The gold ochre is a 3 pigment mix, PY43,+PR102+PY2. The rest of the 24 color Sonnet set I have: Zinc white=PW4, lamp black=PBk7+PR63:3+PB15, orange=PO13, bluish green=PB15:3+PG7,violet light=PV2, violet deep=PV3, raw sienna, burnt sienna and burnt umber= PB7, Sepia=PR102+PR187+PBk7, english red=101, emerald=PG7 (so actually phtalo green), sap green=PG7+PY3, green deep=PG8, hanza lemon=PY3, yellow medium=PY1, yellow deep=PY2, red light=PR2, carmine=PR170:1,madden lake=PR63:1, ultramarine light=PB29, azure=15:3 and blue=PB15. With these numbers you can find some more detailed info on lightfastness than the 3 star rating system on the box. I agree with your review, and the quality (and not in the least price/quality ratio of this brand) makes me convinced when I will upgrade to artistgrade, White Nights will be a good idea. I
Thank very much for talking the time to provide this information for us to read, its greatly appreciated , funny thing just happened , I just received an email from Crafty studio with a PDF file containing a colour chart with all the pigment numbers on it :) I will show this in the final conclusion video.
I love this yellow set! Ive been wanting one for over a year. Maybe 2022is the year I finally take the dive. Sonnet were the first good watercolors I've used and I still have a few colors left from my first set. I have a small set of 16 White Nights, which I bought open stock and are curated for my own preference. Very good review!
Ooohhh I did paint while youtube was “talking in the background” in its auto play. I didn’t really recognize what was on there. And I suddenly heard your voice! Immediately recognized you by that!!! I know, there used to be many people telling you that they really find your voice soothing, as do I!!! On top of it, I do own that palette and have had it since summer and noticed that it was not very popular around TH-cam so far. So, I am twice as happy today!!! Have a great one and stay safe and healthy!!!😊
Hi Vani, good to know youtube are putting me on auto play :) this palette should be more popular its a great set, thanks for taking the time to write a lovely comment, you have a great one too, take care 🙏
Hi from Estonia. White Night's quin rose and rose looks exactly the same but quin rose has three star ratings and rose just one. And if you liked White nights red ochre then you definitely would like they Shakhnazarskaya red.
Superb and very thorough review! Thanks for sharing! :) I recently finished a lightfast test (5months) of this Sonnet set, scans up on my blog if you're interested. In a nutshell, Madder Lake Red PR63:1 and Violet Light PV2 faded significantly and Orange PO13 faded as well but not as much as the previous two I mentioned. All the others remained unchanged, even Violet Deep PV3. Quick note: my palette hasn't been stained as badly as yours; manufacturing inconsistency maybe?
That's good to know, thanks for that work. I do love that PV2 and PV3 and have bought more in White Nights pans, lightfastness doesn't worry me, I'm only learning and practicing. I can't find anything in White Nights equivalent to the Sonnet deep yellow PY2 , that's something of a gap unless one wants to go for a cadmium. I'm definitely on the search for a lookalike somewhere. You may like to know that I've found some old recipe Carmine 170:1 at stpertersburgwatercolours.com I'm not sure where they mail to or how long they'll have the old stock as it has the same product number (irritating) but I bought 3 and they are all old version. I think is still old version in some of the Sonnet cardboard boxes but who knows when it will or has changed!
Hi, I'm just starting out what watercolors would your recommend, winsor & newton cotman 12 set or sonnet 16 set? I would very much appreciate your suggestions
Hmmmm, do I get this 21 set with it's lovely tin, or the 24 set + separate empty tin that I can expland and grow...decisions, descisions! Great video. I cant quite afford the splurge on White Nights 36, so a £20ish price point is perfect to start out with.
Is the clip at the left under the blocks an extra mixing tray ?? I see the numbers on left corner of each square on the insert are there refills available. Thanks for review 🤗
i don't know if you need the answer anymore but i ve had the 24 set for nearly a year, they are amazing and i would totally recommend them; i haven t used this tin set but from the reviews i think they are the same but with 3 extra colours
Quick note regarding the Palette, the centre section that holds the pans lifts out to provide an extra mixing area underneath , Happy days :)
I loved my Sonnet set and prefere it over Cotman
The gold ochre is a 3 pigment mix, PY43,+PR102+PY2.
The rest of the 24 color Sonnet set I have: Zinc white=PW4, lamp black=PBk7+PR63:3+PB15, orange=PO13, bluish green=PB15:3+PG7,violet light=PV2, violet deep=PV3, raw sienna, burnt sienna and burnt umber= PB7, Sepia=PR102+PR187+PBk7, english red=101, emerald=PG7 (so actually phtalo green), sap green=PG7+PY3, green deep=PG8, hanza lemon=PY3, yellow medium=PY1, yellow deep=PY2, red light=PR2, carmine=PR170:1,madden lake=PR63:1, ultramarine light=PB29, azure=15:3 and blue=PB15.
