Some more info on 256-wide aspect ratio tweaking is in the main post: www.retrorgb.com/ossc-basics-intermediate-use.html I didn't include it here, because I didn't want to confuse anyone...and because 1080p5x won't work on everyone's displays. It's an awesome trick and worth reading about if you decide to use the custom profiles.
Damn no profiles for the PS2 :( The other problem I have is the OSSC is displaying a black screen only (I've got sound). So no image, using an RGB scart adapter (so the tulip cables into the scart adapter). What can I do, I am out of ideas.
Omg exactly the video I’ve been looking for. The main reason I’ve held off buying the OSSC... Not wanting to really mess with settings. Every laid out perfectly. You’re the man! Going to purchase one today. Appreciate it.
I came here from a link I found randomly. I have no idea about half of what you said, but I have nothing but admiration for your knowledge and willingness to share it.
Great video! I haven’t been able to use it past 3x on my monitor but had a Chance to connect a Saturn to a 4K tv recently at 5x and was blown away by how good the IQ is even at the stock settings.
Just wanted to thank you for this vid. I've had the OSSC for over a year but you covered some of my knowledge gaps and motivated me to grab an empty sd to update firmware and image the FBX settings on it. I was still adding some manually and it was such a pain. I think your vid will result in me using this device more often, and I'll point people with general questions about the device to watch too.
We're all waiting with no release date announced. From the shmups forum, marqs latest post from August: "A second prototype board should be finished soon. Estimates on release date etc. will have to wait until that's on my hands and verified. It's also worth remembering that even if the prototype HW works flawlessly and is ready for production, firmware is still far from the point which I feel comfortable releasing it with"
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I just got one second hand off of a friend and have been able to stumble around on it, but your guides are awesome and I'm sure I'll get more out of it now.
Nice to see this guide, I recently purchased an OSSC and have many consoles to experiment with when I get time, which is hopefully soon, so good timing for me. Had a quick go with the PS1 which looked good from generic settings and the PSP which was also quite good but the screen size was very small, looking forward to learning a little more to get better results without spending too much time on changing settings.
Fantastic video as always and really informative. I’ve recently purchased an OSSC and I’m quite new to this stuff but your videos help a lot and was a great starting point for research. I have to say the generic mode has just blown me way. Perfect Dark has never looked so good, however I definitely want to fine tune it with the custom profiles. Many thanks for explaining this. From a fan in the UK 🙏 🇬🇧 🤘
Excellent video. Very surprised that no one has made something as succinct as this until now. I think I may have to finally get one. I just wish finding a capture card that played nicely with it was this simple
Thx for the tutorial. I might add that the first thing I had to setup when I got my OSSC was to setup the remote, since it wasn't working at all out of the box.
Wow thank you so much for the video. Would love more deep dives into the OSSC settings as a lay-man. I don't know what most of these are, and these explanations are great! Heck I didn't even realize there was a micro SD card slot on the device for updates!
@@PvtHudson Yeah, I just kept using my OSSC thinking firmware updates would be minor stuff and not features I really care about so never paid attention since I bought it. Also, I haven't had a need for profiles until recently (mvs doesn't work without Hsync tolerance changes)
If your OSSC is not showing the menu on screen like in the video do the firmware update and it should show up. Mine was not showing the menu on screen and was really inconvenient to do everything off the LCD screen on the OSSC. After the firmware update the menu showed up no problem. Great video!
Oh thank god there's an "easier" way to set phase. I followed the FBX guide from a while ago and it seemed like such a pain, might just pull the trigger on a few flashcarts now
Great video. Where would you suggest i look for information on ossc setting for PAL consoles? I've got my ntsc genesis and n64 looking great, but my childhood ps1 and ps2 leave a lot to be desired 😓
Hey Bob. Perhaps you didn’t know but the OSSC supports 1600x1200/1920x1200 output for Line5X. This means you’ll get fullscreen support without cropping on a display if it supports higher than 1920x1080 resolutions. With optimized timings dialed it this gives a razor sharp image. I love to combine it with 100% normal scanlines. Looks insane on 240p content on my old LG C6 OLED. You do have to increase the backlight or OLED light on your display. Running these settings on my Sony W900 gives the best of both worlds. CRT motion with integer scaling.
Yeah, those are all cool features. This was supposed to be a beginner video though, so I didn't want to focus on anything that might be confusing to newcomers though. Also, I usually really like the cropping of 1080p 5x :)
I'm still learning on what all cables & connections to get for my model 1 genesis. I'm new to this stuff. What's the best to get to get the best experience possible? Thanks
Hey there, interested in getting into the OSSC but was wondering whether it's possible to add black bars to the top and bottom of the screen so games are pixel perfect on 1080p displays. I want to be able to play all my consoles at integer scales only and my monitor tends to fill the image out vertically no matter what. I'm totally fine with the image being smaller and in the middle of the display so long as it's integer if that makes sense. Is that something the OSSC does / can do??
