The Father is Greater than I
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- Jesus tells us in the Gospel of John chapter 14: "The Father is Greater than I."
This may be a confusing statement, especially in the Gospel of John, since in no other Gospel, it can be argued, does is Jesus divine nature made more clearly.
So, the questions becomes what does Jesus mean in the context of the entire Gospel of John, and what does he mean in the immediate context of this verse?
Listen as Dr. Pitre explains in this video, which is a portion of a video taken from his series, The Mass Readings Explained.
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"And so, what do we say as Catholics to that? How do we interpret the verse?
Well the answer to that’s real simple. We just ignore it. We don’t talk about it. We don’t preach about it. We just pretend like it’s not there. No, okay, that’s wrong. That’s not what we do. The Church canonized the scriptures. This is not a surprise to us, that Jesus says, “The Father is greater than I” in the Gospel of John. The Church gave us the Gospel of John and said this is the word of God. So the question becomes not “what do we do with the verse?” (in the sense of, “do we take it out of the Bible” or “do we ignore it”), the question becomes, “what does it mean? How do we understand this verse in context (in the context of the whole gospel).” And I’m going to come back to the living tradition in just a second, and we’ll look at how this verse was interpreted by St. Augustine, but for now I would just make this one clear point..."
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Dr. Pitre is an amazing theologian. I listen to his Podcast every week, and I always learn something. He is a gift to the Church!
He never has a Bible out of his hand, it is his index. He can just flick to any passage he talks about. It takes me ages to find anything while stalling for time saying, ' its definitely in here somewhere ' 😂. How I would love to be like this man!
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I'm very proud to be a Catholic
@Michael Red Hawk This is just the faith once delivered. Catholicism is not a faith started by any man, but passed on from the apostles. Protestantism and sola scriptura is of man.
@Michael Red Hawk ,,,, be careful sir,,,,,,,, we are not all brothers or sisters to false teachings. They can be, but not of the BODY OF YESHUA JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!! Months ago the Pope said "" JESUS FAILED AT THE CROSS!!! The Pope also said that the Darwin theory cannot be ruled out in the creation along with helping JEHOVAH because ""JEHOVAH could have not done it on HIS OWN!!! Look up on U Tube of Mass being said in the vatican filmed as it is being held of priests singing to Lucifer (SATAN) admonishing him as YESHUA'S FATHER, AND THAT YESHUA JESUS IS SATAN'S SON. THATS JUST RECENTLY. THIS ISN'T SECOND HAND HEARSAY SIR. THIS IS OPEN TO THE CONGREGATION ON SUNDAY'S SERVICES, AND AFTER THE PRIESTS SINGS THIS INTO THE MASS THE CONGREGATION ANSWERS BACK, """AMEN"".
""AMEN""!!!!! MEANING THEY AGREE IN THE FULL SENSE OF WHAT IS BEING SAID, OR THEY BLINDLY AGREE, AS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH RITUALS ARE IN LATIN. BUT!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS BEING SAID ENGLISH INTERPRETATION IS HIGHLIGHTED UNDERNEATH. TO FURTHER WHATS BEING SAID HAVE GOOGLE TRANSLATE THE LATIN WORDS INTO ENGLISH AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.
MANY PEOPLE I TALK TO DOES NOT KNOW THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OWNS A TELESCOPE HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD. HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED AND CAN REACH FAR INTO THE GALAXY. THE NAME OF THIS INSTRUMENT IS "" LUCIFER""!!!! GO FIGURE!!!!
I SENSE YOU ARE A TRUE MAN SEEKING THE TRUTH!!!!! I'M ALREADY CONVINCED THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS SANTANIC. WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN HERE IS PART OF WHY I KNOW THIS.
HERE ARE MY OTHER REASONS FOR IT.
#1..... they promote HOMOSEXUALITY. Both priests, and NUNS commit fornication with the same sexes. YET they take a vow of CELIBACY. WHY??????
#2 ......many in the higher ranks have mistresses.
