a cup trophy and a premier league trophy.
@@arkane5260 Of course he does mate. Carra was saying why buy a 36 year old, pay him 500 grand a week just to win an FA cup? You Roy Keane fan boys are getting silly now.
@@arkane5260 Man United did not sign Ronaldo to win the League Cup.
This will go down in history as the greatest football debate ever, from the whole Irish to Scouse back and forth heated argument which hardly anyone outside of the UK could even understand, to the pat on Roy’s leg at the end with “time to go”🤣
I'm in Canada and understood it all.
Although I admit if they wanted to have fun and lay the accent on thick I wouldn't stand a chance, heh.
As for the debate, both make valid points. Carragher is not wrong when he says that keeping Sancho on the bench will stunt his growth. Roy too is correct when he asks why did they buy Ron again if not play him.
I understood
I'm German and I understood pretty much all of it.
🤣🤣 when you say it like that
as a person who never set foot on UK, its easy to understand
I think we all need a friend like Roy Keane. He will defend no matter what.He defended Ole even though he wasn't that good this season. I respect him.
So u want a friend to defend you even if you ain’t doing something right? Shouldn’t you want a friend that tells u instead of hiding it?
@@greatestanalyser2354 if your friend doesn’t defend you, he ain’t your friend.
BradTRC I get a friend defending you but if you’re doing a bad job, a true friend will tell u instead of covering it up
@@greatestanalyser2354 a true friend will defend you in public and tutor you in private
Abdulmalik Alneef I don’t think he tutors him in private lol
Sky made fantastic football signings with Keane and Carragher. It's a pity the players on the pitch don't have the passion of the two lads in the studio😄
Yes. You are on the spot
Preach
Gesticulating and raising your voice does not mean you have more passion than someone else.
The gesticulating & raising of the voices is from the passion.
The new generation is more interested in wearing dresses and handbags for fashion & instagram than they are for actually winning anything.
@@izdatsumcp for those of us who have watched Keane & Carragher on the field will know what they mean by their passion and commitment.
I feel for Jimmy. He went from curiosity to amusement to fear!
😂
I'm impressed he followed the conversation
Lol
Jimmy was hilarious throughout 😂
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
This is why we love Keane on sky sports. He'll argue with everyone. Makes the programme more passionate
And loss the argument every time
@@綾小路寺清貴-z3o not really just depends on your perspective
@@綾小路寺清貴-z3o go back to busting to anime girls
@@GDL88 and earning scps
What's the point of arguing if you're just doing it for the sake of forced pantomime theater though?
Agree with Roy. Ronaldo needs to start the big games, you rest him against lesser teams if you must. Man Utd SHOULD have enough against the bottom half teams to rest Ronaldo if needed but he COULD and likely WOULD be the difference maker against the other big teams. He can't do that if he's on the bench for 70 mins, game is about winning and scoring goals and he does that.
He's not going to press and as Roy says you must take that into account if you play him, when Ole said Rashford must concentrate on football rather than politics perhaps he felt he wasn't doing the leg work required for the guy who partners Ronaldo?.
That's the key element here - Ronaldo is the star player at Utd so others (his strike partner especially) must fit around his game to a certain degree.
Ronaldo needs to play the lesser teams to train the muscles the mind and have games. Bringing him in only to fight the tough games is simply abuse. Imagine only fighting Mike Tyson only and never sparing lesser boxers. When do you test your craft and try things out for the big games. You ask ronAldo do you want to start today. ronAldo in in a different league to others. That's fact. ronAldo wants to do well and doing well does the team well. It goes hand in hand. You don't use Ronaldo for your method, you can't use LIONS. LIONS TELL YOU. ❤️
It is the weaker teams that Man Utd struggled against. They are the games Ronaldo could turn from draws to wins. Against Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool you need everyone pressing all the time. He alters the tactics you can use.
