Thanks for covering this device in more detail! This was the device I was anxiously anticipating until the RT4K was announced, nice to see a deep dive alongside examples and explanations.
One handy thing to point out is that some settings are stored separately for 50Hz and 60Hz, meaning that for most cases you don't need to make separate 50 and 60Hz profiles. If you stretch out the image for 50Hz then you don't need to worry about the 60Hz image being stretched. The only time you'll need a dedicated 50Hz profile is for games that are 50Hz optimized.
Wow. The is the most functional and advanced scalling device at this moment. Great video, but quite unfortunate that you didn't show example of switching between 240p(288p) to 480i(576i) or reverse, to see if this really handle this fast enough that it isn't visible. Support of external cards is also interesting, but if someone has Retrotink 2x and is not interested in capturing RF inputs (or has e.g. VCR), then Legacy AV Input Card could be not necessary.
ossc pro is so good, I am considering to buy another one and pair with legacy av and output to hdmi. My first unit is paired with extra av and is connected to a crt tv (extra av vga to scart) and vga monitor (hdmi to vga).. So my second unit will also provide hdmi out to hdmi monitor... ossc pro is great! Forgot to mention, that ossc pro can also extract audio and output extra av (relevant for monitors without speakers and vga monitors maybe 😂)
I'm contemplating buying a Retro GEM (Basic) mod for my N64, Wobbling Pixels, to complement my HDMI-modded (Electron Shepherd) Wii... Do you plan covering the Morph at some point? I'm asking, because its current "digital only" state wouldn't be an issue for me then. (For specific reasons, such setup would make sense FOR ME because only own 3D consoles...) I know it seems weird to have this HDMI-only retroscaler, but I would like to know more, especially more about the community support and the presets.
how do you get custom shmasks to work, the wiki asks for blahblah/*.txt format files, but neither windows nor linux support / in filenames. ive been trying to figure this out for a year lol.
will the vga output expansion card have a beefy pixelclock? I'd like to use the ossc pro as a top tier hdmi to vga converter. I want to drive higher refresh rates on my sony vga trinitron.
@@wobblingpixels3921 Thanks for the response. I see options to tweak the filter, but I guess I can’t quite tell from the menu what type of comb filter it is. Is it a 3-line? A 3D comb filter? Are there multiple comb filters?
Im vergleich zu RT4K. Ist die OSSC Pro sehr gut wie die RT5X mit paar überraschende Feature. Die DeInterlacing ist auf Motion Adaptive viel besser als die original OSSC. Die Möglichkeit um Composite und S Video zu verbinden mit guten Bild war wenig bei RT5X ähnlich. Je nach Konsole. Auf N64 sah es gut aus mit OEM Composite im RT5X, bei S Video ist es beinahe besser. Das es im OSSC Pro möglich ist, per externe Karte mit RF und Composite. Und denn mit Chrom oder Rauschunterdrückungen anpasst für die Videosignale. Das find ich Heftig, klar es hat paar minimale Artefakt aber die resultat bei DKC sah das echt gut. Da bin ich gespannt wie es denn nachher mit der externe Karte in fertigen aussieht Die HDMI Signale sahen auch gut aus, vielleicht ist es etwas zu scharf mit der weisse kante. Im weiten sicht ist es weniger irritierend. Der 4K Modus ist vielleicht nicht sowie umbedingt 4K, find ich aber vom Resultat in ordnung. Ich selber der ein RetroTink5X besitzt, find ich die OSSC Pro genauso gut. Aber die zukünftige Feature mit dem RF, Composite und S Video die Artefakt zu reduzieren ist schon ziemlich cool. Da muss man nicht umbedingt für N64 und NES umbedingt RGB Mod brauchen. Das reicht so vollkommen wenn man die OG Kabel besitzt mit Composite. Und die DeInterlace auf Motion Adaptive sieht sehr gut. Da überlege ich mir noch dies zu holen, da die RT4K viel teuer ist und auch ausverkauft ist. Es kann sein das RT4K besser ist, aber die OSSC Pro scheint ein gute alternative zu haben neben RT4K.
@@Enchurito ....if you live in the country where you can get it directly... if you are outside, then you are screwed due to expensive import and customs fees.
FINALLY a review of this device. It seemed super suspicious that no reviews had happened since it came out. Gotta admit after watching the results, it looks pretty blurry and unimpressive.
All important links in the video description. Next OSSC Pro batch planned for Mid July.
Enjoy the video 👍
Any idea of what will the frame lag will be for downscaling to 15Khz signal?
Please update the links to the floor wallpapers.
Thanks for the great overlook of the OSSC Pro! The two scaling modes are certainly intriguing.
Thanks for covering this device in more detail! This was the device I was anxiously anticipating until the RT4K was announced, nice to see a deep dive alongside examples and explanations.
Guess this video was in the works for a while? The actual PSP preset that I badgered marqs to restore from the OSSC Classic doesn't have the borders.
Nice to have extra options and no monopoly in the market
It is good and could bring the price of the Retrotink 4k down.
One handy thing to point out is that some settings are stored separately for 50Hz and 60Hz, meaning that for most cases you don't need to make separate 50 and 60Hz profiles. If you stretch out the image for 50Hz then you don't need to worry about the 60Hz image being stretched. The only time you'll need a dedicated 50Hz profile is for games that are 50Hz optimized.
I want to see more regarding the outputs! i'd be very interested in seeing that!
