As an owner of one since 5 months I agree that it is at a sweet spot between performance, practicality, looks, premium quality and price 👌 Even without air suspension (I have Performance version). The ride is engaging but definatly more towards comfort than racing corners. I chose between Porsche taycan Cross/sport turismo (before the new facelift) and zeeker 001. Porsche ahaid in drivning fun/feel and looks (barely), but I think the 001 has more premium and modern and spacious interior, more practical, better tech, and similar performance. All in all at around 50-60 000 euro lower price. Quite a hard deal to resist I think 😊 I think comparing it to model 3 as some do is abit strange since 001 is a bigger car. Against model s seems more logical.
I think it is more comparable to the Taycan Cross, more like a sport shooting brake, than the Model S which is a large sedan. I like so much this car, it is so modern and enjoyable. It is a much better design language than the newer models, like the 007, in my opinion. Probably the best model from the current Geely line brands.
What a great review! Really appreciate a car review from a tall driver. There is not enough of that info out there, so I'm excited to have found your channel. Zeekr is coming to Malaysia soon and I'm hoping they'll eventually bring the 001 if they ever produce it in RHD. The shooting brake form is perfection. Thanks again!
Apologies for adding another comment.....but thinking about it....on this budget level things are quite clear. If you like Sporty....Zeekr, if you like SUV, Xpeng G9 or NIO EL6...best possible options, + best value for money
Wheels are too larger for the overall design,... Clearly the design was made with smaller wheels in mind. Probably PR got the larger wheels approved as a selling point never mind how ugly it looks with the oversized wheels...
I love the look of the wheel size. My personal opinion is that cars can never have too big wheels, but too small looks very bad, like MG4 or MG ZS. Not talking about the rims but the wheels as such.
Had this for 4 days, the range 750km was in reality 500km on highway 120-130km/h, very nice to drive ..... not at the high level of autonomy driving assistance as eg. Li Auto. Hope they get there and enable it also in Europe. Hope also Zeeker 001 FR will get to Europe as well as their gorgeous MPV 009!
I do not like the delay until regen kicks in. Xpeng G6 also had it during my test drive. They should either remove the delay or let costomer choose in settings.
Great review! As always! Thank you for sharing your thoughts about Seal, Han and Zeekr. I'm happy that you agreed with me on that 😀 It's a 1M sek car that you get cheaper. Can't wait for the following Zeekr video!
Brillant video, Zeekr 001 has been my personal favorit since day1 i saw it coming out in China, but personally it comes down to price/performance for my daily life, their prices are approximately around 500000ish dkr, if i had that extra 120000 i would have waited for them to hit the danish market, but i have turned instead to a Xpeng G6, which is ticking off most of my choices...still waiting on delivery there though sigh. The Blue interior looks awesome, but id choose the black one instead for practicallity as you mentioned.
Thank you! It's really two different price and size classes and 001 should be compared more to G9. But I think you went for a great choice with the G6!
I like most of the design except the front headlights, same as on the Lynk and CO cars. Warranties seems good on Zeekr, just wish they gave more info when the new updated models arrive here.
From my understanding, the 001 was initially a Lynk and Co vehicle, which was moved to Zeekr. Lynk and Co is still using that design on their cars, hopefully soon they will switch to a different look.
Thanks for the video. Zeekr is finally beeing introduced for sale in Norway in a month or so 😊. In Norway we have a lot of rough asphalt. How did you experience the soundproofing compared to another ev ie Xpeng G9?
You're welcome! Cabin noise test is coming in the next video in just a couple of days. 🙂 I wonder why they did wait so long for the Norwegian introduction
I tested the privilege model in Oslo. Great car, but they are selling the old model as also shown in this video. The new model was released in China in April. Do not buy this one. The newer model is faster, has better interior + other improvements to cater to the Nordic market. Price for the top spec is 670.000 nok
Should I buy this one or a Xpeng g9 perf.? I do have a dog. Xpeng seems to have improved their software for driving aids and I seems more efficient, faster charging and more silent... But I do not need all the space although it's always welcome on holidays...
A bit strange as this is the older model In China they already have a refreshed model You can tell the new ones apart because of the lidar lump on the roof I got a chance to see one in person in Shanghai China
Very nice, but why does it have to be so big? If everyone had cars that big you couldn't get out of the car in normal european car park. The Model Y is already stretching it for how big a car I'm comfortable with.
