Is this the best alternative to the Mazda Atenza? Review of the 2015 Subaru Legacy B4
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00:00 Intro
01:40 history
04:46 Engine
08:06 Side profile/boot space
11:59 Interior
16:59 Review with the boys
26:54 Value for money - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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What an awesome video...this is a car that I admire, its mature looks & design, its symmetrical all wheel drive, it's interior space, it's safety features and its Naturally aspirated(NA) engine (No turbo's for me); it's just a car that works, but that's the thing..."when it works", and it is for this reason that I'd let it remain just that, a car that I admire not one that I will want to own. The Mazda on the other hand, it's simple, I won't touch a diesel turbo especially in Kenya.
Between the two vehicles, which one would I rather have...well none...what I'd own is a very clean unit of a Mark X.
The Subaru is a good car but:
- When they say Subaru's are well built vehicle, there's a price that comes with that, and that price is, "the Cost of genuine Subaru Spare parts." Especially when you said that it shares the same front end with a Subaru Outback (a good vehicle) but the parts...Woi!...EXPENSIVE is an understatement
(As an example, should a CV joint go bad (which they do eventually) or the rubber boot tears and spills all the grease from the CV joint while at the same time allowing contaminants in, which will lead to the eventual failure of the CV joint and you'll need to replace the whole thing, don't be surprised if it costs you in excess of Ksh 75,000/= to get a whole single unit with its components, genuine Subaru drive shaft, now with the All wheel drive system, there are 4 of them.)
- The Subaru Eye sight system is a very decent safety feature, but should anything happen to your windscreen, getting a genuine Subaru windscreen compatible with the Eye sight system will dig a hole in your bank account.
- The Subaru's have been known to suffer from failed steering rack and CVT gearbox (manufacturers design), should either of the two go bad...all the best.
- Because of the body's well build design, it's all wheel drive system, its engine and safety features, it ends up being a heavier than normal vehicle compared to its competitors, and with the state of the roads in Kenya, don't be too surprised to be replacing some components like Bushes more often (of course depending on how you use the vehicle), Brake pads, Brake discs etc and these parts...well i don't have to explain the cost of genuine ones.
NB: This is not a post to discourage people from owning a Subaru, Subaru's are very well built vehicles and very sturdy on the roads, making them very good vehicles to be used in the city, long-road trips and even when you go off-road to an extent...they just work, and are very good at it. But to keep it that way, also be ready for what it comes to maintain them. You do that and I doubt if you'll find a reason to complain about that vehicle.
-Most people get into Subaru ownership without knowing what it really takes, that buying it is only the first step, the journey and how it will end will mainly depend on how you maintain it, that will either make you absolutely hate it or absolutely love it at the end of the journey/day.
The point is to know what you are getting into, if you decide to own one of these lovely vehicles.
Good day.
Wah bro! Hi ni research na nusu🙏🙏🙏👍
All these are based on the myths and misconceptions of the 90s regarding subarus. The parts that are expensive are only for the performance models. Eyesight and windscreen compatibility has never been an issue. Subarus have come to be more reliable these days and replacing parts very often is just a misconception. However, it is a heavy car and thus slow acceleration (For NA)
and more fuel consumption.
Honest opinions bt still i loves the 2011 and 2012 sh they are yje best subaru forestets for me, because i know nothing about sjg bt so far compared to tiguan cvr xtrail or cx5 for me its the sh especially th s-edition
@@samueln3630 Some things can be googled...This video can explain more:
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@@ellykipruto5622 They are genuinely good cars.
That introduction is lit bro, waaah!!! Moto, I like your shows kabisaa, I can count on you for car purchasing decisions
Your reviews have gotten better, I've actually enjoyed watching. Am a Subaru fan 10/10, but I think the Atenza has better aesthetics and the interior is more appealing. This Subaru is so simple though.
I love your reviews I have learned alot. I was waiting for this review because I was planning to buy this vehicle. Now I'll go for it
Hello Fred, perhaps I'm at this exact spot you were in 3 months ago. Just to ask, how are you finding your car, if you did go ahead and make a purchase? How is the performance of the CVT option? Is it something worth going for? Thanks!
Well done. Liked the review..actually loved.
One of my favorite Subaru models that I would love to own one day.
Most practical Car Reviewer so far in Ke East Africa .....KUDOS
Good review Erick with a CK. Now this is the car I will own.
Aje aje Erico ,again content is amazing
Alafu si you do for us a drum swap to disc episode, tuta appreciate especially sisi watu wa ma 90's jdm.
Kama kuna wengine ebu pepeta hi ask
As someone who admires both the Subaru Legacy B4 and the Atenza, this video felt more like an Atenza dis-track than an objective review. For the sake of comparison here are a few facts: Atenza sedan boot space: 484 Ltrs, Legacy: 425 Ltrs. Atenza horsepower: 175, Legacy horsepower: 175. Atenza torque: 420Nm, Legacy torque: 236Nm. The Atenza also has a better sound system, and better looks. Finally, value for money:2015 Atenza is approx 1.6M KES, 2015 Legacy: 2.6M. For me the Legacy beats the Atenza on the AWD system, ground clearance (which can be easily fixed), and NVH score. IMO, these don't justify a 1M price difference. PS: Quoting boot space in actual figures is more informative and accurate than bundling in humans. Do better next time.