You play Ronaldo against "big teams" in the Prem, and you are effectively playing with 10 men. He can grab a goal from nothing, no doubt, but that is rarely going to win you a game against City, Liverpool or Chelsea because they will blow you away, and right now probably wouldn't even consistently get you the win at West Ham or one or two others. United are playing for Europa League places at best if they can't work out how to get the best from Ronaldo.
Other way round: against the big teams you need everyone pressing. Against the weaker teams Ronaldo can score to assure wins and that’s where they struggled last season.
Absolutely. Some pundits talk absolute rubbish. Play him as much as possible, one of the best players ever to play the game. He's the top performer at UTD.
Just love how Hasselbaink is sitting there and enjoy his time.
my favourite player..always calm and enjoy histime
He’s sat there chilling like security in case it kicks off and he has to split them up 😆 😝
He sat there when Roy and Redknapp had a heated debate abou Spurs last time as well. I think it's his fault.. 😄
Jimmy's a top guy
Bring out the popcorn 😉😀
Tapping Roy Keane on the leg like that is probably up there with being one of the bravest things any man has ever done.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's his job
Who wants to see what happened next?
This is why Sky Sports football presentation and punditry is a cut above in this country. They let it flow. 6 minutes without a single interruption from the presenter. Camera didn’t even change. They ‘let the game play’ so to speak.
Also, Carra is right. 😉🎣
Jamie C can take him.
I love how Jimmy just enjoying himself in the middle 😂🤣🤣
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😂😂😂
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I get jimmy's point. He's just saying bringing cr7 back will hinder the growth of youngsters such as sancho and greenwood and etc while not making united a PL winning team.
Thats just me.
I can hear this point but even this far Ronaldo has saved United from loses on a few occasions ( not including pens). He fights till the end and these youngsters have the talent but could do with his desire
Sancho and Greenwood are wingers, how is bringing a striker in gonna hinder their development? Nonsence. If anything you can learn from him lol
@@TIM22RoCk Greenwood is out if position at RW and is fighting sancho for the RW position
Greenwood 😬
@@eliass8118 Who?!
Shows how sticky of a situation this is when everyone pretty much agrees with the both of them. Love how passionate both Roy and Carragher get. Also just Hasslebank probably the most chilled man out there just sitting there haha
He looks like his wife and mum are having an argument and taking either's side is going to mean either sleeping on the sofa for a week or not being invited over for Christmas.
That must have been the quickest year in Ronaldos life he went from 36 to 37 in 3 mins 😂
😂😂
😂😂😂😂
He’s 37 in 3 months mate. Technically the same thing lol.
He is 37 in a couple of months time (Feb).
Well. He's actually 36.8 years old. A lot closer to 37 years on this planet than 36. Jamie is right....
Seeing Roy accepting the misery of United at the end was kind of sad. Even Jamie suprised by his answers.
No it wasn't it was amazing 🤣YNWA
@@dujon06 be quiet
@@dujon06 Honest to God, while club rivalry is great and you're of course gonna joke about United as a Liverpool fan, I feel sorry for them. Seeing such a rich club sink is sad as a football fan in general. Like Keane said, they need to impose their character and determination in the game. You don't know what you're gonna get with players like Shaw, Maguire, Fred, etc.
Its crazy to see, its finally happened
It is a shame
The end is brilliant, Dave with the "Time to go".. like a parent calling his kid back home from the playground
Dave Jones patting Roy’s leg at the end and saying “it’s time to go” like a Dad taking his son home when you’re just in the middle of an argument with your mate🤣🤣
A brave man if you ask me.
Thats true 🤣🤣
And he was never seen again
A very very brave man! Hope he’s ok.
David Jones Badass level confirmed
I like that we keep it real. Perfectly acceptable discussion and the reason why i'm excited for the post analysis on sky. With Roy, it's always 100% commitment.
@@julianbanks1885 there are some truths in his argument. United are way off the mark achieving the consistency of the leading three, the remaining cup runs are the lowest hanging fruits for this season.
@@chosen___one But he said that United signed Ronaldo to win cups which is not true at all.
United finished second in the league last season and signed Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho, and are currently lurking in the 8th position.