Hi, lock at the new Facelift Mod. 2025, it`s verry , verry nicer, then this car and a great sporty Version is comming - Top Speed 265 km/h and 100-0 in 30m !
I remember asking in a community post earlier if this car has a catch since this looks like way too good of a deal. And after watching your video... Seems like it doesn't have a catch at all? Staying tuned for range and sound tests of course but after watching your coverage it seems amazing. Is it really basically a Polestar 4 but with (arguably) better materials, more tech as standard and slightly bigger for way less money? P.S. from what I can tell the facelift version of the 001 in China does have an extendable thigh support on the front seats. So that would be one more of your gripes with this car fixed when that eventually comes to Europe.
I have driven a 001 privilege from Sweden to Italy, the range is more or less as you expect. With lane-centering cruise control at 130km/h (max speed allowed for centering), I had a constant 350-400km between charges (100-15%).
Looks great, but like with all other chinese EV´s the software is not finished. And then the consumption is really high, that alone is a dealbreaker for me. But I love the design :)
Depends on who will take the hit of the raised tariffs. I guess some brands will take the hit to keep sales. And they are not permanent yet, let's see what happens.
It's 96kWh net vs 82,56 in the BYD. The ZEEKR is a bigger car in every dimension. In reality the difference is bigger. My range test is on the way. Stay tuned.
If you are not a crazy driver, you can buy it. But if you are, I suggest wait for the new version, the new version is an absolutely Accelerating Monsters! 0-100km/h 3.5s, 100-200km/h 5.5s, 0-400m 10.7s😂
In the beginning he was saying that this is a huge car while standing next to it and I thought he is definitely exaggerated a little.....than he told us that he is 6 foot 4. O.K got it:)
I did testdrive the Zeekr 001 and I was underimpressed by the quality of the software (that was in december 2023, so may have improved) and find the colours scheme of the interior a bit odd.the car is far from efficient and the suspension is ok, but not brilliant in my view. It is actually not a bargain and Geely definitely has todo something on the motor set-up (exactly same motor on front and rear is not good for efficiency and also no for driveability...I was really dissappointed driving it).
@bertsteenbergen6729 two good cars. I5 falls a bit short die too inefficient interior space. Good too long and boot small. ID7 is great but for me looks a bit dull and boring both interior and exterior, but a great ride with good efficiency.
I had the opportunity to check out BMW’s “I” (IX1, 2, 3 as well as the IX) lineup in Hong Kong yesterday, for EVs, they really need to develop a dedicated platform to increase interior space. All the IX on the split platform had sport seats (display models) the EV platform IX had flat seats, you sat on and not in them, the rear didn’t have much legroom for me (173 cm) sitting behind myself. I hear the Audi Q6 for China will have a longer wheelbase, will be slightly more spacious than the Q8 etron. From a driving perspective, it seems the Chinese cars will need some suspension tweaks for outside of China use, where we prefer our sporty cars to handle well. One thing I notice is that they make updates pretty fast, not a good thing for owners of older vehicles if those updates can’t be done OTA to make the old vehicles match the new ones, especially when they are also lowering the prices.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I would advise people not to buy it then. The new version has big upgrades for self driving, just wait for that version. It's a great car but how the company treats their customers isn't so great.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Its the third version they have released in China this year and only a few months since they started selling the 2024 version. A lot of people in China are angry after buying the 24 version and then the 25 version coming out with massive self driving improvements and free upgrades just a few months later. 2026 version will probably come out early next year in China, so then they will probably start selling the 2025 version in Europe.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Zeekr 1st Gen 30min 10 to 80% vs. 28min 10-80% in a Volkswagen ID4. If you can‘t even beat VW it’s not „one of the best“ unfortunately. It’s okay‘ish charging.
@geraldh.8047 but that's what the ccs2 400v standard can handle. 001 charges 67kWh at 30 mins vs Id4 54kWh at 28min. So 001 still faster per kWh Next step is 800v..
This is the current European model. It's two different factory lines used for Europe contra China. That's due to different regulations and customer needs.
Have you tested one? Exciting times indeed, the var industry has really changed. It's like when Ericsson and Nokia encountered the iPhone back in 2007..
