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- Now that the Open Source Scan Converter is a mature and extremely stable product, I wanted to take the time to make a basic how-to video that showed people both the bare minimum it takes to get it working (just plug it in ;p), as well as the next steps for people wanting to squeeze the most performance out of it. I’d recommend this video for beginner to intermediate users, but hopefully even expert users might enjoy seeing a comparison or two!
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00:00 Intro
00:36 Basic Use
02:43 Firmware Update
04:19 Custom Profiles
07:39 Setting Phase
12:36 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I didn't include it here, because I didn't want to confuse anyone...and because 1080p5x won't work on everyone's displays. It's an awesome trick and worth reading about if you decide to use the custom profiles.
any link to adquire?
Damn no profiles for the PS2 :(
The other problem I have is the OSSC is displaying a black screen only (I've got sound). So no image, using an RGB scart adapter (so the tulip cables into the scart adapter).
What can I do, I am out of ideas.
good video. ive had mine for years and you went over some things id never seen before. well done
No svideo
73rd person to like this comment!
Does it actually make a difference having a OSSC?
@@TheDeathOfLucifer Not that much!
I wish people would start calling Bob D. Interlacing by his full name: Sir Robert Daniel Interlacing II.
lol
Omg exactly the video I’ve been looking for. The main reason I’ve held off buying the OSSC... Not wanting to really mess with settings. Every laid out perfectly. You’re the man! Going to purchase one today. Appreciate it.
I thought the same for myself a few days. Thank you for this video
The OSSC has been the BEST addition to my gaming setup! It makes my consoles look beautiful on my 4k OLED LG TV. Zero lag and ultra sharp pixels with the addition of the optional scan lines. If youre on the fence, get one!
Ty, got one!
You got a LG C1? Thanks might consider.
Thank you so much for this, man. I've been needing a video like this to dumb it down for me for so long. You're the best!
Great video! I haven’t been able to use it past 3x on my monitor but had a Chance to connect a Saturn to a 4K tv recently at 5x and was blown away by how good the IQ is even at the stock settings.
The fact this now works great with DOS machines is making its versatility fantastic for its price.
Great video. I upgraded the firmware and imported profiles and couldn't be happier with my new OSSC setup. Awesome.
You are such a retro-warrior ♥ - what an amazing piece of info we have here gentlemens
Although I own an OSSC for over a year now, I just learned something new. Thanks for the video!
Just wanted to thank you for this vid. I've had the OSSC for over a year but you covered some of my knowledge gaps and motivated me to grab an empty sd to update firmware and image the FBX settings on it. I was still adding some manually and it was such a pain. I think your vid will result in me using this device more often, and I'll point people with general questions about the device to watch too.
Nice to see this guide, I recently purchased an OSSC and have many consoles to experiment with when I get time, which is hopefully soon, so good timing for me. Had a quick go with the PS1 which looked good from generic settings and the PSP which was also quite good but the screen size was very small, looking forward to learning a little more to get better results without spending too much time on changing settings.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I just got one second hand off of a friend and have been able to stumble around on it, but your guides are awesome and I'm sure I'll get more out of it now.
Great video! Thanks for letting me know about the OSSC Online Profile Editor.
Thank you for this video - all I wanted to know. Going to buy one rn. Great channel, keep up the good work!
Firebrand has done some amazing work on the profiles, I just wish someone would pickup the mantle for us PAL users!
I know! I want an ossc but no idea which timing files are needed for a PAL SNES
I came here from a link I found randomly. I have no idea about half of what you said, but I have nothing but admiration for your knowledge and willingness to share it.
Thanks very much!
Wow thank you so much for the video. Would love more deep dives into the OSSC settings as a lay-man. I don't know what most of these are, and these explanations are great! Heck I didn't even realize there was a micro SD card slot on the device for updates!
Great video I am waiting for my OSSC to arrive, glued to my shipping tracking updates :D
Much needed tutorial! Thank you for the time and effort put in this!
Awesome video, really helped with setting up my OSSC!
Excellent video. Very surprised that no one has made something as succinct as this until now. I think I may have to finally get one. I just wish finding a capture card that played nicely with it was this simple
just bought one two weeks ago (or so) thanks for this!
Thanks for the video. I’m starting to take a look and this is great intro to it.
Thx for the tutorial. I might add that the first thing I had to setup when I got my OSSC was to setup the remote, since it wasn't working at all out of the box.
Thank you! I have been wanting this video and I didn't even know it!
