My thought of Re -displacement is replacement of thoughts . so here my view : Leo lost his memory in the trauma of losing his mother in woods.So he decided to take help from Dr. Michael .She tried to dive into his thought processes to revive his memory . He wanted to look back into his long term memory (losing his mother which he couldn't forget) to search for the mother but each time he got distracted and ended up being somewhere else -as the girl in the end mentioned that its not once but several times him being coming to the woods ....he wanted to fing his mother but failed . The girl in the end suggests him to build new memories instead of looking back and not to trust Dr. Michael because she built out thing out of his imagination so what he saw and thought was altered and not the truth . When the girl in the end says that you must be in a hurry signifies that he is still in the middle of the process under Dr. Michael coz he was not able to remember short term memories any longer but only long term memories.. Thanks for giving time to read my thoughts ....
David Williams yep they usually just means you’re hiding something or wanting to hide something that they did personally so that you always look at their side of the agenda and say it’s right and agree with their side of things
Julia Connell Nothing is ever too complicated to explain if you don’t trust somebody you say that to them because you feel like they won’t agree with what you have to say if you have open trust with the human beings around you and the people who you are personally friends with then you can and should be able to tell them anything no matter how complicated and if they are your friend or family and truly love and accept you they will accept it no matter how bad it is even if you were in the wrong, never say anything is too complicated if it was we wouldn’t have a world the way we have it and people would just say oh no I can’t explain how to make This whatever I have created because it’s too complicated nothing is too complicated unless you make it complicated. Only people who have trust issues for some reason or another say it’s complicated because they trust no one because they’ve either been hurt or they’re just fucking crazy and only trust the demons in their own mind to tell them who to trust and if you’re that ladder person you need a break out of that shell and realize we’re all human here It’s just some of us can be trusted and some of us can’t ! surround yourself with those you can trust even if it’s a very small group of just four or five people maybe two people everybody needs someone they can trust to not judge them and just accept them for who they are or what they have done it’s like me I hate nobody I treat everybody the same no matter what color creed or nationality or sexuality or religion I love and hate everybody the same If you tell me something it goes nowhere except back to you if you ! Now if you fuck with my freedom my friends or my family I’ll fuck you up
@@an_what --🤔There are monsters you cannot 'eff up' --not with the limited human 'power'😂of human.... For example chem trails and alll the 💩falling down from is defiiniitely effing with your Fam.,friends,associates,and,WHAT are you ABLE to DO to 'EFF Up" the guilty? NOTHING....because has become too powerful.
I don't think the therapist is an actual living, breathing character. I think she's a manifestation of his conscious mind, kind of talking him through self healing and his struggles with recovery from a trauma that left him isolated, mentally. Excellent film!
Psychological dramas often become tiresome, but this one has a nice pace even with Dr's guidance or prodding into his memories. There is something distrustful about the Dr's instruction, but his meeting with a new girl in the woods is equally disconcerting. At this point, I suspect he is merely broken and the minds normally evasive blocking of bad memories is being eroded by the Dr's pursuit to uncover this painful memory.
I have a much different take. I don't think the doctor is manufacturing the images because she says "I can't see what you're seeing - this is all your creation." The therapy involves drugs to diminish his short term memory to gain easier access to his long term recollections. His subconscious is continually trying to divert him from recalling the suppressed memory to prevent the trauma of remembering it. The woman at the end is his own subconscious, manifested by the treatment into a separate character. "She" (his subconscious) appears at the end of each session when he runs away from his memories, distracting him from recalling the truth believing it is the best for him, pushing him at the end to "Make new memories, fill your mind with something else" though each time he gets a little closer to full recollection. Which is best for the man, his sub-conscious or the doctor's approach, to never recall or face the trauma, is left to the viewer to decide... perhaps some memories are best left buried from recollection.
I liked the concept of what memories are really being explored when you look to the past since the mind changes what really happened. This would be interesting in a longer form.
I was thinking the same thing...I really want this to be the first part of a feature film! Where they left off, it made for an excellent plot point for a much longer, fascinating full length film! I so want more!
Ahhh, this was very different from what I gathered from the trailer! The cinematography here was brilliant - excellent use of analog and practical effects to make a shot seem other-worldly, precise and atmospheric lighting... all the hallmarks of a team with a coherent vision for the creation of an engrossing story, visually and conceptually. Leo was convincingly vulnerable and confused, and I loved the little details like pulling his shirtsleeves over his hands in the forest as a coping mechanism for his stress and discomfort. Well done!
I’m so excited we finally got to see this! I was as confused as Leo lmao but it really makes us reflect on things in the end... and i loved how the soundtrack works here and helps create this atmosphere, idk, I really felt like I was being sucked into the story... congrats to everyone involved on this project 🙌
Memories make us who we are. What we are. Existence is memory. Never forget. But also try to never regret. Learn, adapt, and adjust. Choices. Thoughts. Dreams. And above all...acceptance.
The surreal dreamscape of this film was brilliantly executed! And, I really loved the point at the end that was made, about how you can make different, better choices with your life, to create new memories, which, in turn, of course, will help you shape your life for the better as those new, happier memories are created thanks to your choosing differently. It's a point that of especially profound significance for me in my own life right now, and really has me reflecting on the choices I make within it, and how I can make ones that bring about a happier future for myself. Thank you so much for airing this film! It's a profound, beautiful work of art that needs to be shared!
The music and audio track on this one really is quite powerful. It reminds me somewhat of the 2002 remake of Solaris. It's quite the experience. Thank you.
Fascinating short sci-fi film full of mystery and visual power. I was compelled by Leo's journey and the idea of therapy or hypnosis presented as a physical process was a great idea. The film reminded me of a more cerebral and methodical version of Source Code (love that film too!) Great acting and direction too.
