Super informative vid! However, concerning your referenced presets (WhoIsMatt Luts) for this S-Cinetone profile; after reading the description it states "Works with Standard & LOG Footage." Could you share with me if this is for S-Cinetone as well, because it doesn't mention this profile? Thanks!
@@LennyandSandi Same information I'm looking for. I bought these LUTs and just noticed there is no LUT for filming in S-Cinetone (profile 11). Matt, can you help here? Thank you!
The redirection takes me to a lut package for log formats, pence find one for cinetone, you have that lut available, I am not interested in the slog I use fx3 to document my children and I will use s-cinetone to not colour more in the future
S Cinetone actually doesn’t clip until 109 (it’s in the Sony help guide). Setting your zebras to 100 is just going to waste dynamic range as you can recover your whites in post if you set zebras to 109. Alternatively, you can create a manual knee in the picture profile that brings your white point down to 100. I’m really shocked at the amount of TH-cam teachers who don’t know this. I didn’t find a single person who understood this information that Sony gives us for free. Also, slog3 clips at 94, so setting zebras to 100+ will make you think you are never overexposed.
If you create a manual knee in the picture profile that brings your white point down to 100, should we set the zebras to 100+ in that case?? Thank you so much
Do you know of any way to make the camera monitor show me the image with a white point of 100, while retaining the post superwhites to bring down in post? I keep getting my footage back overexposed by a little bit, compared to how I saw it while shooting.
Helpful tip for exposure: by default “spot metering point” is set to “center”. Changing it to “focus point link” like you showed, meters the exposure of what’s in focus. Perhaps still not entirely accurate, but a lot better than it’s default option “center”.
WOW!! What an awesome video and SO well explained. I ordered the a7Siii and still waiting patiently 6 weeks later (chip shortage) but in the meantime dude you are helping me big-time with your great videos!! Many thanks Matt 🇨🇦
Another more old-school way to set your exposure is to use your camera like a handheld light meter. In your wide shot of people kissing, get two feet away from them, use manual ISO and exposure. Set the correct exposure as they fill the frame. The, when you pull the camera back for the wide shot, their faces will be properly exposed. Maybe the sky. blows out a bit, but it's the faces you want to be properly exposed.
Love your channel Matt, thanks for making the LUTs but your link isn't clear that the LUTS are for S-Cinetone, am I missing something? Don't want to drop money on the wrong LUTS, please advise
Thanks Matt. I have been subscribed and watching your videos for a minute. I find them very informative and easy to follow and understand. I just purchased your complete LUTs package, as well as the discounted master class package. Got everything installed and set up, and now ready to see what becomes of it. I feel it was money well spent and if I still have that reaction after using them, I will add a T-shirt to my WHOISMATT Collection!!!
Hey Matt, I tried the Preset on my FX3 and it wouldn't load. Also on the PDF you should add, save camera settings preset 1st because the folders path are not on the memory card until you do so.
4:59 vs 5:08 honestly those images look extremely similar, and the major difference I see is slightly different sky saturation, slightly different white balance / warmth in graded image. Nothing is clipped in either image
Matt, some folks have suggested turning down the level in the detail to -7 to essentially remove a lot of the sharpness. Would you agree with that hypothesis? Thank you
I really want to thank you for this video, just subbed and hit the like. Appreciate it now my A7iv is workin' better for me and my YT videos will look better
Hi Matt, this is Bill Steele with Steele Visual Productions in Phoenix, AZ. Another very easy and fast method for determining dual native ISOs is to take the minimum available ISO in the picture Profile (base native ISO), multiply it x2 and then simply add a zero (0). Hopefully this helps. Thank you for the great tutorials and good information. All the best!
So the dual native ISO for Slog3 is 640 x 2 = 1280 + 0 added = 12.800 ??? Officially A7IV does not have native ISO. But it appears that at ISO 3200 the second step kicks in, and you’ll see less noise…
so are your LUT's works in Normal like easy set AUTO and S-Cine or Slog3? Please give me the sample video with the camera setting and after LUT is applied.
Hi Matt, I'm about to start with vídeo on my a7iii for the first time and your vídeo is very helpful. I found another video showing how to emulate S-cinetone on the a7iii and I will try it, but I have a few questions, if you don't mind... What is the difference between setting the zebras to 100+ or 60%+2 (for skin light tones for instance). Also, any idea why on the a7iii with this PP, the mn ISO is 200?
The only thing I don’t get is why you say to set zebras at 100+. S-Cinetone clips to white at 109. Is it just a little safety bumper or to give a little leeway in post?