Fantastic video as always and really informative. I’ve recently purchased an OSSC and I’m quite new to this stuff but your videos help a lot and was a great starting point for research. I have to say the generic mode has just blown me way. Perfect Dark has never looked so good, however I definitely want to fine tune it with the custom profiles. Many thanks for explaining this. From a fan in the UK 🙏 🇬🇧 🤘
Thanks very much for the kind words! And yeah, the generic mode is excellent in most cases.
I finally got my hands on one here in Australia looking forward to it
Finally took long enough for someone to do this lol
Thanks Bob!
did not realize that the OSSC got an On screen display and profiles since I purchased it...
Looks like i'm gonna be updating my firmware now.
Profiles been there since forever. The OSD has been added through a firmware update.
@@PvtHudson Yeah, I just kept using my OSSC thinking firmware updates would be minor stuff and not features I really care about so never paid attention since I bought it. Also, I haven't had a need for profiles until recently (mvs doesn't work without Hsync tolerance changes)
Yes! Been waiting for a video like this.
Thanks for the guide ossc is a great device for old consoles
Thank you for the help you really showed me a lot. Appreciate you
Really good video, i got my OSSC yesterday :)
Thank you. For your work 👨💻. Especially for ossc configuration files
Thank you!!!
Great video! Appreciate all the information. I agree with the Generic 4:3. It's my go to for pretty much all consoles. With the OSSC Pro I really hope there will be support for better scanline options. Not to say the current is bad, but something that looks more like a CRT would be nice. Or maybe even RetroArch style scanline options.
Thanks for this video. If helped me to configure my OSSC.
Oh thank god there's an "easier" way to set phase. I followed the FBX guide from a while ago and it seemed like such a pain, might just pull the trigger on a few flashcarts now
Great video as always!
Great video. Appreciate the information.
Just got TORO box and an OSSC for my dreamcast. HOLY CRAP! it looks so good
TH-cam notified me of this a full day after it was uploaded lol
You've convinced me. I'm saving for a Mistr
Great video as always RGBob 👏😃
Really helpful video. Thank you!
Thanks for this, it clarified something I didn't understand. I thought profiles that weren't customized were just considered blank, not generic, so I've totally avoided generic (unknowingly) up until now. I've always worked off of another profile when adjusting. I've been trying to tweak settings to get a good PS2 image, and FBX had said generic is the way to go. Now I actually know what that means and am excited to give it another go. I stuck with my Framemeister for PS2 as there aren't a ton of resolution switches on PS2 and it worked well.
Great video, thank you!
Very cool video. I hope they add Composite and S-Video to a future OSSC model so that we can have an all-in-one device similar to the XRGB Mini Framemeister.
Appreciate this Video!
If your OSSC is not showing the menu on screen like in the video do the firmware update and it should show up. Mine was not showing the menu on screen and was really inconvenient to do everything off the LCD screen on the OSSC. After the firmware update the menu showed up no problem. Great video!
Thank you for your awesome video!!!
Good video! I don't have an OSSC right now, but I'm sure this video will be good for me to refer to in the future(if I get the OSSC non-Pro version before the OSSC Pro gets released, that is).
Also, unrelated to this video, I know it takes time, resources and money for them to make, refine and test their controllers, I *REALLY* wish Retro Fighters would make an SNES/Super Famicom controller already. Their other controllers already look good and I would *DEFINITELY* buy some of them when I get the chance.
I've been trying to decide between the 2x or an OSSC and was leaning towards the 2x due to the ease of use but it doesn't look like the OSSC is half as complicated as I thought. Thanks for the video!
Thank you!
I am so angry this channel does not get the type of success it deserves ...
LOL, me too! And thank you for watching :)
Hey Bob, great video and incredible timing! I got my OSSC recently. A question I would like to ask you, what could be the right settings to connect the OSSC to a CRT PC Monitor? I already have the Tendak HDMI VGA adapter. Thank you!
great video, my OSSC is coming tomorrow
update: I FREGGING LOVE THIS THING!!!!!!!!!!!
Very informative as usual. Poor Bob may have to do another video after the OSSC Pro comes out. Of course, no release date has been announced and it won't mature for a while....
The "auto" button on flat panel displays locks in the correct phase from analog VGA sources, so its entirely possible to design a product to do it.
Very good video.
Recently my OSSC has gotten the most use with FM Towns PC so I don't have to get a CRT
Great video. Where would you suggest i look for information on ossc setting for PAL consoles? I've got my ntsc genesis and n64 looking great, but my childhood ps1 and ps2 leave a lot to be desired 😓
great video !!!
excelente video muy completo como siempre todo lo que nos traes bob, admeas se agradece mucho los subtitulos al espanol. saludos
Thank you. Sounds like I might need the OSSC. I'm planning on playing on a 32:9 monitor and I need something that will emulate that signal else the monitor adds imput lag.
