The Next Watch Trend Revealed: New $500 Seiko Mini Samurai SRPL15 & Alpina 39mm Seastrong GMT Diver
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we review two new releases for 2024 that collectively, along with a special cameo wristwatch check that's also a new release for this year, reveal to us what's shaping up to be the next big trend in watch design. First up to bat is a tough, super capable, ocean-going GMT diver from the inventor of the Swiss sports watch as we know it, and the most underrated brand the country has to offer-aptly named the Alpina Seastrong Extreme GMT in 39mm. Secondly, we have a wonderfully refined update of an even more modest and compact Seiko Samurai professional diver-the Seiko Mini Samurai ref. SRPL15-as well as a new 70s inspired automatic chronograph based on a long lost prototype-the Chronosport from Nivada Grenchen. Join me for an in-depth review of the Alpina Seastrong Extreme and the Seiko Mini Samurai, including all the positives and negatives of each, and how they are both part of a new trend that is going to take over in the next few years and become the dominant style, alongside a continuing move towards smaller watches. What do you think about the watches in this video? Are they a hit or a miss? And what do you think will be the next hot trend? Please share in the comments!
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I wish the Ultra thin watches become trendy again, lately i was introduced to the Seiko Lassale from the 80s and Oh boyyy ,, they're so slim , so well made as well as elegant and their design is so unique. I hope they become the next trend.
That Nivada Chrono sport looks great. Great Video 👍👍👍
Niiiiiiice. I did a video about them too a few years back, amazing watches. Did you check out the Dolce collection too? Super cool designs and slim too. I could not agree more, I hope they become a trend!
Thank you, enjoy your Lassale,
Best regards,
TGV
Oh yes i am going to buy a Seiko Dolce soon. Strangely enough after experiencing these slim watches and how elegant they look,, i cant get my self to wear any other watch from the collection 😄😄
If you like ultra-thin, look into their U.T.D. models!! I managed to pick up a 3rd generation Seiko U.T.D. for only 600 euro. 4.4mm thick case and a 1.98mm thick full hand decorated manualwind movement! (Thinner than the modern JLC Master Controll ultra-thin)
I think there's every chance that slim and thinner watches will be trending. I know young people don't tend to have the money to drive trends in the upper end of the watch market but it is younger people who tend to drive fashion trends in general and they are definitely pushing towards much smaller watches. Older teens and early twenties are rejecting smart watches and big G-Shocks are definitely out. What's in are either smaller 80s style Casio's or smaller analogue watches like 80s or 90s used women's Seiko's or tank copies. I'm not sure exactly what that will lead to in the future but they are the trends I'm seeing for young people and I could see that pushing an interest in smaller and slimmer.
I'm glad you're covering Alpina, they sure deserve more attention!
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Indeed, thank you, your comment helps too!
Best,
TGV
I agree I just wish the watches were less "chunky" too big for my wrist lol.
I’m so saddened that I’ve only been watching TGV for the last year or so. The tail end of his career is absolutely the best. I’ve went back and watched his earlier shows and loved them. The aesthetic evolution and concise critique and education of watches have been superb. Bravo old chap. A true icon of TH-cam and the watch enthusiasts everywhere!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Why do you think this is the tail end of TGV’s career?
@@Ramps100I was wondering the same thing. 🤷🏻♂️
Same
@@Ramps100 earlier this year he announced that he was going to be cutting back on his videos and not putting out as many. Ten plus years ago he put out quite a bit of content. As he went along the production level dramatically increased, thus cutting into his personal and professional life. Now that he has arrived at this stage, I miss his releases. I did not mean to infer that he was going away, rather that he is slowing down. Quality content is very hard to find.
Got an Alpina Seastrong Gyre in 36mm. Really enjoy it. There's dozens of us out there, dozens!
Dozens Jerry! Dozens!
Who did ?
Seeing the Chronosport on the wrist makes it look 10x better. Can’t wait for that video to drop!
As big a Seiko fanboy that I am, the micro brands and entry level Swiss timepieces are giving such good value that I can’t buy a new Seiko.
Seiko are like Japanese cars you know they're just too reliable compared to the European hype of cars . Motorbikes the Japanese have taking over . None of the European bikes can compete. Plus great video
@@greenerickExcept for Ducati I guess. Or BMW.