Just to be clear, when using a Whoismatt LUTS, you will want to choose “Standard” correct? I recommend S-cinetone with Whoismatt lut 6 standard. Looks fantastic.
I’m confused. Is this only the gamma profile or the colour profile too? And should you mix and patch the colour profile with a different gamma profile or should both be the same?
Guys if you own a Sony A7iii you can create the s cinetone look with some changes to your picture profile, theres a few vids on you tube that gives you the settings that will match the a7siii cinetone look
gracias!!!!! llevo viendo barios videos porque estoy a 1 día de recibir mi a7s3, muy excitado intentando aprender de antemano lo más posible ya que vengo de una canon 60d! ajajaja en fin, me fue de mucha ayuda tu video, muchas gracias!
Hi, thanks to share your interesting video. I'd like to ask a question please: I make only documentaries in 4K around the world, I don't take Pics. I take interest about a good image quality of the video. I only shoot handheld footage and never use the tripod, does it have a good stabilizer? Do you suggest this Sony A7 IV camera for 4K videos? Thanks you.
It might be dumb, but for a video novice… since SS is a set speed (depending on what you want 24, 30, 60 fps) and aperture is set to what DOF you want (set f-stop); then can’t you just put ISO in Auto and let the camera do this rest?
best video so far seen.. heads down.. can you please make a video on how to setup davinci (from scratch with project setting till rendering) for both s-cinetone and slog
hey Matt very informative as usual one question though the lcd screen on the a7s3 looks way warmer than the evf do i trust the evf or the lcd for white balance ? thank you
Hey Matt, Sub #789 here. Refreshing my memory of using S Cinetone, and while looking at your menu, I see 24p at the top. I have a FX3 but can't get 24p out of it! What do I do.
Anyone know why at 7:42 the 12800 looks better than the 10000? I thought it was dual native ISO meaning there are only 2 ISO's where the image will look best. I don't understand how this works at 10K vs 12800
Hey Matt, wonderful video as always. Can you make a video that compares pictures profiles between sony and panasonic cameras. I know that you used to shoot with a GH5.
@@whoismatt I just realized that playing with a new A1 and 135 GM. I used HLG and filmed common objects under room lighting. Wow, the footage is so much cleaner than from iPhones. The HDR effects were seen with chrome and lights. Not to the extend of iPhone footage, but with far more resolution. I will upgrade my A1 fir wear and try out HLG3 next.
If I get it right then it´s a great difference filming at night with PP11 or S-LOG 3. ISO 2000 vs. ISO 12.800. So S-LOG 3 is not only for dynamic range with lights and shadows but also for shooting at night or under dark conditions.?
@@MANGO-FILM Using ISO 2000 with S Cinetone is not the same exposure value as ISO 2000 with SLOG. Therefore, the fact that SLOG can go to ISO 12,800 as its second native ISO doesn't mean that exposure level is that much higher than another profile. No specific profile has any advantage in low light.
When recording in S-Cinetone should I record 10 bit or 8 bit? I've been doing a lot of 10 bit and it looks great. Just not sure if it's placebo or what though. Just curious if it is a waste to record this way in 10 bit.
Hey Matt, I just wanted to know if one should use s-cinetone in 8-bit colour or not. I've recently faced some weird skin colours in my a7siii while shooting in 8bit 100fps mode in 1080p. Can you please address this! Also I am a small time TH-cam creator and do highly appreciate what you are doing!
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Super informative vid! However, concerning your referenced presets (WhoIsMatt Luts) for this S-Cinetone profile; after reading the description it states "Works with Standard & LOG Footage." Could you share with me if this is for S-Cinetone as well, because it doesn't mention this profile? Thanks!
@@LennyandSandi Same information I'm looking for. I bought these LUTs and just noticed there is no LUT for filming in S-Cinetone (profile 11). Matt, can you help here? Thank you!
Me too i wanna know
The redirection takes me to a lut package for log formats, pence find one for cinetone, you have that lut available, I am not interested in the slog I use fx3 to document my children and I will use s-cinetone to not colour more in the future
S-Cinetone ISO 125 on a7rv...
S Cinetone actually doesn’t clip until 109 (it’s in the Sony help guide). Setting your zebras to 100 is just going to waste dynamic range as you can recover your whites in post if you set zebras to 109. Alternatively, you can create a manual knee in the picture profile that brings your white point down to 100. I’m really shocked at the amount of TH-cam teachers who don’t know this. I didn’t find a single person who understood this information that Sony gives us for free. Also, slog3 clips at 94, so setting zebras to 100+ will make you think you are never overexposed.
Can you send me the link to the help guide? Thank you.
