Jobo CPE3 vs CPP3 || Buying Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Quick rundown of the Jobo CPE line vs the CPP line. Will go into more detail later.
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You might have figured it out by now but JOBO is from Gummersbach close to Cologne which would make it West-Germany.
Great information Nico,many thanks
Hola Nico con un equipo JOBO que compre me vino una bomba 4045 saugpumpe pero no se como se usa Me podrás ayudar?? Saludos desde Argentina
Es simplemente una bomba para vaciar bandejas o similar.
I miss using a Jobo ... I got to put a CPE3 to heavy use in college, and it was wonderful. I especially enjoy loading the reels vs. just about anything else. Good video!
Thanks Jamie! They are awesome machines.
Bought my Jobo CPE2 when I was living in Germany in the late 1980's and it's still going strong!
Can you do 6 bath e6 with the CPE2/3
I recently bought a CPE2 and did some 120
Great but I did have some slightly un even development. I don't have a the lift . It's early days but I wonder if I need to try hand agitation instantly before the drum goes onto the magnet?
anyone own the cpp3? am i crazy for thinking i can have one of these in my home ...? 😊
Why not? If you love film and will process on a regular basis this makes perfectly sense! I have a CPP2 and I would not want to miss it. Awesome machines!
Thanks Nico! Can you explain us how the development chages from standart tanks to rotary ones? I just purchase a béseler motor and i dont know how much time does it changes the process. Any diference betwen the negatives obtained?
Nice Nico! I've been waiting for you to get around to doing your Jobo series. For suggestions, I think showing the water procedure for both the tempered water option (using the rear inlet), filling a Jobo without or if you don't have tempered water (i.e. without the rear inlet), how to fill the basin / tub, using the rear flow mechanism function - how / where to fill that up too and last proper drainage of water / cleaning. I think you may have answered some of these in the past but, a new consolidated video with time-stamping for each specific query answered, might be instrumental to steer folks with questions to that type of vid 👍🏽
Hi I am shooting 4x5 film sheet. Can you give me some advice in choosing the right JOBO machine ? Many thanks David
For 4x5 all you need is the 2520 tank and 2509n reel. This combo will work on all processors like CPE-2, CPE-3, CPP-2 CPP-3 and ATL. If you can get it with a lift to make it all easier.
Nice and informative video. I went ahead and got the CPP3 processor after review of your video. I have 2 questions. 1 - The processor and lift came with a syringe of grease. Where do I apply this grease on the device? 2 - The CPP3 has a leveler on the right side of trough. The level has engravings “1 and 2’. How do you suggest I set these leveler numbers? Thank you.
Hello! How many 120 films can it develop in once ?
Thank you
It gets very Interresting when you enter the very vintage CPA 4100 line. They have different designs, different knobs and even different circuit boards and one came even in white. BUT, if they run, they run and if not, you need to remove 6 screws and see the inside. usually only a connector came loose, or an elko is gone (replaceable). they are simply made and a user with a bit knowledge of electronics can fix those easily
Dominik Samol Will a new 1520 or 2520 fit onto an old 4100 processor which I happen to own?
@@siggimac yes it will on the red 4100, but the clearence is "very tight". If you use the longer ones, you should have a Lego chassis nearby and some hot glue if you feel the original support is not enough. The white CPA 4100 Color Processor has a smaller compartment for the drum and here the new drums "scratch" the side and the possible rollers do not support enough.
What drum type is this? 1:55 on the CPE 2
I ended up taking a Sharpie and putting marks at the 270ml level on all my graduates, to make measuring during processing easier. (I also darkened the 170ml line for similar reasons.)
What tank takes 170ml? The small 1 roll one? Or paper?
@@NicosPhotographyShow A half-full 2520 tank, which is what you use to process a single roll of 120 (or a C-41 test strip).
nico compre una cpa2 de segunda mano, lo que no se si es 110 v o 220v saludos de argentina.
No sabria decirte como comprobarlo, pero asegurate antes de quemar la maquina. Seguro que algun electricista sabra decirte rapidamente.
Hi Nico, I have the CPE2, recently purchased used. Wondering about the volume that can be used as I think the quoted cc is a little meagre. Would 350mm be OK.
Your loving follower. :-)
Me too...Wife got fed up of finding the slow cooker in my man cave with bottles of chemicals in it. Not used it yet as it's Summer here in NZ. 😎
I remember back in the 90's when I had one I always used a little extra in the drums for film and prints. The CPE2 is a great machine and I am sure you will enjoy using it. Mine came with the original instructions but you can download a copy easily enough if you need one 😊
Hi Gary, what tank would you be using? Depends on tank mostly.
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CPE2 with lift.
2x(1530+1520) with double liquid.
Kodak HC-110 dilution B or H.
120 film Delta, or Acros
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I am surprised you don't mention the CL-81 reel (for 3 sheets of 8x10.) made by Catlabs or those from 20th Century Cameras (2 sheets of 8x10) allowing you to use the Jobo Multitank 5
I wanted to test them before as they seem to enable it but have heard some mixed reviews. All I mentioned has been used by me and can attest they work great.
Nicos Photography Show sounds like another video :). It’s great to see both models on the same video. CPP and CPA seem to be complete overkill for me.
Yup, working on some interesting developing videos this following year.
Thanks for the great info!
Is there a difference in processing time between dip & dunk and a Jobo machine?
I am a convert. Thanks for sharing Nico.
Hahaha, me too!
Cool. Next we need a demo video. RA-4?
Ohhh, you are going to enjoy the new series coming 2020.
Thanky for your interesting video. Jobo still produces in former West Germany by the way.
Since you seem to be an expert on Jobo I am pretty sure you can help me with my problem.
I got hold of a really old Jobo processor (type 4100). Will the Jobo 1520 and 2520 fit onto this old processor?
On my version they do
You can use up to 8 reels with the CCP2 :D
Thanks for the run through Nico. It might be worth stressing for the newbies out there that you don't need to buy one of these to do colour film. My recommendation is to get a sous vide wand cooker. They are about £50 on eBay and will keep a bowl or bucket of chemistry at a pretty stable 38C. They even have an impeller to circulate the water. Nothing like this was available back in the pre-digital age. A sous vide cooker also packs away in hardly any space. If you are into colour negs and scanning (I'm not) the whole processing setup could be put together for less than £100 and then run at about £2.50 / roll (based on a Bellini 1l kit) - provided you could use the chemistry before it went off i.e. average about 1 roll a week. But I'm a monochrome man now. I can't stand the scanning ;)
I have an old Jobo drum (not sure of the model as it is stored away) but I think it is a 4531. I hope I'll be able to do 8x10 b&w negs in it once my Intrepid arrives. If it doesn't work I might buy one of the new Stearman trays.
Cinestill has a sous vide wich is optimised for film developement.