It could be nice to show about games who changes resolution during gameplay. Overall, that's just another excellent video from RetroRGB Chamnel.
i use my OSSC as a plug and play device and it still looks great. i havent changed any settings
Hey Bob, great video! But I wonder, would you still recommend bob deinterlacing if your name wasn't Bob?
Hello my friend, your vídeo and the way that you explain are so great! Thank you so much! I have one doubt, I’ve imported the settings for N64, and other settings that I got in youtube, but in general the image turn so sharped and in my HDTV is not working so good. I would like to set a image less sharped. Could you please help me where topi exactly I need to change?
Nice video, Bob Deinterlace
Hi bob thanks for the video, if people like me have a new one with a firmware from 2018 and you can't find the firmware update option it's here "Menu > Settings Opt. > Update FIrmware" the options menu have submenus (i just learned).
Any idea when the OSSC PRO coming out? Been waiting for it before I buy anything
We're all waiting with no release date announced. From the shmups forum, marqs latest post from August:
"A second prototype board should be finished soon. Estimates on release date etc. will have to wait until that's on my hands and verified. It's also worth remembering that even if the prototype HW works flawlessly and is ready for production, firmware is still far from the point which I feel comfortable releasing it with"
@@bruceg22000 thanks
@@GFDthatsMe does it have composite
Also got delayed because of COVID
Regarding Custom Profiles -> Improvement to the webpage -> I think the profiles numbers and import json should be closer to eachother so we can do this much faster. Or a lazy solution would be maybe a scroll-to-import-button near the numbers and a scroll-to-numbers close to the import json button.
Excellent video as always Bob thanks for doing this! So is phase going to something that has to change based on your console, capture/output display device or both? Meaning if I change to a different output that each one needs a different phase adjustment?
Good question - Output devices won't affect phase at all. You only need to worry about input changes, such as using a different RGB SCART cable, or using a different console (if you have say, two SNES').
@@RetroRGB thanks for the concise answer as always. So this phase setting could potentially be unique even from two of the same model of console then?
thanks.
Im waiting on ossc pro for ps1, satern, og xbox, ps2, wii.
Cuz the mister does he older systems fine.
Just rocking the framemiester for now.
Man, all this stuff is so complicated. It took me so long to figure out how to get GB Interface to show sharp pixels via my Carby Component. I tried numerous times in the past to dial in the recommended settings inside OSSC menus to no avail, but last night I actually went into the custom profiles site and put them in there, then loaded those settings, I finally got closer... there was still blur on parts of the screen and dialing in some additional settings finally got it fixed. There seems to be some other interference tho, tiny green pixels popping up around certain colors, but its way less noticeable. Plus the new UI on OSSC's latest firmware is such a game changer.
I need this. Getting this thing to make a picture from my RGB modded N64 that I think actually looks better than stock has been impossible for me.
I would really love to see line doubling on hdmi sources with the ossc pro.
I only really find Generic 4:3 useful for Playstation, as you stated, but the other scenario I tend to prefer it is with model 1 Genesis -- it masks some of the vertical lines if re-capping didn't fix the issue.
Hey Bob. Perhaps you didn’t know but the OSSC supports 1600x1200/1920x1200 output for Line5X. This means you’ll get fullscreen support without cropping on a display if it supports higher than 1920x1080 resolutions. With optimized timings dialed it this gives a razor sharp image. I love to combine it with 100% normal scanlines. Looks insane on 240p content on my old LG C6 OLED. You do have to increase the backlight or OLED light on your display. Running these settings on my Sony W900 gives the best of both worlds. CRT motion with integer scaling.
Yeah, those are all cool features. This was supposed to be a beginner video though, so I didn't want to focus on anything that might be confusing to newcomers though. Also, I usually really like the cropping of 1080p 5x :)
Can we use these .86 files from Firebrand on the new .88 firmware? Thank you for the great video!!!
Hey helpful video thanks!
How do I enable and configure a filter?
I'm using firmware 0.86
Want to get a good picture for my PAL Gamecube
I hooked it up through an original Scart RGB cable by Nintendo, passthrough HDMI switch and connected with an classic leading to my TV
Greetings from Germany
Does the OSSC Pro have a profile editor site too like the regular one ?