With these numbers you can find some more detailed info on lightfastness than the 3 star rating system on the box.
I agree with your review, and the quality (and not in the least price/quality ratio of this brand) makes me convinced when I will upgrade to artistgrade, White Nights will be a good idea.
I
Thank very much for talking the time to provide this information for us to read, its greatly appreciated , funny thing just happened , I just received an email from Crafty studio with a PDF file containing a colour chart with all the pigment numbers on it :) I will show this in the final conclusion video.
This video has convinced me to upgrade my current palette to sonnet.
I love this yellow set! Ive been wanting one for over a year. Maybe 2022is the year I finally take the dive. Sonnet were the first good watercolors I've used and I still have a few colors left from my first set. I have a small set of 16 White Nights, which I bought open stock and are curated for my own preference. Very good review!
Pigment numbers are available on web site.
Ooohhh I did paint while youtube was “talking in the background” in its auto play. I didn’t really recognize what was on there. And I suddenly heard your voice! Immediately recognized you by that!!! I know, there used to be many people telling you that they really find your voice soothing, as do I!!! On top of it, I do own that palette and have had it since summer and noticed that it was not very popular around TH-cam so far. So, I am twice as happy today!!! Have a great one and stay safe and healthy!!!😊
Hi Vani, good to know youtube are putting me on auto play :) this palette should be more popular its a great set, thanks for taking the time to write a lovely comment, you have a great one too, take care 🙏
I would have happily paid $20 for the yellow palette alone... The colours are just a bonus...
I have the 16 color set as my very first watercolor set best purchase ever
Hi from Estonia. White Night's quin rose and rose looks exactly the same but quin rose has three star ratings and rose just one. And if you liked White nights red ochre then you definitely would like they Shakhnazarskaya red.
Superb and very thorough review! Thanks for sharing! :) I recently finished a lightfast test (5months) of this Sonnet set, scans up on my blog if you're interested. In a nutshell, Madder Lake Red PR63:1 and Violet Light PV2 faded significantly and Orange PO13 faded as well but not as much as the previous two I mentioned. All the others remained unchanged, even Violet Deep PV3. Quick note: my palette hasn't been stained as badly as yours; manufacturing inconsistency maybe?
Hi! Where can i find results? My first watercolors were sonet, looking into ladoga and white nights, would be grateful for more info about fading.
That's good to know, thanks for that work.
I do love that PV2 and PV3 and have bought more in White Nights pans, lightfastness doesn't worry me, I'm only learning and practicing.
I can't find anything in White Nights equivalent to the Sonnet deep yellow PY2 , that's something of a gap unless one wants to go for a cadmium. I'm definitely on the search for a lookalike somewhere.
You may like to know that I've found some old recipe Carmine 170:1 at stpertersburgwatercolours.com I'm not sure where they mail to or how long they'll have the old stock as it has the same product number (irritating) but I bought 3 and they are all old version. I think is still old version in some of the Sonnet cardboard boxes but who knows when it will or has changed!
I will wait until you have done all the reviews before I buy any, this was really interesting and thought provoking
That was very helpful.
Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, I'm just starting out what watercolors would your recommend, winsor & newton cotman 12 set or sonnet 16 set? I would very much appreciate your suggestions
Hmmmm, do I get this 21 set with it's lovely tin, or the 24 set + separate empty tin that I can expland and grow...decisions, descisions!
Great video. I cant quite afford the splurge on White Nights 36, so a £20ish price point is perfect to start out with.
Is the clip at the left under the blocks an extra mixing tray ?? I see the numbers on left corner of each square on the insert are there refills available. Thanks for review 🤗
Yes the centre section that holds the pans lifts out so you can have extra mixing wells, not sure about refills? I couldn't find any info about that.
Just a little painting: pulls out a masterpiece...
The only open stock from Sonnet is the metallics.
Thanks for the information, much appreciated!
Hi, do these Sonnet paints mix well with others, W&Ñ and Van Gogh for example? Thanks
Yes they do, I've not had any problem with them.
does the sonnet 24 set has the same performance as the tin set?
i don't know if you need the answer anymore but i ve had the 24 set for nearly a year, they are amazing and i would totally recommend them; i haven t used this tin set but from the reviews i think they are the same but with 3 extra colours
May you tell me how many millimeters a single pan height is?
Can u pls tell? What watercolour paper did u use? The texture is really beautiful
Quick question, does the watercolor blend well?
You can buy them on Aliexpress open stock, only pans as much as I know
Yeah, I found them in Aliexpress. Are they the original??
@@elenagomez7081 I think they are.
What a beautiful voice!
Thanks :)
So they'd be more like an apprentice quality then?
These look much better than Van Gogh! I guess they are not more popular because of availability etc.