I've had the OSSC for about a week now and honestly love creating optimal timings (I use PAL hardware so their aren't already purpose built profiles out there). It's only a pain for the first day or so of trying to get your head round the concepts and then it's fairly easy to feel around and try different things. I don't have anything that can run test patterns but one thing I've found that helps get the h.samplerate and phase set is cranking the sharpness up on my monitor and to enable it's 'Super Resolution' (basically very strong sharpening). I then turn off the two LPFs in 'Video in proc' and 'sync opt.' This makes the noise very apparent and pretty easy to dial in to a clear image.
NEED HELP! I bought the OSSC, but how do I connect my SNES/GameCube and N64? Those are pal versions, so I only have the Scart (Composite Scart/ red, white and yellow) connector. The OSSC only support true RGB Scart Signal. What are my opportunities to get OSSC running with Pal Devices?
Thanks for this, it clarified something I didn't understand. I thought profiles that weren't customized were just considered blank, not generic, so I've totally avoided generic (unknowingly) up until now. I've always worked off of another profile when adjusting. I've been trying to tweak settings to get a good PS2 image, and FBX had said generic is the way to go. Now I actually know what that means and am excited to give it another go. I stuck with my Framemeister for PS2 as there aren't a ton of resolution switches on PS2 and it worked well.
Hi bob thanks for the video, if people like me have a new one with a firmware from 2018 and you can't find the firmware update option it's here "Menu > Settings Opt. > Update FIrmware" the options menu have submenus (i just learned).
Question, so my ossc has my genesis and my ps1 going in from scart. It's display shows like 525i or 256i as the signal its receiving. And the only signal that will work on my TV seems to be line 2x which always shows up on my TV as 480p. My TV is a 1080p compatible TV I dont understand why line 3x which should be 720 never shows up. I also don't see any deonterlacong settings, the only setting that comes up is the LPF and what line multiplier I want to use
How do you get pictures from a Super famicom NTSC Jap ? I see well with ossc 1.6 and avermedia plus2, but I register a black screen. Are you using an add-in card between the SFC and ossc ? If I use a SNES PAL I can see well and I can record without problems. Do you know the SFC has an RGB video signal with Macrovision ?? or nuisance signal? What prevents registration? Thanks for your valuable videos.
SFC + OSSC works fine. Does your capture card accept both NTSC and PAL signals? Also, have you tested the SFC on other displays or scalers? Maybe try setting the output resolution to 2x (480p) just to test?
@@RetroRGB I have done several tests, but I read that super famicom, has a nervous sync and therefore they recommend installing a card in it, which stabilizes the synchronism signal. This card is called De Jitter . For now I’ll just try to capture it in another way, switching to analog with a FireWire Canopus, but it’s just a temporary solution .
Hey, so, with 256 mode, you say the aspect ratio can't be changed. But, there's the "256x240 aspect" option under Output Opt., which I've been setting to 4:3, rather than 8:7, and then it looks much more correct, and not just "square" like your example. Is this somehow different to what you're talking about? I wouldn't want to presume you missed an option, but it seemed like a strange omission as my own experiences go.
You're correct, however the aspect ratio only looks correct in 4x and 5x modes and even then it's still a hair too wide. I didn't discuss it in the video since I didn't want to confuse things, but yeah, give this a try.
@@RetroRGB Certainly for just playing, it can be a preference thing for sure; I recognise that the 4:3 setting might not be completely accurate, but yeah myself at least I find it closer, or at least a worthwhile compromise to still get those crisp pixels. Also, as a PAL gamer, our 256-wide games were squished wider anyway, so perhaps it looks less off to me than to you, even in 5x mode haha. Makes sense you didn't want to confuse things, though. Thanks for the great and clear video once again.
Great video! Appreciate all the information. I agree with the Generic 4:3. It's my go to for pretty much all consoles. With the OSSC Pro I really hope there will be support for better scanline options. Not to say the current is bad, but something that looks more like a CRT would be nice. Or maybe even RetroArch style scanline options.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Just a small question, if a have a console connected ussing svideo or vga, the rca cables for the sound will be connected to the ossc or directly to the monitor? Thanks in advance!
Last question, you know when you move fast in side scrollers you get that nasty blurring/ghosting effect, how is that on this TV please? You don't need to turn BFI on right?
Many Xbox games that run at 480p have very thin black pillar box bars baked into the signal. If I'm going for the aspect ratio I'd see on a 4:3 CRT, do I set timings so the image itself is stretched to 4:3 and thus cutting off the black bars, or resize everything including the black bars to 4:3?
Thank you. Sounds like I might need the OSSC. I'm planning on playing on a 32:9 monitor and I need something that will emulate that signal else the monitor adds imput lag.
Since the OSSC is a line multiplier without a buffer, it’ll always drop signal for a short time when switching resolutions. For the same reason, it’ll always be near zero lag though :)
@@RetroRGB I’m looking for the right upscaler for Gamecube and Wii. Would love to get the RT5X but I can’t find it anywhere in Canada, new or used. I was hoping the final version of OSSC (pre OSSC Pro) might be the one to get, but the GC era-games are full of resolution changes. Not sure which direction to go in. Thanks for all your knowledge and work you put into your channel. I’ve watched many hours of your analyses, trying to find the right scaler. I appreciate your personality and great work ethic.
