I have an older DS model with the 290cc Kawasaki. I just zip tied the governor and then increased the max rpm from 3600 to 4200. I now get to 31 mph. I also put a 3 inch lift kit with larger radial tires. Now I have to figure out how to make the steering tighter and more accurate to complement the higher speeds.
For what it's worth, the tutorial would be a whole lot better if I didn't have to keep rewinding it so that I could hear what you're saying (background music too loud!).
Sorry about that Joe. Every computer and device is a little different and I test the audio on both my laptop and phone and you can barely hear the music on either device, so I'll have to look into the audio mixing and see what else I can do to make it better.
Hey man, great video. Quick question for you. I've just bought a brand new onward 6passenger gas. Top soeed is about 25mph. Today, after driving at top speed for abot 1/4 mile, it lost all power and started smoking like crazy. I pulled over, no leaks or anything. It ran fine after this, as long as ivwasnt at top speed. On the way back home it did it again, and again as soon as i slowed down a little bit, it ran fine. Any ideas? Im obviously going to call the dealer, but I'm hoping it might be something quick so i dont have to take it into the dealer.
Awesome video mate. I have a 2016 Precedent Club Car and it will backfire once or twice a round. I bought it second hand so not sure what has been altered. Could you give me some advise that would be much appreciated. Thanks
Hey Wayne! Thanks! So there's a bolt on the top of your motor (driver side of motor) that is under a gray cover, the bolt adjusts the air to gas ratio and adjusting that bolt is typically the answer to fix a backfire. You might need to let the bolt out a little (turn it counter clockwise with large phillips head screw driver). If you google 2016 Club Car Precedent Illustrated Parts Catalog, you'll see a breakdown picture showing you exactly what I'm talking about.
@@bacartsvwIs this adjustment bolt on a 2018 Precedent that is fuel injected? I have one that will backfire every now and then when the engine is loaded up while going down hill, similar to if you were using engine braking going down hill in a car. The only bolt under the engine cover I can see is the one that adjusts the closed position of the throttle butterfly valve (similar to what an idle adjustment would be on a normal engine that idles and doesn't shut off automatically when the throttle is let off) I really enjoy your videos and thanks for posting this one!
How to I make my 2023 club car onward gas cart idle with foot off the pedal and while shifting forward to reverse. As in at stop signs and such not for extended periods of just sitting and running.
@bacartsvw because it's annoying that it shuts off and restarts and won't idle for 2 seconds when you stop at a sign. I bought this new over the phone from a dealer and had no idea they did this before buying. It's just annoying, is all. If I knew they did this I wouldn't have bought it.
@bacartsvw we don't play golf it's just a neighborhood cruiser, but if I'd known that they did this I would have bought a polaris ranger for approximately the same price. I love the cart besides this I guess I'll get used to it doing so.
Just tried this and the adjustments looked identical to yours but I got no increase in speed from before (top speed 14 mph). What am I missing? Something with that air/gas ratio bolt you mentioned in the disclaimer? Is there a video on that adjustment?
You can reach much greater speeds with high speed gears but the engine would also be working harder to get the cart going as you'd lose a lot of low end torque with higher speed gears. However, the motor would be running at a much lower RPM when driving faster with gears installed (less hard on the motor in that regard). As for the axle, installing high speed gears can cause a little more stress for the actual since it takes way more torque to spin the tires. So for both the motor and axle, it's a double edged sword in a way if you're concerned about wear.
The service center changed my governer cable - I got it back and it seems to have one speed - fast - and when you let up a bit on the gas pedal, it bucks - on and off - can you help please thanks
I have a club car tempo with led headlights that have the color changing on the bottom of the headlight…how are they adjusted? Mine are pointing to the sky
Unfortunately, speeding up a Lithium Onward isn't as easy as speeding up any other Club Car out there. There are no speed codes to surpass 19.5mph, and the battery on the Onward is 58volts which is an issue because all after market controller/motors that could increase the speed are 48v or 72v. So the only way to increase a lithium Onward's speed is to change the rear axle gears (12-1 ratio) with high speed gears (6-1 or 8-1 ratio). I have a connection that makes these gears if you'd like to tackle this idea! My email is sloan@bacarts.com!
Could you talk about or make a video about my issue. My 2023 Club Car Tempo-gas/EFI doesn’t work in reverse when I switch the lever to reverse, but… makes the beep sound. If I hold the reverse level by hand in reverse position, all the way back, It works. Do you know the cause and how to fix. Thanks
So you need to remove your rear engine cover/access panel. You will see your forward/reverse cable is connected to a fork on your rear axle. You will see two large nuts (I think they're a 20, 21 or 22, cant remember). What you have to do is loosen one of those nuts and thread your forward/reverse cable either forward or backwards and then retighten those nuts done.
