@Donny Podcast Yes, because I can say "I am". To say "I am" shows there is a presence there. "Jamie" is just basically a story, a character maybe sounds better. Persona translated in Latin means mask. The personality is just conditioned upon us but we take on thst personality and believe it is who we are.
I got married in 1990 at the age of 20 .. and divorced 1998. In hindsight I'd have been better off going in there instead .. would have been a lot less bother .
@Donnell Okafor that's true. We live in a throwaway society where natural affection no longer exists between people. It's all selfish and a "what can I get out of this?" mentality. Once marriages start showing cracks, it ends in divorce. Back in the day, like you said, people worked at their marriage and many of the older generation who went through the war years, were married for 40-50-60 years. That won't ever happen again in future generations.
Interesting I went through the young offenders system in the 80s through strangeways at it’s worst.Remember going through reception at strangeways and a screw was singing don’t laugh at me I laughed and he slapped me off my feet I was 17 years of age about 8 stone.Every man for himself in that world I didn’t understand the stupid choices I made as a teenager would impact the rest of my life.Nearly 60 now my advice if your Young struggling seek help there is always a alternative to criminal behaviour.Once you have a record the real punishment begins after your sentence especially in the workplace people don’t always forgive or forget easily and you can find yourself rejected pushed out.Heard a screw say cons are always bitchin about their rights don’t give a shit about anyone else’s rights in some cases that’s true there are two sides two perspectives to prison life.Life is to short to put yourself at the bottom of the pecking order ultimately we have to accept the consequences of our choices SO WISE UP.
I had similar experiences and am of a similar age to you. However, I went on to spend may years working with young offenders and found the work challenging and rewarding. One problem now is that young people believe that once they reach 18 any criminal record they have is wiped clean and of course it never is. Drugs are a much bigger problem now and the nonsense they believe that criminals never grass. Every criminal I knew would spill the beans when the time comes. The best way out of it is work and education but you need support for both of them and it's not always there. I always told kids 'Your history is not your destiny'.
I was in and out of Parva around the same time late 90’s early 2000’s. Been on most of the units 11 , 12 , 14 and 6 and then one time I went back and it changed to 18 to 21 the younger lads went to Onley and unit 1 or 2 became induction wing. I was living in Leicester at the time loads of Brunmie lads from Brinsford. The Cov lads were serious back in the day. Who remembers Mr French and Miss Prince shacked up with an ex prisoner got kids with him last I heard. Scrapping in the shower and on the stairs every time let out for food or workshop. Had some laughs in there.
Thank you so much for adding this. I saw it when it was first shown on TV and for years I have been typing it into TH-cam to see if anybody had added it. I was beginning to think I had dreamt it. Have you got any more of the episodes ?
It's a difficult one to find the answer to. Obviously kicking the living shit out of kids like they used to was always going to stop eventually but there's a reason kids are the way they are these days
Its a complete lack of anything to fear and being used to control space by the threat of violence, knowledge that no one bigger and badder in authority is going to come in and frighten you
The lad who said he doesn't want to learn, couldn't learn as he has adhd, they knew nothing about it back then , so you ended up in a place like that. I was one of them, and spent 5 years from 1986
@@michaelbradley3061 ok understand. Good point. It’s like when I was in Glen Parva a lot of lads were in there for heroin addiction crimes. But heroin wasn’t around my area at the time.
@@smith2781 “on the out” Manchester evening news with my name on this profile 😊 was addicted too for 25 + years. Check us out spent years in prison myself.
I got my first sentence in 1990 age 17 I was lucky as most of my good mates where already there. By the time I got out I'd learned from other inmates to cut phone wires and foam alarms, I became more prolific.