Thank you for this video. I'm sorry, but I'm apparently too stupid to recognize the difference. What exactly is the difference with the Circle Shaped Loop in Sonic 1? Just the different ratio or should there be something else to recognize? 🧐
Just a different aspect ratio. It's been a debate between us retro nerds for years and honestly doesn't matter...as long as you don't stretch the full game to 16:9 :)
Do I still need to purchase a Skart cable if I already have componet Cables for the PS2? Mine just shows the grey scale line but I don’t know what to push afterwords to recognize the PS2
Component cables will work great. Just change the input on the OSSC for it to recognize it. You might want to check in the PS2's settings that it's set for component as well.
Sure, you can use it as-is and it's great. You can even use the remote to dial in the custom profiles. It'll take a bit longer than with a PC, but you can save when you're done and it'll be exactly the same.
At a basic level, there is no difference. My suggestion is usually this: Do you have MANY consoles that only output analog video that you want to use on a flat-panel?: Get a scaler. Do you only have one or two? And if so, are there good HDMI mods available? If yes to both, do that, as it's cheaper and easier overall. So, for me, it's more of an overall, big picture issue.
Hello my friend, your vídeo and the way that you explain are so great! Thank you so much! I have one doubt, I’ve imported the settings for N64, and other settings that I got in youtube, but in general the image turn so sharped and in my HDTV is not working so good. I would like to set a image less sharped. Could you please help me where topi exactly I need to change?
I'm having problems with my 1.6 OSSC, I did the firmware update and have succesfully created profiles for my SNES and Wii, but I can only get a black and white output. I'm using RCA output for both consoles, I have my yellow cable plugged on the green input on the back of the OSSC and the white and red cables connected to a 3.5mm jack converter.... Any idea on why it's only outputting black and white?.... And how I may get color?
I wish i understood it all. I have a Pal PS2 @576i i can used bob deinterlacing on it to convert it to 576p? Using freemcboot i can use the OPL loader and set most games to play in 576p..Whilst using component cables which scenario gives me the better picture? I don't think my TV handles signals between 720 and 1080p. If I set my consoles to 480i and line triple does that give me a 720p signal..ideally i want the 6th generation consoles looking their best on a flat panel . can the OSSC do this for me better than using the software mods i have on me Wii, PS2 and Xbox. Cheers
Where can I find the best settings for the PS2? I only found a single video on TH-cam teaching it, but I didn't really like the result, I wanted to test other options
I think the generic setting might be best. The reason is PS2 is mostly 480i and the OSSC only has one deinterlacing option. If you want better deinterlacing, look into the GBS-Control and RetroTINK 5x - I have detailed videos for both on this channel.
Hi, Using a SNES with OSSC. If my 4k flat panel tv frequently looses signal and comes back again by it self, does it mean that the TV isn't compatible with OSSC? Or can it be tweaked through the settings? Thanks
That's a common issue. I'd suggest changing the output resolution to 2x, then 3x, then 4x, etc, to see which works best. SOME TV's don't work with SNES in any output setting, but those are pretty rare...most work at least in 2x mode.
@@RetroRGB thanks for your quick reply. I'll try that but the TV is also new and I'm on the return window. I'm willing to return and do some research to see what's compatible. Any suggestions would definitely help. Thanks again.
If you need to pick a different TV, check out the video by Digital Foundry from earlier this year that tests different TV's. They have good picks from every price range.
Congratulations on the video. I wanted to ask you if you tried to connect a Raspberry using RGBPI os4 , because ossc returns me no sync . So I was wondering if I should create a special profile, and what values I need to know to understand how to properly hook the RGB signal, which comes out of the euro scart rgb socket of the RGBPI operating system installed on a Raspberry pi 4. Thank you
@@RetroRGB Too bad, for now I have been able to hear the audio of RGBPI os4 by switching from ossc, after updating the firmware to version 0.90. The video still doesn’t. I found the timing configuration file and now I have to figure out if the parameters found on the ossc configurator are the same as those found in the timing.dat file inside RGBPI os4. Your video was enlightening and now I want to try and see if I can make it work. Because ossc works for me with everything without doing anything, but from what little I’ve seen there are so many parameters to change. Thanks again for your wonderful work . Congratulations .
Thanks for the kind words. Is it possible to get the audio from the 3.5mm connector of the Pi? You'd have to edit the config file, but that could work.
@@RetroRGB yes RGBPI os4, from the os menu you can also manage audio via 3.5mm jack. What I wanted to say is that after updating to FW 0.90 I was able to receive the audio directly from the rgbpi scart socket, which previously nothing could be heard. I just have to understand the V and H synchronism values it uses and if they vary or are fixed. alternatively understand if it is possible to disable the C sync, which is the problem? now I hear audio but I don't see images, going from the RGBPI scart and not from the audio jack.
@@RetroRGB Finally I found the way to be able to video record the matches and screens of RGBPI, leaving the scart rgb socket at 15khz, passing by an ossc and finally recorded by an avermedia plus 2. Thanks to recalbox’s dual rgb card this was possible
I only really find Generic 4:3 useful for Playstation, as you stated, but the other scenario I tend to prefer it is with model 1 Genesis -- it masks some of the vertical lines if re-capping didn't fix the issue.