If you did have to get a repair while under warranty, could you not simply reset the throttle cable and governor positions? There would be no other indicators the speed was increased, correct? Asking for a friend of course :)
Well, kind of. Club Car Onwards actually have a computer with a diagnostic on it that would allow dealers to read the highest rpm the engine has ever reached, which would very quickly show that the cart was once sped up. So considering I'm a dealer, and have had customers try to lie to me about their cart never being sped up and then proving them that it was, I wouldn't suggest it lol. Yes, I'm sure you could get away with it as most dealers aren't going to check those diagnostics, but still, I can't sit here and tell you "go for it" because I'm a dealer and would hate for somebody to do that to me.
Thanks for the detail. My only question is related to the space you created for the govenor arm. Does that impact speed at all? Or is the speed really just in the throttle cable? If I don't want to fully open it up, would less space for the govenor be suggested? Great video, though. Thanks
They work in conjunction with eachother to ensure that you can still "putt" around slow while also being able to go fast. If you don't free up any space on the governor then you won't be able to thread out the throttle cable quite as much. So yes, the space on the governor is what really gives it speed, but it can also cause your cart to take off all or nothing.
Hello, I like your videos and I wish some day you can work on a gas club car president with a subaru engine so j can learn how to fix mine. I have a 2017 gas club cart that only goes top speed. I can't ease off my foot of the accelerator, if I do, the cart will stop. I don't know what's wrong or what parts are causing this. Please help me fix this problem. Thank you in advance for your consideration. Moe
It sounds like your throttle art or throttle cable are adjusted to the extreme so the cart doesn't "putt" at all. The cart in this video is a Subaru engine so the adjustment should be exactly the same on your cart. So do the opposite of what I do in this video and adjust your cart to drive slower.
I have a 2017 gas precedent. It randomly fails to go when you push the pedal down for 3-5 seconds. Happens about 40 percent of the time. Any idea what could cause that? Seems like many people had that issue with the electric ones and the MCOR but I didn't believe the gas models have that.
Ah yes, the dreaded compression stroke issue. So the motors in Precedents have an intake stroke and a compression stroke and some Precedents can struggle to start up if the motor stops in compression stroke. Now the reason varies, you could have a weak battery, you could have a weak starter generator, you could have a bad starter belt, or you could have carbon build up on valves or pistons which can cause this. A quick way to not deal with the 4s pause is to just tap the throttle to get the motor to turn over once and then hit the gas and it'll fire right up, but if you just sit on the throttle it'll take a few seconds to get going just like you have been experiencing. To find a solution, I'd first check and see if your battery is loosing juice, you could prove this by throwing a battery charger on the battery (not a trickle charger) and keep stopping and starting the motor and see if it struggles to start in compression stroke. If not, then you have a weak battery.......Hope this helps!
my top speed is currently 18mph, but i eventually bog down and blow smoke from the exhaust. Am i running into the rev limiter? I have a 2005 club car ds.
I don't have much experience with DS's, but I do know that they have a 11.5hp motor, far less than the 14hp motor in Precedents, so 18mph is about as fast as you're going to go lol. As for the smoke and bogging down, it's very hard to say, it could be an carb issue, a fuel to air issue, etc.
Brand new 2024 onward with high speed gears. 28mph is all I can get from her. My old donkey "97" DS would flutter the valve springs at a smidge over 30. Did I miss a trick or is that all she has to offer?
Got it figured out. A properly placed and tightened zip tie was all it needed. Can cruise 35 now. I imagine you knew this, i'll let you share the trick if you choose to.
Not even close. You need a programmer and to buy a speed code to speed one up (Club Car Precedent or Tempo). An Electric Club Car Onward has a top speed of 19mph with no program to make it faster
30 can be easily reached if you don't care that the throttle is either all or nothing. The trick is to get the most speed while also having your throttle pedal not be so touchy that you can't go 1 or 5 or 10 mph.
I have a new lifted 6 seater onward, gas powered and I did a small trick with a tie wrap in the back. I get 30 mph without a problem. It is an easy fix. Let me know if you are interested.
Hello, we are a manufacturer with a 20-year history of manufacturing electric vehicles. I can provide richer formulations and personalized customization. Looking forward to contacting you.
Small issue, not entirely sure what model we have, newer precedent, when i floor it for around 4-5 seconds it will putter and lose rpms, what could be the problem?
If you leave the throttle floored what happens? Does it Rev back up again and then lose rpms? Or are you flooring it, you're getting up to full speed and then it drops rpms? How much speed are you losing when it putters and drops? 1mph? 5mph?