I like the message of "make new memories/move on/ get over it" however, thats just not enough unless we are also meant to be confused about whether Leo/Neo is awake, is dreaming, or his mind has split into 2. In the final scene, He is going to leave with the unidentified woman and that look back at the forest conveys a message of leaving all of that behind him and then "going for the drive" is starting the new journey but, even though it is not stated, I get the feeling that he is moving forward in the real world because it ends with out him waking or returning to the therapist. Neo did say that he felt like he was in a dream and then when approaching the car he said he could hear an alarm Do I actually understand it? I know that in my waking life, I can remember dreams but in my dreams my waking life doesnt exist nor have I ever recalled a dream from within a dream(that I can recall :-), nor have I re-imagined/contemplated my waking life as I would a dream, from with in the dream. However I have, only once, falling asleep in a dream and started dreaming . a dream with in a dream. ( The one I remember was vivid, epic and made no sense ) This would be my interpretation of why he cant remember the things that happened to him and his mother from this reality. He also doesnt really ever remember much of anything no matter which setting he landed in, leading me to believe that he is having a dream with in a dream and this short is illustrating his subconscious dealing with the trauma that happened to him .. please feel free to correct me if you got this far and this is not what's happening.
You're right, a lot of our recent shorts have been darker with more internal struggles, but coming up soon we'll have some lighter stories with more external journeys. Thank you for watching!
@@watchdust I think it is because the emphasis of "make new memories" was to short, it needed more conversation about it to drive the point home. It was like almost a blip on the screen/A non issue,,,, when it was the main point. IMO
I love Dust and the ideas presented. But I will say that a story usually has a beginning, a middle and an end. Sometimes their stories are missing a part of these.
I wrote about a year ago that this is the way that most of the Dust movies have become. This may sound harsh but the thinking is this. "I will leave it open ended and someone will see it, love it and give me lots of money to finish it. Then it will win lots of awards and I will be rich and famous." This almost never happens. It could happen I suppose but you would have better chances of getting rich putting the money you spent on making this film in to buying lottery tickets. Again, I know this is harsh but it is the reality of the world we live in.
This story reminds me of Akutagawa's story "In a grove". Each of the heroes presented her/his version of the past, which is obscured literally in a grove. But this short-films gives too many explanations. What kind of re-displacement is it? Re-displacement of traumatic memories? Re-displacement of memories for finding clues to solve some mystery? Or maybe even it's LITERALLY re-displacement in time and space?
I lost a friend the love of my life who on a Friday said I love you see you on Monday and i never heard from or saw them again, I wonder often what happened to that person whom I loved so dearly but I do not dwell on it,
jelly just Sounding rather nonchalant about the love of your life whose whereabouts you seem none too interested in discerning. You seem outright flaky or otherwise just sputtering untruths.
Karl Friedrich Gerster Currently, in the present circumstances, given the global destruction wrought by the lovely Coronavirus, my considered opinion is that all three of the possibilities you list are indistinguishable from one another. Wouldn’t you think?
This is great. I want this to be the beginning of a book. A book because I want the images to be my own constructions. Think that fits this narrative, makes it more real maybe? Never ever thought or felt something like this about a film before..
That's a great point! We'd be interested to read a novel of this story and see how our imagination adapts the visuals. We're glad this film gave you such a unique experience!
@@watchdust Sort of related. As young I read this novel by Doris Lessing: "Briefing for a Descent Into Hell". I do not remember much except that it can be read as a sci-fi or a story about a mentally ill person. It's up to the reader to decide. So here is what Good Reads have to say about it: "A fascinating look inside the mind of a man who is supposedly “mad.” Professor Charles Watkins of Cambridge University is a patient at a mental hospital where the doctors try with increasing drugs to bring his mind under control. But Watkins has embarked on a tremendous psychological adventure where, after spinning endlessly on a raft in the Atlantic, he lands on a tropical island inhabited by strange creatures with strange customs. Later, he is carried off on a cosmic journey into space…" www.goodreads.com/book/show/372392.Briefing_for_a_Descent_Into_Hell If this short film was a first chapter in a novel I imagine it could be written by Jeff Noon. Jeff Noon because It's easy to think about Alice in Wonderland watching this film I think, and that you find references to Alice in his work. Also Noon deals with psychological issues.
@@watchdust If you are seriously making a reading list here is more for your pile. All of these are maybe not strictly sci-fi btw, but surely lives in the same district: Jeff Noon (Dark and trippy) “Falling out of Cars” is really great but a bit big and heavy maybe. So I think I would recommend to start with “Vurt” or “Polen”. Paolo Bacigalupi (Definitely Sci-fi) “The Windup Girl” great book. But “Pump Six and Other Stories” a collection of short stories is good to, and with the same type of atmosphere as above mentioned Novel. Will Self (Mad) “The quantity theory of insanity” and “grey area” are both good collections of short stories that reflects Self's insane realities well. Neil Gaiman (Gothic and fun) Author of “American Goods”. His short story collection “Fragile things” is a great introduction to his universe.
I got the impression that he killed his mother and was repressing the memory, hence the therapy sessions. And his long sleeves were the straight jacket that he was returned to after the session. Or perhaps it was my own memory that confused me. Maybe I should see a psychiatrist to find out the truth....
Just when my attention was starting to wane, suddenly I was locked in, completely. This was pretty good. Can't say why, maybe it's the questions it brings up and leaves you with? Congrats on a good thought provoking short.
I felt the same way...The imagery drew me but I was curious as to where this was all heading towards! I also started looking at the details trying to see if there were clues but then the next scene would throw me off lol!
