Regarding the headshake you noticed, my GT never showed this behavior, it doesn't wobble at all. What I saw in the video, the front tyre doesn't seem to be the original Avon Cobra Chrome, maybe that's the reason. I use the factory front shock adjustment with the original Avon tyre and, as I mentioned before, never had issues with headshaking.
yeah i have the R3R Black and never had any headshake, stock Avon front tyre also, even at 158mph (in 5th, missed my shift into 6th before having to slow down)
Mine rides superstable too but I had to school myself in the whole suspension matter. It took me a season and noticed the trick is writing everything down and having notes ready when on specific roads but man... Did I come to appreciate this thing afterward!
@@thomasandrewphd.5844 In case of this Rocket 3 I would suspect the front tire as the reason. But I can't say whether this could also apply to a current Honda. In 1982, my Honda CB550 at the time also had the problem, but it was due to the poor chassis.😉 At that time I was able to improve this behavior with a steering damper.
It's nice to see some work on more cruiser type bikes. Everyone tunes sport bikes, but you don't see too many cruiser tuning videos. That wobble is a bit concerning and doesn't seem normal. I do 140 pulls on mine with no noticable wobble, fortunately.
Nice video. It's so nice the explanation and numbers, that I was thinking all time how to change rpm in my Rocket. Have you tested times at a drag race? Many of us are so interested in those numbers... I think that those new numbers make a difference in quarter mile.
in the same condition air pressure temp inlcine wind rider weight position suit asf if stock do et 11,0s than on this flash be around 10,3 sec 👍🏻 terminal sped 123-124 vs 132 -133 mph more less 👌🏻
Never had the head shake on my 2020 GT. Did move the pegs and add the Werks exhaust. The changes you made make sense to me. Top speed should have been put at 180 and a little more power in the gears because there is plenty available. I never put the quick shifter on but everyone says that is a big improvement when accelerating. How do you find a reputable shop to make the same changes? I live in Virginia.
Didn't see that ammo canister on the side first time I watched the video. Love it. How did you mount that? Will definitely be getting your tune after I put in a couple more miles on mine
I have your guys tune and the extra rpm is awesome, I feel like the speed limiter was only moved to about an indicated 158mph though cuz I haven't gotten it to show passed that.. but on a different note, idk if I've just gotten used to it or maybe it's cuz I have the stock bread box exhaust but mine doesn't seem to pull as hard as the video.. guess I should find a dyno and see what numbers mine puts down
Does She have a Name ? My Victory Sport Cruiser , Stage 4 , Kandy Paint , I call her the SWEETNESS ! 112 hp , 118 ftlb of torque , on the dyno , I like being able to change the tune depending on fuel
Very informative, professional video.....well done! I ride a 2021 Rocket 3 GT which I love, but always felt it to ride a little "rough" in the first 3 gears. So I thought I would get a Dyno-tune assessment and possibly tune done. We live in (Southern) Thailand and there are not many places who perform this service, but the one place we could find (about 150km away) advertise as the latest and greatest in Dyno Technology. After sending several emails we received a short reply, telling us that they hadn't done any work on Rockets (fair enough) and then asked if we had the cables and software...????? This left us puzzled, we do have an OBD2 Adaptor, but these are more or less universal fit - my inquiry for further details remains unanswered. Sorry, to bother YOU with this now, but WHAT cables and software would we, as customer, customarily need to supply (to a "professional" Dyno shop) to get the job done......can you enlighten us....? Thank you so very much for your time and troubles
We provide you with everything you need to flash your bike at home. We email you the tuning to load into the handheld. It’s very easy. We do the research on bikes so you don’t have to head to a dyno.
Great job, how that should have come out of factory 😎 Roadster version way more chuckable, peg height adjustable, loved mine 🤙 never had any head shake on the flatter bars, used to bang my limiter with no tail off, full throttle quick shifter made such a huge difference, maybe the Werkes without map to blame. Have you mapped the CB1100?
wonderful video. are the 3 throttle tables attached to the rider modes, or attaches to gear groups (1&2 3&4 5/6)? what is the new rpm limi you set for this bike? 7400? thanks for the feedback
I have a Rocket GT. I suspect the head shaking is caused by the tire’s interaction with the road surface. I haven’t experienced this problem where I live
Is balance, maybe tire pressure, maybe sitting position, maybe tire width, perhaps front suspension not calibrated for his weight? Is a balance situation it varies from bike to bike and person to person.....