If it is floored, it will drop rpm for a second or two, and then will get back up in rpms, sometimes it happens more than not but it still is happening. I can send a video if needed, lmk where best place to contact would be
This is such a good video! Much better than another creator’s video I watched before this one!
Well shucks! Thanks! 😊. Appreciate you watching and hope it helped you!
You really helped.First thing in the morning
Awesome thanks got it up to 24mph. Now time for seat belts. Much appreciated
Glad to hear it helped! Thanks for watching!
I have an older DS model with the 290cc Kawasaki. I just zip tied the governor and then increased the max rpm from 3600 to 4200. I now get to 31 mph. I also put a 3 inch lift kit with larger radial tires. Now I have to figure out how to make the steering tighter and more accurate to complement the higher speeds.
Dude thanks
That’s how you do it
Most vids don’t come close.
You're welcome man! Appreciate the comment and kind words! Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome how to video!!! Thank you very much!!
You're very welcome! 😁
Awesome, I have a club car and it back fire when you press the pedal to move forward. Can you help… Thanks
Love the channel and content! Can we get a similar video for the Denago Rover XL?
For what it's worth, the tutorial would be a whole lot better if I didn't have to keep rewinding it so that I could hear what you're saying (background music too loud!).
Sorry about that Joe. Every computer and device is a little different and I test the audio on both my laptop and phone and you can barely hear the music on either device, so I'll have to look into the audio mixing and see what else I can do to make it better.
@@bacartsvwThanks. I'm glad to see that someone is sincerely trying to improve..as the cliche goes "there's always room for improvement". Take care!
Great easy vid for old army soldier!
@@bacartsvw do you have gas powered 6 seaters four wheeler ? If you available this golf cart then please tell me the actual cost of the same
Can this be done to a Cushman shuttle 2+2 gas golf cart?
Thank you for helping me out works great
Hey man, great video. Quick question for you. I've just bought a brand new onward 6passenger gas. Top soeed is about 25mph. Today, after driving at top speed for abot 1/4 mile, it lost all power and started smoking like crazy. I pulled over, no leaks or anything. It ran fine after this, as long as ivwasnt at top speed. On the way back home it did it again, and again as soon as i slowed down a little bit, it ran fine. Any ideas? Im obviously going to call the dealer, but I'm hoping it might be something quick so i dont have to take it into the dealer.
Awesome video mate. I have a 2016 Precedent Club Car and it will backfire once or twice a round. I bought it second hand so not sure what has been altered. Could you give me some advise that would be much appreciated. Thanks
Hey Wayne! Thanks! So there's a bolt on the top of your motor (driver side of motor) that is under a gray cover, the bolt adjusts the air to gas ratio and adjusting that bolt is typically the answer to fix a backfire. You might need to let the bolt out a little (turn it counter clockwise with large phillips head screw driver). If you google 2016 Club Car Precedent Illustrated Parts Catalog, you'll see a breakdown picture showing you exactly what I'm talking about.
@@bacartsvwIs this adjustment bolt on a 2018 Precedent that is fuel injected? I have one that will backfire every now and then when the engine is loaded up while going down hill, similar to if you were using engine braking going down hill in a car.
The only bolt under the engine cover I can see is the one that adjusts the closed position of the throttle butterfly valve (similar to what an idle adjustment would be on a normal engine that idles and doesn't shut off automatically when the throttle is let off)
I really enjoy your videos and thanks for posting this one!
Thanks great video 😊
Thanks for info
You're very welcome!
Great video, short and to the point.
Thanks.
Appreciate the help. Perfect video
Hi I have a 2014 club car turf 2 it has a kawasaki FE 350 motor gas how I can speed it up some ????
Very helpful.
How to I make my 2023 club car onward gas cart idle with foot off the pedal and while shifting forward to reverse. As in at stop signs and such not for extended periods of just sitting and running.
I'm not entirely sure to be honest, but what makes you want to do that?
@bacartsvw because it's annoying that it shuts off and restarts and won't idle for 2 seconds when you stop at a sign. I bought this new over the phone from a dealer and had no idea they did this before buying. It's just annoying, is all. If I knew they did this I wouldn't have bought it.
@bacartsvw we don't play golf it's just a neighborhood cruiser, but if I'd known that they did this I would have bought a polaris ranger for approximately the same price. I love the cart besides this I guess I'll get used to it doing so.
Thanks, I think we can do it ourselves.
Is it the same for a carryall 300?
The governor blot closest to the rear of the cart is missing on mine. Is that going to cause a problem?