I was sentence to 12 months in glen parva for growing cannibis even tho it wasn't mine I just went in to rob it as ya do......but I tried turning of the electrical board they made and the house caught fire and that's how I got caught 2 months later..... I made 7 grand tho so it was ok but the prison was like a holiday camp shit food somebody kept shitting in the custard thank God I didn't hav it on my cake
I don't agree what the vicar said about "forgetting keeps you on the straight and narrow". I have CPTSD, and I have forgiven what my abusers have done to me, but I haven't forgotten what they did. Not forgetting the abuse, for me, has meant I've wanted more for myself and healed myself. I know many people who are the same as me. I have also had to remind others that forgiving someone doesn't mean being pally pally with them again, it can mean you aren't living with the constant pain, guilt and fear day in and day out. Forgiveness also means walking away from that person because forgiving them means you can forgive yourself for any hurt you are carrying ❤
The teacher is not good to see them make progress most people can learn, but only to a certain level i agree, but it was nice to see one person had some potential, i still feel its not feeling sorry for them, being firm they may have paid more attention, wonder what they are doing now? Hope things worked out for them.
Maths I agree is hard without the logic your going to struggle but how will you pass the exams without proper support you learn off others but make it fun then people often enjoy even basic learning is fun make it interesting people will pay more attention then I'm sure
Was on unit 2 in 1990 doing 18 months convicted wings werent too bad done xmas on unit 11 i think it was which was an allocation wing remember the twat i was in allocation with snored like a pig 😂😂😂
Yanno the boy with the glasses and the church bloke says about 4giving 4gettjng and then he says right is there anything you wanna ask or tell me the lad gave the most shocking sign like he wanted to say something bug didn't did no1 else pick up on that and then the lads was calling him a chucking but then he changed and started making a chicken noise..many he was just like me quite and stuff but deep down am fine nothing bothers me just very laid bk...well except from 1 thing ppl who lie cheap and steal of friends and family and ppl who hurt kids or old ppl or women or vulnerable ppl basically bullying that's 1 type of person I hatee
I always find last-minute "we need to cover our arses because our legal team spotted something" disclaimers over the credits like that to be eerie for inarticulable reasons. Lack of closing music doesn't help.
These boys will be in their early 50's now, amazing how quickly time flies.
Genuinely not sure time actually exists. Can't prove it but I have intutited it for a while now. Same with space.
@Donny Podcast Yes, because I can say "I am". To say "I am" shows there is a presence there. "Jamie" is just basically a story, a character maybe sounds better. Persona translated in Latin means mask. The personality is just conditioned upon us but we take on thst personality and believe it is who we are.
Your right im 54 was in parva when the riots where happening
Was there 89 90 and then a stint in 91 was on the same dining table as the lad in glasses unit 5 .for 15 months
Same here😂😂😂
I got married in 1990 at the age of 20 .. and divorced 1998. In hindsight I'd have been better off going in there instead .. would have been a lot less bother .
🤣🤣🤣
My brother got married in the summer of 1990 at the age of 21. It lasted 18m, so he'd probably agree with you on that one!!!
@Donnell Okafor that's true. We live in a throwaway society where natural affection no longer exists between people. It's all selfish and a "what can I get out of this?" mentality. Once marriages start showing cracks, it ends in divorce. Back in the day, like you said, people worked at their marriage and many of the older generation who went through the war years, were married for 40-50-60 years. That won't ever happen again in future generations.
Interesting I went through the young offenders system in the 80s through strangeways at it’s worst.Remember going through reception at strangeways and a screw was singing don’t laugh at me I laughed and he slapped me off my feet I was 17 years of age about 8 stone.Every man for himself in that world I didn’t understand the stupid choices I made as a teenager would impact the rest of my life.Nearly 60 now my advice if your Young struggling seek help there is always a alternative to criminal behaviour.Once you have a record the real punishment begins after your sentence especially in the workplace people don’t always forgive or forget easily and you can find yourself rejected pushed out.Heard a screw say cons are always bitchin about their rights don’t give a shit about anyone else’s rights in some cases that’s true there are two sides two perspectives to prison life.Life is to short to put yourself at the bottom of the pecking order ultimately we have to accept the consequences of our choices SO WISE UP.
Wise words mate👍
👍
I got the screw singing"come spend a little time with me"when I was sent to Northallerton YOI in 2001.