@@baetech1982 most likely the suspension hasnt been tuned to him, like he said its first ride/impressions for him so yeah. Man has big balls to make runs like that without adjusting the suspension for him. You can see the death wobble so clearly
Man this looks great! Is there a blanking plate that was used when the backrest was removed? I notice this is the GT version, but without the backrest--I'm looking to do the same. There is a hole in the rear passenger area once you remove that backrest and it looks like it's covered on this bike?
Did that to my GT - had to wait 2 and a half months and the cost was 516 dollars! For two bits of brushed ali. Anyway, the accompanying brackets and bolts dont fit so i glued them in with contact glue and filled the groove flush with black RTV. Looks great but quite a mission...
Under inflated or worn rear tyre can cause head shake a lot of times it comes from the back of the bike. Best stick with original tyres or specific to model. Looks sounds great I want one before Iam too damn old to ride one it will be the perfect weapon in Cambodia where I live to terrify tuk tuks and other odd things on the roads here.😎😎😎😁😁
I've just ordered a rocket 3 storm GT and it seems like triumph have remapped to get similar gains for the 24-25 models.. I wonder what my new "cruiser" .. lol.. would achieve after retuning. I am also interested in the mpg or in my case Litres per 100km after opening this engine up... as a general rule, given the same throttle handling would you say it uses more fuel overall, and could you hazard a guess at how much more fuel that could be??. Love the videos btw
A bigger 3 into 1 header, mid head work, street cams, and a little more compression and this would be maniacal but with stock driveability and reliability. A 250hp cruiser that'll last 300,000 miles, lol the future!
Thought this bike was faster. Guess the weight needs more power to move it. But the off the line and low throttle passing with that TQ has to be crazy. Pretty sure u can get this bike over 200whp with mods
I have a TFC Rocket with titanium valves and standard redline is 7,000, this will work just the same in mine I presume? I’m keen, so I need to buy a handheld device to sync it Blutooth? Does the App work on iPhone? I’m ready to go but need some hand holding on details lol.
I have you guy’s flash on my rocket 3 but it didn’t remove the top speed limiter. Is there a way to get another file from you with the updated flash? Also does shifting that high over redline damage the bike? Running hard I shift mine right at 7k. You mentioned shifting at 7400?
Raised pegs , 1 inch up , 2 inches forward , reverse gear pattern now , 1 up , 4 down , 2003 complete transmission , go big ? Or ride a scooter , 13.2 to 1 compression
I owned 3 of the previous version and they were tanks and I was running over 200hp from Carpenter racing, at that time Jardine made a mean exhaust. This exhaust is such and ugly desing, it doesn't got with the flow of the rear tire
I ran a buddies modified previous model Rocket 3 with 260 rwhp at Bonneville Speed Week in August 2023. The salt was pretty wet so we got 164 mph but the bike had a lot of weave in the first two runs in fact on tne 3rd run the front end weave was accompanied by a rear wheel wobble and chucked me off. th-cam.com/video/9zseiUjGS8U/w-d-xo.html I have went to the drag strip with my Thruxton R and had good luck against 145 rwhp older models and 165 rwhp new models . However, I do think a 165+ rwhp new model properly ridden would beat my 11.678 ET. I won't do roll ons against a Rocket 3 with my Thruxton R because I'd be crushed.😄😄😮
Whatever tire is on the front of that bike needs to go in the trash, immediately. That fork is TERRIFYING to look at, it was absolutely trying its best to get into a tank slapper ☠️☠️☠️
Love that you're having so much fun on this bike. A delight to hear!