United made these signings so they could cover up the gap between themselves and City and they have fallen.
@@julianbanks1885 but they spoiled it last season by losing to Villareal on PK.
Would love to hear Jose and Roy discuss United 😀
@@julianbanks1885 overrated season last year..of course got no 2 in the league but overall man united still struggling..3 years never past ucl group stage, no trophy, at least this season man u got chance to win ucl or cup
It's a miracle neither of them swore 😂 and Jimmy's awkward grin throughout is priceless. Stuck between that.
Should get paid danger money
He was Keane's side kick.
They signed Ronaldo to sell jerseys..and anybody thinks any different are off there head..what a player that man was I his day but he's bet
@@seanmurphy3550 lass they get payed a fixed amount for that the jersey maker sells more 🤣🤣🤣🤡🙈
@@johndover3594
Stop writing nonsense.
Manchester United hired Ronaldo not to go to Manchester City.
Ronaldo still scores you 40 to 50 goals per season.
Players only sell jerseys are those who are already downhill like Eden Hazard.
5:43 didn't age well....
This is why I love watching Sky Football Analysis. You get class arguments between Keane, Neville and Carragher and even Micah from time to time like this. Love to see it
@@jacejohnson7113Coverage too, there was a weekend a few years back when United played Liverpool in a meaningless league match, and City played Chelsea in a cup final. United and Liverpool got all the build up, along with the '3 commentator' treatment, and the CUP FINAL got the B team, Jamie Rednapp and someone else if I remember correctly.
Much better than dullard like alex scott stating the obvious
@@_Goldenear if that's your opinion then fair enough 👍
@@jamesdan6895 Thats probably because Utd V Liverpool is the biggest football fixture in the world watched globally by millions & millions of people.
@Sean I agree 🙄
We do not deserve Roy Keane, he is absolutely class week in week out. Passionate about his former club, but doesn’t shy away from the truth. This was some of his finest work 😂😂😂😂
"If you see him in the carpark"🤣🤣🤣
It was class before this, disgusted with carrick’s interview and the united board and if you want loyalty go and get a dog 😂
He did shy away from the truth when ole was in charge
This guy Keane is TV gold 🤣 we seriously need to cherish these moments as him being a pundit.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽✊🏽
Watching Hasselbainks laughter turn into concern was a gift in itself
😂
Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank *is* a gift himself
These scene will definitely be a meme
"brought Ronaldo to win the fa Cup"
Middlesbrough are u sure about that☕😏
Finally! a HEATED DEBATE that was actually heated
Fifa ranking of india 😂😂😂😂
@@jack100millionsigningonly6 Champions league titles of Man city 🤣🤣🤣
@@liamjones6671 I'm not even Man U fans 🤣
@@liamjones6671 cough *Lyon* cough
ah here we go with the BS heated comments. Should be considered spam nowadays.
The pat on the leg, “time to go” had me cracking up
tap tap tap
🤣🤣🤣
Utd and Liverpool rivalry
Never finishes
Even after years of not playing
Loved it
It has nothing to do with that rivalry
Hhhahahaha 🤣
MU 0-5 liverpool...ronaldo played
Chelsea 1-1 MU...ronald bench...
@@adamyusuff9649 The difference MU with and without Ole
@miqdad oh please... they are the same coach
Going to have to agree with Jamie here. What is the point of United signing Ronaldo if they aren’t going to win the league? Just an FA cup? You think Ronnie would be happy with just that
They couldn't even make it to quarter finals of League Cup forget about them winning FA cup
Lmao and they got knocked out because of ronaldo penalty miss
Jamie has been proven right,no trophies at all again ha ha ha
Yh wrd
Dave taking his life in his hands slapping Roy on the leg 😂
I was in disbelief
I’m an arsenal fan but I love watching pundits arguing in a positive way. What’s funny is that they’re both right in what they’re saying.