@@lizafigueroa3353 yeah I was waiting for that clincher. The giveaway like "it was the butler with a candle stick" type of closing but nope. So many ways this thing could go. Simple therapy with his mind rejecting it, memory tampering but who's the one tampering? The therapist or is the girl in the forest a malicious memory implant? So many ways.
I wonder if, because this is a film about short term/long term memory, they used imagery and music to distract us and mess up what we remembered about the film and the answers have been there along...and because we do not know the answer we will ponder about it instead of moving on...feels like a David Lynch movie but less weird lol
The woman he sees is his mother's abductor. He saw the abductor's face when he was a child, the sight of the abductor indicates he is close to the truth. This is so painful, it triggers within him an avoidance response. ("Don't trust the process," "Be suspicious of the doctor and what you're seeing," "Don't worry about finding truth, look to future", etc...) These comments are his subconscious trying to move him away from the truth. But the fact that the woman asks him to go for a ride suggests he did not successfully redirect himself.
The human mind still has some great mysteries surrounding it. That concept is largely untapped by most sci-fi... and this short proves it. I really enjoyed this. Creative & different
Nicely done, but a little confusing. That would be ok in a longer film, where later scenes add definition and explanation to the earlier ones, but here we're left wondering about just a little too much. Also, some audio issues (which seem to be really common in these short films) make it difficult to follow the dialog of the male actor. I'd really like to see more of this story line.
Totally Agree. Electronic music can Add Atmosphere, but Over-loud, over-dubbed Soundtrack ruined this Short. If get the impression some Productions "assume" Electronic music is a Necessity to convey "Future Realities", when low 'Classical' can be just as effective! Even 'No Music' can be used to allow us mere humans to concentrate enough to get where the Production is trying to "Take" us, especially in a Dialogue driven narrative like this. Pity. +
Very thought-provoking. The mind can be a twisted labyrinth full of jumbled files from the past, or an organized library subject to recall at will, depending upon proper training.
Very much enjoyed this. The dream-like metaphors are reminiscent of the dream-state as we reminisce consciously about our journey therein. The soundtrack here was just as important in conveying the creators' message as are the other cinematic elements. Thanks!
Another great piece - thank you Dust and the creative people behind this - so - interesting concept - life after death or little boy lost REALLY remembering his mum, what she was like, what she would want him to know and hear... interesting
I'm not sure of what I was made to try to understand exactly, personally, apart some of the obvious bit on memory, possibly. This was very well done. Thank You.
Handled differently, would have just been a collection of stunning-yet-disparate images. But instead there was a current of dreamy connection and story that was right to connect all these scenes (memories) together. Also fantastic use of light color and shadow. 👍👍
Each viewer interprets this film in his own way. In the first scene, we see a psychotherapist who wants to use a new method of therapy to help the boy, Leo. We do not see that she has any bad intentions. In the first moments, the boy hears the voice of the psychotherapist. But then her voice disappears. The boy is then "attacked" by his own personified thoughts. His thoughts are fighting in his head. Until he finally meets this girl in the woods who says, "Let's make new memories." But she questions the psychotherapist's good intentions first. This is an allegory of abnegation (as the title of the film suggests). The idea of "Let's make new memories" seems pretty good at first. But this is only an escape from the problem, not a solution to it. The film shows an interesting phenomenon - emotions affect our memories and can change them over time. We are not sure that Leo's memories are exactly what he saw as a child. The girl is a personified emotion who wants to modify Leo's memories in order to save him.
This Video brings up an interesting value of psychotherapy. Is it better for an individual to face a painful memory obviously blocked by its traumatic effect OR are teaching coping or distracting memories a better safer approach to allow a broken human mind to move on to a productive happier life. I've known some children that have experienced and witnessed horrible sights that seem to never "get over" those memories. They didn't seem to block that trauma as others have. Personally, I don't prefer to endure long drawn out psychological dramas with a further painful twist at the end. Life provides all of the pain and anguish I need without wallowing in misery by choice.
I enjoyed this, though one small technical detail: When filming a short scene over a long period of time and there is a clock on the wall, disconnect the clock's battery so that the audience will not see the time drastically changing due to edits...
The opening couple of sentences put me in mind of Pink Floyd's, Comfortably Numb . Interesting topic with the on going research in neural networks , some day in the future this short might come across as a documentary. Excellent stuff.
Very well directed and a great ensemble of good actors made it very watchable. I'll admit to being a bit confused at the end. Was the woman in the forest his mother? Trying to tell him to move on with his life? Not sure, but interesting.....
I was actually thinking, the signs on all of those trees, "Missing" and then coming the car, that even the Dr knew. That's why he said, "how did u know". Then he clearly sees blood & then something in the boot, which would have been a body. Then when he walks away, it's like he has "gone off track of his memory" as the girl says about making new memories, and then asks him if he wants to go for a drive, as she's got a car. I'm thinking that maybe it's that girls body in the boot of that car. If he keeps coming back, like she said. Maybe this time, he doesn't want to "think" anymore & goes, but something happens. He got that memory, shoved right back in his mind & that's why he can't remember anything. I know that i have experienced something like that. It wasn't until a family member & one of their friends, had to really jog my memory something stupid. It was like i blocked it out completely, as if nothing ever happened..!! I do remember one part of the memory, & i thought that was all that happened. It was like a REALITY CHECK did a good number on my subconscious mind..!! I hope u can understand what i am trying to explain. I now have short term memory problems, from having a few mini strokes. The mind is a very powerful & can manipulate itself. Seriously..!! *No intent to upset in anyone, in any way shape nor form *.
We always look at this from perspective of the patient I wonder if someone will take a chance and flip this where we see the same but from the perspective of the therapist., and I'm wondering what would happen if therapist could not get out of the patient's head using this technology what would be the result?