I remapped mine too and it's NUTS. Your remap however did raise the redline and remove the limiter. Sounds like the cherry on top! 🥳
Sounds like an aero engine in a bike .....love it !! Too fast for feet forward now though 😮
As always a very professional video from you guys🤝🏼
What a great video. That engine is bigger than most mid size and smaller base model engines.
same size as my cars engine
you need to sort that headshake out , I have the same bike but the R model and mine is smooth and confidence inspiring all the way thru to 275 kmh!
Regarding the headshake you noticed, my GT never showed this behavior, it doesn't wobble at all. What I saw in the video, the front tyre doesn't seem to be the original Avon Cobra Chrome, maybe that's the reason. I use the factory front shock adjustment with the original Avon tyre and, as I mentioned before, never had issues with headshaking.
yeah i have the R3R Black and never had any headshake, stock Avon front tyre also, even at 158mph (in 5th, missed my shift into 6th before having to slow down)
I had a 21 GT. never had any shake like that
Mine rides superstable too but I had to school myself in the whole suspension matter. It took me a season and noticed the trick is writing everything down and having notes ready when on specific roads but man... Did I come to appreciate this thing afterward!
What causes the head shaking. I felt this on my Honda and it freaked me out. It seem to happen t higher speeds
@@thomasandrewphd.5844 In case of this Rocket 3 I would suspect the front tire as the reason. But I can't say whether this could also apply to a current Honda. In 1982, my Honda CB550 at the time also had the problem, but it was due to the poor chassis.😉 At that time I was able to improve this behavior with a steering damper.
It's nice to see some work on more cruiser type bikes. Everyone tunes sport bikes, but you don't see too many cruiser tuning videos. That wobble is a bit concerning and doesn't seem normal. I do 140 pulls on mine with no noticable wobble, fortunately.
TTS Performance, try 370HP th-cam.com/video/fOfkg_MfxXc/w-d-xo.html
I Love the Design ! Nice ! Sweet Ride
Finally the performance this bike should have. Would like to see the difference in 0-60 and quarter mile times on this tuned Rocket.
Nice video. It's so nice the explanation and numbers, that I was thinking all time how to change rpm in my Rocket.
Have you tested times at a drag race? Many of us are so interested in those numbers...
I think that those new numbers make a difference in quarter mile.
in the same condition air pressure temp inlcine wind rider weight position suit asf if stock do et 11,0s than on this flash be around 10,3 sec 👍🏻 terminal sped 123-124 vs 132 -133 mph more less 👌🏻
Never had the head shake on my 2020 GT. Did move the pegs and add the Werks exhaust. The changes you made make sense to me. Top speed should have been put at 180 and a little more power in the gears because there is plenty available. I never put the quick shifter on but everyone says that is a big improvement when accelerating. How do you find a reputable shop to make the same changes? I live in Virginia.
Didn't see that ammo canister on the side first time I watched the video. Love it. How did you mount that? Will definitely be getting your tune after I put in a couple more miles on mine
Alright! This deserves a sub!
BT Moto, I wonder if there is a way to raise the foot pegs another 1" on the rocket 3R for more lean angle advantage? Hmmm....
I have your guys tune and the extra rpm is awesome, I feel like the speed limiter was only moved to about an indicated 158mph though cuz I haven't gotten it to show passed that.. but on a different note, idk if I've just gotten used to it or maybe it's cuz I have the stock bread box exhaust but mine doesn't seem to pull as hard as the video.. guess I should find a dyno and see what numbers mine puts down
leaning into, that is, pushing two handed pressure on handle bars “forward” will calm your wobble
6:55 Sounds like Jake brake. Such a unique bike.
Do you have tuning for the storm model?
And what exhaust do you recommend that performs and sounds good?
Does She have a Name ? My Victory Sport Cruiser , Stage 4 , Kandy Paint , I call her the SWEETNESS ! 112 hp , 118 ftlb of torque , on the dyno , I like being able to change the tune depending on fuel
Very informative, professional video.....well done!
I ride a 2021 Rocket 3 GT which I love, but always felt it to ride a little "rough" in the first 3 gears. So I thought I would get a Dyno-tune assessment and possibly tune done. We live in (Southern) Thailand and there are not many places who perform this service, but the one place we could find (about 150km away) advertise as the latest and greatest in Dyno Technology. After sending several emails we received a short reply, telling us that they hadn't done any work on Rockets (fair enough) and then asked if we had the cables and software...?????