If you create a manual knee in the picture profile that brings your white point down to 100, should we set the zebras to 100+ in that case?? Thank you so much
Do you know of any way to make the camera monitor show me the image with a white point of 100, while retaining the post superwhites to bring down in post?
I keep getting my footage back overexposed by a little bit, compared to how I saw it while shooting.
Can you send the link of the sony guide? There is maximum video output information for s-log but not s-cinetone on the guide for a7iv
Hi Matt, do you have any color grading tutorial for ZV E10?
Good morning, the wedding you filmed in Colorado, I wanted to tell you, is the best wedding I've seen on film, well done, hope you're all well!!
Helpful tip for exposure: by default “spot metering point” is set to “center”.
Changing it to “focus point link” like you showed, meters the exposure of what’s in focus.
Perhaps still not entirely accurate, but a lot better than it’s default option “center”.
Multi metering is default on most cameras, focus point link sounds interesting though! Does it work with focus tracking?
AS far as S Cinetone with the FX -30, any info regarding the proper ISO would be much appreciated!
Thank you for explaining this so well. I'm considering buying anFX30 your videos are sure to help me set it up.
Recently got a Sony A7IV and im happy to say there is PP11! Im going to try this out today and compare to S-log3. Thanks for this video Matt!
This my friend is one of the best videos I have seen on the subject. So simple and so well done. Thank you! Keep on rocking. Cheers from Norway 🇳🇴
You're such a good teacher! Thank you, Matt!! Needed this as my clients often ask for the raw footage.
WOW!! What an awesome video and SO well explained. I ordered the a7Siii and still waiting patiently 6 weeks later (chip shortage) but in the meantime dude you are helping me big-time with your great videos!! Many thanks Matt 🇨🇦
Another more old-school way to set your exposure is to use your camera like a handheld light meter. In your wide shot of people kissing, get two feet away from them, use manual ISO and exposure. Set the correct exposure as they fill the frame. The, when you pull the camera back for the wide shot, their faces will be properly exposed. Maybe the sky. blows out a bit, but it's the faces you want to be properly exposed.
Danke!
Hi Matt, is the FX3 S-Cinetone Base ISO still 100 and 2.000 in 2024 after the latest firmware updates?
went to your site and didn't see LUTS for s-cinetone, link please?
Love your channel Matt, thanks for making the LUTs but your link isn't clear that the LUTS are for S-Cinetone, am I missing something? Don't want to drop money on the wrong LUTS, please advise
Hey! Yes they will work with s-cinetone :)
Thanks Matt. I have been subscribed and watching your videos for a minute. I find them very informative and easy to follow and understand. I just purchased your complete LUTs package, as well as the discounted master class package. Got everything installed and set up, and now ready to see what becomes of it. I feel it was money well spent and if I still have that reaction after using them, I will add a T-shirt to my WHOISMATT Collection!!!
Hey Matt, I tried the Preset on my FX3 and it wouldn't load. Also on the PDF you should add, save camera settings preset 1st because the folders path are not on the memory card until you do so.
4:59 vs 5:08 honestly those images look extremely similar, and the major difference I see is slightly different sky saturation, slightly different white balance / warmth in graded image. Nothing is clipped in either image
I have my exposure/color to Multi and still don’t see MM 3:19 . Any help??
This was really helpful. I am new to the Sony world and this video was great. Thanks
Matt, some folks have suggested turning down the level in the detail to -7 to essentially remove a lot of the sharpness. Would you agree with that hypothesis? Thank you
Everyone ask whoismatt no one ask how is Matt!
😂😂 I’m good
What LUT was used for the s cinetone in the video???
I really want to thank you for this video, just subbed and hit the like. Appreciate it now my A7iv is workin' better for me and my YT videos will look better
Watched hundreds of videos! This is definitely the best 👌
hey Matt thanks for all you do. Any chance for an update for S-Cinetone for the FX30?!
Great job Matt. Thanks for the video
Hi Matt great video how far have you pushed iso in s-cinetone ? i have wet up to 5000 with sony 28-105 f4 lens and it looked fine to me
thanks for sharing Great information ,, one thing i would like to ask that is it good to shoot at low light in night with cine tone...
Hey Matt, How about the new Sony A7 IV ? Does it have dual Iso ?
Thankyou Matt, lovely video, calm and professional tone of voice with no barking loud. 🤓👌
Hi Matt, this is Bill Steele with Steele Visual Productions in Phoenix, AZ. Another very easy and fast method for determining dual native ISOs is to take the minimum available ISO in the picture Profile (base native ISO), multiply it x2 and then simply add a zero (0). Hopefully this helps. Thank you for the great tutorials and good information. All the best!
Thanks Bill! Good tip!