@@greenerickthis is a pretty bad comparison, the reason why Japanese Cars are so much more reliable than European Cars is because they were designed to be from the ground up. Mechanical Watch Movements are SUPPOSE to be designed like that by default, japanese, swiss, whatever, you'd be stupid to develop a movement that wasn't reliable first. I love Seiko, but they've lost their magic.
@Army4Runner no have no dealers not many dearest in the UK parts are hard to get . BMW are not as good as the Japanese sports bikes, which are just more reliable
@@greenerickNot sure I agree that Seiko is more reliable than the likes of Tissot or Certina which are in a similar price range.
That Longines Flagship at the end there is beautiful
Great way to end a Sunday! Thanks for uploading TGV.
Thank god for The Urban Gentry! Many watch shows on TH-cam seem to be an endless lists of watches we should or shouldn't buy offering repetitive bits of information. It's wonderful to have a show for real watch (Horology) enthusiasts that actually tell us something new.
I have never really considered Alpina previously, but may now pull the trigger on the Seastrong. This new design concept, like that of Nivada, is refreshing and quite possibly just what the market requires ! NB. My wife has little if no interest in watches, but does enjoy your videos ! There’s hope yet ? !!
I'm glad to see the Nivada Chronosport getting some attention. It really does embody the spirit of adventure at the center of the company's image. It does it all.
I’m pleased to see the traditional watch industry embracing smaller, thinner designs. These watches not only feel more comfortable but also look better on most wrists, as many people wear oversized watches that don’t suit them.
Unfortunately, this trend hasn’t fully reached the smartwatch market. If you're looking for an all-round fitness watch with GPS, the majority of options are still over 44mm, leaving fewer choices for those who prefer something more compact.
Great observation, especially the latter part, it helps me stay informed, thank you my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
It's been great following you and hearing some original thoughts on quite important subjects rarely covered in the "watch world". Keep up the great work! Cheers
Thanks for featuring Alpina! I have more than a couple. Imho they produce more misses than hits, but the hits are really good.
Startimer 40mm is such value for a pilot watch. 495 is unheard of 😊
One thing that Seiko nearly always does really well is legibility (as per this one) which for some is potentially the most important aspect of a watch. Great video as always sir 👍
Hi TGV! Happy Labor Day Weekend! Thanks for the great Seiko update! Cheers! John
I must say that the Nivada Grenchen chronograph looks really sharp. I’ll be looking forward to your dedicated review of it.
The intro is like a cool 1960’s film. Lovely music.
I have the black mini-Samurai. I will say this: I had a hard time turning the bezel when my fingers were wet. I suspect the knurled bezel may be a bit too thin for my wet fingers to get a grip. I do like the dial and marker layout, and it runs a little fast but I've learned not to expect consistency from the factory-set 4R movements, so it's something people can learn to live with.
It's a good looking watch. I own a second gen black and grey and wasn't all that impressed when I saw a review of the red Mini. The black however, ir really sharp.
As always another great video. I'm a Gen 2 Samurai owner, and am just so happy with it. Yes the new generation looks nice, and am certain Seiko magic adorns it. I am perfectly fine with Hardlex, and 4R movements. The Alpina is a fine watch as well, but the cost does present competition. I'm positive that either watch would serve it's owner for a lifetime.
I personally think the SPB453 was the better release from Seiko recently
Always a good day when we have a new video from TGV!
I love your humor and down-to-earth style. Carry on.
I almost bought that exact Samurai a couple of days ago, but I went for the new Seiko 5 steel black dial "limited edition". Good video. Keep it up.
Well after some thought... I also bought the Samurai 😂
Gorgeous timepiece.
@@pedrojorgeribeiro9879congratulations 😊
Retro futuristic ay?!!! Like this term! Anything with retro in it I gravitate!!!!;) Alpina just to far away from the older models for me ! Love the samurai but don’t love the date position or the porthole window ! But!!! Like the new 62MAS releases, the date window disappeared if you weren’t looking for it!!!;) always a superb watch T and the War room background has never looked better!!!
Grazie fratello. You are very kind. I have yet to see a new 62MAS, I will check it out, maybe I shouldn't 🤣😅. My best to you and your family.
T.