This left us puzzled, we do have an OBD2 Adaptor, but these are more or less universal fit - my inquiry for further details remains unanswered.
Sorry, to bother YOU with this now, but WHAT cables and software would we, as customer, customarily need to supply (to a "professional" Dyno shop) to get the job done......can you enlighten us....?
Thank you so very much for your time and troubles
We provide you with everything you need to flash your bike at home. We email you the tuning to load into the handheld. It’s very easy. We do the research on bikes so you don’t have to head to a dyno.
@@BT_Moto Sounds great......how do I go about getting this?
@@bersitam5421 on our website. www.BT-Moto.com
@@BT_Moto Thanks......already sent message via website
That speed wobble is giving me ptsd from when I had my FZ-07 and the tank slappers it gave me on multiple occasions....😬😳
Great job, how that should have come out of factory 😎 Roadster version way more chuckable, peg height adjustable, loved mine 🤙 never had any head shake on the flatter bars, used to bang my limiter with no tail off, full throttle quick shifter made such a huge difference, maybe the Werkes without map to blame. Have you mapped the CB1100?
As a street maintenance worker... You probably made those maintenance guys day passing them the way you did TWICE 😂
How much of a difference does that aftermarket exhaust make on the performance though?
wonderful video. are the 3 throttle tables attached to the rider modes, or attaches to gear groups (1&2 3&4 5/6)? what is the new rpm limi you set for this bike? 7400? thanks for the feedback
Will this work with the triumph quick shifter? I have a 21 rocket 3 r
I have a Rocket GT. I suspect the head shaking is caused by the tire’s interaction with the road surface. I haven’t experienced this problem where I live
are you able to equip a steering stabilizer on these bikes?
Sounds so Wild
That front shake looks scary
Being a British bike it seems appropriate that it sounds like a WWll Spitfire!
Do you expect you will have a tune for 2025 rockets soon?
I'm glad I don't get that tank slapping on mine. Do you know what the cause is?
Is balance, maybe tire pressure, maybe sitting position, maybe tire width, perhaps front suspension not calibrated for his weight? Is a balance situation it varies from bike to bike and person to person.....
@@baetech1982 most likely the suspension hasnt been tuned to him, like he said its first ride/impressions for him so yeah. Man has big balls to make runs like that without adjusting the suspension for him. You can see the death wobble so clearly
Man this looks great! Is there a blanking plate that was used when the backrest was removed? I notice this is the GT version, but without the backrest--I'm looking to do the same. There is a hole in the rear passenger area once you remove that backrest and it looks like it's covered on this bike?
Did that to my GT - had to wait 2 and a half months and the cost was 516 dollars! For two bits of brushed ali. Anyway, the accompanying brackets and bolts dont fit so i glued them in with contact glue and filled the groove flush with black RTV.
Looks great but quite a mission...
Under inflated or worn rear tyre can cause head shake a lot of times it comes from the back of the bike. Best stick with original tyres or specific to model. Looks sounds great I want one before Iam too damn old to ride one it will be the perfect weapon in Cambodia where I live to terrify tuk tuks and other odd things on the roads here.😎😎😎😁😁
How’s the reliability been?
Violent!!!
What is the "slope" that you are talking about?
Dynoed mine
157 hp
146 rear wheel
Stock
This would make a good experimental aircraft engine!
Great!
Not too sure about that headshake. Did the
dealer ever say anything about it?
What's your mpg like now? I've actually heard tunes like this can improve mpg?
Depends how heavy your hand is after flashing
I've just ordered a rocket 3 storm GT and it seems like triumph have remapped to get similar gains for the 24-25 models.. I wonder what my new "cruiser" .. lol.. would achieve after retuning.
I am also interested in the mpg or in my case Litres per 100km after opening this engine up... as a general rule, given the same throttle handling would you say it uses more fuel overall, and could you hazard a guess at how much more fuel that could be??.