So the dual native ISO for Slog3 is 640 x 2 = 1280 + 0 added = 12.800 ??? Officially A7IV does not have native ISO. But it appears that at ISO 3200 the second step kicks in, and you’ll see less noise…
It doesn’t work this way for the Sony A1. PP11 base is ISO 125. Second native ISO is 640, not 2500. I sure wish it was though.
so are your LUT's works in Normal like easy set AUTO and S-Cine or Slog3? Please give me the sample video with the camera setting and after LUT is applied.
why does the FX 6 not have metering modes? Would seem very convenient but I can't locate them anywhere in the menu...
You sir are a great teacher.
Thank you Matt! Very informative. What is 100+ exposure? Does that mean S Cinetone can go over 100 without blowing out highlights?
Great question…hope to here back.
I believe he’s referring to Zebra settings, it has to be +100 to prevent over exposure in SCinetone.
@@tecnolatino5552 Thank you! I learned that S Cinetone overexposes at 109.
tell me Sony a6700 S-Cinetone pp11. which iso would be the best?
Hi Matt, I'm about to start with vídeo on my a7iii for the first time and your vídeo is very helpful. I found another video showing how to emulate S-cinetone on the a7iii and I will try it, but I have a few questions, if you don't mind... What is the difference between setting the zebras to 100+ or 60%+2 (for skin light tones for instance). Also, any idea why on the a7iii with this PP, the mn ISO is 200?
Thanks for this video.
So you don't change anything in pp11 settings?
Great video just been binging all your fx30 videos mine arrives Tuesday 😊
Great information. Thank you. I set these in 6700
This was extremely helpful! Thanks again Matt🙏🏿🙌🏿!
Your video is so adapted to my skills! Thanks so much. I have a ZV-E1.
Love your instructional videos, thanks Matt. I am going to try S-Cinetone for my video project tomorrow
👍💪
7:01 You can't even set your iso to anything lower than 640 on S-Log3.. ????
My a7iv colors look incredly orange. Its upsetting! Don't know how to fix it. I've tried to change my white balance to no avail.
The only thing I don’t get is why you say to set zebras at 100+. S-Cinetone clips to white at 109. Is it just a little safety bumper or to give a little leeway in post?
100+ gives you a bit of a buffer, and because you don't want your skintones to get overexposed, I find that it helps keep them a bit less bright. :)
@@whoismatt thank you
Matt you are a legend. Can I ask the best ISOs for S Cinetone on the FX30? Thanks mate
So much clarity in your teaching. Thanks!☺
My greens look florescent mid day. A7s3 any idea why? Shooting s-cini
Just to be clear, when using a Whoismatt LUTS, you will want to choose “Standard” correct?
I recommend S-cinetone with Whoismatt lut 6 standard. Looks fantastic.
Yup, for S-Cinetone you'll want to use the Standard version of the LUTs :)
How do your s-cinetone LUTS look on the a7iv? I’ve had my a7iv for a week now and I love it!
They look great! The a7iv has essentially the same colors as the a7siii and fx3
i was confused . what should be auto iso maximum level . i have set it to maximum 2500😮
Thanks for the video
Can i record s-cinetone videos on zv-E1 without a cinebar?
Because if i choose s-cinetone mode bar appears ?
I’m confused. Is this only the gamma profile or the colour profile too? And should you mix and patch the colour profile with a different gamma profile or should both be the same?
Is this video shot in s-cinetone too?
Thank you so much! I’m gonna try out these meter and ISO settings tonight. Blessings!!
Would it not be better to set your zebras to 41 when shooting in slog-3, so you can expose the midtones correctly?
great video. Super colors and focus. To the couple in the video-get a room!
Thank you, I have no clue of what I’m doing but I want to learn, I love how you explain thing’s
Thanks a lot Matt, that’s very VERY helpful and simply explained - u got a new sub.
Cheers
Just what I was looking for ❤️
Guys if you own a Sony A7iii you can create the s cinetone look with some changes to your picture profile, theres a few vids on you tube that gives you the settings that will match the a7siii cinetone look
gracias!!!!! llevo viendo barios videos porque estoy a 1 día de recibir mi a7s3, muy excitado intentando aprender de antemano lo más posible ya que vengo de una canon 60d! ajajaja en fin, me fue de mucha ayuda tu video, muchas gracias!
Hi, thanks to share your interesting video. I'd like to ask a question please: I make only documentaries in 4K around the world, I don't take Pics. I take interest about a good image quality of the video. I only shoot handheld footage and never use the tripod, does it have a good stabilizer? Do you suggest this Sony A7 IV camera for 4K videos? Thanks you.