#3..... many have fathered children and disown their own offspring because of illicit behavior.
#4..... priests having intercourse with nuns and the babies of this union, many are aborted and burried in secret plots.....( by the way, nuns have reported this very thing).
#5....... the molestation and rapes of young boys and girls in their schools and orphanages.
This has been a practice for centuries veiled in deceit and coverups, some even murdered.
Many other reasons, but you get the idea. One last sickening thought is those PRIESTS LEAD the CONGREGATIONS ON SUNDAY'S SERVICES, HANDLE THE BREAD AND WINE WITH THEIR FILTHY HANDS AND ITS ALL IN TBE NSME OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
SIR,,,,, YOU TELL ME!!! IS THIS OF THE GOD YOU SERVE????? I DON'T THINK SO!!!! THEY COME OUT OPENLY AND PROFESS """THEIR GOD""".
MY GOD IS NOT MIXED WITH OTHER gods Of NO VALUE!!! All others are FALSE. MY GOD IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD YAHWEH JEHOVAH, YESHUA JESUS HIS SON, AND THE LEADINGS OF GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT. ALL others ARE IN VAIN. DO YOUR RESEARCE BROTHER, GOD LOVES YOU AND HE WILL NOT LEAVE YOU AS YOU SEARCH FOR TRUTH. BELIEVE!!!!
Patricia Rowe whilst i agree these actions are horrifically depraved and God will return them for what they have done, i don’t think that completely rules out the Catholic Church 100% because it has been around since Christ. I get what u mean though many priests and nuns are not true Christians and God will punish them
@Belinda I hope you know what Christ needs to fulfill and what that tells us about who He really is.
Also, if what you say is true, then Islam is for the simple minded since God's message seems too confusing like you said.
Anyway, Christ died for you because God loves you, Muslim.
So am I!
This was today’s mass reading. I was wondering the meaning of it. It’s amazing that this video just showed up in my feed thanks to God’s providence.
Jesus is a messaged of god, u are tweeting the word to make him god
@@rgamer7396 JWs aren’t Christian
@@rgamer7396 it's your quran said that and we don't believe that, we believe in our Bible.
Or could it be that your phone is listening to you and suggested a video based on what it hears. No providence present here
@@rgamer7396God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost
I'm glad I found you on you tube since I read your book "JESUS and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist" (thanks to our Pastor ),I began to follow you on you tube and I'm so grateful - I watch you all the time. Thank you So much Dr. Brant Pitre you are a Godsent to us,Catholics. May God bless you always.
@@safiaalajmi7859 seriously dude?this video related to your question.. listen with your ear not mouth 😁
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He’s a Muslim using Muslim arguments against Jesus. It’s standard stuff that he gets out of anti Christian books.
Let’s face it, without an open mind and an educated mind and an understanding of Tradition, you can twist words of the NT to make almost any argument that you want.
This is so enlightening! Thank you, Dr. Pitre! I'd never heard it explained this way and so clearly.
The Teaching coming through you Dr Pitre, is beyond words. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing ❤
Amen Brother sir you are absolutely right Jesus is Fully Human and Fully God True Words Amen and Amen God Bless you Ame
You say Jesus was both fully human and fully God? If that were the case--which it's not--how would you explain John 7:16, where Jesus said: "My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me"? So, if the human Jesus were also fully God, why did God lie and say that his message was not his when it really _was_ his?
@Belina What you said is so true on two levels. Consider:
1. If God is a trinity and that the human Jesus is fully God, then Jesus would be a single-person human who is also a three-person deity at the same time.
2. If the human Jesus is fully God, then, the Father of God is greater than God.
And another thing, you are correct by saying the trinity belief is polytheistic. As the trinity doctrine says:
1. "The Father is God." [God #1]
2. "The Son is God." [God #2]
3. "The holy spirit is God." [God #3]
That's three Gods. The trinity teaching is incredibly stupid.
@Belina I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses. And you?