Love the videos btw
What a difference. What this bike really deserves is some high compression postons.
A bigger 3 into 1 header, mid head work, street cams, and a little more compression and this would be maniacal but with stock driveability and reliability.
A 250hp cruiser that'll last 300,000 miles, lol the future!
Is there a tuner that needs to be installed on bike with the aftermarket pipes ? Or was this just tuned on a dyno only after exhuast ?
We mail the tuner to you so you can flash your bike at home. See our website for details. Thanks
Thought this bike was faster. Guess the weight needs more power to move it. But the off the line and low throttle passing with that TQ has to be crazy. Pretty sure u can get this bike over 200whp with mods
I have a TFC Rocket with titanium valves and standard redline is 7,000, this will work just the same in mine I presume? I’m keen, so I need to buy a handheld device to sync it Blutooth? Does the App work on iPhone? I’m ready to go but need some hand holding on details lol.
Email us for details. Sales@BT-Moto.com
I have a 2023 R model. Can you do this to my bike? I'm also in California please get with me and let me know. Wanting to get this done ASAP!
I have you guy’s flash on my rocket 3 but it didn’t remove the top speed limiter. Is there a way to get another file from you with the updated flash? Also does shifting that high over redline damage the bike? Running hard I shift mine right at 7k. You mentioned shifting at 7400?
Email us
@@BT_Moto will do thanks
Do you have a video on the tt660cc
I hit 171 HP and 163 Tq on mine ~2 years ago when I had it flashed. I never removed the speed limiter though, seems foolish.
The limiter is bumped up not removed.
Definitely something wrong with the front end,shouldn't shake like that,other than that the bike is incredible !
Did you discover the reason for the handlebar shaking?
Top Video and Tuning of this big Bike! But can you tell me the name of the app you are using for measuring accelaration (min 5:49) please?
Dragy
Ignition switch at the side of the engine?
that shake is kinda crazy is there a fix for that ?
Can you tune a 2023 speed triple 1200 rs?
They made huge gains on Yamaha VMax’s with exhaust & tuning ,
Re-flashed can it match the Ducati v4 tuned?
Did it go faster than 140?
Anything for TFC?
we call death wobble head shake now?
Raised pegs , 1 inch up , 2 inches forward , reverse gear pattern now , 1 up , 4 down , 2003 complete transmission , go big ? Or ride a scooter , 13.2 to 1 compression
That head shaking is bad a decent steering damper is needed for sure .
what exhaust mods have you done?
That is a ,"competition Werkes" exhaust.
Sounds like a lion..!😎👍🏼
Will this map work on the TFC?
Yes
Hi, have map to tiger gt explorer?
We do
You hurting the engine longevity and life once you removed the redline / extended it?
My Rocket doesn't shake at 100mph. Maybe a prob with yours.
Wheel shaking because of tire pressure
Upgrade the steering damper.shakey!
30% better 60-130. That is *CRAZY*
I wanna hear this thing engine breaking in person LOL
I owned 3 of the previous version and they were tanks and I was running over 200hp from Carpenter racing, at that time Jardine made a mean exhaust. This exhaust is such and ugly desing, it doesn't got with the flow of the rear tire
I ran a buddies modified previous model Rocket 3 with 260 rwhp at Bonneville Speed Week in August 2023. The salt was pretty wet so we got 164 mph but the bike had a lot of weave in the first two runs in fact on tne 3rd run the front end weave was accompanied by a rear wheel wobble and chucked me off.
th-cam.com/video/9zseiUjGS8U/w-d-xo.html
I have went to the drag strip with my Thruxton R and had good luck against 145 rwhp older models and 165 rwhp new models . However, I do think a 165+ rwhp new model properly ridden would beat my 11.678 ET. I won't do roll ons against a Rocket 3 with my Thruxton R because I'd be crushed.😄😄😮
head shake......lets flash.....more head shake...f.. it!
Nice sound almost sounds like a truck 😅
Whatever tire is on the front of that bike needs to go in the trash, immediately. That fork is TERRIFYING to look at, it was absolutely trying its best to get into a tank slapper ☠️☠️☠️
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