@@ItsOnlyElectric I have tested several Chinese electric cars before I bought the two I have now, the Mustang mach e and my brand new Tesla model y P, which by the way is the world's best electric car right now. 😁👍🇸🇪
How is the software and how much Asian bling sounds are there while driving. Mechanics i presume are very nice. Too big/heavy og just fine og really nice ? The new batteri looks promising
The software is not perfect but I had very few issues with it. Guess they have been working hard pushing out OTAs. It's a nice car to drive, very comfy but still ok fun to drive.
I'll wait for the updated 800V version
As an owner of one since 5 months I agree that it is at a sweet spot between performance, practicality, looks, premium quality and price 👌 Even without air suspension (I have Performance version).
The ride is engaging but definatly more towards comfort than racing corners.
I chose between Porsche taycan Cross/sport turismo (before the new facelift) and zeeker 001. Porsche ahaid in drivning fun/feel and looks (barely), but I think the 001 has more premium and modern and spacious interior, more practical, better tech, and similar performance. All in all at around 50-60 000 euro lower price.
Quite a hard deal to resist I think 😊
I think comparing it to model 3 as some do is abit strange since 001 is a bigger car. Against model s seems more logical.
Great choice and congratulations to a mighty fine car!
Agree, M3 is a smaller class.
I think it is more comparable to the Taycan Cross, more like a sport shooting brake, than the Model S which is a large sedan. I like so much this car, it is so modern and enjoyable. It is a much better design language than the newer models, like the 007, in my opinion. Probably the best model from the current Geely line brands.
Agree!
I am so jealous. Its a good looking car.
Lotus is Geely brand too
What a great review! Really appreciate a car review from a tall driver. There is not enough of that info out there, so I'm excited to have found your channel. Zeekr is coming to Malaysia soon and I'm hoping they'll eventually bring the 001 if they ever produce it in RHD. The shooting brake form is perfection. Thanks again!
Glad to hear that and to have you onboard! 💪
I hope Malaysia will get it soon.
I drive the Zeekr 001 Privilege in Holland and I agree: it’s a great, well build luxury car that drives amazingly well!
Congratulations to s five car 👍
One of the best EVs out there. Good review
Couldn't agree more!
Man, your reviews are so enjoyable.
🙏 glad you enjoy them!
Apologies for adding another comment.....but thinking about it....on this budget level things are quite clear. If you like Sporty....Zeekr, if you like SUV, Xpeng G9 or NIO EL6...best possible options, + best value for money
You can add as many comments you want mate. The purpose is to have a dialogue. 👍
That's a good conclusion!
The Zeekr 001 looks sporty, no doubts about it. But is really sporty as e.g. BMW in basic version?
Depends on what you mean with sporty.
The Xpeng is a pig to drive, it's so boaty feeling. The Zeekr is much better drive.
@@N911GT2 🤣😂😂
The Zeekr 001 looks much better than the Tesla Model 3 performance.
Agree. Bit should be compared to Model S.
Wheels are too larger for the overall design,... Clearly the design was made with smaller wheels in mind. Probably PR got the larger wheels approved as a selling point never mind how ugly it looks with the oversized wheels...
I love the look of the wheel size. My personal opinion is that cars can never have too big wheels, but too small looks very bad, like MG4 or MG ZS. Not talking about the rims but the wheels as such.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Yep the wheel size is perfect. Small wheels look hideous on cars.
@@ItsOnlyElectric the model S is €30k more
Had this for 4 days, the range 750km was in reality 500km on highway 120-130km/h, very nice to drive ..... not at the high level of autonomy driving assistance as eg. Li Auto. Hope they get there and enable it also in Europe. Hope also Zeeker 001 FR will get to Europe as well as their gorgeous MPV 009!
I do not like the delay until regen kicks in. Xpeng G6 also had it during my test drive. They should either remove the delay or let costomer choose in settings.
Love your channel and reviews, M8 🇳🇿
Dreaming of the Zeekr 001 want it in Australia, we just need a right hand drive model.
Thanks mate! Hope you'll get it soon. It's a great car!
You can order right now in Australia
Cool, when do deliveries start?
@@ItsOnlyElectric end of this year
I saw it as a visual cross between a Porsche and a Jaguar.
Very nice!