Jamie is wrong as usual bud, he just hates Ronaldo
@@rayu2794
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
@@rayu2794 how is he wrong? You don’t sign Ronaldo not to win the league because he is a ruthless winner and that’s the only reason he would of came to United because he believed they can challenge for the title.
How is Jammie right? Why Man City the best pressing team didnt win UCL? for 6 to 7 years they are trying. But RM wins it 3 time and CR7 the main man with 15 goals avrg. You dont need a person like him to press he delivers when it matters and pump in the extra effort when it required. This Pressing mania is pathetic!! you dont need more than 8 players to defend a goal if those 8 players are good enough and to say need cr7 to press is absolute rubbish!!
@@4cricket24 "Why Man City the best pressing team didnt win UCL? for 6 to 7 years they are trying. But RM wins it 3 time and CR7 the main man with 15 goals avrg." Because the Champions League is a cup competition. Winning a cup competition involves far more luck than a league. City are doing things right. They'll win a CL eventually because of that.
Roy: “GOALS GOALS GOALS”
Cara: “I’m not criticising but…”
Jimmy: 😶
He nearly got his second line in there at the end
@@kurtsudheim825 he tried his best
5:14 Hasselbank's smile hearing a good point from Keane and looking over to Carragher for his reply 😂😂
"There was never a plan to re-sign him." That's it! Ronaldo was re-signed by circumstance, not based on a plan. It's not his fault that United are struggling, he's not responsible for any of it. However, if you take the risk of re-signing a 36 year old world class player, you've got to have a clear plan on how he'll immediately win you as many trophies as possible. Unfortunately, United's coaching staff don't have the slightest clue on how to integrate him properly on what they had already built, hence Ole got the sack!
Spot on. The team was built around a 10 which is why Bruno was able to hit the ground running, to change that without even a pre season to work on it caused all sorts of issues
Spot on.
@@Heatwave9000 I'm guessing you're like 12 then?
Beautifully said, nothing more to add tbh 🤌🏾
Totally agree with you. Ronaldo might not win the league but he'll help the team to rebuild momentum. Winning mentality which had lost after sometime.
Two very passionate footballing rivals who are still at it after all these years, brilliant to see.
Carragher was no rival to Keane
@@SierraKilo91 Yup. Captain and vice-captain of clubs who count each other their biggest rivals. Absolutely no way were they rivals on the pitch...
@@SierraKilo91 That's because while Man Utd had players like Ronaldo, Cantona, and Stam, Liverpool had Bruno Cheyrou, Igor Biscan, and Djimi Traore. Carragher could have been an all time great in the right team, up there with the Milan defenders of the 80s and 90s. A lot of life is just luck, Carragher had a top mentality and was a top defender who was very close to Terry in terms of solidity and did for Liverpool what Keane did for Utd. Your kind of thinking is why some people think Scholes is equal to or better than Gerrard. You probably never watched the lad play, he could pass the ball well but couldn't run, couldn't tackle, was regularly substitued because he had asthyma etc. It's like comparing Henderson to Declan Rice, or Kane to Lewandowski. Luck and circumstances plays a massive role in life and being in the right place at the right time decides the course of history. Even if Carragher doesn't have a league title, they each have a Champions League: because Ferguson couldn't do to UEFA what he did to the FA, among other reasons...
I can see where both of them are coming from tbf. Keane is definitely right that Ronaldo should be starting against teams like Chelsea, you don’t bench someone like that in such an important game. At the same time though Jamie definitely has some good points too that Ronaldo’s been brought back so Man United can win the league, they came second last year and want first and you’re not gonna bring in players like Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho unless you want to win anything and everything that pops up with the league being the primary goal. Either way this is gold 😂
Well said
My thoughts exactly!
But United looked better and more energetic without Ronaldo.
💯💯
The fact is we have been here before when we had Zlatan. Weren't gonna win the league, zlatan scored goals but one out of Rashford/Martial was always benched. Now its Ronaldo scoring goals with one out of Sancho/Greenwood always benched.