Hey helpful video thanks! How do I enable and configure a filter? I'm using firmware 0.86 Want to get a good picture for my PAL Gamecube I hooked it up through an original Scart RGB cable by Nintendo, passthrough HDMI switch and connected with an classic leading to my TV Greetings from Germany
games with the ossc on a 55" oled tv. The ossc It is linked to my ps2 via scart cable. May you suggest me the ossc best configuration? I find the line3x is the best for me but maybe i am wrong..
It's between the OSSC and the RetroTINK 2x Multiformat. My opinion is that you should choose what's best for all your consoles. Check out this post and the corresponding video for more info: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink-2x-m-720p-mode-added.html
Will an ossc help smooth out jaggedy ps2 graphics if you go from component to hdmi on a 1080p tv? They drive me crazy on kingdom hearts 2 final mix and gsm cant seem to do much with a regular component input. It makes me miss my old crt >
I keep my TV at “auto”…but if you have to chose, match the OSSC’s output. So if it’s outputting 1080p, set your TV to 16:9, the the OSSC is adding the black bars to the sides for proper aspect ratio.
10:16 im pretty sure it is the right aspect ratio on the default profile, because i think its just running in the snes output aspect ratio of 8:7 instead of what it got stretched to normally(4:3)
How much is the OSSC Pro going to cost? What's the release date? I can't find anything on google. Do they have a backer page. Like it happened with the Mclassic?
Thanks for this! When you upload the custom profiles to the OSSC, can you remove the SD card and still have the profiles on the OSSC, or do you need to keep the SD card inside to use those custom profiles?
Some more info on 256-wide aspect ratio tweaking is in the main post: www.retrorgb.com/ossc-basics-intermediate-use.html
I didn't include it here, because I didn't want to confuse anyone...and because 1080p5x won't work on everyone's displays. It's an awesome trick and worth reading about if you decide to use the custom profiles.
any link to adquire?
Damn no profiles for the PS2 :(
The other problem I have is the OSSC is displaying a black screen only (I've got sound). So no image, using an RGB scart adapter (so the tulip cables into the scart adapter).
What can I do, I am out of ideas.
good video. ive had mine for years and you went over some things id never seen before. well done
No svideo
Does it actually make a difference having a OSSC?
Mistakes weren’t made.
Omg exactly the video I’ve been looking for. The main reason I’ve held off buying the OSSC... Not wanting to really mess with settings. Every laid out perfectly. You’re the man! Going to purchase one today. Appreciate it.
I thought the same for myself a few days. Thank you for this video
I came here from a link I found randomly. I have no idea about half of what you said, but I have nothing but admiration for your knowledge and willingness to share it.
Thanks very much!
You are such a retro-warrior ♥ - what an amazing piece of info we have here gentlemens
Thank you so much for this, man. I've been needing a video like this to dumb it down for me for so long. You're the best!
Great video. I upgraded the firmware and imported profiles and couldn't be happier with my new OSSC setup. Awesome.
Great video! I haven’t been able to use it past 3x on my monitor but had a Chance to connect a Saturn to a 4K tv recently at 5x and was blown away by how good the IQ is even at the stock settings.
Just wanted to thank you for this vid. I've had the OSSC for over a year but you covered some of my knowledge gaps and motivated me to grab an empty sd to update firmware and image the FBX settings on it. I was still adding some manually and it was such a pain. I think your vid will result in me using this device more often, and I'll point people with general questions about the device to watch too.
The fact this now works great with DOS machines is making its versatility fantastic for its price.
Thank you. For your work 👨💻. Especially for ossc configuration files
Thank you!!!
Although I own an OSSC for over a year now, I just learned something new. Thanks for the video!
I wish people would start calling Bob D. Interlacing by his full name: Sir Robert Daniel Interlacing II.
lol
Great video I am waiting for my OSSC to arrive, glued to my shipping tracking updates :D
Any idea when the OSSC PRO coming out? Been waiting for it before I buy anything
We're all waiting with no release date announced. From the shmups forum, marqs latest post from August:
"A second prototype board should be finished soon. Estimates on release date etc. will have to wait until that's on my hands and verified. It's also worth remembering that even if the prototype HW works flawlessly and is ready for production, firmware is still far from the point which I feel comfortable releasing it with"
@@bruceg22000 thanks
@@GFDthatsMe does it have composite
Also got delayed because of COVID
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I just got one second hand off of a friend and have been able to stumble around on it, but your guides are awesome and I'm sure I'll get more out of it now.
Firebrand has done some amazing work on the profiles, I just wish someone would pickup the mantle for us PAL users!
I know! I want an ossc but no idea which timing files are needed for a PAL SNES
Awesome video, really helped with setting up my OSSC!
TH-cam notified me of this a full day after it was uploaded lol
Nice to see this guide, I recently purchased an OSSC and have many consoles to experiment with when I get time, which is hopefully soon, so good timing for me. Had a quick go with the PS1 which looked good from generic settings and the PSP which was also quite good but the screen size was very small, looking forward to learning a little more to get better results without spending too much time on changing settings.