Yes, agtee
I think Zeeks is doing great jog, this car looks really great. Can`t wait for your review on Zeekr 7X!
Will get asap
Many thanks for this great video! I guess I'll have to put my Tesla model y on sale, in case Zeekr brings the new model 001 (2025) to Europe.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
That’s an absolutely stunning car… I love it!!!
is FR version will be available in your market?
Not yet.. hopefully will be in the future.
Great review! As always! Thank you for sharing your thoughts about Seal, Han and Zeekr. I'm happy that you agreed with me on that 😀 It's a 1M sek car that you get cheaper.
Can't wait for the following Zeekr video!
Coming in a couple of days.
Glad you enjoyed it!
i first sawit up close in Xian, beautiful car
Brillant video, Zeekr 001 has been my personal favorit since day1 i saw it coming out in China, but personally it comes down to price/performance for my daily life, their prices are approximately around 500000ish dkr, if i had that extra 120000 i would have waited for them to hit the danish market, but i have turned instead to a Xpeng G6, which is ticking off most of my choices...still waiting on delivery there though sigh.
The Blue interior looks awesome, but id choose the black one instead for practicallity as you mentioned.
Thank you!
It's really two different price and size classes and 001 should be compared more to G9.
But I think you went for a great choice with the G6!
I like most of the design except the front headlights, same as on the Lynk and CO cars.
Warranties seems good on Zeekr, just wish they gave more info when the new updated models arrive here.
From my understanding, the 001 was initially a Lynk and Co vehicle, which was moved to Zeekr. Lynk and Co is still using that design on their cars, hopefully soon they will switch to a different look.
Towing tick. What is the max ground clearance?
Thanks for the video. Zeekr is finally beeing introduced for sale in Norway in a month or so 😊. In Norway we have a lot of rough asphalt. How did you experience the soundproofing compared to another ev ie Xpeng G9?
You're welcome! Cabin noise test is coming in the next video in just a couple of days. 🙂
I wonder why they did wait so long for the Norwegian introduction
Har du hørt noe om pris?
@@kjellagetullien6858780 sek - 25% mva?
I tested the privilege model in Oslo. Great car, but they are selling the old model as also shown in this video. The new model was released in China in April. Do not buy this one. The newer model is faster, has better interior + other improvements to cater to the Nordic market. Price for the top spec is 670.000 nok
@@aljappbert Thanks, nice prizing. Where did u testdrive?
Wow, looks very nice.
Should I buy this one or a Xpeng g9 perf.? I do have a dog. Xpeng seems to have improved their software for driving aids and I seems more efficient, faster charging and more silent... But I do not need all the space although it's always welcome on holidays...
Between those 2, the xpeng is a great deal if you are ok with a SUV.
I must say, great review
Thank you
A bit strange as this is the older model
In China they already have a refreshed model
You can tell the new ones apart because of the lidar lump on the roof
I got a chance to see one in person in Shanghai China
Nice looking car with ok range.
Very nice, but why does it have to be so big? If everyone had cars that big you couldn't get out of the car in normal european car park. The Model Y is already stretching it for how big a car I'm comfortable with.
Unfortunately all car classes grow for every generation
Il ove big cars, much more comfort! If you want a small car buy a 500e
Like the car, looks nice. Would prefer to have the black/bronze interior tho
Yes exactly. Looks better, more practical and included in the price.
You have any favorite color?
@@ItsOnlyElectric I should have a look to the configurator
@@ItsOnlyElectricI would go for the Tech Grey with the black/bronze interior 🙌🏼
Me too, best combo..
Hi, lock at the new Facelift Mod. 2025, it`s verry , verry nicer, then this car and a great sporty Version
is comming - Top Speed 265 km/h and 100-0 in 30m !
Best regards from Germany, Bavaria-BMW and
Porsche-Land but the Chinese come quickley !
Good looking car!!
For sure!
I really don’t need a 4,95 meter car (way too big for me), but this one really makes me greedy 🙂
I have the same issue.. 😂😂
I remember asking in a community post earlier if this car has a catch since this looks like way too good of a deal. And after watching your video... Seems like it doesn't have a catch at all? Staying tuned for range and sound tests of course but after watching your coverage it seems amazing. Is it really basically a Polestar 4 but with (arguably) better materials, more tech as standard and slightly bigger for way less money?