@Belina I believe in the Bible, which says:
1.God is one person, not three. As 1 Cor. 8:6 says: "There is one God, the Father." Jesus added: "I am ascending to my Father and my God."
2. Jesus is not God, but God's Son. As John 20:31 says: "But these are written that you may (come to) believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that through this belief you may have life in his name."
3. Jesus is alive since his resurrection from the dead. As Acts 2:32 says: "God raised Jesus from the dead, and we are all witnesses of this."
4. God has a personal name, which is "Jehovah" [in English]. As Ex. 3:15 says: "God said to Moses: 'And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.'"
@Belinda - what a beautiful name for a Muslim (Belinda). We Catholics believe in the Trinity but you Muslims PRACTICE the Trinity.
Quran starts with the Trinity in Chapter 1 verse 1 of the Quran -
In the Name of Allah, Al Rehman , Al Rahim that's 3 times.
Why 99 Allah has 99 names why not 100 or 98.
( Tip:The age of Jesus 33years x 3 =99)
Your Prophet Muhammad does everything in threes. Why?
Abulution/ Wudu,, (washing before prayers) 3 times ears, nose,forearms, hand,legs, foot.
Greet someone 3 times - Saalam Vale Kuum.
Taking oath 3 times.
Divorce by saying 3 times -Talak, Talak, Talak.
No Allah no Islam,
No Jabreel no Islam,
no Muhammad no Islam.
Namus (later identified as Jabreel squeezed Muhammad 3 times.
Please explain why every thing in Islam is done 3 times. The mike is yours 😉
Another related verse to ponder is 1 Cor 15:28:
"When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one (may be all in all)."
I try never to miss your commentaries because you help me understand scripture/teachings of faith like never before. You are a gift Brandt Pitre! And so are your books. Blessings to you for blessing us with your knowledge.
Amen.Yes.The emphasis IS on his humanity; therfore he says the Father is Greater than Him
Excellent presentation. Thanks for posting!
Your jokes are really good Dr. pitre😆. God bless you and your family
Thanks for your enlightening talk ..it help my faith become stronger as catholic Christian, you are a gift from God to us ..God bless you more snd your family
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This man is a treasure to the Catholic Church.
I am not a Catholic but this was well explained.
God bless you Dr. Pitre. 🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
This is very well explained. Thank you!
Thank you, Dr. Pitre!
Beautifully explained! God bless you!
Thank you bro
Thank you Dr Pitre. We should all be praying for you and your wonderful ministry.
Great expansion of the text Dr Pitre
Wow!!! Am glad I listened 2 this vedio. Thank u Dr Petri 4 clarifying this holy verse. I'v never understood what Jesus meant. God bls u exceedingly & keep u well together wit ua loved ones, thr Jesus Christ, amen. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
An excellent presentation! Thank you.
Other level... Thanks brother
ALLELLUIAH..JESUS IS GOD
Amen. I love you my Lord Jesus
Thank You so much..........
very informative,,,keep up the good work brother..God bless\m/
The most cogent explanation of this that I have heard. Thank you.
*_"Whew, okay...let's do something a little easier, let's go to the Acts of the Apostles and talk about why we can eat crawfish."_*
LOL, brilliant! That closing statement by Dr. Pitre had me spit out my water I was drinking at the moment. Too funny. Perfect juxtaposition and dramatic whiplash...especially coming after the deep and very serious theological analysis on Christ and his eternal relation to the Father. Great sense of timing and humor.
God is so deep and beautiful.
Outstanding explanation. Thank you
very well interpretation sir...now this is not a mysterious to me but finally reveal...from true GOD to true GOD...JOY JISHU.
Great message. Thanks!
Thank you
Thanks!
Thanks dr
Thanks Dr. Pitre for enlightenment on Jesus Divinity
Thanks for enlightening the passage Dr. Brant Pitre. God bless you more.
Great explanation, thank you Dr Pitre & God bless you 🙏🏻✝️
St. Paul explained it for us in his Letter to the Philippians 2:5-7.