Thank you for this video - all I wanted to know. Going to buy one rn. Great channel, keep up the good work!
Finally took long enough for someone to do this lol
Thanks Bob!
just bought one two weeks ago (or so) thanks for this!
Yes! Been waiting for a video like this.
Fantastic video as always and really informative. I’ve recently purchased an OSSC and I’m quite new to this stuff but your videos help a lot and was a great starting point for research. I have to say the generic mode has just blown me way. Perfect Dark has never looked so good, however I definitely want to fine tune it with the custom profiles. Many thanks for explaining this. From a fan in the UK 🙏 🇬🇧 🤘
Thanks very much for the kind words! And yeah, the generic mode is excellent in most cases.
Excellent video. Very surprised that no one has made something as succinct as this until now. I think I may have to finally get one. I just wish finding a capture card that played nicely with it was this simple
Just got TORO box and an OSSC for my dreamcast. HOLY CRAP! it looks so good
Great video! Thanks for letting me know about the OSSC Online Profile Editor.
Much needed tutorial! Thank you for the time and effort put in this!
Thanks for the guide ossc is a great device for old consoles
Thx for the tutorial. I might add that the first thing I had to setup when I got my OSSC was to setup the remote, since it wasn't working at all out of the box.
Great video as always RGBob 👏😃
Wow thank you so much for the video. Would love more deep dives into the OSSC settings as a lay-man. I don't know what most of these are, and these explanations are great! Heck I didn't even realize there was a micro SD card slot on the device for updates!
did not realize that the OSSC got an On screen display and profiles since I purchased it...
Looks like i'm gonna be updating my firmware now.
Profiles been there since forever. The OSD has been added through a firmware update.
@@PvtHudson Yeah, I just kept using my OSSC thinking firmware updates would be minor stuff and not features I really care about so never paid attention since I bought it. Also, I haven't had a need for profiles until recently (mvs doesn't work without Hsync tolerance changes)
Thank you! I have been wanting this video and I didn't even know it!
Hey Bob, great video! But I wonder, would you still recommend bob deinterlacing if your name wasn't Bob?
Thank you for the help you really showed me a lot. Appreciate you
If your OSSC is not showing the menu on screen like in the video do the firmware update and it should show up. Mine was not showing the menu on screen and was really inconvenient to do everything off the LCD screen on the OSSC. After the firmware update the menu showed up no problem. Great video!
Oh thank god there's an "easier" way to set phase. I followed the FBX guide from a while ago and it seemed like such a pain, might just pull the trigger on a few flashcarts now
Great video. Where would you suggest i look for information on ossc setting for PAL consoles? I've got my ntsc genesis and n64 looking great, but my childhood ps1 and ps2 leave a lot to be desired 😓
Hey Bob. Perhaps you didn’t know but the OSSC supports 1600x1200/1920x1200 output for Line5X. This means you’ll get fullscreen support without cropping on a display if it supports higher than 1920x1080 resolutions. With optimized timings dialed it this gives a razor sharp image. I love to combine it with 100% normal scanlines. Looks insane on 240p content on my old LG C6 OLED. You do have to increase the backlight or OLED light on your display. Running these settings on my Sony W900 gives the best of both worlds. CRT motion with integer scaling.
Yeah, those are all cool features. This was supposed to be a beginner video though, so I didn't want to focus on anything that might be confusing to newcomers though. Also, I usually really like the cropping of 1080p 5x :)
I'm still learning on what all cables & connections to get for my model 1 genesis. I'm new to this stuff. What's the best to get to get the best experience possible? Thanks
th-cam.com/video/UaPs4VGG-Po/w-d-xo.html / www.retrorgb.com/genesisrgbcables.html
Thank you!
I am so angry this channel does not get the type of success it deserves ...
LOL, me too! And thank you for watching :)
Thanks for the video. I’m starting to take a look and this is great intro to it.
Great video as always!
Really good video, i got my OSSC yesterday :)
Hey there, interested in getting into the OSSC but was wondering whether it's possible to add black bars to the top and bottom of the screen so games are pixel perfect on 1080p displays. I want to be able to play all my consoles at integer scales only and my monitor tends to fill the image out vertically no matter what. I'm totally fine with the image being smaller and in the middle of the display so long as it's integer if that makes sense. Is that something the OSSC does / can do??
Yup, 4x mode should do exactly that. Although I LOVE 5x mode. I'll have a video coming out soon that explains why.
@@RetroRGB awesome thanks for the info! Looking forward to the video.
I've had the OSSC for about a week now and honestly love creating optimal timings (I use PAL hardware so their aren't already purpose built profiles out there). It's only a pain for the first day or so of trying to get your head round the concepts and then it's fairly easy to feel around and try different things.
I don't have anything that can run test patterns but one thing I've found that helps get the h.samplerate and phase set is cranking the sharpness up on my monitor and to enable it's 'Super Resolution' (basically very strong sharpening). I then turn off the two LPFs in 'Video in proc' and 'sync opt.' This makes the noise very apparent and pretty easy to dial in to a clear image.