That season with zlatan we won trophies like keane is saying could happen with Ronaldo this season but Carrager is saying that in the long term it didnt getus anywhere as we never really got close to winning the league and Rashford nor Martial can play as a 9 properly now. Same way Greenwood could end up not being a proper 9 as he never gets to play there. (Reminds me of Martial) 🤔🤔
ronaldo has helped to make the team dysfunctional though. the team needs to learn how to properly play without ronaldo. the 36 year old guy can’t be running for 90 minutes each game. i think it makes perfect sense
4:25 Who is here after Man Utd knocked out of the FA Cup by Middlesbrough 😂🤣😂🤣
And now their cup final is over, Boro are back to scrapping for a play-off position in the Championship.
@@andrewhezekiahdaniel what?
@@davidtawse6765 Commiserations
Who’s here after United won a Carabao cup and FA cup since EtH binned off Ronaldo 😂
That slap on the leg “it’s time to go” like when bouncers do that to old guy that’s had to much to drink at the pub 😂😂
😂 too right my g haha
@@RizzardOfOz03 the slap on the knee time to go, is just the best isn't it
What's the difference
I'm screaming 🤣🤣🤣
Roy always delivers and Jamie is right up there with him.
I need more of both of them together.
How about we just Sprinkle a bit of Jose to spice it up ,😂
Lol it's true Jamie and Gary are friends now they don't go at it anymore
But Roy "they've got no character, no personalities" Keane always delivers
@@previnn8872 "that's his job!"
Literally, his job.
To start and debate the topic.
The ability to play devils advocate and argue a point you don't necessarily believe is a very valuable skill.
And is what makes him good at the job.
@@previnn8872 He does that sometimes but he definitely believes what he is saying here. He's said it a lot. That Ronaldo is good but you sacrifice the team for him etc. And that United aren't close to the league. It's all true lol
Classic Keane!
LOVE IT
Poor Roy couldn't stop messing up in this one. He's that stubborn uncle at the Christmas family dinner.
Says nothing interesting, but at least it's entertaining.
@@777SNYM and there is carragher who is big clown in circus doesn't know cr7s stats
5:52 the 'oooh' from Carragher 😂revisiting in August 2022 - Ronaldo has spent the whole summer trying to force a move, no club wants him and he even left a pre-season game early to avoid the traffic.
"Why Carrick is trying to give him a high 5- I dont know". Lol dead.
Carrick playing with fire 🔥 lol
I was with Keano until 4:20...
Us United fans were expecting a huge title challenge this year after signing Ronaldo, Varane & Sancho.
Even i dont agree but what he mean is ronaldo alone not gonna win you a league. He knows when your starter is maguire - fred - bissaka - shaw - mctominy you ain't winning it if you have doubts go watch his debate after city game you will get it
@@ayyanbabar6014 Ronaldo is want to win trophies, but bad timing
This is such a tired conversation. Everytime united don't win we have to have a debate about the fact Ronaldo doesn't press
It’s true though the number 9 needs to lead the press. The reason United scored as well is because they pressed.
Yes he's scored some important goals for us but if he was fit I'd play Cavani instead.
Same things people talked about when he was at Juve. Now they are midtable
None of the team press. They pretend to press and give up after 5 seconds then just sit off and camp 11 behind the ball
On 25 minutes the possession stats were Chelsea 82% Man Utd 18%
That can't happen if you know how to press. Utds players are frauds
20th in the league for tackles and 19th for recoveries is an embarrassment
The longest time man utd had the ball in the 1st half was 21 seconds.
Chelsea had the ball for 3+ minutes on 7 different occasions
@@B3MadeIt thank god you're not our coach then
4:23 I miss the battles with these two legends
Finally, an actual HEATED debate
That was fantastic! Carragher's voice even stated to go towards the end! (Never thought that was possible!)
5:24 When Keane said "Cup's... cups!" I lost it 😂😂😂❤❤❤
😁😁😁😁😆😆😆 Hehe hehe same!