I get it now, he died ,& now he trying to locate his killer, who may or may not be that women in the woods, it was his mother in the trunk of that car, who he actually killed ,earlier in the dream...., the therapist is an angel who guides him back to his past , to show that he was a serial killer, the women in the woods ,just happens to be a time traveler, who somehow crossed over into a doorway that transcends time & space,.. she then gains his trust and they walk thru this time portal gate & ....hmm maybe not, I don't really get this one.. nevermind.
it's a very advanced technology, the human brain is complicated, it's difficult to create from neur connections, some specific mental events, good short sci fi
mike - This is a story of a boy that found his kidnapped mother dead in the trunk of her car and the experience was so traumatizing that he erased all memory of her. The therapy sessions were to get him to revisit the experience and the trauma, process the emotions and replace those memories with new ones...hence the woman (looked similar to his mother) at the end, sitting next to his bicycle in the woods that said she left her car over there in the woods, do you want to go for a ride.
Absolutely agree. It was a short but smart twist on the trope of 'solving childhood trauma' and well made. And thanks to the makers for making something hopeful!
@@mx_lei It doesn't have to be a definite ending, but the story still has to have conclusion, and many of Dust just don't have them. It's too abrupt as well.
The woman at the end is the same woman in the missing posters. I figured, before the sessions of trying to remember his mother, he murdered that woman. He just doesn't remember.
Me: Scrolling through TH-cam *Notices video* Also me: "Is this a movie about vloggers finding a body in the woods?" 😂 Edit: Nvm they changed the thumbnail lol
@@martinmclean5985 Google defines subconscious as "of or concerning the part of the mind of which one is not fully aware but which influences one's actions and feelings".
He is so disoriented so lost with his short term present memory .. still follows the doctors instructions word by word at a instance??? I would freak out like shouting monster ... keep away and cry and dozed off
The woman at end is his mother ? Anyway, he is still in such trauma I bet perhaps finding his mother in the trunk dead and grusome. But good old tech. Can now make you face it and accept a new way to see his mother, and heal perhaps.
My thought of Re -displacement is replacement of thoughts .
so here my view : Leo lost his memory in the trauma of losing his mother in woods.So he decided to take help from Dr. Michael .She tried to dive into his thought processes to revive his memory . He wanted to look back into his long term memory (losing his mother which he couldn't forget) to search for the mother but each time he got distracted and ended up being somewhere else -as the girl in the end mentioned that its not once but several times him being coming to the woods ....he wanted to fing his mother but failed .
The girl in the end suggests him to build new memories instead of looking back and not to trust Dr. Michael because she built out thing out of his imagination so what he saw and thought was altered and not the truth .
When the girl in the end says that you must be in a hurry signifies that he is still in the middle of the process under Dr. Michael coz he was not able to remember short term memories any longer but only long term memories..
Thanks for giving time to read my thoughts ....
Huh. I was juussst thinkin'. Nice one.👍🏾
The Girl IS the real memory of his mother.................
When someone says "trust me, it's too complicated to explain " - Don't trust them.
Hmmm *sometimes* it REALLY is complicated, and a little trust is involved
@Bruce IDW what? Lol nah then you need an explanation. Smh
David Williams yep they usually just means you’re hiding something or wanting to hide something that they did personally so that you always look at their side of the agenda and say it’s right and agree with their side of things
Julia Connell Nothing is ever too complicated to explain if you don’t trust somebody you say that to them because you feel like they won’t agree with what you have to say if you have open trust with the human beings around you and the people who you are personally friends with then you can and should be able to tell them anything no matter how complicated and if they are your friend or family and truly love and accept you they will accept it no matter how bad it is even if you were in the wrong, never say anything is too complicated if it was we wouldn’t have a world the way we have it and people would just say oh no I can’t explain how to make This whatever I have created because it’s too complicated nothing is too complicated unless you make it complicated. Only people who have trust issues for some reason or another say it’s complicated because they trust no one because they’ve either been hurt or they’re just fucking crazy and only trust the demons in their own mind to tell them who to trust and if you’re that ladder person you need a break out of that shell and realize we’re all human here It’s just some of us can be trusted and some of us can’t ! surround yourself with those you can trust even if it’s a very small group of just four or five people maybe two people everybody needs someone they can trust to not judge them and just accept them for who they are or what they have done it’s like me I hate nobody I treat everybody the same no matter what color creed or nationality or sexuality or religion I love and hate everybody the same If you tell me something it goes nowhere except back to you if you ! Now if you fuck with my freedom my friends or my family I’ll fuck you up
@@an_what --🤔There are monsters you cannot 'eff up' --not with the limited human 'power'😂of human.... For example chem trails and alll the 💩falling down from is defiiniitely effing with your Fam.,friends,associates,and,WHAT are you ABLE to DO to 'EFF Up" the guilty? NOTHING....because has become too powerful.
I don't think the therapist is an actual living, breathing character. I think she's a manifestation of his conscious mind, kind of talking him through self healing and his struggles with recovery from a trauma that left him isolated, mentally. Excellent film!
I love when people can make great Scifi films without doing instense cgi.
Real effects and solid storytelling go a long way. (Real effects CAN be expensive, however, so there's that limitation)
I love how many unoriginal trite comments are there. If the story is good, CGI or special effects won't mess that up
Psychological dramas often become tiresome, but this one has a nice pace even with Dr's guidance or prodding into his memories. There is something distrustful about the Dr's instruction, but his meeting with a new girl in the woods is equally disconcerting. At this point, I suspect he is merely broken and the minds normally evasive blocking of bad memories is being eroded by the Dr's pursuit to uncover this painful memory.
There was not much sci-fi in this one though
I agree being an anti CGI guy myself and lover of sci-fi from the 60s, 70s and 80s
I have a much different take. I don't think the doctor is manufacturing the images because she says "I can't see what you're seeing - this is all your creation." The therapy involves drugs to diminish his short term memory to gain easier access to his long term recollections.