Hey, I still want to hear about why/how we can eat crawfish now! LOL.
Me too. Guess I'll have to wait for Mass (except neither the pastor or associate pastor at my parish is from Louisiana, so it's questionable either would make Acts 15 about Cajun food).
😂 😂
Yeah right...try offer up a cray or a pig for Jesus to eat and you'll soon find out...lol.
Good one! So do I! LOL :D
Joking aside though, I believe it was done for practical and health reason. Think about how people, nomads, in the desert, preserving their foods without any refrigeration? Cows are useful to carry stuff, but pigs? They’re fat on 4legs! Not to mention the diseases pigs carry. Even now in developing countries pork is still viewed unsafe - when I grew up we were cautioned not to get pork from random butcher due to the tape worm disease it could carry. Pigs eat anything and it is more expensive to tend.
This explanation makes such perfect sense. Thanks for helping me understand this scripture. 🙏🙏❤️
Julie,
It is absolutely redundant to say that the Father is greater than a human.
The Father is GREATER than any and all humans.
No!
This statement was made by a divine being. So the question is: how can one divine being, be greater than another…?
Can one infinity be greater than another? Mathematicians tells us, YES. Infinity + 1, is greater than infinity.
In theological terms: the Father is unbegotten, He has no beginning, He is divine by nature.
Christ is begotten, he has a beginning (like Eve from Adam), he is divine by the Father’s decree.
And this sense the Father is greater than Jesus; Jesus is greater than Adam; and Adam is greater than Eve.
I Cor 11:3.
Yet, Jesus is fully divine; just as Eve is fully human.
We submit to Jesus as we submit to a Prince or a King; whereas we submit to the Father through a sacrifice - which we offer by invoking the name of Jesus.
This construct eliminates the need for the unbiblical Catholic Trinity.
Biblical Trinity is the unity between the Father and the Son, with the Holy Spirit being Their invisible manifestation to the world.
Thanks for that!
Thank u Dr Petri 4 clarifying this verse. I hav never understood what Jesus meant. God bls u.
Great explanation, God bless you and all who watch this!
This passage of scripture is such a pitfall for those desperate to disprove the divinity of Christ. Again, beautifully explained.
God bless you..
♦ More puzzling is John 20:17, words from the post-resurrection God-Man in His new glorified body that isn't subject to death: “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, *to my God and your God* .”
♦ It's easier to understand pre-resurrection Jesus in His lowly human estate like ours say in Luke 18:19 and Mark 10:18 say "“Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone."
♦ Perhaps when Jesus was stuck on planet earth limited by spatial and temporal boundaries before His Ascension, the Father in Heaven is technically greater due to Jesus "being found in human form He humbled Himself (Phil 2:8)." Jesus In Time versus Jesus Eternal
♦ When The Lord Jesus shows up in the Book of Revelation to John of Patmos, His co-equality with the Father is unquestionable.
NDC JesusMary@ beside because Christ was still in human shape, I thought Christ was teaching about 'HUMBLE' to His followers. Cause to be GOD and 'down' to the earth is 'a very humble action' that something ever happened in whole history. (Sorry, I'm not native speaker, I just gave my opinion)
Excellent teaching
God bless you Sir for a great video for our catholic faith
Tess Chavit , God bless your good looks ,sister.
Thank you.
Awesome explanation...thanks sir
In my believing God is space light covering all his creations and nearest to all and God could not be existed himself if without his space of everlasting .
Amen Sir Godbless!
It’s the same old, same old, same old, all of you trot out but you never get close to the truth. The truth that stares you in the face.
Wonderful teacher
the verse, it is so clear. The reason why you people has many interpretation. Tell us about christian unitarian in 4th century after Jesus? Be honest, when this verse reveal to Jesus? Why so complicated? Confusing, right? I revert to Islam.
There is no disciple named Thomas! The father greater than i -- God doesn't change His nature > become flesh. Anything use become word, meaning transform and change.