3:27 Keane and Carragher getting more and more heated accompanied with Hasselbaink laughing in the middle is glorious
“ the game is about scoring goals” love it Roy😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
Bringing up Salah forgetting that Salah presses hard
It's not just pressing. It's also making runs to create space for your teammates, dropping deeper to help in the build up to attacks.
We all know Ronaldo can still finish, but he's lost nearly all the other aspects of his game (which is understandable considering his age).
If he was as good a team player as some people claim he still is, how on earth have United gone from 2nd to 9th?
@@footballnerd277 Reason is, We Still Have Maguire Mactominay, Fred, Lindelof, Matic, and Shaw Playing Every Week.
It was deflating to hear Keane say they brought Ronaldo back to win the FA cup not the league....the decline of this club has been horrendous!
"Keane, why must you argue and get angry?"
Keane: "That's my job."
Dave tapping Roys leg at the end is the equivalent of poking a bear with a stick. Amazed he escaped with his life in tact.
🤣🤣🤣
😂 😂
Why? It's Roy Keane... more like a pussycat
Ha haaaaaa
"Jimmy has 774 games in his career
Cristiano scored 801 goals."
------EVRA
That would be a good point if Jamie was trying to argue that he is a better player than Ronaldo which - which he clearly isn’t.
Evra has 720 games Messi has 753 goals....hypocrisy at its peak🤡
@@axxl9876 but is evra badmouthing messi if he gets the chance. No. So stfu if you don't understand the situation
@@htth4263 yes...he even said "he's tired of Messi winning the ballond'or"...so stfu we all know how much Evra dislike Messi
❤️
What made me laugh was when the presenter tapped on Keane’s knee at the end and said “time to go”.
Cherry on top
Just they do to me in the pubs....
He should be a bouncer for that lol
it's like that old man that gets carried away in a care home
Chef's kiss
I understand both but if you’re a club who finished second last year, what’s the aim for this year?
Signing ronaldo and varane was to bring united back to their best, and win titles not cups
They was lucky to finish 2nd tbf as Liverpool and Chelsea had a poor start to last season, and it was a one horse race as Man City cleared the league 20pts from 2nd
That 2nd is so out of context. Liverpool were hindered, Chelsea had a bad first half then won the CL, and City are the best. They are the 4th best team objectively.
I agree u need to capitalise on that
But coaching and management is very poor
U can’t go in a game with 3 defensive midfielder while its a important game to win
they finished 20 points behind city
Cups and titles are the same thing
I love how as both of them get "heated", their voices gradually get higher
That “time to go” in the end always gets me 🤣
The “it’s time to go “ bit was the icing on the cake 😂 rip Claude
Wait was that line from the presenter intentionally referencing Claude?
@@Liam.2000 I don’t think it was intentional at all 😂
😂😂😂 this is gold
Shush BOLO JOEL
This is above gold. This is diamond!
Can I sign Roy Kean to narrate arguments for me?
Jamie carragher disagreeing with Keane is like a son finally stepping up to his father and saying "dad, capitalism has failed society, democratic socialism is how we create a fair society"
Carra just hates Ronaldo.
The death stare Roy has is hilarious 😂
“The death stare” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@donlogan9840 Yes, like James Cagney's baleful murder glare in golden age gangster movies!
400 years of occupation causes that.
I love how hasselbaink is just smiling while the debate is getting heated
This just proves their passion for the game. LOVE IT!
RIP CLAUDE. His spirit lives on “ITS TIME TO GO!!”
DVD 📀
Who’s Claude?
@@YoogiNation the aftv goat
@@YoogiNation ah jee- rea- really?
R.I.P a true legend
This was honestly more entertaining than the actual match lol. Love Roy Keane to bits
❤️🤣
I love all the skysports pundits to bits. Neville, Keane, Carra. They are brilliant.