The new samurai is a contender for a daily wear with the strap being able to be swapped out, bravo ❤
I appreciate you noting that the Seiko has a screw down crown, as their newer models (such as the SSK GMT series) don't have a screw down crown, despite saying they have a 100m water resistance. I'd still rather have a screw down crown!
It's a piece of mind I guess, but screw down crowns have nothing to do with water resistance. I've got a Citizen Nighthawk rated to 200m and it has a push pull crown.
I've recently purchased a new Seiko, but it was the King Sumo PADI, maybe a future review for this forgotten watch, great, spec, sapphire, ceramic bezel, 6R35 movement, very comfortable and wears a lot smaller than it actually is.... it's got the grenade dial in black, for me it's the perfect Seiko diver 👌👌
My Seiko Arnie stainless steel is my everyday watch, and I plan on keeping it that way for a long time. It shows no signs of wear yet but I have not babied it.
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Awesome, I love it. Thank you and here is to many years of enjoyment with you Arnie.
Off to google it! 😉😅
Best regards,
TGV
Enjoying the content. Looking forward to seeing the review of the Nivada chronograph.
I am not really trend chaser look at a watch and say would I personally like to wear that watch.. if yes purchase if no pass don't care if it is late coolest thing, because for me a watch is a tool personally lately I have been rotating between the Squale 1521 in Bronze and a 2008 Breitling Emergency Ti Blue 43 mm. and a Doxa 300T Shark Hunter. But your Reviews are always existential and wax philosophical which is why I like them
Your Breitling is not a tool. Would you buy a 400 dollars screwdriver?
The Nivada Grenchen, the Cuervo y Sobrinos, Oris, Bell & Ross, the Graf Zeppelin, Bremont and all these lovely watches are really worth looking at, along with the Seiko, the West End Watch Company, Hamilton, Luminox, Alpina, Lorus, even the Humble Timex.
TGV This is so interesting honestly. Well done again my friend 👏 I wonder how long it will take for this trend to reach it's boiling poiint and we start seeing more brands come out with retro futuristics. Am i the only one who is officially tired of all the integrated bracelets?
Nice one, T! I'm not sure I can discern a single, overriding trend in watches at the moment (other than smaller case sizes, perhaps…which I'm totally on-board with), but I like what I'm seeing with what you've showcased here, particularly with the revised Samurai - I liked the overall vibe of the first two versions, but never thought they'd work on my wrist, while the third is a *serious* possibility. The Alpina has some appeal, but the overall design effect is a bit too busy for me…almost as if they're trying ridiculously hard to stand out, whereas Seiko is simply refining and distilling an established aesthetic of their own. At any rate, excellent presentation (yet again), and definitely looking forward to that NV review - that thing looks the business on your wrist.
The new baby samurai “ronin” is fantastic. The black dial submariner version super impressed me so much I may get this instead of the spb143 I was eyeing
Ah the Samurai. My second mechanical watch after the obligatory 100 dollar SNK. And I really like the dial on the mini. With the refreshed monster hands and the marks being a tip of the hat to the 2nd gen monsters. And thank you Seiko for continuing to use the 4r35. Out of the 4 seikos I’ve owned the 4r has been the most accurate. Both my Samurai and 55th anniversary 5 being at or better then Cosc.
I love the attention Nivada is getting. They're doing things right and make superb looking timepieces.
Nothing like a good Seiko review TGV lol great video and I'm really intrested in those FKM straps from wcwc. Hope your having a good summer. So amazing your back in NYC, just like the good old days😊🙏🍷
Seeing Longines that I own in your show - priceless. Thanks for making my day.
Waiting for the San !Martin review and approval seal from Hugouuuu!😂😂
Come on Tristano!!
I love hands on the new Samurai! The Alpina is great looking watch as well. I don't understand the need for an integrated strap. Great video! Cheers!
Love the MOBB DEEP shirt. That album is as good as a squale!
I might be stuck in the 90s but I still love the Monster. That new Prospex is beautiful. The Nivada is AMAZING looking but unfortunately I DO NOT DIG the Alpina. Great Video as per usual.
It is nice to see some fresh designs for sure! Especially for one reason, the Seiko is for me the clear winner between the two!