Britain's oldest jail in use.
I had similar experiences and am of a similar age to you. However, I went on to spend may years working with young offenders and found the work challenging and rewarding. One problem now is that young people believe that once they reach 18 any criminal record they have is wiped clean and of course it never is. Drugs are a much bigger problem now and the nonsense they believe that criminals never grass. Every criminal I knew would spill the beans when the time comes. The best way out of it is work and education but you need support for both of them and it's not always there. I always told kids 'Your history is not your destiny'.
Yep know except how you felt I was dragged from my bed and slapped around for pressing a cell bell in hindley 89
I was there in the late 90s. And thank god 🙏 because it did teach me a lesson.... DON'T GET CAUGHT.
I was in there in 1996
2006-2008 for me, orderly on 15, horrible place.
My brother was in there late 90s he said it was rough
5 y is long @@TheHoggcast
I was in and out of Parva around the same time late 90’s early 2000’s. Been on most of the units 11 , 12 , 14 and 6 and then one time I went back and it changed to 18 to 21 the younger lads went to Onley and unit 1 or 2 became induction wing. I was living in Leicester at the time loads of Brunmie lads from Brinsford. The Cov lads were serious back in the day. Who remembers Mr French and Miss Prince shacked up with an ex prisoner got kids with him last I heard. Scrapping in the shower and on the stairs every time let out for food or workshop. Had some laughs in there.
Is it just me or does the kid with the glasses 2.40 look like Dennis Nielson?? 😂🤯🤔
One looks a bit like a young Jimmy Page.
Thank you so much for adding this. I saw it when it was first shown on TV and for years I have been typing it into TH-cam to see if anybody had added it. I was beginning to think I had dreamt it. Have you got any more of the episodes ?
Ive uploaded every episode on my channel
I was in Glen Parvati in 1977 it was a Borstal then
I found the first exchange extremely poignant. I hope he's doing OK
Anyone seen the denis nielson lookalike?
It's a difficult one to find the answer to. Obviously kicking the living shit out of kids like they used to was always going to stop eventually but there's a reason kids are the way they are these days
Its a complete lack of anything to fear and being used to control space by the threat of violence, knowledge that no one bigger and badder in authority is going to come in and frighten you
The lad who said he doesn't want to learn, couldn't learn as he has adhd, they knew nothing about it back then , so you ended up in a place like that. I was one of them, and spent 5 years from 1986
No you didn't Julian
😂🤣😂🤣” My mate said try this new drug acid”. Pmsl acid has been around since the 60’s lol. All the hippies would take it.
I think he meant new to him/area at that time? It was new to me in the late 80s too 😎
@@michaelbradley3061 ok understand. Good point. It’s like when I was in Glen Parva a lot of lads were in there for heroin addiction crimes. But heroin wasn’t around my area at the time.
@@smith2781 “on the out” Manchester evening news with my name on this profile 😊 was addicted too for 25 + years. Check us out spent years in prison myself.
Mushrooms have been around before humans
The lad at the beginning seems as though he was being bullied. Part of life in these places, I suppose.
I got my first sentence in 1990 age 17 I was lucky as most of my good mates where already there.
By the time I got out I'd learned from other inmates to cut phone wires and foam alarms, I became more prolific.
God I was doing my A levels atm. Seems like yesterday
Dare I say it, but without multi culturalism the prisons were a lot calmer
It's a fact
Um beely ..um beely tapiki
@@leenobody3249 ?
Everything was better before Blair came in, and it's steadily worsening.
@@danielmoran9902 spot on
Glad I've never done anything wrong there not nice places to end up
I was sentence to 12 months in glen parva for growing cannibis even tho it wasn't mine I just went in to rob it as ya do......but I tried turning of the electrical board they made and the house caught fire and that's how I got caught 2 months later..... I made 7 grand tho so it was ok but the prison was like a holiday camp shit food somebody kept shitting in the custard thank God I didn't hav it on my cake
Billy bullshitttttta
The haircuts have gone full circle, except for the perm women.