His subconscious is continually trying to divert him from recalling the suppressed memory to prevent the trauma of remembering it. The woman at the end is his own subconscious, manifested by the treatment into a separate character. "She" (his subconscious) appears at the end of each session when he runs away from his memories, distracting him from recalling the truth believing it is the best for him, pushing him at the end to "Make new memories, fill your mind with something else" though each time he gets a little closer to full recollection.
Which is best for the man, his sub-conscious or the doctor's approach, to never recall or face the trauma, is left to the viewer to decide... perhaps some memories are best left buried from recollection.
I liked the concept of what memories are really being explored when you look to the past since the mind changes what really happened. This would be interesting in a longer form.
I was thinking the same thing...I really want this to be the first part of a feature film! Where they left off, it made for an excellent plot point for a much longer, fascinating full length film! I so want more!
Ha this is filmed in my home town, the building at the start is an art gallery
I wondered that. Where is the art gallery?
@@simonroyjonesuk It's on the River Calder
nico deserves so much more attention. he’s amazing.
Ahhh, this was very different from what I gathered from the trailer! The cinematography here was brilliant - excellent use of analog and practical effects to make a shot seem other-worldly, precise and atmospheric lighting... all the hallmarks of a team with a coherent vision for the creation of an engrossing story, visually and conceptually. Leo was convincingly vulnerable and confused, and I loved the little details like pulling his shirtsleeves over his hands in the forest as a coping mechanism for his stress and discomfort. Well done!
I’m so excited we finally got to see this! I was as confused as Leo lmao but it really makes us reflect on things in the end... and i loved how the soundtrack works here and helps create this atmosphere, idk, I really felt like I was being sucked into the story... congrats to everyone involved on this project 🙌
Thank you for your thoughtful review! Glad you were immersed in the story!
I wish some of these wernt short films. Like they all have to production quality to be full feature length films. Well not all, but this one for sure
Memories make us who we are. What we are. Existence is memory. Never forget. But also try to never regret. Learn, adapt, and adjust.
Choices.
Thoughts.
Dreams.
And above all...acceptance.
The surreal dreamscape of this film was brilliantly executed! And, I really loved the point at the end that was made, about how you can make different, better choices with your life, to create new memories, which, in turn, of course, will help you shape your life for the better as those new, happier memories are created thanks to your choosing differently. It's a point that of especially profound significance for me in my own life right now, and really has me reflecting on the choices I make within it, and how I can make ones that bring about a happier future for myself. Thank you so much for airing this film! It's a profound, beautiful work of art that needs to be shared!
"Memory is a place where the dead still rule, and all of their wars are... unfinished."
-- shamanic proverb
Thank you so much for the Shamanic proverb. Powerful.
Wow...
The music and audio track on this one really is quite powerful. It reminds me somewhat of the 2002 remake of Solaris. It's quite the experience. Thank you.
Fascinating short sci-fi film full of mystery and visual power. I was compelled by Leo's journey and the idea of therapy or hypnosis presented as a physical process was a great idea. The film reminded me of a more cerebral and methodical version of Source Code (love that film too!) Great acting and direction too.
A good beginning to a possible full story. Actors are great, just not enough material.
Also, why do my local Mormon Sunday School teachers resemble these beautiful actresses! Distracting!
The music and sound effects at times drown out the dialogue
Agreed. I tossed it when the unnecessary background sound never relented.
Same - Over Loud Electronic music was causing Re-verb in my Speakers ! Nothing Worse and Nothing Better to ruin a Short Film ! Pity.
Yeah, RIP headphone users late at night when the music kicks in
no problem for regular users. maybe you should just try it with the sound low, like the rest of us. its worth it.
Excellent even though i don’t have the slightest clue to what the hell is going on!!!💪🏽👍🏾
You have to admit that is the earmark of great filmmaking.
@@gailwinds Not really.
Not much was going on but some people like filling in the gaps even if the gaps are 99% of the movie
I like the message of "make new memories/move on/ get over it" however, thats just not enough unless we are also meant to be confused about whether Leo/Neo is awake, is dreaming, or his mind has split into 2. In the final scene, He is going to leave with the unidentified woman and that look back at the forest conveys a message of leaving all of that behind him and then "going for the drive" is starting the new journey but, even though it is not stated, I get the feeling that he is moving forward in the real world because it ends with out him waking or returning to the therapist. Neo did say that he felt like he was in a dream and then when approaching the car he said he could hear an alarm
Do I actually understand it? I know that in my waking life, I can remember dreams but in my dreams my waking life doesnt exist nor have I ever recalled a dream from within a dream(that I can recall :-), nor have I re-imagined/contemplated my waking life as I would a dream, from with in the dream. However I have, only once, falling asleep in a dream and started dreaming . a dream with in a dream. ( The one I remember was vivid, epic and made no sense )
This would be my interpretation of why he cant remember the things that happened to him and his mother from this reality. He also doesnt really ever remember much of anything no matter which setting he landed in, leading me to believe that he is having a dream with in a dream and this short is illustrating his subconscious dealing with the trauma that happened to him .. please feel free to correct me if you got this far and this is not what's happening.
All the technical elements and the acting were good. Felt like we were missing the ending however.
Do these all have to be dark stories with weird or bad non-endings?
You're right, a lot of our recent shorts have been darker with more internal struggles, but coming up soon we'll have some lighter stories with more external journeys. Thank you for watching!
Yeah. This one was pretty crap.
@@TheDarkOne508 Can you specify what didn't work for you? Thank you in advance for your further feedback!