There was nothing entertaining about the match honestly. I almost died of a heart attack with the way Chelsea dealt with us. We could have left that stadium with 6 to 0. I am rather glad the suffering ended. Chelsea really are something. But we are improving defensively. our attack should be the next place of concentration. We will triumph, just not against these top teams at the moment😅. They are on a different level for now. My butt is still sweating from all the tension I was under. We barely left our half. Trust me, we shouldn't have even scored in this game, that ball from jorginho was a "giveaway", everything else in terms of goals for us was a disaster. Even Ronaldo only touched the ball 6 times in his entire 36 minutes play. 4 of the touches were passes in our half, 2 of which failed. and the other 2 touches were failed dribbles, you can understand his frustration. My soul left me for the entire 96 minutes. When the referee blew, he put an end to my mystery. Man u. We are the best please, or at least we are among the best. We can do better. Please
Stick to Corrie if that's the case
@@Mr___X I do lol 😆
Carragher's point: Because man united finished 2nd last season, signing Ronaldo would mean they would have challenged for the title this season, because they have a proper goal scorer.
I do agree with Carragher, if Man United improved from last season, with Ronaldo in the team, they would have won the league.
They were still far better with Ronaldo than they are now which goes to show, picking Rashford ahead of Ronaldo was a huge mistake.
Carra does make a lot of great points about the team needing to win right now. But I do think Keano also makes a good point that ronaldo HAS to be playing in the big games. He lives for those games. and forget that 'oh he doesnt press' that one player exists for practically every club. Ronaldo is the most clutch player oat, he simply has to be playing these games.
But he played in the big games against City and Liverpool and Utd got destroyed. Today they looked more compact, solid and controlled. And they got a point from Chelsea, who are flying at the moment. Any team in the league would be happy with a point at Stamford Bridge.
Ok then messi should be not play against big teams like Liverpool Bayern because he doesn't press then why messi and Ronaldo are in the team because they are goat 🐐🐐 and they are big game player .and against chealsa tell me what rashford did that Ronaldo can't . rashford doesn't press as well and he was in team only for his speed on break .
Ronaldo played against City and Liverpool and he was rubbish in both games so your point makes no sense
@@stanettiels7367 so if Cavani was playing they'd have won?
Ronaldo only touch 10 times ball in 2 nd half ,what point to bring him on . He didn't defence.
I see both point of views. I agree with Keane when it comes down to Ronaldo doesnt press as that is not his style but yet he still delivers goals. I agree with Carragher in terms of signing Ronaldo and Varane players who have won champions leagues amongst other trophies, United should be aiming alot more higher than FA Cup such as going for the league especially United came 2nd last year.
Then why manunited kept ole despite bottling the uel finals and all other cup matches...they should have sacked him immediately and should have gone for other manager options ..Ole played for draws despite other PL teams were average last season
@@ashton7615 you make it sound like Man utd had options to replace them. No world class manager wants to go near old Trafford for years. They've seen how Moyes and Mourinho were treated and don't want anything to do with them
@@ajorngjdonaydbr Conte was available, Pochettino was available, Tuchel was available but United slept on their chances and got to a situation where they had to keep Ole and then when they couldn't anymore their only option was Rangnick. Rangnick isn't really someone who is going to deliver trophies but he'll make the team play a lot better most likely their best manager since Ferguson.
@@ajorngjdonaydbr It was our useless board we don't have a elite trophy after post Fergie...The rangnick appointment is one good thing the board done after all these years..Signing ten hag over poch in summer will be a great move imo..
Fence sitting girl
That “time to go” at the end was like the barman talking to an angry drunk.
Absolute gold! I expected Roy to start on Jimmy. “”Dont touch me”
Lollolol
you've just perfectly summed up Keane in 2 words there at the end.
Reminded me of AFTV Claude, RIP
Carra is spot on. Everyone was thinking Man utd were title contenders after Ronaldo's signing. Gary Neville even said it himself. But the fact that they are nowhere close to where we all expected them to be shows signing Ronaldo was not the solution. But none of the ex Man utd players will admit that Ronaldo was a pointless signing in terms of club progress.
True especially now they are out of da club
Carra is so wrong, but to win right now, was bad timing when Ronaldo came in when Man Utd struggling for 8 years. You think they gonna be champions in 3 years ? No, Keane was right all along. Compare to Messi and Ronaldo, is Messi doing fine but lack chemistry.