I saw the self help video in hmp Lowdham Grange in 98 whilst doing 8 years what a fucked up video that was.
I don't agree what the vicar said about "forgetting keeps you on the straight and narrow". I have CPTSD, and I have forgiven what my abusers have done to me, but I haven't forgotten what they did. Not forgetting the abuse, for me, has meant I've wanted more for myself and healed myself. I know many people who are the same as me. I have also had to remind others that forgiving someone doesn't mean being pally pally with them again, it can mean you aren't living with the constant pain, guilt and fear day in and day out. Forgiveness also means walking away from that person because forgiving them means you can forgive yourself for any hurt you are carrying ❤
The teacher is not good to see them make progress most people can learn, but only to a certain level i agree, but it was nice to see one person had some potential, i still feel its not feeling sorry for them, being firm they may have paid more attention, wonder what they are doing now? Hope things worked out for them.
I did 2002 to 2003 it was just changing with the treatment still did some rough bang up though
Can't believe this was parva 😵💫 even by 05 not much had changed by the looks of it
Maths I agree is hard without the logic your going to struggle but how will you pass the exams without proper support you learn off others but make it fun then people often enjoy even basic learning is fun make it interesting people will pay more attention then I'm sure
Was on unit 2 in 1990 doing 18 months convicted wings werent too bad done xmas on unit 11 i think it was which was an allocation wing remember the twat i was in allocation with snored like a pig 😂😂😂
Where's pt 1 ?
Rather do mens jail than parva.... To bloody noisey....
Where is episode 1 cannot find ?
I was in Parva in 97. Absolute hell hole.
98. Dump. Time flies when you're a avin fun.
wasnt any better in 2001 either
I was also there in 97 .. 100% shit hole
It’s a prison not a hotel?! 😂 what did you expect?!
Good lads in there89 90
I been Glen Parva unit 15
Was on remand in parva these times
when they were arrested they said to the police 'oh,no.I'm buggered now!' the police said yes, all in good time son, all in good time.
I am confused after hearing the comment on the introduction video about it being hard to catch Aid's via sex with Women. REALLY???
I was their in 94 lol. Compared to longriggend in Scotland this place was a holiday camp
The last chance . Next time Harry Grout wing !
And nowadays they’d get a slap on the wrist…..sad
Yanno the boy with the glasses and the church bloke says about 4giving 4gettjng and then he says right is there anything you wanna ask or tell me the lad gave the most shocking sign like he wanted to say something bug didn't did no1 else pick up on that and then the lads was calling him a chucking but then he changed and started making a chicken noise..many he was just like me quite and stuff but deep down am fine nothing bothers me just very laid bk...well except from 1 thing ppl who lie cheap and steal of friends and family and ppl who hurt kids or old ppl or women or vulnerable ppl basically bullying that's 1 type of person I hatee
Nothing brothers you explain 6 different things? No worries
@@stephenreie9847 dont understand what u mean name 6 things that bother me
did leng on unit 15, 1989-1992... proper sh*tehole
I was there from 2001 to 2004 unit 1 .
the aids information film was the best ever
15:59 is that a young stephen graham ?
I always find last-minute "we need to cover our arses because our legal team spotted something" disclaimers over the credits like that to be eerie for inarticulable reasons. Lack of closing music doesn't help.
Barry Norman,
You made some great points here, respect to you.
Thought that was Elvis in the opening scene 😂
mongs
Aren’t we all
@Donnell Okafor
Its a person with learning difficulties
You been breathing too much fumes fucko .
In strangeways when this came out as a 20 year old missed the riots by 2 weeks.
Nonce case
Mullet in 1990 hillbilly
I did time there 94 to 95 unit 15 and unit8
On tour 9T4
Where is episode 1?
Sorry, it’s the only episode I’ve found on my old VHSs (so far).
@@AndyRubio1 no probs mate, thank you for uploading, please stay safe brother
I was on the film
Which part of the film?
@@smith2781 bet she was the teacher with the perm
What part??
I preferred Feltham to pava .but that was a lifetime ago.