Maybe you can pass to the manufacturers you are in contact with, that proprietary straps are indeed deal-breakers for many customers. Proprietary bracelets probably not so much, as they last much longer, but if a refit is needed after some years and a few too many gourmet dinners, extra links may have been lost, and then what do you do?
There are ways of integrating straps and bracelets very fluidly into a watch body, without requiring custom fit or awkward adapters, like the simply standard use of "round ends" for so many bracelets.
So, with the Alpina's strap problem, the new Seiko is the pick for me in this review, should I win a Lotto, and also have enough to move to the Australian Outback. But in that case, I think I would take an in person look at Australia's own home-grown "Adina" brand 😀
The Alpina has one thing going for, it. Its bezel is all black, and yet readable! Bravo! This is the bezel, that Glycine should have made for its all black case and black bezel themed PVD Airman Contemporary series, but failed at.
My signal yellow dial, black PVD Airman GL0463 is not the total stealth version you reviewed previously, but its bezel was still rather useless in person, so I took a gold-metallic marker to it, filled in the depressed markers and numerals, gently wiped off the excess on the surface with alcohol (do not soak, lest the insert-glue may be dissolved), and ended up with a very sharply defined and quite readable bezel, matching the face. On this colourised bezel, I can finally read different time zones
Sadly, for the Alpina, any integrated and hence proprietary and potentially very expensive replacement strap (some cost more than the whole watch on sale!) is a deal-breaker after a few broken straps had me toss 3 or 4 watches that had seen their wear time.
I have the Seiko with a white dial, excellent watch. Your videos are top notch! Cheers TGV!
Fantastic video and thank you for the shout-out brother ❤
Grazie fratello! I hope you and your family are well.
Onwards and ever upwards.
T.
@@theurbangentry Likewise my friend!
I'm happy watch sizes have come down, and that smaller sizes are becoming more readily available. For me, 38-39mm is perfect for sports watches, and 35-38 for dress watches. When i dive, I wear my dive computer; not that I don't like "dive" watches, quite the contrary (I own quite a few from different brands). I feel they have fantastic utility with their timing bezel and robust build quality. It's just that I, for one, don't need a watch larger than 40mm. I'm happy larger watches exist for those who do, of course. No such thing as "one size fits all."
Thanks for taking a look at both of these watches. The Alpina definitely deserves more attention. I wish they were more easily accessible. I looked up stores in Texas and came up with only one in the state, 5 hours away. I really like the look of their new diver/GMT models in this Seastrong Extreme line. It stands out as interesting design that is not only looking back. The Samurai is a nice update. I hadn't noticed the date color on the maroon one, which is disappointing. I was thinking of picking one up at some point.
I frequently use the arrow indicator on my gmt bezel as a marker for timing stuff if I need to. The arrow still marks where your minute hand was when you started timing and you can use the dial markers to measure how much time has passed since you marked it. Just because you have a gmt bezel doesn't necessarily mean you can't time things with your bezel. Although it does make it more of a pain in the ass to get everything resituated after timing if you were using the bezel to track a different time zone. But then you also couldn't have been doing that with a timing bezel. So there's a give and take.
Great review. Haven’t looked at Alpina that much but this model looks great. Salute to that vintage Infamous Tee 🔥
Cool reference to Ghost Dog, I saw that film when it released in theatres. RZA did a great job on the soundtrack.
Best intro in the watch review game
I am not skilled at spotting trends. I am struck, however by the sheer number of outstanding recent releases across the spectrum of brands. Some of the most compelling are, in my opinion, the Zelos Nova, the Nivada Grenchen F77, this new Mini Samurai (particularly the blackout version), Bulova Super Seville, Rolex 1908 in platinum, Omega white dial Speedmaster, and every, single thing that H. Moser & Cie are producing. There are so many honorable mentions, I am encouraged by this deluge of creative design.
Looks just like the Adventure Avalanche. I would take the Samurai, but I strongly refer the Sumo case or the 1968 case. I adore my SPB240 and my SBDC097 Grey Sumo. The Ice Diver Sumo’s are great. I would love to see some upscale Ice Diver Samurai models. I would buy one if it were made up to the SPB level quality.