@@watchdust I think it is because the emphasis of "make new memories" was to short, it needed more conversation about it to drive the point home. It was like almost a blip on the screen/A non issue,,,, when it was the main point. IMO
@@OliveSawyer2869 Thank you for sharing! We'll keep that in mind for our future films.
I love Dust and the ideas presented. But I will say that a story usually has a beginning, a middle and an end. Sometimes their stories are missing a part of these.
I wrote about a year ago that this is the way that most of the Dust movies have become. This may sound harsh but the thinking is this. "I will leave it open ended and someone will see it, love it and give me lots of money to finish it. Then it will win lots of awards and I will be rich and famous." This almost never happens. It could happen I suppose but you would have better chances of getting rich putting the money you spent on making this film in to buying lottery tickets. Again, I know this is harsh but it is the reality of the world we live in.
Agree with both of you
I think they idea of shorts is to give you a vignette and make you ponder about different subjects... not a full blown story...
This story reminds me of Akutagawa's story "In a grove". Each of the heroes presented her/his version of the past, which is obscured literally in a grove. But this short-films gives too many explanations. What kind of re-displacement is it? Re-displacement of traumatic memories? Re-displacement of memories for finding clues to solve some mystery? Or maybe even it's LITERALLY re-displacement in time and space?
These shorts are heaven on Earth
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Memories change with each recollection of them that effects the previous recollection.....nice one hello from Australia
I lost a friend the love of my life who on a Friday said I love you see you on Monday and i never heard from or saw them again, I wonder often what happened to that person whom I loved so dearly but I do not dwell on it,
jelly just Do you mean that they just stopped contacting you? Or did something happen to them that made contact impossible?
jelly just
Sounding rather nonchalant about the love of your life whose whereabouts you seem none too interested in discerning. You seem outright flaky or otherwise just sputtering untruths.
You didn't bother finding out what happened to them? Doubt it was the love of your life .weird
Same thing... I got lost, and don't know where I am.. Am I dead, unconscious or in hell?
Karl Friedrich Gerster Currently, in the present circumstances, given the global destruction wrought by the lovely Coronavirus, my considered opinion is that all three of the possibilities you list are indistinguishable from one another. Wouldn’t you think?
I put this on loop and watched it several times. Seamless.
This is really good. I'm not exactly sure if it's a cautionary tale or a story about searching for answers. Either way it's a good short.
This is great. I want this to be the beginning of a book. A book because I want the images to be my own constructions. Think that fits this narrative, makes it more real maybe? Never ever thought or felt something like this about a film before..
That's a great point! We'd be interested to read a novel of this story and see how our imagination adapts the visuals. We're glad this film gave you such a unique experience!
@@watchdust Sort of related. As young I read this novel by Doris Lessing: "Briefing for a Descent Into Hell".
I do not remember much except that it can be read as a sci-fi or a story about a mentally ill person. It's up to the reader to decide.
So here is what Good Reads have to say about it:
"A fascinating look inside the mind of a man who is supposedly “mad.” Professor Charles Watkins of Cambridge University is a patient at a mental hospital where the doctors try with increasing drugs to bring his mind under control. But Watkins has embarked on a tremendous psychological adventure where, after spinning endlessly on a raft in the Atlantic, he lands on a tropical island inhabited by strange creatures with strange customs. Later, he is carried off on a cosmic journey into space…"
www.goodreads.com/book/show/372392.Briefing_for_a_Descent_Into_Hell
If this short film was a first chapter in a novel I imagine it could be written by Jeff Noon.
Jeff Noon because It's easy to think about Alice in Wonderland watching this film I think, and that you find references to Alice in his work. Also Noon deals with psychological issues.
@@jonaseggen2230 Thank you so much for sharing this! That's a solid comparison and we will make sure to add more of Noon's work to our reading lists!
@@watchdust If you are seriously making a reading list here is more for your pile. All of these are maybe not strictly sci-fi btw, but surely lives in the same district:
Jeff Noon
(Dark and trippy)
“Falling out of Cars” is really great but a bit big and heavy maybe.
So I think I would recommend to start with “Vurt” or “Polen”.
Paolo Bacigalupi
(Definitely Sci-fi)
“The Windup Girl” great book. But “Pump Six and Other Stories” a collection of short stories is good to, and with the same type of atmosphere as above mentioned Novel.
Will Self
(Mad)
“The quantity theory of insanity” and “grey area”
are both good collections of short stories that reflects Self's insane realities well.
Neil Gaiman
(Gothic and fun)
Author of “American Goods”. His short story collection “Fragile things” is a great introduction to his universe.
reading this in book form would be kinda meta...cool thought.
This 'short' would most certainly make a great 'long'.
Hope the DUST Never Settles.
Intriguing... thought provoking... I wasn't ready for it to end... I want more! I loved it!
I got hooked on the journey but got left in the woods without any answers :(
On the upside, good cinematography, well-acted.
Wonderfully done. Thank you. I do get the feeling this is the beginning of a longer film/series.
Thanks for watching and agreed, we would love to see the narrative expanded!
@@watchdust The narrative definitely has to be expanded so the audience is not left up in the air, and the story resolved.
I got the impression that he killed his mother and was repressing the memory, hence the therapy sessions. And his long sleeves were the straight jacket that he was returned to after the session. Or perhaps it was my own memory that confused me. Maybe I should see a psychiatrist to find out the truth....
Wrong.It's a story about a therapist who destroys a mans memory of his mother to keep him in treatment.
@@seanmchugh2866 Honey, your opinion is JUST an opinion not a fact. Especially considering there is no ending to this film.
I can't help being reminded of the movie 'Total Recall'
Just when my attention was starting to wane, suddenly I was locked in, completely. This was pretty good. Can't say why, maybe it's the questions it brings up and leaves you with? Congrats on a good thought provoking short.