The father and i are one -- so the disciples too. In purpose not in unity. WHY YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS CUT THE VERSE???
"the whole is greater than the parts"
Indeed. The Father created the Son; the Son did not create the Father. The Father is the Whole; the Son is One in Unity WITH the Whole....But the Son is not the Whole in Its entirety. The Father is MIND and the Son is Its Thought - given the ability to think WITH the Mind that is God. This is what the first chapter of John is telling us, when understood. Want to know more? Give me a "click." Elijah has returned.....
@@tomrhodes1629 However, the Son is not part of the Father God has no parts
@@tomrhodes1629 What you are saying contradicts the teaching that was given. The Father did not CREATE the Son.
@@tomrhodes1629 The Father did not CREATE the Son who is as eternal as the Father. He was born from the Father but not created, begotten but not made. On the other hand, the human nature of the son was created BUT NOT THE PERSON.
AWESOME
Amen brother
Awesome
Excellent interpretation. Yeshua is guiding you. Love from Ireland.☘💚
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I already prayed for you. Amen.
Each person defers to the other, eternally; not just when, or as, the son takes on human nature. My thoughts. TY
Another example, when Jesus said “why do you call Me good. No one is good but God alone.”But in His Divinity He says, “Before Abraham was, I AM.”
Matthew 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with my own? Is thine eye evil because I am good?
Jesus calls himself good
Well explained
I agree Dr. in your explaination some baptist concentrate more in preaching the word of God less on teaching about God but I have also heard some baptist Minister explaining what you say about Jesus and the Father and the same explanation. But for me in what I've seen and read in the bible Jesus Christ is the Image and Body of God. The God that was formed Isaiah 43:10 - 13 .The Image John 14:9 , 2Cor. 4:6 , Col.1:15 The Body Prov. 8:22-23 ,John 10:30 ,14:10 , 1 Cor.8:6. The Spirit is Lord and God is the Body that manifested in the flesh.
Yes . Understood . Amen
EXCELLENT!!!!!THANKS A MILLION GOR ENLIGHTENING THIS AS OTHER PASSAGES FROM TGE GOSPEL.REGARDS FROM BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA
A great breakdown.
It takes a dishonest or incompetant reader to pitch one part of a Gospel account against another part. Certainly you cannot do it and consider yourself a competant teacher, unless you consider the book self-contradictory.
Dr Brant Pitre one little question.
What the holiness of God.?
Hope one day you see this text and make a video about it.
the key to understanding scripture is taken in the whole of scripture not solely in one or two verses.
Dr. Pitre: Thank you very much and God bless you. You began by saying that here`s what Saint Augustine said about this verse, and since i am Augustinian, can i please ask you to read some of the words which saint Augustine quoted about this exact verse? Like he explained as you did about verses and words which concerns his divinity and others which concerns his humanity... Jesus is the Son of David according to his humanity and Jesus is the Lord of David according to his divinity. Jesus is a descendant of Abraham according to his humanity and Jesus is the God of Abraham according to his divinity ( Before Abraham was I AM ), Jesus is born of Mary according to his humanity and Jesus is the Creator of Mary according to his divinity. The Father is greater than I according to his humanity and I and the Father are one according to his divinity... And many more words... Thank you again and God bless you...
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Maranatha. Come .lord Jesus.
Our Father who art in Heaven hallowed be thy name, Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily Bread . And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours now and forever. Amen
Come Holy Spirit and kindle in us the fire of thy love. Amen
Amen?