They only signed him to stop him from going to City, nothing to do with winning trophies
Progress????i know a "progress" he done for the club,without his goals in his 1st season they would have finished the league in 14th and in the Champions League they would have been be eliminated in the group stage,with his 5 goals in 6 games they went through.
In 2 seasons Rashford has more 3 goals than Ronaldo...that would be amazing if Ronaldo didnt left 7 months ago.
I dont know if it progress or not,what i know is that he helped the club to not be a bigger joke than it is for the last years.
This is absolute gold. Fair play to both of them for not swinging a punch. 😂😂
roy keane is the funniest pundit never fails to make me laugh
His Maguire impression was priceless 😂😂
@FantasticF17 do me a favour 😂😂
uh uh uh..apologies to the fans 🤣
I think everybody felt when Keane said "I'll tell you again, to win cups, FA cups"
Graeme Souness “You gotta think what is Paul Pogba doing right now?” 😂😂😒
Jimmy sitting there in the middle laughing Has me in stitches tbh 🤣
Jimmy's cheeky smile is brilliant. I've noticed it a few times when Keane is kicking off.
i love when the argument gets faster carragher’s voice gets squeakier 😂😂
Maybe, but that didn't negate his argument. So according to RK, they signed Ronaldo NOT to win the league but to win the FA cup?! 🤣
Roy was a hypocrite in the post carrick interview but he’s right here. If you have 9 out of 10 players pressing and defending as a team you can have one exception if the exception is by far your best goal scorer and one of the best goal scorers ever
But then the player who is not pressing will give spaces for the opposition to operate and the opposing team will always have a free man there.
100% agree, Ronaldo has never been strong at pressing or tracking back..... Fergie still managed to keep him on the pitch and was successful
They were better without him. He does not press.
He can run small yards
9 players can’t press the other team will have a extra man… you need everybody to press
I’m a Liverpool fan but you just can’t hate Keane 😂
The difference is if Ronaldo scored today it would’ve been his 800th career goal you don’t bench that kind of player
Personal accolades shouldn’t get in the way … everything carragher said was spot on
If Pele scored today it would have been his 768th career goal, by your logic he should be in the starting 11 as well.
@@beanut.putter 🤔😝
@@dp9124 if ronaldo gets that chance fred got united win the game. thats why you play him
@@smallarmskepa4390 damn how old are you to have a go at someone based on their likes 😂. Put your fon down and focus in class kid.
Never thought I'd hear Keane use the stock market in an argument to justify a player not being benched
It is the only point really worth making and could be used to explain everything Man Utd for the last decade. They are now a corporation, not a football club, owned by people who are not interested in or capable of creating a football club in the traditional sense. They are capable of managing a corporation and maximising profit. That's it, that explains basically everything, from throwing money at ineffective signings for years, to vanity signings to stop Man City buying the player they end up ruining.
I love how accepting Roy Keane is of Man U’s decline😂😂😂
Lol the fans are coming around
Many are happy with how they set up yesterday and the point they got by the grace of God
They're finally accepting that against the big boys the need to become Burnley and hold on for dear life
After what Liverpool did to them, they've had to learn the hard way . Don't go toe to toe cos the top 3 are levels above
Jeez your having a laugh ayembe .
This is what happens when you care about the game more than a team
He's done with it
Jamie’s definitely got a point after United finished 2nd most United fans expected them to challenge if not win the league after signing the players they have, they’ve been a joke since the start of the season and I feel sorry for Ronaldo, being made to look like it’s his fault that the team are performing poorly when he’s arguably their best player, yeah he wanted to win a trophy at United but they’re miles away from achieving that and he’ll probably be gone in the summer.
That “time to go” at the end had me crying 😂
Me2😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Yeah that was class
hasslebank was getting a bit too heated there, he needs to calm down
Men! The tap on Roy's lap, "time to go" was the best part of this video seriously. 😂🤣🤣