I felt the same way...The imagery drew me but I was curious as to where this was all heading towards! I also started looking at the details trying to see if there were clues but then the next scene would throw me off lol!
@@lizafigueroa3353 yeah I was waiting for that clincher. The giveaway like "it was the butler with a candle stick" type of closing but nope. So many ways this thing could go. Simple therapy with his mind rejecting it, memory tampering but who's the one tampering? The therapist or is the girl in the forest a malicious memory implant? So many ways.
I wonder if, because this is a film about short term/long term memory, they used imagery and music to distract us and mess up what we remembered about the film and the answers have been there along...and because we do not know the answer we will ponder about it instead of moving on...feels like a David Lynch movie but less weird lol
@@lizafigueroa3353 that would take multiple watches, way too lazy for that.
This is beautifully shot. I first saw this as part of the Cell Adore Film Festival where it played alongside my film Scrable.
The woman he sees is his mother's abductor. He saw the abductor's face when he was a child, the sight of the abductor indicates he is close to the truth. This is so painful, it triggers within him an avoidance response. ("Don't trust the process," "Be suspicious of the doctor and what you're seeing," "Don't worry about finding truth, look to future", etc...) These comments are his subconscious trying to move him away from the truth. But the fact that the woman asks him to go for a ride suggests he did not successfully redirect himself.
The human mind still has some great mysteries surrounding it. That concept is largely untapped by most sci-fi... and this short proves it. I really enjoyed this. Creative & different
What? Most of sci-fi explores human mind and its mysteries, have you never read/watched good sci-fi at all?
Closed captions were bad, and the end is like: What the hell did I just watch.
Nicely done, but a little confusing. That would be ok in a longer film, where later scenes add definition and explanation to the earlier ones, but here we're left wondering about just a little too much. Also, some audio issues (which seem to be really common in these short films) make it difficult to follow the dialog of the male actor.
I'd really like to see more of this story line.
Totally Agree. Electronic music can Add Atmosphere, but Over-loud, over-dubbed Soundtrack ruined this Short. If get the impression some Productions "assume" Electronic music is a Necessity to convey "Future Realities", when low 'Classical' can be just as effective!
Even 'No Music' can be used to allow us mere humans to concentrate enough to get where the Production is trying to "Take" us, especially in a Dialogue driven narrative like this. Pity.
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Very thought-provoking. The mind can be a twisted labyrinth full of jumbled files from the past, or an organized library subject to recall at will, depending upon proper training.
Very good I am glad to see scifi that isn't post apocalypse wasteland or zombies had enough of those
Very much enjoyed this. The dream-like metaphors are reminiscent of the dream-state as we reminisce consciously about our journey therein. The soundtrack here was just as important in conveying the creators' message as are the other cinematic elements. Thanks!
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Happy anniversary of joining this planet! 🎉🎂
Excellent! This was meant to be more thought-provoking and for the reader(s) to reach their own conclusions of possibilities.
Have been waiting for it! At last it's here
Another great piece - thank you Dust and the creative people behind this - so - interesting concept - life after death or little boy lost REALLY remembering his mum, what she was like, what she would want him to know and hear... interesting
I'm not sure of what I was made to try to understand exactly, personally, apart some of the obvious bit on memory, possibly.
This was very well done. Thank You.
"Re-displacement"..pretty much describes my whole life in one word. this was interesting.
Missing your Sunday night streams but loving the new content!
Music really resonated with me
Always loved Dust and I love creating short films and music as well
Handled differently, would have just been a collection of stunning-yet-disparate images. But instead there was a current of dreamy connection and story that was right to connect all these scenes (memories) together. Also fantastic use of light color and shadow. 👍👍
Each viewer interprets this film in his own way. In the first scene, we see a psychotherapist who wants to use a new method of therapy to help the boy, Leo. We do not see that she has any bad intentions. In the first moments, the boy hears the voice of the psychotherapist. But then her voice disappears. The boy is then "attacked" by his own personified thoughts. His thoughts are fighting in his head. Until he finally meets this girl in the woods who says, "Let's make new memories." But she questions the psychotherapist's good intentions first. This is an allegory of abnegation (as the title of the film suggests).
The idea of "Let's make new memories" seems pretty good at first. But this is only an escape from the problem, not a solution to it.
The film shows an interesting phenomenon - emotions affect our memories and can change them over time. We are not sure that Leo's memories are exactly what he saw as a child. The girl is a personified emotion who wants to modify Leo's memories in order to save him.
This Video brings up an interesting value of psychotherapy. Is it better for an individual to face a painful memory obviously blocked by its traumatic effect OR are teaching coping or distracting memories a better safer approach to allow a broken human mind to move on to a productive happier life. I've known some children that have experienced and witnessed horrible sights that seem to never "get over" those memories. They didn't seem to block that trauma as others have. Personally, I don't prefer to endure long drawn out psychological dramas with a further painful twist at the end. Life provides all of the pain and anguish I need without wallowing in misery by choice.
How do they keep the mold out of that building?
Dang wish this was longer it was really good
Make new memories. Fill your mind with something else
Really enjoyed this Lewis Coates. Well done!
Is this a part 1? I want to see Leo find peace.
he found a girlfriend, so he probably won't have peace
I enjoyed this, though one small technical detail: When filming a short
scene over a long period of time and there is a clock on the wall, disconnect
the clock's battery so that the audience will not see the time
drastically changing due to edits...
The opening couple of sentences put me in mind of Pink Floyd's, Comfortably Numb . Interesting topic with the on going research in neural networks , some day in the future this short might come across as a documentary. Excellent stuff.
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Reminds me of the Black Mirror series, so good !
Very well directed and a great ensemble of good actors made it very watchable. I'll admit to being a bit confused at the end. Was the woman in the forest his mother? Trying to tell him to move on with his life? Not sure, but interesting.....