I think we shouldnt be afraid to consider God is greater than Jesus. It does not mean Jesus isnt God and He is still our Lord and the creator of all things in heaven and under heaven. But the Son submits to the Father, just like we will be submitting to Jesus perfectly once when we are in our glorious body. At that time we will be equal to Jesus as His friends and brothers yet at the same time Jesus is greater than us because He is also our Lord and savior. And we are His servants
For the Father is greater than I... It is evident, that Christ our Lord speaks here of himself as he is made
man: for as God he is equal to the Father (See Phil. 2.) Any difficulty of understanding the meaning of
these words will vanish, when the relative circumstances of the text here are considered: for Christ being
at this time shortly to suffer death, signified to his apostles his human nature by these very words: for as
God he could not die. And therefore as he was both God & man, it must follow that according to his
humanity he was to die, which the apostles were soon to see & believe, as he expresses, ver. 29. And now
I have told you before it come to pass: that when it shall come to pass, you may believe. - St. Jerome of
Douay-Rheims Bible (345-420).
LetEvrymanOwnRifle&Train Himself WarComing ,if god can't die then he is not god ,I think death and ressurection can only prove the validity of god Jesus says "I can lay my life and take it again" he can do so he is a god ,other gods end up saying that they are immortal they can never die this is a very weakness for such gods and this disprove their validity to become god, up today no any challenge so this proves he is only one true god.
Ivan Chrisantus Also when Thomas calls Jesus: “My Lord and my God” Jesus never corrects him or anything from what i recall
can i show you where paul says that all the teahings he taught of christ is guile? that he fooled all ppl who want to call themselves christians?
Us humans will forever be bodies.
The paradox of the Incarnation. No less mysterious than what is now asked of us to accept in quantum theory.
Amen.
6:55 You mentioned that Christ's human body is not present everywhere. How do you square this with the belief that Christ's human body, blood, and soul (his divinity is omnipresent as the second person of the Holy Trinity) is truly and substantially present in all the tabernacles in the world at the same time in the eucharist? Thank you.
Christ's human body before he died is limited. But His body after resurrection is omnipresent, the proof are his apparitions written in the Bible
How would your God knowing me from million miles away to my home if he is only a man of God ?
Beautiful explanation of Jesus as human being lesser than the Father. However we do have human beings who went up bodily before Jesus - Enoch, Elijah and perhaps Moses (he appeared at the Transfiguration). So are their bodies glorified too like Jesus?
Good clarification. Now I understand. I always wondered why Jesus said this & yet He has revealed 2 us tha He s one God wit th Father & th Holy Spirit. Nb. U said that no human body has ever entered in2 God th Father's realm except that of Jesus.. What about prophet Elijah?
If Jesus is God (or equal to God the father), why did he call our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17?
go find out yourself.
Very enlightening! However, you said you were going to relate what St Augustine had to say about this passage. Well ?
Jesus have a body now, is He still not equal with Father?
There is no separate Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Father was the Son in flesh and He is the Holy Spirit. There's only one and no three.
Ofcos there's a reason he said father is greater. . Its because john 5 26 The Father is the source of life, and he has enabled the Son to be the source of life too.
27 “He has also given the Son authority to pass judgment because he is the Son of Man.[a] 28 Don’t be surprised at what I’ve just said. A time is coming when all the dead will hear his voice
So if God has a anabled the Son to be source of life that means that God is greater than him…….God also gives the son authority…..that means that Jesus did not have before……so God is greater than him
His own space uncreated existence .
Jesus hide his words to those who cant see and still blind...
"El Padre es más grande que yo"
Juan, 14
(Un extracto de The Mass Readings Explained para el 6to domingo de Pascua)
Jesús dice estas palabras en Jn 14, 28c :
"Porque el Padre es más grande que yo”
Bien, ¿alguna vez se ha preguntado qué significa esto?
¿No creíamos que Jesús es Dios? ¿No es Él completamente Divino? ¿No es Dios de Dios, Luz de Luz, Dios Verdadero de Dios Verdadero? Es decir, eso es lo que confesamos en el Credo… Y fundamento principal del cristianismo es la confesión de la filiación divina de Jesucristo, que no es sólo un hombre, sino que es Dios hecho carne.
Especialmente en el Evangelio según San Juan:
"En el principio existía la Palabra y la Palabra estaba con Dios, y la Palabra era Dios."