Your Niivada looks exquisite 👏 The omega gmt you showed is a personal Grail 🥺
Oh that white amazing dial;)! 🎉🎉🎉
My pick here would be the seiko, I like the fresh new look. Nivada does have some really cool designs, I love your F77 but for me it's a bit small at 37mm if it was a 39-40mm I would get one. Awesome video and editing as always 👍🏻
These are fantastic watches, if only they were 43mm + they would be perfect!
Just go with the proviso version of either, cheaper too 😉 Sorted.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TFV
@@theurbangentry This is why you're the King 👑
Recently, I got Delma watch end I am impressed how this watch presents on my wrist. Their divers look nicer than Longines Hydroconquest and are half the price...
All the best
Love the new samurai.
Love the old samurai .
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I am seeing a lot of Monnin Case watches on the market recently and I think that is great. I hate that up to now, many dive watches have had a lug width of 22mm, resulting in skinny weak lugs. The return to Monnin cases is a great move. When I find a swiss auto movement in a Monnin case, I will buy it. HGP ws very tempting but it is Japanese movement.
I have the Seiko shu iro Samurai and the Seiko Nigth vision which is also black both have sapphire glass and a ceramic bezel. I hope they do a king Samurai version of this new one i would certainly buy. Ps i have also two Alpina watches the startimer classic pilot chronograph and the startimer classic threehander both excellent watches. I have my eye on the Alpina regulator probably will ad that to my collection at the end of the year...
Seiko was close to making a strap there that wasn’t terrible. Funny how those watches look fire on any strap but the one that comes with it
I've got to watch Ghost Dog - thanks for the rec man! You're always shouting out movies that are off the beaten path - thank you
Oh my, that Nivada chrono is gorgeous!
I love your reviews and follow most of them. This video however was very scattered, almost spliced together if you will. I do appreciate all the time you put in and helping us along with this addiction!
Purpose of Hardlex is supposedly it does not crack when scratched, for example against underwater rocks. Same reason why Tuna and many other diver models have it. Not because it is supposedly cheap. Not to mention, that distortion is interesting. I wonder if it is less visible underwater. As for Alpina, I keep hearing they are an underrated brand, but at the same time, no matter how hard I try, I cant find a model in their lineup I would really like. And it has been so sincer I fell into this watch rabbit hole.
Seikobullshits. So why put sapphire on every other expensive models even divers? 😂
Great video as always TGV ❤And good to see a slow move away from vintage inspired 1970’s era watches, that feel very much played out at this stage. I think the new retro-futuristic style also has a strong 80’s influence as well, which I’m very much here for too 🤖
This channel got me into Seiko. I bought my first Seiko automatic because of what I had seen here and it is by far my favorite watch. I was always into watches, which is what brought me here. But it was a lot of crap. Nixon watches and crap like that. This channel really got me to appreciate timepieces for what they are. Mini pieces of art and mechanical genius. Granted, a lot of what I see here is above my price point (good watches are expensive and it sucks), but I have learned a lot and really found myself appreciating watches in a way I hadn't before.
Beautiful Alpina and Nivada. Can’t afford either! Just added the Casio MDV106 to my collection. Now you all know my price point that allows me to also enjoy the watch without guilt.
I like this trend, I would been intrested in buying the red samurai if the date was matching the dial.
The Mobb Deep shirt , the 50 cent book , ghost dog and the lone wolf and cub GZA joint , I’m starting to aee your hip hop side more . I like it 💪🏼
Ti Amo - honestly mate. your channel is what I aspire to (although I'll never reach in a million years). Cheers and take care.
You can do it, if I can do it with my dyslexia and terrible academic achievements, I am sure you can!
Thank you for the kind words, keep at it, onwards and ever upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry Mate - you almost moved me to tears. Thankyou. I will keep trying. Take care - Dino
The alpina is nice. I had my eye on the bracelet version a while back. The only reason i didn't buy it was the rubber on the crown. I can see it wearing out and falling off after years of use.
Nice work again TGV. Though it is going to be hard to top the Ghost Dog episode I’m in for the newer Samurai. In the past I’ve liked Alpina but they always seemed to be lacking in the Lume dept for my tastes. Question how was the Lume of the Alpina this time? Traditionally the hands are always fantastic but the markers are always extremely thin and lacking in the same brightness as the hand set. If Alpina were to fix this issue it would be far more impressive of an offer from them. I do love good Lume on a watch dial. If it is lacking in other areas I still like it simply because of great Lume. I just know historically what their lume is like. You would think it would be easy but I guess it would also cost more if it had fantastic Lume on both hands and hour markers. Which honestly I’d be far more comfortable paying a touch more to simply have better quality Lume. Another great video my friend. Loving this direction of your channel for sure.