Just tried this and the adjustments looked identical to yours but I got no increase in speed from before (top speed 14 mph). What am I missing? Something with that air/gas ratio bolt you mentioned in the disclaimer? Is there a video on that adjustment?
What if I changed out the gears in addition to adjusting the governor? Will this put less stress on the engine and axles?
You can reach much greater speeds with high speed gears but the engine would also be working harder to get the cart going as you'd lose a lot of low end torque with higher speed gears. However, the motor would be running at a much lower RPM when driving faster with gears installed (less hard on the motor in that regard). As for the axle, installing high speed gears can cause a little more stress for the actual since it takes way more torque to spin the tires. So for both the motor and axle, it's a double edged sword in a way if you're concerned about wear.
The service center changed my governer cable - I got it back and it seems to have one speed - fast - and when you let up a bit on the gas pedal, it bucks - on and off - can you help please thanks
thank you !
Welcome! 😊
How do you modify governed on a club car ds gas 1998
I have a club car tempo with led headlights that have the color changing on the bottom of the headlight…how are they adjusted? Mine are pointing to the sky
Could you do this but with an onward lithium ion, like only goes 19.5 I would love to go like 30. Anything you can do?
Unfortunately, speeding up a Lithium Onward isn't as easy as speeding up any other Club Car out there. There are no speed codes to surpass 19.5mph, and the battery on the Onward is 58volts which is an issue because all after market controller/motors that could increase the speed are 48v or 72v. So the only way to increase a lithium Onward's speed is to change the rear axle gears (12-1 ratio) with high speed gears (6-1 or 8-1 ratio). I have a connection that makes these gears if you'd like to tackle this idea! My email is sloan@bacarts.com!
Could you talk about or make a video about my issue. My 2023 Club Car Tempo-gas/EFI doesn’t work in reverse when I switch the lever to reverse, but… makes the beep sound. If I hold the reverse level by hand in reverse position, all the way back, It works. Do you know the cause and how to fix. Thanks
So you need to remove your rear engine cover/access panel. You will see your forward/reverse cable is connected to a fork on your rear axle. You will see two large nuts (I think they're a 20, 21 or 22, cant remember). What you have to do is loosen one of those nuts and thread your forward/reverse cable either forward or backwards and then retighten those nuts done.
@@bacartsvw thanks, I will look in a few days to try
do you have to adjust both the governor and the throttle cable? and it seems like you were kinda 'eye-balling' the changes. is that good enuff?
good stuff
Thank you!
If you did have to get a repair while under warranty, could you not simply reset the throttle cable and governor positions? There would be no other indicators the speed was increased, correct? Asking for a friend of course :)
Well, kind of. Club Car Onwards actually have a computer with a diagnostic on it that would allow dealers to read the highest rpm the engine has ever reached, which would very quickly show that the cart was once sped up. So considering I'm a dealer, and have had customers try to lie to me about their cart never being sped up and then proving them that it was, I wouldn't suggest it lol. Yes, I'm sure you could get away with it as most dealers aren't going to check those diagnostics, but still, I can't sit here and tell you "go for it" because I'm a dealer and would hate for somebody to do that to me.
I just picked up a 1992 ez go textron! Would love to get your input on how to make it faster
I'm not sure on that one, we don't sell or service EZGO so your guess would be as good as mine! lol
What can I do to a 2021 Onward HP Lithium to get past 10 mph
nice job!!
I did all these adjustments but I have a lot of hesitation and jerking at start and low speed. How can I get rid of that.
Mine is a 94 club car DS will this process work on mine ?
How do I adjust the governor on a 2007 club car precedent?
Thanks for the detail. My only question is related to the space you created for the govenor arm. Does that impact speed at all? Or is the speed really just in the throttle cable? If I don't want to fully open it up, would less space for the govenor be suggested?
Great video, though. Thanks
They work in conjunction with eachother to ensure that you can still "putt" around slow while also being able to go fast. If you don't free up any space on the governor then you won't be able to thread out the throttle cable quite as much. So yes, the space on the governor is what really gives it speed, but it can also cause your cart to take off all or nothing.
@@bacartsvw thanks! Appreciate the content.
can you do video on efi to carb om subaru engine
Good 🤝
is that taking of the govener?
Hello, I like your videos and I wish some day you can work on a gas club car president with a subaru engine so j can learn how to fix mine. I have a 2017 gas club cart that only goes top speed. I can't ease off my foot of the accelerator, if I do, the cart will stop. I don't know what's wrong or what parts are causing this. Please help me fix this problem. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Moe
It sounds like your throttle art or throttle cable are adjusted to the extreme so the cart doesn't "putt" at all. The cart in this video is a Subaru engine so the adjustment should be exactly the same on your cart. So do the opposite of what I do in this video and adjust your cart to drive slower.