NEED HELP!
I bought the OSSC, but how do I connect my SNES/GameCube and N64? Those are pal versions, so I only have the Scart (Composite Scart/ red, white and yellow) connector.
The OSSC only support true RGB Scart Signal.
What are my opportunities to get OSSC running with Pal Devices?
I finally got my hands on one here in Australia looking forward to it
Thanks for this, it clarified something I didn't understand. I thought profiles that weren't customized were just considered blank, not generic, so I've totally avoided generic (unknowingly) up until now. I've always worked off of another profile when adjusting. I've been trying to tweak settings to get a good PS2 image, and FBX had said generic is the way to go. Now I actually know what that means and am excited to give it another go. I stuck with my Framemeister for PS2 as there aren't a ton of resolution switches on PS2 and it worked well.
Hi bob thanks for the video, if people like me have a new one with a firmware from 2018 and you can't find the firmware update option it's here "Menu > Settings Opt. > Update FIrmware" the options menu have submenus (i just learned).
Hi, after few minutes, my ossc is broken, There is no more image on the LCD screen and my TV doesn't display any more images either 😥
Does the OSSC Pro have a profile editor site too like the regular one ?
The "auto" button on flat panel displays locks in the correct phase from analog VGA sources, so its entirely possible to design a product to do it.
Question, so my ossc has my genesis and my ps1 going in from scart. It's display shows like 525i or 256i as the signal its receiving. And the only signal that will work on my TV seems to be line 2x which always shows up on my TV as 480p. My TV is a 1080p compatible TV I dont understand why line 3x which should be 720 never shows up. I also don't see any deonterlacong settings, the only setting that comes up is the LPF and what line multiplier I want to use
How do you get pictures from a Super famicom NTSC Jap ? I see well with ossc 1.6 and avermedia plus2, but I register a black screen. Are you using an add-in card between the SFC and ossc ?
If I use a SNES PAL I can see well and I can record without problems.
Do you know the SFC has an RGB video signal with Macrovision ?? or nuisance signal? What prevents registration?
Thanks for your valuable videos.
SFC + OSSC works fine. Does your capture card accept both NTSC and PAL signals? Also, have you tested the SFC on other displays or scalers? Maybe try setting the output resolution to 2x (480p) just to test?
@@RetroRGB I have done several tests, but I read that super famicom, has a nervous sync and therefore they recommend installing a card in it, which stabilizes the synchronism signal. This card is called De Jitter . For now I’ll just try to capture it in another way, switching to analog with a FireWire Canopus, but it’s just a temporary solution .
Hey, so, with 256 mode, you say the aspect ratio can't be changed. But, there's the "256x240 aspect" option under Output Opt., which I've been setting to 4:3, rather than 8:7, and then it looks much more correct, and not just "square" like your example.
Is this somehow different to what you're talking about? I wouldn't want to presume you missed an option, but it seemed like a strange omission as my own experiences go.
Likewise I'd like clarification on this. I set my line 4x optimized aspect ratio to 4:3 vs 8:7 for 256 Genesis games and it seems fine
You're correct, however the aspect ratio only looks correct in 4x and 5x modes and even then it's still a hair too wide. I didn't discuss it in the video since I didn't want to confuse things, but yeah, give this a try.
@@RetroRGB Certainly for just playing, it can be a preference thing for sure; I recognise that the 4:3 setting might not be completely accurate, but yeah myself at least I find it closer, or at least a worthwhile compromise to still get those crisp pixels. Also, as a PAL gamer, our 256-wide games were squished wider anyway, so perhaps it looks less off to me than to you, even in 5x mode haha.
Makes sense you didn't want to confuse things, though. Thanks for the great and clear video once again.
Really stupid question, but do you have a link to the adapter for the sound you used in the beginning of the video?
Great video! Appreciate all the information. I agree with the Generic 4:3. It's my go to for pretty much all consoles. With the OSSC Pro I really hope there will be support for better scanline options. Not to say the current is bad, but something that looks more like a CRT would be nice. Or maybe even RetroArch style scanline options.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Just a small question, if a have a console connected ussing svideo or vga, the rca cables for the sound will be connected to the ossc or directly to the monitor? Thanks in advance!
It doesn't matter - The OSSC doesn't add any lag, so you don't need to worry about audio sync. Good question though!
What did you use to connect your Genesis model 3? And could (if it has a converter to the model 1) you share where you got the cords?
I have all that on the website :) Here you go: www.retrorgb.com/genesisrgbcables.html
www.retrorgb.com/genesis3.html
great video, my OSSC is coming tomorrow
update: I FREGGING LOVE THIS THING!!!!!!!!!!!
Last question, you know when you move fast in side scrollers you get that nasty blurring/ghosting effect, how is that on this TV please? You don't need to turn BFI on right?
Many Xbox games that run at 480p have very thin black pillar box bars baked into the signal. If I'm going for the aspect ratio I'd see on a 4:3 CRT, do I set timings so the image itself is stretched to 4:3 and thus cutting off the black bars, or resize everything including the black bars to 4:3?
What adapter did you use for the red and white cables?