The Aquastar Deepstar has an unmistakable asymmetrical look which I feel has not been explored enough by other watch makers
Love this new mini Samurai. As for the Alpina, I think it looks great but Marc just dropped a video (exclusive) with three brilliant new colors of the SSK GMT’s (033, 035, 036), and I prefer those. Thanks for the great reviews!
Imo Alpina are in a tier miles above Seiko, and of course more expensive.
@@paperback10 Oh. Zero argument here. I can afford the Seiko’s (especially after their prices come down from their introductory prices). 😅.
I have that new black Samurai. It’s awesome.
I love the looks of the Chronosport. Thanks for the video and Happy Labor Day!
I like the blacked out Seiko!
Always had a soft spot for the Alpina, but the selita movement unfortunately brings out the snob in me😂. I agree on divers bezel and wish more companies came with that option
What an insult to Hugo at 10:52!
He be like "Hold my beer old chap"
I have not bought a watch in a while so the itch is there for the new Samurai. I guess I have to scratch that itch in the mean time with "upgrading" my DW-290.. CA-53 strap just arrived in the mail. Thanks for the tip TGV!
Love the new samurai but will wait for the inevitable “special edition” models with better specs and more interesting dials.
Video fantastico, non vedo l'ora di vedere quel Nivada in un futuro video. Avanti e verso l'alto, amico mio!
I have two Alpina watches in my collection and I'm thinking about buying the 3rd one. They're fun to wear and everything about Alpina is quality 👌🏻
I’m definitely going to add a Alpina to my collection at some point. I’d get a Alpina or Tissot even over a Rolex anyday. 👌🏼
For now I’m enjoy Casio Edifce’s though, I love quartz, prefer it over automatics. They’re seriously good watches, and both of my mine hit the markers perfectly which I can’t say about all of my other 15+ quartz watches some costing 4X more than the Edifices.
I for one would love to thumb through your movie collection 😅. Ever thought of starting a second channel for movies?
I have often thought about it, one day I will. Just between my day job and TH-cam I simply do not have the time. Thank you, you inspire me! It will happen.
Best regards,
TGV
He has an ability to enjoy something in every watch
The Mobb Deep T-shirt bruv yes
I don’t know why they have to make a band so huge average person can’t wear it comfortably. I replaced mine with a Fullmosa curved band from amazon. Fits amazing
TGV, your videos teach me so much about design language which translates over to things outside of watches. Any books you recommend to differentiate between art styles and design language ?
Great watches. I love the seiko. Please check out the SRPE line up! The "dress-kx".
Nice looking the all black, I think I read somewhere that this version has longer L2L then the version before 🤔..
was going to get that 3 ring table lamp that you have but decided on the GANTRI GALLERY TASK LIGHT
I have an old Samurai and was able to try on the new burgundy Samurai. I must say the latter really hits the sweet spot of wearability and comfort, but loses just a touch of the original's uniqueness.
Just checked my Samurai "King" and it got drilled lug holes.
I really like the case design and updates, but I also liked the size and hands of the "old" samurai.
I would have loved a GMT of it.
But the next watch on the list is a Squale, since you mentioned it.
Excellent video again.
Cooool
Always a pleasure watching your relaxing reviews TGV 👍
I still find it hard to top my Seiko Tuna Marine master Ninja SBBN035 with the Legendary 7C46 high torque movement but I would like to add a auto Seiko been looking at the SLA033J1 Willard or the SLA043 62mas
From what I've observed, the trend (that I welcome with my small wrists) is watches from 33 to 39 mm with a slight retro, sometimes even steampunk twist. The "wall clock on the wrist" seems to have had its day for now.
Normally I don’t feel the need to comment on watches I don’t like… but boy that Alpina must be the ugliest thing I’ve seen in years… it gives me total AliExpress-lets try everything-watch… the Seiko on the other hand… I really do quite like… Great video, thanks!