P.S. from what I can tell the facelift version of the 001 in China does have an extendable thigh support on the front seats. So that would be one more of your gripes with this car fixed when that eventually comes to Europe.
It's really a great deal. The only thing holding it back is probably the unknown brand.
I have driven a 001 privilege from Sweden to Italy, the range is more or less as you expect. With lane-centering cruise control at 130km/h (max speed allowed for centering), I had a constant 350-400km between charges (100-15%).
So that's online with my test. Actually pretty good I'm that soeed
Looks great, but like with all other chinese EV´s the software is not finished. And then the consumption is really high, that alone is a dealbreaker for me. But I love the design :)
how about cabin noise, did you measure the dp?
Yes, next video. On the way. 👍
Great Review!
Will be interesting to have a comparison between the both Chinese Cars Zeekr 001 and Nio ET5 (Touring)
All these awesome new cars available in Nordics. None of them available in Switzerland 😢
Sooner or later also in Switzerland
@@ItsOnlyElectric So looking forward to seeing Nio, Xpeng, Zeekr and Co ...
@@ItsOnlyElectricWhat about after the EU tariffs on Chinese cars? Will that not kill these models?
Depends on who will take the hit of the raised tariffs. I guess some brands will take the hit to keep sales. And they are not permanent yet, let's see what happens.
Usta sen bir ara Nio yu da test etmiştin. Bu mu iyi Nio mu?
ET7 ve 001 arasında herhalde 001 biri seçerim. ET7 daha konforlu ve sessiz ama 001 daha çok pratik ve çabuk şarj edilebilir.
Why has the Zeekr 001 only have 585km WLTP with a 100kWh NMC battery whereas the BYD Seal has 570 km WLTP with a 82.56 kWh LFP battery????
It's 96kWh net vs 82,56 in the BYD. The ZEEKR is a bigger car in every dimension. In reality the difference is bigger. My range test is on the way. Stay tuned.
Don't understand why rear seats are always in all brands ...not ventilated ...
Some brands have it. But most don't.
Fun Fact: The Polestar 4 shares the same platform as the Zeekr 001, both companies are Geely-owned
Yes, i think I mention that in the video. Also the Lotus Eletre. Or maybe in my the other 001 video 🤔
@@ItsOnlyElectric No this video, right at the end!
Thanks
In Norway Volvo marketing this car and take all the services etc..
The front part reminds me of the "Fiat Coupé"....😛
Oh noo, that's like the ugliest cars ever made 😂
If you are not a crazy driver, you can buy it. But if you are, I suggest wait for the new version, the new version is an absolutely Accelerating Monsters! 0-100km/h 3.5s, 100-200km/h 5.5s, 0-400m 10.7s😂
In the beginning he was saying that this is a huge car while standing next to it and I thought he is definitely exaggerated a little.....than he told us that he is 6 foot 4. O.K got it:)
Haha!!! Many say that the cars look small next to me. Don't get fooled but the optics. 🙂
Du lär ju testa 001 FR. 💪😎
Så fort det går. 💪
There is a new version with a 140kwh battery and 850km range.
Yes, not in Europe yet
Only in China.
Special order.
I did testdrive the Zeekr 001 and I was underimpressed by the quality of the software (that was in december 2023, so may have improved) and find the colours scheme of the interior a bit odd.the car is far from efficient and the suspension is ok, but not brilliant in my view. It is actually not a bargain and Geely definitely has todo something on the motor set-up (exactly same motor on front and rear is not good for efficiency and also no for driveability...I was really dissappointed driving it).
Which one is your top pick in the segment?
My top pick would be a BMW i5, or even an ID.7, even though on spring coils, it drives great with the adaptive dampers
@bertsteenbergen6729 two good cars. I5 falls a bit short die too inefficient interior space. Good too long and boot small. ID7 is great but for me looks a bit dull and boring both interior and exterior, but a great ride with good efficiency.