Thank you for your awesome video!!!
Looking at getting one. What's the audio input cable I need? Looks like it's a converter to 3.5 jack?
Thank you. Sounds like I might need the OSSC. I'm planning on playing on a 32:9 monitor and I need something that will emulate that signal else the monitor adds imput lag.
Hi Bob, do you know if OSSC (1.8) still goes to a black screen when a game’s resolution changes?
Since the OSSC is a line multiplier without a buffer, it’ll always drop signal for a short time when switching resolutions. For the same reason, it’ll always be near zero lag though :)
@@RetroRGB I’m looking for the right upscaler for Gamecube and Wii. Would love to get the RT5X but I can’t find it anywhere in Canada, new or used. I was hoping the final version of OSSC (pre OSSC Pro) might be the one to get, but the GC era-games are full of resolution changes. Not sure which direction to go in.
Thanks for all your knowledge and work you put into your channel. I’ve watched many hours of your analyses, trying to find the right scaler. I appreciate your personality and great work ethic.
i use my OSSC as a plug and play device and it still looks great. i havent changed any settings
Appreciate this Video!
Thank you for this video. I'm sorry, but I'm apparently too stupid to recognize the difference. What exactly is the difference with the Circle Shaped Loop in Sonic 1? Just the different ratio or should there be something else to recognize? 🧐
Just a different aspect ratio. It's been a debate between us retro nerds for years and honestly doesn't matter...as long as you don't stretch the full game to 16:9 :)
Do I still need to purchase a Skart cable if I already have componet Cables for the PS2? Mine just shows the grey scale line but I don’t know what to push afterwords to recognize the PS2
Component cables will work great. Just change the input on the OSSC for it to recognize it. You might want to check in the PS2's settings that it's set for component as well.
Nice video, Bob Deinterlace
Great vid, I don’t own a pc or laptop, can I still get good use out the ossc by not owning a computer?
Sure, you can use it as-is and it's great. You can even use the remote to dial in the custom profiles. It'll take a bit longer than with a PC, but you can save when you're done and it'll be exactly the same.
Great video. Appreciate the information.
Bob, what's the difference at a basic level with an OSSC and the HDMI mods for consoles with selectable output res?
At a basic level, there is no difference. My suggestion is usually this: Do you have MANY consoles that only output analog video that you want to use on a flat-panel?: Get a scaler.
Do you only have one or two? And if so, are there good HDMI mods available? If yes to both, do that, as it's cheaper and easier overall.
So, for me, it's more of an overall, big picture issue.
Hello my friend, your vídeo and the way that you explain are so great! Thank you so much! I have one doubt, I’ve imported the settings for N64, and other settings that I got in youtube, but in general the image turn so sharped and in my HDTV is not working so good. I would like to set a image less sharped. Could you please help me where topi exactly I need to change?
I'm having problems with my 1.6 OSSC, I did the firmware update and have succesfully created profiles for my SNES and Wii, but I can only get a black and white output. I'm using RCA output for both consoles, I have my yellow cable plugged on the green input on the back of the OSSC and the white and red cables connected to a 3.5mm jack converter.... Any idea on why it's only outputting black and white?.... And how I may get color?
I wish i understood it all. I have a Pal PS2 @576i i can used bob deinterlacing on it to convert it to 576p? Using freemcboot i can use the OPL loader and set most games to play in 576p..Whilst using component cables which scenario gives me the better picture? I don't think my TV handles signals between 720 and 1080p. If I set my consoles to 480i and line triple does that give me a 720p signal..ideally i want the 6th generation consoles looking their best on a flat panel . can the OSSC do this for me better than using the software mods i have on me Wii, PS2 and Xbox. Cheers
Where can I find the best settings for the PS2? I only found a single video on TH-cam teaching it, but I didn't really like the result, I wanted to test other options
I think the generic setting might be best. The reason is PS2 is mostly 480i and the OSSC only has one deinterlacing option. If you want better deinterlacing, look into the GBS-Control and RetroTINK 5x - I have detailed videos for both on this channel.
Hi, Using a SNES with OSSC. If my 4k flat panel tv frequently looses signal and comes back again by it self, does it mean that the TV isn't compatible with OSSC? Or can it be tweaked through the settings? Thanks
That's a common issue. I'd suggest changing the output resolution to 2x, then 3x, then 4x, etc, to see which works best. SOME TV's don't work with SNES in any output setting, but those are pretty rare...most work at least in 2x mode.
@@RetroRGB thanks for your quick reply. I'll try that but the TV is also new and I'm on the return window. I'm willing to return and do some research to see what's compatible. Any suggestions would definitely help. Thanks again.
If you need to pick a different TV, check out the video by Digital Foundry from earlier this year that tests different TV's. They have good picks from every price range.
@@RetroRGB thank you for all the info both here and on your page, I have some research and decision to make 😎
Congratulations on the video. I wanted to ask you if you tried to connect a Raspberry using RGBPI os4 , because ossc returns me no sync . So I was wondering if I should create a special profile, and what values I need to know to understand how to properly hook the RGB signal, which comes out of the euro scart rgb socket of the RGBPI operating system installed on a Raspberry pi 4.