We are sorry japanese car manufucturer what is your company called,
@@kngberry do not post such uncouth answers when you are not posting detailed info to rival his answer. he has given real metric measures which is something one should look for when checking car reviews or interested in buying one especially the boot space, fitting an individual inside cannot give concrete evidence that the boot space is large on face value.
Hapo kwa Nms piga research
Here is a proper comparison apples to apples, where as Gitonga is right in some aspects he is sooo wrong in many i.e the price of this car is 2M compared to 2015 Mazda Atenza petrol which is priced at 2M or slightly higher www.thecarconnection.com/car-compare-results/mazda_mazda6_2015-vs-subaru_legacy_2015
Hapo kwa price ni kama uliquote price ya axela not atenza.
The 4th Generation BP/BL remains the best looking legacy so far. Also, as a Subaru diehard and legacy owner, I think, the Atenza looks better and doesn't have a CVT. I'd choose the Atenza petrol.
Cars like lover's are to each one's taste.
Agreed, the BP/BL esp the turbo models look very good. The atenza has more of a sporty look, the legacy is a bit more conservative
I still have the BP GT model ... Not letting it go anytime soon ...even did a conversion to manual... Very practical car indeed
@@neroetal how is it chief I plan on getting one veery soon, sooner than a month
If this had an option of MT, would go for it. If not, then the option is Atenza. CVTs are pathetic when it comes driving experience
The cartoon appearing on recent episodes, I highly suspect it's Mbugua's Idea😂😂
Another difference between this and Mazda is that this shape will remain relevant for a long time, unlike the Atenza whose good looks will be outshined sooner
Thanks for helping me decide between the two.
You welcome and thank you for watching
Good review as always. So kwa machache ni nyama ya Levorg 😂
Can you do a video on landcruiser tour van conversion and possibly the costs involved..
You guys should look for a less-busier road to do the 0-100 test... for your own safety.
Erick can you do review on 2017double cabin please
hey.good review...I dint hear you talk about fuel consumption. How many kilometers to the liter
Erick with CK can one change the gearbox to an automatic version of it?
Great content 👍 Does it require an aftermarket transmission oil cooler
Not this one, you good to go from the set go
hey can you please do a review on subaru impreza wrx s4 2015 model and can you recommend on a first time car buyer?
Erick. The Atenza's interior design beats the legacy's design hands down
You didn't mention the mark x , how do you feel about it.
This car is on point.
Wokabi kuna zenye ziko na manual gearbox
Hao watu wako back seat hatuwaskii!! video safi kama kawa
Apart from this carnversations series..bro you should be a news presenter
Good car. My dream car Subaru is the Outback. Tall and rugged
Great I need some advice on the same
Kindly review the 2005 L3 Atenza
Maybe next thing be telling us the most genuine and affordable car yards to buy these cars.
Still waiting for the legacy bm9/ bmm review
In the next review please bring us a toyota fielder
Awesome... please try to be using luggage as well, than the human aspect, I believe you would get to know the actual capacity of luggage it can carry i.e. any boot etc.would accommodate, thank you, grate show
Well noted
Mbugua is the PSI unit.Ata luggage ikitumiwa lazima Mbugua awekwe for reference and authenticity 😃
kindly review subaru forester SG5
My love for Subaru's 😊
You can get a professional timing gear for the speed tests
You change your cvt fluid at 70k kms as per the manual not 40 as you've stated.
Great review, just watching this now. What's the fuel economy like ? For mixed driving that is.
You must also try my car Volvo850 t5 I've seen your s40 on the last videos
22:30 shades 😃😃 it was 350hp vs 210hp
Atenza any day and twice on a sunday.
How many kilometers to the liter? HP na Torque pia. And can I get one with an automatic transmission other than the CVT?
Still prefer the 2008 bl5 turbo/NA manual 2l with half door.
Would you compare this to a 2012 E240 Mercedes?
Ona vile hao maboyz wamekaa vizuri hapo nyuma? Gari safi hii.
These car is wow,I love it more than atenza
I had thought of this car before going for Toyota rush
I WATCHED THIS ALLURING EPISODE ON 27/08/2022
I would definitely by this Subaru any day
I love both Mazda & Subaru. For that money I would get the Mazda
With the love for both I think it boils down to preference
Thanks for this. I think my mind is made up now.
You welcome and thank you for watching
You didnt comment on fuel consumption comparison in depth,
Also be telling us the market price sir
Subaru b4,toyota crown athlete and toyota mark X,which one should i get? Citing reasons please advise
Crown is the epitome of luxury... The two are not even comparable to it
I love Subarus🔥🔥🔥
This basically shows how much value for money the skyline is esp the 2.5 and 3.5
They don't have gearbox issues, especially the cvt ones?