Friend, in which part of Sony's website do I see the ISO settings suitable for all color profiles?
Hi Matt what Len were you using to shot this video look so sharp?
It might be dumb, but for a video novice… since SS is a set speed (depending on what you want 24, 30, 60 fps) and aperture is set to what DOF you want (set f-stop); then can’t you just put ISO in Auto and let the camera do this rest?
Baller video man, thank you!!!
best video so far seen.. heads down.. can you please make a video on how to setup davinci (from scratch with project setting till rendering) for both s-cinetone and slog
Stupid question. My camera says that picture profile is off and i dint know how to turn it on
My MM doesn't show up even after setting it to multi in settings. Any help?
hey Matt very informative as usual
one question though the lcd screen on the a7s3 looks way warmer than the
evf
do i trust the evf or the lcd for white balance ?
thank you
I would compare footage you copy to your computer to the footage on your lcd and evf and see which one looks more accurate
Thanks! Others have been suggesting zebras at 109+ which makes no sense. I'm loving S-cinetone for livestreaming on my A1.
How can I find the scinetone on my sony a7IV?
Hey Matt, Sub #789 here. Refreshing my memory of using S Cinetone, and while looking at your menu, I see 24p at the top. I have a FX3 but can't get 24p out of it! What do I do.
Hello my friend. Works your setup in fx3?
Yes :)
Anyone know why at 7:42 the 12800 looks better than the 10000? I thought it was dual native ISO meaning there are only 2 ISO's where the image will look best. I don't understand how this works at 10K vs 12800
In slog3 native ISO is 640 and 12800
can you use cinetone 11 for pictures as well
Nice! The thing I'm curious about is how well the a7siii holds up when you shoot in s-log but set the gamma to s-cinetone. Any thoughts on that one?
Watch my previous video from last week 😉
@@whoismatt Aha thanks Matt!
I've been looking for a pp where I don't have to overexpose, ty so much!
👍👍
Hey Matt, wonderful video as always. Can you make a video that compares pictures profiles between sony and panasonic cameras. I know that you used to shoot with a GH5.
Came to watch a 10 minute ad
any change do you know if would pe possible to create similar cine tone colors on a fs7??
And with the emulator for a7iii?
Matt, is there an internal HDR video mode or setting? I want my A1 to film HDR internally like my iPhone 12 Pro Max. Possible?
Film in Slog or HLG and use an HDR workflow when editing. It will take more work than your iPhone though
@@whoismatt I just realized that playing with a new A1 and 135 GM. I used HLG and filmed common objects under room lighting. Wow, the footage is so much cleaner than from iPhones. The HDR effects were seen with chrome and lights. Not to the extend of iPhone footage, but with far more resolution. I will upgrade my A1 fir wear and try out HLG3 next.
Excellent thanks for the video!!!
Does this work for the a6400??
thank you bro!
Matt is king!!
Hahaha thank you
Fabulous stuff thanks!
Thank you Matt
If I get it right then it´s a great difference filming at night with PP11 or S-LOG 3. ISO 2000 vs. ISO 12.800. So S-LOG 3 is not only for dynamic range with lights and shadows but also for shooting at night or under dark conditions.?
ISO values are not relative to exposure for gamma profiles.
@@richardnayfilms2812 Sorry, Richard I don´t understand your comment.
@@MANGO-FILM Using ISO 2000 with S Cinetone is not the same exposure value as ISO 2000 with SLOG. Therefore, the fact that SLOG can go to ISO 12,800 as its second native ISO doesn't mean that exposure level is that much higher than another profile.
No specific profile has any advantage in low light.
@@richardnayfilms2812 Oh, thanks Richard
Thank you so much!Very Very helpful!!!
When recording in S-Cinetone should I record 10 bit or 8 bit? I've been doing a lot of 10 bit and it looks great. Just not sure if it's placebo or what though. Just curious if it is a waste to record this way in 10 bit.
I would always record in 10 bit. It will give you more flexibility if you need to shift the colors
@@whoismatt Hey thanks so much for the immediate response! Love the videos! Greatly appreciate it!
so is it just a jpeg preset with a fancy name? or is there something i have missed?
Is a cinetone for stills as well
Is this on the a7c?
a7siii :)
Hey Matt, I just wanted to know if one should use s-cinetone in 8-bit colour or not. I've recently faced some weird skin colours in my a7siii while shooting in 8bit 100fps mode in 1080p.
Can you please address this!
Also I am a small time TH-cam creator and do highly appreciate what you are doing!
Hey I would always film in 10 bit. There’s really no reason to use 8 bit on the a7siii, even in 100fps 1080p