How is it compared to retrotink 5x? Which one do you like more?
ossc pro has hdmi in, alone this is a big advantage! 😊
That RF input module is enticing. Other scalers need to adopt that
This thing is so much more capable than i realised
Please do an OSSC Pro vs Retrotink 5x comparison. Thanks!
Wow. The is the most functional and advanced scalling device at this moment. Great video, but quite unfortunate that you didn't show example of switching between 240p(288p) to 480i(576i) or reverse, to see if this really handle this fast enough that it isn't visible. Support of external cards is also interesting, but if someone has Retrotink 2x and is not interested in capturing RF inputs (or has e.g. VCR), then Legacy AV Input Card could be not necessary.
the resolution switch is about instant as with other scalers.
Think we'll see a 4K version?
ossc pro is so good, I am considering to buy another one and pair with legacy av and output to hdmi. My first unit is paired with extra av and is connected to a crt tv (extra av vga to scart) and vga monitor (hdmi to vga).. So my second unit will also provide hdmi out to hdmi monitor... ossc pro is great! Forgot to mention, that ossc pro can also extract audio and output extra av (relevant for monitors without speakers and vga monitors maybe 😂)
Great video, a very nice overview of all the settings and what it can do.
Awesome video! Thanks for your hard & thorough work!
Bottom Line it for me. Is it better, cheaper, and more available than RetroTink 5X?
I order OSSC Pro yesterday 🎉
I'm contemplating buying a Retro GEM (Basic) mod for my N64, Wobbling Pixels, to complement my HDMI-modded (Electron Shepherd) Wii...
Do you plan covering the Morph at some point?
I'm asking, because its current "digital only" state wouldn't be an issue for me then. (For specific reasons, such setup would make sense FOR ME because only own 3D consoles...)
I know it seems weird to have this HDMI-only retroscaler, but I would like to know more, especially more about the community support and the presets.
Is the 240p 120hz mode for vga crt monitors? Would love to see how that looks.
Does the HDMI In do pass through?
I was about to buy one from the last batch but I was too late. Hopefully in the next batch I get one.
how do you get custom shmasks to work, the wiki asks for blahblah/*.txt format files, but neither windows nor linux support / in filenames. ive been trying to figure this out for a year lol.
Really I just wish it had a more modern OSD, that has always been the biggest turn off for me.
Is a dejitter mod needed for a SNES or is it unnecessary like on the RT5X?
Does the ossc pro support 3x interlaced doubling without deinterlacing?
will the vga output expansion card have a beefy pixelclock? I'd like to use the ossc pro as a top tier hdmi to vga converter. I want to drive higher refresh rates on my sony vga trinitron.
N64 Scart and S-Video look really similar
Do you know what kind of comb filter is applied when using the composite input card?
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@@wobblingpixels3921 Thanks for the response. I see options to tweak the filter, but I guess I can’t quite tell from the menu what type of comb filter it is. Is it a 3-line? A 3D comb filter? Are there multiple comb filters?
Im vergleich zu RT4K. Ist die OSSC Pro sehr gut wie die RT5X mit paar überraschende Feature. Die DeInterlacing ist auf Motion Adaptive viel besser als die original OSSC. Die Möglichkeit um Composite und S Video zu verbinden mit guten Bild war wenig bei RT5X ähnlich. Je nach Konsole. Auf N64 sah es gut aus mit OEM Composite im RT5X, bei S Video ist es beinahe besser. Das es im OSSC Pro möglich ist, per externe Karte mit RF und Composite. Und denn mit Chrom oder Rauschunterdrückungen anpasst für die Videosignale. Das find ich Heftig, klar es hat paar minimale Artefakt aber die resultat bei DKC sah das echt gut. Da bin ich gespannt wie es denn nachher mit der externe Karte in fertigen aussieht
Die HDMI Signale sahen auch gut aus, vielleicht ist es etwas zu scharf mit der weisse kante. Im weiten sicht ist es weniger irritierend.
Der 4K Modus ist vielleicht nicht sowie umbedingt 4K, find ich aber vom Resultat in ordnung.
Ich selber der ein RetroTink5X besitzt, find ich die OSSC Pro genauso gut. Aber die zukünftige Feature mit dem RF, Composite und S Video die Artefakt zu reduzieren ist schon ziemlich cool. Da muss man nicht umbedingt für N64 und NES umbedingt RGB Mod brauchen. Das reicht so vollkommen wenn man die OG Kabel besitzt mit Composite. Und die DeInterlace auf Motion Adaptive sieht sehr gut.
Da überlege ich mir noch dies zu holen, da die RT4K viel teuer ist und auch ausverkauft ist. Es kann sein das RT4K besser ist, aber die OSSC Pro scheint ein gute alternative zu haben neben RT4K.
No composite built in makes this hard for me to consider over the RT5.
Especially since the RetroTink5X is around the same price
I guess wait for the av legacy card with composite, s-video and rf to release and then you can take a second look.
@@Enchurito ....if you live in the country where you can get it directly... if you are outside, then you are screwed due to expensive import and customs fees.
Super informative, as usual! Thanks.
FINALLY a review of this device. It seemed super suspicious that no reviews had happened since it came out. Gotta admit after watching the results, it looks pretty blurry and unimpressive.
Blurry? What's wrong with you.
@@triple_lei I agree watching this video at 144p the video is a bit blurry.
This is a upscaler, not an emulator.
@@triple_leiafter seeing both the RetroTink5x and RetroTink4K, every one of these images look noticably worse in comparison.
What is the scaler you use?
Have they fixed them frying themselves out?
poggers
damn this thing still looks way less accessible than a retrotink
Any news on a 4k one?
Ossc has lower lag