There's a 240p test suite for the ps1 lurking on GitHub somewhere. I loaded onto my psio but I've heard that people have also burned it to cd. It's not on the main 240p site for some reason.
hi Bob and a big thanks you for this video. I thought phase was already set up in FB's profiles.... I understand it's not? and finally what is phase? thanks so much
If you had to pick a between the OSSC and the Retrotink multiformat specifically for PS2 and Wii use, which would you go for? I hate tinkering around with settings, but also want flexibility. I thought about getting the retrotink multiformat for the PS2 and Wii and then also getting a Retrotink mini for 2D consoles (mainly SNES), but the OSSC would be cheaper than buying two separate products. Your thoughts when you get a chance?
I've been a proud owner of an OSSC since spring of this year, but even I need to yield to the fact that it's time consuming and not at all easy to customize video settings on it. I've spent hours tinkering with settings on the online profile editor the first few days after I got my OSSC and it's even more time consuming when you throw a Koryuu into the mix because most people haven't documented any good setting to use with S-Video. Not that I blame them though, using S-Video on the OSSC is a pretty niche choice since it requires a transcoder like the Koryuu to even be compatible. I just happen to be one of those few people who prefer to not use scart cables since they add another level of complexity.
I have to honest, when it comes to 480i I actually prefer the OSSC to just pass it through as an analog to digital conversion only. Bob-deinterlacing is really distracting with the "bobing" motions and often makes menus look weird. Not knocking the OSSC, just a personal preference. I have a Crestron HD scaler partnered to my OSSC since my TV's don't treat certain OSSC modes too well and its really great at deinterlacing 480i. I don't have hard numbers to show, but the input lag feels very minimal so long as the signal is digital and not analog. My TV's are pretty good for being flatscreens so not much latency is added from them either.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Just a small question, if a have a console connected ussing svideo or vga, the rca cables for the sound will be connected to the ossc or directly to the monitor? Thanks in advance!
It doesn't matter - The OSSC doesn't add any lag, so you don't need to worry about audio sync. Good question though!
I've had the OSSC for about a week now and honestly love creating optimal timings (I use PAL hardware so their aren't already purpose built profiles out there). It's only a pain for the first day or so of trying to get your head round the concepts and then it's fairly easy to feel around and try different things.
I don't have anything that can run test patterns but one thing I've found that helps get the h.samplerate and phase set is cranking the sharpness up on my monitor and to enable it's 'Super Resolution' (basically very strong sharpening). I then turn off the two LPFs in 'Video in proc' and 'sync opt.' This makes the noise very apparent and pretty easy to dial in to a clear image.
I hope I can get one of these, it doesn't seem to ever be in stock. It says it's coming back in this month.
great video, but how can I adjust the brightness? the picture is a little too dark.
Looking at getting one. What's the audio input cable I need? Looks like it's a converter to 3.5 jack?
I'm guessing the on screen display comes with the upgraded firmware? I never upgraded my firmware and I don't have OSD from the OSSC.
Great vid, I don’t own a pc or laptop, can I still get good use out the ossc by not owning a computer?
Sure, you can use it as-is and it's great. You can even use the remote to dial in the custom profiles. It'll take a bit longer than with a PC, but you can save when you're done and it'll be exactly the same.
Thanks for this! When you upload the custom profiles to the OSSC, can you remove the SD card and still have the profiles on the OSSC, or do you need to keep the SD card inside to use those custom profiles?
I think you can take it out, as it should save on the OSSC itself. I always leave mine in though, so I could be wrong.
Surprised you didn't mention turning on “Allow upsample2x” when linedoubling 480p, it's a great feature. Unless I missed it being mentioned, great video either way.
You missed it. It's right at the beginning when I show Xbox.
@@RetroRGB ah sorry about that. Thanks for letting me know.
I've been using Firebrandx's (thank you for all of your amazing work) profiles for awhile and they're awesome. Setting phase isn't bad at all, the only problem I have is once you do you can't unsee the perfection. Which leads me to my biggest problem and that's setting phase on the Saturn please please please..someone make a test suite for the Saturn!! I am so crazy, I've almost purchased that JVC vcd add-on so I could use the photo cd function to finally set phase properly, there's got to be a better way!
Many Xbox games that run at 480p have very thin black pillar box bars baked into the signal. If I'm going for the aspect ratio I'd see on a 4:3 CRT, do I set timings so the image itself is stretched to 4:3 and thus cutting off the black bars, or resize everything including the black bars to 4:3?
Thanks Bob. Good video for Dummies.
My TV hates my Dreamcast with VGA in 2x @ 960p and is blurry and have to use past through but still looks great to me. Hopefully they have a update puts 960p in 1080p window
What did you use to connect your Genesis model 3? And could (if it has a converter to the model 1) you share where you got the cords?
I have all that on the website :) Here you go: www.retrorgb.com/genesisrgbcables.html
www.retrorgb.com/genesis3.html