I was actually thinking, the signs on all of those trees, "Missing" and then coming the car, that even the Dr knew. That's why he said, "how did u know". Then he clearly sees blood & then something in the boot, which would have been a body. Then when he walks away, it's like he has "gone off track of his memory" as the girl says about making new memories, and then asks him if he wants to go for a drive, as she's got a car.
I'm thinking that maybe it's that girls body in the boot of that car. If he keeps coming back, like she said. Maybe this time, he doesn't want to "think" anymore & goes, but something happens. He got that memory, shoved right back in his mind & that's why he can't remember anything.
I know that i have experienced something like that. It wasn't until a family member & one of their friends, had to really jog my memory something stupid. It was like i blocked it out completely, as if nothing ever happened..!! I do remember one part of the memory, & i thought that was all that happened. It was like a REALITY CHECK did a good number on my subconscious mind..!!
I hope u can understand what i am trying to explain. I now have short term memory problems, from having a few mini strokes.
The mind is a very powerful & can manipulate itself. Seriously..!!
*No intent to upset in anyone, in any way shape nor form *.
Very good - well done.
It's left me wanting more of the story too... ☝️😎
extremely well done. and very unsettling, as good art often is. I'll have to come back to this again, after it settles, see what else I see here.
That's a great idea - we'd love to know how your thoughts develop on a second watch!
Don't live in the past. You have your life fresh long ahead so move from the past and live in the present.
Without subtitles I could understand only partially. It seems somehow interesting but I cannot judge. Damn.
We always look at this from perspective of the patient I wonder if someone will take a chance and flip this where we see the same but from the perspective of the therapist., and I'm wondering what would happen if therapist could not get out of the patient's head using this technology what would be the result?
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I get it now, he died ,& now he trying to locate his killer, who may or may not be that women in the woods, it was his mother in the trunk of that car, who he actually killed ,earlier in the dream...., the therapist is an angel who guides him back to his past , to show that he was a serial killer, the women in the woods ,just happens to be a time traveler, who somehow crossed over into a doorway that transcends time & space,.. she then gains his trust and they walk thru this time portal gate & ....hmm maybe not, I don't really get this one.. nevermind.
it's a very advanced technology, the human brain is complicated, it's difficult to create from neur connections, some specific mental events, good short sci fi
Fantastic film! Very powerful and intriguing!!!! Great work to all involved!
and what is the conclusion ?
Bravooooo!!! I *loved* it!
This was incomplete, no ending; wouldn't recommend wasting time one this one.
mike - This is a story of a boy that found his kidnapped mother dead in the trunk of her car and the experience was so traumatizing that he erased all memory of her. The therapy sessions were to get him to revisit the experience and the trauma, process the emotions and replace those memories with new ones...hence the woman (looked similar to his mother) at the end, sitting next to his bicycle in the woods that said she left her car over there in the woods, do you want to go for a ride.
@Jam Awesomeness opps noe Grammerly, lets see on no one mistake is the statement made. Cheers.
@@robynannan7015 Interesting. I thought it had something to do with reconditioning; totally missed the therapy part; makes sense now. Cheers.
Are you new here? This is how indi films roll. It is fantastic and a good mental exercise for us all.
@@AlgoRhythmmike FU
Thank you
Flipping heck. That was great. I'm going to need closure though.
Please and thanks.
Correct me if im wrong but isn't she the voice at the end of every Dust video telling us to watch more Dust videos?
I thought this was cool I don't know why I see people saying it was a waste of time in the comments
Thank you for watching and glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely agree. It was a short but smart twist on the trope of 'solving childhood trauma' and well made. And thanks to the makers for making something hopeful!
Beginning, part of the middle, starts to get interesting, fade to end credits.....
My head hurts every time I come to this channel. The movies are just too vague to get a point across.....if any.
Jo Gordon . Ah, but this is part of what mystery is, isn't it?
But I love the vagueness, the space the short gives me to work it out for myself
@@mx_lei It doesn't have to be a definite ending, but the story still has to have conclusion, and many of Dust just don't have them. It's too abrupt as well.
@@danielm.4346 Yeah, but the story also has to progress, not to drag along then end exactly where something started to happen?
The woman at the end is the same woman in the missing posters. I figured, before the sessions of trying to remember his mother, he murdered that woman. He just doesn't remember.
Me: Scrolling through TH-cam
*Notices video*
Also me: "Is this a movie about vloggers finding a body in the woods?" 😂
Edit: Nvm they changed the thumbnail lol
This short film had the worst teaser trailer ever! I had decided not to watch it because I found the trailer so bad. Thank Goodness I changed my mind!
Elizabeth Loftus would love this.
Im SO sad for him
Well done.
Great low-budget short. Is the woman at the end the characterisation of his ego?
I think the woman represents his subconscious.
@@zeckwiz unconscious, the conscious has no lower (sub) levels. There is only that which we are aware of and that which we are not aware of.
@@martinmclean5985 Google defines subconscious as "of or concerning the part of the mind of which one is not fully aware but which influences one's actions and feelings".
@@martinmclean5985 Lol you tried to be smartass and you FAILED miserably)) Go educate yourself before trying to ''educate'' other people, smarty pants
He is so disoriented so lost with his short term present memory .. still follows the doctors instructions word by word at a instance??? I would freak out like shouting monster ... keep away and cry and dozed off
Reminds me of the memory lounges in Fallout 4.
The first girls voice literally puts me in a trance
your "White noise" wipes out the speaking parts. Please fix it.
The woman at end is his mother ? Anyway, he is still in such trauma I bet perhaps finding his mother in the trunk dead and grusome. But good old tech. Can now make you face it and accept a new way to see his mother, and heal perhaps.
Wow this is great
I have no words