"Y la Palabra se hizo carne, y puso su Morada entre nosotros,"
Ningún otro Evangelio revela el misterio de la identidad Divina de Jesucristo de manera tan clara como el Evangelio de San Juan; y sin embargo es en el Evangelio de Juan que encontramos a Jesús diciendo “el Padre es más grande que yo.”
A través de los siglos, heréticos, personas que tuvieron ideas erradas de Jesús, se han enganchado a este texto para argumentar en contra de la divinidad de Jesús, que Él no es completamente Dios, o que es menor que el Padre, que es inferior al Padre.
¿Cómo interpretamos como católicos este versículo?
[…]
¿Cómo entendemos este versículo en contexto de toda la Buena Nueva? Voy a volver a la Tradición en un segundo, y miraremos como este verso fue interpretado por San Agustín. Por ahora voy a hacer este pequeño y claro punto: En un contexto amplio, este versículo no puede significar que Jesús está negando su divinidad, porque todo el Evangelio de Juan, está estructurado alrededor de la Revelación de la plenitud de la Divinidad de Jesús. El Evangelio de San Juan comienza diciendo “la Palabra estaba con Dios, y la Palabra era Dios”, así que en las primeras líneas dice que “la Palabra que se hizo carne, era Dios”. Hay dos conceptos, la “Palabra” y “Dios”, pero hay una igualdad entre los dos, “Él era Dios”. Casi en el final del mismo Evangelio, encontramos en el clímax de la historia al apóstol Tomás diciendo “Mi Señor y mi Dios”, y Jesús no dice: “Oh Tomás, te has confundido, yo soy sólo un hombre”. Si Jesús hubiera dicho en ese contexto “No Tomás, el Padre es más grande que yo”, entonces hubiéramos pensado “hay una diferencia, ahí está negando su Divinidad” Pero no, Jesús ACEPTA esa alabanza debida únicamente a Dios que Tomás le da en Juan 20.
Y por supuesto hay toda clase de pasajes a través de los evangelios, como Juan 10, 30: "Yo y el Padre somos uno."
Donde los judíos tomaron piedras para apedrear a Jesús porque “siendo hombre, te haces a ti mismo Dios”.
La completa Divinidad de Jesús es incuestionable en el Evangelio de Juan. Entonces ¿a qué se refiere con “El Padre es mayor que yo”?
La respuesta es muy sencilla: Tenemos que recordar que Jesús no es solo completamente Dios, también es completamente hombre, completamente humano. Y en el contexto de su discurso de la Última Cena, ¿en qué se está centrando Jesús? ¿En el misterio de su divinidad? ¿o en su humanidad? Que está a punto de ser crucificado, que está a punto de morir, para ser resucitado y ascender al Padre… “" yo voy al Padre." (Jn 14,12)
Por tanto, aquí el contexto está en su naturaleza humana, en su cuerpo humano, que va a ser crucificado, que va a ser puesto a muerte, y va a levantarse otra vez.
Aquí está el gran misterio de la Ascensión, algo sin precedentes, que un cuerpo humano que es finito y limitado, que solo toma un lugar; carne, hueso, que toma materia y espacio, ese cuerpo humano limitado va a ser glorificado, y va a entrar en la Vida de la Trinidad, va a regresar al Padre.
ALGO QUE NO HA PASADO NUNCA ANTES.
En términos del misterio de la trinidad, desde toda la eternidad, como Juan dice en el principio de su Evangelio, “existía la Palabra; el Padre, y el Hijo y el Espíritu Santo.” Son el Dios Eterno, el Dios Trino.
Pero Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo son sólo espíritu, no tienen cuerpos, no tienen limitaciones del tiempo y espacio, son el eterno y trino Dios, pero cuando la Segunda Persona de la Trinidad toma una naturaleza humana, cuando la Palabra se hace carne, como dice Juan al inicio del Evangelio, una de las Personas de la Trinidad asume una naturaleza humana, finita y limitada, lo que significa que tiene un cuerpo, tiene un alma, una mente humana, una voluntad humana. Todo lo que constituye ser humano, (y que por definición significa ser limitado), es asumido, excepto el pecado.