@@bacartsvw thank you for your prompt response . I will let you know how it went.🙏
I have a 2017 gas precedent. It randomly fails to go when you push the pedal down for 3-5 seconds. Happens about 40 percent of the time. Any idea what could cause that? Seems like many people had that issue with the electric ones and the MCOR but I didn't believe the gas models have that.
Ah yes, the dreaded compression stroke issue. So the motors in Precedents have an intake stroke and a compression stroke and some Precedents can struggle to start up if the motor stops in compression stroke. Now the reason varies, you could have a weak battery, you could have a weak starter generator, you could have a bad starter belt, or you could have carbon build up on valves or pistons which can cause this. A quick way to not deal with the 4s pause is to just tap the throttle to get the motor to turn over once and then hit the gas and it'll fire right up, but if you just sit on the throttle it'll take a few seconds to get going just like you have been experiencing. To find a solution, I'd first check and see if your battery is loosing juice, you could prove this by throwing a battery charger on the battery (not a trickle charger) and keep stopping and starting the motor and see if it struggles to start in compression stroke. If not, then you have a weak battery.......Hope this helps!
Any tips to speed up my Electric Club Car? I get passed by all my Ez Go neighbors
my top speed is currently 18mph, but i eventually bog down and blow smoke from the exhaust. Am i running into the rev limiter? I have a 2005 club car ds.
I don't have much experience with DS's, but I do know that they have a 11.5hp motor, far less than the 14hp motor in Precedents, so 18mph is about as fast as you're going to go lol. As for the smoke and bogging down, it's very hard to say, it could be an carb issue, a fuel to air issue, etc.
Brand new 2024 onward with high speed gears. 28mph is all I can get from her. My old donkey "97" DS would flutter the valve springs at a smidge over 30. Did I miss a trick or is that all she has to offer?
Got it figured out. A properly placed and tightened zip tie was all it needed. Can cruise 35 now. I imagine you knew this, i'll let you share the trick if you choose to.
I have a 2011 club car. I did the zip tie trick I top out 19 mph.. Is there anything better I can do or other adjustments.
I have a 2014 Club Car Precedence my top speed is 19 but once I get to rolling without stopping it's more like 23
I turned the governor again today and now I’m at 26 that’s with the windshield down. I think that makes a difference.
Weres the oil filter located
No oil filter!
Thanks
Is it the same for an electric club car?
Not even close. You need a programmer and to buy a speed code to speed one up (Club Car Precedent or Tempo). An Electric Club Car Onward has a top speed of 19mph with no program to make it faster
Can you get a new lifted 4 seater Onward to 30 MPH doing this?
30 can be easily reached if you don't care that the throttle is either all or nothing. The trick is to get the most speed while also having your throttle pedal not be so touchy that you can't go 1 or 5 or 10 mph.
I have a new lifted 6 seater onward, gas powered and I did a small trick with a tie wrap in the back. I get 30 mph without a problem. It is an easy fix. Let me know if you are interested.
By the way my Onward is a 2024
Sadly, my 2014 Gas Precedent does not look the same from the back hatch.
bro !
exactly
Why when I step on gas club car it hesitates
Bogging
I had a Chinese cart and it went 30 stock. But it got stolen. This is disappointing for an American cart
Hello, we are a manufacturer with a 20-year history of manufacturing electric vehicles. I can provide richer formulations and personalized customization. Looking forward to contacting you.
What the fuck us that noise in the background??? I have no clue what you said!
This music is BEYOND annoying!
I got a gas carryall turf 700 don't want it to go 20 miles but it very slow how can I increase the speed a Lil without using a zip tide.
I don't have any experience with Carryalls unfortunately. But if you follow the fundamentals of this video I'm sure you'll find the same result!!
Small issue, not entirely sure what model we have, newer precedent, when i floor it for around 4-5 seconds it will putter and lose rpms, what could be the problem?
If you leave the throttle floored what happens? Does it Rev back up again and then lose rpms? Or are you flooring it, you're getting up to full speed and then it drops rpms? How much speed are you losing when it putters and drops? 1mph? 5mph?
If it is floored, it will drop rpm for a second or two, and then will get back up in rpms, sometimes it happens more than not but it still is happening. I can send a video if needed, lmk where best place to contact would be
Probably around 2mph loss, but short after it will get back up to top speed
it is topping out around 26-7 right now and id hope to get it to 30, not sure how to get those extra few mph, prob could dig around on internet
@@bacartsvwit does it when i hit ~26mph