I would go for Mazda Atenza considering the fact that is cheaper than the subaru and the fuel economy is affordable unlike the subaru..Atenza is a performance car and the aggressive look is insane .Considering it is a 7 speed transmission and the sound quality Bose speakers for the finest music .The subaru might have won over the Atenza on the all wheel drive and speed . Also it might have a higher power than the Atenza but that doesnt justify the higher price and higher cost of maintainance of the subaru. The Atenza equiped with the kodo design language and the classic interior is undisputable.Atenza all the way....For better clarification watch the mazda Atenza review by Wokabi in carnversation
As for me ...Atenza is the game changer ....
Atenza it is!. Wokabi can be biased sometimes!. With excellent reviews though!..
I LIKE A CAR THAT SHOUTS, THE ONE YOUR CALLING IMMATURE SO AM STILL GOOD FOR THE MAZDAS😉
For a non turbo 13.03 is not bad
Nice review.My Levorg performance seems way better coz of the 1.6 DIT engine. Safety features are great.
The lineartronic CVT is reliable though gives a monotonous ride,something to accept with time
I'll go for a 2.5l petrol Mazda Atenza/6 anyday
Equally a fantastic machine
Oolah..I've seen you guys there you have so many subaru..do you have the industrial for subaru there..?
1. Great content ever since you got 100K subs. Good job.
2. Camera work still needs work. we need to see what you are talking about for example the cruise control section.
3. Graphics: Please work on them. the editor anatuangusha kidogo.
Thank you for the input, comments well received we shall keep on improving and becoming better
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I have a simple request; I know you receive so many of them but would you mind reviewing the Toyota Fortuner new model?
It was nyamwad , atiii what ,i see you 🤭🙂😂😂😂
I always watch u but ii video iko kiburi sana kuhusu mazda atenza
I will go for the Subaru 10times✌️✌️✌️✌️💯
I think it's better...more practical.
I still cry for the Subaru Legacy Wagon 😅... That shape
The old good days of Subaru
Is it available on a station wagon?
I believe there is a station wagon version.
Wats the price
I prefer the Subaru 💪💪
Erick with a CK jambo
Poa sana bro..is vipi?
@@CARNVERSATIONS you didn't compare prices in kenyan market
this car is super cool.. mine is exactly the same.. apart from the rims and leather seats
Is it a really good car and how do you deal with the said CVT issues?
Might be an first time owner soon so would love to hear your perspective
Those guys stuffed in that boot can reach yurop
Kama sio dual exhaust, I can't touch.
Wokabi akisemanga wengine hawaezi argue😂😂
This has to be the only review on your channel that i completely disagree with...atenza is much more premium spec for spec, only aspect the subaru triumphs is symmetrical awd and eyesight for safety...otherwise its a slow and lethargic car you have to work the socks out that engine to get anything out of it and almost every competitor is faster and more fuel efficient
You have a point my brother, having driven both in all honesty the legacy has a bit more over the Atenza but they are both equally awesome cars
My only problem with Subaru cars is fuel consumption.Only that.Compare with the very economical Mazdas fuel consumption.
Modern subaru are fuel efficient especially from 2016
@@moejaytvthetopten1608 subaru 2016 is not common in kenyan market as it make higher in price during shipping
@@thomasondu207 shipping doesn't make them expensive it's the tax system
Way better than Atenza 🔥🔥
the boot space is uweh!
What is its fuel consumption (Km/L)
It can achieve upto 14.5km/l depending on your driving habbits. A good improvement compared to the previous generations
@@moejaytvthetopten1608 wow thanks
Mazda Atenzas zilikuwa tu zimetulia hazijasumbua mtu :) ....... Wokabi bana
🤣🤣🤣
Wokabi..you are shifting na ni CVT? Wewe ni mwongo
Features of the car
Erick subaru exiga and crosover7
Great content. I love both cars, but the Atenza is simpler. Why not review both cars side to side?
Alafu the camera and scenery bana
Ambieni mbugua arudishe nywele😂😂
Barber wa Mbugua na Baba wanaoverwork
😂mnatetea hiyo gari sana. 13 seconds is slow
It is what it is...
Ama io boot space ndo inafanya makarao wapende izi gari😂
Mbugua analoose weight buana😂
The only problem in this car is fuel, consumption ist abit high
Really kanakunywa Sana?
I see a fLassallian alumni making it
You know to irk me, how's it possible to compare a Subaru to a maazdaa how!?? Wewe wacha! Subaru are superior built machines ...
2.5 petrol atenza anyday.
What makes it better compared to this?
Am bigger than your nganga and i think i can also fit
You cannot compare atenza with subaru b4. Its way above the mazdas league
says who?
Haha Atenza is way better
With a Cvt?😀Mazda is so far ahead. This one should be compared to premio🤣🤣
True the wrx 2015 is 🔥🔥
@@third-worldsociety5540 RX-8 entered the chat😈
Usirudie hii mchezo... don't compare Atenza to subru ever again...tutakupiga ngoto
7...juu ya 0-100..ISA noo
Mazda still wins