Thank you
RGB-Pi works great when plugged directly into an RGB monitor, but it always has trouble through scalers and switches. I had to stop using it :(
@@RetroRGB Too bad, for now I have been able to hear the audio of RGBPI os4 by switching from ossc, after updating the firmware to version 0.90. The video still doesn’t. I found the timing configuration file and now I have to figure out if the parameters found on the ossc configurator are the same as those found in the timing.dat file inside RGBPI os4.
Your video was enlightening and now I want to try and see if I can make it work. Because ossc works for me with everything without doing anything, but from what little I’ve seen there are so many parameters to change.
Thanks again for your wonderful work . Congratulations .
Thanks for the kind words. Is it possible to get the audio from the 3.5mm connector of the Pi? You'd have to edit the config file, but that could work.
@@RetroRGB yes RGBPI os4, from the os menu you can also manage audio via 3.5mm jack. What I wanted to say is that after updating to FW 0.90 I was able to receive the audio directly from the rgbpi scart socket, which previously nothing could be heard. I just have to understand the V and H synchronism values it uses and if they vary or are fixed. alternatively understand if it is possible to disable the C sync, which is the problem? now I hear audio but I don't see images, going from the RGBPI scart and not from the audio jack.
@@RetroRGB Finally I found the way to be able to video record the matches and screens of RGBPI, leaving the scart rgb socket at 15khz, passing by an ossc and finally recorded by an avermedia plus 2. Thanks to recalbox’s dual rgb card this was possible
Where do you get the testpattern? Are tgey any 288p testpattern for n64?
I only really find Generic 4:3 useful for Playstation, as you stated, but the other scenario I tend to prefer it is with model 1 Genesis -- it masks some of the vertical lines if re-capping didn't fix the issue.
Hey helpful video thanks!
How do I enable and configure a filter?
I'm using firmware 0.86
Want to get a good picture for my PAL Gamecube
I hooked it up through an original Scart RGB cable by Nintendo, passthrough HDMI switch and connected with an classic leading to my TV
Greetings from Germany
games with the ossc on a 55" oled tv. The ossc It is linked to my ps2 via scart cable. May you suggest me the ossc best configuration? I find the line3x is the best for me but maybe i am wrong..
It's really what looks best to you. The OSSC is zero lag in all modes, so whatever looks best to you is good :)
@@RetroRGB in your opinion, the config may be the same if i play both ps1 and ps2 games on my ps2?
Hello! Could you tell me what is better to buy for the PS2, if I use a component cable. OSSC or some product from RetroTINK?
Thanks in advance!
It's between the OSSC and the RetroTINK 2x Multiformat. My opinion is that you should choose what's best for all your consoles. Check out this post and the corresponding video for more info: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink-2x-m-720p-mode-added.html
@@RetroRGB Thank you!
Will an ossc help smooth out jaggedy ps2 graphics if you go from component to hdmi on a 1080p tv? They drive me crazy on kingdom hearts 2 final mix and gsm cant seem to do much with a regular component input. It makes me miss my old crt >
The best bet for PS2 is the RetroTINK 5x. If you're on a budget, look into making a GBS-Control. I have videos on both right on this channel.
@@RetroRGB Thanks I'll check it out
If Im running a Megadrive through the OSSC and the OSSC is running generic settings do I keep my TV ratio 16:9 or change it to 4:3
I keep my TV at “auto”…but if you have to chose, match the OSSC’s output. So if it’s outputting 1080p, set your TV to 16:9, the the OSSC is adding the black bars to the sides for proper aspect ratio.
@@RetroRGB brilliant buddy my OSSC just arrived yesterday looking for all the advice I can get. I really appreciate that 👍
great video, but how can I adjust the brightness? the picture is a little too dark.
When I try to import profiles my OSSC jsut says "0 slots selected" any idea? I am on Frimware version 0.87
do you know how to get an x68000 to work on an LCD panel with an OSSC?
10:16 im pretty sure it is the right aspect ratio on the default profile, because i think its just running in the snes output aspect ratio of 8:7 instead of what it got stretched to normally(4:3)
How much is the OSSC Pro going to cost? What's the release date? I can't find anything on google. Do they have a backer page. Like it happened with the Mclassic?
www.retrorgb.com/ossc-pro-development-progress.html
@@RetroRGB I have a question. I never bought an OSSC before. Should I wait for the Pro or should I buy the current OSSC?
Great video, thank you!
Thanks for this! When you upload the custom profiles to the OSSC, can you remove the SD card and still have the profiles on the OSSC, or do you need to keep the SD card inside to use those custom profiles?
I think you can take it out, as it should save on the OSSC itself. I always leave mine in though, so I could be wrong.
My Neo Geo AES displays vertical scrolling lines only when connected to OSSC via scart. Is this my console problem?
I have composite cables for my cables. How can I use it for OSSC if it only uses RGB cables?
You'd be better off with a RetroTINK Mini or a RetroTINK Pro: th-cam.com/video/16z_C7-Gom4/w-d-xo.html / www.retrorgb.com/retrotink2x.html