Ya en el contexto, a lo que Jesús se está refiriendo no es a su naturaleza divina, sino a su naturaleza humana. Su cuerpo humano, que es menos que el Padre. El Padre es Omnipotente, Omnipresente, está presente en todas partes. Pero… en su humanidad, ¿es el Hijo omnipresente? No. Es omnipresente en espíritu, pero no en su cuerpo, su cuerpo está limitado. Entonces el Padre es más grande aquí que Cristo, en el sentido de la humanidad de Cristo, en la naturaleza humana y limitada de Cristo.
Lo que está diciendo a los discípulos es: Si entienden esto, se alegrarán, porque mi naturaleza humana, va a ser puesta a muerte, mi cuerpo humano morirá, y será levantado de nuevo, y volveré al Padre. Y deberían regocijarse en ello, porque antes de la Ascensión de Jesús, no hay ser humano, no hay naturaleza humana, que haya sido llevada dentro de la vida del Dios Trino, Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo. Esa unión de Dios y la humanidad, es algo que toma lugar a través de la Encarnación, Muerte y Resurrección de Cristo. Es la entrada de Jesús en la Vida de la Trinidad, no sólo en su naturaleza divina, ya que así siempre ha sido, siempre ha estado unificado con el Padre y el Espíritu por toda la eternidad en su naturaleza divina. Pero algo nuevo está ocurriendo en la naturaleza humana que asumió en la Encarnación.
Esto es un Misterio, pero es claro, cuando miras las palabras de Jesús, a lo que Jesús no se refiere; No está negando su divinidad, está hablando sobre su humanidad. […] Es crucial preguntar en cuál de las dos se está enfocando en los pasajes, porque hay una distinción entre las dos que es importante tener en cuenta.
No se refiere a que El Padre es más grande en referencia a su naturaleza divina, pero el Padre sí es más grande que Él en su naturaleza humana.
The answer i expected was that jesus being the son is subject to the father's will. Simply that, nothing about his humanity.
Exactly. That's why Jesus said the Father. He didn't say God is greater so that we can contrast the divine or God with His humanity. He said the Father. Which simply means the Son is not lesser but under the authority of the Father. The Father, just as in human culture, is above the Son, even though both are God or divine. It's about order and rank. I am as human as my biological father but he is indeed greater than me because he is my father. He's above me.
How Jesis Thought Man how to call Him.. Our Father..
The Father is greater then the Mother stating the sin of inequity. Father+Mother=Christ=Life=Equal=Love I took Jesus's rib and gave birth to myself in a daughter. Love is a concept. An immaculate One
_Gospel John contradictions if jesus is god it' only getting worst and show God's is more than One :_
_John __10:29__ - “My Father, which gave them me, _*_Is Greater Than All;_*_ and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.”_
_John __14:28__ - “Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, _*_I go Unto The Father:_*_ for _*_my Father Is Greater Than I.”_*
_John __12:49__ - For I did not speak on my own, but _*_The Father Who Sent me COMMANDED me_*_ to say all that I have spoken._
_John __3:34__ - For _*_he Whom God Has Sent_*_ utters the words of God, for he gives the Spirit without measure._
_John __4:34__ - “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do _*_The Will Of Him Who Sent me_*_ and to finish his work._
_John __5:30__ - _*_By Myself I Can Do Nothing;_*_ I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but _*_Him Who Sent me._*
_John __6:38__ - For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will _*_But The Will Of Him Who Sent me._*
_Hebrew 8:1 - Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is _*_Seated At The Right Hand Of The Throne Of The Majesty_*_ in heaven_
_Hebrew 12:2 - looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is _*_Seated At The Right Hand Of The Throne Of God._*
Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus is also the Son of Man.
As the Son of Man he speaks through his human nature. As the Son of God he speaks through his divine nature..