I had the opportunity to check out BMW’s “I” (IX1, 2, 3 as well as the IX) lineup in Hong Kong yesterday, for EVs, they really need to develop a dedicated platform to increase interior space. All the IX on the split platform had sport seats (display models) the EV platform IX had flat seats, you sat on and not in them, the rear didn’t have much legroom for me (173 cm) sitting behind myself. I hear the Audi Q6 for China will have a longer wheelbase, will be slightly more spacious than the Q8 etron. From a driving perspective, it seems the Chinese cars will need some suspension tweaks for outside of China use, where we prefer our sporty cars to handle well. One thing I notice is that they make updates pretty fast, not a good thing for owners of older vehicles if those updates can’t be done OTA to make the old vehicles match the new ones, especially when they are also lowering the prices.
If you want a zeekr alike but cheaper, get a Neta S
It's hard outside China I guess.
If it’s not a sedan or a wagon, but has a rear opening hinged up top - we call that a Hatchback !!
3:23 Almost frogish?... Nope, totally frogish.
😂😂
Is this the 2024 or 2025 version? I heard they will be releasing the 2026 version next month.😂
2024. The updated version is only on the Chinese market yet and will not reach Europe for a while. Mosy certainly not this year.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I would advise people not to buy it then. The new version has big upgrades for self driving, just wait for that version. It's a great car but how the company treats their customers isn't so great.
Due to the updated version and it being to close to the European release?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Its the third version they have released in China this year and only a few months since they started selling the 2024 version. A lot of people in China are angry after buying the 24 version and then the 25 version coming out with massive self driving improvements and free upgrades just a few months later. 2026 version will probably come out early next year in China, so then they will probably start selling the 2025 version in Europe.
@ecarpo3479 get people's disappointment. But still they try to offer the best tech available at every point. Very agile
Please don’t say it has „good charging“ when it’s obvious this is the old 400V version with pitifully slow charging for the price.
It's not slow at all. Still one of the best charging 400V cars on the market (Europe). This in not China
@@ItsOnlyElectric Zeekr 1st Gen 30min 10 to 80% vs. 28min 10-80% in a Volkswagen ID4. If you can‘t even beat VW it’s not „one of the best“ unfortunately. It’s okay‘ish charging.
@geraldh.8047 but that's what the ccs2 400v standard can handle. 001 charges 67kWh at 30 mins vs Id4 54kWh at 28min. So 001 still faster per kWh Next step is 800v..
这个是2024款吧，2025 款已经出来了
Not in Europe
Why send you 2024 model to Europe then?
This is the current European model. It's two different factory lines used for Europe contra China. That's due to different regulations and customer needs.
I was interested in this car until I saw the newest version from China. Maybe it will never reach Europe……..
It for sure will but not until the competition forces them to. So I guess not this year..
@@ItsOnlyElectricThe biggest global threat for Zeekr 001 is Xiaomi SU7. Looks sporty and drives sporty by the reviewers.
I think it is way too long for EU.
Like a 5 series or an e-class
@@ItsOnlyElectric had an i4 it was a mess.
@dmpanis because of its size?
@@ItsOnlyElectric size and low ground clearance
Lord God, SEK 850,000 ( winter tires and towbar ) for a car from China, where is the world going??? Wonder what it will be worth in 5 years...😧😧😧
Have you tested one? Exciting times indeed, the var industry has really changed. It's like when Ericsson and Nokia encountered the iPhone back in 2007..
But sadly cars are so expensive today... Most people won't be able to buy one ä.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I have tested several Chinese electric cars before I bought the two I have now, the Mustang mach e and my brand new Tesla model y P, which by the way is the world's best electric car right now. 😁👍🇸🇪
2 nice cars!
@@ItsOnlyElectric 👍👍👍
You could say synthetic leather instead of fake leather
👍 or leatherette
Can somebody explain why we need 15 inches screen in the car ?!😂
It's a great screen, you want it to be smaller?
Absolutely forget it... $$$ no no no.
Simply to expansive. Nobody buys them.
I think it's more about the brand awareness. Maybe too expensive for an unknown brand but not for what you actually get.
Same price as a Tesla Model Y...
@@N911GT2 it’s a no name china brand, price is still too high.
@olesebaole7095 but everybody knows Volvo , Polestar and lotus.
Faux leather , plastic, plastic n more plastic.
How is the software and how much Asian bling sounds are there while driving. Mechanics i presume are very nice. Too big/heavy og just fine og really nice ? The new batteri looks promising
The software is not perfect but I had very few issues with it. Guess they have been working hard pushing out OTAs. It's a nice car to drive, very comfy but still ok fun to drive.